Fire Island’s Ice Palace Revival, Nightlife Chaos, Deviled Eggs and Ariel Sinclair

Welcome back to Trigger Warning — where nothing is sacred, especially not deviled eggs.

This week Adam and I spiral from the Ice Palace coffee bar in Cherry Grove to my now‑iconic deviled egg fascinator (unfortunately real), and the scandal of deviled eggs disappearing from a memorial servcice.

I share my full Kylie Minogue “Timebomb” couture meltdown — jacket, boots, limited‑edition bag — give updates on our Zipolite, Mexico property, including buying the parcel next door (with water, thank God), rumors of neighborhood gold, and yes… casitas are for sale. Real estate mogul era loading.

By the way, we are offering a special deal for Trigger Warning fans, so email me at Daniel@TheCasaOasis.com for details

We also cover Adam working at an event  where Madonna casually appeared at a Macy’s for KIKO Milano.

Then we welcome the legendary Ariel Sinclair — Miss Fire Island 2002 and longtime Ice Palace performer — to talk about the full revival of the Ice Palace Fire Island: from toxic chaos to spiritual reset, sage included. New ownership, upgraded production, better energy, revived coffee bar — and why Fire Island nightlife is officially back.

Plus:
 • Liza Minnelli and Patti LuPone supremacy moments
 • Legendary Cherry Grove memories
 • Underwear party survival strategy
 • Last‑minute comp beggars (no)
 • Socks with sandals (illegal)
 • Pride Month queerbaiting (absolutely not)

It’s glamorous. It’s petty. It’s gay therapy.

 Email me at Daniel@TheCasaOasis.com for details on the Trigger Warning Special 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_08 0:00

You know what I love about Trigger Warning, the podcast? That I heard the word hullabaloo. You said it earlier. You never hear that word anymore. I know.

SPEAKER_01 0:07

Hullabaloo is a good word. Yeah, totally. Well, it yes, that's a word of the week. Oh my God. You know, I was really tired before, Adam. And then I got some of this. And then I got some of this Ice Palace coffee.

SPEAKER_04 0:27

Yeah. You know, we really spent the extra penny getting that La Marca espresso machine.

SPEAKER_01 0:32

It was $30,000 to buy a La Marca espresso machine, the one that we have at the Ice Palace. Uh that gave us this delicious, delicious, refreshing beverage. Oh, can you hear it? It's so good. It's so good. Uh anyway, you're listening to Trigger Warning. My name is Daniel Nardiccio. I'm Adam Clash. And uh we are finally doing this. We're finally doing the exactly. We've tried a few times. This is like the third take, but we're so good. We're just so on it. We're on it. We got it figured out now. Crackpot. Now, Adam, you were asking me before we started why I'm wearing this.

SPEAKER_04 1:08

Yeah, I was asking why I'm wearing it.

SPEAKER_01 1:10

You know what this is for? You know what the story on this is?

SPEAKER_04 1:12

Is there an alarm going off?

SPEAKER_01 1:14

I think we're fine. We can keep going. We don't need to keep stopping.

SPEAKER_04 1:17

Listener, you may hear bells and whistles.

SPEAKER_01 1:19

Yeah. Ring them bells. Uh I uh uh we had Sister Helen Holy three weeks ago here on the island. Three weeks ago. Three weeks ago, yeah. It was Memorial Day weekend, so basically three three weeks ago. And I bought this from London. It is a doubled egg. And I decided to wear it. And it's handmade from London, and it ended up showing up in the mail.

SPEAKER_04 1:41

Uh I thought that was the fabric. They actually put like paprika on.

SPEAKER_01 1:45

Stitching and paprika. Yeah, she's cunt. Yeah. So anyway, in honor of that, for our guest today, I actually brought some doubled eggs. And look at that, delicious. They don't look so good, but they're really good. Um honey, they could be fucking roadkill. I love a deviled eggs.

SPEAKER_04 2:01

I'm sure they are. I'm true.

SPEAKER_01 2:02

Really? Really? I'm gonna have one. You're gonna have one? I'm gonna have one. This is so funny. We're acting like this is the first time he did that. We did this before, but we didn't actually hit record because we like that here.

SPEAKER_04 2:13

It's like when you're doing like bad takes of a commercial and you have to keep eating.

SPEAKER_01 2:16

Okay. This is like the Josh is like the Mr. Magoo of podcast production. Josh will flip some rose. Do not ever let me use that fucking mic. It tastes like Ohio. Oh, yeah, totally. A hundred percent.

SPEAKER_04 2:31

It's like weddings and funerals wrapped into one little bite. Totally. Well, it either's a party till the devil's egg tray comes out.

SPEAKER_01 2:38

Well, you know why uh I have that is not because I actually uh made him. I actually went to Bobby Green, R.I.P. Bobby Green, who is a deer, uh, she was on the fire department here, uh one of our favorite people on the island. And I rushed back from Mexico and I drove to uh and then I came out and went to the community house for Bobby Green's memorial. Unfortunately, I missed it was towards the very end. Yeah, but I was lucky enough to see that they had doubled eggs and there were like eight left, and so I walked over Bobby. I'll take some doubled eggs. Yeah, and I started just pulling my plates like gotta run. Love you, love you before Southern ladies, love you be. I know totally throw it in your purse. Miss you be eggs were great. I know it was so it was so it looked crazy, but I thought, oh my god, I'm wearing, I'm gonna wear this hat for the podcast or this uh fascinator. Wait, God, it kind of hurts. I love that word. Fascinator? Yeah, fascinator. It's not you commonly used. I heard fascinator first on um Catherine Kim, the Australian TV show. Not not an interesting thing. So um, not an interesting story.

SPEAKER_04 3:40

Uh speaking of Australia, would you like to tell the listeners and watcher um about your little spending spree? Like I feel like you're transitioning into Kylie Minogue. You're really gonna embarrass me. I was absolutely so as many of you might know. We're gonna put it right here. Josh is gonna put it right here. Um, each one of your purchases. So let's let's go from do you want to go from bottom to top or top to bottom?

SPEAKER_01 4:04

So uh I fell in love with Kylie Minogue about three weeks ago. I have friends that are obsessed. I'm not obsessed or wasn't obsessed, but now I love me some Kylie Minogue. I even made you watch a little of the documentary. It's so good. So thank you. It's so good. So uh, and this will lead us into our next uh next segment, which has something to do with you and a much, much, much older pop star. So Kylie uh has this I watched it, I fell in love with it. I just fell in love with her energy or enthusiasm, but I also think she's so fucking banging. And I'm you know, as I've said before, she looks incredible. She looks incredible. She cancer twice, and she still looks better than what our old Frap is what I call or old Frap instead of gold frap, the band. I call it our special guest. I call old Frap. But anyway. She's just give it away, you're gonna have to blip that toast John. So anyway, uh we're making her work in season two. Kylie's thing was so great, and then I watched the time bomb video, and I fell in love with this coat that she wears, which is that video is so good. I had never seen it, and you showed it. It's so good. The time bomb video is one of the coolest, sexiest. You can tell it's like not high budget, and it makes it even cooler because it's so creative.

