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Beyond The Human
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Beyond The Human
EP 20: Mediumship Meets Astrology with TJ
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In this episode, I sit down with TJ, a medium and astrologer, for a fascinating deep dive into the world of astrology, intuition, and spiritual guidance.
We unpack the connection between astrology and astronomy, and why astrology was once considered a legitimate science rooted in observing planetary patterns and human behaviour.
TJ explains how a birth chart acts like a snapshot of the sky at the exact moment you were born, revealing themes, lessons, strengths, and challenges that may show up throughout your life.
We also explore how TJ combines astrology with his intuitive mediumship to deliver more accurate and grounded readings, using both planetary placements and spiritual guidance to help people navigate life with greater clarity.
Along the way, we talk about Saturn returns, common misconceptions about astrology, red flags to watch out for with psychic mediums, and why spirituality should empower people rather than create dependency. It’s insightful, thought-provoking, and full of laughs throughout.
Whether you’re astrology-obsessed, spiritually curious, or completely sceptical, this conversation will definitely make you think differently about the stars above and what they might say about us.
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Sometimes even in meditation, like I'll just get these like a face and sometimes it'll just be one but it'll start to fade. What would you suggest I do?
SPEAKER_00Have a conversation with them. Awesome.
SPEAKER_02Who are you? Why are you here? It's a simple you've you have to treat them as see when people go on the other side, their personality doesn't change.
SPEAKER_03Welcome to season one of Beyond the Human. Remember who you are. I'm your host, Hazel Ray, singer, songwriter, experiencer, and messenger for those walking the edge of remembrance just like me. This is not a podcast to convince you of anything. Really, just take what resonates, leave what doesn't. This is a transmission, a call to the ones waking up, the ones remembering, the starseeds, the sensitives, the truth seekers, bridging science and spirit. If you're listening to this, you are ready. So let's remember together. Hi, welcome to another episode of Beyond the Human. I'm your host, Hazel Ray, and today I have a very special guest with me. His name is TJ, and he is a medium and astrologer, and he has his own business which he runs, which is spiritual guidance with TJ. So you can 100% book a reading today at some point. We'll give you all the details. It will be linked down below anyway. But I have so many questions. I can guarantee you this conversation will be a hoot. So make sure you stay around for all these little mic top moments. So welcome, TJ.
SPEAKER_02No pressure. Hello, thank you for having me, Azel. How are you?
SPEAKER_03Oh, I'm I'm really well. I'm really well. I was just I've been telling you off air that I have a sick child at home, so we may have some beautiful coughing in the background, but the show must I'll start it up for you.
SPEAKER_01But you know.
SPEAKER_03I appreciate it. So just for continuity.
SPEAKER_05Yes.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, thank you. Thank you. So TJ not only is just you're not just doing readings like one-on-one, you do live shows with people as well in your hometown of Sydney. So if you're in that Sydney vicinity, um, I highly recommend. I had uh TJ recommended to me from Dale, who was the hypnotherapist who I had on earlier, I think last month. But yeah, so highly recommended, which is beautiful. But I really wanted to get you on because I haven't had an astrologer on yet. I have had a psychic medium before, but psychic medium and astrology together, it sounds a little bit more, I don't know, I would say scientific based in a little way, because you're using, I suppose, the planets and the alignment of the stars to guide maybe where somewhere is someone is in their their time, but we'll get into that in a minute. But I wanted to ask your question to sort of start the conversation off for the listeners. And the one that I actually really liked was what's something about astrology or psychic work that most people completely misunderstand.
SPEAKER_02Uh, two things. I I think when people look at their bird chart, if you if we look at astrology only specifically, there's this very fatalistic point of view that the and predetermined sort of point of view, this is my life and this is fate, and this is how things are going to play out. Yeah, sure, astrology in your chart is the map of your life, and it would indicate the themes and the stories and the situations that might play out in your life, but it doesn't take away the power and the agency and the influence you have over your own life. Like I remember when I was first studying astrology, um, well, we start with a controversial name here, but uh one of the first charts I studied was Osama bin Laden. But as part of the workshop, we weren't given the name that this chart belongs to this person. And I'm looking at this chart going, this is a highly intelligent man. Um, and he can change the world. Now, unfortunately, he did so in bad ways. But but this is where I go that the power and the influence of the agency depends on you, how you choose to use what's been offered to you or what's available to you if you like, if that makes sense.
SPEAKER_03It does. I actually know what I mean. I like to resonate with the concept that we all have light and dark within us, so we either choose to lean into the shadow or choose to lean into the light. I kind of even associate that with drug taking or drinking, it's like leaning into that shadow side, that low vibrational behavior. But it's always a choice, you know.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely, absolutely. I think the other the other thing that people don't understand, and this I come from a professional perspective, like other professionals, is this issue of not understanding what your limitations are, as in everything can be predicted and everything can be forecasted, which I don't believe is true. I think you can do this job very well. But say, for example, to go down to the point of if you're willy-nilly predicting someone's lifespan or how when someone's gonna die, um, I'm not sure that that's possible, or I would even say irresponsible. Do you know what I mean? So these are these are a couple of things I find people don't understand and um need to.
SPEAKER_03And I suppose that is a red flag. I spoke to uh the other psychic about this sometimes in this work. There would be red flags when it comes to specifically psychic mediums. If someone's going to literally tell you potentially that information, you know, and if they really believe in this and they don't understand that they have free will, I mean, I don't know. Does it become that self-fulfilling prophecy? The like stress is an indicator of creating sickness and dis-ease in the body, you know. So I suppose would you what would be some red flags for my listeners if they're wanting to go and work with a a psychic mediumslash astrologer?
