Mandela Effects, Scammers & The Perfect Joke

This week on Cockney & Son…

We dive into the weird world of the Mandela Effect. Did the Monopoly Man really wear a monocle? Did Del Boy ever say “Rodney, you plonker”? And why do so many people remember things differently from how they actually happened?

We also chat about CERN, conspiracy theories, ancient civilisations and whether history is really as reliable as we think it is.

Plus, Steve shares his advice on avoiding phone scammers, we discuss why pensioners are often targeted, and there’s another round of Bleedin’ Dad Jokes to finish things off.

We chat about:

• The biggest Mandela Effects people still argue about
 • Whether CERN changed reality (or if the internet has lost its mind)
 • Why people remember things differently
 • Phone scams and how to avoid them
 • Ancient mysteries and lost civilisations
 • Sports Day, terrible weather and even worse dad jokes

As always, it’s honest, it’s funny, and it’s a little bit chaotic.

If you’ve ever argued that Del Boy definitely said “Rodney, you plonker” or wondered whether your memory can actually be trusted, this one’s for you.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

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SPEAKER_01 0:14

Cockney and son, two generations in one London. Go blame it, Governor.

SPEAKER_02 0:21

Hello everyone, and welcome back to Cockney and Sun Series 2, Episode 16. This week we're talking about the Mandela Effect. Those things everyone remembers one way, only to find out they've apparently never been true. We'll also be discussing the rise in phone scams targeting pensioners. Oh no. That's thoughts on why they're getting worse, and we've got a couple of terrible dad jokes to finish it off. Yes, have we?

SPEAKER_01 0:47

Gore Blimey Governor. It's now time for a bit of a nutter.

SPEAKER_02 0:54

Right, so last week I was very excited when we mentioned the Mandela effect. Do you know what the Mandela effect is? No, I ain't got a clue. And also I did mention about that big machine that they switched on. You did, yeah. And its official name is it's obviously abbreviation, but it's called Sun. C-E-R-N. Okay. Okay. What's that time for? Times going forward a little bit. So I'm gonna explain a little bit of it so you can understand. Okay. So the Mandela effect is when a large group of people remember something differently from reality, okay? The name comes from the fact that thousands of people believed Nelson Mandela died in prison during the 1980s. Did you believe that? No, no, no. Did you so you never thought that Nelson Mandela died in prison? No, he came out, didn't he? In reality, yes, he was released and became president of South Africa and died in 2013. But there are a large group of people in Britain that believed that Nelson Mandela died in the 80s to the point that they thought that they were actually taught about that in school. Okay. So that's what the Mandela effect is. It's about people believing things to be one way and actually when you try and explain it to them. Yeah. Well that's not a Mandela effect, but that's like how people thought that he had died in in in prison and obviously he didn't. However, some people have a different But why would I why would they say he died in prison when you didn't No, because it's what a large group of people naturally remember. Like it's it's happened that they for some reason, this is what I'm saying, for some reason, this large group of people, you know, I don't know where it is, or you know, when I say large, I mean there's quite a lot of people that that's why it's got that name Mandela effect, okay? Anyway, some people believe that the large hydron machine CERN, yeah, yeah, was switched on in 2008. Something happened that changed reality itself. According to the theory, timelines merged, dimensions crossed over, and somehow we ended up in a slightly different version of the universe. Obviously, this is all for entertainment value. Okay, and there's no evidence of this, but it has become one of the internet's most famous conspiracy theories. Okay, so I have got a few examples because this is brilliant, because you have no idea what this is. Oh you gotta do you can't cheat. Oh okay, so I'm just gonna ask you random a few random things, okay, and you have to just be honest and tell us how you're a member of it. Okay, so the Monopoly Man. Have you ever played Monopoly? Yes. Right. So if you was to describe the Monopoly Man, yeah. Yeah. Like the cartoon, can you without giving it away, what how would you describe his face?

SPEAKER_00 3:48

His face is like an old like an elderly gentleman?

SPEAKER_02 3:52

Yeah. And is there anything specific about his face that he's got really no one?

SPEAKER_00 3:58

No.

SPEAKER_02 3:59

So so it's just a little elbow, innit? Do you think he wears glasses or anything like that? He's got a monocle, isn't he? So you're saying that the Monopoly man has a monocle? Yeah. But why do you think that? I don't know, because he's because of of the the way he's dressed, like with his top hat on his towels. But that's fine, but you can't just assume that he's got a monocle. You must have remembered seeing it the picture or something.

