Big Tits, Clown Drag & Sandy Hand Jobs | Jimbo (ONLY) on Trigger Warning

This week on Trigger Warning, we welcome the unhinged genius herself — Jimbo, winner of RuPaul’s Drag Race All Stars 8 and now a permanent judge on Canada’s Drag Race: Canada’s Drag Race All Stars — and things spiral immediately.

We’re recording from Zepolita (yes, the nude beach, yes, that energy), so naturally we discuss nudity, Playa del Amor fire dancers, Burning Man delusion, and why the air feels spiritually charged and mildly illegal.

Then we enter the fever dream that is the House of Jimbo — maximalist drag, high‑fashion clown horror, weaponized camp, and breasts so large they’ve launched think pieces. We talk about clown school (because of course), macabre comedy, social commentary, and why people absolutely lose their minds over oversized tits on a drag queen.

And then.

The Trigger round. 

Jimbo’s trigger?

Sandy. Hand. Jobs.

We are talking grit. Texture. Friction. Exfoliation no one asked for.
 There are sensory details. There is emotional damage.
 There is absolutely no recovery.

Somewhere between Fire Island fantasy and public‑beach regret, we lose control of the conversation entirely — which is exactly how it should be.

This episode has:
 Drag Race discourse.
 Clown philosophy.
 Internet cancellation therapy.
 Beach‑adjacent trauma.

And the kind of chaos that requires a shower after listening.

You’ve been warned.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_07 0:05

What happens when you let Enfanturible, now just terrible, Daniel Nardicho, off his leash to say and do whatever he wants?

SPEAKER_08 0:13

The man who has offended everyone is back. Along with my brother from another mother, Adam Klesh, we're back with our latest creation, Trigger Warning. A podcast that is not for the faint of heart. Prepare to be offended, enlightened, and highly entertained. Trigger Warning is not a safe space podcast, but answers the questions no one wants to ask. Serves deep in vodka and a dash of bitter. Each week we'll bring you the highest and lowest in NYC nightlife. So buckle up, you've been warned. This is one of my favorite drag queens of all time, but also one of my favorite people now.

SPEAKER_04 0:55

Wow.

SPEAKER_08 0:55

We were in Mizunte today driving around, tooling around in Mazumpe. Mazunte is magical. It really is, isn't it? Yeah. I love it. She's considered a drag clown, but I think of her as more than that. I think of her as like blending high fashion, macabre, clowning, uh the French art of clowning, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:15

All of that.

SPEAKER_03 1:15

Oh, force, I'm Pat French Canadienne.

SPEAKER_06 1:18

We we from BC. No, but I think actually the um the method of clowning I was taught, Le Lecoq method. I know the Lecoq method, yeah. Um there is some French origin there.

SPEAKER_08 1:29

Yeah, totally. Um well anyway, she is uh she's one of the we've had a few winners on. The show. Drag Reach. Sorry, I was just waiting for that motorcycle to go back. We're we we live on a road here. We're on a road here. We expect a little bit of a Alaska Thunderfuck was on. Alaska Thunderfuck. We had Bianca Del Rio who canceled all the time, but that's Bianca. Yeah, eventually she'll be on. Yeah, that's my trigger. That's my trigger there. Especially she didn't cancel on her season. She's the worst. Sorry, I can't make it when it comes to showing up to think she's the worst. But I'm really excited about this person because Exactly fuck that bitch. They are the winner of RuPaul's drag race All-Star season eight. Let's bring her to the microphone, Jimbo! Ooh. Oh, and the crowd goes wild. And the crowd goes wild. Hola signora.

SPEAKER_07 2:18

And I feel like those titties deserve a little. Wow, you really can coordinate them really well. That's great. It's a burlesque trick.

SPEAKER_08 2:27

It's a like burlesque trick, too. They can make them, you know. Dirty Martini can do that. No, Jimbo does not have dirty feet.

SPEAKER_07 2:33

She's not like a burlesque girl. Yeah. It's one of our triggers here on the show is every burlesque girl has needs to wash her feet.

SPEAKER_03 2:38

Trick or treat, dirty feet.

SPEAKER_08 2:40

So, Jimbo, you've been in Zipelite almost a week now.

SPEAKER_03 2:44

Wow.

SPEAKER_08 2:45

It goes by fast. What is your take for everything?

SPEAKER_06 2:48

I know we talked about heaven. It really is a little slice of paradise. There's nothing like it. Yeah. The gays, the they's the allies, everyone is out, they're naked, they're enjoying the sun, and there's such a relaxed, soulful vibe. It's regenerative.

SPEAKER_08 3:04

And you go uh around the world. You've been everywhere, right? Or a lot of places.

SPEAKER_06 3:08

Yeah, I go around the world shaking these big old titties on my baloney and causing chaos.

SPEAKER_08 3:15

What reminded you of Zippelite? Like, have you seen something like it in Spain or Germany or thank you? Uh have you had that feeling somewhere else, or is this like unique to you? I'm just wondering, we're gonna talk a little about Zipelite before we get to you, because you've talked about drag race. I don't want to talk about drag race. You've talked about it for ages.

SPEAKER_06 3:32

I mean, we you know, if it comes up, it comes up. But I think um what I get, the sense that that's making me think of another place I've been is Burning Man with all the art, with all the the ideas of these camps where people are kind of being free, and there's this sense of just um yeah, just artful, soulful expression that feels that this place has that magic. And that speaks to you. I love it. I love the idea of creating a space for yourself that you share with others, and that you kind of pour yourself into that space, and then by pouring yourself into it, you attract your people, and um it's like fruit for butterflies, and you just attract your your butterflies, your friends.

SPEAKER_07 4:11

We were done at Plail Domore together, and it was just like we were loving how free everyone was, and like obviously everyone's nude and hanging out, and like, but there's just this like it's not like an orgy yet, right? So it's everyone just hanging out, being fine with their body, going for a little dip, hang in the sun, having a cocktail, bottle of water, and then like the lights go down and they bring all the candles out. So already the people in the town who run the business are like setting a vibe they don't have to, right? Like, you don't get anything from buying candles and putting them into cups and whatnot, and setting a vibe there, and they do it anyways, and then the fire dancers come out, and you can tell they're total burner style, right? Like these hippies, and they do this whole show, everyone cheers, gives them tips, and it's like it's almost traditional, you know? It's like people going to the dock on Fire Island and watching the sunset and clapping.

SPEAKER_08 4:55

It's like you go to Plow Domoris, or no, more to like HTTP or whatever it's called. Yeah, five H T Pive H T P. Yeah, these parties that happen in the meat rack, which is just like they do it for no reason because they're not gonna make money at it.

SPEAKER_06 5:06

Right.

SPEAKER_08 5:06

You know what I mean? It was just fascinating.

SPEAKER_06 5:08

Well, there's something primal about bodies, nudity, and fire that is just it tickles something special where you're just like, oh, this is back back to the roots. It's humanity. It's humanity, and just by seeing people just being themselves, there's something regenerative and restorative about it. To go, oh yeah, okay, like it's okay to be naked, it's okay to be free, it's okay to not be ashamed of your body, to just release yourself of all that and just go, I'm here and I'm present and I'm enjoying all of this.

SPEAKER_07 5:34

And you felt that at Cheese May as well, like Daniel's cheers. Like, there's something great about being in just a social bar, there's no drag show, there's no dance floor, whatever. It's just everyone's naked, so like it's not like, oh, I like your shirt or which I love. It's more like I like your dick. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

SPEAKER_08 5:50

But even that isn't like it isn't overtly sexual, except if you go in the back area, which I kind of love. But I could go on the butt cheese made for hours. But what I want to talk about is what you know, I I've known you for a long time, and which was one of the reasons two years ago I really wanted to get you on Fire Island. It was, I saw this video about the house of Jimbo. Oh, yeah. And it was about where you live. Yeah. And then you ended up reaching out. Ah, somehow I know nothing about that. Oh, it's incredible.

