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Gideon Glick: Broadway, Fire Island Chaos & the Atlantis Cruise Debate (From Zipolite)

Pride House Media Season 1 Episode 127

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This episode starts with absolutely no plan and somehow ends with nonprofit theater, Atlantis Cruise arrests, Patti LuPone, and me being accused (again) of gentrifying Mexico.

So. You’re welcome.

Adam and I are in full Zipolite brain — which means we’re overstimulated, under‑hydrated, and spiritually sponsored by ChiZme. Within the first five minutes we’ve already derailed into dinner party gossip, nightclub lore, and my lifelong devotion to Patti LuPone (who remains correct about everything).

But most importantly, the adorable Gideon Glick is our guest today — Broadway prince, Spring Awakening baby, Maisel alum, and certified word‑nerd chaos agent — and instead of calming us down, he makes it worse.

We talk about how we’re basically accidental foster brothers from Ohio with shared grief trauma (casual!), then immediately pivot to:

  • Lea Michele discourse
  • Diva behavior analytics
  • Dating on Fire Island (a hostile sport)
  • Douching logistics (educational segment??)
  • Pup play (don’t ask)

Somewhere inside the spiral, Gideon casually drops that he launched the Blue Roses Project in New Orleans — a nonprofit that pairs emerging queer playwrights with established directors for an unproduced‑play intensive using local artists. It’s giving Southern gothic arts renaissance. It’s giving humidity and dramaturgy.

Then — because we cannot stay in one lane — we debate Metro Weekly publishing the names of nine men arrested while allegedly trying to board an Atlantis Cruise. Are we protecting the community? Ruining lives? Feeding the outrage machine? Is gay media messy? (Yes.)

Gurl, this is not a linear podcast.
This is two gays and a guest with microphones.

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SPEAKER_01

What happens when you let Enfanturible, now just terrible, Daniel Nardicho off his leash to say and do whatever he wants?

SPEAKER_02

The man who has offended everyone is back. Along with my brother from another mother, Adam Kletch, we're back with our latest creation, Trigger Warning. A podcast that is not for the faint of heart. Prepare to be offended, enlightened, and highly entertained. Trigger Warning is not a safe space podcast, but answers the questions no one wants to ask. Serves steep in vodka and a dash of bitter. Each week we'll bring you the highest and lowest in NYC nightlife. So buckle up, you've been warned. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

All right, let me start this over.

SPEAKER_02

You want to start it over? This is unbelievably unprofessional. Do we are this guy is literally SAG AFTRA, and we're wasting his time by with insanity. He's gonna need a union break soon. By the way, Sam is looking snacky, our business uh partner. You know that? He's wearing a bigger shirt. She's got her her hair is very higher. What is it? Higher, what is it? Higher than her heels. The higher the hair, the closer to God. Yeah. Anyway, ladies and gentlemen, our next guest is Broadway. No, seriously, Gideon. Um, you know, uh, you know, you I think you can tell by now I've uh always had a crush on you.

SPEAKER_04

I'm very flattered. Yeah, you're just the same. And I'm starting to get one. I know. I'm getting more flattered.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. It's unbelievable. I'll see a cheese. This is a very delicious dish right now. That's what Daniel and I say. I'll see you at cheese mice. Right now, it's a very delicious dish the way we're talking for NPR. And I have sweaty balls. I would love some sweaty balls. No, you're not. Gideon walked all the way here. All right. So, anyway, let's talk. Uh uh. Jesus Christ off the road. How did you end up here in Zippolite? We had a dinner party last night, actually, where we talked about. Wonderful dinner party. Thanks for coming. It was good, right?

SPEAKER_01

You made a really good pasta. Thank you. We had Gideon Glick and husband Perry. We had Jimbo, the drag guy. Oh, I love Jimbo. And I love Jimbo. Jimbo's the best. And Ari Shapiro. Ari Shapiro. Business partner Salmon, his husband fell. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02

A real who's who? A real who's who, yeah, totally.

SPEAKER_04

How did I get here?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

My husband booked the trip. I said nothing.

SPEAKER_01

You guys didn't like talk about like, hey, let's go to Zibelite.

SPEAKER_04

Let's No, no, no. We talked about dates. Okay. But he handles everything. We sort of say that he's the camp director and the counselor.

SPEAKER_02

I have an issue with him, you know, right now. Because he likes to because he didn't like Patty Le Pone. We can't talk about this publicly.

SPEAKER_04

We have we can't do that.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. Because I fucking we fucking love Patty LePone. Oh my god, I'm literally. I forgot I'm wearing this today because it black matches the shorts. What does my shirt say, Gideon? I survived Patty LePone's writer. Do you know why?

SPEAKER_04

What if I couldn't read and then I'd feel really embarrassed?

SPEAKER_02

If you were like, oh my god, you're like Leah Michelle. Like Leah Michelle. You were in the show with her. She can't read.

SPEAKER_04

Leah can read. Can't she read? I'm going on recording.

SPEAKER_01

I also heard we can't talk about Leah Michelle. You didn't get Gideon's writer? There are there's there's pre-I read it as writing Gideon. Sounds great. Where do I sign?

SPEAKER_02

Have you ever slept with two brothers?

SPEAKER_04

Uh, but you guys are um first of all, I really thought you were Blood Brothers.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. A lot of people do because we sound alike, we act alike.

SPEAKER_04

Well, you I think you've like absorbed each other. Take that as you will. He would love that.