SPEAKER_02Oh god, you're a tough question.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, sorry, it just came off.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, why not? Um, number one, I I let me put it this way every every reader, every psychic medium astrologer has their own style. My belief and my opinion, the way I do it, and the way I try to practice it with clients or with whoever, is I try to make this work as practical and usable as possible. So if everything everything becomes about things like why do you doubt yourself or you're worth it, I am not sure that that's useful information. Yes, that's yes, that's positive and that's affirmative. But that is not my job. My my job is to forecast and to predict and to advise based on what's coming up for you. Does that make sense? Yeah. So um the other thing I I think the red flag is when people trying to take on the more therapeutic role, like try to be your psychologist or your therapist, as opposed to be a reader. So and when we try and be a therapist for someone, and this is how you should handle everything in your really in your emotional life, or this is what you should do about this situation or that situation. We can guide, we can't prescribe. Now, this idea, uh, the other red flag would be I mean, I've had readers say, I'm not gonna name names, but I've had readers say to me, for example, when you ask for timing information, which is a very common thing, you know, you go to a reader, and what is the first thing you're gonna ask? When is this gonna happen? Um and the the answer I got from one of them was, you know, you shouldn't ask for timing. I'm like, well, why fucking not? Sorry, I'm just swearing already. But um I'm like, well, what yes, it's timing is the hardest bit in my line of work, but to say that timing shouldn't be done or is impossible to do, um, I think is complete BS. And again, that's a red flag to me. Um the last red flag I often find this day and age, and you often see this on social media, is when Rita's gone on on everything is about healing and major transformation, and every full moon and every new moon is just going to change your life and turn turn your life on its head. Not really. I I think that most full moons and most new moons are about turning a page in your life and nudging your life forward. I mean, how many life-changing moments you've had in your life? Yes, you've had major ones, but I would say in I can count mine on my fingers, five, six.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I feel yeah. I feel like it's around those Saturn return times, though.
SPEAKER_02Correct. Uh it will be. One of them will be.
SPEAKER_03Truth be told, when I had my I don't know which one it was, you would be able to tell me it was when I was 32.
SPEAKER_02That's not Saturn return. That that would be Saturn return happens from the age of 27 to oh anywhere between 27 to 29, 30, something like that.
SPEAKER_03So yeah, it was in that time frame that the decisions were made, and then I blew up the life at 32, though. Does that make sense?
SPEAKER_02Yes, it does. So it's you're right. What happens is if Saturn return everything doesn't change in Saturn Return, or I shouldn't say everything, a lot doesn't change in Saturn return. There's a lot of planting seeds that will have happened in Saturn Return, then that will take effect or grow later.
SPEAKER_03So with that, sorry, just on that. Now my brain's got going off. So okay, the seeds were planted in the Saturn return. Obviously, I watered them and chose for change. If I don't choose for change in that Saturn return, do I go to relearn the lessons in my next the same ones? Is that how it works?
SPEAKER_02Uh well, okay. So let so when you say Saturn return, let's say let's stick to the Saturn return and Saturn cycle. When we say Saturn return, what is Saturn return? Saturn return is when Saturn comes back to the same point where you were born, where uh, you know, it basically comes back to the same point in the same sign in the sky when you were born. And that happens only every 27 to 29 years. So, by direct definition, if you look at it, people will have three Saturn returns in their lifetime. First will be around 27 to 29, then we'll be late 50s, then we'll be you do the math, late late 80s, mid to late 80s, if you like. Does that make sense? So, what happens with Saturn? So, Saturn return, it can be divided into four stages. Now, so if you look at your life and you look if you look at your last Saturn returns specifically, without going into too much technicality, I'll keep it simple. Um, you look at age seven, age 14, roughly, and age 21, and you will see that what happened in your Saturn return will have correlated to what happened in those time frames for you, age seven, eight, fourteen, fifteen, twenty-one, twenty-two, something like that. So those years were a precursor to your Saturn return. Now, circling back to your question, that if you don't choose change in Saturn return, does that mean you wait till your next Saturn return 30 years? Not really. What we're doing is we're dividing the cycle into seven-year increments. So you what was seeded, what came up in Saturn Return, will reach some sort of a turning point or a turning of a page or a turning of a chapter over the next six, seven years.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and that's what happened for sure.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so it's like, for example, saying that I changed careers at the or I left the corporate world in 28, 29, and around 35 I became a professional. That's what happened with me. So I used to be a project manager, credit manager in Melbourne.
SPEAKER_03I actually wanted you to lean into that a little bit because people uh forget that to walk the pathless path or to follow the you know the inner guidance or your you know what I would call your purpose. I mean, I feel that we have many. It doesn't necessarily always have to be one direct thing, but I've come to this work from studying neuroscience and being a secondary school teacher, and you've come to your work from I've I I used to be in credit management.
SPEAKER_02I started being a my first corporate job was a debt collector, and then I became a client manager, account manager, credit manager, whatever have you. Uh, but it got so boring. Uh it got to a point where I can't do this anymore. But then, you know, I also I also got healthy nudges from life. You know, I always say this that life will keep going, it'll keep giving you a nudge. You need to do this, you need to do this. And if you don't do it ultimately, there'll be a little bit of a brick pat. Um, no, this is happening now. Um but I had those nudges where, for example, I went for my first ever reading years ago, and the lady said to me, you know, you should go to at in right at the very end, she said to me, You should go to Arthur Finley College or Mediumship in London. And I said to her, I'm like, Why should I? And she goes, Because you're going to do this professionally. I'm telling her, I'm like, ma'am, you're a crack addict. Um so, and then then I was in London and I went to that college for a week, and I met my teacher and my mentor, uh, who's who's passed away now, unfortunately, Miss Mavis, Mrs. Mavis Petilla. And she said the same thing to me that you think you're here on a holiday, but uh you're going to do this as a job. And I'm going, all of you are on cocaine. So so I I I guess, yeah, what I'm saying is if you'll keep getting nudged up uh by life, by forces, by angels, by God, whatever you believe in, um, ultimately the point is that you have to land on that pathway.