SPEAKER_06 6:16

Yeah, it's my studio in Chinatown, Victoria. I live in an old gambling den that is filled with treasures. Obsessed. So incredible.

SPEAKER_07 6:24

Do you have like jade lions and mahjong tiles?

SPEAKER_03 6:26

Yeah, I do. Yeah, actually, I do.

SPEAKER_08 6:28

And it's like what I love, it's the Moors Moor. Like there's like what you know, because you stayed in my place in the news. Very similar. Very similar. But even I was less than. Oh, there's a lot of crap around. Yeah, there's a lot of crap. But everything's meaningful. Yeah, no, absolutely. And then this numbers. I bust your balls because I have a very different style. Oh, totally. His looks like a hotel room that you get, like a Marriott.

SPEAKER_06 6:50

Just lube and clean towels.

SPEAKER_08 6:52

Yeah, it looks like, oh, don't stay in the sheets. We can't afford them. Right. But then what I loved is I got back to my house after Jimbo stayed for like a month at my place. And I got back to my place, and there was like a Jimbo doll peeking out over a curtain. Like there were two Jimbo dolls and these giant breasts hanging out over here. Like she had incorporated her Jimbo things in my apartment so that I didn't even notice it. I called Sam and I said, Sam, you're the because Sam, obviously, Sam's a big drag race fan that loves you and stuff, and Sam's the best, right? And I was like, this is the cutest thing ever. And he was kind of a little like, oh my God, I'm so jealous.

SPEAKER_07 7:26

You got these moments. You're like my friends Joe and Ian. Like, you have a suitcase that's just like the handkerchief that goes over the lamp. But this was like a major.

SPEAKER_08 7:37

It's like an elf on a shelf. These giant tits hanging amongst my other stuff. And I didn't notice it for two days because I have all this lots of men jets of them. But I love your but there's a part of me that wants to experience your life in British Columbia. Uh Victoria, British Columbia. BC. Yeah. Yeah. The gambling den. You guys have talked about it. It's like it sounds like.

SPEAKER_07 7:58

Oh, we'll take a train. It'll take us four days. I love what you're gonna do. He loves to take me like on buses and trains. I like let's go to Montreal.

SPEAKER_08 8:05

We're gonna take the bus and then like it's like bitch eight hours later.

SPEAKER_07 8:10

This broken down greyhound that like stops in Albany and it's full of just shit and just smells kind of funny. Yeah. But this video we gotta come visit you.

SPEAKER_08 8:19

But the video is like you see it and you go, This is someone who it's I maximalism is my thing, but also it's not when it's boring maximalism. You have like everything has a meaning or I've made a lot of it, I've collected it. You have a wall of clowns, and you know I love clowns.

SPEAKER_06 8:35

You love clowns, and that's we connect over clowns, art, dicks, yeah, which is good times, connect over wieners and sunshine. That's cheese made, basically. Spring break. No, but I love collecting things. I love surrounding myself with my art, with drag, with things that are sparkly, with things that are beautiful. Um, I think your partner the same? Does he get into the decoration of all? He loves collecting things. Because you're both burners. Yeah, we're both burners, we're both artists, we both love beautiful things. And um when we got together, he was very much about, you know, I had some of my collection kind of packed away and kind of hid it away because I didn't want to overclutter this space. And um when we got together, he said, get it all out, fill it up, like let's get more shelves. Like I was like, What? He's like, Yeah, like I love you. I was like, I love you, let's get into it. So he's like, Yeah, I love it. And so it just kind of exploded and snowballed from there of more as more. And then just by being an artist and collecting things and a set designer, I brought, you know, I when I would make sets or costumes or props in the end, I would keep them and kind of surround myself with them for the memories and for the vibes.

SPEAKER_08 9:39

Well, that's kind of what you know, today we were talking when we were in Bizunta, and I was saying, you know, it's been I've been going through a little bit of a difficult time here the last few days, which is just not having my things. You know, living in a place that you can have your things. When I go back to my apartment and I look around, it's like all of these like moments, and I'm and I guess that's what's kind of missing. I put a bunch of pictures up here at Zip66, and they're not even people I know. So I bought fake family photos and putting our non-existent. Oh, that's Adam at our prom. You know, that Adam when he went to the prom. That's Adam with the bull cut up there, the girl. I see that's Adam. Like I lie, but it's because it's so funny to me. But I just uh I loved I missed that. That's what I missed. And like I think there's something about that connection. And especially for someone like you, you travel, you said today you were only home for 30 days last year.

SPEAKER_06 10:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 10:31

How do you keep your sanity?

SPEAKER_06 10:33

Well, that is my sanity because I love the chaos. I love being on the road. I love like figuring shit out, going, okay, where am I? Where did I wake up? Where do I find a bathroom and find something to eat? Or like with us, where do I find a shower? Find a shower. You're living with us and like literally you have to go. We walk down to the pool.

SPEAKER_08 10:51

Walk down to the pool to use the pool shower because our shower is less than adequate. Well, they won't fit those tick old biddies.

SPEAKER_06 10:58

It's not bad. I just love the one out by the pool. I don't know. In the sunshine. Well, you get like lukewarm water in the pool one.

SPEAKER_08 11:04

And that's a better shower head. Also, it feels like petticoat junction. There's something really incredible about having to pull, like it's almost like steamboat Willie. You have to pull on this lever to get the shower to come down on you. Everything about Zipolite is so it's very mouth-trapped.

SPEAKER_07 11:19

You would love Burning Man. You would love Burning Man. If this kind of stuff, he's always afraid of like, oh, I don't know. Like this and that. If I could just go like three days and have like an easy set and be in and out, I'm like, you would cry leaving. Oh no, no. But he wouldn't. He would come for three days acting like a princess and be like, oh, I'm gonna stay too. I can handle it. I can I compost here.

SPEAKER_08 11:41

It's not that. I the thing, the thing with it is I make that's the big weekend when I do um Norway. Bathhouse and Beaty. Bathhouse and Beyond in New Orleans. And it's I mean, I hate to sound like a capitalist against Burning Man, but it's a big weekend for me to make money and I can make it. You're ready to pass it off. You've got to be able to get it off. I think this actually this year I could. I gotta figure out who's gonna be the bet.

SPEAKER_06 12:01

I have to apologize for that. I was I was on tour and they made me cancel. Or as they say in the biz, she got a better offer. She got a better offer. I did not. I was made to say no. But I heard that you got someone that fired ping pong balls at other place. Oh my god, can I tell you the story? We were supposed to see you in New Orleans. I said, Oh, I'm they said, but you canceled. I said, Oh my god, I'm so sorry. And they said, You were replaced by a woman that flung her douchewater on me. I was like, What? She said, Yeah, she douched and she flung it on me. I was like, Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 12:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_08 12:36

Like, wow. Excuse me. The story is this when you canceled, I thought, I have to do something so that I can get people talking because people will always be like, Well, Jimbo wasn't there. Let's say there was a scheduling conflict. I don't think Jimbo would ever cancel. No, I yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, totally, totally. And I trust me, I didn't get it. You know, when you said it, you were so cool about it. So then I booked Mouse from London. She does the box, and Mouse and I've worked together a bunch of times. Sam will like literally, he's not here right now. He would leave the room if I mentioned Mouse because she sprays pussy water all over the drinks at Club Coming. Oh, she throws dog food at people. So what happened? She didn't throw dog food. What happened was she does a number. I never know what she's gonna do. So we get to New Orleans. I said, Whatever I want you, whatever you do, do not uh shoot pussy water at the audience because this is a bunch of gay men, and it's like New Orleans, and the Southern guys are a little less sophisticated, they're not at the box.