SPEAKER_02

But as I tell him frequently, never gonna happen. I'm not into middle-aged men who uh sorry, God. Uh we have a we're very similar. This is the whole story. The whole story with us is we've known each other for uh pretty much our whole lives. We both are father foster brothers. We grew up in Ohio, um a few miles from each other. Um, and at the end of the day, I've never had someone who was more like a brother than him.

SPEAKER_04

That's very beautiful.

SPEAKER_02

We talked about in our pilot episode that we both had lost brothers as well.

SPEAKER_01

Right. My brother died of testicular cancer. And my brother was suicide.

SPEAKER_04

I'm very sorry.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you know, people die. Um, a motorcycle rolling by the same.

SPEAKER_04

I think that's actually your car.

SPEAKER_01

How's your meatloaf? Oh, that is my car. You're right.

SPEAKER_02

My car is just someone thrown away with my car, and we're just like, oh, that's your car. There goes your single engine.

SPEAKER_01

There goes your single engine prop lane.

SPEAKER_02

My car is so loud that it literally sounds like a single engine prop lane.

SPEAKER_01

But no, we just talked about that. Uh it was from the time we met, which was 23 years ago now, um, we were just natural fits in each other's lives. And totally, you know, uh he's been my brother longer than I actually had my brother in my life.

SPEAKER_04

That's really beautiful. It's also what I feel like as gay people. Chosen family is really important. It really it I it sounds so corny. I talked about it 100% sure.

SPEAKER_01

I talked about on a previous podcast that all people always say like blood is thicker than water, but what the actual old saying is the blood of the battlefield is thicker than the water of the womb.

SPEAKER_04

There we go.

SPEAKER_02

Wait, is it actually that's that's cum thicker No, I just want to know, is cum thicker than blood?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. We should ask my my husband doctor.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, okay. We will I don't talk to him anymore because he doesn't like Patty Lapone. Oh my god. All right, well, anyway, we by the way, uh one last thing before we part ways permanently. Yeah, exactly. By the way, every podcast we talk about Patty LuPone. Okay, because uh we worked with her um a couple times, and I love the woman, but um and she and Adam loves to tell the story. It bears repeating.

SPEAKER_05

Has she been on the podcast?

SPEAKER_02

Uh no, no, she has not because we started the podcast after we worked together, but she's gonna come back and I'm happy to tell the story. Okay, he loves this story. Get ready. Okay. So Daniel. And by the way, we're gonna interview you at some point, all right? This is what we did with this is what we did with Jonathan.

SPEAKER_01

It was like we talked about everyone else, and then we're like, we've got about five minutes left to hear. But I mean, he was wrapped up. What do you want to plug? He was wrapped. Exactly. Yeah. Um so Daniel calls me and he's like, hey, Patty wants two beach chairs, she wants to go down to the beach. We got her a really nice house, it's private, nobody knew her location, you know, didn't want a bunch of fandom. However, when she was warming up, you knew exactly where Patty was living because she was top of the lungs with her piano player.

SPEAKER_04

Fire alarm.

SPEAKER_01

So I'm like, cool, I'm on it. Great. I would love to do this. So we go to this uh store connected to the ice palace. You may be familiar, it's called Puff and Drag. Um, and I was like, Andy, I need your two best beach chairs. He goes, Well, why do you want those for? And I was like, Exactly. It's for Patty LePone. He instantly runs to the back. He has two like yet to be opened brand new beach chairs. So I run them down and I go and there's like this sliding glass door, and I'm like, I can see she's on the phone, and it's like, no, no. And she's like, Oh, come on, come on, come on. And I drop the beach chairs off. I'm like so sorry. She puts the phone out, she goes, My goodness, you're gorgeous. So you love her forever. Well, totally.

SPEAKER_02

And also as a little fag from Ohio, like I'm dead. She could be a scab, she could insult black people, and we don't care because she said Adam was cute. That's all it takes here. She could be mirrors. She didn't actually insult black people. That whole thing was a scam. But anyway, we won't talk about that right now. Gideon, let's talk about let's talk about you. Do you use that one a lot? Uh only for him. I mean, I'd use it another time. It's only for him. We talk about my dating life. Actually, ironically, last night I uh I had this little fling with this guy who uh lives here in Zipolite, who is so sweet, right? So sexy. Is that why you raised home? I did not invite him last night because I was like, he pulls focus.

SPEAKER_01

Oh.

SPEAKER_02

Jackson's so hot. Oh, oh, Jackson is so hot. I didn't invite him until it was, I said come for drinks afterward. He was like, no, no, don't worry about it. He's coming to the Oscar thing tomorrow night, but he's so hot that I was like, it'll just end up being like the jackets.

SPEAKER_01

Gideon said he was gonna join the party over at uh Sinomberry.

SPEAKER_04

I went by. You weren't there.

SPEAKER_01

We were there for like two hours with Ari and Sam and Phil at the at the outside table. Ladies and gentlemen, hot take getting puke as a lot. When you left dinner, like, I'm gonna go home and just freshen up. Is it a three and a half hour fresh? Did you douche? Is that what you meant? Yeah, of course I douched.

SPEAKER_04

Are you kidding?

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god. The plot is literally thickened.

SPEAKER_01

The plot is thickening right now. I should have waited till closing. Girl, I would be there now. It's fresh enough.

SPEAKER_04

When we went, it was like 80% straight people. Yeah, no, it is. It's mixed in the case. We'll go to cheese made at night. You want to make straight people, but it's your last night. What are we gonna do? You don't want a bottom for them. One night only. Depends on who they are.

SPEAKER_01

No, he's douching to top.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I only only feel comfortable topping when I'm douched. Hey, hey. So your husband got a big one. Why do the phone taught me that?