SPEAKER_03We discussed this when we had our little like phone chat, and I liked using the analogy of the choose your own adventure book.
SPEAKER_05Yes.
SPEAKER_03And how you know you get to the end of the page and it says, okay, if you want to, you know, go to this place, you're going to go to page 20. But if you want to go to this place, you can go to page 14, which might be the next page. And then the idea is that you could have gone straight to page 20, but you choose to go into go to 14, and then you've gone to 15, and then you've gone to 16 rather than just going to page 20 because you didn't less learn the lesson. Well, you didn't want to choose that path because it might have been harder, the harder choice. But we always end up at the end of the book at some point. Correct.
SPEAKER_02Well, I think this is where that's the only part where I would go. There are things that are fated and cannot be avoided. And this is where I go as a reader or somebody that's doing this job. My job is to discuss with you what might be fated, and around that, what is the advice? What I mean by that is big my belief would be that big topics like who you marry or what you do with your life or what country you live in may well be fated. Now, how you get there, that well might be your free will and your pathway to influence or change or shift or navigate how you want to. Does that make sense?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it does. I have a friend who who has was born in Australia, but her whole life, like the most textbook Aussie blonde, blue eyes, just wanted to live in Italy. She's like, I'm just called, I'm supposed to be in Italy, my person's in Italy, and now she lives in Italy, she's had a little son over there. Um that's beauty, you know.
SPEAKER_02My my father used to tell me he's passed away now, but my father that when I was a child, I used to say at the age of from the age of six that I'm gonna leave home and I'm gonna travel the world and I'm gonna live abroad. Um, so I just think that I think from just that experience alone, I'm convinced that there's a there's a birth home and there's a soul home. And eventually we'll go to the soul home.
SPEAKER_03Isn't that funny? And uh the other thing when you're talking about things that were just your knowing, I felt like as a child, my whole life, I've just felt like I had a message that I had to share with the world, and it actually felt like a burden for a really long time because I was like, I'm not famous and I'm not this, and I'm like, I don't even know what this message is. And then as you know, I started to step into alignment, it all just started to unfold as to what that message might be and how that might be um, I suppose, projected to the world and given to the world, and it doesn't have to be necessarily on Justin Bieber scale, but it just needs to be put out there, you know.
SPEAKER_02Well, we're getting there, why not? Well, we're getting there.
SPEAKER_03No. Oh my goodness, what would I wear? That's the question.
SPEAKER_02What what well we'll discuss that later, darling.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_03I wanted to sort of let the listeners know if they wanted to book in with you. What kind of what what do you do with your reading? So obviously you're an astrologer and you're a psychic medium. So let's understand how you marry the two.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so when you when I work with you, so I'm using site, I'm doing psychic work, be meaning that is hearing, seeing, feeling what I get from your energy. Uh, then I'm talking to your spirit family, which will pass on information to me that's through feeling or seeing. They give me images, they pass on words, they pass on thoughts. Now, when I say pass on thoughts, um, I'm gonna do a little bit of an exercise, let's say, and just to make people understand what I mean by that is close your eyes. Um, and because I just saw Devil West Prada, we're going to imagine Meryl Street talking to us in our head. Um, because this is not this is not turquoise, it's not lapis, it's cerulean. Um so now you open your eyes. So what you saw in your head is how I see dead people.
SPEAKER_03Oh, it's got buzzed.
SPEAKER_02Does that make sense?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, truth bumps, man. Yes, you're speaking the truth here. That's crazy.
SPEAKER_02So you see them in your mind, and the voice you hear it, you heard not Meryl Streep, you heard your own thoughts, and in your own voice. Yes, you imagine Meryl Streep, sure. The point coming back to is with dead people, you can be getting worse. I'm sorry, I lovingly call them dead people, but you're spirit family. Um, they might they can pass me images, they can pass on thoughts as in what the words, they can pass on feelings, as in a knowing this will happen, or this will not happen, or this is good, or this is bad, this is dangerous, this is fun, so on and so forth. Um, and lastly, I look at astrology as in your birth chart. I use astrology as a GPS of time. Why? Because when I first started out, one of my frustrations with Mediumship or Dead People was there is no sense of time. You go, they'll go March, and I'm like, which March? 2027, 2029, 2030, what March? This is where you married up with astrology, and you go, okay, your grandfather is talking about your love life, and then I'm looking at your chart and going, when is the next most active period coming up in your chart in your love life? So point being, if you sort of use the logic of to put two and two together, he must be talking about this period. Now, as I said, timing to something to be exact is possible, but it's hard. It doesn't all always work. Meaning you can, you know, I'll give you an example. Like, I had a girl come to me once, and uh this is quite quite some before COVID actually, and she um she walked into my office and I said to her, I'm like, ma'am, you have a very good love period going. Are you dating a police officer? Um and she goes, Oh, you're right, it is a very good love period, but I'm not I'm getting married in a couple of weeks. But it's not a police officer, he's a businessman. And I'm like, Oh, okay, it must be for someone else. I'll leave it with you. Um four or five years later, she walks into my office again. She says to me that she's divorced and now she's dating a police officer.
SPEAKER_03I love that.
SPEAKER_02So, you know, this is where you marry things up. But do you do you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you're using it as a guidance tool with the information that you're getting. And I suppose it, like I said, it gives a little bit more. You can't really say scientific because I don't use it as a science anymore, but um, that correlation. We we spoke about this that um correlation doesn't equal causation. That's like what we do with maths and science. But there is there is correlation there with the, I'm guessing, where the planets are. And I did do a little bit of research, and it was in the 1500s, it was such a science back then that doctors in Europe actually had to have studied astrology to be a doctor.