SPEAKER_06 13:28

It's like holy water for vampires.

SPEAKER_08 13:30

Exactly. Exactly.

SPEAKER_07 13:31

So long story short, I didn't have an opportunity to buy my pawn show for the splash zone.

SPEAKER_08 13:36

And she talks like Eliza Doolittle before she learned English.

SPEAKER_00 13:39

And she's like, no problem, you know, and she's like my pussy won't talk to myself. Exactly. So then she decides to do this number.

SPEAKER_08 13:47

She comes out as a beagle and she sits in this like bowl, and she's like, it's like, how much is that dog in the window? And then she pulls out dog food and smears it all of her body body, but it was actually chocolate pudding. And she started throwing it to the audience. Then she starts bathing, and she's sitting in a giant, you know, bowl bathing, pours the water from the chocolate and the with her bathing herself into her vagina and then shoots it around the room. And the thing is, it was the busiest bet bath husband beyond I'd ever have. Maybe because you were supposed to be there. I don't know. But like literally, people were screaming and slipping on the floor. And I was running around with towels thinking this is gonna be the end of my career. I actually wonder this year if I'm gonna take a huge hit financially because last year was such a big deal. Maybe we should just go to Burning Man.

SPEAKER_07 14:33

People sell your five tickets to be happy.

SPEAKER_08 14:41

And then there were other people that were like, um, you know, Daniel, you know what he was gonna do. Yeah, it was you know, blah, blah, blah. So it was like kind of like a thing.

SPEAKER_06 14:48

Well, you can tell them I was gonna do something even worse. Yeah, exactly. Exactly, exactly. But anyway, that's why I don't go to Burning. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_07 14:55

My boyfriend, my boyfriend Alex was there working for Daniel. Oh, that's right. And he yeah, I was talking to him on the phone and he said he saw a mouse backstage. He goes, Um, I'm just taking a quick break. Do you do you need anything? She goes, I need to get on stage. I got a can of tomato soup, but me bum. And he said he knew he was in for it. Then he was like, I don't know what she's gonna do with it or why it's up there. She does this. I'm gonna get back to coaching.

SPEAKER_08 15:16

At the beginning of it, I forget, she does this crazy thing where she has a bottle of beer with a you know, lid on, and she walks around going, Anyone have an opener? Like, um, she's screaming at anyone have an opener. And they don't, so she reaches into her ass and pulls out a bottle opener and then opens up the beer, and then she sprays it on the audience. The whole thing is she all she does is spray it on the audience. And I was like, Mouse, the one thing I asked, she's like, Don't bottle me sunshine.

SPEAKER_07 15:46

Peace meat back and tell me it's raining. We got a squirt her. Yeah. Do you do anything foul like that?

SPEAKER_06 15:52

Have you ever had a foul act? Um, I've done some pretty foul things, but always but that's your personal life. I think always um always supply it to more.

SPEAKER_07 16:04

I mean, like her dog food was like like chocolate and chocolate. It was chocolate butty.

SPEAKER_08 16:09

But she put it in a can so people were freaked out.

SPEAKER_06 16:11

No, I love that. No, he did mention the dog food too.

SPEAKER_08 16:13

I might have her open for you on Fire Island.

SPEAKER_00 16:15

I think you know, I would love that.

SPEAKER_08 16:16

But you would really lose it for her. She's probably to send Sam on holiday. She's like this tall, and she just like, I don't know how she does. She's like 60 and she manages to stick so many things in her body.

SPEAKER_06 16:27

Goals, life goals.

SPEAKER_07 16:29

What's what's what's the worst pretend thing you've done?

SPEAKER_06 16:32

Well, I mean, I did like earlier on, I did this cat number where I was this like half man, half cat, and I rigged up my body with these like tubes to spray milk out of my six titties. Yeah, okay. But you know, I mean that's pretty tame. I I but I bet you got a good shot value. With these granola bars or chocolate bars, and I with like whip them all over the skin and stuff. That's that's mouse like yeah, yeah. I mean it was pretend it wasn't like you know. I didn't know you went to like what like clown clown school. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. With my friend Brett. She's uh a a trained uh clown and director.

SPEAKER_07 17:15

You know, we have a circus in clown school down here in Zipolito, Zircolito is called like literally a few blocks down there. So when you come down and you perform, I that's what I said you should have the performance.

SPEAKER_08 17:24

Well, my thought was my original thought with Jimbo was um because I loved having Jimbo around. It was uh when we opened the restaurant, I said, wouldn't it be fun to have Jimbo come down and be like a waitress? Like come up with a number, but then it's a like a nasty 50s waitress with huge tents. What are you here at?

SPEAKER_05 17:40

What do you want?

SPEAKER_08 17:41

It was you or Sherry Pie, and Sam will hate that.

SPEAKER_02 17:44

Not me or Sherry Pie.

SPEAKER_08 17:45

Sherry Pie and I become friends because we had her on the podcast to talk about the aftermath and what happened in her career, and she's like looking to yeah, I know totally. And she could put together a waitress number, and she was talking about it. And I said, you know.

SPEAKER_06 17:57

She's probably doing a real waitress number every day to make money. I don't know if she put together that number. I think life dealt her that number.

SPEAKER_08 18:07

I think she's kind of figuring it out, though. Yeah, totally. She's opening for you on Fire Islands. I mean, she's she started her apology tour on our podcast. She It was really heartfelt. It was really heartfelt. It was really interesting. I mean, look, we're about uh we're about figuring out we're about seven trying to figure it out. We like that was the that episode which caused a lot of people to like talk about it. Uh, was trying to figure out how the reviews are how long is one cancelled when does some, you know, I mean that's what we're trying to figure out here.

SPEAKER_06 18:37

I think it comes down to like, do you want to be around that person, knowing that that's their vibe? And I think once someone shows your themselves, you kind of are supposed to listen and you're like, okay, you kind of did the thing that's uh very untrustworthy, very creepy, and takes advantage of people's trust. And once you do that and you know that person is capable of that, then you just kind of go, you exist, and I don't wish you any harm, but just exist outside of my realm of existence because I don't want our realms of existence to cross because I don't want what that person does or stands for and or represents or and or is capable of near anything that I trust or love.

SPEAKER_08 19:25

Well put.

SPEAKER_06 19:25

I think that's very fair.

SPEAKER_08 19:27

The question I have is what if someone can they change? Like and can they can they can they clean up, you know. I mean, like someone murders I'm not saying that she murdered, she didn't do it. Someone murders someone. Her career. Like the question is that they're never allowed to work again. You know what I mean? That's what we're trying to figure out here. And that is a much deeper episode when we talk about like, you know, we are talking a lot about cancel culture because there are people that want to cancel me for like the m the most minute things that would love to see me never work again. And we're talking about things like I didn't hire them or stupid memes and stuff like this.

SPEAKER_07 19:59

But yeah, but it's also like I I think Daniel and I in that episode, and I mean this is the last I'll say about, and then we'll we can go to a break or whatever. Um, but it was more about Does the gay community have the capacity and compassion for penance? It's can you change enough? Can you apologize enough? Can you try to write a wrong enough?

SPEAKER_08 20:21

And you as a performer, you could you're in a different place. You can say, I don't want to be around that person. And I totally respect that. The question is, does that person deserve to never be booked again? Because what happened was is that I would see that she would get booked by people in very small ways. And then my friend Jeff, who great friend of mine, Jeff photographer Jeff Eason, he took a picture of her at her Master B party, you know, just like they booked her at the door when you're handing out something at the door. And people went after him and said, How dare you post pictures of her? And I was like, You're trying to cancel a photographer whose job it is to basically document a party. And so that was when I started thinking, like, we're in a now in a world where you can't even document someone. So I'm trying we're trying to figure that out. And we talked about that with her because um, well, next week we have Kevin Spacey and um Okay, but wait, why are you sandwiching me with all these fucking canceled people in front of me?