SPEAKER_02

That was like three beats too late. It was funny. What are you working on these days?

SPEAKER_04

What am I working on?

SPEAKER_02

Because we're gonna try to keep this as if it's an actual interview.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I um And then we we haven't recorded yet, but we're gonna start soon. So just get keep practicing.

SPEAKER_04

Have we really not recorded?

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god, I just I just panicked and I was like, oh my god, are we not working? We did that with Jonathan. We did this really fucking funny.

SPEAKER_04

I believe you guys every time you fuck with me.

SPEAKER_02

Because we love fucking with you. Because I've dreamt of fucking with you my entire life. That's what's in going on in his head when I say that.

SPEAKER_04

No, just after a week of being in Zipalite, that's just going in my head constantly.

SPEAKER_02

We gotta get we got him here early because he wants to go hang out at the beach all day long. And we're gonna take him to Cheese May tonight. I'm gonna do Pala Domor. I'm doing Cheese Mate. I'm having a Saturday girl. Yeah. I'm not going to Play Demore. I hate that place. Why do you hate it? I just I find it like it's like being in a nightclub where the nature, it's too fuck you. It's too much for me. Cheese me I can handle. It's too much. It's too much of like a I don't want to meet markety vibe.

SPEAKER_01

Anywho, Gideon, what are you working on? Let's get away from all this garbage. Let's actually interview our guests. What are you working on?

SPEAKER_02

That's that was a question I asked five minutes ago. I just want to say for our listener.

SPEAKER_04

Well, I just started this nonprofit down in New Orleans. Oh, right. So I was living there for two months. I actually haven't been back to New York since early January.

SPEAKER_01

You should buy my brother's apartment.

SPEAKER_04

In the Marinade?

SPEAKER_01

In New Orleans. I'm gonna love it. It's incredible. You're gonna stay there, right? I think you guys talked about your side. Thank you, by the way. You are going to fall in love with this apartment. I I lived through a hurricane in this apartment. The building is quaint. The apartment is so it's everything you need to like be out and about in New Orleans and then come home to like this warm little one-bedroom home, cute living room, little sitting area, tons of bring sleep mask if you don't like sleeping in.

SPEAKER_02

Because I would wake up with my dog Butterball and she would be like running around in the bed. She never did that. But the light is so intense in my apartment because it's up like one. Yeah. Got it. What's the nonprofit?

SPEAKER_04

Uh is it's called the Blue Roses Project. Okay. So what we do is we take uh emerging queer playwrights who haven't really had a full production, like a spotlight on them. We match them with established directors, we bring them to New Orleans to work with uh local artists, and we bring artists in as well. And it's on a basically an unproduced play. So it works as a part work-intensive part retreat. We're trying to use uh um the city to really, really uh inspire you.

SPEAKER_01

Have you spoken to Jonathan about this?

SPEAKER_04

Uh John was actually on the board for for a minute.

SPEAKER_01

Because you know he's taking his family farm in Lancaster and turning the barn that he used to do, the Wizard of Oz in or whatever. Yeah. Which we share in common. Like we both spent our childhoods like doing he did Dorothy, I did the Wicked Witch.

SPEAKER_04

That tells you our and I was Toto. Really? That was my first role.

SPEAKER_02

That's Toto.

SPEAKER_01

Oh no, I meant we spent summers like dressed as and continued to perform. Like not in theater.

SPEAKER_04

How do you know that's not what I'm doing, too?

unknown

Wow.

SPEAKER_01

Were you just running around your house as a dog? Yeah, pupp play. You're into pupp play. I can't really.

SPEAKER_02

Well, here we go. Yeah, you're heard our first listener.

SPEAKER_05

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02

Getting click is a pup. All right. Can I tell a story real quickly about our business partner, Taylor? Sure. So he bought one of those butt plugs that has like a tail because he was going to go to a pup thing. And he was on fire. You know what I'm talking about, right? It's a butt plug that gets and then we're in.

SPEAKER_04

Isn't that what all the tails are in?

SPEAKER_02

My apartment, and he puts it in. Yeah, yeah. All the tails are public. But he puts it in. Patty LePone taught me that too. Yeah, totally. This is what happened to him, and it actually happened to Patty LePone as well. He put it in and then he walked across the room and it just fell out because his hole was so stretched.

SPEAKER_01

Poor guy. Yeah, he bought for a Chihuahua and he needed a St. Bernard. Sure. That's our SAT word, sound. Do you have a big word you like to use?

SPEAKER_04

Uh apotropaic.

SPEAKER_02

Calapelegios? You know callipologis? No. Calapelegius means uh having a great ass, is what we basically told Jonathan because. Is it a real word or no? Yeah, yeah, it's Greek.

SPEAKER_04

I know I don't trust you guys now.

SPEAKER_02

Well, and you also clearly are not well read. Caliplegious is uh means having of having a great ass. And Jonathan was on. I said he's our most calipolog in my intro, and he's uh probably our most calipologious guest, and he was like, What? Yeah, and I was like, Okay, she's pretty, but she doesn't have calipologious.

SPEAKER_04

That is what is your word now? My word is an anomaly. To use another to use another big word. So apotropaic is one of my favorite words. It's it means to something that is guarding. So like a sphinx. Apotropaic.

SPEAKER_01

Apotropaic. It's just uh I'm gonna use that uh in my next Pines Party uh meeting because we were having some Sphinx around. I can't give away the theme just yet, but uh oh I I think I know it now.

SPEAKER_02

I think it was pretty easy to deduce from that.

