Americas Newest Domestic Threat: Podcasters? | Cabin Fever 10

Episode ten. And we are apparently on somebody's radar now.

The guys break down the White House's brand new 2026 counterterrorism strategy and what it actually says about who the government now considers a threat. Spoiler alert it includes being anti-fascist. From there the conversation goes deep into Kevin O'Leary showing up on Fox News in pink flip flops accusing two grassroots Utah girls of being Chinese Communist Party operatives because they pushed back on his data center expansion. Then Joe Kent update. He resigned, he is under FBI investigation, and nobody in mainstream media is talking about it. And the Epstein conversation that never gets old because the biggest names still never get touched.

Transcript

SPEAKER_05 0:00

Three, two, one. They say money in politics is equivalent to free speech, but all this pandemonium's happening, and then we get citizens who might allow you foreign lobbying. Crazy. These are two giant business enterprises that are designed to get your attention and take as much money and attention from you as possible as advocate for that bowl. He loves being the devil's advocate. He's like, let me be the devil right now. Just for a minute. Are we in a mission to eliminate biases that are untrue in people or inform people so they can shift their biases? Or is the mission not to shift biases at all and really just to bring truth and let people do with it as they can?

SPEAKER_04 0:37

Welcome to the Kevin Fever Podcast episode. We are not on the Epstein list. Hey.

SPEAKER_05 1:04

Welcome to the Cabin Fever Podcast episode. Number 10. Welcome in. My name is Zachary Faust. If you didn't know that was actually gonna be the intro. Have you been practicing that? That was cringe. That was fire, dude. That was fire. Thanks, man. I've been working on that. I think it's gonna be 50-50. In the comments, say if it was fire or cringe. Actual intro. One, two, three. Oh, good. Also in the comments, say if the clap was fire or cringe. There's no debate there, though. Dude, I it gives me a little hit of blood flow every time. Yeah, 100%. If you know what I'm talking about. Tingle. A little tingle there. Mm-hmm. Gives me a little trickle. I think it's really healthy for non-sexual things. Do you be a little bit of a little bit of get going? I didn't say it was sexual. No, no, no. You said a little tingle. Well, come on, come on. We know what we were talking about here. Yeah, you get something that's like nice and it's crisp. It's like ah, I love that. Yeah. Maybe it's not sexual. Maybe it's just like endorphins. Less than a minute in, he's already saying sex. You were the one that was the other day talking about Donald Trump's always talking about sex. Dude, he is horny when he talks. I don't know if I I still you think there's at all times he operates in a horny manner? No, see you're thinking of it in like horny as the way you understand horny. I'm saying his brain is either aroused or frustrated. Like he's not actually trying to have sex, but it's just like that's the operates in that's the chemical reaction going on in his brain. It's not fight or flight, it's aroused or blue ball. It's aroused or angry. That's it, dude. He has no fight or flight. I don't know, man. I think he need more as no, proofy has no fight or flight. The White House correspondence dinner when everyone's freaking out and he was like, What's up, Maloney?

SPEAKER_04 2:44

It's like again, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 2:46

That's great.

SPEAKER_04 2:47

Hey, you good over there?

SPEAKER_05 2:49

What's everybody freaking out about? Is that your card though? Sean, how was Tennessee, brother?

SPEAKER_04 2:56

It was good. Yeah, it was good. Um, yeah, backstory Mother's Day weekend. My mom uh flew me out to Tennessee. Uh me and my sister went over there. And it was a good time, you know. Lots of cows, lots of goats, lots of donkeys, lots of uh hills. Um, you know, it's like those books, like the little tractor who could, you know, he goes up the hills and stuff.

SPEAKER_05 3:15

It's like that. It's like that. Have you never been to the Appalachians before? You've been in the Appalachians, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 3:19

I've hiked it, but it's weird to drive and just be able to see like rolling hills, and I'm like that's kind of weird.

SPEAKER_05 3:26

I saw like Denver looking at Mountains. Yeah. Like, dude, people look at this every time. Yeah, just become accustomed to the wallpaper background their landscape. Because Delaware, we don't have any hills for anyone listening. Not at all. Any hills.

SPEAKER_04 3:40

Like right on the line up north, when you drive past like Wilmington. There's some hills up there. A little bit, very little. But yeah, no, it was cool, man. It was a good time. It's it's weird. I think the area's cool. Obviously, the political climate is crazy right now.

SPEAKER_05 3:54

But um as far as natural stuff goes, it's probably a little calmer there. But oh, just like in that area. I mean less device. I feel like everyone there is kind of same same boat. Yeah, red in the red. A lot of people I met were people that moved from the crazy.

SPEAKER_04 4:10

And like I will say too, fashion-wise, people in Tennessee like do not dress that well. No, no, like a lot. I've never seen more shirts of like you know, those cringy shirts that have a bunch of like words on them, like, oh, I wouldn't I'd rather be drinking and fishing or something like that. I saw so many of those. Or like one of them was like, try to take my gun and you'll blah blah blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_05 4:28

Like those beach boardwalk shirts. Yeah, exactly. It's funny to think that all those people were wearing those in a place where like nobody's trying to do that too.

SPEAKER_04 4:36

Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, who are you talking to?

SPEAKER_05 4:39

They're in the state where they're like, Yeah, man, we're all on board. And he's like, Don't fucking take my gun. And apparently, there's no regulation. You can have you can take it. No one's tried ever. Yeah, yeah. What fantasies are you having? Um, you fucking better not. Well, let's be real. Every is fine. Like, if you're deep bred, that's cool. But one deep red fantasy is one day they're gonna come for my guns.

SPEAKER_04 5:00

Yeah, it always is, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 5:02

I feel the same way that we like romanticize like a zombie apocalypse. Oh my god. How we prepare. Yeah, they're ready for that moment. I did make fun of my parents for this because I grew up on a pony farm in the middle of nowhere in Maryland, and my dad Hell of an intro. My dad completely renovated their house, and one of it was he got all new furniture for their master bedroom. He's doing a tour and he's like, Check this out. Side table, hidden drawer, he's got three guns in there.

SPEAKER_02 5:28

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_05 5:28

And I was like, What? And I said, What's that for? And he goes, Somebody tries to get in here, I'm ready. And I was like, You don't you have one neighbor within a mile. You have a barn that's a hundred feet long and a four-car garage with three tractors. Why are they even coming in the house? Fair. They've already made their money, they've made out before ever entering the home. What scenario do you think a criminal's like, oh, we got two John Deere's and a Kubota RTV? We gotta get in there and see if there's more. Are there three different types of guns? Three different handguns, yeah. Oh, three different handguns. So he was ready if a moment popped off to hand one to you. He just had to fill it up. He couldn't, because the size of the drawer, if it was just one, I know he put one in and he was like, That looks empty. So he went and got another. You know what I mean? You get what I'm saying? There was a visual appeal, yeah. And they all had an extra magazine right next to it. And I was I said, So the people who are usually here and go through your stuff are your nieces who are two, three, four, and six. And he's like, It's got a lock. I was like, All right, you better make sure you keep it locked. Because the only person who's sneaking in your room and going through your stuff right now are toddlers. At least there's one for each of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was the same thing. He's like, anybody ever comes in here? Oh, they had another thing coming. I was like, Why is that what you're imagining in your free time? Retired in the middle of no Jesus coming back, and when somebody comes for my guns, two peak moments are in the house in general. Those are the peak moments in life. I literally I'm I should have been like, here's my house key. I'm never coming over again. I'm now in danger if I visit unexpectedly.

SPEAKER_04 7:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 7:11

Did your parents have guns?

SPEAKER_04 7:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 7:13

Yeah. You were Harrington.

SPEAKER_04 7:15

Yeah, come on, man. What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_05 7:17

Was your pop the same way? Just like multiple guns, rifle case.

SPEAKER_04 7:20

Uh yeah, pretty much. He he wouldn't tell us where he kept some, but I know there's some around the house places.