SPEAKER_00 4:25

Maybe, yeah. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 4:27

Well, I'm gonna tell you, but he he doesn't actually have a monocle ever. But you have just proved my point. You thought that the m that the Monopoly man had a monocle. A lot of people do, and when they see a picture of the Monopoly Man without it, they can't quite understand why. So you have had the Mandela effect.

SPEAKER_00 4:47

I have.

SPEAKER_02 4:47

Maybe that I didn't play Monopoly back twice. I mean, maybe that you didn't play Monopoly because it was too complicated for you. If it was about snakes and ladders or drafts, then maybe you could have joined in.

SPEAKER_00 4:59

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 5:00

But you know So you failed. Explain that then. Why do people think that he's got a m a monocle then?

SPEAKER_00 5:05

I think it's just the way he's dressed with a top hat and no, but you can't just assume that when you're not. Well no, but that's but that that used to be when people used to go around in the t and the towels and the uh tobacco, a monocle was more in favour than the.

SPEAKER_02 5:17

No, I understand that, but what I'm saying is And the cane. But you could have said glasses.

SPEAKER_00 5:22

Yeah, I could have said glasses.

SPEAKER_02 5:23

But you said monocle. No, you asked me if he wore glasses, and I said, No, I think he got a monocle, didn't he? Yeah, but you could have said, yeah, I think he wore glasses. So but something in your brain has said he wears a glass. Yeah, it's just the way he's dressed. Or is the mis machine switched on and stopped me from thinking that. Anyway, so there we go. The first one. So obviously I watched a lot of Disney stuff as a as a child, right? And there's a famous quote from Snow White, yeah? So the evil queen, she looks into the mirror, and what does she say?

SPEAKER_00 5:56

Well, she looks in the mirror, what the old the old uh the the wicked witch? Yeah. She looks in the mirror and she says, mirror, mirror, on the wall. Yeah. Who's the fairy of them all?

SPEAKER_02 6:09

And what happened when when you said that to the mirror? So why have you say why do you say that? Why why have you said that sentence?

SPEAKER_00 6:17

Well, that's the sentence.

SPEAKER_02 6:18

So how confident are you that that's what she says?

SPEAKER_00 6:21

Well, now you're saying that, not very confident. No, but yeah, that yeah, that everyone used to say mirror, mirror on the wall. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:28

But what is it then? It's actually magic mirror on the wall. Oh, really? She never said mirror, mirror on the wall. Okay. So so this go back to the argument quickly, is people are saying that it used to be mirror, mirror on the wall. Yeah. In a in your dimension, yeah, in your reality. Yeah. But now it's been shifted to these small things that are different, but people all remember them being the same. Yeah. So a loads of people remember it as mirror, mirror on the wall. But you know, you're gonna get more people remembering it as mirror and mirror on the wall than Yeah, but why do they but why are they remembering it as mirror mirror on the wall? Because you can't just What I'm saying is if you watched a film, yeah, you can't just make make that up. No, no, no, but uh and I don't see a large group of people, I'm not talking about all friends. But it's also like that's two you failed on.

SPEAKER_00 7:17

No, but it's like you go to pantomime and they do Snow White, they say mirror, mirror on the wall.

SPEAKER_02 7:22

So it's it's a Yeah, no, no, no. But this was Snow White was like one of the first ever Disney films. So we're not talking about you when you go to the your sad little pantomimes every um keeping messages into in business. So so far, two of the Mandela effects you have got wrong because you are from the other dimension. Okay, really? Yeah. Okay. Okay. So we've got a few more. A few more, I've got a few more, yeah. Okay. A few more. Okay. So do you like the do you like Queen as in the band? Yes. How well do you know the song We Are the Champions? Well, how would you say that that song ends? I'm not sure. You're not sure? No. Most people think it ends that like when it goes the ending line, it goes of the world. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you do you remember it like that now? I've said it. Yeah. Okay. Well, it doesn't actually end like that.

SPEAKER_00 8:15

No.

SPEAKER_02 8:15

No. It's never ended with of the world. Okay. And everyone imagined it to be ending of of the world. Right, you this and I saved the last. So I'm saved the last one. Because you you would know this, and this I think is gonna shock you. Okay. Because you are a massive Only Falls and Horses fan. Right? And then obviously Del Boy has quite a lot of catch catchphrases. Okay. But one of the top catchphrases was never even used in in Only Falls and Horses. What would you say the main funny thing that Delboy says to Rodney? Rodney Uplonka. Yeah, sure, yeah. So you know that Del Boy has never ever said that. No, no, sure, yeah. He has used Plonka and stuff, but he's never actually said the line Rodney Uplonka. And that is used us on t-shirts. That's people have used that. So he's never actually said that. So that again comes from you know what why are people saying that? How did that happen? Yeah. Because it's not actually to do with the time machine, it's to do with the whole point of it is to say that people don't actually photo, you know, screenshot stuff, they remember it how people remember it. So obviously, at some point you've just seen Rodney Uplonka and you've imagined that he's said it so much that you believe that. Yeah. So whether that is to do with people's way of remembering stuff or the switch of the 2000s.