SPEAKER_04 21:16

Kevin Spacey. I don't know if Kevin Spacey.

SPEAKER_07 21:19

Oh my god, I was like, what? I just I just passed my background check and I will be interviewing uh Gislaine Maxwell. Okay, okay. So it's a decent sandwich. No, we'll keep it light. No, we're gonna go back to drag race.

SPEAKER_08 21:31

We're gonna take a break right now and we'll come back to drag race. Or we'll talk to drag race since I'm in this outfit. We're back at trigger warning. We're talking with Jimbo, the drag clown. I love Jimbo as a queen. I love Jimbo as a person. I want to see what Jimbo is. The thing is, is that I have some people that I love as a drag queen, but I don't love them as people. I have other people that I love as Nikki Dow. Love her is both ways. Nikki's my little sis. Love her. Um, would you ever do. I've you've been asked this before now. But what is it? All winners, all of course.

SPEAKER_06 22:04

I'll do anything. Even kid by the pool. You're very yes hand. No, I love doing stuff. Of course, anytime Mama Rue asks me for anything, I'm there. She wants to be a good thing. So you have a good relationship with Roo, right? I mean, as good as I think as it can be for Mama Rue. Well, I think that Rue's smart. She's probably agreeing.

SPEAKER_08 22:26

Like you can't have all of these people into your inner circle. Don't you agree that if you had these people in your circle, your life would be a complete and utter mess if you were her? You know, I told you this that Ricky uh Ricky, Nikki told me that um when she does Drag Race France, that you can't really make eye contacts with the girls because they all are looking at you like please, please, and trying to get something from you. And she realized after the first season.

SPEAKER_06 22:53

Does she wear pants when she's at the judging table?

SPEAKER_08 22:56

I think I am a judge.

SPEAKER_06 22:58

Nikki now, so if you want, you can ask me what happens behind the desk.

SPEAKER_08 23:01

I was just gonna say that. Now, you are now officially a judge for drag race Canada.

SPEAKER_06 23:07

Yeah, check the tag, honey. It's Couture. Um, yeah, I am. I am a new um permanent judge for Canada's Drake Race All-Stars season one. Yeah, it was so exciting. Thank you. And no, I didn't wear pants by the desk.

SPEAKER_07 23:24

Yeah, and then because every time Ru comes out, Den, Den, Dan, you can always see the seam where the outfit separates. But I don't blame her. I don't blame her. No, I don't blame her at all. I just find it's funny that every single time I'm like, She's over 70.

SPEAKER_08 23:38

I'm surprised she doesn't come out in like a slank it. You're in a onesie. Right. You're in a onesie, you're in a onesie. I would wear a if I was her, I would wear a slank and do it from home on Zoom. Right. I'd have an AI roo. I'd have an AI room behind the glass.

SPEAKER_06 23:52

A roo eye. Um, but yeah, I I think that I did try to make eye contact with the with the contestants from my point of view as a former contestant. I was so comforted by a little bit of eye contact. And I understand, you know, Rue or Brooklyn or Nikki when you're the central judge, you know, it carries a little bit more weight. So I was like, oh, okay, I'm I'm gonna be fun, the fun auntie in the corner. Because Michelle made contact with you. Michelle made contact with you. Michelle was so um, you know, she was just very kind, very motherly, very, you know, she would see her, and you could see her try to try to tell you to to breathe and to you're okay, like calm down. Because the stakes are so high, it's so intense, you're there, you know, depending on what's happening for you in that moment, whether you're gonna compete or or dance or whatever it is that's happening for you, you know, it's it's a lot of nerves.

SPEAKER_08 24:43

And you had a very emotional journey on drag race.

SPEAKER_06 24:47

I would say, yeah, lots of hills and valleys.

SPEAKER_08 24:50

You don't know about this. Adam doesn't really pay attention to the show.

SPEAKER_07 24:53

I I had a question because I was gonna say I don't watch drag race, but I'll get to it.

SPEAKER_08 24:56

Well, though it's like me with um uh Everything I Watch. No, what is it we talk about that I don't watch? Oh, like Broadway people. Like I work with Broadway people and I have to go listen to them because I don't really know them. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 25:07

So with him, I played him in the ball.

SPEAKER_08 25:11

No, I played him earlier your uh Shirley Temple because I knew he hadn't seen it and I wanted him to see it.

SPEAKER_00 25:15

The dirty part of our you would like that. You want to see me dance around. You wouldn't even believe I just moved myself. I'm so cute. Who believe I just shit myself?

SPEAKER_08 25:30

But you're I would say more so than almost most of the contestants. You had like an emotional, I mean the panjay thing. You had like a lot of really big moments, fights, the takes were high. And you were you unliked?

SPEAKER_06 25:43

I um no, I was generally liked, I would say. Okay, but you just weren't taking shit from them. Yeah, misunderstood by the judges at first. At first, um, but the audience, you know, they were on my side, which as a clown, that's that's who you care about. That's who you want.

SPEAKER_07 25:57

Well, because I guess that was my question. So, like, were you doing I I'm not a drag race gay, but I'm I'm a gay bee, and I, you know, came out at 15, spent a lot of time in gay clubs, and I love the art of drag. I I think we agree on that that there's an appreciation. We've known some of the best drag queens in the world that were around before that show ever came out, and some of the worst. Yeah, and some of the worst, and still know some of the worst. Logan. Um, yeah, but no, like I mean, my my dads introduced me to like Dame Edna early on, you know. I I watched all this stuff. It was wonderful, Lakaj off all, um, and then Birdcage and whatnot. Were you doing drag before professional clown school, or was it performance professional clown school, and then that led you into your style of drag art?

SPEAKER_06 26:35

Yeah, I did drag as a child. I was taught that it was very bad, very weird. But so follow up question. My dad was. My dad was. My mom was like, oh yeah, like get into it. Try these heels. But then my dad was like, bad, bad, bad. So um it was something very shameful, and then it wasn't until I became a clown that I allowed myself to start doing um female clown characters that were kind of based off women in my life at the time. Like I did my evil stepmother, Karen, that was my first clown turn. And um, so the the girls I was portraying were not necessarily beauty, they were just kind of funny or grotesque.

SPEAKER_01 27:14

Was that like a healing process?

SPEAKER_06 27:15

Um a little bit, yeah. It was a basic dragon taking my experience and my you know, my life experience and putting it into my art and getting it out. And my mom, she laughed her head off, and she was like, I know exactly who that is. Yeah, she was obsessed. Um that's beautiful. Yeah, thanks. It started like that, and then I basically did a character, Pamela Anderson, for a party. We were having a VIP party, and um can't tell. And I got such a vibe and a response from people, especially when I was turned around facing the other way. They were like, wow, you're like a stone cold 10 from behind.

SPEAKER_04 27:55

Turn around. Jeez, but I was like, okay, like I can fix that. But um behind.

SPEAKER_06 28:04

What did they say about you? I've never heard that from behind it from across the room. But when I was told that, I was like, oh, there's something there. And so um, I loved kind of playing with that, the power of that, and um, and then that kind of led me to allow myself to go, I want to be pretty, I want to be sexy, I want to try on all of that that is not supposed to be for me, that I was taught was not for me. Um, so it's yeah, kind of reclaiming all that and then amplifying it through clownery, which is all about bigger, bigger, more, more, and it's about creating a mirror for society, and it's about uh social commentary at the same time as getting myself off. So it's it's a little bit of both.

SPEAKER_08 28:42

So but you also had to deal with backlash about the titties from Victoria Scones and stuff like that. And I know that's like a maybe a sore topic.

SPEAKER_06 28:48

I don't want to bring it up, but like not at all. No, I think that there was there was a lot of people that have different feelings about many different things.