SPEAKER_01

It's called it's called Blue Roses, is that correct? It's called Blue Roses Project. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I can't wait to hear more about it. I love New Orleans. Obviously, I wouldn't have bought a place there if I didn't love it so much. It's uh it's such an incredible town. And you're gonna be there for the Tennessee Williams Festival.

SPEAKER_04

Yes, that's why I'm going back.

SPEAKER_02

And you're obviously friends with John Cameron Mitchell, right? You know John.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah. I've been to John's place.

SPEAKER_02

You've been to a crazy house. It's incredible. Ari was just staying there. Ari Shapiro who's doing it. And my friend. Oh, that's right. He told me that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um, my good friend Mitchell, who helps with the Pines Party. One's gonna mention that. Uh Mitchell helped John decorate the house. Mitchell's this wonderful little radical fairy. Mitchell like the fairies. I don't like the fairies. I know. You don't like the pines? I don't like the fairies. You don't like the radical fairies? He had one bad experience 20 years ago.

SPEAKER_04

Did he go to Shore Mountain?

SPEAKER_01

No, no, no. No, he just tried to do business with them in these villages. And like you can't do business with the radical fairy.

SPEAKER_02

They look at me as the commercial capitalist. They look at me as the great colonizer. They look at me as like the you know, he's a capitalist. And it's like, you know what? You they're all okay. This is my story. Those are the nice things. This is my story about that, right? Yeah. With the the whole watering hole thing. Yes. Yeah. I just can't stand them. They were this guy who said, I don't want to go into the whole story. I'll tell you off the off. Josh cut all of this. Cut the whole thing. Cut it all.

SPEAKER_04

You know what? Let's start over.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. From the top. Ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to Trigger Warning. My name is Ten Sorcich. And I'm Adam Class. Our first guest tonight.

SPEAKER_01

So wait, I want to ask you Calapolitics. I want to go back to Broadway.

SPEAKER_02

You remember that? Let's go back to Broadway.

SPEAKER_01

Your recall's good. Uh, thanks. That was pretty good.

unknown

Thanks.

SPEAKER_04

I got nervous right before I said it. I was like, wait, is this it?

SPEAKER_01

You nailed it. Um so was uh Spring Awakening your your first show?

SPEAKER_04

Uh it was my first Broadway show, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Where are you from, by the way?

SPEAKER_04

I'm from a suburb of Philadelphia called Lower Marion. Oh, okay, great. Yeah. So I moved to New York to do Spring Awakening when I was 17 and I was a senior in high school.

SPEAKER_01

So you and Jonathan were the same age, I think.

SPEAKER_04

He was, I think he's like two years older than me.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, right, because he had that bomb right out of high school. I can't remember what it was called, but he talks about it all the time.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

In the Light?

SPEAKER_04

What was it called? No, what was it?

SPEAKER_01

I don't remember. Yeah, he was gonna go to either Penn State or Carnegie Mellon, something in Pennsylvania.

SPEAKER_02

So did you teach Liam Michelle to read, or did she come in already knowing? No, they had to sound it out.

SPEAKER_04

Liam Michelle's always knowing how to read. Isn't that the weirdest? The strange way to troll somebody is that so much. I saw her in Funny Girl twice, and every time, you know, Fanny says, I haven't read many books, and the entire audience laughed.

unknown

Is it?

SPEAKER_04

Because they know because they know that her article. But she also is like, you know, she's accepted it.

SPEAKER_02

She is a queen. And she's you know, I I I I joke around about her, right? Because like I think it's kind of funny, right? Like Patty Le Pone. Like how Patty Mock, do you? No. No. Uh like how Patty Le Pone dropped the uh the thing out of her ass, you know, the you know, the pubtail. The pup tail. You know Lee Michelle's it the str the the thing with Broadway is if you can create and craft a story around yourself, Ethel Merman, these different people, it's kind of like it works for her. I mean, she saved fun, she saved Funny Girl, didn't she?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, and I I feel like um we don't have a lot of those. We don't have a lot of them, for sure, but we don't have a lot of those like new divas. They don't really exist. Like who are uh the contemporary Megan Hilty, Sutton Foster, but they're not like they're not broads, they're not broads, but also they're not divas.

SPEAKER_01

But also, don't you feel like um she grew up listening to Sutton Foster and Megan Hilty? I feel like they're they're a generation before. Sutton just seems like a lovely story.

SPEAKER_04

First of all, Leah came out fully formed and she was you know, she was doing ragtime, right? So I think she was as Tato's daughter. She was like her own entity. In the same way, like you know, Barbara Streisand famously was like, I didn't listen to anybody. Right, right. I don't know if that's true, but that's what she says.

SPEAKER_02

So what do you like? What is your next career thing you want to do? Um, you were in Macil, which I mean, come on. Thank you. I mean mace's like, it's like up there with like 30 rocks.

SPEAKER_01

Like who your character, what you played that character so well. Thank you very much. I'm not sure there's another way to play this kind of like, I don't know if I need an agent. I'm a weird New York magician in this six dude.

SPEAKER_04

Um you know, I've I've really been into writing lately. Uh I I wrote on the TV show after that with Amy Sherman Paladino and Dan Paladino. Um so I I wrote on that and I acted on that. I have a movie that Killer Films is attached to that I wrote. Um it's based off a book called Joseph and the Old Man. Uh it's about a seventh-year-old man who loses his younger lover, and then he's um contemplating suicide all in Cherry Grove, Fire Island. Oh wow, in Cherry Grove. Beautiful book. Um and it really um come to the Ice Palace.

SPEAKER_01

We have a great season, okay. It's kind of my life story right there.