SPEAKER_04 5:13

Stealing phones, running away.

SPEAKER_01 5:16

Yeah, flipping tables, driving in a car. She gets in the car and she goes, drive. And like so not Kylie Minogue. So Kylie, but but in that video it is because she's wearing the jacket. So, me, I'm in Mexico. Uh Adam and I were there all week. And uh, and I'm in Mexico and I think to myself. All week I was there for 31 hours.

SPEAKER_04 5:34

Totally well. I was there all week. 24 hours down to Mexico, 31 hours of business meetings, 28 hours back. I know it's very classic.

SPEAKER_01 5:42

Daniel had to clean up his mess. Uh I feel bad. The cleaning went, the clean, he finally left, and the cleaning would come in and they go, Oh, how do you? I made her sound Chinese. She's she says, Hodicana, Adam? Who are coming here, Adam? Why am I making so Chinese? Because you can't do a Scottish accent. I can only do, I can only do Chinese. I can't do I can't do Spanish accent. So anyway. I don't think we should do accents, but that's all right. Abby, it's all right. Okay, so item number one, we're gonna Josh go. He's gonna pop it right here. So anyway, I went online and I thought, where can you buy the time bomb jacket? And I found a place that makes the time bomb jacket from Kylie Minogue. And then he asked me what size he should be in the uh well, I wear a small, but a medium feels so good, I bought a large. So anyway, um And the double X will go much further. Exactly. They actually wrote me and says double X because it's a woman's jacket. Whatever, I'm gonna buy it anyway. Judging by the size of your email. Exactly. By the size of your font because your eyes are going. Judging by the size of your font, we're gonna guess you're in your mid to late 50s. We suggested dual XL. The guy said there's one letter per screen he has to roll.

SPEAKER_02 6:53

He oh, I like two.

SPEAKER_01 7:01

So I bought the county minotaur. I'm gonna be like jabbing myself with the fucking GLP ones.

SPEAKER_04 7:10

I can't tell you guys how excited I was watching him buy all these things because I was like, I'm going to look so good in all of that.

SPEAKER_01 7:17

That's the thing, is that I buy clothes that I like, but then I end up buying them online all the time. And if they don't fit me, I just give them to him because by the time you try to send them back, you don't get it back. And then I put them on and you're like, God damn it. It looks good on you. It does actually.

SPEAKER_04 7:30

But this jacket will probably end up going to Alex, who's like a third of miles.

SPEAKER_01 7:34

They actually wrote me afterward and they said, Is this a man? And I said, I don't know. Is that a man? Exactly. I said, You're like, I'm in my transition trying to become Kylie Minogue. No, I'm gonna be Danny Minogue. It's taken. I'll be Danny with a Y.

SPEAKER_04 7:51

Okay, so boom, here's our jacket.

SPEAKER_01 7:53

The jacket is I bought the jacket, and then I found these fucking cunt boots that will go with the jacket. I'm buying all clothes that you can't wear in Mexico when I'm moving to Mexico September 15th, so what am I doing? But whatever. These boots are so tasty. They've got uh, as you can see here, um they've got leather, like casting leather. But the steel boot, the steel boot, the heel has an indentation where the the uh the what is it called? The the tie thing. What do you call it? The shoelist goes through the back of the it's really cunt. You'll see it.

SPEAKER_04 8:23

And she has to accessorize. So you got a I don't remember what the third is. The bag, girl. Oh, the bag.

SPEAKER_01 8:31

Oh, the bag.

SPEAKER_04 8:32

You got this like is it blue leather sleeves?

SPEAKER_01 8:34

Blue leather, and this German artist painted supposedly they're only 50, and supposedly I got the last one by the way.

SPEAKER_02 8:42

When you got the email after buying it, they were like, Congratulations, you got the last of a limited 50. And I was like, sure, girl.

SPEAKER_01 8:51

That's a ghana percent.

SPEAKER_02 8:52

How many other people got that email?

SPEAKER_01 8:54

It's like when people uh go to buy casitas, which you know, we of course. Which jacket?

SPEAKER_04 9:00

The jacket was not the sale.

SPEAKER_01 9:00

Oh, the Kylie jacket.

SPEAKER_04 9:01

Well, of course, the time box came out.

SPEAKER_01 9:03

The last bag, and then the jacket was $300 off. But because the Kylie Minogue video was like a decade ago. So of course he's probably thinking, girl, like you really, you know. Nana. Yeah, yeah, but late to the party. But that's why it'll be cool. No one will remember. When I have the funniest look when I look. Well, it's time.

SPEAKER_04 9:22

I'm more excited for how I'm going to look into it.

SPEAKER_01 9:24

Totally. Well, totally. Well, you already dress like a child. Every time you buy shoes online, I get them.

SPEAKER_04 9:29

So I'm very excited for that.

SPEAKER_01 9:30

The other thing when I mentioned Sipolite, which is really exciting, is and I probably shouldn't make this public, but I'm going to, is we own about three acres up in the mountains overlooking Zipolite, which is like farmland. Well, now we own a little more because Mama doesn't know how to keep her wallet in her mouth. I bought a little something extra, but I bought the neighboring property, but it was it was a deal. I had to because it had water on it. These are the things I think about these days. But anyway, come to find out, up at that property uh in the mountains, my neighbor, two properties over, found gold. Like a big fucking piece of gold and was able to like a bowling ball. Like a bowling ball, basically, of gold. And was able to sell some of it and build a hotel. He's built his own taste.

SPEAKER_04 10:08

Would I think all right with a gold tooth? Can I put a gold tooth here? Is that too much?

SPEAKER_01 10:12

Yeah, they're already yellow. So anyway, he um what? A dump. He already uh so he's already sold this gold. And so uh, you know, something like that. I looked at the gold. So I'm all excited, right? And I'm thinking to myself, I'm going back in a couple weeks and I'm gonna get one of those metal detectors. You and I are gonna be like boo-boo. Well, the funny thing is, is that I told my my friends, I said, I think I'm gonna hire a couple of minors, and then of course his ears pick prick up because he's thinking kids under 20, and I'm like, I was like, oh, there's an E in there. Oh the minor with an E, not the minor with an O. And then he's like, then he puts the Grammar joke. He puts the trimix away, and he's like, Oh well. So anyway. Get him next time. Anyway, in my uh dotage, you know what that is, right? No, it's the reclining, uh, declining mental faculties. I've decided Oh, it explains a lot. Totally. In my dotage, I uh as a you know, person's declining mental faculties, I decided to buy the neighboring property, which was not a lot of money, and I I'm not made of money, it just sounds like it, but I'm paying it off over time. Is that why you're always doting on me? Yeah, doting. Dotage, exactly. I think it means that you're doting, you should be doting on me, but it's never happened. Anyway, that's the story. But you got us water. We got water for the property up in the mountains, which means we can now build the farm that we've been dreaming of. And that was the polite. It was a big week, a lot of meetings. It was really great. I had a blast. And now I'm back and I'm getting ready for this week. The Robin Bird documentary is Tuesday night. It's gonna be great. I think I'm actually gonna stay on the island for Tuesday night. They're doing a free screening of it. You're not just grabbing your money and hitting it? Uh no. Wow. I'll stay occasionally. Wow. Um time together. Yeah, totally. Um, we did already. Uh-huh. Um, we had a pool, our own private pool at our hotel, which is really, really fun.