SPEAKER_05 7:27

Yeah, and I get the rifle thing when you hunt for sure. But there was like one person I went to we were selling their home, and they had this case of weapons in their bedroom. Just like a display case. And there was a couple ARs, shotguns, a little long range, you had a scope on it. You didn't hunt like guns. I don't get it. I think if I had one, I guess I don't get it as much. Like he didn't have a range you could go shoot them on. It wasn't an area like that. I get that a little bit more. Go and shoot a gun, but why have so many guns? You can't use them. You can. You can.

SPEAKER_04 8:05

Yeah. It's expensive too.

SPEAKER_05 8:07

It is expensive. I feel like I can understand. You ever look at the price of a gun vault? What? The volts that people be.

SPEAKER_04 8:13

Oh my god, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 8:17

But it's like a hobby. But it's it's it's it's a I I say safe hobby. I mean, as long as you're, you know, the most dangerous thing about a weapon is the person behind it. It's like driving a car.

SPEAKER_04 8:27

Yeah, it's a yeah.

SPEAKER_05 8:29

The more you know about it, the more you do it. Yeah, and then the more you want to collect cars and get parts of it.

SPEAKER_04 8:36

I don't understand having a bunch of guns, but I do understand the the idea understanding how a gun works, I feel like is interesting.

SPEAKER_05 8:43

It's a really crazy piece of machinery. That's yeah, that's the like from the engineering of it is like, whoa, like the mini explosions of every time you're like it's not.

SPEAKER_04 8:52

What it is is violent, and I think it's scary.

SPEAKER_05 8:53

They made him like what they invented him like 300 years ago. Uh, I think the on the ladder of inventions, radiology is crazy. Yeah, it's in like the last hundred or so years. Let's let's say, what do you want me? Not gun. You want me to look at like AR? No, I just mean guns. The first gun. When was that the ball, right? Gun. That's that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_04 9:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 9:15

Uh the first gun was made in around 1280. Yeah, the ninth century. Guns have been around for 800 years. Wait. What's C E? I know B C and A day. What's C E? Because it appeared in China around 1280 to 120. They probably changed the acronym. But it says gunpowder was invented in the 9th century, 10th century, ancestors known as fire lances or bamboo tubes. Bamboo tubes shooting flames and shrapnel existed. That's terrifying. But the metal barreled hand cannon. So they were literally putting metal barreled hand cannon. A metal barreled hand cannon sounds so much cooler than it got. If they sold it as a metal barreled hand cannon, I would buy. I would get the like, I got a new BHC last week, you'd be like, hell yeah. Oh, then it was called the fire lance. Before metal barrels, the Chinese. That's what they're talking about, the bamboo shoots. So they would put a form of shrapnel and gunpowder in the bottom of a bamboo stick. And then you'd light it and it would shoot out the stick. Whoa. That's cool. That's basically what Roman candles are today. Transitioned into Europe in 1300. This is a segue. I was just saying guns aren't that crazy of an invention because they're so old. Like medical stuff's way newer. Cars are newer. That's a cooler invention.

unknown 10:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 10:36

It's more complex. Modern day weaponry is pretty complex, though. Alright. Well, because like these back that you're only loading one. Like at what point were you able to load multiple rounds into a weapon? Well, that had to be recent, right? Last hundred years or so? No. How when was powered? Yeah, how did it really pop up how was the first when could guns hold one more than one bullet?

SPEAKER_06 11:06

See, this is what we should have you should have talked about on Unsub. They would have had this on top of the dome.

SPEAKER_05 11:12

Late 14th century. Wow. Guns were capable of firing more than one shot without reloading, having existed since the late 14th century, with early multi-shot designs appearing as early as 1339, known as volley guns or organ guns that combined multiple barrels. Are we editing? Did we record another pod after Scott was here? I don't think so. I don't think so. This is this is pod number 10. This is officially number 10. I forget what I've said on these things. I I go to say stuff and I'm like, did I say that already? I can always repeat. Practical repeating firearms evolved from simple multi-barrel designs to complex repeating mechanisms over several centuries centuries, culminating in the popular revolvers in the 1830s. Predates the car, the automobile. Yeah. But collecting cars is a bit more expensive and you can't keep them in a vault. Oh, I'm just saying they're a cooler invention.

SPEAKER_04 12:04

More complex. I'm with you on that.

unknown 12:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 12:06

Alright. Cars are way cooler. We landed the plane.

SPEAKER_05 12:09

Well, and to land our plane, let's land at the White House because there's a new list that we might appear on at some point that I want to uh you can appear there. I'm at work. I just work here. I'm to quote Marshawn Lynch here so I don't get fined. Um Joe. Would you mind breaking down what we have in front of us? Uh the White House announced a new, updated, improved 2026 version of the counter-terrorism strategy. Uh and it is it was written. I I sent it to Zach because there's an alarming portion in it. It's written to include domestic threats. And such domestic threats are I'm trying to find which page those, bro. There's a couple of threats right here. It says we must protect our country from invas invasion, not just from unchecked migration, but from cross-border threats such as terrorism, drugs, espionage, and human trafficking. That sounds about right. The last one, though, we've been trying to get them to help out with for like a while. You still going on about Epstein? It's just funny he included that. He could have left that one out. Well, I think it's very it's so I follow Cash Patel on Twitter. It seems very, dare I say purposeful, the amount of child sex trafficking cases they go after. Because they do go after quite a few. They've they've gone after like five different rings in the past year. It seems very purposeful that they're trying to show that they are indeed going after it, all while ignoring the biggest case. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 13:46

Just check off the box.

SPEAKER_05 13:47

Yeah, they're like, they're like, but leave the rich guys alone. Exactly. Exactly. Let the rich men have it. Well, get the guys on the Disney cruises that are literally pushing children.

SPEAKER_04 13:58

Oh my god, I saw that.

SPEAKER_05 13:59

Yeah. Disgusting. How insane is that? I don't know what that is, but sounds awful. Uh, there was a Disney cruise where they found that several crew members across different boats, it wasn't even just one boat, were involved in child trafficking. Uh and were picking kids up off the boats and stuff like that. There were essays that were reported that were blown uh blown over and brushed under the rug, and apparently they were facilitating CP. The coolest thing about corporate America is that when someone in your company does crimes, the number like every legal company is like, don't ever talk about it. Just yeah, fire them. If someone in your company's doing cries, get as far away from it as possible. Don't let the police know. That's literally American culture in a nutshell. So it says currently we face three major terror groups. Narco terrorists. Okay, yeah, get the fentanyl out. Transnational gangs. Sure. All gangs. Gangs are crazy, especially ones from other countries. Sure. Legacy Islamist terrorist. Legacy Islamist terrorists. What is what does that mean? Like ones that have just been at it for a while? Old school? Maybe it means like the ones that haven't been funded by our friends. Oh, they haven't been warranted into the the BB system. Yeah. Because those are new ones. We've been they've been getting propped up. Got it. I'm just thinking out loud. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 15:19

What is legacy too?

SPEAKER_05 15:19

Is that just one is interesting though? Usually means old school.

SPEAKER_04 15:22

Old and an Islamist. Is that just like super right? Is that a super right like an extremist? Islamist is a religion. Muslim extremist.

SPEAKER_05 15:29

Yeah, well, is yeah, it would be a s it would be associating Islam with being the terrorist. Real quick, a Muslim is a person who practices Islam.

SPEAKER_04 15:38

Right. But and then an Islamist is like an extremist, right?

SPEAKER_05 15:40

Is that kind of like a religious? Yeah, it's being branded as a religious extremist. Islam as the religion. So instead of religious, they could have said religious terrorists, but they said Islam is terrorist. Okay. Yeah. Makes sense?

SPEAKER_04 15:52

Yeah. Essentially. It's almost sound dumb.

SPEAKER_05 15:55

Nice. You're asking for the other people out there. Hell yeah. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Well, I I mean the phrasing is weird. I I don't know why. Again, they could have just put religious terrorists, and that would have made complete sense. But I guess. Then you're getting into even for the Russian nationalism and all the other issues. You don't want to lump them into this group. The brown people. The legacy is crazy too, because you just could have said Islamists. That's the word I don't get. I don't get the legacy side. He's like new ones, we're gonna let him ride. Third is a violent left-wing extremist, including anarchists and anti-fascists. So to be anti-fascist is to be extremist now. Which do you rock with fascism?