SPEAKER_02Well, Carl Jung uh used to use astrology to, you know, with his clients. He used that as a tool to be able to work with his patients, so it's something as recent as that. This is not new. Um, I mean, is it a science? It has scientific components, I would say. Yeah. What I mean by that is we are we are using astronomy as movement to study movements of planets and where planets are and the speed of planets and so on and so forth. Uh but I would say astrology or even mediumship, my teacher used to say this because I asked her at some point, I remember asking Mavis, who's, as I said, uh passed away now, but I said to him, like, how do I know I've done a good job? And she used to say two things. She goes, TJ, um, especially with mediumship, and I'll tie it up to astrology, but especially with mediumship, if if you've done a good job, you've made them cry out of emotion, not in a bad way. Uh, number two, with this job, as ironic as it may sound, it is how effective you are is basically empirical study. What I mean by that is how many times in a reading do you say yes to me and how many times do you say no to me. And because I I make clients record sessions, or not record it, and listen to it later, you can basically do a statistical analysis of how many things have I said happen and how many not. Now, I understand that comes in comes with its own limitations, because not everything can be timed, so some things may happen five, four, three years later, but do you know what I mean? Um so it has scientific components in the sense that effectiveness of it is basically an analytical study. Did it did this happen or not? Did you move or not? Did you get a job or not? Did you meet someone or not? It's as simple as that.
SPEAKER_03Do you find that sometimes, sorry, this has just come to me, that you'll get someone who's potentially come to you. I'm sort of I've I've got voices in my head as I'm saying this, but anyway, that's potentially not ready to hear what you have to say and then may block the reading. Does that ever happen, or is everyone that's coming to you is there and ready to receive?
SPEAKER_02Um, I think with with with mediumship, what happens is they will never give information that you're not ready to hear. Uh so your family knows you very well. They know what you're here for, they know what you need to know, they know what you need to hear. And the difference between mediumship and say perhaps your own thoughts and your own mind or your own imagination, I suppose, is that mediumship, as in your family, is coming from a place of love and kindness and support. Do you know what I mean? Uh the difference is as follows. Um, if I'm coming from a place, so if I'm you just using my mind or imagination or anybody, not just me. Say, for example, recently, I'd use a recent example. Somebody in a reading, in a group reading, asked me, Will I have another child? I already have a child. Uh, and I said, Unfortunately not. However, the reason being that the reason you're not going to have a child is what your family's saying. If you had another child, you'll stay in this same position in the same place with the same man that you're trying to leave. And that will keep you stuck in the situation that you're not meant to. Do you know what I mean? So that added component from her grandfather switches it to a place of love. Meaning that it so they'll add, you'll give you information in a way that you're ready to hear, or what you're doing.
SPEAKER_03Which allows the potential to lean in a bit more to the guidance. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Correct, correct.
SPEAKER_03So you've said some things I need to I need to stop and go back to them. I've got two things that I wanted to talk about. One of one of them was, which was a question later on that I had, but we've come to it now about imagination and thought. So you just got me to close my eyes and think about Meryl Streep and I thought about her. And you've said to me that this is sort of how you will receive a message. So, how can you discern between what is your imagination and what is message?
SPEAKER_02Well, it's it's gonna sound cliche and very simplistic, but the only the only way to get to that point of knowing what's the difference is practice, practice, practice, repetition, repetition, repetition. And what I mean by that, it's like going to the gym, for example. You're not gonna lift 100 kilos or bench press 100 kilos straight away. You'll start with I mean, what do you mean? I mean, what do you mean? Look at these tax men. But you know, but um the difference I find is when you're coming from when you're coming at it mediumistically, as in if my father's talking to me, he's talking to me with love and kindness and gently, but he's also being uh, I suppose he he's trying to help, and in that he's being honest. Whereas if something is my imagination, often our anxiety comes in come comes in that something bad, something bad's about to happen. Yes, this can happen, but what if I fuck this up this way or that way? Do you know what I mean? Um so that's the difference. It feels it feels gentler when you get something with mediumship. It just feels like there's a droplet of thought that comes through here, even if it's your own voice. Whereas if it's your own brain or your own imagination, you'll I get it on the sides and it feels more fear or headache.
SPEAKER_03Interesting.
SPEAKER_02And I ignore that.
SPEAKER_03Well, I do discuss on this channel and when I do my shows about the um trying to inform people how it is very scientific to understand that we are just antennas and we receive frequency. We receive it all the time. The reason why we see is because we receive light frequency. The reason why I can hear is because I receive like um my brain is able to transpose certain frequencies in the bandwidths into and decode the electrical and chemical impulses as thought, or what I hear, or what I see, or what I feel. But what's been lost is in ancient times, we we did get taught that thought was the sixth sense, which is how you actually receive message from the I would say the field of information that is around us, like Wi-Fi. We can't see the Wi-Fi, and we can't see the ancestors trying to talk to us under that, but they are. And I try to explain to people too that we all have this ability, it's just you're more tuned in because you've sat and, like you said, fine-tuned, you've done the reps to know the difference.
unknownYep.
SPEAKER_03And I was just gonna say I try to encourage people to sit and listen and be the observer. And one of the things I noticed, which I discussed with you, was that I hear you thoughts when something is talking to me, and I hear I thoughts when I'm like self-generating.
SPEAKER_02Um, and I think when you're getting messages from the other side, they're more guidance-oriented.
SPEAKER_03Yes.