SPEAKER_04

Well, we're gonna have to rent out the Ice Palace. Um, right now we're just waiting for we're trying to attach a big star to raise money off of that, and then hopefully that movie will be produced.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah. You can't go with Timothy Chalamet anymore.

SPEAKER_04

I'm gonna play the younger lover. Oh, okay. Well, we gotta hurry up. We really gotta hurry up. How old are you? That is none of your business. I can look it up. I'm 37. I can look it up. I've been around for a long time.

SPEAKER_02

You have, but you you have this great career, right? Are you happy with it?

SPEAKER_04

Thank you. I am very happy with it. Yeah, yeah. I like uh it's been eclectic, which I like.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, totally. Um, you're an eclectic guy. I can tell.

SPEAKER_04

Is that one of our new vocabulary words?

SPEAKER_02

No, it's a pretty common word on Ask. We're not gonna go crazy. Eclectics, pretty common. You're not gonna give me the dazzle. No, we don't do it. We don't do it for words that are everyday words. Come on, Nick.

unknown

Come on.

SPEAKER_02

Come on, we're not stupid. Let's punch up here, Gideon. Come on, totally. Super califragilistic exbialadocious. That's not even a that's not even a fucking word. Let's made a billion dollars. I bet it's a word. I pay every time I pay for that harp. You pay Whitney. I have to pay for it. We have rights to that harp. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. All right. You know what we're gonna do, uh, we're gonna do with you right now? Uh-oh. We have a read, we actually have listeners. Okay.

SPEAKER_04

Um first of all, congrats. That's amazing.

SPEAKER_02

If we eventually when we uh start publishing these or putting these out there, the people start listening. But no, we have a reader here, and I want to read it to you, and I want your advice on this, all right? Because I think you're a smart enough guy that can figure it out. Are you ready? You can read it. I want to see it. I want to see if you can read. Let's do uh Gideon Glick book on tape. Watch this. He was like, What if he did it like they do in that movie where he's just like we are Michelle?

SPEAKER_01

Sound it out, sound it out.

SPEAKER_04

No. Um, okay, letter. Okay, hold on, here we go. Letter from a reader.

SPEAKER_01

You're a trigger warning. Hi that oh shit. You're a trigger warning with a letter from a reader. Okay, reader of Jesus.

SPEAKER_04

Honey, do you want to read it?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, no, thanks. You want to read already? You're a trigger warning with a letter from a reader by Gideon Glick.

SPEAKER_04

Hi there, big dick daddies. Longtime listener, first time caller. I'm ready to get your hot take on Metro Weekly's coverage of the nine men arrested while attempting to board the Atlantis cruise in Miami. Specifically, they chose to publish each person's name alongside the crimes they've been charged with. Yes. Bringing and selling meth in our community is heinous. But is Metro Weekly crossing a line by publishing the names of people This is in the starred, not quoted, accused of crimes the way outlets used to after the way outlets used to after raids on Fire Island? Trust me, I'm no fan of meth. But this made me feel triggered. Give me that deep dish, like you give the boys that daddy D. Wow, are all your letters like this?

SPEAKER_02

Alright, I wanna I wanna see can you do it again with feeling? Because what that was dead. Yeah, I need some motivation. That was dead behind this. That was dead.

SPEAKER_04

I didn't realize I was gonna get direction and criticism here.

SPEAKER_02

I thought this was like you're afraid that I'm about to jump on you and force some of this daddy D on you.

SPEAKER_04

Well, what do you want from this?

SPEAKER_02

I want you to feel like right now, like you're about to get pounced on by a 190 pound man while you're being giant.

SPEAKER_04

But what do you want my subtext to be when I'm reading this?

SPEAKER_02

You kind of want it. No, I'm kidding. No, I'm kidding. You did a great job.

SPEAKER_03

Hi there, big, big daddies. Full-time listener. I'm a first-time caller. I'm just ready to get your hot take on Metro Weekly's coverage of the nine men arrested while attempting to board the Atlantis Crews in Miami.

SPEAKER_01

Thank you. We'll call you. Okay, bye. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03

I never got commercials.

SPEAKER_04

I never got commercials. Now I know why. I know.

SPEAKER_02

So anyway, the the reader is asking basically the guys that were in um that were busted on the Atlanta Screws. You know about this, right? Yeah, my Instagram was just feeding into me. Exactly. Um they posted the names of the guys. Okay. Here's my take on it, and I'll just show mine first. Yeah, say yours first. If we can't know the people on the in the Epstein files, they're being redacted. Thank you. That's exactly where I am. Yeah. Then why are we publishing these guys' names? First of all, alleged. Second of all, innocent until proven guilty. And also, what's what's the point of it? Yeah. But then again, I guess you post the names of people that are accused, you know, usually. But I I don't know. I just feel a little bit like it's a little like Should they even be guilty?

SPEAKER_01

Should they even be guilty though? Like Atlantis Cruise is 21 and over. You're talking about all adults. You know, it's not like they're on there like gangbanging, they're not like selling to kids on a street block when we have drug problems in almost every American city. Right. We have fentanyl, we have prescribed addiction through like Ritalin and OxyContin and whatnot. And you have these pharmacy companies paying basically into a military budget, and these guys weren't even charged. And there's their faces, their names, where they worked was released. Totally.

SPEAKER_04

See, do they just not try to hide it?

SPEAKER_01

What do you mean? The drugs? I think they just hit it poorly. I don't think they're stupid enough to just be like, I'm gonna take a tank top and some booty shorts, uh, my pound of meth, my harness. So long question, how long have you been doing meth Gideon?

SPEAKER_04

Um It's been about two hours.