SPEAKER_04 16:41

Yes.

unknown 16:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 16:43

That means fascism is the algorithm in your Palantir score. Palantir score goes crazy.

SPEAKER_04 16:50

Yeah, because I feel like that should just be like a common thing of like, yeah, nobody wants to be fascism. Like, I don't understand why that's there.

SPEAKER_05 16:58

Because that's what Antiva is.

unknown 17:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 17:01

Anti-fascism. Which at its core, I guess I don't view as a right or left thing. What makes them extreme though? Is it the masks? Is that why they don't like them? Because they wear masks. Don't they wear like frog outfits? Do you ever get done watching these podcasts and you're like, man, that's a lot. We should go outside and look at some birds.

SPEAKER_04 17:17

It's pretty cool. They got the Tufted Tit mice, you got the Carolina chickadees, you got a Robin. Oh, there's one in my hand. Look, look at this Robin. He likes to eat worms.

SPEAKER_05 17:28

Fly towards that. So if you're looking to start bird watching today, subscribe and go touch grass. It's really good for you. It's good for your soul. Your mom was right. I do like bird watching. No, I think those are just hippies. Okay. The actual so it was like, is he categorizing people that want to like take down the system? Because that's what I view more as like an anarchist. I don't know. I don't know either. He's really bad at defining these things. But somebody else is also like there has to be a group. He didn't put together this document. Like, isn't this wasn't this Joe Kent's division? It's all his employees. Wasn't this Joe Kent's division? So this is the new direction after Joe Kent left, I'm guessing. Yeah. Uh so that I this is like a blueprint that the new guy's gonna have to follow. Yeah. Got it. Yeah. Also, what happened to Joe Kent? Dude quit. The news covered it for two days. He was on two podcasts. No one's brought it up on that. He was on more than that. Where's Joe Kent? Where's Joe Biden? Where's Joe Kent? May 2026. Joe Kent has resigned as a director of national terrorism. Well, we know that. Uh he resigned on my. Oh, that's right. The FBI started investigating him, so he couldn't keep going on podcasts. So he had to let him. Dude, imagine resigning and being like, it was the greatest honor of my life to work for you, and he's like, you're under arrest.

SPEAKER_06 18:51

How do you keep supporting?

SPEAKER_05 18:55

Last tweet was about Jim being a patriot. Alright, so he's tweeting. He's active. Alright, good. He's moving. Good. He's moving. But the thing about Joe is he's he's almost unpolitically talked about at this point because he got defined immediately. The moment he stepped out, he got defined as he's walking against the movement. He's not one of us. He's being paid. He's obviously being influenced by foreign uh entities. Like that's that's just what it seems like. If you have a opinion that doesn't match the narrative of the current party in charge, you're immediately deemed you're not a part of the club. That's the way it's always been. But now in this administration, they're saying you're a terrorist.

SPEAKER_04 19:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 19:39

You're just you're a terrorist. If you don't like fascism, which again, I don't get how that's left-leaning. I I maybe that's a left-leaning belief being anti-fascist, but it would seem like nobody would want to live under a fascist regime.

unknown 19:56

I was gonna say.

SPEAKER_05 19:57

I I don't think that's I don't think that's a red versus blue thing personally. And what is violent left-wing extremists? Is he getting into some verbiage here to try to lump in like the transgender shooters? Like, what's a left-wing violent extremist?

SPEAKER_04 20:12

I mean, that sounds like it. Like it sounds like he would be referring to.

SPEAKER_05 20:15

Yeah, who are we referring to here? Is this like the people that are appearing at the congressional dinners? Because I can understand, I don't want gun violence either, but again, why does it gotta be left wing? Why can't we just say violent extremists? Take a break here. Can you go to the reaction chat? Yeah, did you see the video about Kevin O'Leary saying that this? Yeah, look at that. Yeah, so I actually reached out to these people. I said they're awesome. This is funny. Stop saying this is funny. But you brought up how as soon as he stepped out, they're like, Oh, he's being paid, he's a spy, he's something step out against the message. It's crazy because it's not even in the political party. Kevin O'Leary in his data center backlash accused this organization that was like trying to fight the data center of being a paid propagandist organization from China. Yep. And he was like, If you're real, you need to come out and prove you're real. So these girls made this video, like, yeah, we're two girls doing grassroots political campaigns in Utah. We're not paid by China, really wish you were. But his first, their first instinct is to they try to tell people, oh, this is foreign governments interfering with our ever. Why is everything in their mind? They're the conspiracy theorists. Right? They tell the right-wing boomer they're the conspiracy theorists. They're all like uh all these YouTubers, they're conspiracy theorists, they're liars, they don't know what's going on. As soon as people are like, Yeah, the data center's bad. Kevin O'Leary has a new conspiracy theory that China has placed an organization to fight him using in his expansion of his real estate empire. Yeah, let's play this clip. This was actually chopped up by Elevate. Also, if you're a if you're an audio listener, check out this video. It's awesome because Kevin O'Leary is sitting in front of its. TV with a fake blurry background wearing pink flip-flops with his suit. And the branding, before we play it, the branding is purposeful. This is definitely the Fox go-to playbook. You're getting opposition. You blame some form of extremist group. You blame that party's getting paid. He's falling right into it. But again, the people he's blaming are just normal everyday people.

SPEAKER_03 22:24

So strategy is also a cell operating inside of Utah. Gabby Fidley said, Gabby, what are you doing? And why who's paying you?

SPEAKER_01 22:31

Well Hi, hello. It's me, Gabby Fidley. What am I doing? Apparently, we've reached the part of the Stratos Data Center journey where Kevin deliberately goes on national Fox News to accuse us of being uh spells for the Chinese Communist Party.

SPEAKER_03 22:46

Yeah, because at the end of the day, who would want us to stop building our electrical grid? Which adversary would want that? There's only one. It's China. So what I think is happening, and I got my guys to go a deep dig into the IP addresses, and here's what we found out. This is fascinating. We found two cells inside of Utah.

SPEAKER_05 23:03

Elevate Those words right there of we got our team to dig into the IP addresses. Every old head that doesn't know how to restart their router is being like, oh shit, this is crazy. They are like, these guys went deep. Just a crew of people with no technical background. So they're like, our team, is your team the FBS? Who's your team? Or is it just a guy trained on computers?

SPEAKER_03 23:31

Strategies. Gabby Finlison. Gabby, what are you doing? And why who's paying you? So what I'm doing right now is after getting this data, I'm calling out Gabby, operating in Utah.

SPEAKER_01 23:40

So hi Kevin, we are Elevate Strategies. Um, this is Utah. You might not know it because you're from Canada. This is where we live. But before we get into anything too serious, this is the very scary, very intimidating man that is threatening us.

SPEAKER_05 23:52

We are not taking the flash a zoom of his feet in pink flip-flops sitting in the chair. And the wires everywhere. Oh my god. Don't say anything about wires everywhere, bro. My issue is he's clear. Don't say wires could be better. My issue is he's clearly in an office. Why isn't he wearing shoes? I guess you don't have to. Who's wearing flip-flops to work? That's a good point. It's not necessarily why is he doing it while he's shooting? Why is he wearing them at all? We're in an office somewhere. Like this is a media. And here's the thing about the toes all the way. Best case scenario. Let's assume that. Let's assume this is his house and he's doing it from home. Motherfucker, buy some slippers. Yeah. You can afford the nicest moccasins out there. You got pink flip-flops on. There's something really suspicious about that behavior in mobs. I think there's a piece of it where it's like he doesn't have to. Rich people think the fact that they're rich solves the problem. Like I think that he doesn't think that he has to do anything else. He can wear some freaking flip-flops, jump on Fox, give the script, and convince the amount of people that need to be convinced. Is this his form of a casual flex? Is to wear change flip flops. Yes. That he knows I can get on Fox in pink flip-flops and tell these people what needs to be said in order for me to get my data center. I'm going to blame China and them not wanting us to improve our data or our power grid as the reason. And that's why I'm going to be able to build a data center that's half the size of Salt Lake City. Yeah. Half the size of Salt Lake City. Bring no jobs, improve the infrastructure minimally to support an AI regime of other billionaires. China even cares. I don't think China gives a shit. China doesn't give a fuck. I think honestly that's a crazy take. I don't think China gives a damn care about what we're doing. That's a crazy take for some. Maybe it may be wrong. Maybe wrong. Maybe maybe they're meeting on us every day.

