The Boys Are Back in Town: Lap Dances, Broadway Divas & NYC Chaos

WE ARE BACK! And by we I mean me and Adam, fully unhinged and recording Trigger Warning straight from The Cockpit at Red Eye. 

After a seemingly endless stint living in Zihuatanejo (no I really do love it), I’m back in New York where I belong: overstimulated, over‑moisturized, and aggressively look‑maxxing. Even Adam commented on my upbeat mood!

This week we kick things off catching up on NYC nightlife, skincare delusion, and what happens when you attend Buff Daddies at the Cockpit and suddenly become community property. Yes, I was swarmed. Yes, I finally experienced the lap dance cubbies. No, I will not be elaborating further (I absolutely elaborate further).

We also take a sentimental (and slightly chaotic) walk down memory lane about the venue’s former lives — Red Eye, Tobacco Road, and the upstairs “tranny hooker bar” — including a story about me and the LEGEND Sweetie, that needed to be told..

It’s nightlife chaos.
It’s Broadway opinions.
It’s gay cultural commentary. 

It’s us back in New York — overstimulated, over-opinionated, and fully in our element.

Strap in.

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Write to us at: Questions@TriggerWarningPod.com

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:05

What happens when you let Enfanturible, now just terrible, Daniel Nardicho, off his leash to say and do whatever he wants?

SPEAKER_02 0:13

The man who has offended everyone is back. Along with my brother from another mother, Adam Klesh, we're back with our latest creation, Trigger Warning, a podcast that is not for the faint of heart. Prepare to be offended, enlightened, and highly entertained. Trigger Warning is not a safe space podcast, but answers the questions no one wants to ask. Serves deep in vodka and a dash of bitter.

SPEAKER_01 0:38

Each week we'll bring you the highest and lowest in NYC nightlife. So buckle up. You've been warned.

SPEAKER_02 0:48

The last week in Zipalite Jackson, who was my roommate, my he I jokingly said, but look at you cracking up on a cold one. What is it? Well, maybe they'll give us money. Two in the afternoon.

SPEAKER_01 1:01

Pay for things. Oh, right. I forgot. This is I do love Brooklyn Brewery. I love Brooklyn Brewery.

SPEAKER_02 1:07

Um, I'm sure they love you.

SPEAKER_01 1:09

It's so nice to be back in the same room as our producer, Josh. I know, right? I'm kind of psyched about that.

SPEAKER_02 1:14

Josh will fix it in post. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:15

Rosensweig. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:16

Josh. Josh will fix it in post. Rosensweig. Um, no, I was just saying in Zibalita, I just got back and I let my last week there was so fun because um Sam left, which isn't why I made it fun. But anyway, Sam left and then Jackson moved in. And as a joke, I said, I think we should make the house like um you Jack man and two pussies. Mandatory close check. And he was like, Oh, yeah, that sounds fun. Well, what I love about him is he was like, Yeah, sure. And then he walked into his bedroom when I got in there, took his luggage in, walked out naked. And I said, Oh, I guess we're really doing this. Which bedroom was he in? He was in Sam's.

SPEAKER_01 1:50

Okay, all right. So I was the only person that didn't get a king bed. I know, and you had someone with you. Well, you got there last.

SPEAKER_02 1:57

Um, but it was really fun. Anyway, we're back in you're listening to Trigger War, you're watching now. You're now watching Trigger Warning. How exciting. I know this is really exciting.

SPEAKER_01 2:05

Can you believe people wanted more of this? I know, right? They're like, it's so good. I want to see it. You look good though. You look really good. You're giving us like a really young Colonel Sanders. I you know, I take your tips because you know, the big brother gives the little brother tips. I use that fucking 24 carat derma roller.

SPEAKER_02 2:20

The dermal rollers are incredible. I mean, I was like letting Dracula in every like third day. Exactly. You roll it on your face, it's got tiny little needles.

SPEAKER_01 2:27

Does it make you sneeze? No. It gives me, I don't know, it gives me a really good thing.

SPEAKER_02 2:31

I only use it when I use it on my taint, it makes me sneeze. That's called ejaculated. No, you know, you want your taint. You try to keep your taint young. Um, so anyway, Germany. It looks like um a tiny little roller, and you roll it on your face with these tiny little needles, and it pokes little holes in your face, and then your face tries to overcompensate. It's like platelets, it's yeah, and collagen. Like exactly. Trying to rebuild the damaged skin and you put in your little things and whatever. And I love it, but I'm all into work these days. Okay. Look maxing, I'm obsessed. You know about look maxing?

SPEAKER_01 3:09

Yeah, yeah. Who's the who's the D-bag? Clavicle. Yeah, clavicle. I love watching the videos where he gets his ass kicked.

SPEAKER_02 3:14

Oh, I know what he's like.

SPEAKER_01 3:15

Like, I like when he's out in public, like being a douchebag in Las Vegas and somebody just pops him, or like he said he could take this like jujitsu guy or something. You get his ass whooped. I mean, in three seconds he's in a chokehole and just like walks away defeated. No, don't. But he's like, he chews on the rubber balls for like the jaw muscle. He he breaks his jaw, hits his face with like a bulking hammer.

SPEAKER_02 3:35

Yeah, no, no, he's an idiot. He's an idiot. I'm not into him at all. That's not my thing.

SPEAKER_01 3:39

Um, I'm into But you've always been into looks maxing in the sense of like you've always loved your lotions and your potions. I love plastic surgery. So, all right, so I'll go to your bathroom looking for like, I don't know, like I'm gonna be a little bit of a thing for my contacts. And you're like, oh girl, while you're in there, there's like a bright orange tube. Try that just a little bit and dab it under your eyes.

SPEAKER_02 3:57

It's like the green, I have this green um moisturizer. If you put it on when your face is red, like sometimes you should go into sunblock. It it I learned this from Drag Queen. It like half of that shit on. If you if you get a red face from the sun, you do this green moisturizer and it cancels out the red.

SPEAKER_01 4:13

So now that we're in video, this is where Josh can like pop up uh Marlon Brando from the island of Dr. Moreau. That's what he looks like in Zipolite, Josh. It's like he puts on this big Wickerson rim hat. Top wears these stung glasses, he has this white shit slathered on, and he's in like a uh what is it, your Frida Kahlo server? Oh, my Frida Kahlo server. I was like fucking Dr. Moreau over there. I love it. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 4:36

So I want to say this real quickly. We're down in the cockpit recording today. And the reason I'm like I'm so excited about this is I this is ground zero for my bad behavior this past couple days. Oh I got back from I got back from Sablita Wednesday night late. And I came out of the gate running. Man, it was I did things I ne I never do here. Like I went to five fingers? I went to uh Buff Daddy's. Oh, you're gonna it is so fun.

SPEAKER_01 5:01

You never come to the parties here. Never, never, never.

SPEAKER_02 5:04

Uh yeah, I've done that.

