Episode 7: Unsolved Mysteries

In this episode our fearless hosts dive deep into the broth and explore the uncharted depths of soup news and history.  They ask the hard hitting questions so you don't have to, including: What happens when workplace drama leads to soupy sabotage?  Why is 50 Cent having an online feud with the Campbell's Company?  What the hell is "Jump In Your Mouth" soup, and what happened to the lobster chowder on the set of the movie "Titanic"?  All this, plus a soup-centric exploration of the origins of groundhog day and more.

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:16

I think that's good. So we're saying get up on it. You're gonna get up on the mic. Yeah. But you're not gonna get down on it.

SPEAKER_00 0:23

I'm not gonna get down on it.

SPEAKER_03 0:24

Okay. It's too early for that. No, you gotta. I don't get down on it before the Oh, that that's good. I mean, we've got another, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, without further ado, uh, welcome folks back to another thrilling episode of Super Friends. Yeah. Uh my name is Eli Threebean Wilson. And I'm uh I'm Josh Terrio, the soup wizard. Wow. And uh we are so thrilled to be back with you here. Um Josh, have you had any good soups recently? Have you made any good soups recently?

SPEAKER_00 0:56

Well, always making soup. I you know, occasionally I'll have a friend that is ailing and I'll uh I'll spread a little love, a little cheer, and I'll make them a soup. That's nice.

SPEAKER_03 1:06

So um Do you intentionally get people sick just so you can give them soup? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. I hug them a lot.

SPEAKER_00 1:12

You know, just a hugger. Just purely for germ transfer.

SPEAKER_03 1:17

Like, oh, I'm gonna make so much soup for you. Yeah, so it's a symbiotic relationship.

SPEAKER_00 1:22

Yeah, exactly. That's what they don't get. I'm just loving them. Uh but yeah, I'll I'll drop off a um I dropped off like a chicken and wild rice to a friend. Uh and then uh but my children have discovered the joys of Korean food. But mostly through the food court of the super H Mart.

SPEAKER_03 1:42

Oh nice. So they a lot of soupy foods.

SPEAKER_00 1:45

Yeah, so they've been enjoying uh like dumpling soup. That's their big there's the big thing right there dumpling soup. And um and yeah, we love Hmart. That's great. It's by far the most superior Korean grocery chain.

SPEAKER_03 2:01

I you know, I'll I'll I'll give you that. Uh, because we I've got uh Jungbu closer to me, and I'm a big fan of that as well. Not a chain, but uh you know, a a little smaller operation, and I I do love them as well for their soupy stuff.

SPEAKER_00 2:14

There's a couple of them there, but you know that's it's like the dirty cousin of H Mart.

SPEAKER_03 2:17

I know, that's probably why I like it. Yeah, I know. It appeals to your hipster sensibilities. I like when it's under the underpass and it's covered in pigeon crap. Exactly. If there aren't homeless guys around, I just don't feel comfortable.

SPEAKER_00 2:30

Yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 2:31

Uh but did you say you made some soup for some friends recently too?

SPEAKER_00 2:34

Yeah, the chicken and wild rice.

SPEAKER_03 2:36

Oh, the chicken and wild rice. Yeah, yeah. Nice.

SPEAKER_00 2:38

It turned, you know, it was I yeah. It was a good one. Yeah, yeah, it was really good. I I make I just make a good savory soup, you know.

SPEAKER_03 2:44

Well, I mean, it's better than making a good s sweet soup.

SPEAKER_00 2:47

Yeah, yeah, which happens.

SPEAKER_03 2:48

I mean it does, but not usually not intentionally. I made a good a uh uh potato and corn chowder this week. That is a good because we had uh a bunch of potatoes that were you know like starting to sprout, so we wanted to use them up. So, you know, got all the the eyes and toxic shit off of there.

SPEAKER_01 3:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:05

Um, but uh what was interesting about this is um I used a coconut base for it, which we've discussed before. But um I also happened to have some half and half on hand because uh we had some house guests who had left it here. And um so I threw that that in there too. So it was a little bit of like a combination of like the dairy and the coconut, threw in some parmesan to make it a little creamier. Okay, um, and yeah, it'd be great. I love it, love a potato corn chowder.

SPEAKER_00 3:37

Yeah, yeah. Who doesn't? That's what I'm saying. It's all good. Yeah. Have you uh been getting uh any backlash from the the Campbell's people?

SPEAKER_03 3:46

No, no, they have not reached out to me. Um I I I should start like emailing them with links to the episodes so they can just hear everything that we're saying about them.

SPEAKER_00 3:56

Yeah, so you know soon you'll find like some guy traps you outside and it's like you better stop talking about the Campbell's company.

SPEAKER_02 4:03

You're gonna you're gonna wake up in a casserole.

SPEAKER_03 4:08

Just flings like dry soup packets at me. Yeah, yeah. I feel like that's how they would try to like like rough someone up, you know.

SPEAKER_00 4:15

It's like yeah, because you you the label of your condensed soup falls off, and underneath is cream of poison. Cream of look behind you, cream of death.

SPEAKER_03 4:29

Oh man. All right. Well, should we uh should we kick things off with uh soup news?

SPEAKER_00 4:36

Yeah, well, uh yeah, let's do it.

SPEAKER_03 4:38

All right, soup news.

SPEAKER_00 4:39

Soup news.

SPEAKER_03 4:46

All right, so our uh our first soup news story actually comes to us from a listener email. Oh, yeah. That's right, because uh I don't for those of you who have not been paying attention, we have an email address now, yeah, which is friendsup. Friends super, yeah. Uh friendsplural, super spelled like soup, yeah, at gmail.com. So confusing at all. No, it's just imagine that you're a Russian person who has never had friends or soup before. Yeah. And you go, ah, friends super. Yeah. And then you say at gmail.com. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:18

Who who do you think has that email? We do. No, I mean the uh the other one.

SPEAKER_03 5:22

Super friends, oh man. I don't know. I probably an asshole, probably someone who wanted to get in on our soup podcasting money, so they preemptively got that so that they can try to extort us into paying them to get it from them.

SPEAKER_00 5:40

Yeah, yeah. Did you look it up? Yes.

SPEAKER_03 5:43

I tried to get super friends before, but it doesn't tell me who has uh when you try to get an email address, it doesn't tell you who has all the other ones you can't have. Oh it doesn't say like this one belongs.

SPEAKER_00 5:54

You should be able to barter that. You should be able to, you know.

SPEAKER_03 5:57

Yeah, you know, you should be like for an extra 50 bucks. I want to know where John Smith123 Fake Street lives.

SPEAKER_00 6:05

Yeah, you should be able to Craigslist that thing. I should give me this email, I'll give you half a coffee table.

SPEAKER_03 6:10

I I wish I could get that on Craigslist, but but I digress. Um so our first uh so our first news story actually comes to us from one of these listener emails. Um actually uh your wife Robin sent this one in. Yep. Um long time listener of me. Yeah, yeah. First time emailer. Yeah. Um, you know, I can give you her email address after the show in case you want to stay in touch. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:35

Well, you know, I thought the children would bring us closer together, but I was wrong.

SPEAKER_03 6:39

Um, but uh once again, uh we've got Campbell's back in the news. Oh, uh, which uh again, I'm not trying to make this whole show a hit piece on Campbell's, but they're not really helping their gaze. Um this this one though is a little indirect. Um this is uh actually coming from the the rapper and now film producer 50 Cent. Yeah, yeah. Um and uh so he made a TikTok and Instagram video uh where he was just throwing away cans of Campbell's soup. Right, okay um and in the video uh he's referencing you know some of the stories that we've talked about on here with the the executive going on like weird racist rants about like genetically engineered chicken and blah blah blah deep. And Indian people, yeah, exactly. And the pores. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and for those of you who didn't listen to that one, uh a quote is uh the VP and chief of information security at Campbell Soup said this ain't even chicken in this mother. Oh, wait, no, no, this is what 50 Cent said about the video. Okay. I'm not gonna do like a real 50 cent impression. Can you wrap it? Can you give me a beat? Uh beat, beat. The VP and chef, the V VP in chief, the VP in chief of information security officer at Campbell Soup said this ain't even chicken in this motherfucker, man. And I like this too because in this after this quote, um the uh the website that published this uh refers to 50 Cent as Fifth. And it says Fit FIF, or maybe it's Fife.

SPEAKER_00 8:22

You know, it that's only if you know him really well.

SPEAKER_03 8:24

Yeah, totally.

SPEAKER_00 8:25

If Fifth, it's a long time friend.

SPEAKER_03 8:27

Um, he said this shit is for poor people, and I've been eating this shit for so long. It was what from when I was poor. Fuck this. Yeah, and that's his direct quote about the Campbell soup. Um they said the shit ain't even chicken, the meat came from a 3D printer. Yeah. Um, so apparently uh uh the people on uh Campbell's social media team were not thrilled by this. Um so they got on it uh and and responded to his uh TikTok video um uh saying they they use real quality ingredients. And uh, you know, this is one of the fun yet stupid things about uh living in the 21st century is that we now have soup companies and rappers uh battling on uh TikTok comments.

SPEAKER_00 9:18

Yeah, I I wish that there was like a way that they could really battle it up, you know, because uh a rapper can can have a rap battle. And you know, there are soup cook-offs, but there's nowhere to meet in between.

SPEAKER_03 9:32

Yeah, so uh apparently um they in continuing in the comments, they said to set, hey 50, to set the record straight, we use real quality ingredients, parentheses, real chicken, and put a lot of care into every batch. And the Campbell's account also said, Come see for yourself. We'd love to show you how we make our food. Okay. So I guess that's an unofficial invite for 50 Cent to come tour the Campbell's facility.

SPEAKER_00 10:00

And he he does.

SPEAKER_03 10:01

Uh, yeah. Well, he said he said he was going to he addressed the invite, telling fans he was, quote, gonna have to check this out. He's gonna get the scoop on the soup.

SPEAKER_00 10:11

Yeah, you're you're you're putting a lot of sass into that, I gotta say. I'm enjoying it. Go, but please continue.

SPEAKER_03 10:18

Um yeah, so that they don't even really have any more information about this. It's basically just that 50 Cent or Fifth was ranting about Campbell soup on TikTok. Uh the TikTok PR people got in a kerfuffle about it and were like, oh, you don't think it's real chicken? Come see the factory, you know what I mean? I I imagine this is kind of like a really dumb Willy Wonka kind of thing, you know?