SPEAKER_02Whereas if I'm imagining things or I'm thinking, or if I'm overthinking, it's more I don't always say catastrophizing, but it's always worrying about what will or will not happen. My father that's on the other side doesn't worry about what will not happen. He's guiding me so that I can take the next best step. What I mean by that is Yeah. What I mean by that is again, let me give you an example. I had a client once, ages ago, uh, a few years ago, and that it our reading was almost done. This is online, and I'm telling, one more thing. I want you to get checked. Because your grandfather kept telling telling me, keeps telling me, you need to get checks uh for a health issue that you've had before. I'm not gonna say too much more, but except it runs in the on your father's side of the family. Go get checked for that, and you'll know what it is. And the guy was completely fine at the time, and he said he asked me, go, should I get checked straight away? I'm like, pretty much. Like as soon as possible. And what ended up happening was he got checked and got a double bypass surgery. Wow, even though there was nothing wrong with him. Now, this is where I go that there's a message coming from the other side, and it came as a piece of guidance, not as if I've if it was my fearful imagination, I would have gone, Oh my god, you're gonna die, you need to do something. Whereas the other side is a lot more calmer, and they're just going, Well, this is the thing, this is the issue, this is the line of thought, father side of the family health issue, go back checked.
SPEAKER_03Oh, it's your washing machine.
SPEAKER_02Yes, it's a dryer.
SPEAKER_03I have a washing machine that does the same sound.
SPEAKER_02Oh dear.
SPEAKER_05Well, I thought it was a dumb one.
SPEAKER_03That's fine. I've I've had it on my show before, so my audience will be accustomed to the washing machine. Um, I actually have a question for you, which I didn't ask the last second, but you spoke about this. I wanted to ask you, you might not have the answer for me. But ever since I was young, sometimes it doesn't happen all the time, but when I'm uh sort of getting into sleep, and I'm in that really like in between sleep and deep sleep before falling asleep, I get these flashes of people's faces, and they're really fast, but they're like what I would call a negative. Do you remember the negative pictures that you used to get? So there's like light in places where it would be dark, and but if I could draw, I'd be able to draw the most intricate pictures of these people's faces. And I've never understood what it what it is. Have you got any idea? Or do you have this ever happened to you?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, sure. Well, it's your spirit family trying to connect with you, essentially. It's people that are around you trying to connect with you. It's not, I wouldn't say it's ghosts or anything unless you felt something terrible or fearful or something happening. Well, why do I say that? Because when you're in this half sleep, half not sleep kind of state, your conscious brain is shut down or slowing down. So you don't have time to question or overthink it. Who is this or what is this? I'm just doing it. Um and that's really what it is, is trying to they're trying to be around you, whether they're trying to give you guidance or just send you healing energy, power, whatever may be happening, depending on the scenario and the state of your life. Um, that's that's my simple.
SPEAKER_03So, and if that happens again, because it does happen sometimes, even in meditation, like I'll just get these like a face, and sometimes it'll just be one, but it'll start to fade. Is there a way that I could start to lean into that more or like communic? Like, what would you suggest I do?
SPEAKER_00Have a conversation with them.
SPEAKER_02Ask them. Who are you? Why are you here? It's a simple you've you have to treat them as see. When people go on the other side, their personality doesn't change. My father's my father on the other side still loves whiskey. He still wants to watch television after dinner for an hour. Um so if he's coming and he still will want to talk to me about finances and property and this and that, he wouldn't talk to me about emotional stuff, tell me my grandmother. So, where I'm going with this is ask them, who are you and why are you here? What do you want to talk about? What do you have to say? And you might get a thought, you might get another image, you might get another flash, you might get a sensation in your body. Um, and that will be your answer.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_02The go ahead. No, you I thought you were gonna say you Yeah, no, the the other thing I find it's almost like treating it, and I take it back to the idea of analysis and empiric almost making it an empirical study. Every time you see them, you ask them a question, you hear a thought, and you can do this with tarakas as well, by the way. You ask a question, you get an answer, whether that's a thought or an image, you type it in an Excel spreadsheet, whether you do it hypothetically, and then you've built up a database, let's say over six months that tells you, I saw this, this was the question, this was the outcome.
SPEAKER_00And therefore, now I know that how do they communicate with me on the other side?
SPEAKER_03Yes.
SPEAKER_02Do you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03Is that what you did when you were learning?
SPEAKER_02Uh, I made a mental database to be honest. Um, I'm not disciplined enough to make a fucking Excel spreadsheet first. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I did actually start like years ago before I went through my awakening because this was all this stuff was happening a lot, and I would feel spirit around me all the time. And I started opening it up and I started drawing symbols and bits and bobs and whats, I felt like that, and then I just got so scared that I just went shut it all down until I went through my what I could call my dark number of the soul. And now I'm not scared at all. I have no fear, and it is just something that I haven't necessarily lent completely into. But I do listen to guidance as in when I'm in meditating or when I'm journaling, like that's me connecting. But in terms of what I would say, trying to work out who is talking and who I'm connecting with, I haven't really lent into that.
SPEAKER_02Well, you don't even have to worry about that. I'm saying if even if you get the answer or not, excuse me, but just ask, just talk to them. Um, why are you here? What do you want? How are you feeling? Who are you? Just regular chat.
SPEAKER_03I just want to go back to astrology for a minute because I sort of like we go into the psychic stuff and I find it also fascinating, and so do my listeners. But in terms of astrology itself, what really is it? So, how did people get their natal chart? Like, give me a bit of a snapshot about what it really is. We went right into the Saturn return and kind of skimmed over some of the earlier parts.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So astrology basically is a study of a snapshot of the sky when you were born, depending on the location and the time you were born. And if we know your time of birth and the location of your birth, and I'm assuming we know your date of birth, but um if we know that, we can establish what is your rising sign. And a rising sign is basically it's the tr is the sign or the zodiac sign rising on the eastern horizon when you're born. And we look at that and we go, okay, this gives us now. Why is that important? It gives us it's important because it allows us to establish if you know what houses are in a birth chart. There's 12 houses, first house, second house, third house, twelfth house. And every house has its own meaning. And when I know your rising sign, I can assign particular planets taking care of or managing or ruling certain areas of life. Now I know that Venus in general is associated, for example, with love and marriage and beauty and so on and so forth. Not in everybody's chart. Yeah, sure. In general, you can not in everybody's chart. Like mine, my chart, the ruler of relationships is the moon.