SPEAKER_02

Because you're really snatched.

SPEAKER_04

Why'd you get a hit?

SPEAKER_02

By the way, we do have a caller coming in in a minute.

SPEAKER_04

A caller?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we do, right? Yeah. We we do a lot here. We do a lot. So what is your take on this? And then we're gonna take our caller. Because we have a caller from Las Vegas.

SPEAKER_04

What is my take? I don't really have I'll be honest, I don't have a strong opinion.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

I'm in Sibylite, I don't care. I get to get my ass out and I'm getting pounded by a bunch of guys that cheese made. I'm good to go.

SPEAKER_00

But no, to Gideon's point, to Gideon's point, though, like if it's adults using drugs, like it's adults using drugs.

SPEAKER_04

Like sort of how I I feel like uh uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Between like like child sex trafficking rings, just sex trafficking rings, and you know, Epstein files like you had mentioned, like they're really total pole. Yeah, we're smalling fry fish, as Daniel says. Yeah, totally. We're smalling fry fish, is what I said. That's why we're frying small fish.

SPEAKER_04

We honestly, I don't think either of us neither one of you caught it. Did you know? But you're gullible and you know, I'm also snow deaf.

SPEAKER_02

But also when heat speaks, it's like a series of clicks and whistles. I don't hear anything.

SPEAKER_04

You beat me to it. My arms are just any longer. Or is there a door closing or something? Oh, Patty Lapoon's here.

SPEAKER_02

I bet I will admit you give her one boobalie woman. She sounds like foghorn leghorn sometimes. She's a tuba.

SPEAKER_04

She's a tuba. She's a tuba.

SPEAKER_02

She played the tuba in earning Sweeney Tweet. No, she didn't even have one. She had triangle. She had a triangle, too. I love that woman so much. So we're gonna take a break. We're speaking with Gideon Glick, who is uh my future ex-husband. It's crazy. He's gonna be married three times. I know, totally. Twice with me. We're very rich in person.

SPEAKER_01

I was gonna do who wore it out best.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah, totally. We could do that.

SPEAKER_01

Who wore it out best?

SPEAKER_02

We could do that. Tonight's the night, idiot. We'll be right back at trigger warning.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god, there's so much going on right now. I know your pound has arrived. My brother has adopted every dog in Zipalus.

SPEAKER_04

This dog is so sweet. Come on, you want to come up here?

SPEAKER_02

You want to come here? You want to come here?

SPEAKER_04

What's the dog's name?

SPEAKER_02

Uh not my dog. Browse? No, it's walking around. Browse comes in. When the door is open, it just walks in.

SPEAKER_04

But it has a collar, so it belongs to somebody. Someone, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I call the dog Browse because the neighborhood kids used magic marker one time and gave it these big. Oh my god, it had brought to marks. Yeah, yeah. Totally. Um, so uh what what was left? Uh we've got trigger warnings left. And anything Gideon might want to talk about considering we just talked complete fucking nonsense the entire time.

SPEAKER_02

Do you want to talk about something? No. What's what's laying heavy on your heart right now?

SPEAKER_04

I have to go home tomorrow.

SPEAKER_02

You don't. You don't have to.

SPEAKER_04

I don't have to. But I haven't been in New York for two and a half months.

SPEAKER_02

Watch the Oscars with. It's overrated.

SPEAKER_04

No, I love New York. Watch the Oscars. I love New York too.

SPEAKER_02

But like right now is it's cold.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it's cold. It's 27 degrees or something like that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, me too. Us as well.

SPEAKER_04

Oh yeah, we all do.

SPEAKER_01

Anytime I do anytime I do winter. Oh, I'm glad you said it. Cheers. Oh my god, the Kuba Libra is the best thing ever. Alright, so Gideon's hot as fuck. Um, do you find the guys down here hot? Sometimes. Wait, sexually hot as fuck? Yeah, he's hot as hot. He's under our AC. You know, last temperature hot.

SPEAKER_04

Last summer I found them hotter.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_04

I think uh but I also I found I liked the people more last summer.

SPEAKER_01

You mean last season? There's no one here in the summer.

SPEAKER_04

Sorry, you're right, last March. Jesus.

SPEAKER_01

But it felt like summer. What is time? It felt like summer. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Um but guys are hot, yeah.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Guys on Fire Island are really hot. Yeah, it's overwhelming. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Do you spend a lot of time out there in the summer?

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. So we have friends who own a house there, and we they're so generous. So we stay with them a lot. And then we rent a house maybe two or three weeks as well.

SPEAKER_01

Nice. Please always feel free to come by my house. I'm at oh shit. I probably shouldn't air that on the podcast. No one's listening. Listener, don't come to the house.

SPEAKER_04

I wanted it to be that. Paddle against everyone.

SPEAKER_01

All right, so I've I've got I've got a trigger. Speaking of like summer and temperature. Uh I feel like you and I have only talked about it, and I hope I haven't said it on the podcast before because we sometimes repeat our triggers. Because we're not that angry, but a lot of um the feels the feels like people piss me off. Feels like? Yeah. It's 88 degrees today, but it feels like 95.

SPEAKER_02

Who's the one that changes it out?

SPEAKER_01

First of all, it's 88 fucking. I mean, the weather app says that yeah, but who goes out? It feels like 95. From when? Like when you were 18 on the farm, and like, oh no, I remember 100 degree days. It feels like it's 100.

SPEAKER_04

What if they say, like, oh, but it feels worse than that? Are you okay with that? No, it just it is what it is. Okay, it is what it is.

SPEAKER_01

It's it's 27 degrees, feels like negative five. No, it's fucking cold. It's below freezing.