SPEAKER_01 10:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:44

Where they've got like, you know, the chicken printers there just like you know, printing out all the little happy chickens they put in the soup.

SPEAKER_00 10:50

So that they're like, they're they're printing a live chicken and then murdering that chicken.

SPEAKER_03 10:55

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 10:56

Imbuing it with life.

SPEAKER_03 10:57

Exactly. Yeah, because the the the the thing that really adds flavor to soup is life and death. Yeah. Um you can taste it. Exactly. But no, but I I imagine it's something like that, and then I imagine that um, you know, because they say they make everything with love too, so I feel like there's got to be like a love machine where they're like, oh, this is where we add the secret ingredient 50, you know. They sing them a song about like souping with love.

SPEAKER_00 11:21

Yeah, yeah. Or or it's like love is like an acronym for something else, you know. It's lead, oil, vegetables, vegetables, and uh earthworms.

SPEAKER_03 11:33

Earthworms, extra protein.

SPEAKER_00 11:36

That's the love. That's technically not a lot.

SPEAKER_03 11:38

Exactly. But yeah, so that's that that's the breaking news about uh the 50 cent beef with the Campbell's company.

SPEAKER_00 11:47

Okay, well, it's yeah, that's okay. You know, it's uh interesting that they have a beef when they're talking about chicken.

SPEAKER_03 11:52

I know, right? Why not have a poultry? Yeah. Stop clucking about it. Yeah, stop clucking around. What do you got? You got you got a soup news story for us too?

SPEAKER_00 12:04

Yeah, yeah, I I of course. For this, we're gonna have to travel back in time. All the way back to October of 2024. Wow. This comes from the Latin Times.

SPEAKER_03 12:23

Um was 2024 the Latin Times?

SPEAKER_00 12:27

I mean, I'm dubbing it the Latin Times right now. Yeah, yeah. That was we're gonna replace a zodiac here with Ricky Martin.

SPEAKER_03 12:37

No, that's the Latino Times.

SPEAKER_00 12:39

Oh, yeah, yeah, okay. But uh, no, this is a newspaper, you know, a publication. Um and they report about a man. A man uh who has been pushed to the brink. This man, um, like most people, like he has a job and he uh enjoys that job. He enjoys his job and his co-workers and all that stuff until uh something uh nefarious starts to happen. At his job. At his job. Okay. One day he goes to uh reach for his lunch, not there.

SPEAKER_03 13:17

No.

SPEAKER_00 13:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:19

Disappearing soup. Yeah, of course. Well we don't know the soup.

SPEAKER_00 13:22

Well, we don't well, at this point we don't know. Soup does come into the equation.

SPEAKER_03 13:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 13:26

Um but yeah. So he of course, like anybody who was like, oh, you know, maybe I left it at home, but maybe it's my fault. Yeah. But it keeps happening every day. For six weeks.

SPEAKER_03 13:40

Every day his lunch disappears?

SPEAKER_00 13:42

Yeah, every day his lunch appears disappears. He does he tries all sorts of things. He uh is like he just writes on it, please do not touch. Um and they don't they ignore that label. Uh and then he uh is looking for leads. You know, he's asking his co-workers, oh yeah, you know, have you seen anybody eating my food? Do you know uh and of course uh you know that doesn't that doesn't work? And uh and then he uh even resorts to just buying his lunch.

SPEAKER_03 14:12

So now he's buying his lunch in fear that it's Wow, so this this man is now suffering economic harm because of his disappearing lunch.

SPEAKER_00 14:20

Yeah, yeah. So uh he he never finds out, and then a friend of his uh uh refers to him a a TikTok reel. That's a thing, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:30

Okay, it's what they call it. Or Instagram reel. Oh, yeah. I mean, okay. Yeah, on on Instagram they're reels. On TikTok, I think they're just videos. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 14:40

All right. So it's a reel. We're uh a woman, she's also having the same problem as this guy is, and also having disappearing food, disappearing lunch at work, I guess it's a common thing. Okay, and uh what she does is she puts laxative in her own food. And then of course it gets stolen again, and then uh, you know, the person has bad diarrhea, ha ha ha, joke's on you, you're pooping your pants. Right?

SPEAKER_03 15:08

It's a good joke.

SPEAKER_00 15:09

Yeah, it's classic. Yeah, so uh so he does it. He's like, This is a great idea. I'm gonna do this. Uh and to quote him, uh, he says, What I wasn't expecting was for the girl to have an allergic reaction and end up going to the hospital. Yeah, so alright, well, so we've gone too far at this point, right? Maybe she shouldn't have been stealing. Right, right. Well, here's the funny thing. He alright, she's in the hospital, then he and eight of his co-workers, they they go and visit her. And you know, he feels bad. He does he didn't want to like hurt her like this or put her in the hospital. So they're there, and he tells her right away, he says, I am the one that did this. Uh and as if you know, taking a poll of everybody in the room, like show of hands, who likes what I did. Six of the people right out are like disgusted. They're would you say they poo-pooed the idea? They poo-pooed it. One person was like she shouldn't have been stealing your food. You'd be in the minority here. Yeah. But you're not.

SPEAKER_03 16:18

I mean, technically he's put laxative into his own food. Right. Which you know is unusual, but not wrong.

SPEAKER_00 16:24

Right, correct, correct. So uh, yeah. And then the last person, the holdout, is uh he's just like, whatever. He's indifferent.

SPEAKER_03 16:35

He's he's What are we taking a jury poll now? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:38

So like the last guy was like, Yeah, yeah, I don't really care. Uh I just wanted to get some fresh air today. Uh glad you're feeling better.

SPEAKER_03 16:47

Great. Um what does this uh any of this have to do with soup? Oh, I'll tell you.

SPEAKER_00 16:53

Okay, I'll tell you eventually. Okay. Uh well, anyway, he uh he did tell the coworker that I, you know, that he hoped that she would feel better. But he did not offer an apology. And that is the major sticking point here. Um, I should say, well, I'm sorry, the soup should have come in already.

SPEAKER_03 17:11

Yeah, I was gonna say this isn't really a soup story, this is just a lunch story.

SPEAKER_00 17:14

So yeah, the the she he was bringing soup. The last thing is like, I'm gonna put laxative in my soup because it's easy to put laxative in there. Oh, okay. There you go. So there we go.

SPEAKER_03 17:22

What uh what kind of soup was it?

SPEAKER_00 17:24

Uh tomato bisque, maybe. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 17:26

Why you know I I really need you to do a little better on like finding out the types of soups in your stores. That's very granular.

SPEAKER_00 17:35

You're not really like I don't think you're looking at the big picture.

SPEAKER_03 17:37

You're not painting an appropriate picture of the you're not setting the tone for me. Because like dosing a chicken noodle is different from dosing a you know potato or chowder.

SPEAKER_00 17:49

Yeah, yeah. You know what? Uh I'm just gonna lie about it next time.

SPEAKER_03 17:52

Okay, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 17:53

Okay. Well, anyway, he does not offer an apology to her. Um, she's offended, of course. Of course. Right. She feels she's pooping. Yeah. Well, well, the other thing is she has horrible stomach pain because what is happening is not only is she getting like, you know, obviously, this uh intestinal uh problem, but she is also she has a rash on the inner lining of her stomach.

SPEAKER_03 18:21

That does not sound good. Internal rashes does not sound like something I want to mess with.

SPEAKER_00 18:25

No, no, it's a good metal band, but it's not a good uh ailment to have. Yeah. So uh, but the thing is uh his bosses were like you gotta apologize to her, or you're you're not welcome here.

SPEAKER_03 18:39

And what happened? Did he do it?

SPEAKER_00 18:42

Well, he didn't because shortly thereafter uh HR contacted him and said they can't do that, they have to, you know, they can't force you to say anything to anybody.

SPEAKER_03 18:54

Because this is America.

SPEAKER_00 18:55

It's America, absolutely. Yeah, we shouldn't apologize for anything. So uh his supervisor then goes to visit this young woman at the hospital. And uh when she's over there, she contacts uh this man, the the the laxative poisoner, and is like, you should um this would be a great opportunity for you to come and make amends and apologize. And he he said, Absolutely not, I'm not doing this, no. And he said it was because of her tone that she kept insisting it was 100% his fault, not her, who has been stealing my food for two and a half months.

SPEAKER_03 19:38

I mean, honestly, I'm kind of inclined to agree with him on that.

SPEAKER_00 19:41

I I know you would be. I know you would be. I mean, I I think it's wrong, but but it's but in in a way, but still, you know, obviously theft is wrong.

SPEAKER_03 19:50

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 19:51

Um but they both had a part to play in it, obviously. Yes. So uh, but there is an update, you know. So good. I did do further research.

SPEAKER_03 19:59

Thank you. Yeah. I I appreciate that. I want more attention to detail. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:03

So uh another one of their co-workers ends up in the hospital. And she also has the same thing. She has horrible stomach pains and all that stuff, and they find that it's a rash on the inner lining of her stomach. Weird. Right. So the doctors uh they they're now certain that it wasn't the laxative that made this happen.

SPEAKER_03 20:31

Interesting. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:32

Do they know what it was? No, they don't know what it was, but it must have been s it could have been something at work because this lady didn't eat his soup. She didn't, you know, unless she took a large dose of laxative herself.

SPEAKER_03 20:44

Yeah. Yeah. No, she might have just been licking something in the break room and then, you know, all of a sudden.

SPEAKER_00 20:48

Not every doorknob's an invitation.

SPEAKER_03 20:51

Damn, I've been living my life as a lie. Yeah, but one day.

SPEAKER_00 20:55

Yeah. Uh but then uh he is um, you know, uh at this point, he's still it's not apologizing. But he has now been informed by the uh by his home office rep that uh he's being sued by this woman and her husband. But since uh you know there's now evidence that he did not cause this ailment to happen, you know, there's nothing that they can really bring him up on. So they're currently suing him, but they're unsure of what charges are being brought up.

SPEAKER_03 21:26

Yeah, honestly, I I don't think they have much of a case there because again, it's his soup. It's not like he put laxative in her soup.

SPEAKER_00 21:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:34

And you know, and then the fact that there's now further evidence that the laxative might not have even caused that. I mean, it sounds like someone just trying to cover for their soup crimes.