SPEAKER_03Now what does that mean for you? Can you just tell me that?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, sure. So I mean it can mean a lot of things. Now, my moon is in Scorpio, it's in the 11th house. That means one of the simple significations of it is that I'm supposed to meet a partner or through friends, and I did. Or, you know, I can I'm supposed to meet a partner that's got great emotional depth or great intuitive and sharp and resilient and has had this rebirth quality in his life, and that's happened. Do you know what I mean? Um, so it's been cute that way. Um the the moon ruling relationships would also mean that me as a relationship person is particularly oriented towards partners that treat partnership as a home and a family. I am not for this idea of establishing a home and family. Uh I may not be as I personally as a person may not be that inclined to a relationship where I travel the world. Do you know what I mean? That won't be my ultimate goal, that will be the driving force, depending on how my chart is. But for somebody else, maybe a totally different situation. So astrology is basically a snapshot of studying, or sorry, it's a study of the snapshot of the sky when you're born. We're taking all the planets where they are and how they're placed in relation to each other, and then understanding what theme, stories, situations, connections you might be navigating in your life. You know, you can look at, as I said before, you can look at Osama bin Laden, you can also look at Mother Teresa, and you can see those themes without even looking at those names. Now, can you go into the exactitude of things? Probably not. Sometimes you can.
SPEAKER_03What are your thoughts on some of the apps out there? Like the pattern. I think it's the other ones started.
SPEAKER_01Oh, don't get me fucking started.
SPEAKER_03Look, um I think how accurate are they for you? Like, what are your are people using confirmation bias in there? Like, what's the thoughts there?
SPEAKER_02Um confirmation, that's enough. That's a another touchy subject. I'll address both. Look, the apps, I mean if they're being used as entertainment or if they're being used as sort of a happy, funny, fun, friendly thing. Pop cu I call it pop culture astrology, which is what the apps normally talk about. When I say pop culture, these are apps or magazines that will go, oh my god, you're a Libra, so you must unbalance. It's like, what the fuck does that mean? Um, or because you're a Scorpio, you're a bitch. And I was like, not really.
SPEAKER_03I'm a Scorpio, and I don't think I'm a bitch.
SPEAKER_02No, exactly. Well, you know, being a Scorpio me it can mean you have a lot of resilience. You have you're very good strategist, you'll be great at, for example, you know, chess of life, you're good at, so to speak. Thinking 10 moves ahead. That's one of the things. I mean, again, there are there are a hundred things. But um I think that if you look at apps as entertainment and fun, uh sure, I have no problem with it. If you're treating it as a proper astrology, it is not.
SPEAKER_03What's an experience, if you've got one, that you've had as a psychic medium that you still can't fully explain? That's just out of this world.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, sure. So um two. I'll go with the client. I will go with the client experience, then I'll go with my own. One I remember saying to a client, and this is when I'm new, you know. So when you're first starting out, you still have I mean you I have doubts even now, but when you're first starting out, you keep thinking, I'm talking out of fucking thin air. Am I making any sense to anybody? You have the because you're human. Um and I remember talking to a lady and I said to her, I'm like, Oh, do you have kids? Yes. How many? Two. I'm like, you're going to have two more. And she goes, I don't even want one more. I'm like, I think you're gonna have twins. Um and two years later, she ended up having twins. And she at the time she hated me, she thought I was stupid and didn't know what I was talking about, and so on and so forth. Uh, and I still can't get over how do you get that information? How does that come through and why does it come through? And the reason why that had to come through was that she had to get ready or she had to be pushed into starting her own business and leaving a job because she needed to be home with four kids. I'm not saying I'm not saying the father doesn't need to be, but the father had had a job where he was traveling in and out of town. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, so it was prepping her for that. Uh, the other sort of experience experience I've had is that my own is one of the first readings I ever had is somebody told me that I had a spirit around me, um, this psychic from Sydney called Steve, who was gay and he died in the in the HIV AIDS crisis, unfortunately, in the 1990s. And he'd gone to the same college, Arthur Finlay College in England. And I went, bullshit, of course there's nobody like that around me. So when I went to Arthur Finley, I went to reception and um don't tell anybody I said this, but you know, um but I'm saying that's fine. Yeah, we'll tell the world about exactly. But you know, I'm I basically found a way to double check whether a guy called Steve had gone to Arthur Finlay. And he had. And my whole every hair in my body stood up. Now, I forgot about this whole experience. This is 2014-15. Then years later, which would have been 1819, I believe, I was working at a shop called Nature's Energy in Glebe in Sydney in near near Sydney, and um this old lady walks into my office and she says to me, Oh, um, I used to see a psychic called Steve, and he told me to come see you when I was walking past today.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02And I know, and if I had ever any doubts about mediumship or spirits around me, that that day they were completely gone.
SPEAKER_03I love both of those stories, and what I love about them is that I have had similar experiences, but the the uh connection between the two is we were both brave enough to listen and lean in and just go, okay, like you know, what are the chances? What could possibly happen if I just lean in and and maybe listen and trust this? And I sometimes play games with the universe where I'm like, okay, I've got a day off. I'm like, where do I go today? And they'll be like, go to the salvo shop. And then I'm like, okay, and I'll go there, and then these weird things will happen where I'll meet someone or a conversation will happen. And even this morning I got a phone call before I came on with you about aligning some new work that I've got coming. But I was saying yesterday, I'm like, give me a sign, this is actually going to come to fruition. And automatically today I got the phone call, and I was like, Oh man. Hallelujah.
SPEAKER_02There you go. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03We shall see. It's uh watch this face. I can't talk about it yet, but it's exciting. In your experience, what are people really looking for beneath the surface? What are they coming to you for?