SPEAKER_04

Right.

SPEAKER_01

You know, for our Fahrenheit people, Celsius would be zero. Yeah. You know, and it's like the other day it was 88 degrees or 90 degrees in Zipoli Day, and they're like, but feels like 98. No, this is what 90 feels like. When it's 98, it's gonna be horrendous. Yeah, totally. And don't tell me it feels like 110.

SPEAKER_02

Totally.

SPEAKER_01

Fuck you.

SPEAKER_02

You don't have a lot of anger, do you? Because I have a lot more than that. My trigger is literally about to get us cancelled.

SPEAKER_04

You do new trigger every time. Yeah, totally. Every time. A lot of stuff triggers.

SPEAKER_02

A lot of stuff triggers us, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

He's a he's a 59-year-old white man.

SPEAKER_04

Life has been so hard for you. So sorry.

SPEAKER_02

His access to humanity is good. You know what my trigger right now is this. It's like I'm going through this thing right now where uh, you know, I'm posting stuff about this restaurant or things I'm doing in Mexico. And I thought to myself My trigger's about to be you tapping your fingers on this day. I'm not tapping my fingers. I'm looking at my beautiful hands. I should have been a hand model because I've done a lot of hand jobs. So anyway, um, this is an old drag queen joke. Giddy and you're hiring? Yeah, totally. You know the old drag queen jokes like uh kitty's already in the position. It's like a woman who's drinking. Bring in the model. Yeah, totally. You know old drag queen jokes, like you know, woman who drinks beer on the beach gets sand in her schlitz. I love old drag queen. Anyone here from Queens? I'm from normal parents myself. I'm from Queens.

SPEAKER_04

What's your trigger?

SPEAKER_02

I'm so tired of posting things and people being like, you know, oh, you're you know, part of the problem because I've been working on trying to do things down here in Mexico. When I gave up nightlife in New York to some degree, I've moved on from it. I don't really do it as much as I used to because my whole thing was I wanted to like move into my next thing. So I moved down here in Mexico, and then people are like, you're part of the problem. And it's like, well, didn't like a lot of Mexicans are attacking me right now. Not a Mexicans, but like people just like upset. They don't really know what we're doing, they just see something and attack. And it's like, it's okay for you to move to Mexico to want to improve your life, which ostensibly a lot of them are doing, would want to do. But if we do it in reverse, then suddenly we're the great colonizer. And as I mentioned before, no, I'm not a colonizer, I'm a colonizer. What a way to reduce that to such a shitty line, right? Yeah, you're like, yeah, yeah. But but no, I'm tired of people just I'm really annoyed by people that just like feel like they can comment and dump on anything that anyone else is creating. And I have to realize I do it as well, and I have to stop doing it. Right.

SPEAKER_01

But I you know, when people annoy me, nobody should be yucking anyone's yum. I mean, there's a difference between like our funny idea of like triggers and stuff like this. But uh, you know, you talked about it on an earlier podcast, and I think there's validation in your trigger right now. Like we are hardworking people, like I don't we don't come from rich families, you know. Like we we found each other, you know, in New York City, kind of like living our own lives. I was 17 when I moved there, and um it's it's not like there's a move uh to Greenpoint is where I moved to camp. And it's uh it's not like we come from like a sack of cash and we're like, oh, we're gonna do it our way and stuff like this. We're hardworking. You got priced out of a beautiful building in Williamsburg. Totally. You got priced out of a beautiful apartment in Berlin, as did I, and you know, my beautiful apartment, Green Point.

SPEAKER_02

And I acknowledge my privilege. I 100% do. Like I understand that. I'm not saying being a white guy is, you know, but I also just that doesn't mean that I'm the enemy.

SPEAKER_01

And mind you, you were approached for the land purchase.

SPEAKER_02

People came to you while you were on holiday. People here have been coming to me nonstop, trying to sell me land because they are gonna make so much more money than they would ever make. And like, for instance, the property we're on right now, the guy was like, I could he set it up so that he could park cabs here and they could use the bathroom back there. And then all of a sudden he realized, wait a minute, I'd be making like, you know, a lot very little money. And so he came to me and said, I would like to sell it to you. And I don't think there's anything yes, we're part of the problem that we're gentrifying, but I'm also trying to figure out like how but you can't call someone how it's all bad. Like, first of all, if I didn't do it, someone else is gonna do it. Rather me.

SPEAKER_01

You can't call someone a gentrifier and then also say, I don't believe in borders. I'm I'm of the human race. And it's like okay, so I went somewhere where I could afford property and build my vision. Oh, the pounds going crazy. Our super smoking hot dentist just arrived. So great. She's a dentist, yeah, yeah. She's the dentist in the back there. I come from a dentist. Also, we're we're giving we're giving people an opportunity. We're not charging the dentist rent. We have a building and we let her move in, and she's a young, aspiring dentist, and we said, hey, start your company here.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's just intense right now. Like, I'm not saying that I'm doing everything perfectly or we are, but like I'm trying to figure out how to solve and and and make something happen in all that exactly. And the US right now is not where I want to be.

SPEAKER_01

No, it's not everyone, everyone hates what's going on. We're a war-mongering country, and you know, we left. We we emigrated and we started our lives elsewhere. And people are like, oh, you're white guys that are colonizing just because the color of our skin we're colonizers. No, we left a nation we no longer feel safe or want to be a part of, and we're starting our life elsewhere. Totally.

SPEAKER_02

So, Gideon, what do you hate? It reminds me of Kath and Kim. You've seen it?