SPEAKER_00 21:45

Yeah, yeah, I yeah. I mean, truthfully, like the it's alarming that nobody in the situation was like you were stealing though this entire time. Right.

SPEAKER_03 21:54

Well, you know, and it's funny, is is that the end of your soup story? I don't want to interrupt. It is so It's funny, the reason I have such strong opinions on this is this actually uh uh parallels an experience in my own life. Oh uh not related to soup. But when I was in high school I used to drink a lot of Coca-Cola.

SPEAKER_01 22:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 22:12

And uh there was this guy who would uh you know, a jock, of course. Okay, who would kicking sand on everybody? Oh yeah, absolutely. Wherever he goes.

SPEAKER_00 22:22

But he was Doug.

SPEAKER_03 22:25

Oh no, his name is Mike. Mike Doug. Yeah. Mike Doug. No, I'm you know, his name is Mike Powers, which I feel like is like the the worst like that's great jock name, you know what I mean? But he also happened to be in band. And my name would be Tom Brickcheese. Yeah, that's good. I like that one. What sport would you play?

SPEAKER_00 22:43

Uh I would play all of them.

SPEAKER_03 22:45

Okay, all at the same time.

SPEAKER_00 22:46

Yeah. Yeah. That's what brick cheese does.

SPEAKER_03 22:48

But what he would do is like every day before class, I'd uh set my Coca-Cola under my chair before I like, you know, went and got my stuff. Okay. And then every day he'd steal it.

SPEAKER_01 22:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 22:58

And so then, you know, I found out he was doing it. And I was like, hey man, stop stealing my thing. And he was like, No. And you know, because it's high school.

SPEAKER_00 23:06

And he's being unreasonable.

SPEAKER_03 23:07

Exactly. And so originally I was going to put laxative into the Coca-Cola. Because I was like, that'll show him. You know, and it's a good classic revenge move. Like, you know what I mean? It's like every single sitcom, like, someone puts laxative into something. It's always funny. It's always good.

SPEAKER_00 23:23

It's always funny because they have to poop.

SPEAKER_03 23:25

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 23:25

Real bad.

SPEAKER_03 23:26

That's funny. Yeah. Um, but the problem was that the laxative didn't mix very well with the Coca-Cola to, you know, make it, you know, look how did you know it didn't it was just the looks alone? Oh, I did tests. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But like I didn't drink it, but I'm just saying, like, I wanted it to appear normal. Okay. So that uh, you know, he wouldn't be suspicious.

SPEAKER_01 23:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:48

Um, so I tried different ones that didn't work. And so finally someone else was like, Why don't you just pee in it?

SPEAKER_00 23:53

And I was like, you know what, that works. You know, the simplest solutions are the best. I know.

SPEAKER_03 23:57

That it's the Occam's razor of revenge, you know. Yeah. Um, yeah, so the next day, you know, I got my my 20 ounce of Coca-Cola, okay, sipped it down to about the label, you know, so it's probably like, you know, three, four ounces.

SPEAKER_01 24:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 24:09

Refilled it with urine.

SPEAKER_01 24:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 24:11

Put it back under my seat, and you know, sure enough, I came back and he'd stolen it. And, you know, he was so proud of himself at this point because like it, you know, I'd already caught him and been like, hey man, don't do this. So he's over on the other side of the room just like chugging this thing, and probably gets through about half of it before someone like leans over and like tells him what's up. You know, and you can see that like moment of realization when he just realizes that he's drank about like 10 ounces of like like piss laced coke. Yeah. You know? And this is like an 80s movie. Oh, it was great.

SPEAKER_00 24:40

80s high school movie where he spits it out, and he's like, Yeah, literally.

SPEAKER_03 24:45

He didn't um he didn't even spit it out, but it was you know, and this was at the start of class too, so he had to like seethe for the entire time. Yeah, and then you know, afterwards, of course, you know, he'd like running after me and like you know, threatening to kick my ass and whatever. Right. But it was great because anytime he would do that, I was like, You can you can hit me all you want, you still drank my piss. And so and so like every time he was you got me. No, but like he wouldn't even say, you know, then he'd just storm off all mad. But like anytime he'd try to like fuck with me, I'd just be like, Yeah, you drank my piss. Oh, and you know, he'd be now you're like trying to I'd be like, Yeah, you you can still do all that. You still drank my piss. Drinking my pee pee. But my point with the whole thing. You put pee pee in your coke. That's the thing. I didn't peep pee in his coke, I pee pee in my coke. That's right. I can pee pee in my own coke all my want, all I want. And like like I said, you can. It's this is America last time I checked. It's sterile and you like the flavor. Yeah, well, and the thing is, like, you know, if you want to have a conversation about why I'm peeing in my own Coke or putting laxive in my own soup, that's fine. Sure. You know, I'm not running around contaminating other people's food and beverages. So and I I strongly identify with the soup laxer, as I'm gonna call him.

SPEAKER_00 25:52

Well, you know. Yeah. I mean, I I guess I can see it from both sides. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:59

Okay, you're not gonna take a stand on that one?

SPEAKER_00 26:02

No, no. The thing is, uh, you know, I love the name Mike Powers.

SPEAKER_03 26:06

I just I you know who knows where he is these days. Yeah, maybe dead. But because of that, the poison pee-pee got him. But um that actually brings me to uh one other soup news story that I've got. And this is an older story, it actually happened back in the late 90s, but they they recently released some more documents about this just in the last couple years. Okay. So it's coming back into public attention again. Um, and this is all about the uh the Titanic PCP incident. Have you heard about this?

SPEAKER_00 26:39

Is it uh pertaining to the movie or the movie? Yeah, the movie the Titanic. Yeah, I have not heard about this, but I am I'm glad to hear it. Yeah. Okay. I've never seen the Titanic actually.

SPEAKER_03 26:50

The the ship sinks, I'm sorry to tell you.

SPEAKER_00 26:52

Yeah, that's why I didn't see it, because I knew what what it was about.

SPEAKER_03 26:55

Well, and the funny thing, it's like even uh James Cameron in interviews uh has said he didn't fully understand why that movie blew up because he's like it's a period drama where everyone knows the ending. Like what why what is the thing? I mean, he's not mad about it, but also like you know, uh he did not expect that to be the the breakout that it was.

SPEAKER_00 27:14

No, well, yeah, it was I it was I don't think it was Oscar worthy, but well, that's a conversation for a different thing.

SPEAKER_03 27:20

But I never saw it. That you know, so how would you know? Um but anyway, so apparently while they were filming this, uh they they f so you haven't seen the movie, but uh for those of you who have, it shifts back and forth between being the present-day 90s, okay, um, and then the m someone's memories of the voyage on the Titanic, which may take place, you know, back in the whatever that was, 19th century or something like that. Or no, that would have been early 20th century, because uh doesn't matter. The point is boats be boats. Boats be boats. The point is, um, they filmed the modern day scenes in uh Nova Scotia in Canada. Okay, right. And so one day, while they were shooting some of this, the cast and crew starts acting very strangely, and this is around the time that they were taking their lunch break. Okay, you know, and some of the uh the people who were there um said that people were uh you know racing in prop wheelchairs. There was like a conga line breaking out spontaneously. Okay. And um This is weird. Yeah, very um people described it as like a dreamy, surreal situation. Um like even Bill Paxton was on set that day and like has told stories of this happening. So they start they start asking if anyone has like medical uh experience to kind of like check people out and see what's happening. Okay, because like some people are having fun with it, other people seem to be like having flashbacks in the corner and all that.

SPEAKER_01 28:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 28:56

Um and they didn't really know what the deal was, so they started calling in ambulances and things like that. Um and it finally, I don't know exactly how they found out, but uh they were apparently having lobster chowder that day in the craft services table, and everyone who ate the lobster chowder started acting super weird, and they found and they tested the lobster chowder and found out that it was actually laced with PCP, okay, which is also known as angel dust.

SPEAKER_00 29:26

Right, right, right. Um that'll make you act a little squirrely.

SPEAKER_03 29:29

Yeah, no, even in the realm of drugs, it's not a it it it's a it's a wild one to just jump to.

SPEAKER_00 29:34

I assume. I I mean I I don't know by experience, honestly, but uh whenever you see it in a movie, it's like, ooh, he's high on PCP.

SPEAKER_03 29:42

Yep, exactly. And so, you know, but they started piecing it together, and they're like, oh, people who didn't eat from craft services didn't start acting weird. Uh James Cameron apparently had some of the chowder, but as soon as someone suggested that it was dosed, he said that he was, you know, trying to induce vomiting and take charcoal tablets and all this sort of thing. Um so luckily nobody had any uh severe symptoms from this. Um, you know, some people were taken to the hospital, you know, treated for minor issues and things like that, but no one was seriously harmed. But then this raises the question who dosed the lab lobster chowder on the side of the Titanic?

SPEAKER_00 30:21

But it is it a like mystery doser?

SPEAKER_03 30:24

It is. We we don't actually know to this day, but there are a couple working theories. Okay. One theory is that it was a disgruntled crew member who also happened to be a drug dealer. Okay. So um this crew member had been uh fired uh a couple days previously. I'm not sure exactly what his role was or if he was working with craft services or whatever. And you know, the article made sure to mention that he was a drug dealer, so theoretically he would have access to PCP. Okay. Who knows? And so he might have done that uh to get back at uh the production.

unknown 30:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 30:59

Uh because you know, uh James Cameron is also kind of notorious on sets and things like that.

SPEAKER_00 31:04

Yeah, I heard the aliens almost didn't get made.

SPEAKER_03 31:06

Oh, yeah. I mean, like um uh oh what's the other what's what's the uh the underwater one? Um I mean, even uh um Ed Harris won't even talk about that production because it was it was so traumatic for him. But anyway, so that was the the working theory. However, there's another slightly more conspiratorial theory, okay, um, which is that uh at that point in the production the Titanic was already wrong running wildly over budget.

SPEAKER_01 31:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 31:38

And so there are some people who think that uh Cameron that it was an inside job, that someone might have actually dosed the chowder so they could put in an insurance claim and get extra money and time for the production.

SPEAKER_00 31:52

That makes sense. It also makes sense that Cameron would be in the no and instead of saying that you know he had he had this excuse locked and loaded that like you know, I it's like, oh, I taste I tasted the chowder, but it was weird. Somebody told me I so I started vomiting and all that stuff, I didn't get affected, but yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:11

Exactly. Um so I don't know, we don't actually have a definitive uh uh answer for it. Um, you know, just within the last couple years they started releasing more documents related to this case to try to figure it out. Because this is kind of like like one of the biggest, you know, crime stories that's happened in Halifax in like the last 30 years, you know.