SPEAKER_04 12:01

Amazing. It was so like white girl, like. Like, totally. It was very good. So we get out of bed, and there was like sliding doors to like walk out to like the trees in the ocean. And then on the right was just like another set of doors where you could just like step into the pool.

SPEAKER_01 12:15

Yeah, it was really lovely. It felt very Scarfacey. Um like that house we went to. We went to some house that I really felt like I was in Scarface. But anyway, um you digress. Yeah, anyway, great. Can we talk about um Okay? So, what I wanted to mention was Kylie Minogue is my my queen, and I'm not saying this person's your queen, but I do have to say this was so hilarious. Adam worked for Old Frap this week. Go ahead, bring her in. She's not our guest, but she's not what in the AI is this?

SPEAKER_04 12:48

Do you want to girl? Girl, would you like to be on the podcast?

SPEAKER_01 12:51

Do you want to put it between us so that we have her?

SPEAKER_04 12:53

Betwixt.

SPEAKER_01 12:53

Madonna broke them up.

SPEAKER_04 12:55

I'm gonna hit the storage unit above. Oh, there we go. There we go. There she is.

SPEAKER_01 13:00

Not a wrinkle, not a I mean, look at this. Does this look, it even has that glow of like it's like a cartoon.

SPEAKER_04 13:08

There's so much airbrushing, it explains the hurricane happening outside. Absolutely. Exactly. It's but she kept her roots, which I thought was good. Yeah, I mean it's it tastes. She doesn't. Is that why you're wearing your your Oh no, I was wearing this for our guest today. Oh, okay, because she's wearing somewhat similar. No, I had to, I got a last minute call to do um I do like a bunch of production shit and whatnot, and I got a last minute call. My friend David and I are known as the unfuckers, so people call us like she was supposed to have an event at the end of July, and they were like, they need to do it now. It's gotta happen now. And so it had to happen in June, and it ended up falling on the same night that Donald Cheeto fuck was uh going to the Knicks game. So you've got Madison Square Garden getting uh 47, uh, and he brought Cardi B or his daughter, I can't remember who he brought, whatever, but it was a big fucking hubble baloo. And then just a block over at Macy's, you've got uh Madge over here, and Honey DeJan is spinning. So it was like New York City was just like if you were claustrophobic, it wasn't your jam, let's just say that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was very happy to be in the basement of Macy's. I could imagine like it was really good at that.

SPEAKER_01 14:17

It was a two-day build. You don't have any pictures that we could put up for the viewers of the bag. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 14:21

I'll put up with that.

SPEAKER_01 14:22

That'd be fun because people should see what you do in your day when you're not um here when I'm actually working.

SPEAKER_04 14:27

When you're not here blathering on the so that was my that was my night with Madonna. It was great. She was there for 17 minutes. She walked by, she looked at me, and she saw like all excess pass, and she went I thank you. Just walked in, her glam team ran up to her, she had a glass of champagne, she went on stage, danced behind Honey DeJoun, gave her a kiss, walked out. 17 minutes. And she made a lot of money, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_02 14:51

You don't have to disclose how much.

SPEAKER_04 14:52

I won't disclose the amount, but what you know what's really interesting? You don't pay Madonna anymore. You pay Madonna's charities. That's smart. But you know, the charity fuels the plane and buys a lot of. So basically, yeah, yeah, totally. But she's doing good for the world. I don't even know what her charities are, but great. Something with Milano. But I mean, shout out if you want to give us some sponsorship money. It was for this brand called Kiko Milano, which I guess is now like the number one brand in Italy and it's taking over Europe. And so they were opening up their makeup counter at Macy's, which is a big deal. Macy's is getting into Macy's is like the alcoholic equivalent of getting into Bevmo.

SPEAKER_01 15:24

Correct. You're getting into like the big league. You're there. You are a player. Well, that's great. So you were busy. Well, I was slaving away up here on the island trying to get this fucking.

SPEAKER_04 15:33

Well, then I left at three o'clock in the morning from this gig and flew down to Zippolite to meet you. Yeah, that was it was fucking horrible.

SPEAKER_01 15:38

We met with our contractor, we met with the restaurant manager, we met with all of our different vendors, we met with all these people. It was like meeting, meeting, meeting, meeting, meeting. It was so much fun. I had a blast. Literally, the day before, people were sending me videos of torrential rain. Oh, it's just like, amigo, you're not you're never gonna make it down here. Flight's gonna be canceled. So literally, in at three o'clock in the morning, I wake up the day up and I'm thinking, well, I gotta trust the airlines, right? I'm not gonna I'm not gonna, it's not me to cancel my so I think I'll go airlines airlines exactly. But I'm also looking at it thinking, I don't like turbulence. Not that anyone loves turbulence, but I'm thinking that that kind of weather, there's gonna be some fucking turbulence. I was nervous.

SPEAKER_04 16:15

I always feel like I'm on a roller coaster. I'm like, woohoo! Yeah, sure. I even like take my seatbelt a little looser and I'm like, come on, let's fucking do this.

SPEAKER_01 16:23

Yeah, no, I just I don't know. I like to sleep on a plane. So I took my outavan, I got to the airport, I kept thinking any minute's gonna say canceled. I took a budget airline because this was like a last minute. Did you take an Atavan? I got it from Mexico after that. No, but I mean you have to take a sleeping additive. I don't, but I like to. Really? Because when I get on a plane, I like to sleep and I was sleep, I I sleep. I'm like a fucking narcoleptic. I wake up, we start taxiing and I'm like, Yeah, exactly. But but Adavan helps me. Oh, okay. Particularly when I just woke up, because sometimes I woke up, wake up by the time I get there and what anyway. Because I take Adavan and try and fight through it for a good dance party, but not on a plane. No, it was a it was a great flight. I got down there and then the weather was incredible. The rain had stopped, it was fresh, it was clean, it was beautiful, and then I got to check our plan uh property and you know flood. And speaking of Zipalite, here's a special message from Adam I about Zipalite from Zipalite. We'll be right back.

SPEAKER_03 17:17

The cavalry of Ride.

SPEAKER_00 17:44

Uh we're gonna be offering trigger warning uh let's go and monitor deal. We have building the features down here, you can over feature paradigm. You can reach out to me at Daniel at LotasOasis.com, and there's a link to it right here. And there's a link to it right here, and we'll give you a little special detail.

SPEAKER_04 18:16

Alright, you're back at Trigger Warning NYC. I'm Adam Clesh. And I'm Daniel Nerdiccio. So we've had a lot of legends, a lot of stars. We've had some real oomph on this show. Yeah. Until now. And we've had a few.