SPEAKER_04

No, I haven't. Oh, that went dead. Josh, cut it. Josh, cut it.

SPEAKER_02

We're only gonna try and make him look good. He's gonna cut it and it'll be just be like, Leah, Michelle, can't read.

SPEAKER_05

Can't remember.

SPEAKER_02

He'll be it'd just be like, Leah, Michelle can't read. Like we're just gonna put words in my mouth. Yeah, totally just cut it up.

SPEAKER_04

So it's like Um What do I hate?

SPEAKER_02

Um, I'm don't say what you hate. What triggers you?

SPEAKER_04

What triggers me is I think it should be illegal for somebody to walk into the elevator before you walk out, and into the subway before you walk out. And I think it should be illegal to stop on the stairwell. I think if we have red lights, I think it should be illegal.

SPEAKER_02

I think like deported to El Salvador to those prisons.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, go to Rikers.

SPEAKER_02

Crocodile Alcatraz or something.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, alligator Alcatraz.

SPEAKER_04

It gives me a lot of anxiety. And I uh I kind of feel like if we we adhere to green lights and red lights and yellow lights, like why can't we just like let people out of the door before you walk in a door?

SPEAKER_01

Everywhere else in the world, you know, everyone stands on the right of an escalator and walks on the left. In the US, it's just it's a hodgepodge of lazy fox.

SPEAKER_04

It's just not be a big thing.

SPEAKER_01

People walking in New York City like four abreast at the slowest pace.

SPEAKER_04

It's crazy. I just came back from London and boarding an airplane was so efficient. Like they actually made a real cue for your group. Whereas coming to London from America, it was like the white walkers. Everybody was just, it was a mob.

SPEAKER_01

You run off an airplane, don't you though?

SPEAKER_02

Well, you also fly, you fly first class, right? You're like, you know, you you only get whisked in like Donatella.

SPEAKER_04

Uh if it's for work, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

And if Perry's buying the tickets for me, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

You know what to do, Babs. What's the most amount of money you've ever made in one gig? Do you have to give us a number? Just give us the zeros. I said that like a drunk person.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, on a what's the most amount of money?

SPEAKER_04

On a twelve, because I was a writer and an actor, I I had two salaries. Yeah, okay, great. And that was very nice. Patty doesn't care about Yeah, Patty doesn't care about money.

SPEAKER_02

Just let it whittle and just let it run. This has devolved into madness. And it isn't always like this, I promise. Next time you're on.

SPEAKER_04

Have we drunk too much?

SPEAKER_01

It's that fucking booba libra.

SPEAKER_04

Well, it's also like what? It's like one o'clock? What is it right now? I've just had breakfast.

SPEAKER_01

I've I've I looked at a tamale menu.

SPEAKER_02

You guys are listening to Trigger Warning Menu. All right, now I think we're I thought that was good, right? Now we're gonna do the real one. All right, great. All right, all right. So our guest today was in Sprinkle. I feel like we've got him, we've got him this close to Cheese May. Oh, we're gonna soak at him in Cheese May. I'm gonna get him to change his flight just because he's not gonna wake up for it. Take those shorts off and fucking. It's hot in here, isn't it, getting played?

SPEAKER_04

When people get to cheese may what? What times of cheese may start? Right after playa Domin.

SPEAKER_02

9 30 is the witching hour when it suddenly changes. Right.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, so it's like after it's like after the playa. People have dinner and they go to cheese.

SPEAKER_02

You can douche, you know.

SPEAKER_04

Right. People go right after a full meal. They just go right to cheese maybe they're close.

SPEAKER_01

Those are the tops.

SPEAKER_04

Those are the what?

SPEAKER_01

Those are the tops. The tops eat. The tops have a full meal and go right to cheese. Privilege, man. Total. Yeah, forget being a colonizer. Call me a fucking nasty top.

SPEAKER_04

Well, it's just like, you know, bottoms need to plan, and tops don't want to plan. I think it's it's fucked up. Yeah. And I'm gonna go now.

SPEAKER_01

This has been trigger warning.

SPEAKER_02

Gideon, thank you so much. Thank you for having me. You've eviscerated a good hour. We told you 15 minutes. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely, yeah. But we're gonna keep going.

SPEAKER_00

We don't want to let you go. Never let go, Jack.

SPEAKER_02

No, seriously. Thank you so much for doing this. We adore, I adore you. I don't even think you're fancy. Seriously, this has been really fun. Thank you guys for listening. And we will be back. Uh we have Ari coming up and uh Jimbo in the next couple episodes. Keep listening. And then we get back to Fire Island. Oh my god, yeah. Oh my god, we have such a season. John Waters, Jimbo, Dina Martina, Barla Jean Merman, Margaret Cho, Adam Pascal Pascal, and Anthony Rapp. We have a whole season.

SPEAKER_01

We have DJs like Carrie Nation and Boris from Berghein. It's gonna be really great. Yeah, totally. All right, thank you, Gideon. Bye guys. Ciao. Woo! Trigger Warning, hosted by Dalen Ardiccio and Adam Meathammer Clesh, is a Pride House media production and produced by Josh Rottenzweig. Please note the views reflected in this podcast do not represent the views of Red Eye, the Ice Palace, or any of its subsidiaries. And any reference to scat, shrimping, upproductor, skanks, masturbating, rump riding, wolfbagging, cleaving steamers, jigglypuffing, rusty trombones, cosby sweaters, Mexican pancakes, and Alabama Hot Pockets are the views of Mr. Ardicho, Mr. Clesh, and his listeners, not the establishment. If you are offended, please seek immediate psychiatric attention.

SPEAKER_02

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