SPEAKER_04 25:58

They're doing their own thing, man.

SPEAKER_05 25:59

But I would say, man, they're they even came out and said that economically they're trying to be to themselves. They don't want to delve into all of it. It's interesting. If you're China, I think you do want all these data centers to go up. You're like, yes, bleed all of your local communities drive water and electricity. Yes. Drive inflation in your economy to record highs. Keep making it worse. Honestly. You know, the the Chinese sales, if they were active, are probably backing the data center right now. Mmm. That's a hot take. Kevin shouldn't be calling shit. He should be like, guys, can you help me out here? This is in your best interest, too.

SPEAKER_06 26:40

Help me make more money by making more Americans impoverished.

SPEAKER_05 26:44

They're gonna be more dependent on your cheap, shitty ass manufacturing. Please come help me. Honestly. We've talked about on our our own show, on this show, like China's licking their lips watching what's been happening for the last couple years. Really, since COVID, and how we how we reacted completely different than they did, we recovered completely differently than they did. And of course, our economies are just completely different structures. Not saying one's better than the other, but our capitalistic system is bleeding dry up to the top. Well, for the billionaires, and and this is gonna continue to destabilize like the the the haves and the have nots. Yeah. And the deeper that wedge is driven in through our society, the more potential there is for China and others to come in and be like, all right, you've been you've had this world domination thing for a little bit, our turn. Or maybe they just literally don't care.

SPEAKER_02 27:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 27:39

But either whether they don't care or whether they want us to stabilize, you bring up a great point. They'd probably just be quiet. Yeah. Or push the other. I think I just gave them a good idea. I shouldn't have said that takeout loud. We should continue. I think just to activate the Chinese. Yeah, you you put them onto us. We gotta keep going. We're not, we're not getting paid.

SPEAKER_01 27:58

The criticism of anyone who is wearing flip-flops and a suit on national television. You know, it's not every day you get called out by first and last name on Fox News by a Canadian billionaire trying to ruin my state, but here we are. Kevin, are you okay? After sitting with this for a moment, we decided to take it as a compliment because, first of all, how are these men scared of us? What are we talking about?

SPEAKER_03 28:22

I want a forensic thought of who's funding their platforms. Who is it? So these are proxies for the Chinese government, is my argument. And if they're not, because I want them to be able to defend their name to Gabby, come out, come out wherever you are.

SPEAKER_01 28:33

Okay, Kevin, go ahead. Mr. Wonderful's Nancy Drew, little detective agency.

SPEAKER_05 28:38

Dude, they eat him up. They're eaten up. So this is the definition of other terrorism threats in America. Donald Trump says Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson, named possible domestic terrorists by the Trump administration, both are former MAGA supporters who now oppose Trump. Discontinues this administration's strength of retribution.

SPEAKER_06 29:03

I'm so sorry. Sebastian Gorka is the new counter-terrorism head.

SPEAKER_04 29:09

I thought they were on Trump's side.

SPEAKER_06 29:11

Sebastian? Gorka. G-O-R-K-A. You don't know who this guy is? Okay, okay. Okay. He's literally Oh my god. He was a European right-winger who like has been he's like a Oh, but he hates the new counter-terrorism.

SPEAKER_05 29:33

Last week Trump administration released the official 2026 United States counter-terrorism strategy, which was we just released. Um without having to pay for it. Well, the quote up here says the policy is unfocused, run by amateurs, and concerned more with the president's many grievances than the security of the United States. It looks like he's the one writing it. It looks like he's quoting this guy. I don't know, because I'm not gonna buy it to write to get it. I don't think that's the case.

SPEAKER_04 30:00

I think that's just the article. Let me see. Let's see.

SPEAKER_05 30:05

Let's see, like Trump Gorka, Trump hasn't met Iran timeline because US is too effective. Too good. No, he's literally like a lad, he's a Fox News shill. Like he's he's a right, he's a right wing extremist and has been his whole life. His profile picture is Trump after the assassination attempts. He's crazy. It's it's just it's showing because we went from Joe Ken. Ah, dude, get off his wiener.

SPEAKER_04 30:31

What the heck?

SPEAKER_05 30:32

I said nothing of the sort. Okay, uh says yesterday a senior consultant terror counter-terrorism official flagged Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes when asked whether Washington, DC is keeping tabs on right-wing extremism. It's disgraceable, disgraceful for Sebastian Gorka, a foreign-born PhD academic, to suggest that the two of the most popular and consequential figures in American politics are extremists. Uh and then he came back saying, I said nothing of the sort. I stated that Tucker and Fuentes should not be counted within the conservative tent, given that one says Sharia Law is wonderful and the other says he is a Democrat just last week. But why are we counting any political pundit, like a person who sits in front of a microphone as a terrorist? This is the game they play. An official in the organization because if speaking out against the administration as extremism, like, welcome to the show. That's the thing. They're saying that someone in the counterterror counterterrorism official flagged them. They're saying that that was happened in the government system. And then Sebastian Gorka goes, I never said that.

SPEAKER_06 31:41

Yeah, he didn't say you said that.

SPEAKER_05 31:42

He just said someone did it and you're in charge, bro. And then they do this thing where his whole counter is just like, oh, I'm gonna call them names and make fun of them. It's not real work, it's not real intelligence, it's not real counter-terrorism. This Gork, he's crazy. If you go back, he's got wild stuff. He says, I don't see Bigfoot obsessed podcasters or clickbait merchants. Do you? So is he referencing Tucker and Nick? Fuentes and is Tucker a big Bigfoot guy? No, he's the diminutive clickbait merchant. Is Nick Fuentes a Bigfoot guy? Maybe. I just don't get the Bigfoot obsessed podcasters.

SPEAKER_04 32:19

Anyway.

SPEAKER_05 32:20

But yeah, the the counter-terrorism thing's crazy. There's specific language I was tell say too. The language that they want to identify and neutralize. Neutralize is crazy. That seems the definition for that is open to legal interpretation. But then also just to say left-wing extremists, and then go back to the counter-terrorism, because I wanted to point out that paragraph later, too. When you scroll down, I think we have to might have to type it in again to see where it was. Oh, it's up there.

SPEAKER_04 32:52

I think I just up a little bit. Is that right there? Yeah, in addition, yeah, right there.

SPEAKER_05 32:57

Yeah, that sentence. So there's a quote that says in addition to cartels and Islamist terror groups, our national counter-terrorism activities will also prioritize the rapid identification and neutralization of violent secular political groups whose ideology is anti-American, which I don't know if you've heard Trump has said the entire Democratic Party is anti-American 150 times. Radically pro-transgender, also has said that about the Democratic Party in general, and anarchist. So they want to rapidly identify and neutralize peoples whose ideology is anti-American, pro-trans, or anarchy. I want to stick up for the anarchists out there that feel like they fall into that category. I think a lot of the people that are pushing for, hey, why don't we have some form of revolution? A lot of times are the people that love the country very strongly. Yeah. And just simply want it to get back to the city. They tried to do it like five years ago. They just weren't left wing, so it was okay. Ah, crazy take. I hear you. The we talked about this earlier. The entire MAGA base is based around getting rid of the deep state, which I rock with heavy. Drain the swamp. Drain the swamp. I rock with that heavy. Most of the MAGA constituents agree with getting rid of the scum, the elitist orchestrating the whole system type people. Like I agree with that. But we're clearly now the whole definition of what being MAGA changed 18 times between now and then. And now we're going after anything that is left leaning, it seems, as being anti-American. That's the thing. It's like a lot of the people who are angry at the prices, a lot of the people that are angry at this war that we're doing, just want us to be more homebound. Want us to be more just America. Maybe I'm wrong there, but that's the way I view it. Yeah. I was gonna say, is there not a kind of funny slap of irony that Sebastian Gorka, the guy in charge of this document, called Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson like clickbait merchants and crazy podcasters, but then they also include Charlie Kirk as a reason why they're updating these policies? Where's where's Charlie Kirk used? The sentence above it. It says uh as real threats, including the assassination of Charlie Kirk by a radical who espoused extreme transgender. That's a part of the reason they're using for justifying this upholding, Sean.