SPEAKER_01 5:06

My employee should have to see me naked. And I don't know everyone else does.

SPEAKER_02 5:09

Yeah, I know, right, exactly. I don't get naked at Buff Daddies, they do that. So if for those of you listening, watching, is that the dancer part? That's right at the street. It starts at five.

SPEAKER_01 5:18

Yeah, yeah, it's early.

SPEAKER_02 5:19

Five some days, and it goes into the show. Come right after the office. It's what I love about it is it's it's like the cheese make for me, because it's like you start early, your early birthday.

SPEAKER_01 5:28

And um by 11, you're you're in a robe in bed.

SPEAKER_02 5:31

Yeah, with with a dancer from with some Colombian. Uh and so anyway, I came down to Buff Daddy's to see John at the door, the the guy, the proprietor of it, who's a promoter of it. I love that guy, real character. And so New York. And so um he's like Tommy Grimaldi, remember Tommy? Totally magic touch dancers, yeah. Which reminds me, reminded me to tell you in the second story about upstairs with Sweetie. After I let you get through this one. Yeah, this is a long story, but you know what? We got time to kill. So I come down for the Buff Daddy's party to see him, and I forget. It's like 12 horse-hung Colombian, a couple white guys, not many.

SPEAKER_01 6:08

Is that drunk still uh working for him? Or was that uh Taylor Schubert? Yeah, Taylor's still here. No, no. No, it was like a hunter or forester.

SPEAKER_02 6:19

He was one of my half a half-hour husbands this week. Oh, god. I and I love because a month ago, I never want to see him again. I didn't see him technically. I just had some.

SPEAKER_00 6:33

No eye contact.

SPEAKER_02 6:35

That's there's a story there that I can only tell you off the air. So anyway, I can't. He's a mess, but he's a great fuck. He's so sexy, but he's a total mess. You could almost say that's the name of our podcast. He's so sexy, but why Josh will fix it a book? Exactly. So anyway, I come down for Buff Daddy's and they see you know, older white men, so they're like, money, and they're all like Colombian or they get Dominican Probably know, right? Exactly. You should have seen me in the fall, I said when I had it. And then they all come flying on, and I'm just trying to talk to John or whatever. And then they they're really good at me. I'm just no, I'm not even joking. I really was, and they're like trying to, and I'm like, no, no, no. And then I get behind the bar, and um, I forget who was Brit Fern was like, This is the owner, and it was Joan for one night because there was two of them. I came to two of them. Joan, and he's like, This is the owner, and so all of a sudden they heard that, and then it was over. Yeah, you know, and then it was it's only$20 at lap dance, and they don't lap dance, and then the forest bellies up to the bar when you're there, and he's like, Oh, it's too shut. Exactly. Well, he wasn't here, and that's not where he met up. But anyway, um, have you ever gotten a lap dance here from one of the matches from one of the dances? I've gotten a lap dance, not here. You should. Yeah, it's 20 bucks a song, and let's just say there's not a lot dancing. Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of lap.

SPEAKER_01 7:46

Okay, all right. I was really shocked. I don't know why I there's something about that that I don't know. It's I I love sex workers. Some of our best friends are sex workers. That's my trigger today. There's like, are they good dancing? There's a bit of like dancing. Exactly. There's a bit of secondhand embarrassment involved for me where I'm just kind of like, you know, no touching in the champagne room. Or if you I'm not sure I want to touch. I don't, I don't know. I love sex with randos. I'm not gonna hide that. I don't know. There's something weird about a lap dance.

SPEAKER_02 8:13

So nothing weird about hooking, I'll lap dance. They have weird little alcoves built into the the cockpit here, and they just call come up to you, and you're it's a three-minute boyfriend. Uh yeah, exactly. They basically come up, you're batten off like flies. Did you blow your load? No, I didn't even get close. But what happened was Did you get it up? No, yeah. Yeah. No.

SPEAKER_00 8:32

Clear.

SPEAKER_02 8:34

So stupid. You're the only one I know with track marks on your cock.

SPEAKER_00 8:38

So they um I told you it's from the Ozepic. That's right. Carry all my weight.

SPEAKER_02 8:43

What happened? I'm trying to get to a simple story. I still didn't tell the one about the stuff. You've got nothing to talk about, so I'm gonna drag with this thing. I have so much, you know. Now that I'm back and I'm living in the I'm wearing pants. The land of convenience. I haven't worn pants in months.

unknown 8:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:58

Anyway, so so I'm here, and then finally this dancer comes up to me and he goes, You want a lap dance? I hear you're the owner. And I was like, I'm sure I'll do that. Um, because 50s. He was like, he was like, um, I was like, yeah, how much does that even know? And he's like, it's a 20th song. I was like, fine, whatever. We'll go. But I'm only doing two songs. I've never had a lap dance. This will be fucked. 20th song. I'm stopping it too. Yeah, totally. I said, and they DJ hit it with remixes, with the remixes in the heck hex to remix of Breathe by Faith Hill, the one that goes on for 12 minutes.

SPEAKER_01 9:29

I was just gonna say, I won't relight my fire with Vertigo. I want the third team.

SPEAKER_00 9:33

I got my group on.

SPEAKER_01 9:36

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 9:37

My group.

SPEAKER_02 9:39

No, I had my group on upstairs.

SPEAKER_01 9:42

Oh god.

SPEAKER_02 9:43

Oh, you're so happy now that you're back in the stage. Towards the end, it was just a lot of work. But anyway, it'll wear off. Just watch the news, it'll wear off. So I um uh so we go back to the lap dance, and this is the thing.

SPEAKER_01 9:57

In one of the weird cubbies. In the weird cubby.

SPEAKER_02 9:59

Paint the picture.

SPEAKER_01 10:00

Yeah, totally. So it's like it's draped from the HVAC system, right?

SPEAKER_02 10:03

Right. Totally. So it's all the way down to the streets. It's like a black tea. We go back there, or we go back for the other. But the problem is all of the dancers had been hitting me up because he was like super gregarious about this the owner, this the owner. And so all of them. Yeah, it was like you upstairs when you used to live across the hall. Why is there a turnstile down here? No, I just I was trying to like just be nice. I'll get the collapse for the we go back there and I said, So I've never done this before. He just grabs my pants and yanks them down. It's just like cock up. Yeah, exactly. And I was like, Oh my god, no, this is way more than I bargained for. And a really good reach for the soap. And a really good deal.

SPEAKER_03 10:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:43

20 bucks.

SPEAKER_03 10:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:45

Yeah. Did you know you weren't hard? I was like, no, I'm not sure. Is it just like she gotten it? But the problem was the DJ could see, it was the only one that could see in there. And then that's I'm not gonna say his name. Okay, so anyway, he was watching there. I can't be watched. Anyway, this story is going on far too long. This plane is gonna land. So trying to get you to come. How would you know? I've heard it. The slow windows. Anyway, then I came back another night. Okay, then I came back another night on Sunday last night. Well, because I just was like kind of like enjoying myself. It's every Sunday at five, isn't it? It's Sundays and Fridays now, I think. And maybe Wednesdays. It's all the time here. I feel like every time I come, there's like hookers walking around on the street. One of my renters asked me how to become a dancer.