SPEAKER_00 9:47

You could say that that could be in all walks of life, don't it? Different things. People remember things differently to others.

SPEAKER_02 9:53

Yeah, but that's why getting into this, this is an example of why you shouldn't really trust history books. So you know, everything that we know about history, going back as far as it can, because we read it, doesn't mean that that's what happened or that's true. Really? Well, yeah, but because what I'm saying is if say like just say like the Battle of Hastings or whatever, or something that people reckon it's like if you tell a story, if you if something happened to you and then you told a story, yeah, yeah, and then that story got told to someone else and they changed it a little bit. Oh yeah, and then that story got changed to the stuff. Yeah, but that's no, but but what I'm saying is, and people back then probably wouldn't want things to be written down a certain way. Yeah, because people add things to clearly have something and then oh because and we'll get into this probably another one, but not not anytime soon. But if you go and look like Egypt and things and places like that, and if you add you know, like they say, like how how the tombs, the the pyramids were built, right? Obviously, they're saying that lots of Egyptian workers, let's call them that for entertainment value, yeah, moved these stones. But actually, when you go and look at these stones, they're they're massive, and you're talking like thousands of years ago, and then there's some stones that have circles like cylinders through the stone, perfect cylinders, that they say nowadays could only be done with laser things. So, how did those people do that?

SPEAKER_00 11:30

Yeah, oh no, I've got no idea.

SPEAKER_02 11:32

Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, you know, so you you can't believe anything really, unless you were there. Unless you were there, which I wasn't no, and then there's another place is there's these stones that are put together so well and cut that they are literally slid in together, and there's no way that you could do that.

SPEAKER_00 11:52

Like stone edge.

SPEAKER_02 11:54

Yeah, well, that's not perfectly put together.

SPEAKER_00 11:56

No, but I mean, how's that put together? Why I mean those size them stones. But how is that possible? Yeah, because you're saying And the way and the way it's meant when when the sun goes, it it the sun goes right through the middle, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_03 12:08

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:09

So they could do that back then. Yeah, ancient Egyptians could move stones and cut through things with things, but we can't fix a pothole. No, that's true. So maybe we aren't the most advanced civilization.

SPEAKER_00 12:20

Well look at the Victorians. What they done, all the underground and well apparently they were already those tunnels were already there.

SPEAKER_02 12:27

Really? Yeah. Well all of them. And also, this is what all of them. Okay, so this is what our. Why would they why would they be there? Well, because a previous civilization used them. So what I'm gonna say, because if you don't even look up mud, I think it's called Mud Mud Stream or something like that, because if you go look at some buildings, and there's some in London, I'm gonna send you the TikToks now, or the um whatever you can see, some buildings you'll see, pavements, rows going down, and then if you look at the bottom, you'll see like like the top of windows. Okay. And it's like, well, why is why is there a window there when the door when the thing's there? What have they built on top? Oh really? You think it was an underground city? Well, and then also what I would say, which I get designs change and stuff, but if you go and look, even in England, like the buildings from you know two, three hundred years ago, like the designs on them and how they uh look so intricate, the doors are massive and things like that, and then you go look at a new build on the on the new estate, yeah. How why would you surely like how's that possible? How do they didn't have scaffolding then? How would you mean they get those like how how is that precision and stuff done with stuff back then?

SPEAKER_00 13:48

That's true, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 13:50

So you don't know what you're talking about. Anyway, Mandela effect is what I would say is people believe like like you know, people don't believe COVID was a thing, and people think that that was a way to see how we would all adapt to being told you can't go out.

SPEAKER_03 14:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 14:08

Would we all stay in and would pretend that there's this virus because of the way that people you know think and that? So you never know.

SPEAKER_00 14:18

That's true. But twilight's on.

SPEAKER_02 14:22

Yeah. I mean, you could just be like you, who's just oblivious to it all. Yeah, yeah. You'd probably walk past an alien. Yeah. You what, mate? And then you go, there's this dodgy looking fella. Oh, you lost.