SPEAKER_04 35:20

Americans have witnessed the politically motivated killings of Christians and conservatives committed by violent left-wing extremists, including the assassination of Charlie Kirk by a radical who espoused extreme transgender ideologies.

SPEAKER_05 35:34

By the way, Tyler Robinson was pretty anti-Trump by the comments that were able to be found. Yeah. By the time that the shooting took place. He was very pro at one point. Yeah, yeah. But the comments they were able to find, he's he was not a super. It was just funny that in that defense of set talking about Nick Fuentes, he just like talked about how like podcasters are nothing. But then uses a podcast. But then they're like, this podcaster's cool though. We should change the rules because he died. What is it? Podcasters are scum? Or we should make laws for their safety. Which is it? Like in this, it'll talk about gangs and talks about like Al-Qaeda and financial and cybersecurity threats. Like I get all that, but why are we why like whether cartels, jihadists, or left-wing radicals? Why is a Tucker Carlson, like him or not, getting labeled a terrorist? That's crazy. That's crazy. Because then anybody could get labeled a terrorist based off an opinion. And this is coming from the party that is so pro, as am I, free speech. But then we start to speak not even up against it, just saying, hey, have we thought about maybe doing this a different way? Have we have we ever thought to like when we say a stat that it should be fact-checked first and it shouldn't be taken at point-blank value? Like we just went over on the pod earlier when he was talking about there's an 85% support rate of what I'm doing in Iran right now, you stupid idiot reporter. But the number he's using was from a Pew survey taken a month and a half ago. The month is a month and a half, or the war is a month and a half older than when that survey was done. And that 85% is from 50-year-old Republicans. The entire group, it was 67% are against. So, like who's actually the quote unquote person causing chaos other than maybe the people who are saying things that aren't true? And then the people who want to say, actually, that's not true, it actually exists, are the ones being labeled as terrorists. You know what it is? Yeah, I don't know, you're younger, but I don't you've I think probably kept more normal social circles. Ever have like a toxic couple that you know, and they break up and they're like just like both talking shit on each other all the time, and you're like six months ago, you guys were like, We're getting married. Actually, I do know so and then they just like go around talking wild shit to all their friends, and then they're it like you like hear from the girl and she's like oh he blah blah blah blah blah and then you go see him, she's like, She's wooing in my life, she's terrorizing me. It's the same logic. Trump Carlson had a breakup, they're both talking wild shit, and they're like, Leave me alone. Do you think that's the lone difference, though? Is like them just not supporting Trump anymore? It's all it seems to be. They're literally just arguing, like they were in cahoots, they were canoodling, they were loving, texting back and forth at night. Now all of a sudden they can't text no more. Psychologically, to me, it's the exact same scenario. One was just about making millions of dollars and controlling public lives, the other one was like just trying to have sex. I like this better than your horny seeing he threw sex in there at the end. I was about to say, I like this better than the horny Trump. That's what the couple was doing. Because you know, that's why you date, you want to get together. Right. That doesn't work out. No, yeah, I get that. It has been a breakup, but there's gonna be people who were like, why did the breakup happen? And I think imagine if that couple could write a document that made it legal language that their ex was a terrorist, they'd probably try to do it.

unknown 39:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 39:13

Yeah, imagine if that that lady who was like, he's such a piece of shit. If she could write into law that he was a terrorist, do it. My ex-girlfriend is two weeks away from developing a nuclear weapon to kick her out, right? Yes. Samantha is two weeks away. Is that not what's exactly happening? Trump's like, oh, he's a terrorist. He's being mean to me because we're not friends anymore. It's like what is the definition of American? I guess is where my brain gets like locked into when we're talking about anti-American speak. I don't hear these people talking anti-American. By the way, I'm no, as you guys know, I'm no Nick Fuentes apologist by any way, shape, or form. I you do think he's funny though, right? He's funny, yeah, 100%. Trump's funny. I thought I was baiting him, and he just said, Yeah, no, he's no, people can be funny for sure. But the takes and the misogyny and uh racism, and there's not a lot of good I pick out of it. But again, what's a terrorist? Is he a terrorist? He was there on January 6th. He was there with a megaphone on January 6th, and he wasn't able to do it a second. Yeah, maybe it's just delayed paperwork finally catching up. I'm sure that's what it was.

SPEAKER_04 40:27

What did he say into the the speakerphone? He said something.

SPEAKER_05 40:30

Said the the building is ours. Yeah, yeah. He was he was directly talking about the building is ours there in a suit and tie. Like that's crazy. In the name of Trump. And there's a lot of people, myself included, be like, oh, that's some Fed type stuff that we're doing here, but now he's labeled a terrorist by the same people. Makes me think more like what Joe's saying. It's also breakup. It's also crazy because there's so much stuff out there that like delegitimizes Fuentes as a voice to like the overwhelming majority of Americans, but they just why are they? Yeah, and I probably don't know 85% of his takes. I honestly like what makes the headline. But like I don't know a ton of his takes, but you showed that old InfoWars clip of Kanye wearing the mask, and Nick Fuentes was there. I was like, this is an insane thing to have ever been a part of.

SPEAKER_02 41:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 41:15

Like if this lived on the internet of me, I'd be like, that was a really bad day for me. I wish I hadn't done that. He's got a lot of crap out there. They just can't. Why are they so obsessed with it? It was like what we talked about with Democrats. They're like so obsessed with Tasan Piker being too far left that they're making him more popular. Yeah. Just stop bringing him up. Or Mam Dani. A lot of his popularity was based off opposition. And he's doing great things, by the way. A lot of the stuff he's talked about. Yeah, now his popularity is based on him actually doing shit. Kind of showing that they aren't really doing anything and you can get stuff done. Yep. He had the higher tax actually go through on billionaires. And guess what? A bunch of billionaires didn't just up and leave. He actually was able to accumulate the tax money, apparently, which is crazy. And we'll see where the tax money goes to. Like see if actual change happens. I think when we're talking anti-American, is again what's the definition of America or American? If he's improving the infrastructure of the greatest city in America, apparently, New York City, one of the largest economies, larger than most countries' economies, New York City. If he's improving that with quote unquote anti-American strategy, what's American if that's actually bettering society? What's American? That's the whole thing. They say there's an American the fact that we could talk about this and be free about it. Not anymore. It's like legal stuff, though. It doesn't matter what it means until you're in court. Until there's a lawsuit. Or until there's a new counter-terrorism doc that's redefining it altogether. Alright. Until this is in court being reviewed by a judge, it's you can say whatever you want. What's anti-American? I would say that that's open to interpretation. You want to deliberate stabilize the American country. I would flip it. What's patriotism? I would say undying support of the country.

SPEAKER_04 43:04

Maybe, maybe not patriotism.

SPEAKER_05 43:05

I guess what is American? There's a definition for patriotism. I'm sure. But that might have been it. He and they might have had an argument about that where he was like, say anti-American. They're like, Well, do you mean anti-patriotic? And he was like, No, I mean anti-American. It's just because it's not, it's deliberately broad and open to interpretation, so they can go after whoever they want, their enemies persecute whoever they want until it's in court, and the court shuts it down. Did the same thing with the tariffs. It's not illegal until a court sees it. You can do whatever you want until it's in court. He knows that. He's made a career in real estate off of abusing the system of the law. That's why the anti-American thing, like you could talk about all day. It doesn't matter. They they keep it broad on purpose. Well, just like when he brought up, it was, I think, in a debate with him and Hillary initially where he talked about the tax code. He was like, Yeah. Tax code lets me not have to pay taxes. It's built that way.