SPEAKER_01 11:29

They're all hookers, you're renters. Yeah, I know. And off-key singers. Yeah, totally.

SPEAKER_02 11:33

So, anyway, long story short, I come, I'm upstairs talking with Antonio, our bartender. I'm having such a good time. And this guy walks in. That is his neck was as big as my thigh. He was a man with a capital M. Like he was just so hot and stacked, and like uh, and he walked by. Like your Prussia cheese made? Uh yeah, exactly. And he walked by and started going downstairs. And I was like, Holy fuck, who was that? And and Tony's like, I think it was one of the dancers, but it's one of the hotter dancers. Well, girl, I went upstairs, I had my slippers on. I went upstairs, I took my curlers out. I took, I put on my day beat, and I broke the old coffee tin from under the sink.

SPEAKER_01 12:13

How many twenties I got here? Brought down your Streisand album.

SPEAKER_02 12:17

I reached up to my exactly the coffee can exactly got out my day beat, took out my curlers, came down here and got a lap dance from the and he was from the Dominican Republic. And then did you did you take him up to the Vale? No, I did not. He offered it, but I thought it was very sweet. I just wanted to experience the lap dance twice uh here at the cockpit. That was a really long story, but anyway, Buff Daddies, check it out if you're here. It's really fun. I remember back when I started Nightlife that there was a thing where that the people like the misshapes, I think they were called the misshapes. Yeah, the misshapes. Yeah, they're really the mistakes, but that I caught that's what I called them. But anyway, just so pretentious. But anyway, where they would like take over like a sex club party thing, and and it was really fun because it was kind of like the chicken, like John Waters would do this. He would take a bunch of people in New Orleans to the corner pocket. And it was kind of a really cool idea. He was great because he still does that. Yeah, he still does that. A bunch of people like from the art world that we take him to corner pocket, and they'd be like scandalized. And so I really love that. So that that I was telling the story about um the what all the stuff that's been going on here recently, and I remember a story that I was telling Sam uh this morning about this very building where years ago Sweetie brought me here.

SPEAKER_01 13:31

Oh, yeah, when this was this was like a uh fuck it. People get triggered. It was a tranny hooker bar.

SPEAKER_02 13:37

It was a tranny hooker bar.

SPEAKER_01 13:38

Yeah, exactly. That's exactly how Sweetie would say it. Rest his soul.

SPEAKER_02 13:40

So we're gonna be right back. I'm gonna tell the story. We'll be back. We're gonna talk about Sweetie and the tranny hooker bar that was upstairs.

SPEAKER_01 13:47

Oh, is that our is that a hopefully set?

SPEAKER_02 13:50

All right, you're watching slash listening to.

SPEAKER_01 13:52

Isn't that great? You're watching.

SPEAKER_02 13:54

You're watching. I keep forgetting to look at the camera. Hey, how you doing?

SPEAKER_01 13:57

I keep looking at this way because Josh is cracking up. We're obviously having a we're on a roll here, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 14:01

Well, we were on a roll.

SPEAKER_01 14:02

I'm breaking the fourth wall of my. I'm just trying not to show you. Josh likes it.

SPEAKER_02 14:05

We're doing good stuff. The last thing I want to talk about real quickly when we come back is um the Miami doctor who's gonna be doing my um sh sh oh yeah, and that kid daddy do over. He uh the one of the dancers here last night was they were all talking about their ass, and half of them had their s their COVID fat sucked out by the same doctor putting their ass.

SPEAKER_01 14:24

The first thing you talk about when we come back.

SPEAKER_02 14:25

Hello. All right, so you're back at trigger warning. I'm Adam Klesh with uh Daniel Nordiccio. So uh picture this. This red eye and the cockpit used to be a many different iterations. It was a the Savoy, which is jazz club, LaFleur's, which was like a strip club trans hooker bar.

SPEAKER_01 14:47

Tranny hooker bar. Yes, you can say that. I know. They made a by the way, they made a great documentary. Did you come to that dinner? I didn't because I was out of town. Okay, it was wonderful. They showed this documentary, and John LaFleur was there, sat at the table with Taylor and I. Yeah, yeah. It was kind of incredible what they did back then. It was like really glitz and glamour, and like oh, yeah. I used to go all out. Back then there was money to do that. And this didn't exist, the cockpit didn't exist.

SPEAKER_02 15:09

No, we dug it out. Yeah, we built the cockpit. Yeah, it was so crazy. Um, and so anyway, sweetie years ago, I forget if it was LaFleur's, it was it was there was something in the interim, and Sweetie brought me here. I'll remember it someday. But it then it became Tobacco Road, and then it became like it was many iterations upstairs, the red eye, which is one of the reasons I love it. That was special events, yeah. Red Eye has like a we got a history. So anyway, I I mean Sweetie on the She's like, We're gonna go see some dancers, we're gonna see some dick dancers. I said, sure. So we go. She was running late because she was getting her gun busted. Exactly, Beth Page.

SPEAKER_00 15:42

And we um she used to call me all the time and be like, oh girl, I got my cunt busted in Beth Page.

SPEAKER_02 15:48

I don't know why I thought that was so funny, but I always did. She'd call me that, call me. And so she brought me to this. Uh-huh. And we're sitting there. It's like, once again, it's like daytime. So it was weird doing the strip club at daytime in Times Square. But anyway, we did. And um, it's all these like um Colombian, Puerto Rican dancers, and that that was very much her flavor. And um, they go up on stage and they strip and they come out in clothes and then they strip and eventually naked. Well, they're all they're all queens, but they're like giving you like um butch, you know. Not like buff daddies, they're actually really they're actually butch? They're actually a lot of them.

SPEAKER_01 16:24

Because that's like your biggest complaint about like gay male dancers, is you're like, so fam.

SPEAKER_02 16:29

Give me a little more Donnie and a little less Marie. So oh wait, there it is. Yeah, there you go. That was a little bit. I know I had it turned down. Yeah, Josh will fix it in post. Soapy. I want a little more Donnie in my men and a little less Marie. Give me Donnie in the streets and Marie in the sheets. So, sweetie brings me in. And she was so much fun to hang out with because she just like was talking to everyone. She was loud. Sweetie was such a good old good time R IP. So we go in there, and and the dancers are coming out, and they're dancing. And this one guy comes out, he's wearing gauchos. Their pants are like wide-legged, but they only come down to like mid-calf. Oh, okay. And he comes out in gauchos. It's really cholo stuff. But he's like giving you like I'm butch, but you could tell he was not. He was hiding in the Marie. And she goes, Work the gauchos, mama. Work the gauchos. So she's at the back with me in the dark, screaming, work the gauchos. And this guy's up there trying to be butch, and he just starts like giggling like a tipsy Japan. Like a dipsy Japanese prostitute. Yeah. And then he finally comes over and he and Sweetie had like a key. They were like like they hit it off. Of course, they were both sisters, they were just like bumping recipes, they weren't gonna have sex. It was it was a fun time. It was a fun time. It was very seedy in here. Yeah. Upstairs. It's not CD anymore upstairs, it's CD downstairs for after hours. Well, for those listening, we're gonna be start doing uh some live uh besides the video that we're doing here today. We're gonna be doing live here at Red Eye in the cockpit for one of your new famous parties.