SPEAKER_08 28:56

They think that they thought that it was making fun of women having these giant breasts because it's like clownery of women, which I one could argue if if if they had if if it was a queen that had like a giant cock, would guys be I don't know, it's kind of hard to say.

SPEAKER_07 29:13

I mean, but if you're gonna go down that road, don't you have don't you have to already subscribe to the fact that drag is some in in all of its form, some clownery of women in all senses?

SPEAKER_06 29:24

Like it's no drag is about self-expression. Cool. Yeah, no, absolutely.

SPEAKER_07 29:28

I'm saying if you're calling you out for big tits and clowning women, right? It's a man in a dress.

SPEAKER_06 29:33

Clowning women, it's about honoring and respecting women and embracing your own femininity.

SPEAKER_09 29:41

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_06 29:42

And so I couldn't agree more. Yeah, I was talking more to this woman that I didn't know you were. Clowning women are the ones that are not doing it right. I would say that's when you're, you know, that's not the intention. Right. The intention is that I'm a clown and this is my joyous expression of myself, given what I have access to in this world.

SPEAKER_07 30:01

And um, yeah, the it's and also you want to express yourself as an artist impersonating a female, right?

SPEAKER_06 30:08

I mean, yeah, I think it's not impersonating a lot of people.

SPEAKER_08 30:10

Well, not always because the the baloney character is not a female, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 30:14

No, right, it's not always that way.

SPEAKER_08 30:16

Or female, obviously.

SPEAKER_06 30:17

Yeah, I think it's it's more like my higher self. Right. Yeah, and so it's that's very burning man of you. Right, it's my higher self, it's my my fuller other self. So it's not like I'm being someone else, I'm another version of myself.

SPEAKER_07 30:31

Yeah, so that's me like when I'm when I'm at the burn, that's very me, but I'm like this mad max version of myself. It's a lot of like skeleton mass and big chunky cowboy hats with razor blades on it, and then like glow sticks and LSD.

SPEAKER_08 30:44

You know, interesting. That's so fascinating though, because I always wonder how people do with the backlash of like whenever you do anything and you're putting yourself out there, it's always gonna be a certain amount of backlash.

SPEAKER_06 30:54

I'm always fascinated how you the clowning is all about all the feelings, and I'm all about all the feelings. So I'm I I welcome it all. People come to my shows, and you know, not so much now as when I was being a more of a performance artist and doing like real twisted clowny bullshit that was really wacko. Um, you know, people come and go, like, wow, like what the fuck was that? Like sometimes I'd finish and it would just be, you know, a slow cap and the clap, and people would be like, I just someone's crying, someone's like turned around facing the other way. And other people are like, that's the best thing I've ever seen. Someone's throwing up. Someone's throwing up, someone's someone's like, oh my god, this is everything. You know, I've been spoken about in in um, you know, universities and colleges where they're talking about performance artists and and clowns and things. So I think that's art creating conversation, and not everyone's gonna agree with you, not everyone's going to um like what you're doing, but what they can't do is dictate your point of view or why it is you're doing that. And I don't have to agree with them on that. I don't have to agree with them on how to perceive my art and what their experience has been that has led them to that assumption about who I am and what it means for me. So all they're doing is just saying, this is what your art means for me. And I go, Okay, well, there you have it. So what are you gonna do? Yeah, keep looking and keep hating it, or move on and enjoy your life doing whatever the fuck it is.

SPEAKER_07 32:20

It's like when someone paints a masterpiece and you're like, it speaks to you, or walk to the next painting. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 32:24

So I'm not that concerned, and I don't need to every I don't need to be loved or liked by everybody. I want to be loved and liked by Daniel, you're listening because I genuinely told me I genuinely love people. I genuinely love connection. I genuinely do not want to make anyone feel bad, sad, or um unwelcome or made fun of or any less than. My intention is always to show up 100% me, make people laugh, spread good vibes, spread joy, see people. That's one of my things I love is just see people. Yeah, because people are so often overlooked, you know, they don't give in a second. I have the opinion that everyone is awesome, awesome. Give them their moment to be awesome. Say hello. Go hi, who are you? You know, what's going on over here? And you know, you walk around a party and you find the people that no one's talking to, and you just give them a second and go, like, hey, what's up? And just talk to them, you know, like a friend or whatever. You're gonna get amazing stories. You're gonna all of a sudden call this person in. You're gonna have this whole other time change for these people. And and I love that aspect of it. So I don't like when people assume negative things or bad things about me, but I also I'm doing the work in the world to uh put good vibes and good energy out there. So I feel like there's enough people in the world that know me by now that go and say, okay, well, that's your assumption interpretation, but I've met Jimbo and it's otherwise. I love your positive energy. 100%.

SPEAKER_08 33:49

I mean, and I think it comes back to like the boomerang effect because people are definitely love Jimbo and love you as a so you reached this pinnacle in your career in many ways. I mean, I know that it's always a mountain, you know, yeah, there's always a new mountain to go to, but you reach exactly those tiggle bitties. But like you could you can continue to do what you're doing until you're met very old. Like, you know, I mean, and it would be fine. Is there something though that you go, okay, I really want like for me, a really good example. When you look at me two years ago, five years ago, you'd go, okay, he's done he does well. He's got the underwear party, he's got this, he's got these things that make him money. He could just ride the wave, and all of a sudden I found myself down here sweating my balls off in zippelite. And I go, Sometimes I go, how'd this fucking happen? And now all of a sudden we're here making this happen. So lucky. Well, I feel very blessed because I saw an off ramp and I said, This is a really fun off ramp let's go. Do you have that thing where you go? We talked a little bit today about something, but like, do you have something where you're like, I really want to like do you want to host the Oscars or do you want to like I think I want to um create art at that level.

SPEAKER_06 35:01

I love um communicating with people, I love making an impact, and I love storytelling, and I have a unique point of view, and I want to make the art that I want to see in the world. And um so yeah, I I definitely want to get more into movies and writing. I have like a million script ideas. I probably have like 17 or 18 in my phone just from when I'm like, oh you know, dreaming of ideas. So that's my next thing is to really focus on my writing and focus on getting my ideas fleshed out. Um I had a few cool meetings um over the past year and a year and a half with various people that have been very encouraging. So yeah, that's my dream is to really focus on writing and getting better.

SPEAKER_07 35:46

Well, down like that writing road. So let me ask you, because you were talking, I I won't say the network or anybody, but you were saying, like, hey, somebody had called me and they're like, you know, just I wanted to have your number. Let's keep in touch. I'm now doing this, and you know, let's let's eventually do something together. So, like you were so wonderful when you came out, you did Jimbo's clown show at at the Ice Palace, Fire Island. So I've seen your journal stuff, you're talking about doing a show with that. When you sit down, do you write a show or do you I guess I I've known some Drag Queen Sum in Berlin and whatnot, where they kind of like put their outfits out, like this is what I want to wear, and then they build a show from that. They pick the numbers they're gonna do, and then other people are like, I'm gonna write like a one-woman show, right? And then I'm gonna fill it in.

SPEAKER_08 36:23

Yeah, Dina Martina, every comma, every breath. Yeah, because the comedy is in her timing, and she has her timing. I mean, Dina, she's I consider a genius, but like everyone's different. Yeah. Bianca, I think, doesn't have quite like I think she grabs the microphone and goes.

SPEAKER_06 36:40

I'm a combination of both where I do a lot of improv and it's a lot of like I I really pride myself on on being present and going, like, okay, what what am I gonna work with? Well, that's what clowns school helps you, right? Yeah, clown school teaches you to listen to everything and it's all gifts. You kind of the you know, as a performer, you take sounds, you you listen and you address everything, and that's what makes people laugh, you know. If someone coughs, or you know, those are some of the funny moments where you kind of grab that and you run with it, and that feels very immediate, which is what people like, is like a sense of immediacy, it's happening for them specifically.