SPEAKER_00 32:30

That's why they're still on the case.

SPEAKER_03 32:31

Yeah, totally. Well, my my favorite thing though is that there's a a quote from one of the investigators in Halifax um who is like, Well, whoever it was, I don't think he was local because we don't see too much of those kind of drugs here in Halifax, but you do see those in Hollywood, California. Yeah, your Hollywood types are always doing PCP. Whatever you want, they got exactly yeah exactly. And that is so that is the great unsolved mystery of the PCP laced lobster chowder on the set of the Titanic of the Titanic.

SPEAKER_00 33:08

These are like method actors, and that like, you know, he's lacing everything with PCP so that they're like they're at their rawest self, you know.

SPEAKER_03 33:16

Well, I mean, like, you know, there have been movies like that, but I don't know that um, you know, the I I I would honestly say if they did the entire Titanic on PCP, I would watch it.

SPEAKER_00 33:28

Yeah, yeah, you know, I'd watch anything if somebody was on PCP. The drug boat. Zoo will be taking another drug. The drug boat. We've been expecting you.

SPEAKER_03 33:45

Oh man. Do you have any other soup news stories for the book?

SPEAKER_00 33:49

I only brought the one. All right, sounds good.

SPEAKER_03 34:01

All right, so uh Josh, I think you said you have even more fictional soup restaurants for us.

SPEAKER_00 34:06

I do.

SPEAKER_03 34:07

Are these are these all celebrity themed?

SPEAKER_00 34:10

Uh they're all celebrity themed in a way. Uh and then some are celebrity themed in another way. Oh, wow. Yeah, great. Two kinds of celebrity theming. I I'm very excited for that. Good, good, good. Um so uh what are they? Yeah, well, I'm gonna tell you, alright? Fine. They're not fake. I mean they are fake, but I did it. But you really did it. I did it. Um so uh this is a restaurant that serves soups. Um and they they only have uh the you know, they all have have ginger in them. Okay. So ginger is the main ingredient in every single soup there. And it's owned by Gary by our friend, friend of the podcast, Gary Busey.

SPEAKER_03 35:05

I love Gary Busey.

SPEAKER_00 35:07

Yeah, yeah. And he um he starred in 2005 in a uh cinematic horror classic. Uh I don't know if you remember this film, but it's called uh Ginger Dead Man. Oh yeah, yeah, that's a real good one. So this is owned and operated operated by Gary Busey, and it's called Ginger Fed Band. Ginger Fed Man? Ginger Fed Man.

SPEAKER_03 35:30

I feel like you can do better than that. See, you know, uh okay, here's my problem with that. It's a deep cut. It sounds no, it's like I'm even a fan of the uh of the Ginger Deadman reference because that it's a very fun movie for as as terrible as it is.

SPEAKER_00 35:45

Yeah, when you get uh blood into the special gingerbread recipe, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:50

Uh yeah, then you reincarnate a serial killer. Yeah, and then here we are. Obviously. Yeah. Uh but my problem is that that name just doesn't scream soup to me. It just screams restaurant.

SPEAKER_00 36:03

Yeah, yeah. Okay. But you know, the it doesn't have to be literal, it doesn't have to be ginger soup restaurant. Come eat here, please. I'm Gary Beaucy.

SPEAKER_03 36:12

But otherwise, how do you know that it's a soup restaurant? How do you know there's soup there? Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I like I like places that have pictures of the food on the menu because otherwise, how do I know what I'm getting?

SPEAKER_00 36:23

We need a neon sign of a bowl, a neon sign of a piece of ginger, and like an arrow of the ginger going into the bowl. Yeah. This place makes sense to me.

SPEAKER_03 36:32

And there's there's a spoon, so you know it's a soup.

SPEAKER_00 36:34

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay. I get it. All right, what's your next one? All right. Uh like I said, I have uh a different kind of celebrity theme for this one. Wow. Uh, this was actually given to me by my wife. She seems to be better at this than I am. Um but this one uh is called and it's a chili restaurant. Just a chili restaurant. Most of her ideas are. Is it called Chili's? No, it's called Billy's Chili. Okay. And uh all the the people that work in it, including the uh the cooks and the the waiters and the the bus buses and all that kind of stuff, uh they're all impersonating a Billy of some sort, a famous Billy. So you have you know your Billy Joel's and your Billy Eilishes, like your Billy Idol could be your Maitre D. Billy the Kid.

SPEAKER_03 37:31

Like a Billy Bob Thornton in there.

SPEAKER_00 37:33

Yeah, Billy Bob Thornton, he's not even on my list. Uh one of my favorite. I do have Billy Zane.

SPEAKER_03 37:38

Oh right, bring it back to Titanic. Yeah, that's right. Although I've never seen it. Yeah, but he is in that.

SPEAKER_00 37:43

Yeah. I love his work though. Um, yeah, Billy Zane, you could get, you know, bread from a Billy Zane. Nice. Or perhaps your Somalier is Billy D. Williams. Oh. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:56

All right.

SPEAKER_00 37:56

And your entertainment, maybe is Billy Ocean.

SPEAKER_03 37:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:00

You could. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:02

I mean, it sounds fun. I like I like that. I I like it conceptually. Conceptually. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:07

I feel like So if you were an investor, you'd be like, uh, my interest has peaked.

SPEAKER_03 38:12

Oh, you know, I'll give that a hundred dollars. Okay. Um no, it you know, the only thing I w worry about with that kind of concept is uh uh making restaurant workers do impersonation work while they're trying to serve chili.

SPEAKER_00 38:28

Yeah, like you need like if you had Billy Joel impersonator in the kitchen. Yeah. He looks like he'd be shit.

SPEAKER_03 38:34

Well, that that's the thing though. Like if you have Billy Joel in the kitchen, he's just smashing everything all the time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:39

You know, it's just like put this in front of my car.

SPEAKER_03 38:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:42

I'm gonna motherfucker. Let me run this head of lettuce over, and uh that's how we shred it.

SPEAKER_03 38:48

Exactly. No, I did once go to a um uh restaurant in Arizona that was owned by Alice Cooper.

SPEAKER_01 38:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 38:55

It's called Cooper's Town, it was a rock and roll sports bar. Okay, but they made all the employees wear the Alice Cooper makeup and stuff. Okay. And you know, of course, these are just like Phoenix teenagers who are, you know, working at this gigantic sports bar. Um, but it m it was extremely depressing because you got all these like, you know, these poor kids who are just working at this restaurant and they gotta wear the stupid makeup and everything and deal with it. And then they ended up trying to rip us off. Paid with cash and they were doing incorrect math and all this. But I couldn't even get that mad at them because I'm like, you got a shitty gig.

SPEAKER_01 39:33

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:34

And I feel like I feel like Bailey's chili has a has a real risk of of uh running into a similar kind of issue.

SPEAKER_00 39:41

Well, you know, personally, you know, I I'm a parent, you know, and uh, you know, you love your children, you always love your children, obviously, but like they are such fuckers sometimes.

SPEAKER_03 39:51

And like, you know, sometimes like you know, you say they need to have a shitty, depressing job to kind of like put them in their places.

SPEAKER_00 39:58

Uh yeah, it's like you it feels it feels a little bit better. If you're a parent and you see another kid and like this guy is miserable, he's covered in kiss makeup and he is hating life right now. Uh makes you a little happier. Yeah, it's like, oh yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_03 40:13

Good for you. I bet your parents are having a great time right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, do you have any more uh super astrons for us?

SPEAKER_00 40:20

Yeah, I mean, I uh this one comes uh from my friend and uh you know emailer of the show, Lindsay. Um often give me these, you know. Uh so she's giving it.

SPEAKER_03 40:34

I like that your friends and family are all on board with this and are now just like contributing contributing to your segments.

SPEAKER_00 40:40

Yeah, exactly. It's probably better that I get them all from them. Um but if you have one, please email and uh at friendssuper at gmail.com. Yeah, yeah. Uh so this one is um it's uh it's a Spanish themed soup restaurant. Oh right. Um but it it it's here, of course. But it's uh and it's only cold soups, obviously. Uh and it's owned and operated by Jack Black.

SPEAKER_03 41:16

So Jack Black has a Spanish soup restaurant. Right. Okay. Right.

SPEAKER_00 41:21

Are you ready? Yeah? It's called Gazpacho Libre.

SPEAKER_03 41:26

Uh yeah, like like Nacho Libre.

SPEAKER_00 41:29

Have you seen Nacho Libre? No. I mean that doesn't surprise me. But also, wait that you would push away all sort of joy in your life.

SPEAKER_03 41:36

Yeah, no, I I don't like to laugh.

SPEAKER_00 41:38

But um This is not literal here.

SPEAKER_03 41:42

But isn't he a luchador in that? He is, yeah. Isn't that Mexican? Yeah. So why is it Spanish soup?

SPEAKER_00 41:48

Shouldn't it be a Pazole place? You know, this the Spanish were over in in Mexico. Yeah, I'm aware speak Spanish.

SPEAKER_03 41:54

I'm aware of that, but it's I feel like you're uh you're mixing metaphors here.

SPEAKER_00 41:57

Yeah, well, I the I once again you're you're you're you're going more granular than I hoped. And you're like, well, no, no. But no, it's mostly the way it sounds gizpacho, nacho.

SPEAKER_03 42:08

I I understand that part. Okay, you get that part. Okay. Okay, sounds good. I just I you know I felt like it was worth mentioning.

SPEAKER_00 42:15

Okay, all right. Well, all right.

SPEAKER_03 42:17

I'm gonna say somewhat funny. Possibly possibly dumb.

SPEAKER_00 42:28

Possibly bad. Yeah. What are you, my wife?

SPEAKER_03 42:38

Okay, do you do you have another one for us?

SPEAKER_00 42:40

Uh yeah, Lindsay did send me another one. Okay. I'm not sure how to set this one up. But um it's a uh uh you know, I would say that it's it's a southern soup restaurant. Um but well, howdy. Yeah. But but but more in Louisiana.

SPEAKER_03 43:00

Oh, like a New Orleans, you gotta get like that Creole sort of thing. Yeah. Like Yeah. No. I do dec I do declare it's a little bit more open in there with a little bit of enfrançay.