SPEAKER_01 18:30

We had a few.

SPEAKER_04 18:31

But I'm very excited to read this cue card that Daniel's written for me. I love this person. We get to work with this person every summer. Um, truly part of the family. I mean, uh, if you haven't made it out to the Ice Palace and done bingo or a pool show or whatnot, you are missing out on some like grade A chef's kiss drag comedy. So funny. So funny. Ariel Sinclair is a legendary Fire Island drag entertainer and longtime queen of the Ice Palace, known for her quick wit, impeccable comedic timing, and unforgettable live performances. You did well on this. Ariel has been a beloved fixture of Fire Island nightlife for more than three decades. Her unique blend of humor, music, and glamour has made her one of the most recognizable and cherished performers in the LGBTQ community. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the mic, Ariel Sinclair.

SPEAKER_08 19:24

Oh my God, guys. My contact lenses are so dry. But I don't need to lubricate them because I just teared up. That was so nice of you. That was so nice of you. Now, can I say something back that's very nice? Of course. Go ahead. Before we get any further, yes, I would love a devil dead. I'm gonna give it the seat touch. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 19:42

Got it?

SPEAKER_08 19:43

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 19:43

You can have as many as you can. What is wrong with that, girl? Don't be what is there, war? I know. That's a good.

SPEAKER_02 19:51

Oh, wait, wait.

SPEAKER_08 19:52

Let me tell you something. I stay up late at night watching Taylor Warning on Repeat. Eating double legs. But now, yes, I've been here at the Ice Palace for 32 years. And, you know, in the beginning it was a lot of fun and everything, but then it got really ugly. It got very toxic. Let me finish that.

SPEAKER_01 20:14

I was just gonna say that well, yeah. Let me finish.

SPEAKER_08 20:17

But I also have um it's probably looks a little watered.

SPEAKER_04 20:26

There it is, girl.

SPEAKER_08 20:27

There was like towards the end, I'm not gonna name names, but it I I don't build a few. This building, the ice pal, she's a she, and I just I would see black sludge on top of her, like because she was suffering. She was like, I want to keep going, but I can't because so much toxic energy. Everybody was just like horrible, like negative, and just it just wasn't working. And then when they sold it, and there was like a couple of people up for the grabs, and I knew Daniel, like, always put his heart and soul into it whenever you did the underwear party. And when you bought it, I told you this story a million times. When I walked up that ramp the first time, I was like, oh my god, that negative energy was gone. It was gone because you believed in the building and you believed in the ice palace.

SPEAKER_04 21:12

So don't let money-grabbing cocksuckers buy our queer safe spaces. Thank you. If you are trying to get blood out of a stone from the gays, you can fuck off.

SPEAKER_01 21:22

Yeah. Well, it's uh, and I agree. I had it took a it took a sage stick about this big to get rid of the age.

SPEAKER_08 21:30

We remember smelling them like, what is this? Something's burning. Oh no, it's age.

SPEAKER_04 21:33

We have this we have this guy, um Scott McPherson, I think was his name. Yeah. I knew Scott from the legit. It was bad. He came out and he saged all of our spaces. He saged red eye and he saged the ice bell.

SPEAKER_08 21:44

Because if you feel energy, most of us do, you know, we know when it's bad coming at us, we know when it's good coming at us, but when you feel it like in your home and you're like, oh boy, this is yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:55

Nobody should have to uh walk into such an amazing space. We say it all the time. Time, but it is so important that people remember and know if you're a first time listener watcher, this is the world's first and oldest LGBTQ plus dance club.

SPEAKER_08 22:11

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 22:11

And nobody should have to feel like when they come to work, you shouldn't walk into the door of this place and be like, all right, let's get through this. And that's what that vibe was.

SPEAKER_08 22:20

And for the first time, once you took over, the first time in years, I've been here 32 years. The first time in years, I heard things like, Great job, we appreciate you. Thank you. Like I didn't hear that for a long time. Yeah. And that was, I know.

SPEAKER_04 22:35

I mean, you know, I've told you this a million times. I make it a point that every time I'm here, whether it's it's bingo or it's uh the Thursday shows or Hadalettus or the Judy's or the Friday Night Underwear Party or Mother Disco, I walk around to every single employee. My brother does as well, Sam and Taylor. And you ask them if they want to fuck. Yes. Well I'm done with the done with the other employee. You're next. Uh no, but I walk around to every employee. I walk with employees.

SPEAKER_08 22:57

That's very popular in the sense.

SPEAKER_04 22:58

It's in the September. Yes. Um, no, but I walk around to every employee and I'm like, thank you. Thank you. Yeah, thank you.

SPEAKER_08 23:05

And it really means that little thank you means so much to someone that's like, you know, well, and I mean it as well.

SPEAKER_01 23:10

Because performers I I by nature, like they you need to give people positive reinforcement when they work for you, particularly when I hate to say it, they're making you money, you're making them money the more that we the our visions align and then we're all up. Then and it's not even about making money, it's about making the customer happy. Like we have really focused on what putting that front area, putting in the coffee bar. For me, that was a personal project, the coffee bar, because in the mornings this place was depressing. And you know, it's opened at noon, but even at noon it was kind of depressing. And then I thought, what if we had a place where people could come in the morning and sit and have a coffee in the music and read a book, and read a book exactly on the couch.

SPEAKER_08 23:48

Yeah, we've got a lot of country.

SPEAKER_01 23:49

We've got the free library, people it's really great. So we really and we've got a lot of weekends.

SPEAKER_05 23:54

People like the coffee is like amazing.

SPEAKER_01 23:57

Yeah, we really did, we really did go up all out with the coffee, but it was important because I always say this. You had a vision. I had a vision. But what happened was, and I've said this maybe on the podcast before, but it was 12, 13 years ago. I was leaving the island, and this isn't to denigrate anyone, but over at Cherries, they had a Liza Minnelli impersonator. And I remember I was waiting for the boat to leave, and I looked over and thought, why don't we have why can't we have the real Liza Minelli? We're like gay people with a lot of money, or some of us have a lot of money. Why can't we have the real Liza Minnelli? And that's when I began to do what I do, which is to bring out these big names. And then when Liza said yes, it changed my life. Like when the dream began.

SPEAKER_08 24:36

But I think before Liza, you had other big people here.

SPEAKER_01 24:38

I had Sandra Bernhardt and I had Peaches, and I had Bridget Everett before she was really well known, and Justin Vivian Bunt. I got some you know, middling names because they were.

SPEAKER_08 24:50

I know you thought I was her, but I'm not.

SPEAKER_01 24:52

But we uh when I really started to get them to say yes, was it honestly, I'll never, Ms. Munelli is it changed my life because when she said yes, then everyone else felt like it was okay. The only person who said no because Liza said yes was Bet Midler. Oh really? Yes. Well, there you have it. Her camp said. I didn't even know this. That is not a that does not uh like what uh basically he wrote having Liza's there is not a selling point to us. And I was like, I don't think they like each other.