SPEAKER_07 37:14

It makes the show live.

SPEAKER_06 37:15

Yeah, it makes it live, it makes them go, okay, this is something special for me that I'm here witnessing that's not like so rehearsed. And um, so I love that aspect of it. And each show is kind of different, it comes at it differently, whether I'm creating something new, or if I'm gonna draw, you know, for Jimbo's Drag Circus, I really wanted to draw on the the characters I had presented in my time on Drag Grace, and I wanted to kind of give them a little window where I kind of created a little world for them to exist in. And I wrote a song for them, yeah, and I would subvert the idea and and do a costume change. And so it was just a little kind of um, you know, continuation of my story. And I wanted to sort of bring that experience from the TV to theater. I'm a theater kid, I love theater, and um prior to Dragon, I worked in film and theater, and a lot of the people that I worked with in in my past, they said, You're incredible, you have such a vision, we're going to be working for you one day. And I was like, Oh, shut up, you guys. And they're like, No, we know it, and we can't wait because I cannot wait to see what you come up with. And so I was so grateful and fortunate that life presented me the opportunity to come back to my community of artists and people I'd worked with. And I was able to say, Okay, we can do it. I've got the money, I've got the I've got the um people I was working with, Marie and Peter. Um, we put together this epic tour and these incredible theaters, and it was just a dream come true. I got to execute, you know, I felt like Beyonce. I rented out this place, and we went in and we rehearsed for weeks and had all these luxuries as an independent artist and as a clown and as a you know a starving artist doing theater way back. I would never have dreamt. Like, oh wow, I'm gonna have the phone to do this exactly as I wanted it. And it was amazing. It's it was just an absolute dream come true. So now I need to figure out how to do it again.

unknown 39:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 39:00

Well, I think you will. Something tells me you're gonna figure it out. Yeah, there's a positivity there that I just find so in uh inspiring.

SPEAKER_07 39:08

We're gonna take another break here on Trigger.

SPEAKER_08 39:10

We're gonna come back in just a minute with Jimbo's trigger. We always talk about our triggers, and we got Jimbo, who is probably the nicest person we've ever had on him.

SPEAKER_07 39:24

We're gonna come back and find out what's going on.

SPEAKER_08 39:26

Jimbo and Jonathan Groff are the two nicest. Jonathan Groff was like people who cut in line. And it was like, bitch, I got a trigger for you.

SPEAKER_07 39:33

His trigger was when people end everything with, right? Right? It wasn't peach season. I was like, Where are the peaches? Right? Right. Like, that's your trigger. That's your trigger.

SPEAKER_08 39:52

Ladies and gentlemen, you're back at trigger warning. My name is Daniel Rodnicio with Clutch. We're talking with Jimbo. Jimbo. I love Jimbo so much. I really do. By the way, we're so cheap. These are the ones that came with it. We don't even have like ones that we Yeah, no, I don't think there's.

SPEAKER_07 40:10

I'm just Jimbo is Oh, there's special effects for the microphones. That's really cool. I like the rainbow. Yeah, no, it's a pretty, it's a pretty little.

SPEAKER_08 40:23

So, Jimbo, whenever we do the podcast, the reason we started this is because I uh I've in the past have been known to be controversial and trigger people with things that I've done and said. And I don't mean to, really, honestly. It's just that, like you said, about your big titties, you do what you do, and people react as they react, and sometimes you know. But I think you come from it in a little bit of a kinder, gentler world than I do. I tend to get a little bit vociferous about things. And I appreciate that about you, or actually learned something from you today.

SPEAKER_07 40:51

Oh, good.

SPEAKER_08 40:52

I did.

SPEAKER_07 40:52

I got burlesque feet. Jesus. Uh uh.

SPEAKER_08 40:55

But I um I'm just working out issues. Yeah, exactly. But um, what we do on the podcast is we we we close out by just talking about something that triggers us that week. And it might be something that, you know, uh upsets you, could be something really simple, it could be really big. We fry the small fish here, meaning we don't really do the big stuff, we just talk about small stuff, but you can talk about big stuff.

SPEAKER_07 41:16

It can just be something that you know, like you eye roll and look at your friend, you're like, this fucking bitch. But you know, things that trigger you. Well, and so do you want us to go first? Do you want to go first? Yeah, you guys go first. Okay, cool. Sure. I mean, I'll go first with mine. Um it's something that just happened to the three of us, which is funny, and it happens a lot with me. I don't I don't know why, because I'm not somebody that should be photographed a lot, or I'm not in places that get photographed a lot. But whenever you have to You should be photographed a lot, you're a good looking guy.

SPEAKER_08 41:43

I tease you a lot, but you're a good-looking guy. And you only got like the windows closing real fast. So get those pictures in. Get that modeling in. Keep those lights off. You've seen the Catherine O'Hara thing take a lot of pictures right now. You know, from from Mud Shit Screak, take a lot of pictures because those boobies, you might think those boobies.

SPEAKER_07 42:00

No, it's when you find like a perfect stranger that's kind enough to like take an image for you and like you just want to capture the moment quick. Like it's not a photo shoot. If I wanted a photo shoot, I'd hire a professional photographer. It's when random stranger A or one, however you're counting them, decides that they're the professional photographer, but they don't know what they're doing. Right. It's like if I had an ex named Manuel, and he would actually was happy to like take a photo with people because he could like adjust it, the flash, the zoom, the filter.

SPEAKER_08 42:28

Sorry, Alan Cumming. I if I take it, he'd say I would do it. He always knew how to do the ankle.

SPEAKER_07 42:34

Yeah, yeah. You got the angles, the filters, the flash on whatever time of day, the night shift, how to hold it still, all that stuff. And you could have somebody's happy moment done in like 15 seconds, and you'd he'd turn the camera around and people be like, oh my god, thanks. And what they didn't realize is like for a living, he had to make his asshole look like the Mona Lisa. So, like knowing angles and filters and stuff like that. No, I think a lot of porn stars that put the time in to do the work know how a camera works, you know.

SPEAKER_08 42:56

Well, like for instance, you you wouldn't you have to know how the camera works now because when you're my asshole does look like Mona Lisa.

SPEAKER_06 43:03

See, lips and all. Yours is like a Pollock. Yeah, it's definitely like a Pollock.

SPEAKER_07 43:08

Um, but but no, I that's been punched through.

SPEAKER_06 43:10

It is an art, it is an art to taking a good picture, sure. Being thoughtful of other people, and being like, okay, I'm gonna frame this for the other people.

SPEAKER_07 43:19

My trigger was the the lack of thoughtfulness. Like, read the room, hun. Like we wanted two shots. You offered three times to turn the flash off. We had somebody come help us.

SPEAKER_06 43:29

So your trigger just happened.

SPEAKER_07 43:30

My trigger just happened. Like, I don't I don't want I don't want to wait. I'm an impatient person, whether it's the the slight spectrumy or the ADHD. Like, I don't want you to hold up 20 minutes of my life. I think it was all like three and a half minutes, but it felt like 20 minutes. It got awkward. It gets awkward, and it's just like, why are you doing this? You offered, like, oh, here, let me turn the flash on so that you know you can get the photo in because it's like I can't see your face. He's like, Oh, I've got the flash on. He didn't have the flash on, he didn't know how to use this setting.

SPEAKER_06 43:58

Well, actually, he didn't want to use. The flash, he was taking artistic liberty, as he said.

SPEAKER_08 44:02

And I also think he was a straight man really blown away by the fact that there was someone. This is not something you see in Sibolite. I even forgot I was wearing it. How can you forget you were wearing a little bit like you know? I honestly think that even though clearly that's fake, right?

SPEAKER_03 44:21

How dare you?

