"הדתיות האלה" מה זה בכלל להיות “דתייה לאומית” ב־2026?

אורטל והדר בשיחה אישית על מה זה להיות סרוג. בין צחוקים על “שעון בני עקיבא”, על ההתנהלות ה"יהיה בסדר" של המגזר וועל ההבדלים בין סוגי שולחנות-שבת במגזר, נפתחת גם שיחה עמוקה על אחד הדברים הכי ייחודיים בציונות הדתית: המפגש המתמיד בין שמיים לארץ

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SPEAKER_01 0:06

Mashome, echa yom Mashutter of fame, your territories then is together.

SPEAKER_00 1:33

Okay, as a stomach.

SPEAKER_01 3:14

Objection, your honor.

SPEAKER_00 3:16

Objection of Pam Lo ehve Nefesh Tamido, Zot Mim, Zot. Asipo Esthetic, Shana Mizakhardi usipo, me odmarach bana. Khavit lagid. Me odmara kiti afakotchul karidiot. Achalme bagani kita kedatani trashikba faka bepsef khadi, to dat bi polyana. Polyana, samuli pea, ve iputti, kilo anim minimum. Lobachane.

SPEAKER_01 4:10

Aba, khalata ubarchola chita ba uboza goya l kata ma bog me odgwa. Mazita showak shiva azana.

SPEAKER_00 4:23

Watkas tulela azana. Oh talter silak shiv. Sedan? No. Any cavana uh lokimotano sababa. Mm-hmm by esthetica, basseda, by gun. No. Bazman, Bazmanim, I mean the basmanim. Zo. Makash ka kosha la kilo mutaganak mexara dim the pamlo kosman. Boy abgadim a dim levushim.

SPEAKER_01 4:46

Anichbechsiba Maza the rim shelbgadim Shivi Anira Khabanakibnebra k nashim, Mami, aneti bella ad defne kamasman. No? Ani timoto, ha tafti kefrada. Lamakti bamakom. Ki fell adamibra, kati kilo belev, lev, lev leve. Dimbakwish. Ladim nashibmarota na shibra simote haiba k shivi. Ib saidun, but lobakwish veloba hov loba normalim elma a me root ah bala banem. A l'artilishtagani man chaz Lovanti laman inhasilato I doty by stress shall stress him. Anegilak video is lini to manchu gum gumbahi batsibora the till batibora haredi, she simile gamayagun, shak hardit, a bai chalamodnaki, mitmunot, nakimi, a midbahya mrod modna ki nat lolo colm musar vabetohnout. Sid the till me lob to me the coloya musta or not we're the agenda, fair machine. Baharadish a call to mera hot, me odmot mod, and sudar when a ki ve kelu, la van with a lam, covers a mushlamasta. Yeshamona shimbachbiim, a soula gidiza, a soula gidiza, the de otlam cubalot athalistom velola git, boy, at meven kido nahan besthetica him, but zero bad him, and I lo krim.

SPEAKER_00 6:25

Have the tochoni jachni sole em tohnitali mimal zerud badra mashadamash vodna'at Madamalena Malim shall hotilum ba bagda uhitsu, yeshes a mashuba charitsuit as man, as man, as man, as he pushes man, manima speaker, kamani m spika, begam teshivishom ima charit it. Iloma let comuni vikam to baitula. And in a gidayom ajanima si las samhut, and it's a haliot badrahatorim slash tipul slash zesabish kna till sam chut. Slama tala tshuoti move vnet, a toyelet ben arbal okay tslobenash no time washana mim. Aval Megadel Yeled, Megadel Zola Maher Zola Motahim. Ave not mashu, rabeni toritama shit and panel shavisholo za faba panelas muz m bemed bemet musmanim legame panashem debera tionuta tita, mixar sarukses manchanu davkamizar hardifkalid Bonemachutza valgama Benitoritama di brighty alzala, alive the lima the tilumi colozmananachnu. Kiloshbano sho me odamiti. Sof Kilosh can emet. Adam olechima emetchelo in Madar Sholo Mahibushola Kosbohu, buta shasiku Vermi tahad the Planchata em the odminori. Anachno me odugrim. Kenish is the dugri gamitmo de dude be omets imukavut.

SPEAKER_01 7:41

Masha, what you see, what you get kiloella no staro, tellaned kazeo, kazeo, kaze coli alashulhan lomki had a timelum sho met a hymni pohot.

SPEAKER_00 7:52

Ya shame well pochot, and if treated me ma tak shavai in yeshlieled Hoveshkipa or Zelo ye but siak shelano beast.

SPEAKER_01 8:02

Massy push and tumis, um, to that and day a la arets on mockini, the gamma uh boy and a bathlachno and a ship, I'm a me but uh uh, you can't get a bigger, but I'm gonna be able to mix.

SPEAKER_00 10:06

I've mutanificated, many toute not Koshani Buffinish, Pachotte to that pote mit Haberetki Negania Damodmodil Khati, a valeniadine, bezashani lumps pick to an it. Ki ki afhoda is al hotimet Mal Hotani Kenovatani Horace andihora Alham Penati Ider Chaim. Bahou shelled colour al Hotanim came, but should we shell it?

SPEAKER_01 10:32

Sedarim the Bening is what it's new to a nom she write a sheriat and ill merit, the best, the lobecter, ill hatit the lobecter, necoda Zelomer Hatit, the Lama Shell dimshiloim, a shella mutorani, the shella kilo to that, mautit, kick mister Klimala gido lo todavía sniff, yes ba bachli bava mali to that ima, lobotusko sniff uh by showani Lomamina. Martila sliha, the Malikan? Lama Manivena, a bat kitschelli, a madhima ha ha a hikhevati, a hikev rutit a himatlomatima.