SPEAKER_04 25:20

We should go after Bet again because we had to do it.

SPEAKER_08 25:25

But I remember you you texting me that the day and she were like, Do you know any queens on the island that could help Liza dye her hair and eyebrows? Right? Remember, you say, I'm like, what? She's coming to the island, but she knew this island was filled with gays that would dye her hair and eyebrows. Yeah, exactly. She stayed for four days. Yeah, she loved it. She loved it. Liza in LA.

SPEAKER_04 25:45

Yeah, she was the best. So speaking of the island, you're from Long Island.

SPEAKER_08 25:48

I'm from Queens. Everyone thinks I'm from Long Island.

SPEAKER_04 25:50

Oh, I'm from normal parents myself. I'm from uh I grew up in Belrose, Queens. She's from Queens. Belrose, Queens, yeah. Um, what was your first trip to Fair Island? Um because it probably wasn't as a performer. You probably didn't.

SPEAKER_08 26:02

No, I came with um a couple, and I was like the and they were much older, and I was like, You're on a tricycle. My mother didn't know where I was.

SPEAKER_04 26:09

How much older? How much older?

SPEAKER_08 26:11

I was probably 17 or 16. They were probably in their 30s. So we came for a day trip, and I'm like, I love this place. I just wanted to like get away from them and just go somewhere, like just be by myself, but they were paying for everything, so yeah, and that was where I got hooked.

SPEAKER_06 26:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 26:29

And then and then when I came, started coming, because I was a performer in Long Island and Sal Piro. Oh, late great Sal Piero. I mean, he was like, you know, always had my back and was my uh, you know, helped me forever. Like once he was like, come and do shows and stuff, and it was like, okay. And then one day I the I was in the office and the phone was ringing. It kept ringing. I'm like, nobody's answering the phone. So I'm like, okay, let me answer. I said, hello, Cherry Grove Hotel, how can I help you? And Isaac, who was the manager, saw me do that. He's like, Do you want a job here next year? I was like, yes. Oh my god. And then that was what I started.

SPEAKER_04 27:05

That's your original. Answering the phones. Delta, delta, delta, can I help you?

SPEAKER_08 27:10

I worked in the office. I was a drag queen, but I wasn't like, you know, working, doing shows. I was like, if you were a drag queen on staff, you always did the shows.

SPEAKER_04 27:19

Do you remember your first show?

SPEAKER_08 27:21

In here? Yeah. Yes. It was for um, it was for um uh what was it? The um God's love God's love we deliver. Oh, I love that that's it.

SPEAKER_04 27:33

Joan Rivers used to be a big part of that. Yeah, totally.

SPEAKER_08 27:35

But I remember being here and the outfit still fits. Thank you. Oh, please. But I remember being here and they're like saying to me, Oh, yeah, we're gonna do a benefit for marriage equality. I'm thinking to myself, this is never gonna work. Like, oh my god, I'll do the benefit of the benefit or marriage equality? No, marriage equality, and then it happened.

SPEAKER_04 27:53

Yeah. Oh, right, right, right.

SPEAKER_08 27:54

I saw it happen. I'm like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 27:56

Was that 2011, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 27:58

Once I saw, like, wow, okay. Because in my mind, I think it was gonna happen.

SPEAKER_04 28:02

Yeah. And then it happened. Isn't it funny to think how like I mean, coming out to the island, we had like our little magical gay safe space and whatnot. I I think back to those times and just like how okay we were being just like relegated. Right. You know, like everyone was just like, this is life, and there were people out there like fighting. I mean, I was part of like the marriage equality in New York movement. I helped the board and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_08 28:24

And people like just kept fighting for it, and that's how we got it.

SPEAKER_04 28:26

But you just it was like a part-time job was fighting for it.

SPEAKER_01 28:29

I just never thought anything was like, so I was hanging out with people doing going to parties. They're like, I don't even want to get married. Yeah, no, I didn't want to get married. Uh no, I was too busy going to parties. Um, so I oh I'm kidding. No, I've never really been much of a protester, believe it or not. I kind of felt like my work was protesting in a many ways.

SPEAKER_08 28:45

The stuff that I do is kind of pushing the envelope, but I never really protest, but I would be like, okay, you need somebody to raise money for you, like we'll do a show. Right, exactly. But doing better. It's all part of it. Yeah, yeah, totally. I agree.

SPEAKER_01 28:55

Um I mean, people protest you, like you were thrown out of Poland. I was thrown out of Poland. Yeah, that's a great story in my book. I'll tell you sometime when we're if you watch the podcast, you can hear it. Oh, that's true. Uh yeah, no, totally. It's uh I remember when I, you know, you there I started out really loving it here. Same thing, like you, you know, where you were like this is amazing and magical, and then it went through that dark period where I wasn't even coming to my own events because it was so demoralizing to be dealing with staff that were unhappy, except Nico. Nico was always a ray of light, the bartender, you know.

SPEAKER_08 29:26

A lot of the lot of the people that some of them are still here, they went through a time where they were like they weren't their self- they weren't themselves. Like they were like they struggled. Yeah, yeah, totally doing.

SPEAKER_04 29:35

You know, um, the fish stinks from the head. You know, and it really is that triple though.

SPEAKER_08 29:40

You know what I love about trigger warning, the podcast? That I heard the word hullabaloo. You said it earlier. You never hear that word anymore. I know.

SPEAKER_01 29:48

Hullabaloo is a good one. Yeah, totally. What it yes, that's a word of the week. Actually, no, it's dotage. But yes, it's a great yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:56

So uh prodig. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 29:59

No, we um in the and then I do feel like what was so interesting about taking it over, what what was difficult for us taking it over, Ariel, is deciding whom to keep. Right. Because the problem is it's much easier to bring new people and teach them the ways that you want, as opposed to trying to retrain people. I let some people go, I know their feelings were hurt. Um, but we told some people, hey, you got one shot.

SPEAKER_04 30:22

Totally. We think it's in there, you got one shot. And some of them wrote some of them.

SPEAKER_08 30:26

And before, like, before you're gonna say, I said to myself, you know what, girl, you had a good run. You had a good run. It was, you know, I didn't know. So you thought your head was on the chopping block? I, you know, I didn't know, but I was like, how blessed was I to be on this place for I think then it was like maybe 20, whatever years. Like I was very blessed.

SPEAKER_01 30:45

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So well, we literally went over every person on the staff. I mean, there were a couple that were very apparent to me that we need to discuss but out. Well, just because their time was up and we couldn't, I mean they were part of the toxicity.

SPEAKER_08 30:58

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 30:59

And as I said to the boys, you can't come in with a new regime if you're just gonna keep the old regime. You gotta shake things up, like changing Miss Fire Island and you know, refreshing everything needed a little nip tuck, obviously, sound and lights, things like that. But I'll never forget, Ariel. You weren't really here for this part when we the when we got into the building, when we took it over, we were pulling down 30 years of wires.