SPEAKER_04 43:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 43:54

Brings it up, but then nothing actually changes. Yeah. It's like it's red. And it's blue, playing that same game of this side's anti-American, that side's anti-American. It's like what happened to conversation and just figuring out what's best for the normal everyday citizen of the country being American. It seems like being American is being pro-Kevin O'Leary. And I'm sorry, I'm not pro-Kevin O'Leary. I like the show. Shark Tank's fun, but I'm not pro data centers leaking out all the nature from an area. I'm not pro-housing industry weaning out all the Gen Z from being able to own a property. I'm not pro, like, I'm not pro a bunch of random people coming to the country that shouldn't be here that maybe are criminals. I'm not pro that either. Like, I think there's so many things that are across different lines of red versus blue that keep people from having conversations. Because like, I can't talk to you about this because you don't believe in this. So we just can't talk. We can't agree. And it locks us in these places where we argue with each other. And then the other side deems the other a terrorist, and now they can't talk. Because like at this point, could Tucker Carlson get arrested? Could he actually be like tried for being well you can because until a court decides, you can do whatever you want. But yeah, so could he be physically like actually arrested off of this definition and then try to find a way to investigate and arrest them for any laws they can find? So it's all open to interpretation. It's just about getting people in court. That just seems wild to me. You need to go back space. Have you ever watched like court? Have you ever watched getting them there is a crazy thing to do? Have you ever watched First Amendment audit videos? First Amendment, oh yeah, I've seen those. I've seen those. That's basically in a nutshell, just a tiny microcosm of how you can game the court system and how they could do that with Tucker Carlson if they want. They probably won't, but we see it all the time. Nancy Mace was like, Oh, we're I'm subpoenaing to interview Howard Lutnick. Three days later, she was under an ethics investigation. Correct. By the Department of Homeland Security. Yeah, and where did that go? Nowhere. Yeah, then how does it until a judge or somebody with the power says this isn't legit? First Amendment audit, the police arrest people and violate their First Amendment rights all the time. It's not like they're able to and allowed to do it until a court says you are wrong, and then all they do is they just pay money as a settlement. They go, Oh, our bad. Well, it's the same thing with stock traders in Congress. If they don't submit a certain document disclosing their stocks, they get like a $200 fine. Exactly. And they just pay the fine. Or like it would be a much larger discussion. But what bear does with the pesticides, instead of paying billions of dollars of payouts for giving people cancer on a product that isn't deemed to be able to cause cancer, instead of paying up billions, they're just paying millions to politicians to make sure that they can't get sued. Oh gosh, I have a crazy, crazy theory that I've been playing around with. I want to bring up cook. Citizens United ruined NASCAR. Sponsorships.

SPEAKER_06 46:57

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_05 46:58

NASCAR runs off of sponsorships.

SPEAKER_06 47:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 47:01

And in its golden era in the 70s, 80s, and 90s, it was sponsored by commercial like huge companies that were like consumer businesses. Coca-Cola, Pepsi, Home Depot, Pizza Hut, Home Depot, Lowe's. The Tony Stewart car.

SPEAKER_06 47:17

Yes. It was a way they had all this money.

SPEAKER_05 47:19

Bloodwise. They had all this money to spend on sponsorships. And then in 2010, all of those super mega companies were now allowed to spend unlimited money on lobbying. Now all the NASCAR sponsorships are like AI companies, like defense contractors are the ones doing it now. And it basically defense contractors sponsoring NASCAR racers? Yes. Which ones? Yes. There's two of a couple of them that are in like the top five for the Israeli war. What the hell? Not even kidding. Logged Raytheon? It's slowly become like all these industrial and commercial companies that aren't consumer-based or advertising. And since 20 like 12, the sports greatly declined. This is a theory I'm making up purely based on correlation. But all these big consumer companies who have greatly increased Andorl, yup, is a sponsor of one.

unknown 48:11

What the heck?

SPEAKER_05 48:12

Andoral Industry. Defense Unicorns sponsors and the official defense partner of NASCAR. Yeah. What does that even mean? What? Dude, we're gonna have a Palantir car so soon. But also think about where these companies want support and have their best support.

SPEAKER_04 48:33

Think about the audience for an ASCAR! Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 48:48

But if you had to do like sponsorships to increase your profits because you needed to increase customers, you would diversify your sponsorship portfolio. If now you can increase your profits by lobbying Congress to change laws.

SPEAKER_06 49:01

Which are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_05 49:03

The NASCAR theory.

SPEAKER_06 49:05

What are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_05 49:06

It's like the Disney theory. This is the this is my deepest conspiracy theory.

SPEAKER_04 49:10

It makes sense though.

SPEAKER_05 49:12

Well, I don't watch enough NASCAR, I guess, to know the see the difference. You do, but like you just don't see those big massive sponsorships anymore of these normal everyday companies that people are used to. Because I do remember like Coca-Cola, Depot, like Monsters there. Who's Jeff Gordon sponsored by? The Rainbow Car. DuPont. DuPont, okay. Yeah. Big car company. Yeah. And even like even that, like, do you not see as many automotive companies sponsoring the cars themselves? I mean, Dodge and Ram were out for a while. Ram just got back in only in trucks, though. Like they left completely. But like Napa, do they sponsor any cars? Like those, those because I can imagine that's a great sell. Like they do. My car driver will be a few years. A lot of them do party parts. So Napa sponsors one car for like nine races out of the year. Oh, you can do like a couple of things. They used to have all of them do that now. Really? No one has a set year-round sponsor anymore at this point. No. Yeah. So that I feel like that kind of loses a little bit of luster because like I remember that age of NASCAR as like the Home Depot car.