SPEAKER_01 18:03

You haven't come up with a lot of new stuff lately. No, girl, I moved on. I know, but you've got this new one called uh Devil Wears Nada that the kids are gaga for. It's so crazy. And you weren't the last one? I wasn't here, I was in Mexico. They're bonkers, it's packed. I used to come down in like my bathrobe, you know, because curlers were still in your head. I was following your philosophy of like, you know, don't be the naked owner, you know, don't be that you don't want to be sued. Yeah, and so like I come down in like a bathrobe and like sneak over into a dark corner with somebody we weren't paying. Right. This is back in the days when I wasn't fucking employees. Right, exactly. Totally. Make sure you get that on record. Thanks. And and and they but they were good. They they were good. Well, the employees. I'd fuck them, then they'd interview, then they got hired. Then they'd sue. Yeah, that was kind of the yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a nice little trick. But it was it was a good party. It was, you know, down here it's funny.

SPEAKER_02 18:52

There was there was like six months where Devil Wars Nada was like 10 people, and I was there at the time trying to like trump up, like, oh, this is fun, you know, whatever. Passing out trimix. Yeah, exactly. Stop it. I never passed out trimix. I passed out. Your little police boat. Oh, wait, sorry. That was the right. Yeah, that was the bad thing. Anyway, Devil Wears Nada now is like and they're like really cute guys, really hot guys, and it's really fun.

SPEAKER_01 19:24

Yeah, this sounds like we're like doing a commercial, but seriously, it's a great party.

SPEAKER_02 19:28

Yeah, it really is. The next one's on uh April 25th, and we're gonna be doing a podcast live beforehand. I think so. We're gonna work on that with Josh. I'm gonna do my best, RuPaul.

SPEAKER_01 19:36

Yeah, look like I'm naked, but just have like my joggers on underneath. There you go, exactly. Is this is this my mark, Josh? Like where do you stop seeing me? Good here? Perfect. Oh, so I can't wear it.

SPEAKER_02 19:45

Move it up like six inches away.

SPEAKER_01 19:47

And then I can wear my spanks, and then we're both good to go. Far from good and good from standing the whole thing. So it's a great party we're doing.

SPEAKER_02 19:57

Remember when models were like fat? And this was the like well. The other one is this you always know when a guy sends me pictures to dance, and they always do the photos that are up. That's that's when you say Taylor looks the best. They always do this thing where they raise their arms, of course, because it pulls everything up. And I was like, show me your arms down, you know. I mean, but then I don't I don't really care anymore. Then you'll show me your arms across this chair. Exactly. Exactly. So that was that that was uh that that'll be coming up soon. We're very excited about doing that. So much happier on Zipolite. I think you spent too much time down there. I'm not gonna say that it wasn't great. It was a really great It's paradise, but paradise can get you know, paradise lost. It's a it's a dashboard light. So it was take a moment here. I need an adult. It was um it was a tough last couple of weeks, except for living with Jackson, which was really great. Um, it but I'm really happy to be back. I'm so there you go. Wow, two sponsorship package. It was it was amazing. Zipalite was amazing, I have to say. Like I love living there. Five months is a long time to live in a always 87 degrees, always sunny.

SPEAKER_01 21:04

Well, it's like what I talk about. You people get sun-dumbed. It's why I hated Los Angeles and San Diego. It's always 85 degrees. Like, there's you can always do everything manana, everything's tomorrow. Everything was manana.

SPEAKER_02 21:15

Yeah, it's yeah, and I'm like just like I need stuff to move a little faster.

SPEAKER_01 21:19

But I think you learned that you have to be a little more like Sam and I and how we want like our residence at Casa Acesas to be. Three weeks is great, then leave.

SPEAKER_02 21:27

Even if it's my plan right now, next year, or well, the next year being October when I go down there, is like two months on, two months off, two months on, two months off. That'll be fine. That's good. Because I love two months, yeah. It's really great because you have like your settle in, you gotta do it. And you gotta manage businesses down there, so it's not a you know, so you're busy, but like when you don't have a lot to do and you're down there and everyone's like, let's go to the beach, but then you're also having to deal with work stuff, and it's just like it was like it was I was just so happy to get back to like well and you're a little out of your element, right?

SPEAKER_01 21:56

Because we're in like the planning stages of shit down there, right? So it's a lot of like architecture. Drawings and digging and moving this dirt pile, that dirt pile, and putting a water line in. And you're more like the vision has been complete. Now let me get the people in there. Exactly. Yeah. Let my exact you're a true producer promoter, you know.

SPEAKER_02 22:13

Yeah, and also you're dealing with pesos, Spanish, and metrics. Yeah, yeah. And I'm so happy to be back where I'm dealing with dollars and English and inches. And girl, this weekend I was dealing with. I was dealing with so many inches this weekend. I got back here and I said I'm ordering food and I'm dealing with inches, dollars and English.

SPEAKER_01 22:34

Let me guess. Let me I'm gonna I want you to fill in the blanks because I'm sure you had more than a couple. So we already went over that you had the I never want to see him again. You had that hooker.

SPEAKER_02 22:44

Um, yeah, I I first of all, I I decided it was best to take Tabasco. Tabasco went to Stella's. Oh, because oh, because I said you you mama was stepping out. Mama wants to have no one around anymore because I don't want that dog to be put through any more sites that he doesn't. Because he just like quivered in the corner. Child service is coming and being like, this dog has been exposed. The ASPCA kicks in the door.

SPEAKER_01 23:08

We're taking your child.

SPEAKER_02 23:10

We're taking the dog.

SPEAKER_01 23:11

You're like, that's great. I'm in the middle of someone. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 23:15

You used my joke in a good way.

SPEAKER_00 23:17

I know.

SPEAKER_02 23:17

It landed. Yeah. So anyway. New audience. It landed.

SPEAKER_00 23:26

So anyway.

SPEAKER_01 23:27

Sebasco in the corner playing the drumbo. So anyway, it was okay. So you had a hooker. You had uh what was that hookers? Well, you had drunk hooker you never wanted to see again, which I find hysterical that you like break the rule because he's a good fuck. Um, I'm gonna guess that you had your 20-year regular. Oh yeah, okay. So I nailed that one. I'm gonna guess you had your PA trucker. PA trucker, yeah. He brought a he brought a load.