SPEAKER_08 31:24

Wires, spaghetti wires everywhere, everywhere, everywhere since the 70s.

SPEAKER_04 31:28

And I mean like those granny granny extension cords going everywhere, old cables that I was like, where's this going? And I'd follow- What is this? Well, I'd follow back. I don't want to electrocute myself and I can't shut all the power down. I go and it'd be just like a speaker cable that like ended in the ceiling. Yeah, totally. And it was like 300 feet of speaker cable. There was a wall of amplifiers. Totally. Four of them were operating.

SPEAKER_01 31:51

And then Dowski had taken them back. And the garbage, Dr. Frank, the previous owner, didn't want to pay to have things big things like a refrigerator. You don't want to have it taken, it cost somebody to take it off the hand. So he would just shove it under the building. Oh my god, I'm not sure. And we had to pay to have all of these things that were like a refrigerator from like 1995 or something that was just old and air conditioned or old sofas, yeah, um bureaus, like.

SPEAKER_08 32:12

But she needed a really big cleansing. Yeah, it really did. And she's very very grateful. Yeah, no, she is and we're she's happy now.

SPEAKER_04 32:20

And to you're and and and really to pay you a compliment, and people like you know, we invited Ken back because we were like, Ken loves this place and he cares. And you know, we have Sal and Nico and people like you, and it's a compliment to you, is like we did take our time to really fine-tooth comb everyone we knew here, and we knew who the outs were, but it was people like you that uh that it was like they have it, they have it, they care, they they want to be here, they just need to be supported.

SPEAKER_08 32:46

Yeah, and we'll really that really is what it was, right? But also, we also had to find out I shine so much better under you guys, like being like, oh my god. But some people do so much better.

SPEAKER_01 32:58

Some people do better under bad circumstances, and a couple people we were like, okay, that isn't we gave them the shot, it didn't necessarily work. Yeah, because you know, so it's a big tricky, it's a tricky thing. But eventually I said, guys, we we have one shot to revamp this place. We can't like five years later have another grand opening. Let's just go for it and do what we do.

SPEAKER_04 33:17

Now it's been a couple years that we've been doing I think we have five, four employees and two performers from year one.

SPEAKER_01 33:25

Yes. And we employ like 30 people. But I'm really excited to do it. You know, next weekend, next weekend, we're bringing back uh the original security guard, Mac, for next weekend. He's coming Friday to Sunday. Mac is just a you have Mac stories.

SPEAKER_08 33:37

Yes, but like Mac was, you know, he was he was there before me, but we would just like sometimes I'd be like, you know, I'd be like this little baby dragon, I'd be like, I mean, he's like, baby, you got this. You got you know what to do. You got this, baby. Like, yeah, just like in the back of the back. And then one time I like I would have people do the show and like they got crazy. Uh Epiphany and Logan beating the shit out of each other. And Mac was like, these are your friends, I'm not dealing with this, you take care of this. Like he was very like that way. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:05

Yeah. I'll never forget the first night of doing the underwear party. Um, and I didn't really know Mac. I thought he was straight. And um, I was going back to my room and I passed him at the bar, and he was sitting there drinking a drink. And he says, Hey, hey, come here for a second. And I said, What? He goes, You see this here? And it was a glass of Southern Comfort. And I said, Yeah, and he goes, You know, this cost me my family, cost me my health, cost me my home. But I'm willing to give it another try.

SPEAKER_04 34:35

He was he was very funny. Max, amazing. I'm so excited to have him back. I think it's gonna be such a joyous it's really gonna, it means a lot to him. It's really gonna be like family. He's ready for it again. Like that, like Ariel said, like the toxicity is gone. She's like out of the hospital, she's out of rehab, but now she's dressing herself up again. So to bring it back.

SPEAKER_08 34:55

I mean, for a girl party last night. Even last year was like it was just the it was just so much different.

SPEAKER_01 35:01

Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm really excited. Yeah, I'm really excited because you know next Saturday night we have uh Shakuiha, Ultranate, Anayade, and Bill Coleman, which is just gonna blow the roof off the place. It's Shakuieta has the opening number of any of the like sit-down drag shows that we've had at the Ice Palace, like Shakita had probably one of the best openings I've ever seen in my life that you made logistically happen. And it was literally her in a big white dress, but they had projection on the dress. Yeah, we've got to be a good thing. And it was like bugs climbing on the dress.

SPEAKER_08 35:34

She loves production. She loves and then like I remember when she would come and she'd be like, Well, wait a minute, this isn't right. I like I need this, and like you're like, What? It's the ice palace, but back in the day, but now it's a different ice. Now we're a venue. We're like, what are you doing? Now it's like, oh, she wants yes, let's give her that.

SPEAKER_04 35:50

Well, and that's the important thing. I gotta give her.

SPEAKER_08 35:52

She deserves that because she's an artist that has a vision.

SPEAKER_04 35:55

Yeah. And we want artists to have a vision, we want our stage to be respected. And I gotta give another shout out. I do it all the time. But Seth Kirby with our lighting rig and Austin Derrick with our sound. Yes. We are now, as the kids would say, or it's known in the biz, like we are a room to be played.

SPEAKER_07 36:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 36:11

Now it's it's like when a DJ spins at Bearkine. Like people can say, Oh, have you done the Ice Pals? Right. The Ice Pals is great. Right. You know?

SPEAKER_01 36:18

It's true. So before it was past weekend, Mother Disco was off the layers. It was off the fucking chain. It was a critical. It always is.

SPEAKER_08 36:26

I mean, it's a great party. And the underwear party is amazing, but it's a different party than that. It's like it's different, like fat people, old people, like they just come because it's a fun party. Well, and that's and that's the thing. And we wanted two different parties. Of course, they get naked and go behind the curtain at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_04 36:41

Well, and it's it's a delicate tradition, right? Because like it's it's in the calendar, the underwear party. It's what people do on Friday night for their weekend on Fire Island. It's just like you market, people come to the underwear party. It's banging, it's great, it's lively, we keep the music bright and fun, and it's your welcome to the island, and yeah, how do you do little meeting? And when it gets hot, you have the misting station. But then because Dr. Frank squeezed that fucking thing so hard, it's really all the Ice Palace had as far as nightlife. There were pool shows and bingos and stuff like that that were great for the community.

SPEAKER_08 37:14

But the moneymaker was the underwear part of it.

SPEAKER_04 37:17

The underwear part of it. But then there was no reason or desire or vision to do anything else. So the delicate thing was, well, let's also have a banger on Saturday, but it's got to be so different.

SPEAKER_01 37:27

Yeah, when we chose Mother Disco when they when they approached us, it was the perfect compliment because you got to get, you know, obviously 90% of the audience, well, not 90%, probably 70% of the audience is from the pines. Are they gonna want to come over twice Friday night and then Saturday night again? Well, they wouldn't for the same party, but they would for Mother Disco because it's a different party. And so and a lot of them do come twice. Yeah, but you couldn't have done it if they're not a few.

SPEAKER_08 37:50

But you have people here at Mother Disco that you would never see here up the ice palace. I agree. The underwear party.