SPEAKER_00 43:14

You know, you're you're speaking more like a uh a foppish gentleman, which doesn't surprise me.

SPEAKER_03 43:19

You know, you would have you have those in in the bayou, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:23

You know, no, you're no you'd be you'd be upper crust, right? You know, just watching your art house movies. Yeah. Well, uh, but all the ingredients are uh in this are found by foraging. Okay. Uh through In the bayou. In in the in the yes. No, no, no, up north.

SPEAKER_03 43:46

It's a southern restaurant with foraged ingredients from up north.

SPEAKER_00 43:48

Yes, they they'll forage the ingredients from up north.

SPEAKER_03 43:53

Great.

SPEAKER_00 43:54

It's owned by uh by Tom Hanks. Um and it's called Forest gumbo. But it's it's for forest with one R, like the forest. You have to go to the forest.

SPEAKER_03 44:08

Yeah, I mean, I could I could see that. You know, because you've already got I feel like you would get into some trouble with uh uh Bubba Gump shrimp since they already kind of uh you know piggybacked off of the No I understand that, but I'm just saying they probably have some kind of licensing agreement with uh you know the Forest Gump franchise, you know, and they I mean because they have a gumbo there, because it's it's a I I think that's a stretch.

SPEAKER_00 44:33

Okay. Forest is spelled differently. Uh-huh. Gumbo. Uh-huh. That's not even in the name of Bubba Gump just because they have a their own gumbo. Gump is close to gumbo. If you put an O, you'd be gumbo.

SPEAKER_03 44:49

Well, you know, we'll see you in court then. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. This is uh Forrest Gumbo versus Bubba Gump. How many kinds of shrimp do you have? Officiated by Gary Busey.

SPEAKER_00 45:07

Yeah, that sounds good. That's great. Yeah. Star of Ginger Dead Man.

SPEAKER_03 45:10

Oh, yeah. Did you know he has a or had a um uh like a People's Court style show called uh Pet Court? No, I didn't. Oh man, it it's or Pet Judge or something like that. But yeah, basically he's the judge and uh you know officiates cases uh between people's pets.

SPEAKER_00 45:30

Yeah, you know, every time I see pet justice. I see Gary Busey, you know, through you know, we've all seen him through the years. He just looks like more more like he's a corpse, you know. Oh yeah, that he's like he's becoming more of a corpse.

SPEAKER_03 45:47

He's but he's leaning into it, and that's what I love about it. Like he doesn't give a shit.

SPEAKER_00 45:51

Yeah. Oh, is that what it is? I think so. Yeah. He's like Nick Nulty, yeah, but dead.

SPEAKER_03 45:56

Yep, exactly. I got it. Okay. You got any more soup restaurants for him? No, that's awesome. That's it. Okay. Well, that was that was fun. You know, this is probably as good a time as any to mention. We have realized here at Super Friends that we need better names for our segments. Yeah. Um, because you know, we have soup news, we have fictional soup restaurants, right? Right. You know, we're gonna be getting to soup history later on, and we know we might even have some more as things come down the pipeline. Um so if you listeners have ideas on what we should call the segments of this show that are a little snappier, a little more keyed into like the the TikTok real crowd and all that. Yeah, yeah. Um email us at friendssuper at gmail.com and let us know what we should call the segments on the show. Yeah. That's right. Yeah, that's friendsplural, super spelled like soup at gmail.com. Yeah, good luck. All right, well, that brings us now uh to the ever popular soup history section. Yeah. Wow, where has soup come from? Where is it going? Yeah, where is it taking us? And what are we gonna see along the way? Yeah, you never know. Uh so I've got um uh another one that came to us from uh uh listener email. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 47:17

Um Lindsay asks uh we will have only two people that email this show. It's my wife uh and then uh my friend's wife.

SPEAKER_03 47:28

Yeah, exactly. That's that's all we need.

SPEAKER_00 47:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 47:30

Uh no, having said that, once again, if you would like to email the show with your own questions, comments, and concerns, uh that uh email address is friends super, friendsplural, super spelled like soup at gmail.com. And uh yeah, we'll feature you on the next episode. But uh no, Lindsay uh mentions that there is a uh longstanding restaurant here in the Chicago suburbs called Omega. Yeah. And they are you know kind of like a uh family-owned diner, 24-hour diner dinner type place. Yeah, I've I've driven past it many times. Have you eaten there? I have not.

SPEAKER_00 48:06

Okay, because it the colors scare me. It's orange on the outside, you know?

SPEAKER_03 48:11

And I'm like, oh that sounds racist, but you know, we're we're gonna let it slide. I might be racist against orange people. No oompa loompas for you. No oompa, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:22

It's not their, it's just the orange.

SPEAKER_03 48:24

Fuck me out. So they uh apparently have a long-running uh soup special there um called Jump in Your Mouth Soup. Okay. And um so I decided to look into this. Okay, yeah. Um, and it's actually a little bit more of a uh a sorted history than you might expect. Or not sorted, but it's it's somewhat confusing. Um so the term jump in your mouth uh comes from the Italian term uh saltimboca. So you know, salti is usually jump in like romance languages.

SPEAKER_00 49:03

How would uh you an Italian say that though?

SPEAKER_03 49:05

Saltibocca. Yeah, salti bocca, yeah. And um, so but the thing is that it's almost I couldn't find any other record of it being a soup. So it is an Italian reci recipe. Okay, it does mean jump in the mouth, which will, you know, that's what the English translation would be. Yeah. But it's not a soup, and this is where it gets kind of interesting. So even um the original salt and boca dish, um, which is traditionally uh veal or sometimes chicken uh wrapped in uh prosciutto, or sometimes they just put it on one side with some basil, um, and sometimes dredge it with a little bit of flour, and then it's cooked in like olive oil, white finished with white wine and that sort of thing. So, you know, solid, straightforward, you know, kind of like protein, prosciutto, basil, white wine kind of deal. So um there's been an argument for a while that it it uh might be a Roman recipe, or it might have even uh come from a smaller town called uh Brescia, Italy. Um it is uh much older than a century. It is the first written trace of the recipe can be found in an influential book published towards the end of the 19th century by Pellegrino Artusi, a celebrated Italian chef, uh Saltimboca alla Romana.

SPEAKER_05 50:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 50:32

Um so even that recipe in and of itself is uh somewhat muddy in terms of like what the origin is, but we've got uh some sort of old school Italian recipe. Um, but I could not find any mention on the internet of it ever being a soup.

SPEAKER_01 50:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 50:50

Um and even with all like the AI shit and everything these days, because you know how if you search things on the internet, you know, it immediately shows you AI results, and they could not find any reference to it being a soup. So the robots couldn't help. No, the robots did not help at all. So then I was like, okay, well, let me They haven't solved everything. I know. Thanks, Terminator. Yeah. Um so at that point I was like, okay, let me look up jump in the mouth and you know, see if I can find, you know, maybe it became a soup after it was kind of like translated into the American culture and that sort of thing. And once again, I couldn't find any other reference to it being a soup. However, I did find a jump in the mouth casserole. Okay. And uh this was something that uh this person said they used to make in Seattle in the 80s. So this is something that's like spread around the country in some way or another with calling things jump in the mouth, but it's not necessarily the Italian thing because this I was even trying to find the connection between this and the Italian recipe because this person's jump in the mouth is like a casserole that has diced chicken, celery, onions, black olives, and pimento stuffed olives, walnuts, and then cream of chicken soup and mayonnaise, and then covered in potato chips.

SPEAKER_00 52:16

Yeah, okay. Well, uh well, you know, that sounds gross, but I I will say uh you know, what a wild ride this has been from soup to casserole.

SPEAKER_03 52:26

I know that's what I'm saying. No, but that's why this this is kind of it's it's a little unusual for a soup history story, but it's I I was trying to figure out the origin of this soup, and it's like there's a a dish that it probably takes its name from, right? Because we because I get the connection between jump in the mouth and salt and boca.

SPEAKER_01 52:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 52:45

Right? But the salt and boca is nothing like well, I haven't had the soup, so I don't know exactly what's in it. I would guess that you know, if you got something with like chicken and bacon or chicken and prosciutto, you know, right? Yeah, totally. I mean, I don't know how many people are doing veal soups these days, but you never know. But then the fact that there's this casserole floating around that someone in Seattle in the 80s was making, but now it's got the olives and walnuts, which is kind of where it loses me. And like I like all those things, like they're all things that I enjoy.

SPEAKER_00 53:20

Yeah, just not together.

SPEAKER_03 53:21

Right. I mean, although I might I might try making it after this. And it does have the cream of chicken soup, so I guess it does kind of bring us full circle with the soup. Yeah, and then covered in potato chips on top. That's yeah, it's like diarrhea. Right, but it sounds very Midwestern. It's a weird that that's a Seattle recipe.

SPEAKER_00 53:38

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I yeah, I agree. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:40

So anyway, the I mean, this is more of a an unsolved mystery than a true history. But uh we're still on the hunt to figure out the salt and boca jump in your mouth uh connection. Um I think after this episode, I'm gonna have to uh go to that restaurant, try the soup, and then ask to speak to the owner and ask them who the hell they are and what what they think they're doing with their jump in the mouth soup there.

SPEAKER_00 54:05

You know, it it is always packed. It'll it has always, you know, it's in a big parking lot and with a bunch of other things, and there's always like a huge ring of cards around it.

SPEAKER_03 54:15

No, and I, you know, I love a good 24-hour restaurant, I love a good soup special, but now I'm just honestly curious because it's like, you know, are they gonna go in the direction of you know doing it more with like a I could, you know, I could see like a chicken, bacon, basil kind of thing. Like that makes sense to me.

SPEAKER_01 54:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 54:32

Or you know, with like a white wine thing. Or are they gonna go this like wild Seattle casserole turn, you know, with fucking olives and walnuts and mail mayo?

SPEAKER_00 54:42

Uh yeah, that's not a soup. That wouldn't be yeah, you couldn't make that a soup.

SPEAKER_03 54:46

Uh is that a challenge? Soup challenge. Yeah. Oh yeah, that maybe that'll be a new segment that we do is uh soup challenge. Yeah. Uh yeah, if you if you want to challenge us to make uh to take disgusting ingredients and make them into soups that aren't disgusting, email us at friendsuper at gmail.com.

SPEAKER_00 55:02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:03

But anyway, that's not much of a history story, but it's something that perplexed me when I tried to research it. Um and that's as far as I got.