SPEAKER_02 23:51

He brought a load up from Pennsylvania. Yeah. He was carrying a heavy load from Pennsylvania. Not 18. Disgusting. Not 18. Disgusting. He's carrying someone else's baby. This podcast is supposed to be about things that are uh vivifying. That's the word of the cast? It's a good word, vivifying. Vivifying, yeah. It's supposed to be enlightening, and right now we're going down the gutter. We're in the cockpit, so I guess that makes sense, but I want to stick with like, you know, like I don't want to go down that rabbit hole.

SPEAKER_01 24:27

It was it, let's just say you brought one of the dancers upstairs. No, never a dancer.

SPEAKER_02 24:36

No. No, you know, I'm just trying to not. That's my family food. Yeah, no, I'm trying not to, um, I'm trying to be careful when it comes to like work. Yeah. All right. People. Yeah. So who else did you have up there? Because you had more than three. All right. You've been back for a week. Let's just let's just like put a button in that because I don't need people to think that I'm like a total whore of Babylon. I did get in on Wednesday, so that does that's like almost a week later. But it was a it was a fun time to be had by all. And those that didn't, they don't live to tell the story, so it doesn't matter. So anyway, we'll move on. Okay. I saw Titanic.

SPEAKER_01 25:08

Okay. Have you seen it yet? Uh, I saw it in Paris, I saw it in London, I saw it in the original Union Square. Titanic really was in Paris. It was in Paris, yeah, yeah. They did it, they did a huge, yeah, yeah. They went all over the place. They took this bitch on tour.

SPEAKER_02 25:24

Have you seen? Do you know Constantine?

SPEAKER_01 25:26

I know Constantine very well. I had a feeling you did. He's so cute. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:31

So good in that. Uh-huh. I've never seen him or heard of him.

SPEAKER_01 25:34

Yeah, but he really steals the show. A lot of Marie on stage, a lot of Donnie in the sheets. Oh, yeah? Yeah, yeah. Well, Donnie's got a little, you know. Yeah, totally. Little. Yeah, what is it?

SPEAKER_02 25:43

Very smiley. Led in the tank. Um, she was like sugar in the tank. She was great. Frankie Grande was great. I actually hung out at the beginning. Deborah Cox is in it, isn't she? Deborah Cox was incredible. Like, I have to say, what role is Deborah Cox? Parsons. She was um insyncable Molly Brown. Oh, amazing. She was so good because it's a perfect role. She's an aging black woman who had that gave her like gray in her hair, and she just looks so stately.

SPEAKER_01 26:07

Is Jim Parsons playing the film? The mother. Oh, playing the mother. The mother of um because it's always it's always in a f uh of Rose, in a feminine man.

unknown 26:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:17

Yeah, and he was so funny. I mean, I have to say Rob Shooter, who's going to be on the podcast in the next couple weeks, uh, who's a good dear friend of mine, who's always been a little problematic because he's a gossip columnist. So when I had Bedlam and I was close with Ben and Anderson, they things would get leaked about um Anderson having a baby outside of, you know, um, it was just whatever. It got leaked. And and and Ben got obsessed. He thought that I was leaking it to Rob. And Rob would call me and be like, I heard this stuff, and I'd be like, girl, I'm not gonna, yeah, I I love Ben. I'm not gonna like blow up his spot. But of course, then it came out not because of me, but it just came out. And then Ben was obsessed. And you know, Anderson's always been really cool with me, but Ben got crazy and thought it was me. And I was like, girl, it's not me. I'm not gonna first of all, what am I getting out of it? Yeah. Saying that you're having a bit, you know.

unknown 27:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:04

Anyway, um, the point we saw it on Saturday. You saw it. I saw it on Saturday, yeah. The point of the story of Rob, Rob took me, he takes me to all the good stuff. Yeah, okay. He's taking me to something else this week. I can't remember what it is. But anyway, he takes me to all the good stuff, and so we go, we're standing out front of the theater, and he sees this woman, he goes, Oh my god, I can't remember her name now. And he goes, Ah, she's like this tall. And she comes up, it's Ariana Grande's fucking mother. Oh, so I'm chatting because she goes to the room. Oh, because Frankie's in it, right, right, right. Right. She goes to every fucking show that Frankie sat in the front row, and she, we're just all of a sudden, we're chatting, and I'm like, she's so adorable. She's like, I mean, tiny, and what she's like telling stories and stuff, and she's like, um, well, all right, this is some tea, which I thought was interesting.

SPEAKER_01 27:49

But then we just said you don't spell.

SPEAKER_02 27:51

Yeah, no, the next night was the opening, and Ariana wasn't gonna come to it because she was rehearsing for her tour. And I thought, wouldn't if your brother was debuting on Broadway and you're it's your tour, then you're not one of the dancers where you can't leave.

SPEAKER_01 28:04

I'm taking off Friday night because I gotta go. You're like, by the way, we don't do this night because I gotta do my brother on the back.

SPEAKER_02 28:10

So let's see if she shows because I thought, is there something going on where she doesn't want to? It's a three-week run for him. The show doesn't have a three-week run. I think it's only three weeks. Oh, it's a limited run? Limited engagement, yeah. So anyway, and so Ariane's mom, well, Frankie's mom, I'll say that because we were at his show. I think it's respectful, and she was there for him. She's such a sweet lady, and she's telling us stories, and she's like, Well, you know, she Rob's like, she's not coming to the opening, and she's like, No, you know, she's you know, rehearsing for her tour. And I said, Well, she's not gonna dance like Madonna. Yeah, so what is she gonna do? Like, rehearse high notes, she's got them, yeah. And then she's like, you know, well, you know, and then she's got her out surprise album she's dropping like Beyonce. I guess she's an album. She's got his dropping. She's got like an album she's dropping in the next few weeks. It's like a like a surprise album that she's been her like preparing. So I guess there's an Ariana album coming out in the next few weeks.

SPEAKER_01 29:00

Well, the surprise is ruined.

SPEAKER_02 29:02

Uh, that's what we're here for.

SPEAKER_01 29:03

Oh, okay. All right, okay. You're not spilling any tea, but Aria Grande is coming out with an album. But that this is me dinking what is it, dunking my scone because the tea is so hot. But do you think she didn't show up because like I mean, she is of like astronomical fame, right? Like everyone loves it. Do you think people expected her because her brother's in the show to show up?

SPEAKER_02 29:21

People I told the story to, I only told it of three or four people. They were like, well, maybe she won't pull focus. It's like, you know, when your brother's in a show, you pull focus because you want to promote that show. If they can't open the balcony, you show up. She can sit on the balcony. Yeah, yeah. I'm sorry, you show up for your brother's show. Yeah, yeah. I know I'm it's not like you're pulling focus and that you're going on stage. I bet he watched Wicked. Hello. He probably goes to her concert. Probably. I like Frankie. We've been texting. I sits in the balcony. Yeah, he's a good kid. I mean, he you've been texting? Did he come up to the apartment? No. Oh, okay. No.