SPEAKER_01 37:54

Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_08 37:55

It's like it's just an amazing energy, and the music's amazing, and it's a different vibe.

SPEAKER_04 38:00

Yeah, totally. All right, before we go to break, I want to ask uh Ariel for two things. I want to hear one, your absolute favorite memory from your 32 years at the Ice Palace. I'll make you dig for that one. And then your elevator pitch of why people should come to Fire Island and the Ice Palace.

SPEAKER_01 38:16

All right, we'll be right back. We're just gonna take a break for our sponsors. We'll be right back. We're gonna all talk about our favorite memory of the Ice Palace. Oh, we are? Okay. I think so, right? And I'll do mine first to get yeah, we're back. Okay. You want to go first?

SPEAKER_08 38:28

My favorite memory of the Ice Palace, of course, is when I won Miss Fire Island in 2002. I was a little baby drag queen and I had already won Entertainment of the Year, and I was like, I'm not really like a pretty girl that wears gowns and stuff, but I did it and I won the first time. So, and that year I was also the Homecoming Queen and Miss Long Island. It was a good year. That's what it's been downhill ever since, but yeah. That was like, yeah, okay. Seeing a baby like that.

SPEAKER_01 38:54

Yours, Daniel? It's gonna be obvious. Oh, is it? It's obvious. My favorite memory at the Ice Palace is right before Liza and Alan went on stage. It was the hottest night of the year. It was a hundred degrees. Oiling. It was an awful night. We had no air conditioning. No air conditioning back then. We have it now. And I go back into the dressing room and in the beer cooler, Liza's sitting on a keg smoking a cigarette in our beer cooler in like a refrigerated room to smoking a cigarette. And this also ties in with another Liza smoking story. Many people have many Liza smoking stories. But my other favorite Liza smoke. That was my favorite moment because that was just like you made it, kid. You did something that I don't know how it worked, but it did. I don't know how I got her here for it. Four little faggots from all of them. 100%. Like getting together the money to do this was just like, and then it happened and it was incredible.

SPEAKER_08 39:46

Oh, but wait, I have one more. Okay. Can I have one more memory? Of course. Linda Carter being here. Linda Carter Wonder Woman. Being here on fire out, and I'm like, what? Linda Carter's coming here. I'm like, I wanted to be Wonder Woman.

SPEAKER_04 39:57

She came out of her invisible cloud.

SPEAKER_08 39:59

She came here and she was so nice and so generous. And I ended up fucking her like manager or whatever. But I had a girl. She was like so nice and kind, but she was she's an amazing singer. She's great.

SPEAKER_01 40:11

Linda Carter was great. All right. I hope I don't cry. Hold on one second. Let me just finish with this book. Sure. I'm going to just finish this book and tie it in. Sorry.

SPEAKER_08 40:16

No, no, you're fine. I know we have so many memories.

SPEAKER_01 40:18

The other Liza smoking story is my favorite. I got a private boat. I've only gotten a private boat for one performer to come out here, and that was Liza. And it's you rent a private boat to bring her over. And I did not know this, but on boats, you can't smoke on boats. You can't have fire on boat because I guess if they catch on fire, what are you going to do? Yeah, the solution's all around you, but you can't use it. Right. She lights up a cigarette on this boat. It's me, her, her manager, and two kids that are on the boat and the captain. The kid runs over, he goes, I'm sorry, ma'am. He doesn't know who she is. He's like some 18-year-old. He's a no straight kid. He's no lie. But he goes, I'm sorry, ma'am, you can't smoke. And she goes, Oh, okay. And then a minute later, he comes over and says, I'm real, I'm sorry, ma'am, you can't smoke. She goes, Oh, okay, I'm sorry. And she just continues to smoke her cigarette and I put it on the ground.

SPEAKER_02 41:03

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_08 41:04

Liza.

SPEAKER_01 41:05

You know, but that's like that's years of practice, right? She did the exact same thing when she was on SNL. I guess she guessed it on SNL doing single ladies, I think, or something like that. Um, and she they put her in a hotel room across the street, and the same thing, she couldn't smoke, and they kept telling her you can't smoke in the Soto room. She'd go, Okay, thank you very much. I just kept smoking, she just which I think is a genius. Anyway, go ahead.

SPEAKER_08 41:24

So I'm gonna give you a Liza back here.

SPEAKER_01 41:27

We don't, we don't get Liza back.

SPEAKER_04 41:29

Just got to mention we'd probably get we'd probably Allen's daughter. We'd probably get Cheetah Rivera back before we get Liza back. Yeah, I know totally. Yeah. Um I'm gonna give you a hint for mine. Oh, Patty Lapone is here. Okay, so God, I'm already, I have to like control myself so I don't weep. We had uh had the Ice Palace, as Ariel mentioned, like they went around town, the new owners kind of asking, like, we own hotels, we don't do nightclubs, like who should take this over? And there were a couple of people up, but people in town kept saying, Daniel, Daniel, Daniel, Daniel. Uh we had already had this huge undertaking of opening up basically two nightclubs stacked on top of each other in midtown Manhattan, and it was laborious. Let's use that as the word. I think that's laborious. And it was kind of this thing, it was kind of this thing where we, you know, I remember sitting down with my brother and saying, Look, here's what's gonna happen. It's kind of a have to scenario because somebody else is gonna come in, uh, they're just gonna take your underwear party from you. Um, they're gonna drive it into the ground on the city. Like everybody else had. Yeah, exactly. So let's continue with your hard work and what do we have to do now? Build out six other days? Like, let's do it. Let's ask for a rent abatement, let's you know, get in there. We had worked so hard back and forth from the city here. I have pictures that I'll share with Josh he can post. Like, I'm covered in wires, like walking them out to a dumpster and whatnot. And like it was both like body breaking and mind-numbing, but rewarding at the same time. It was it was a weird kind of retreat kind of vibe to it all because you're not used to work. And we have um you kind, we have Patty Lapone, right? And so our new lights are in, our new curtains are up, the floors have been sanded and waxed, the building has been leveled, the roof has been repaired, the walls have been switched. We were condemned and uncondemned. I was flying back from Berlin on Memorial Day week, and Adale goes, they just condemned the building.

SPEAKER_07 43:26

I said, Ah, yes, it wasn't. I'll be there soon.

SPEAKER_04 43:28

He goes, and then he sent me a picture of all the yellow stickers, and I was like, motherfucking and I went into rage mode, and we ended up being able to open on the patio. We did some emergency things and got her open in like days. It was crazy. It's a packed house. We sold out so fast that we got her to do a second show that sold out immediately. And I'm standing there at the bar and I'm looking at Ken, I'm looking at my brother, I'm looking at Patty Lapone, and she's singing, I'm gonna lose it. Hold on. She's singing, Don't Cry for Me, Argentina. Um And at the part where there's the choral, every single person in the building was humming along. And I just thought, oh my God, we've got our back.

unknown 44:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 44:14

Like the place that deserves so much love and represents a community across the world, we've done it. I was so there aren't a lot of things. I work hard. Daniel jokes a lot. We all work hard. You don't take a lot of pride when you're working really hard. You just kind of fucking do it. And there was a moment that we just, the four of us just like so hard and you get that. We just basked in it. I was like, ah, and to think that all those people were at that show in one moment of continuity, everyone was on the same page. Everyone is on the same page. That's my that's my moment. That was pretty beautiful. That was pretty beautiful. Right? All right, now let's talk about what pisses us off.

unknown 44:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 44:55

Do you have a trigger, Daniel? I do. Let's bring this girl home.