SPEAKER_02I think if I boil it down to just one thing and one thing only, is uh everybody wants to know that they're going to be okay and their loved ones are going to be okay. It doesn't matter what the what it doesn't matter what the question you're asking me. Um, whether you're asking about love or home or family or health or money, ultimately we're asking that I am okay, my loved ones are okay, people on the other side that have left this world that are around me in spirit, they are okay. But that it boils down to as simple as that. Yes, there's specifics and we all have our daily anxieties and shit. Um ultimately it sort of goes, just is this going to am I going to be right? Uh you think and I my job, I see it as I want people when they're working with me to walk away with sort of I suppose the value add I want them to walk away with being able to make make informed decisions and being able to use the information that comes through in their daily practical life to make sure that they'll be okay, whether that's in navigating an iffy situation or whether that's capitalizing on opportunities that might be coming both ways. What I mean by that is, for example, I remember telling a friend once, and she's also a client, I said, Oh, you might be losing your money, you might want to save money or put away some of your money with your sister or your mother who you can trust for a rainy day. Um, and so a series of circumstances, she lost hundreds of thousands of dollars. Um, as a result, I'm not gonna go into specifics, but you know, she got in got into a relationship which was toxic six months, all the money gone. And so the point of the guidance being not that you're going to lose your money and you're going to be broke, the point being that this is coming. How can you manage this better?
SPEAKER_03Yeah. One of my other questions was how do you think your work genuinely changes someone's life and how? And that's exactly how. We're using it to make informed decisions, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely. Uh, informed decisions, and I think my favorite example is the one I gave you about the heart surgery. Um the other one, the other one would be is I mean, these these are all recent examples, so I remember them clearly. But uh, I had a lady come to me who I didn't have very good news for in terms of having a child, and she uh but the point was that her health was getting hammered with IVF treatments, and obviously the financial cost of it all as well. So the the point of got and she'd had six or seven treatments or six or seven IVF attempts, still no baby. And the first thing that came through for her was you either need surrogacy or adoption, the door to the family is not shut, but you need to explore different routes.
SPEAKER_03Did she come to you and tell you she'd been having trouble, or is that something that you you pick up? And my question with that too is should people come to you with a question or should they just can they come with you for just like a general reading? Or you know, how do you prefer to work with people? Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_02Uh both. Uh so I do I do general readings, but I also do I have a I have a service called One Quest. reading when you send me when you send me a specific question, yes, no question, a direct question. When I say direct it has to be direct. Whether it's should I get will I get this job, will I get this house? Will I marry this person? Will I have a baby in the next 12 months? Um and the answer. So there's a I I work in that I work with astrology and spirit. When I'm when I say astrology, there's a branch of astrology called horror astrology. Which which basically means uh horror means comes from the Greek word or Latin word aura. Sorry if I'm getting that wrong. But in which means of the off the hour which essentially means that at the time I receive your question we take it as the birth of a question. And the birth of a question becomes therefore a bird chart for that question. And I'm analyzing that chart to answer your question.
SPEAKER_03Wow that's actually really cool. I could be wherever the planets rely on the part of the question.
SPEAKER_02So there are various techniques to answer different types of questions. But and then you'll also work with spirit in that and see okay this is a no but what's the best path forward? Meaning again if you use the example of the lady that I gave you yes and we're not having baby through IVF but what's the best way forward? Now with her specifically like you are she'd ask me a direct question. Will I concede and when if I'm doing my job right then in a gentleman reading as well the issue of kids and having kids will come up and help them on so forth and then you go into it that way.
SPEAKER_03And how long do your readings usually last?
SPEAKER_02They can be anywhere between half an hour to an hour. I have clients that go on from go for 90 minutes, two hours sometimes. When I start working with you I would suggest that start with I'm maybe killing my own business here but uh from an ethical perspective from an ethical perspective I prefer to start with 30 to 45 minutes just so that make sure we make sure that I'm connecting with you and I'm not wasting your time and money. And then if if we need longer we have longer sure we go for it.
SPEAKER_03Do you know it's funny the people that I interview on here so far everyone has done something similar where you love what you do. It comes across you love what you do so much that you're willing to be like it's my gift I want to we're here to give yeah and then I I did it my last episode was on the cycle of giving and receiving you know we have to give to receive and keep that flowing so then with that I just want to ask you for the audience it's like why why do you do what you do what what is it that keeps you going um well uh I think yeah that's a tough question.
SPEAKER_02One I was I I I had no choice really I I was told as a third by an old lady in England who witch at Art of Italy College in 2014 15 that you're going to do this professionally and I still didn't by the way um and COVID happened I was running a film school um I was the head of production of a film school which which is Sydney film school and then COVID happened film schools lost funding and I ended up being full time at this job. Why do I do what do I do? Um I love it. I think that there's something so fascinating about why something happens while how does the information come through what what is the correlation between or how do stars map or correlate with what's happening downstairs on the Earth. And it's exciting to me I th the other thing I would say is in my own life when I first started getting readings some of the experiences or the guidance of the information that I got was so shit that I went I am going to learn this properly and therefore give as much practical real information as possible.
SPEAKER_03And I do love that you actually have learned a little bit into the you do speak because I think you have a little bit of a corporate mind about statistically analysing your own work listening back.
SPEAKER_02How many yeses did I get how many no's did I get you know am I actually make connecting you know absolutely this because I used to ask my teacher Mavis again I used to ask her I'm like how do you deal with or what do you do with it it's it's relates to a question you asked me before about red flag psychics or red flag media and she used to say to me TJ people are not stupid in the end somebody would go to such a person once twice three times the fourth time or the fourth person would realize it's bullshit it it's not working. So the only way you'll see that you're doing a decent job or a good job that people are loving you for what you're doing at the top is are they coming back? Are they sending people to you? Yeah 100% and over there I speak to the commercial aspect of the business because whether it's a spiritual business or whatever it is whether it's a creative business ultimately it is a business as well.