SPEAKER_08 44:22

Clearly, it's prosthetic. I think straight men still girls. Clearly, I think straight men still go, it's like I'm the same way. I'm saying I'm a top. I see a guy with a fake ass. Uh I've known quite a few, and I'm like, I don't care. Oh we should get that person on for who uh who worked on best. Yeah. So my trigger is uh it's something that's happened since COVID, and it really drives me crazy now. I deal with corporations more because of like flying and Delta and and and GoDaddy and all these companies due to a high call volume. Drives me crazy because I was like, that was something you accepted during COVID is that people were you had to wait online for an hour or two. But literally, I was talking to Sam, our business partner this morning, and he's like online uh on hold with Delta for two hours due to a high call call volume. And I feel like we're now in a way. These are multi-billion dollar companies. And I think what happened was before COVID, I never waited for longer on an airline or for customer service for one of the major GoDaddy is a big one that I used to use to that hosted our websites and stuff like that. You always got through really quickly. All of a sudden, during COVID, because they cut their staff so much or they didn't train it. Then afterward they go, Well, we have to train new staff, we lost a bunch of people. It now is not unusual to wait online for 45 minutes to an hour. And they always give you those stupid prompts like push this for that, whatever, and it's never what I necessarily need. And I feel like we're entering into an age, it's never gonna get better. That's what I'm saying. My trigger is I've realized now it's never going to, they're never going to get better. You don't have status in any loyalty programs, do you? Uh I don't believe in that.

SPEAKER_07 46:10

I have a phone number that I call for my hairline. Your airline.

SPEAKER_08 46:15

But GoDaddy, I'm talking about a million things that I have to do. My vet now wants me to join their app because they're like, you know, you get faster. I'm like, I don't want any of your shit. I want to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_07 46:26

It's all it's all, you know, like I I worked for a company in Germany that that started those chatbots. That's all AI. You know, they they they have the million questions that anyone would ask, and they they're able to like spider search like their entire FAQ page and kind of like, has this helped you? Yeah, but it does. It never does because the question I have if you know is normally pre- It's about getting your money back, and that's what they want you to be.

SPEAKER_08 46:48

Yeah, but it's like a stupid thing. So anyway, you know, for instance, I was gonna start uh the vet uh program in New York City called Small Door Vet, and everyone told me it's a great vet service. I called them and I said, I want to make an appointment. She's like, Will you make the appointment in the app? And it's like, I don't want the app, I just want to make the appointment with the vet, and I promise you I have a bunch of animals, I'll be making vet appointments all the time. I'll be coming in. You can only make it through the app. And I was like, I'm not doing it then. I don't want an app with you, and I don't want your loyalty program.

SPEAKER_06 47:13

I don't want you to So you don't like the QR codes on the tables at the restaurants.

SPEAKER_08 47:18

That has to end. That has to end.

SPEAKER_06 47:19

Yeah, yeah. I hate that too. Cause I'm like, you see the person standing at the counter, and you're like, you could have helped me, you could have brought me that shit, and you stand there and wait. And they still want the scan the stuff.

SPEAKER_08 47:30

And they still live on tips, right? You know, you know, I'm fine if they said, you know, it's a non-tipping restaurant, you just order your food, someone brings it out, you give them my. We pay them$30 an hour instead of the you know, the federal government. You know, you tip the guy that brought your food out, you give them five bucks or whatever. It's fine. But if you're expecting this massive tip, I just feel like we're heading into a world where bad service and you know it's interesting. I know I'll I'll I'll we'll be done in a second, but we went to this dinner party in uh two towns over where you and I went yesterday for uh brunch, actually.

SPEAKER_03 47:57

Oh yeah, beautiful.

SPEAKER_08 47:58

And the owner told me about this book. I can't remember the name of it, it's like the unbreakable uh customer service or something like that. And I'm gonna read it of Danny. Danny Sherman told me about this book. No, it's called uh We had a wonderful mushroom mushroom dinner where the owner of the it's called the Unreasonable Hospital Unreasonable Hospitality. And unreasonable hospitality, and he said, We believe in hospitality, and I believe this, and I'll I'll make this story short. Phil, who is husband, went there and he'd joined something called Resort Pass or something like that, where you pay$100 and you get like a f you know, all these things there. He went because it's in Mexico, yeah. It's a fledgling app. They didn't necessarily know about it because it's in Mexico and they just opened, and so he was kind of getting a little bit like not huffy, but he was just getting like, well, I paid$100 for this and I was supposed to get like this or whatever.

SPEAKER_07 48:46

And and in Danny, hold on, in Danny, in Danny's fairness, it was from a general manager who had listed them on this site and they were unaware of it, and they got rid of that general manager, and they had a new general manager and they completely didn't even know they existed on the site. 100%. I was like to defend Danny because I'm about to give him the real props because what Danny did. But that makes it even better.

SPEAKER_08 49:05

They gave him his money back, they gave him two the massages, they comped them everything for the day, and they got customers for life. I've been back there now a bunch of times and went with Jimmy. They even took him on like a tour. They took him on a tour. They did all these great things. And so I said to Danny, we went back for that mushroom dinner, and I said, So uh, you know, I want to tell you that was really great what you did. And he said, uh, this book, uh the un whatever the unreasonable hospitality. And the book anyway, I started reading the book, and the point of the story is that I'm the plane's about to land. The first thing they say is it's about human connection.

SPEAKER_02 49:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 49:38

A restaurant, a hotel, uh, a vet. Right. It's about a human connection, and that people really respond to a human connection. So you're right. I don't want to go your QR code. I don't want to wait for a half an hour. I don't want to do it with some AI chat bot. I want to be able to just talk to someone. And normally I can get my problem solved in two minutes or less.

SPEAKER_06 49:58

Way faster.

SPEAKER_08 49:58

Way faster. Yeah. So anyway, that's my trigger right now. And I don't think that I can change the world, but I can change what we do and make sure that we never do that.

SPEAKER_07 50:07

I'm gonna add to it in two seconds and then we can close out because I'm watching our clock. Well, we also have to have enough time. Yeah, we got Jimbo's trigger. But I'm saying I'll close out when I'm talking about this and then we'll have Jimbo go. Okay, got it. I thought you would be like, yeah, because that would be her trigger. But no, you were you were you were to talk about their podcast. Um, that was Jonathan Groff's trigger. That's why he was like, I'll make a cute now. Um, but uh to your point about like the human connection and what we were talking about with chatbots and whatnot, and they're always trying to like worry about the bottom line and stuff like that, who I love, you and I both respect, and we follow a lot of his stuff. John Tapper, um, who does bar rescue and knows so much about hospitality and is uh John Tapper, right?

SPEAKER_08 50:44

Two F's Taffer. Jake Tapper or John Tapper. Oh, Jake.

SPEAKER_07 50:48

John Taffer. Um and he was talking about when a customer came into his restaurant, the first time they were in, if they had, you know, you could see that they were first booking, hadn't been back, they would put down a red cocktail napkin. And even if they noticed that they had a red cocktail napkin, it was for the bartender, the manager, everyone else to notice that that was a first-time customer. Then the general manager, bar manager, whoever would come over when the meal was over. Oh, do you guys have a good time? Oh, we had a wonderful time, or what? Because they bought the first drink, you know, first-time customer. And he would give them a card. If you had a good time, you've got to try our roast chicken, you know? And so he'd get a free card for a roast chicken. They come in again. Do you like the roast chicken? Oh, on Sunday we do ribs, blah, blah. And he calculated that the drink cost was like$2. Uh, the roast chicken was like$4. And then the ribs or whatever they were offering for their third visit was like$8. And the total was about$14 for customer retention. And they told everyone would bring friends and stuff like that. And the the industry standard in advertising, which is why these people are trying to save so much money and claw it back with customer service, was twelve hundred dollars per customer. And it was like, if you just interact with it.

SPEAKER_04 51:55

That meme with all the numbers. But I mean I'm trying so hard to do.