SPEAKER_08 44:57

Do I ever not stop texting me? Does it have to do with Cherry Grove on top?

SPEAKER_01 45:04

Stop texting me the day of a party, an hour before a party, and text me. Hey, uh, where do I get tickets? You just want a comp. Yeah. I'm really okay if people ask me for comps. I'm not saying that everyone should be asking me for comps. I'm just saying that I'm really okay. But I'm just getting this thing where people I never hear from are now texting me before Mother Disco while I'm in Mexico or this or that, whatever. And they go, hey, Queen, it's been a long time, and then I know what's gonna happen. And you're like, who are you? Yeah. And then they're like, um, I was wondering, are tickets still available for tonight? And then I just give them the link to redeetickets.com because I'm just like, I know what you want, and I'm fine if you don't have money. If anyone listening were really hit the skids and didn't have the money and wanted to come see something, if you say, Hey, buddy, I really want to see the show and have the money, I'd let you in. I wouldn't come and usher for us. Yeah, exactly. We have volunteer ushers, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 45:54

We will teach you the system in 10 minutes. You want to see a show, but you can't? Patty Lapone was a $400 ticket. Yeah, exactly. And I had four or five friends that were like, Girl, I I hate to do this to you, but like, I I really want to see Patty, but I I can't buy that ticket. And I was like, Do you have nice clothes with you? Yeah, of course. Why don't you come and usher? I'm there, I'm now, I'm here. Hand him a clipboard, showed him the seating chart, and I said, just be kind to people, walk them to the number. Exactly, exactly, exactly.

SPEAKER_08 46:19

And that's plus, Carol Channing was here. You brought Carol Channing here. Carol Channing. Carol Channing.

SPEAKER_01 46:25

Continue. Yeah. So anyway, that was it for me. That's it. It's just a little bit sometimes disheartening when you hear from people you haven't heard from a while, and it starts to make you feel uh used. Do better, do better. Like you either that or just pretend. I don't know. Oh, wait, no. What is it? Is it this one? No. No.

SPEAKER_04 46:41

That's what I wanted. That's what I should have is when they do that, I should send that word back. They say, hey girl, where do I get tickets again?

SPEAKER_01 46:48

Exactly. It's a loser. Exactly. Anyway, so that's it. It just it's it happened a lot this weekend because between the underwear party and Mother Disco, and I was on the island and Unitard in the city, I had all these people texting me that I haven't heard from, and all of a sudden, not not ever once being direct. Yeah. Just being like, hey girl, can I come to the show? I will say one guy though that I've hooked up with a couple times did write me, Hey, I'm coming to you. You owe me a ticket. He goes, No, he said, it was so bad you owe me like a ticket in a rounded race.

SPEAKER_04 47:16

I'm coming to every show for the next year because of last week.

SPEAKER_01 47:19

He's like, Do you need me to bring you anything which was code for like drugs, which I thought was at least kind of sweet. All right, anyway, that that was my trigger. What about you?

SPEAKER_08 47:27

Mine is socks with sandals. It is when I see it, it makes me crazy. Since I was a small child, I'm like, The sandals, uh, you shouldn't have socks with sandals. Yeah. Unless you have nasty toes or nasty feet, maybe. So that makes me crazy.

SPEAKER_04 47:43

It's like when people have the seam of the nylon and they're wearing open toe shoes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 47:48

I'm like, come on. I like that.

SPEAKER_04 47:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 47:50

But there's a million others, but that's the one I thought of.

SPEAKER_04 47:53

Well, it's officially Pride Month. So my trigger is going to be uh pridey. Um, the queer baiting has to stop. I'm so over the Instagram-y muscle hunk five.

SPEAKER_08 48:05

And listen.

SPEAKER_04 48:05

So explain queer baiting, because so it's like it's like when you have like straight guys that are like, you know, shirtless and like speedos, like dancing together, you know, like they're oh, come visit our OnlyFans page, but it's just them jerking off and whatnot. Or uh straight guys like acting gay and whatnot for clicks and money and whatnot. Listen, listen, gays, if you're into it and you think like, oh, he's dancing the line, that's great. Give him a compliment, but also call them out. Be like, my sexuality is not for your finance.

SPEAKER_08 48:38

But put your money towards gay stuff. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 48:41

That's a little bit like uh that does bother me a lot. It bothers me a lot when you also hear these celebrities on talk shows and they like go, well, I'm bi, but they've actually never done anything. They just said that because it's kind of hot to be by. It's trending. But I I mean, a lot of these people, then they always end up with and I'm like, prove it. Yes, like I I love, I love Hannah Einbinder from um hacks, but her whole thing is, you know, I'm LGBT, and of course, and I I looked her up because I got really into hacks, and I looked her up and she's got a boyfriend. And I'm like, I'm not saying she's not bi, I'm not saying it like that. I'm just saying that I I I could have bet you dollars to donuts that she was gonna have a boyfriend, not a girlfriend, yeah, or a they friend. Yeah, absolutely. So uh that's it. Stop gripping.

SPEAKER_04 49:21

That's all for us. This was Trigger Warning.

SPEAKER_08 49:22

Uh so much fun. Thank you, boys.

SPEAKER_04 49:24

Thank you for coming. We had 18 fucking intros. Oh, we love we love it. We love having you.

SPEAKER_01 49:29

We're very lucky. That's actually why we brought here uh you here today was to let you know that this is your last show. Could you imagine? Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 49:36

I do have to go now to the dressing room and clean everything out because yeah.

SPEAKER_04 49:40

I keep telling her that I'm redoing her wardrobe and it's really just a boy to get her to move her shit. Get out of here.

SPEAKER_01 49:45

We should interview potential employees on the podcast. Yeah, absolutely. Be really fun. I don't know if we get good stuff, but we could try. But we well, it's like if you can handle this, you can handle the work. That's true. But you have to do that.

SPEAKER_08 49:56

I don't think any of that's funny.

SPEAKER_01 50:00

Well, on that note, you've thoroughly eviscerated an hour of your life. We love you. Uh subscribe, uh, send this to your friends. We don't ever really ask you to, but we want to build this so that we can do more of these and uh and we want sponsors so we can hand money to gay charities. Exactly. Trigger warning. We love you, Ariel. Thank you so much, honey. I love you.

SPEAKER_08 50:20

Happy Pride.

SPEAKER_01 50:20

Bye, guys.

SPEAKER_04 50:30

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SPEAKER_01 50:59

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