SPEAKER_03 14:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:35

You are AT. Okay, right left. God forbid, first contact of an alien would be with you. Hi, we've come to check out your planet. Nah. Right, bye. Fly off again. If you've got the time, now you're retired, just click it into any kind of YouTube thing. Or I'll send you the link so you just have to click once on Mandela Effects and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 15:00

And then But who's who come who's come up with this uh Well it's just because people noticed, I guess in a conversation, nothing happened.

SPEAKER_02 15:08

Yeah. Because in America's American ones. Well then some people said, Well, it did that one, so what happened to him? They're having an argument. Well, they know no, they don't have an argument. But they're having a discussion. Just saying, well, why are you saying that? Because that's not what it was said, but why do you remember it that way? I don't know, but why does it why does he remember it like that? Because we switched on in 2008. And it only works with some brains. Anyway, moving on to something that is very current and not because of a machine that's been switched on. Yeah. Let's get into that.

SPEAKER_01 15:42

I don't believe it. Would you? I can't believe it. I don't believe it.

SPEAKER_02 15:48

If there's anyone that can stick up for the pensioners in Great Britain, it's you. You are obviously a pensioner. I am. Yeah? And you feel like it's your job to bring awareness to situations that go on. And obviously, you had a phone call this week that you knew was a scammer, didn't you? Well, it came up on my phone, suspected scam. I mean, that's good because you've got, you know, at first with technology you've not been great, but since obviously under my guidance and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 16:19

Yeah, but even when I had a landline, the number would come up, and if I didn't know it, I wouldn't answer it. When it said, wife. No, I'll yeah, I would answer it. Yeah. No, I'll I just don't answer if the numbers because I think in if it's someone I know, I'll leave a message.

SPEAKER_02 16:34

I mean it is quite scary nowadays.

SPEAKER_00 16:36

I know some people change their numbers, yeah, but I d I still don't answer it. And and they might they're gonna leave a message if it's in Okay.

SPEAKER_02 16:44

So say you did answer it and they said, Hi, Mr. Middleton, this is so-and-so from this bank. So we've got some issue on your account.

SPEAKER_00 16:54

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:55

Can you just confirm this stuff? What would you do? How would you what would go through your mind? What was the first thing you'd say?

SPEAKER_00 17:03

I goes, What's your name?

unknown 17:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:04

And I'll see who's name. Dave. I said, Okay, well, I'll ring the I'll ring the bank or I'll go down the bank side. No. I will not talk, I'm not talking over the phone. See ya.

SPEAKER_02 17:13

No, I'm sorry.

unknown 17:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 17:15

Down it goes. But do you understand how people that aren't as wise as you?

SPEAKER_00 17:20

Yeah, of course, yeah. I know. I've seen I've seen some of the programs, they get and and it's it's it's terrible how they get commed into there.

SPEAKER_02 17:26

Have you seen that advert where the woman goes, Hi Miss Dingy, can I just have the first numbers of your thing? And then she goes, Oh, can I sorry, can I just get the last thing?

SPEAKER_00 17:36

Did you see what I did there? Yeah, yeah. Oh no, it's so easy. Yeah. You know, especially like you've got as you say, people, you know, they they're just vulnerable, they some of the older people, you know.

SPEAKER_02 17:47

Do you think that younger people are able to spot scammers better than elderly people?

SPEAKER_00 17:55

Well, you see so many programmes, it's not just elderly that are getting scammed, you know. You know, there's there is younger ones getting scammed. I mean, I'm not sure it all depends on how good they are, you know.

SPEAKER_02 18:04

Because there's a programme, isn't there, where they I don't know what they're called, they're called something scammers, where they are a team that help scamps. Yeah, CX XCX copper blogger. Oh, is that is that what it is? And honestly, these people are so believable, aren't they?

SPEAKER_00 18:19

Yeah, oh definitely, yeah. They come across and they're all friendly, because they've got that friendly voice and all that, obviously reading off a script. Yeah. They're all friendly and they get taken in, don't they?

SPEAKER_02 18:27

I mean it is I find the sad part with it is obviously that I mean it would affect any anyone, of course, wouldn't it? Yeah. But an elderly person who's just paid 20 grand for you know phone thing because they've been hacked and stuff like that. Yeah, honestly. They probably won't recover from that, will they?

SPEAKER_00 18:46

Of course they won't. And you know, and that they won't, you know, every time the phone rings, they're gonna if we all jump in all that, innit?

SPEAKER_02 18:51

Because it's alright for the tech techos like you who has an iPhone that comes up saying suscep suspected suspected I can't say no.