SPEAKER_00 55:12

Oh, well, it's a delightful journey. Yeah, I I thought so. Yeah. I wonder if they're even Italian over there.

SPEAKER_03 55:18

I don't know. I mean, you know, because a lot of uh diners are Greek owned and things like that. So maybe it was like a mistranslation kind of thing. Yeah, who knows?

SPEAKER_00 55:26

Yeah. Or could it, you know, you know, if you just heard it and you were like, yes, salt and boca.

SPEAKER_03 55:30

Yeah, it was like, you know, I've I'll that soup will jump in my mouth.

SPEAKER_00 55:34

Or or it could have been just like uh like a family recipe that the guy was like, Yeah, this is our salt and boca, that my grandma always said that. And like, but maybe she was just like, I just call this anything.

SPEAKER_03 55:45

Yeah, no, I and truly, and that's how a lot of those family recipes end up working, too, is you know, that like you they throw something together, you gotta call it something, um, and then you know, at some point the uh translation is just kind of lost. And actually, as a side note, um I read an article a while ago, and that's one of the reasons that you see um so many words from other languages on uh restaurant menus because uh like food and menu words are like some of the hardest to translate. Because you know, if you think about uh you know, because they all have like you know cultural and historical implications and things like that. So, you know, for example, if you were gonna say, like, how would you describe uh a Bologna's sauce without saying bologna? It's like you know, and but that's also why when you see like translations of Asian menus, a lot of times it'll say like chicken with sauce. Yeah, you know what I mean? Because in their language, whatever the the original word was, it had other implications for what that sauce is. But if you live, I mean, you know, if you were gonna translate bolognese, it'd probably be like like spaghetti bolognese would be like straight noodle with tomato hamburger sauce. Yeah. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 57:04

That would be your kind of restaurant, though. At least I know what I'm getting. Like fucking lying to me.

SPEAKER_03 57:10

So my point with all that is that um this might be one of those instances where you know they took the term salt and boca, translated it, you know, someone just applied meeting me meeting, meaning to it uh in one way or another, and then we just got to where we are today.

SPEAKER_01 57:27

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 57:28

Well, that's the American dream.

SPEAKER_00 57:30

It is. Yeah. Just smash it all together, make some money. Yep. Do you have a soup history source? Yeah, of course. Of course. I wouldn't come here empty-handed. Oh, good. Yeah. Uh but we are going to travel deeply in time. Please put on your your saucepans. Good. Uh jump in a pot and a soothing broth and come with me on a journey through the bowl. You like that? I do. Okay. Uh, all the way back to the medieval period. Wow. It's a long way back. It is a long way back. Now, this is uh kind of vague at what point it happens within the medieval period. Um but we're, you know, that that period in Europe is uh around, you know, in the late 5th century to all the way in between, you know, in into the 15th century. But there I will I will tell you about a uh a Christian tradition called Candlemas. Oh Candlemos. Yeah, yeah. So it's actually uh it's a feast commemorating the the halfway point between winter solstice and the vernal equinox, celebrated on February 2nd.

SPEAKER_03 58:47

Oh nice, so this is a seasonal. I like that. You like that. I like seasonal content.

SPEAKER_00 58:52

Yeah, yeah. So uh, and during this time, you know, the the clergyman would would hand out uh blessed candles for you know the dark times, the dark winter nights that are ahead.

SPEAKER_03 59:03

I mean the whole time was called the dark ages.

SPEAKER_00 59:05

Right. Well, they don't do that anymore. Oh, okay. You can't say that because a lot of good things were made at that time and they get very offended. Who? The the people who were alive then? If you say it, they'll just pop out. Okay. People now are the snowflakes have ruined us too. Don't call them dark ages. Uh they were light deprived.

SPEAKER_03 59:27

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:28

Well, you know, it it light does come into play here. Oh good. Uh the legend is that on a if on that February 2nd, a sunny day itself meant um that you would have an extra 40 days of winter. Uh, and you know, the the inverse was also true. So if it was cloudy, uh spring would come earlier. Uh but they they didn't, you know, have any animals or anything predicting weather at this point. But uh and it was you know kind of celebrated by everybody, the British and whatever. Uh but it wasn't until the Germans got hold of it that they were like, you know what? We need a mascot.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:05

You know I I appreciate that about the Germans. It's like, you know, they're they're like, I like this, but it it needs um you know, it needs more uh efficiency. It needs a you know, you need a symbol.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:17

Yes, and they of course chose the most efficient symbol uh that you could ever choose. Uh and keep in mind this is Europe.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:27

So um oh Germany, Europe. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:32

Well, Germany itself really isn't a country at this point, so there's Germanic people.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:36

Well, that's true. Yeah, it was uh what kind of a loose collection of like tribes and city-states and whatnot.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:41

It's like a bag of marbles over there.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:43

So the best way to uh describe an ununified Germany is just a bag of marbles, bag of marbles, you know, and then Italy was like the southern bag of marbles, you know, so you got like the upper sack and the lower sack.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:59

Yeah, you know, they're more of a Italy is more of a like a bag of like uh you know pencil erasers.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:09

Good. Good. I'm I'm liking this metaphor.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:11

Okay, good, good. So the Germans got a hold of this and they uh applied uh a hedgehog. Oh so they they use the hedgehog uh to be like if or a badger. They weren't really discerning between those two, whichever one you could catch faster. Maybe yeah, yeah. So they would say that if a hedgehog saw its shadow, now you know they're still applying the light aspect, but now if there's a hedgehog or a badger saw its shadow, then uh you know there's six more weeks of winter or 40 days. You know, it was biblical, so 40. Yeah, obviously. Um yeah, but of course, if it was a cloudy day and uh the badger was like, it's okay out here. Um they're like here here comes the spring. Um so we'll fast forward a little bit in time to the late 17th century now. Okay, and now we're finding here in the United States, um, you know, the burgeoning United States anyway, uh, that uh Germans are now you know immigrating to the United States. Uh so they're mostly uh people uh fleeing religious persecution, so that they're like Mennonites and uh Quakers, basically.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:22

So they And they is this because they've been worshiping too many hedgehogs and badgers?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:27

Okay. Yeah, though that was frowned upon in the old uh in the old country.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:31

Yeah, and then when you were trying to mate the badgers and hedgehogs together to create a new sausage.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:38

The badger hog. The badger hog.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:41

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So uh yeah, so all this is happening. Uh but but also they're they're settling here in the late century, so they but they mostly settle into like uh the eastern Pennsylvania area. Um and they they bringing they bring with them the tradition of Kendlamus, right? So but there is a problem. No no there's no hedgehogs there in that area. There's no badges in that area. No, no, but they they substituted uh with the nearest you know rotund little rodent that that they could find, uh, the groundhog. Um but so uh by early by the early eighth uh 19th century, Pennsylvania German farmers, uh you know, they they would celebrate now what they called Grunzaldag. Oh yeah. Yeah, and then in this it was uh traditional for them to watch the sky, observe the groundhog itself, trade predictions of the weather, and then uh just like in Europe, they would sit down and they would have like a hearty winter dinner. So it's like a holiday to break up the holidays, yeah, you know. So um, but uh of course, you know, being European people or you know, rural people, they would uh you know, eat whatever little guy they could find. You know, yeah, absolutely. So uh the the groundhog became what was on the menu.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:14

Oh yeah, did it matter whether or not he saw his shadow? Like if he if he declared more winter, where they're like, oh okay, he's gonna he's gonna die.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:21

Here's the interesting part about it is that at this point uh in in the history of this is that the the groundhog hunting season was separate from uh what was you know the groundhog day. Oh, interesting. The grunzeldag.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:38

I love that it was popular enough that they had to declare an official season for it because it's like okay, we gotta let the groundhogs repopulate. You can't go killing them all willy-nilly.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:47

Yeah, so uh but you know, it it became started to get really popular, right? And all these small towns that were German, uh, they they would have this Grunzeldok, you know, and they would um and they would have and of course uh it would it would end in a feast, but it would start with a hunt, you know, a a traditional groundhog hunt. Um and uh there were like groundhog clubs and and lodges, uh and yeah. And they were but the you know, like I said, the the hunt was originally held in September. Okay, right? Uh and it was all these local things, but it wasn't until uh the railroad between Puxitawney and Pittsburgh got completed uh in the year of 1899 that it started to become uh more of a thing, you know. So we're like, oh yeah, here's this uh this you know cool little holiday. Um it's Germanic in nature, but um it's got a groundhog. It's got a ground groundhog, they eat the groundhog. Um so but because of this, like the press is now visiting Puxitani and there's um uh politicians are coming and and and all those things. Uh and it's it's growing and growing and growing, and by the year 1910, there's now they have a hundred and fifty participants in just the hunt. Uh and uh yeah, so uh but they would start the hunt, right? They'd be uh the club would open the festivities by uh belting out the official groundhog hunt song. Oh and it was always sung by the the eldest member of the groundhog club. Okay, and it went We had a pie of rye and gr groundhog was the meat. We have enough and plenty too, and more than we can eat.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:40

Was this sung in English or German?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:42

You know, I I don't know. Okay. I mean, uh probably both at some point.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:45

I mean it does seem to rhyme in English, so that's something.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:48

Yeah, and but you know the suits that you would uh associate with the men that are uh handling the groundhog on a traditional groundhog day. You know, they look like they're almost in tuxedos and top hats and then that like something to keep their face warm. Yeah. So uh cravat. Yeah, but this comes from this tradition. So they uh in this when the hunt would start, uh all the men were dressed this way. They were dressed in these uh suits and top hats. Uh and they they would go out and hunt the groundhogs. Uh but they didn't they didn't use dogs and they didn't use guns, um, so they were armed with shovels. Yeah. Uh they were uh armed with hose. Okay. You know, hose. And and they're just gonna let that one slide. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And then uh they had rubber hoses.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:41

Okay. So they had hose and hoses.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:43

Yeah. And shovels.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:45

And and shovel. Okay. Yeah. Uh but the the hoses they used for listening.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:49

That was their Oh, my that's my listening hose.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:52