SPEAKER_01 29:53

That was a lot of Marie. And there's no doubt. Oh, is Frankie the one playing the fiance?

SPEAKER_02 30:01

He's Victor Garber. Oh, he's the shipbuilder? Yeah, totally. And he also plays uh Super Mario.

SPEAKER_01 30:07

Because every time I've seen Super Mario, every time I've seen it, the the shipbuilder's the captain. It's like a double, like there's no shipbuilder in this. Isn't that Victor Garber's role? He's the guy who built the ship? No, he's the captain. Okay, yeah, so it's still the dual. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so he was did you catch what was going on in that?

SPEAKER_02 30:29

Never seen the movie.

unknown 30:30

Fuck me.

SPEAKER_02 30:31

Don't do what Stella does. I'm not gonna do it.

SPEAKER_00 30:33

You have never seen Titanic.

SPEAKER_02 30:37

So anyway, it's um it was great. I love it. I love how much you hate when people do that too. I hate it. Because you lived without a TV for like two decades. Because I had a life. Yes. I was reading books. I was reading Dostoevsky. I wasn't watching Darmant and Greg because I was listening to Darm and Greg is. I was reading The Idiot while other people were watching Darmant and Greg. I was good. I just killed my hands over here. Yeah, that's like that's gonna be the only instrument I can play, except for the ones that I was playing upstairs. So, anyway, long story short, it was really uh I have to say, if you can if you get to you know, chance to see Titanic. It's it I heard it was so much better on Broadway from people that have seen it. The girl who plays Celine Dion is so good.

SPEAKER_01 31:28

Well, she wrote it with Constantine.

SPEAKER_02 31:30

She's so good. Constantine's great, she's great. Give me Constantine's number one. We're done, by the way. I want to get that number.

SPEAKER_01 31:36

Um, yeah, right. You're gonna have to get it out of my dead hands. Well, no, I'll get it out of your hands. Uh Marla, Marla Mandel. She's so good. So Marla and Connie wrote it together.

SPEAKER_02 31:44

They're so good.

SPEAKER_01 31:45

She's hysterical. She's so good in that. So good. I mean, they're really great. And his pants couldn't be tighter. I mean, they put him in the tightest pair of slacks. How old is he? Uh I think Connie and I are the same age.

SPEAKER_02 31:58

I think he's like 42. Okay. So, yeah, anyway, um, they're they're all incredible. Jim Parsons was a standout. Yeah, they have this whole thing where he improvises this like crazy breakdown. It's really fucking funny.

SPEAKER_01 32:09

It's amazing. I have to do that. And it's new, like there's so many new ad libs every night in that show, which I love. I find hysterical.

SPEAKER_02 32:15

They did a whole thing about Christy Nome's husband.

SPEAKER_01 32:17

Yeah, yeah. And where she like, it was so fucking funny. And unless they don't have anything else to do, you won't hear that again. Like they keep it really good.

SPEAKER_02 32:25

Jim Parsons walked across the stage at one point and gave you clearly Discord. You know, Discord, you don't know Discord. Yeah, Discord from Drag Race. Oh, the walk. You wouldn't know it. I was like, the word? I know what Discord, the walk off stage, and the audience that got it were howling. It's just I I I really had it. I was impressed.

SPEAKER_01 32:45

Maybe I'll go see. Oh no, I have to go to Fire Island tomorrow. I'm I'm gonna have to see it. Yeah, totally. I can't, you know. Speaking of gay theater, have you seen anything else that's like gay theater? I'm going to the jellic wall. We just oh, I'm so jealous.

SPEAKER_02 32:58

Yeah, I know. I had tickets for it originally, but they got feline aid to COVID. So they had to cancel it. I think it was feline aids. I can't remember. They literally canceled the show because I thought it was feline aids, but it was COVID. The whole cast was out.

SPEAKER_01 33:10

Because I was when I was at the Skurball. I think it's called The Pearl. Is it the case? No, it's the Skurball. No, no. When they originally did the Jellico Ball, that big beautiful theater downtown. I think it's is it called the Pearl? Pearlman. Pearlman. The Pearlman. I was close. Yeah, yeah. It it it's this, yeah, it's this incredible, like it can move into like 17 different styles depending on if they're doing an opera or a show or orchestra or not the sphere? No, that's in Vegas.

SPEAKER_02 33:40

No, the spheres right here, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 33:42

The one in uh I don't think so. Sphere's in Vegas. Oh, that's the bird.

SPEAKER_02 33:46

What's the one right here?

SPEAKER_01 33:47

The edge. The edge. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's a platform off of a building on the third center.

SPEAKER_02 33:51

What's the theater there called? At the edge? There's a theater in that building. It's called like the The Shed. The Shed. There it is. I'm tired of these one-word things. I liked it when things had like the mud club. It had three words. You know, there you go. Red I N-Y.

SPEAKER_01 34:07

Yeah, real simple. Yeah, it's real simple. Nice theater upstairs. Definitely. Come see our shows. They're great. Um, but no, I I really want to see Jellico Ball, so I'm I'm very uh jealous about that. But Sam, Taylor, Jason, Phil, Alex, Alexander. Oh, they went to that uh Beaches. Beaches.

SPEAKER_02 34:23

And how was it?

SPEAKER_01 34:24

Wolf. Bad? Oh, it's terrible. It's terrible. And when I heard that it was a limited run, I was like, Very limited. Too far, too much. Could have closed tomorrow.

SPEAKER_02 34:37

Really?

SPEAKER_01 34:37

Oh, it was so bad. The the performers, I won't take away from them, they're wonderful. And and it's like I I feel like everybody should be honest in the reviews when it's like people are um classically trained and they've got beautiful voices and like they dance well, or and it it's like they can move well, but the choreography sucked. They can sing amazingly, but the uh the lyrics or the composition is shit. Like, and it wasn't I think they tried to all it feels like gaslighting the gays because if you know the movie Beaches, have you have you seen Beaches? Never. I think she dies. You haven't no kidding. You've never seen Beaches, but basically, what they did is like them meeting together as children and her dying in the end, spoiler alert, and then everything else was like a different story, just to like put it up on its feet on stage, and it was Sam will tell you, and Sam's a hard critic, you know. We don't always agree on his theater reviews, but a whole hard him and Phil left, I think, at like I think they left at intermission. Oh, that's bad. Yeah, yeah, that's bad. And I was assuming you have to get it.

SPEAKER_02 35:37

I was like, I guess because you have to stay. I was like, I gotta see this to the end. So I don't go to things. A lot of times I get invited to things. I got recently invited, I'm not gonna say, to a couple cabaret shows that people heard I was coming back and they were like, Would you come see our show? Can see our show, come see the show. And I was like, I'll put it in the middle of the show. Well, I always my trick now is this. If you invite me to a show, uh-huh, even if it's your show, right? I always tell people I can only stay for like a half an hour because I have a show after you. So then if it's good, it's bad.