SPEAKER_07 51:59

But it's basically a difference of eleven hundred dollars that could have been spent to get a customer. And you spent you spent$40 with customer interaction, knowing that they were going to come back and bring food. And that's my whole point. Because of that human interaction, doing the right thing.

SPEAKER_08 52:14

We always remember the human interaction. Like I remember I've been to bad restaurants with great waiters, and I've been to great restaurants with bad waiters, and I tend to remember the bad restaurants with great waiters. You know, tend to be even if I'll make an excuse for them. So, anyway, we're here with Jimbo, uh, Dre RuPaul's Drag Race for Winner, uh see uh All-Star Season 8 winner. What triggers you permanent host of Canada?

SPEAKER_04 52:38

Yes, new judge.

SPEAKER_06 52:40

Um, my um trigger, so you're I you gave me one trigger when you said my trigger this week here. I was trying to think of what's my trigger in Zipolite. And um it's oh a local trigger.

SPEAKER_05 52:52

Oh, a sandy jobs. The sandy handy. I do not want to work. I don't want to work on a pearl with you. I don't. I don't want Sandy hand jobs. That's a great drag name, though. I don't want to in a pearl with you. Yeah, I don't want to work on a pearl with you.

SPEAKER_03 53:08

I don't. I don't. I don't have time. It hurts. But it is a good drag name. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the stage.

SPEAKER_08 53:22

Sandy hand job to the microphone.

SPEAKER_06 53:24

Uh but yeah, sandy hand jobs, um, very painful. You know, when you're on the beach, you know, you kind of work with what you've got. Is this a plow do more thing? It was a plow domor thing, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 53:34

And you know what kills me about a sandy hand job about Plyo Domor? What? Like the waves are crashing against like your knees in the sand, yeah. You can just like could just give her rinse off. Yeah, but you never get the sand off.

SPEAKER_08 53:44

Standing in two feet of water, you can just I'm sorry, you're gonna have sex at the beach. You get what is it, the old adage, uh, girls who drink beer on the beach get sand on their schlits. Wow. Um, it's just a Midwestern beer. Love it. Take it home, whore. That's what I have to say. Take it home, whore.

SPEAKER_07 54:00

Don't be a beach.

SPEAKER_03 54:03

Get a bottle of water, like wipe it down.

SPEAKER_07 54:06

If they give you a sandy hand job, you flip them around, you fuck them in the ass. Say, how does that feel? Ooh, that's rough, girl.

SPEAKER_03 54:12

I did that too, and that it doesn't it actually doesn't help either of you.

SPEAKER_08 54:17

It doesn't help either of you. But like your ass is not any better than your animal. Someone staying with us says it the HV that won't go away, so you could just shave it off. Jesus. No name. Josh.

SPEAKER_07 54:29

We were talking about someone who's staying with us who has HPV that is like Josh. I need an adult. I need an adult. Jimbo's not gonna let us air that. That's okay.

SPEAKER_04 54:42

No.

SPEAKER_08 54:43

Um but would sand help wipe away HPV if it was um I think the sand helps add a luster to it.

SPEAKER_06 54:51

I definitely noticed as I walked away um that I did my my dick did have a brand new lease on life. Microdermabrasion. Yeah, it was a microdermabrasion. Yeah, I was definitely breathing uh cleaner air for sure. And um, yeah, it's extremely smooth, so I feel polished. I heard scabs are healthy. We luckily we didn't go that that long. I I knew when to draw the line before the scabs. Yeah. The line in the sand.

SPEAKER_04 55:19

That's the old me.

SPEAKER_08 55:20

I just don't do sex on the beach anymore. Except the drink. Except the drink.

SPEAKER_07 55:24

Well, and it's without the peach knobs, it's without the cranberry, it's without the case.

SPEAKER_08 55:29

Well, Jimbo, you know, uh, you know, we adore you.

SPEAKER_06 55:32

I really appreciate that. I I adore you too. I adore everything that you've uh welcomed me into and exposed me to. You've showed me two of my favorite places in the world, Fire Island, and now Zeppelite. You um also gave me your incredible apartment in New York when I was doing Drag the Musical, which again was a whole other window into a dream that I I loved it. It did Broadway, yeah. It was a Broadway, baby. And I was living in the red eye, right in the thick of it in Hell's Kitchen, and it was couldn't ask for a better experience being in New York for my first time living um with you guys in your in your vibe at the red eyes is so amazing. If if any of you haven't been to the red eye in New York, you guys gotta go check it out. Such a vibe. Um check with the ice.

SPEAKER_08 56:15

But you're also a yes person, and go that goes back to what we're saying. Right. Like you're staying here with us in this kooky apartment where the cats are attacking your feed and we have to shower losing the else about it. And then you stayed in my apartment where like at four o'clock in the morning we we could have an after hours, and that's right. You know, everything is just and then you came to Fire Island and it was like you're staying in the Belveter two nights and you're moving over here.

SPEAKER_06 56:37

And what I love about my makeup melted off, that was the hottest show of my life.

SPEAKER_08 56:41

We have air conditioning now. We have air conditioning now, yeah. But what I love about you is that you say yes, and which is obviously the classic improv thing, but you also say it to life. And you know, another person would have hated those experiences. Right, but you said yes, and so that's why we invite you for more. Thank you. That's why we say that's why we say, like, you know, when you said something about oh, I want to come down and check out you know you actually really touched me when you said uh you've created a couple slices of paradise. I want to see this, this one in Zibelite. And that really touched me. And I remember telling Sam that we were very touched by it, Adam.

SPEAKER_06 57:16

Um and even Brady, he was like, you know, what do you do you think we should go as a trust in me? If Daniel's there, yeah, it's good. It's yeah, there's the reason.

SPEAKER_07 57:24

I was just gonna ask if we say your partner's name on on the air. Yeah, but you and Brady have just it's been six, well, five now wonderful days of just having you guys. Of Sandy handshops. Sandy hand shops. No, we just had so much fun. You guys are so chill. It's like, hey, I'm gonna go for breakfast. You want to join me? You're like, yeah, or like I'm gonna go over here, and you're like, we're gonna go to the gym, but we'll see you later. And it's like it's just oh, you guys have been so easy to easy living, is it's you know, when people are Daniel and I always say we travel well together and we don't travel well with a lot of other people. Right, right. It's been such a joy to have you guys around.

SPEAKER_06 57:53

It really has for welcoming into me into your us into your Zippolite frat house.

SPEAKER_08 57:58

Well, we can't wait to have you. Uh by the way, I should mention to our listeners. On Fire Island. We have Fire Island all the time. Yeah, I can't wait to have you.

SPEAKER_02 58:05

Yes, we've got to talk about coming. I'm bringing my new Joan Rivers show, the Can We Laugh comedy tour, an unofficial, unapproved. What the fuck is the other one? Unfiltered. Unfiltered. Thank you. I forgot my fucking Alzheimer's medication, for Christ's sakes. Yes, I'm back from the dead and I'm looking for head, okay?

SPEAKER_08 58:25

I love it. So it's August 22nd. Tickets go up, I think, next week. They go up for Jimbo live at the Ice Palace, August 22nd. We're so excited about this. I can't wait to come up. Seriously, just having you on the island. You you last year was like our first time getting to know each other, or two years ago, and it was really great. So, anyway, thank you so much for doing this. I know it's um we're gonna have pizza and watch a movie now.

SPEAKER_07 58:46

Yeah, totally. I love it.

SPEAKER_03 58:47

I love you, Adam. I love you, Daniel. Thank you so much. I love you. Thanks so much.

SPEAKER_07 58:50

This trigger warning from Zip66. We're closing it out. We'll see you on the island. I'm Adam Klesh.

SPEAKER_08 58:54

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SPEAKER_07 59:02

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SPEAKER_08 59:45

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