SPEAKER_04 50:12

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 50:12

The Bud Light car. So the most popular driver NASCAR right now is sponsored by like eight different companies. He has eight different schemes throughout the year. Really? Yeah. And Napa's one of them. That has to suck as a follower, right? You don't get the consistent jersey to wear. It's worse for sure. It's like if my favorite NBA player had a different colored jersey every game. That's weird. I would love to see the overlap between like sponsorship spending and lobbying spending after citizens. You make a weird little graph. I guarantee you there's an influx. Claude's gonna be like, common sense just tells me they're not sponsoring as much shit anymore. That's interesting. Guys, do you know how much money DraftKings is gonna do in revenue this year? Which is how much money they're just going to take from betters? How much? 6.6 billion. Billion? Yeah. Oh my god. Double's advocate. That's good money. That's my line. Projected revenue. And the other staggering part about that, you can't use DraftKings in every state. You can't use it in Delaware. Not even the whole country. Yeah, you can't use it in Delaware. I had these RPP and lose my money. Whoa. And they're not even in every state. Sign me up. Thanks, Kevin Hart. All right. So let's finish on something that has everything. No, it has everything to do with this. Has everything to do with this. Less NASCAR. But the state we're going to talk about, probably a high conglomeration of NASCAR following. It kind of ruined other sports too. A lot of sponsors have gone down. Even NFL and baseball, it's all sports betting apps now. Yes. Used to have like the official pizza company, the official oil, the if of like Penn's oil was sponsoring baseball. Right. Because it was a place to go to get seen by a lot of people. And that's DraftKings. And old DraftKings. Gelshi Gel Shi. It ruined all sports. Speaking of ruining sports, one of the greatest sports of American history is the election. Oh God. Being able to choose your representative who's going to be the voice for you in your jurisdiction. Kentucky has a vote coming up for the primary seat for the Republican seat within Congress for them. Do you know who is currently running against another Republican in the primary race that might indeed lose in the coming weeks? His name is Thomas Massey. Thomas Massey. Joe's having a quick cry. Thomas Massey, I mean, I've met him in person. I've met a few Congresspeople in person. He's a down-to-earth guy. I gotta admit, at the very least, that very down-to-earth guy. You can have a conversation with him. Um a couple of those people for sure, they're in it for the clips, and they're gonna turn off the moment the camera's off. Tom doesn't seem like that much of that guy. There are records being set to make sure he does not keep his congressional seat. Let me read you some of these stats. So there's currently a run in Kentucky for the Republican seat for his position within Congress, and it is now the most expensive US primary in American history. There's been $25.6 million spent on Thomas Massey losing this election. Uh, well, actually, that's a total number. 19.4 of that 25.6 million is being spent for him to lose this election. So it says that the Republican Jewish coalition has spent over $4 million in ads. The Super PAC United Democracy Project has put up another $2.6 million. The MAGA for Kentucky Super PAC has put up another point uh $4.5 million, and APAC themselves over $3 million. Between Miriam Adelson and others, a total of $14.3 million is being put forth against Thomas Massey to alleviate him from his position in Congress. Now, Massey is somebody who's come out against a lot. He has come out against Epstein. He created the Epstein Transparency Act. He has come out against Big Pharma, creating changes within the big food farm bill that allowed for pesticides to go unlabeled from causing cancer. He has also stuck his foot out across the bipartisan lines against the big beautiful bill, uh failing there, but ultimately pushing for that omnibus bill to not be nearly as omnibusy. He's pushed for no Israel money to go out, no Ukraine money to go out, no domestic or to keep money domestic. And he has made himself a freedom score, which is coming from the freedom freedomindex.us. He has a he has a 99% freedom score. Wow. And according to the scorecard rating created by Heritage Actions, which might have to do with the Heritage Foundation. Heritage Action. What's the other 1% doing? Heritage Action gave him a 96% score. He has an A plus on Heritage Foundation's project 2025, right? Yes. Yeah. And on Integrity Index, he has an A plus. Oh, that's good. So across pretty much all the political integrity index with Nico. Yep. So pretty much across everything, he has an incredibly high score, and he is now being pushed out of his position systematically with paid money ads. A lot of them are AI slop ads. I want to bring up one of them here in a second that we can actually look at, showing like him and AOC and like this weird thruple scenario. Like he's cheating on the Republican Party. And he is one of 15 lawmakers that has been targeted by APAC and Republican groups to ensure that when it comes time for, and this is the important part, in these very red-leaning states, that the independently leaning Republicans are subbed out for a quote unquote. And this is a quote from Donald Trump stating he wants a warm body to replace the likes of Tom Massey and others that are stepping out against the political lines. Just a warm body. That's all we need. Just anyone. Yeah, no one with any intellect, no one with any, you know, Americanism. Uh they just want a warm body. Um let me bring up this ad real quick. Let's see. Axios, AI, slop, Thomas, Max. That's allegedly. Let's see if we can go on X and find it. If Google fails, just try X. That actually sounds like a drug recommendation. Guys, don't do this.

SPEAKER_00 57:05

Thomas Messi caught in a thropple in Washington. He's cheating with the squad on the America first movement. Messi voted with the squad against Trump's tax cuts. Messi voted with the squad against finishing Trump's wall. He voted with them against hiring new border agents. This is worse than adultery. It's a complete and total betrayal of President Trump and Kentucky conservatives. On May 19th, fire Thomas Messi. Mega Kentucky is responsible for the content of this advertisement.

SPEAKER_05 57:35

Thomas, there's a lot to unpack in there.

SPEAKER_00 57:38

The AI voice going, uh, that's worse than adultery.

SPEAKER_05 57:44

That's fucking comedy. Before deep diving this, I want to be clear. As you're listening to this, I'm in Kentucky. Not at this exact moment, but by the time this gets put out, I will be in Kentucky with Tiffany Seancey, James Lee, quite a few other creators to help get young voters out. Because this ad and all the money that is circulating into this campaign is targeted after boomers with AI slop ads and imagery. And the even the messaging, we're framing this as adultery, which is the one thing, by the way, that all American boomers can kind of get behind hating. Adultery. You know what though? Cheating. I'm gonna call them out. Can they get behind it? Because you know the phrase, oh, that must be the mailman's baby. Their generation made that a normal thing, bro. Their generation made women so horny, anyone who should have during the house of the day might get it. The pool boy. Oh the milk guy. Do they really care about adultery? Yeah, you know the pool pool in the gardener? That's them. They started that. They're all whores. All of these AI-generated images of him hanging with AOC, and I don't know who he's hanging out with here. Ilan Amar. The squad. Yeah, that was the other thing. The squad. They're making this an us versus them. Is Rashida Talib still in office, or did they get her out? Because she was the other part of the squad. I remember. I'm not aware. Okay. Cheating with the squad. Cheating on American first with the squad. First movement.

SPEAKER_00 59:22

Messi voted with the squad against Trump's text.

SPEAKER_05 59:24

They do look like more fun than the other old head Republicans he'd have to hang out with. I'm just gonna say that's fair. Like if you're an old white dude and you can hang out with 50 other old white dudes or two young women of color, fair take. Voted against uh with the squad against finishing Trump's law. He voted with them against hiring Trump. They're walking into some hotel, all holding hands, by the way. I actually think this is a hype video for him. Picked up against hiring new border agents. Do not disturb on the uh door. Again, we're in a hotel having like an affair. It's a complete and total betrayal of President Trump. This has nothing to do with politics. It's everything to do with he doesn't like Trump, so you should hate him. And then even finishes with this instead of going out and voting for who's who's even the other guy's name. What's the other guy's name? No, it says back Trump endorsed, and then real small says the guy's name. Where's where's it at? His opponent shows up at the end for 1.2 seconds. One split second. I don't even know the name of the guy. Yeah, he's gonna show him at the end. Shows him at the very end. And notice it doesn't say vote for that guy. Kentucky conservatives on May 19th. Fire. Fire Thomas Massey. The only thing I hope, I hope there's a lot. I hope he loses. And this is paid for by one of the people we mentioned, MAGA Kentucky. I hope he loses, and I hope we revisit and we get back into the court system. Massey loses. Here's why. Because the only logical next step is to make this illegal. The only next step is to challenge it. It's already illegal. That's the thing. AI It's not though. It is. It's a literal law. You cannot use AI. I get it. They're doing it. No, no, no. Politicians can't. Can't packs? No. There is no slanderous AI ads allowed in political campaign advertising. It's already a law. It was put forth like a year ago. You can't use AI to slander your opponent. Well, so then can he sue the super PEC? I don't know. See, that's what I need. I need I need an organization to lose. But I think is regardless of what's going to happen, they're just like, let's speed run this for three weeks, face the repercussions that come from it, but let's just get massive out. And so they're spending money on the only thing they know that's going to pass, which is making it electricity. Like we can break all the laws because we have the money as long as we win. And as long as we get to the point where again, most people are thinking midterms. That's the thing about our voting system that kind of sucks, is because what's happening here on May 19th, which again, I'm going to be there for, and others are going to be there pushing young voters to go out. Because if you look at conservative voters, 80% under the age of 40 rock with Thomas Massey. You go above that 40-year-old line and it starts getting weird. So they're making sure they're focusing the audience they can convince quickly. Because they don't want people that deep dive, they don't want people that are on the Twitter spheres or looking at other podcasters to get opinions or watching full scope videos. They just want people to watch an ad, fire massey. All right, I'm gonna go support Trump and fire Massey. I don't even know why I'm doing it. But it's clear they're going after the old head, so we're gonna try to get the young people out. Well, there the whole thing is like, look at him agreeing with brown people. Yeah. That's kind of the whole head. That one woman had a headpiece. Yeah. She's got something covering her hair. She's not American. If you weren't racist, this video actually makes Thomas Massey look really cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:48

This is having a good time.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:49

A deep state Republican from the Appalachian region is cool with hip young women. Just the fact that he the I think it says a lot that the only way you can properly defame him is by creating AI ads. And now they got this weird sexual assault thing that's apparently coming out that's extremely weird, extremely timely. I hate it. I hate that big APAC money is gonna come and unseat one of the most logical at the very least, if any logic exists. How are the early polls? Is he down? He was initially up 20% back in February. Now he is down.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:30