Yeah, this is yeah, you keep that one separate, yeah, you keep it clean. Yeah, it's only used one day a year. Yeah. So uh yeah, so they would they would they would do that, and um when a when the groundhog would poke its little head above the hole uh and they would see it. The leader of the hunt, the hunt leader, would say, he would bellow out the official woodchuck is holed. Now the hunters would furiously run over to this hole and they would begin with their shovels and holes to dig and dig and dig, and uh they would dis you know descend upon this poor scared creature and they would pull it out, you know. They're holding it uh by its tail like a a fisherman holding his trophy. You know, and uh I I seem I assume this thing is going crazy. And they must be pretty tame.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:46

No, they're not. I I I'll uh I'll follow up on this because I uh actually had a lot of experiences with woodchucks as a child. And uh is this traumatizing? Is this no no no no it's but it's it's actually very nostalgic for me. I'll I'll get into it in a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:59

Okay, cool. So, like, yeah, so they're they're they they unearth the poor creature and they hold it up, and um now it's their photo opportunity. So that it's it's photographed and now it's uh sent out to papers and things like that. Uh and then they release the the groundhog for the chase.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:22

Oh I like that they pull it out of its I you know honestly, I appreciate that because you know this is that like like 19th century sporting mentality where it's like, yes, we're gonna like pull you out of your home with like hose and area codes and shovels and things like that. Yeah, um, but we're not just gonna kill you immediately. No, we're gonna give you the opportunity to run away and then we're gonna kill you.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:47

Yeah, well, the thing is they they wouldn't kill this one. Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it was probably eventually killed, but you know, uh during the ceremony, it would it wasn't that. Um so yeah, they would they would have it, it's photographed, and now they're they're in the chase, you know. So they uh and then once they caught it, um they would hold it up again and they would force it.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:11

Wait, so they they pull it out of the hole, they hold it up. They hold it up, then they let it run around. Yeah, they let it run around. Is this in like a an enclosed area or just like the woods? That that was inconclusive. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:22

I assume it's not the woods, there's a lot of hiding places.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:24

Right. So they let it run around and they catch it again.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:27

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:28

Are they just running after it?

SPEAKER_00 1:10:29

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. So they'll uh they'll again they'll grab it and whatever. But now they'll they'll force it to drink what they call groundhog punch. Okay, okay. Uh, and would you like to know the recipe? Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:45

I'm also wondering when this gets to soup, but I'll wait.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:49

Well, it's we're getting it. Yeah, yeah. So uh, yeah. So anyway, they uh the recipe is milk, orange juice, and vodka. Yeah. So uh and it was they're like a creamy screwdriver. It was good, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:08

Yeah. All right, we're gonna call that uh uh an orange scurlius. Okay, good. Yeah, there you go. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:15

Uh so uh, but they did it because they told themselves that this was the tradition was that this uh groundhog punch would um it would uh what what do you call uh extend the life of of the groundhog by seven years? Another biblical number seven. Good. All right, but in this particular hunt, you know, like like I said, this this groundhog survived this day. But uh when they went back to feast, 41 groundhogs had already been uh killed and and slaughtered and brined. You gotta brine these guys. Oh, good. Yeah, and of course I love a good brine. And this is where we talk about the food, you know, that this is where you know it was traditional to have a groundhog stew.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:56

Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:57

Yeah, because it's a uh you know, better stewing meat, but they there was a you know, they would barbecue it as well, uh, and they would roast it as well. But you know, they found that the stewing aspect was the best because uh because they said it had a weird taste.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:11

I assume it would be kind of gamey.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:13

Yeah, it is gamey, but you know, we're we've all had a gamey meat or two.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:17

Alright, so what what uh so we've got the hunt, we've got the they yank it out of the hole, they chase it around, then they bring it back, and they slaughter all these groundhogs, and now the groundhogs are being stewed.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:32

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:33

And then and then they put them in a groundhog soup.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:36

Yeah, they're it's yeah, but it's stewed traditionally, like it's not like a uh you know, outlandish recipe. It's your standard like you know, onions, carrots, potatoes thing, you know, uh with probably like some local herb or whatever thrown in there. Yeah. But you know, it it's a stewed, stewed meat. It sounds good. Yeah, I mean, it's a weird, you know, stew, weird tasting stew.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:00

Uh are we counting stews in soup history now? I I I yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:05

Fair uh it's under the soup umbrella. Okay, good. Um But yeah, uh, but at this point though, this this is now they're they're merging the two things. So they're they're merging the the hunt as well, uh, you know, uh with with with the groundhog day, you know, it's connected. They before there wasn't really a social connection, yeah. But they're now it's like all part of a thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:29

Uh but because at the same time they were having this other celebration in Puccitani at the Gobbler's Knob. Uh they I'm sorry, the where now? Gobbler's Knob.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:40

Oh, okay. Is that the the pub?

SPEAKER_00 1:13:42

No, no, no. It's an outdoor area with like a big gazebo, and people gather there, and they have, you know, now now it's like a really kid-friendly thing. You know, there's some German cultural things there, but like you mostly eat like pancakes.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:55

Sometimes the pancakes will go down, go down to Gobbler's Knob for some pancakes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:59

Yeah, that's basically like you know little alcoholic drinks and whatever. But it's a little fest, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:14:05

Yeah. For all the knob gobblers out there.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:07

All the knob gobblers. Gobbler's knob. Uh but yeah, so uh but this this is part of the problem. And this this is what eventually eradicates uh this hunt is because uh uh the like the the feelings that we're now having nationally about groundhogs is interfering now with the uh the Germanic hunting hunting traditions. Um but it it gets really popular actually as as a as a meal of uh of that area. So so much so that it was the uh the main course in uh uh in a banquet that was honoring the then governor um Edwin Stewart, the governor of Pennsylvania, but it was like the main thing.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:54

Wow, he he was like, I really want to feature the Pennsylvania groundhog in those.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:58

Yeah, yeah. Nice. Yeah, because it was a representation of a lot of people there. Yeah uh makes sense too. Um yeah, but but but at the same time, it's being reported, right? And uh that that these groundhogs are being killed, and that you know, we love these groundhogs just a couple months later. Right. So uh nationally it starts to like just lose a lot of you know favor. Uh so that that's essentially that it's just kind of like Peter's out, basically.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:26

Yeah, they just they kept doing the Groundhog's Day prediction and just stopped doing the chase hunt slaughter soup.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:33

Yeah, because yeah, by 1913 that they were getting just like negative stories about hunting these ground groundhogs. Yeah. Alright, you know. That's funny. That's it. But uh so but the one of the traditions that still carries over it to this day is that they will have the groundhog drink, the groundhog punch. Oh they're still making the groundhog punch for for Puxitani Phil.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:02

Does he do that before or after he does the prediction?

SPEAKER_00 1:16:06

Uh I I assume that it would well, hopefully it's after. Well, you know, it might be before to calm his nerves.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:11

Oh yeah, you're like, oh, I just need a little vodka milk and orange juice to take the edge off.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:17

Vodka milk, just like mom's. Yeah. Uh but yeah, like but as I said, it's got a flavor that's like it's a gamier flavor that's like kind of between pork and chicken. Uh, and it it needs to be brined. Uh, every rest recipe you see, it's like, oh yeah, it it needs to be brined, you know, in any fashion. Yeah. So you gotta marinate it or brine it. Um and it is stewed traditionally. Uh, but it uh uh it's also something that's still eaten. You can literally still buy it in some like Germanic grocery stores in eastern Pennsylvania.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:48

I mean, honestly, I would try it. Like uh, you know, I'll try any animal ones.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:53

Yeah. Uh yeah. And uh that pretty much ends my journey. So I I wanted to highlight a um uh a holiday of February, and I thought Valentine's Day would be too easy. I thought that um that we already did Lincoln with his inaugural stuff. That's true, and the turtle soup and all that.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:17

Why not why not uh understand that like the the sweet holiday of Groundhog's Day originally began with a hunt and slaughter of Well no, I it's funny that you mentioned that because uh yeah, actually uh my childhood in involved uh a lot of groundhogs getting getting killed. Really? Yeah. Um because uh was it a family tradition thing?

SPEAKER_00 1:17:41

Yeah, it was. It was a wow.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:43

Yeah, no, and it wasn't but it wasn't like a family hunt. We never ate them. Um, but I had uh a bunch of family in uh rural Michigan, and uh my grandfather in particular just had a vendetta against groundhogs or as he called them woodchucks because you know he was a farmer and they you know they run around, they eat shit, they tear up crops and whatever. Makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:06

Did he have like trophies on the wall?

SPEAKER_03 1:18:08

No, but what what he would do, he had a um uh 16-gauge shotgun with a crooked sight that he had learned to compensate for. So you know he'd always like you know aim to the side of the groundhog to hit them, and he was always like really proud of himself when he was able to get one of those.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:25

Um, and then he also had um live traps that are like one of those ones that it's like a cage, right? You know, it's got a lever that like trips it in the back. Okay, but the thing is anytime he would catch one in the live trap, he would throw them in the crick like while they were still drowned. Yeah. And his his joke was always, oh, they don't swim too good. You know, and one of my uh one of my uh recurring childhood memories is like going over there for like a Sunday dinner and I would have to go clean up the bodies. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:54

Um because I could so this was a traumatic story. Yeah, I mean, good.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:01

I didn't think about it that way at the time.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:02

But the funny thing was that like you're you're like the maintenance man at a concentration camp. Like, go clean up the bodies.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:10

I mean, you know, if it was a camp of groundhogs, yeah, yeah. Um but um this like sort of filtered down through my extended family to the point that I remember there was one day that we were having like a holiday dinner, and I don't remember what uh holiday was. I think my grandpa had even died at this point. Okay, and but my cousins were gonna continue the tradition because like we're in mid mid-dinner, and one of them looks outside and just goes, Woodchuck. And and everyone hops up, and then someone else goes, Get the guns. Get the guns. And so so you know, like they go out to the bar and they grab the shotguns, the rifles, you know, someone's got a Glock. Okay. And then uh they go out in the back, and you know, they're you know, this is a a rural area, you know, kind of where they've taken um uh you know, former farm country and like you know, subdivided it into like larger properties and things. And but it's basically you know just you know, four or five dudes just like shooting at a hill where a uh groundhog was uh a little while ago. But of course, you know, it's burrowed back into the hole at that time. And so and then they're like, oh, he went in the hole, they went and they're like, I don't think I got him. Then someone goes, get the gas. And so now the plan is um to pour the gas into the hole and then light it up, okay, which is either gonna, I don't know, explode the groundhog in the tunnel, or like shoot him out so they can shoot it again, right? Okay. And um, and I was the the youngest on that side of my family, so it was my job to go and light it up because they thought that if something exploded, it was less likely to hit me.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:53