SPEAKER_01 36:05

Oh, I want to see this French show. And then if it's good, you stay and you're like, I canceled all of my plans at intermission. I had to see the rest of it.

SPEAKER_02 36:12

I went to go see this cabaret kid at Birdland not that long ago because his uh Lionel, um this guy Lionel, wrote me and said, 'You don't have to see this kid, he does Edith Piaf.' And I thought, oh god, this sounds horrifying. All French chanson. And I was like, This it sounds like a a white kid who's like 25 years old doing like French chanson. I had an amazing time. Really? I say, I'm gonna stay for 20 minutes. I'll see him that way. I can think about him for Fire Island. I went. David Marino, the kid was. Look him up, he's really great. Okay, he has the voice of Michael Boublet doing in French stuff. Really?

SPEAKER_01 36:44

It was so good that I was like, I can't leave.

SPEAKER_02 36:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 36:47

I love stuff like that, and I feel like it wasn't happening in New York for a while. I feel like there wasn't good stuff right now, yeah. New York is, I have to say, It's having this little renaissance, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 36:56

After being Zibilite, it's like, you know, where there's not a lot going on. There's cheese may, which you know I love. Yeah. Um which is devil wears nada. Yeah, exactly. Which is devil wears there's like, you know, a few things to do, but by and large, I mean, at night, sometimes it was either due cheese may or Jackson.

SPEAKER_01 37:13

And now it's devil's wear nada or upstairs in cocaine. I don't do cocaine anymore.

unknown 37:19

Neither do I.

SPEAKER_02 37:20

All right. So anyway, that was uh trigger warning. We're going to uh take a break. We're gonna come back in just a few minutes with our triggers. Yeah. Of which we have many. Take a break.

SPEAKER_01 37:35

You're back here at Trigger Warning. Um, we're both back in New York City and it's been wonderful. Um, we can wrap this up. Oh, you know what you missed while you were away before we wrap it up in our last segment. We were talking about uh gay theater and whatnot. The Rocky Hore Picture Show 50th anniversary party was amazing. Where was that? Uh they did it at is it the cutting room? The cutting room, I think, is what it's called. Yeah, see Walters Place. I love that. Yeah, yeah. First of all, great place for it. The the New York City cast was so wonderful. They they like honored all of the casts that have come like since it debut. Like a nice thing for Sal Piro. They shouted out the Ice Palace, the Red Eye Guys, Red Eye Tickets. Wow, really? Yeah, it was really, really sweet. And you know, Alex had never seen it, Phil had never seen it. Wait, never seen uh Rocky Horror? Had never uh, you know, I don't know the answer to that, but had never seen like a shadow cast with like everyone screaming in the theater and all the audience participation, throwing rice and the squirt gun and the Cleveland plane dealer, you know.

SPEAKER_02 38:34

Oh, the plane dealer, right?

SPEAKER_01 38:35

Of course. Yeah, it's a big Cleveland thing. And then they did it at the Cedar Lee and whatnot. So I was really happy. And now it's on Broadway. I want to go see it on Broadway.

SPEAKER_02 38:42

I hear it's incredible. And actually, Christine, who's a friend, is like in it, uh Paul Swallow. Oh, nice. Yeah, totally. She really put the swallow in her last name. She's really great. Um, I know Paul for a long time. I'll have a story about that off the air. But um what's what's triggering you lately? Don't deep cut. Do not ask me to do a show with you, a cabaret show with you on Fire Island, and then in the winter write me and say, by the way, I'm doing a show at 54 Below or Birdland or um Lori Beachman or Green Room 42, and would you come see it? Which is all a block away from a club that I own, that's gay owned, that you could be supporting. That seats that seats the same amount of people. We're very busy. That gives you a better ticket. It's not like we're like at this point now where we're bitter because we're not busy. That was probably two years ago. We're at a point now where we're we're successful. But when you ask me and beg me for a date on Fire Island, it's like I want to work with you at the club on the island. So I can have a built-in vacation. Exactly. Yeah, fuck off. And then when I do a show in the city, I'm gonna do it at Green Room 42, which is fine. Uh, you know, 54 below is fine. I mean, it's fine. I like 54 below, but you can't get out of there for less than$200. Correct. Um, uh, what's the other one I mentioned? Birdland. I mean, Birdland, I understand because it's like a legit, but we are a legit music music venue, but most of it if it's 300, so it's different. I'm just I'm sorry. Do not stop being like, oh, that venue closed, and I loved it so much, but I haven't been there in five years, but I loved it so much in New York's changing, and I hate that it's changing, but I didn't go there. But I mean, I don't want it to close because I want to stay open in case once a decade. I want to go now, but I didn't go. And then also don't I stop it. Book things at gay-owned venues, go to gay-owned venues, or don't bitch when they close. It's fine to just not comment when they close. I hate it when there's a venue when people go, Oh, it's so sad. We should start a GoFundMe. No, you shouldn't start a GoFundMe. You should have just gone. You should have gone there before they were helped. Yeah, exactly. Or, you know, like I always wanted to Jackie Beat, who, you know, is the most odious character on the planet. She used to do shows at the Laurie Beachman, she still does, right? I always wanted to just buy every ticket and just sit alone in the theater, and she has to come out. I call her Complain Jane. You watch Drag Race, right? Yeah, Josh. That's Josh, by the way, who I'm gesticulating.

SPEAKER_01 41:18

Or listener, now watcher. You watch Drag Race. Josh, exactly. It's no longer Stella the listener. Now it's Josh.

SPEAKER_02 41:24

The watcher. The watcher that's creepy. The watcher. Did you see that movie? Oh, it's so good. Yeah, Jennifer Coolidge. True story.

unknown 41:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:31

Oh, I didn't know that. Anyway, um, do not be like, oh, and that gave and you close. I'm so sad, but yet I never go. There's a homophobia that happens where people think, and I understand Joe's pub. Joe's pub, I do get. When someone says to me, Come to see my show with Joe's pub, I actually will go for the$19 glass of cheap wine to support. The Kalamari's banging too. But like Unichard understands Unichard, Laura, David, and Michael. I love those guys. They do the Joe's pub for the street cred of like we were at Joe's pub. Then they do two shows here because they understand that you know Joe's isn't gonna probably book them for three shows, but like also that they supporting another queer business. And and these other people write me, and this happened a couple times this week, where their shitty shows were like around the corner, and I'm not gonna go. Yeah, I'll say I'm gonna go. So the seat sits empty, but I'm not gonna go because we have a venue here that you should be supporting. Yeah, I have friends, Justin, Vivian, Bob, Don um Bianca Del Rio, Alan Cumming, who have never walked through that fucking door. And I'm sorry, that's bullshit. If you don't like me, you like Sam, you like Adam, you like Taylor, walk through the door. Don't even we'll comp you a drink, but like don't act like you're friends if you're not gonna support a gay menu. And don't act like you're my friend if you can't do it. Yeah, it's like you know, Justin is Justin, she's always gonna worry about her, you know, her. And Bianca is always gonna worry about her career. You know? Um Alan is famous. I get it. She's on traders. She's on traders, and she's the host and she's the co-producer. Sure. Sure. She's on trainers. Yeah. But I mean, I get it. It's like silent cows on it. But Sam worked for you for years. You should walk through the venue and be like, you know what? I'm gonna come in and like, and the support at you may not, you may be mad at me because I walked from Club Coming and other reasons, which you know I'm never gonna go into until the book, by the way, Every Inch of the Winter, which is coming out this fall. But anyway, um This fall? Yeah, totally. I'm working on it. She set herself a deadline. Well, because I've got these really great writers called A and I.