SPEAKER_03I have my mum went and saw uh psychic medium when I I would have been she'd be able to confirm this but I reckon I was about nine I would have been less I was younger I would have been about seven because I was in my old bedroom so I'm picturing it in my head now mum's got a recording of it and she actually says that I'll be performing but I'll have a stint where I try have trouble with my mental health and I'll have an eating disorder but my mum didn't tell me any of that and it wasn't until I struggled with my eating disorder in my 20s she actually showed me this and I was like that is wild it is you know because it's not that it's genuinely super common but I had a a proper diagnosed eating disorder it's not like I had like disordered eating and like you know because that could be again a confirmation biasy looking thing but no it was a it was a real fact and she was really on point with a lot of other things that I've gone to do in my life I hadn't even started playing music then and I started playing piano when I was 12 and that was right back when I was seven. So I mean I don't have to convince myself I'm already that connected and I I get it and it makes sense to me but I the whole point of this channel is to try to get other people to start questioning and leaning in and maybe it's your conversation that we have today that you're like this might be the guy because you are genuine like I can feel your energy when I sit here and talk to you about how much you love what you do.
SPEAKER_02Yeah thank you well you know why white cat while you say this my God I absolutely love this I want to do this again by the way but I will do I have a closing question before we do the whole ending but what's one truth about being human that you think we've forgotten that we are relational relational species uh we are not every man is not an island one of my worries when I when I work with clients people friends family I think this I just feel like aloneness or being an island or it it independence is being glorified. I've got I've got absolutely nothing against independence. I think that's something really really to aspire for but in therapeutic models and of our linkage science as you said before uh independence is the adolescence or the early stage the developmental stage of life or personality where life becomes fulfilling is in deter independence. And when you have mum, dad whether it's partner or best friend people around you basically we're relational species and why I say that is I hear this commentary about healing I'm healing and I'm taking space and I'm taking time out from life because of this or that or whatever have you but you cannot heal relational trauma without being in relationships. Yes amen to this it is not possible now I don't mean to say you find you you st you steal I don't know someone's husband tomorrow that'll be me. But I think but you know Chris Hemsworth here I come but I think it's more understanding that I need to I need the the relational component is very important and that may start with the healing side of that may start with even if it's a psychologist even if it's a therapist even if it's a reader um why because the body needs to adapt to the fact that I can I can be safe in relationships and I think I really resonate with that especially with what I've been going through recently and everyone's like oh you gotta have a certain amount of time and I'm like what is time number one it's a man-made construct and number two how do I work on my triggers if I'm not being triggered exactly see the point yeah exactly you know people talk about self-love and all that and that's fantastic again if I put it in the context of we're relational species one of the components of self-love is healthy boundaries all the fucking healthy boundaries when I'm sitting at home alone except for the one where you're like don't eat the chocolate don't eat the chocolate don't eat the chocolate you're gonna really work on that exactly well you know or don't don't auto path again but um the re the real fucking healthy boundary work will be when I'm out at the pub with my friends going nah two wines I'm done yes do you know what I mean? Yes I do this is where this is where I go so my worry and my sort of thing that I keep driving home to people is we are relational beings. Yeah and I think that we're at a point where unfortunately self-sufficiency is being confused as isolation and that is simply not true.
SPEAKER_03Oh that's a mic drop moment right there say that again you said um self-sufficiency is being confused as isolation yes I felt that even in my own like work of as of late yes and you feel that you've got to because I'm a single mum too so it's like triumphant and you know and that's me working on like leaning and receiving from people and asking for help and it's okay and you know because we've been so drummed in that you know to be powerful is like to do it all on your own and I'm like I don't want to do that.
SPEAKER_02I can't do it I'm dying you know one of the uh I was listening to a comedy show recently um by a lady called Dulce Sloan she's this African American girl and um she was talking about feminine she was making jokes by the way but she was talking about independent and independent women and independent women independent women and she goes I wanna be I want to be a dependent woman I don't want to work I'm like touche so yeah but you know but you know uh I'm not saying we have to go to that extreme but no it's yeah it's just we've got to make fun we've got to have fun and what's what what's one takeaway for my listeners today that you would hope that they should take away from the our conversation that this work is real practical and supportive uh if you if you go to have a reading whether with me or anybody else um I would prefer it to me. But um well hello but uh but I think if you're not walking away with something that you can act on or or look forward to or anticipate uh in the next three months two months six months twelve months um then what I'm I'm probably money wasted and I mean that at a practical level yeah and this is where you've got to be just very careful of who you speak to or not or for what purpose. Yeah definitely if if you keep hearing in a reading of somebody what are you worried about and don't doubt yourself.
SPEAKER_03Um I know it's like I'm like I've had it before I've had someone telling me like telling me what I'm supposed to be doing I'm like yeah um I didn't have the confidence at the time with the reader to be like that's actually not even happening in my life but okay keep telling me that that's what's happening like so grateful having you on it's been an absolute it was a hoot I said it was going to be and I my actual abs and my cheeks are sore from smiling. Oh thank you Rodoling no it was an absolute fun it was a lot of fun I think everyone will agree your energy again so genuine so if you want to book a session with TJ I will put all of his links and everything to do that down below in all the information I always finished by saying remember the world doesn't need saving people dude and if we give the people the tools to save themselves we save the world and this is a tool TJ's a tool he's got tools he's actually got two of them that he can share with you to help guide you on your journey so if you are on Spotify please follow. If you are on YouTube please press the subscribe button if you're on Apple Podcasts follow as well but at the end of the day sharing this helps me grow helps me share the message helps TJ grow.
SPEAKER_04So please do that and I shall uh I'll see you next time thank you again bye changing what all that be there and I've been like there's real cars coming in the background