SPEAKER_00 11:16

Logale flogadal de Bahavazo, never at Magadetta and the Batal dasha. Echanik de la Bhevra, the title meat. We cabelo yamhadan salit kabelasnif om rimli atlo must pick to any lachit me to any tali boy.

SPEAKER_01 11:34

Kushama kiva m tva de camashmo titla banot life shows the dech mata kiva must you tambani well zeloca should that I am blah kilo name showim me vina kilo mazum shane vinazutielda im achim.

SPEAKER_00 11:55

Vina collate to scoodba mila tora ni slash chardali se gig tatani koshata sickma frid and igilachma area karidim marcosban rim atem a pop capsula kmo shamra banite orita marba panel, aharim sihas kmo capsula kazochia me galud,ra me oda tivionchella a signosa odmo badicomrim Bemhrim Kvedimagamedim, mechim shel, milhemitolam gametohba bait vegambahoots. Vyomena tilumi, Roberta mistaleve, mistaleve, mistalev as pitombetohhozarimed tilumi, ba imanashivima v regga. Achmusta leve, mistaleve val you capsule kilochnu malemaleta take capsule gav, capsulezot at lorualikanas. Laulpena azu atloto voikatlamas pictorani toi mshawas picto spictorani, kshe boy aflo be metude. Manusababai chyba node tati boshlano, vezi ksa tsuvli, and like is a ktagama fridoti. Kzam fridoti barama kinuhit ki as a bencheli lomgi shayach Lola Motatora ulay, comosha iti rosashuye shayh, ki me shumivad of tloni, shitita bidul. Kam zabanim or uh menale ulpenot, uhita, col shita shita me on no de shel pamala signal. Pam is a loshita salayomita pam better shapitam better shit a pam pamifrane shia pam, can be pam?

SPEAKER_01 13:23

Ba kabalotla ulpenot, uh yeah, Iata the vazi. It's like a bala ulpen cabal open as an in tetba, mamma mashlo. I gam not cut gumla sham can it maniahuda? Mana cabal, yes many lotload bulpenashale througgim dosim matoshanti Laki actually vini any any Bemeto merit kilo gizanut kazash gamon of naslet to shik kaze.

SPEAKER_00 13:56

Kenna the berrel gizanut behadapanisha meta sifu Michamitzadehada nachnu and achnu kele andashim me uhadim Bemeta manny youfted a Zeramazekbuhofesh veshbuchliot mishata. But Mamakom Shelha, Zam Ramau Hanichlia Yom Maharutia Heret, Bodeshana, uh Shella Lev Shella Mach Shavashela Tibulashma Zot Toate Toat Himbenai Raf Cook Shani and Shamat Bishpatma Bispaf Cook and Holf Kotan is Shama Shelly's poem Huberet la la la la Torazot ki ken's a bidukani, zebucani, a have it a shall have tight shelf tsira emo.

SPEAKER_01 14:46

Oh la la mama bat to that shanity hared it khahared as a kashayali ayat by murd modgadim. Say murd mode kilo to that collar nalepita sipo, the statit collecuda, gamlon colo sipo. Avalimahulzama kufterle me go stab lefe statisema odmasuda moculam shoot atleno market about me. Shukar sicun Navina Anachalukrim Sikunim Mamash Bezahadim Lomuchimlasot. Navina, and I look himsikunim cometalok be vimbach, the shakh butsh a munak dolabano by holo chelano four shakib Gamsha hiburwa ideal, a barat mechdal, a kibur lam israel, wash lihoot l it bad loot, mimlo, mad fini badel, smortatora l'motatora, but uhba mochila no shovish ma marmamem, shall love cook, shumer and roto rota mashu ledma, rota codesh, uh cookyot's leha, uh kim bedel tenu mashu kaze. Basum deberal machane, shame debera la la lumute, a machane beral um. Mutaroz, the pizca channel shiny. Lisco, a umani, said erat Israel, the had a lumute. Okay. Okay. Kilumaza Umani, aumani is a colour call us smaller radicality that I'm a common shellisti, ma feminism, uh, total liberali. Ashani is errors, the bemet that's you know that it loomit. There is a magnificent, if name million shana. Okay. Khalikmatit er israel that's okay, there ashli shit ma'am arty.

SPEAKER_00 17:05

Ah, Torah meat as Torah aloe. A martelumit. A mart erit israel a martoman low and a ship your tell. And yeah, show you.

SPEAKER_01 18:41

No, talk. Aya Madragame Torofet, Avalgash and Srayut Petra of Cook. Mevina, as Pitomura Bresla Vigia, as Pitom Kivalti Oda Vir.

unknown 19:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 19:19

Kilusa Virchetis Kukalo, Clalisra, Claisrael, Tisrael, Claisrael, Dalatisra, she go to the colour. Me Vina Dimitri Toran Vitamaz, the besedder, the besedar, wow.

SPEAKER_00 20:19

Why said me a collar?

SPEAKER_01 20:39

Kilo in my kitchen. Israel, the lost stamps, the local Israel. The Lyot Art Sim, Lyrodum Art Sim, but I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_00 20:56

Anachnu Loshum Davar, Anachnu, Anachnua Cole, Anachnuam Israel, Kosabi Chuva. Anachnu of a shame of their shame. A proposabuch, and not that come to Shali at Shirato Shirotar Mizariuch, Zeaneno to Bigral. Boy, Mlo Shamakom, Pasruga, but Madi Fashion Vash. Can I take himself?

unknown 21:39

Okay.