SPEAKER_01 43:40

I was gonna say because the publishers advance Cleveland.

SPEAKER_02 43:44

They're like, uh tell me a story about betrayal. Now make it gay. Yeah. Growing up in Cleveland, boring. You know, it's just like it was great. No, I um I'm sorry, and it's a good idea. It's a really great idea, Daniel. Exactly. I would suggest. Exactly. I I just Don't want to call out them specifically because there are plenty of people. There are always those people in nightlife who will not support you when you're building a business, then they show up after the business is successful because they want to be seen at that business. Correct. And they're not invited to my 60th birthday in Mexico. None of those people are invited. Yeah. And it's because I don't want you there celebrating when something's successful, which may or may not be in October. But uh I don't I want you to be like a friend. I go to their fucking show. I every one of those people have gone to their shows.

SPEAKER_01 44:32

Yeah. No, absolutely. You've been supportive of everyone. Anyway, that's my story. Yeah. And I and you know, we we bitched at everybody because it's a trigger, but I do want to applaud certain people, like you know, there are like the Bridget Everett's of the world, right? Who are like we saw at O'Mary, and she was like, Anytime, anytime, call me. I'd I'd love to do a show. To her credit, she did it. She did it.

SPEAKER_02 44:52

You know, I have to say, when I saw her at the show. I spoke to her in a I think her manager said she won't do anything with those pop. So when I went to her and I saw her at O'Mary, April, and she was like, I'm not sure. She's like, I'll do Fire Island. And then I wrote her and said, You want to do Fire Island? She's like, I'll do it. And then I remember I lowballed her because I'm so used to the old Bridget, which I'd booked, you know, which is like, hey, girl, you want a couple thousand dollars. And I was like, I lowballed her with like a fee. And she was like, girl, I charged you know more money for Joe's. And I was like, I looked at the numbers at Joe's pub and I was like, I'm sorry, that was embarrassing what I offered you, and I offered her a much higher fee. And then she came and sold the house out and brought it down. Show when she did the climb at the end.

SPEAKER_01 45:33

Oh and I mean, and the and there's one other person, like I'll, you know, it this could be for like financial gain, but I don't care. Use us for financial gain, but like fucking use us head of lettuce. Head of lettuce is like, yeah, I'm gonna come back to the ice powers. What about red eye as well while I'm in the city? Some people had a she's I mean, it's sure. She's smart like that. Yeah, but you know, she's like, I'm in New York, let's fucking work. You got another club, I'll do it. Exactly, totally.

SPEAKER_02 45:58

Well, that's my trigger. So it's just like, you know, don't lament gay venues closing when you don't go there. Then you just shut up. You don't have to say anything. I'm not saying you should you just don't post, like, oh, that's so sad if you didn't go. They'd be like, well, you know what? I never went, so I'm not gonna comment. Yeah, you know, I mean, and the ice spell same thing. Oh, and then my by the way, next week's trigger, I can't wait to talk about it, is the people now that are posting about it.

SPEAKER_01 46:23

Don't give it away, don't give it away. Don't give it away. Don't give it away. Okay, don't give it away. Because then you'll go off about it. You're just getting it.

SPEAKER_02 46:32

By the way, that the what you just don't give it away, don't give it away. That was what the dancer did. The noise you just made. Don't give it away.

SPEAKER_00 46:39

Don't give away give me a long time between me.

SPEAKER_01 46:48

Disgusting. Anyway. Disgusting. Do you have a trigger that's I do? So I was I was recently in Cleveland, Ohio for some family shit. Uh you know, family that you know you and I have kind of like run from. Um, and I could go off about my mother because she's uh my birth mother is yeah, she's not gonna watch this, so I could go off about that. But I thought one better because any any gay guy can talk about how terrible their Midwestern mom is, and you know, I think she's just locking her ways. This is gonna sound really simple compared to what you just you know uh gave us, but like voice memos as opposed to a text, it's like in this purgatory gray area of like I don't like phone calls unless we've said, hey, let's have a phone call. It's on my calendar at six o'clock, and I'm gonna call you and whatnot. And it's like I'm trying to get answers and we're texting, and then there's a text back, and then we're texting, and then there's a text back, and then there's nothing, and then there's a voice memo of like it's never like oh that sounds great. Sorry, I'm up on a ladder. No, it's like two fucking minutes. It's oh totally, yeah. Why I don't want to hold my I'm I'm most commonly am I in an area where I can't use the speaker, I don't want to hold the phone to my fucking head for two minutes, listen to your rambling on your random thoughts, your stream of consciousness. Yeah, totally like text me a hundred percent. And and it's it's really like I've noticed a Mexico thing.

SPEAKER_02 48:14

Well, our contractor in Mexico for Temple does it all the time. I just won't listen to them. And then he and then he writes. I really need to talk to you guys. I was like, like, call me. Great. Here call me. Here we are talking about. I answer my phone.

SPEAKER_01 48:24

Here we are talking right now.

SPEAKER_02 48:25

Right, exactly. But I'm also like, he just wrote me now. Can we talk? Yeah, absolutely. And the reason he does that is I think because who's here? I wouldn't answer. It's not what our naked yoga instructors here. Oh, he's so sexy. You think so? You know, a lot of guys find him sexy. You don't? I'm not saying I don't. That's triggering. I know him from a different way. I I first of all, I don't find me stamp my pen in company ink like you do. It's true. I stamp it. You totally do. Yeah, exactly. And that's why you're stained. That's why you're stained. And there you have it, kids.

SPEAKER_01 48:57

That's trigger warning. Uh, write a fucking text. Nobody likes a fucking voice memo. If you want me to hear your voice and you want to hear mine, let's plan a fucking phone call. Look at that. And also, don't beg to be at the ice palace. It's beneath you. Book a show at Red Eye, and maybe we'll work you up to the Ice Palace. Exactly. Yeah.

unknown 49:14

All right.

SPEAKER_02 49:14

Thank you guys.

SPEAKER_01 49:15

It's so good having you back. Josh, I love being in the studio with you. You're now watching Trigger Warning. I'm Adam Clesh.

SPEAKER_02 49:22

Uh I'm I'm Daniel Ardiccio. Thank you for listening.

SPEAKER_01 49:29

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SPEAKER_02 50:05

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