Uh there's a lot of logic happening. Yeah, absolutely. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:57

Um, yeah, so you know so I went over there, lit it up. Um and unfortunately they didn't shoot a groundhog out of that, and we we don't actually know what happened to that to this day. But yeah, yeah, my family has a long storied history of uh tormenting and harassing woodchucks, and uh, you know, uh so it it you know that story was near and dear to my heart. We never unfortunately for all the the woodchucks and groundhogs that my family killed, they never actually ate them. And you know, as an adult, I'm like, well, that's kind of a missed opportunity, you know what I mean? Yeah, like I I would I would have enjoyed uh at least trying that out.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:34

Yeah, you should use every part of the animal, right? And you know, if you know you could be walking around and fine, you know, groundhog skins right now.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:43

That's what I'm saying. Yeah, you don't know, yeah. What a waste. Yeah, but anyway, that brings us to the end of soup history. And once again, if you have a uh a better name for this segment, feel free to email us at friends super at gmail.com and uh you know we'll go through some of those on uh a future episode.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:01

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:11

Okay, so you you were saying that uh my my story of cleaning up uh groundhog carcasses explains who I am.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:19

Yeah, you know, because I think a child when they're when they're just like introduced to hardcore, you know, trauma, they're they're they're gonna remove all emotion. They're gonna they're gonna they're gonna hole up inside of themselves.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:37

Like a groundhog.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:38

Like a groundhog. Like you you have a little ground sog groundhog inside you, and it's saying, you know, they can't hurt us here, you know, as you you know, carry goose carcasses and you know, which is which is hilarious, because like I don't even consider that a traumatic part of my childhood.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:56

That's just kind of a lot of people.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:57

You don't even know, you don't know any better. You don't this is normal. It's just like, yeah, like this it's not trauma. We all did it.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:05

Yeah, you know, you just you sometimes you gotta clean up bodies when you go over to your grandparents. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:09

I get it, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:11

Uh well, this uh this brings us to the end of the episode now. Um we had a good time though. I think you know, we covered some good stories. Uh you know, there was less in the um the soup crime department this time.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:26

Right. I I avoided the soup crime.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:27

Well, which is good. We need to like you know, bring back good news stories, like you know, just uh 50 cents or uh I call them 50 cents. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:37

50 cents. Because you're you're proper.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:39

Yeah, exactly. Um, and you know, uh hopefully he's getting a tour of the Campbell's factory and and learning all about their their chicken made with love. Yeah. Um lead. Yeah, lead. Oil. Oil. Uh vegetables. And earthworms. And earthworms. Love. Love. Um, you know, and then we uh got the story uh what was your soup noise news story? I you know what's been so far away that you don't even remember anymore. No, I don't know. You don't even know. No, no. Um and then you know, we got the the tale of the uh Titanic PCP and then the uh the history of the the the salt and boca jumping mouth I don't know, misnomer, I would say. Right, right. Um something that apparently only exists here, and then you know, of course the delightful tale of the origin and soup connection of Groundhog's Day and Groundhog's Day soup.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:43

And groundhog soup, yeah, yeah, yeah. And um I suppose we should speak of the most dangerous soup ingredients.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:51

We should, yeah. Let me pull up the list and see where we're at here, because we could add um groundhogs to the list. Okay. Um we could also add PCP to the list, but I don't know if we want to include that.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:01

How many people have been killed by PCP? Probably not that many. You know, it's kidding. It's an a lot. Well, that's the thing, though.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:08

Uh like if you really want to go down the drug rabbit hole with that, you know, it it's more of like a dissociative psychedelic kind of thing. So it's like people have had mental breakdowns, but I don't know that you necessarily like overdose on PCP. It's more like as a result of it, yeah. Yeah, yeah, like you go so crazy that you end up doing something that kills you, like bath salt stuff. Right. Exactly. Yeah. Um, but okay, let's um let's pull up the list here. Okay. So as of right now, we have uh freshwater snail as the most dangerous, yeah. Uh then snake, then hippopotamus, right, then all hooved animals, which are kind of lumped lumped in together, yeah. Then turtle. Okay, and then dirt.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:54

Okay. Well, number one, we have to make an amendment here. Okay. Because I did research uh how many deaths are associated with dirt. And it's more than you think.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:05

Okay, is this from being buried alive or being eaten?

SPEAKER_00 1:26:08

Sometimes.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:08

So are you counting landslides in this?

SPEAKER_00 1:26:10

We're counting landslides, we're also counting uh dust inhalation.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:14

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:15

Which causes lung problems that also kills people. But you know, they say in in a calendar year, just from landslides alone in the United States, 50 people a year die.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:27

Um do you think that's more or less than are killed by turtles?

SPEAKER_00 1:26:30

Uh it's more than killed by turtles. Okay. Um and uh I would say with groundhog in all my research, uh extensive internet research, um, there is not one single documented case of a death related to a groundhog.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:50

Okay. So we're gonna put groundhogs at the bottom. We're gonna put dirt above turtles. Are we gonna put them above or below hooved animals?

SPEAKER_00 1:26:57

Uh well, if you add all those things combined, dirt actually kills more than a hoofed animal would.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:04

Okay. Right? But probably less than a hippopotamus.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:07

Probably less than a hippopotamus.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:08

Wow, dirt climbing the ladder here. Yeah. Up to number four.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:12

That's that true underdog story. I love it. I love it.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:14

Um, so we got groundhog at the end. Yeah. Uh PCP. I actually let's see. We're gonna look this up live right now and see like how many deaths are attributed to search the internet while we're talking to PCP annually. Um let's see. Yeah. Let's see. PCP death rate. Um, see that now we're gonna um get into uh a little uh acro or sorry, initialism problem because there's also uh n uh pneumocystis pneumonia, which is called uh PCP as well. So we want to see PCP drug death rate.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:56

This is a big except that she would read it and you you you Hear just like she'd be reading it fast under her breath. And then you're like PCP.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:05

Oh, and then the PCP.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:08

Yeah. Let's see. Oh, let's see what the Department of Justice says about this. I have to tell them that I am not a robot. Um this is great.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:19

This is a great podcast.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:20

Oh, I know. Great. Oh, let's uh also, this is kind of fun. Um, it doesn't have uh death rates on here, uh-huh, but it does have uh street terms for PCP, uh, which is kind of fun. Do you want to hear uh a couple street terms for PCP if you if in case anyone ever offers you something on the street?

SPEAKER_00 1:28:41

Yeah, if if anyone's like, you want a fruit smoothie? Yeah. I'm like, sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:45

Okay, so we've got uh Animal Trank. Okay. Which is wild. I don't really think it's a um it's an animal tranquilizer, but we'll we'll uh come back to that later on. Black dust.

unknown 1:28:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:59

Boat. Boat. Uh cliffhanger.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:02

Oh, I like that because of Sylvester Stallone.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:04

Yeah. Crystal T. Yeah. Uh Dipper. Uh okay, so that makes sense too, because sometimes people uh dip uh marijuana joints in PCP. So yeah, okay, so it's a dipper. So this was also would also be why they're calling it dust joint. Okay. Uh this is probably one of my favorites. Uh Goondust.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:24

Goondust.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:25

Yeah. Uh Happy Sticks.

unknown 1:29:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:28

Uh Horse Tranquilizer, which again, I don't think you use it to tranquilize a horse. Um, but, you know. Uh cools, like K-O-O-L, I feel like they'd get sued by the cigarette company.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:42

But I mean, it's probably this is probably not an official brander of PCP. Probably not. If you had a PCP company, you'd be in trouble.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:49

Right. Oh, this is great. They also call it Lethal Weapon. So we got two movie references. Yeah, we've got Lethal Weapon and Cliffhanger. Nice. Uh Magic Dust. Both of those are bangers, by the way. Oh, they they really are. Uh OPP. Okay. Um Paz. Uh Peter Pan. Oh. Uh Sherman's or Trank. Uh, which is fun. Um, but they do not have Death rates on here. Um let's see. I know. So I'm I'm gonna leave PCP towards the bottom for right now. Okay. Um and then we're gonna do a little bit more.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:26

It's more in a pending area.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:28

Yeah, I think we're gonna we're gonna leave them on the you know what? I'm gonna just take go on out of the limb and say it probably killed more people than groundhogs. Right. Yeah. So I'm just gonna put them above there. And then I'm gonna say probably less than hoofed animals. What do you think about turtle? Do you think that there have been more turtle-related deaths or PCP-related deaths?

SPEAKER_00 1:30:51

I'm gonna say PCP-related deaths. Okay. It's probably killed a lot more than you'd think.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:55

Okay, so we're putting it at third to the bottom. Um yeah, for now. So now our updated list is freshwater snail, snake, hippopotamus, dirt, hoofed animals, PCP, turtle, and groundhog. Yeah. This is a good soup. It's yeah, I think.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:14

That's a good list. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:16

Uh alright, well, I think that's it for us today. Yeah. Um we will be back soon with another episode with more soupy topics. Um, and then once again, if you have any other suggestions for uh segments or names of the segments or anything else that you just want to talk to us about, email us at friends super, friendsplural, super like soup at gmail.com.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:38

Yeah, yeah. And let's think you know, we have to think of a better way. Uh we have to implement the Lopez scale. How many dimples are we giving things here?

SPEAKER_03 1:31:46

I I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:48

Maybe that'll be when we review a soup.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:50

Oh, yeah. When we do super we do one or two dimples. Yeah. Or like how many how many dimples are on the scale?

SPEAKER_00 1:31:55

Uh see you're being very literal again. You're just like two dimples. A person has two dimples. Yeah. That's all there is. But it can be up to like, let's say, you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:05

But I need to know the scale because you 14. Well, from one to fourteen point. Why is it a fourteen-point scale?

SPEAKER_00 1:32:10

What what do you mean? Why is it a two-point scale?

SPEAKER_03 1:32:12

No, but I'm just saying, like, you know, at least like binary.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:15

It's one, it's good or bad. That's fine.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:16

It's like thumbs up, thumbs down. But the but the you know, like a five or ten point scale, I understand, but like a fourteen point scale. What's what's the difference? I that's that's fine. What if you have if you have an opinion on our our dimple scale, you can email us about that as well, too. Thank you. All right, folks, we'll see you next time.