Oh man.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:31

Now he is set to lose. That's why at this exact moment, all after millions got two weeks ago, APAC threw in another 2.6 million. Wow. They just threw, I mean, millions is getting spent within weeks. And again, this is now the most expensive primary in primary history. There's no more proof that we're cooked. Well, the fact of the fact of our political system is is is set up in a way that can be advantageous, but in this case, it's it's too confusing for its own good. The reason young people aren't going out, we've been yelling about midterms, midterms, midterms, midterms. If he loses this, he's not votable at the midterm election. Kentucky is red as it gets. So whoever's the Democrat, it doesn't matter. The vote is happening now. And young people don't know it's even happening. They get all the old people in there to vote, and that's all they need.

unknown 1:04:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:19

That's kind of scary. Yeah. Especially too.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:21

Like that ad is like we might have to call it, boys. We might have to we do jump the ship. We do have to jump the ship off this one because we're five minutes past our soft end. Oh, I meant the whole country. Oh, I want to talk about the podcast.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:34

I was gonna say, I'm gonna.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:35

Listen, I told my dad we're heading out here to do this, and he said, good luck getting kicked in the teeth. Because he thinks we're not we're not gonna be able to make a dent.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:43

Really? Why?

SPEAKER_05 1:04:45

I don't know. It's the way it's always been. No, he rocked he actually really rocks with Thomas Massey. He actually really he probably rocks with Thomas more than I rock with Thomas Massey. He would have fangirled a little bit there. But I think we can make an impact. I think especially if we're fire.

unknown 1:05:05

Literally.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:06

I think especially the game plan is to get us all in Kentucky because all the algorithms also focus local content in their algorithms. So if we're physically there, I think that makes an impact. I don't know. I just want to do something. I want us to be able to make some kind of impact or dent and prove that people can beat money. And if we can prove that people can beat money, that would be awesome. You might not be able to prove that. I get that. I get that. I'm just saying, I'm already on the side. If I was putting a calci bet on what's gonna happen, it's that we're gonna lose. I was gonna say money is up on the scoreboard of 150 billion to zero. Yeah. Money's all in it. It's always been hard to get younger people, I feel like, to vote, especially now. It might be easier. Isn't the old Paul Bunyan story of that old story of him like having to out chop the machine or outmine the machine? Wasn't there an old school story about the man beating the machine? I can't remember what story I'm referencing. Um there's an episode of How I Met Your Mother where That's definitely what I'm saying Marshall tries to outrun a bus route and loses. That sounds cool. That sounds like a great core to us. It's not real, it's it's fake, it's TV show. But that's the that's the that's the plot. I I hope we can rewatch it. I think that that gives people machine. If we do it, it gives people hope that it could happen in other places. Nah, you gotta destroy the machine. I get that. Don't have but if we can beat the machine at a battle that might give us confidence, we could destroy it. No, you gotta get in. You gotta sabotage the machine. I truly believe that. That sounds a lot like why he put out that anti-terrorism document. Sounds like you might be. Sounds like you might be working your way into a document. Another fire! You gotta destroy the machine. He's gotta go put out a fire. Inside out. Well, I'm gonna be in Kentucky fighting this fire. Sean's gonna be here in Delaware fighting two other fires, and Joe's gonna be figuring out how we can light fire to the entire system. I'm gonna be making clips. I'm gonna be clipping podcasts, boys. Guys, one thing we're grateful for before we pin off. Anything we're grateful for that we can end off with?

unknown 1:07:09

No.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:09

Oh, damn it. I'll start. Let Sean think of one. I am grateful for seeds in the ground. Food prices are going up, fuel costs are going up because of the war. We love the war, but I want to make sure that we have food for our family and our community. I have a little, uh, not even little, it's a 40 by 20 garden that's now starting to produce some vines and some leaves and seedlings are popping up and flowers, and I don't know. After all this, getting to walk out and water all that for a good 20 minutes, just and then I walk back into the content. That's what I'm grateful for. I'm grateful for my new uh THC fueled worldview that I got. Remember, I told you last week I like drank 20 millis of I don't I've never smoked weed in my life. I drank THC seltzers for the past year, like five and ten milligrams. For the first time I did a 20 bomb.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:05

And then I had this thought where I was like, humans have been around for like 20,000 years.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:11

Why does everyone act like the world's about to end? Like, why don't we just I was like, why don't we just act like humans are gonna be here for 20,000 more years? But I it put this thought in my head was like, what if during my life I acted in a way where my goal is to do something that will positively impact humans a thousand years from now? So I've just been doing that in my morning meditation. It's being like, be a value to humans today and a thousand years from now, and it makes my days way lighter. I know that sounds crazy, but I've it's like a week ago is when it happened, and every week I've been like just thinking about that. Like on the car. We are a blip in the uh history timeline. Yeah. I like go to a cemetery and look at all the people in the US. That's the past 200 years. If you want to see where the richest place in the world is, go where the dreams died. It's like graveyard. But it that's like what 0.01% of the timeline of human history that we have recorded. It's insane. Yeah, and that's every cemetery in the country. Like But I think the stat is one-third of all the humans that ever existed on the planet Earth exist right now. I just don't know if that's correct. It's a third? It's like a wild number. It might be a four, it might be a fourth or a fifth, but it's still a number. It's like, whoa, that's a large chunk of human beings. Yeah. A lot of us, like, you know, bad things may happen, we may die, but we may die. There could be some sacrifice I'm willing to make. It got me obsessed with like food and beer again, though. So I have a good friend who's religious, who's Christian, and I we just met up last Friday for the first time in forever. You're a big craft beer guy, brewery guy. Just be clear about your statement of I really got into beer. I think it's a good idea. No, I used to be into it a lot more, and I got out of it for like the past couple years. Like, I haven't really drank that much. We went out and we went to dogfish and they had an English cascale. And I was like, dude, this beer style has been around for like 400 years. And I was like, specifically cask beer. They say, like, I said, specifically cask beer, thank you. They've made even longer than that, just the English style has been around forever. And I said, you know, like popes have drank this style of beer, isn't that cool? And his eyes lit up and I was like, What? And food, same thing with food. People say like authentic Chinese food is one of the best foods out there, and I want to have it so bad. And be like, someone ate this a thousand years ago. That's crazy. But that's all that's what I'm thankful for. New worldview. Pulling back the graph. Shout out THC. That's great, that's such good advice because in the financial world they say the same thing. If you're freaking out over the finances of today, this week, this month, pull back the graph. Yeah, and that's essentially what you're doing with time. It's like I'm if you focus in on right now, it can seem crazy, pull back the graph, it seems less crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:49

I'm grateful for Selena. She's like the most smartest, funniest girl I've ever met, and I love her to death. Amen, dog. She's awesome.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:58

I'm grateful for my wife and my baby girl, too. Alright, guys. Three, two, one. That was better than the first one. All right. If you enjoyed the podcast today, thank you guys so much for watching. Be sure to hit that subscribe button. This is our new channel. If you don't know, on Zach's main channel, we do have some uh shirts that we put up. Uh little politically motivated if you're into that kind of thing. Um, if you're looking for ways to support us again, we are all not professional content creators, at least yet. We're trying our best. This is really weird. Um, we're not professional content creators yet. We're trying our best. We want to make sure everything's free. We have not taken on any ads. Uh, you can join our dollar club on Zach's main YouTube channel. It's a dollar subscription, just helps us get some more money. We're gonna post like one or two silly videos a month there just for members. And then the other thing you can do is follow him on all his other socials, especially Facebook, Instagram. We got kicked out of TikTok monetization, but you can follow us there. Hopefully, we'll get back to it. And hopefully, we'll see you on the next one. Comment, like, let us know what you liked. Let us know what you want to talk about next week. Recommend guests.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:02

Uh but we remember who's on there.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:07

We are not on the Epstein list.