SPEAKER_00 18:59

Suspected scam. But I mean even before that, I'll never use I'll never used to answer the numbers I I've done. And then if it's and then if it's a number I don't know, I'll just block it. Yeah. And then it's just done and it's out of the way.

SPEAKER_02 19:11

But some people aren't as like no people are more trusting but it's like don't know the number, I don't answer it. I block it. Yeah, block it.

SPEAKER_00 19:18

And then but when I had a landline, it was like, you know, you the numbers will come up and you think or if I'm a bit like I wonder what that was, I will take the number and I'll put who called me.

SPEAKER_02 19:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:30

And then and it will tell you, you know, suspected scam again, and it'll have all the people that have been.

SPEAKER_02 19:36

Are you just obviously putting yourself in in the non-elderly category? Because a lot of the things that you're saying, a lot of people wouldn't know how to do. No, it's just uh it's just a thing that uh I've been in ten years' time I've always been aware. When I ring you up and I go, What's going on? And you go, Oh, I've just paid 10 grand to get my phone line fixed.

SPEAKER_00 19:56

I think it comes from the family should be my family should be a family of scammers. Yeah. I think I've learned from them.

SPEAKER_02 20:04

But I think like everything, you know, like how you know they say that they can't stop stuff on social media. You know, like how like we can't, we can't, you know, there's no way of stopping this and that and that, but then you have a conversation about, you know, barbecues and it's all over your oh yeah, yeah. Surely if voice recognition can pick up to say that you're talking about barbecues, that can pick up any type of stuff that people are seeing. Yeah, yeah. And I don't believe that there isn't one way to stop. There's I mean it's easy to to the easiest way to do it is everybody that creates a social media account has to sign up with like your driving licence or you know your passport. Yeah. You can just create social media accounts with an email address that you can make up. So what I'm saying is so straight away there's a way to stop that. But I don't think like anything, it's like the social media platforms won't do that because they'll probably lose.

SPEAKER_00 21:07

Yeah, these tech companies don't want to. Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_02 21:09

Yeah, so what's the worst?

SPEAKER_00 21:10

Otherwise, you've already been nabbing now.

SPEAKER_02 21:12

Have you to date ever had somebody trying to scam you? Doesn't have to be on the phone.

SPEAKER_00 21:18

No, no, no. I'll be a bit I'm a bit wary like that, you know.

SPEAKER_02 21:22

Yeah. So if somebody it's that saying, is it nothing comes for free?

SPEAKER_00 21:26

Exactly. If it yeah, like you see your door like some someone sees like e bows out, and it'd be like something that you know is expensive and it's going for a tenner.

SPEAKER_02 21:36

Yeah.

unknown 21:36

Really?

SPEAKER_00 21:38

Yeah. Or you go to a car boot sale and you're thinking, oh that's yeah, how much that, mate? It's fifteen quid, yeah, right. And it's about four hundred quid in the shops. Yeah, cool.

SPEAKER_02 21:48

Let's just say that there are a bunch of elderly people listening to this podcast. Yeah. What's uh what advice would you give them to spot a scammer?

SPEAKER_00 21:58

Oh my look, if someone rings. You up when you bank and all that.

SPEAKER_02 22:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:02

Just say, Oh, thanks very much. I'll go down the bank. Yeah. I'll ring them back. Yeah. But what you've got to be careful is that sometimes like they put the phone down, don't they? And they're still on the on the line. Oh really? Yeah. So you've got to be careful on that one as well. What does that mean?

SPEAKER_02 22:18

So you you put the phone down.

SPEAKER_00 22:19

Yeah, but and then you pick it back up again, but they're still But on a mobile. But a lot of them's done is a lot of the audit is done on the landline, isn't it? I mean I don't have a landline.

SPEAKER_02 22:29

No, just no need to revive. So the moral of the story is, the advice is don't talk to your bank on the phone. No. Because if it's that important.

SPEAKER_00 22:37

No, because if they would ring if you if they would ring you about your account, they wouldn't do that. They wouldn't ask you for your details up the phone, would they? No. You have to you know you they wouldn't do that. Yeah. And you get you know you get messages from your bank saying we do not ask for your details or your or your your sort code or whatever. Just don't do it.

SPEAKER_02 22:55

Cheer out. There we go, scammers who are listening, you've got to challenge Steve Biddleton.

SPEAKER_00 23:00

No, see that's my mim.

SPEAKER_02 23:02

No. My great name was a moneylender in Fulham.

SPEAKER_00 23:06

So yeah. So it all comes from you. Yeah, maybe. I ain't scammed no one. It's a family business. It's terrible. No, but it's when you see uh on the news or in papers that elderly people, you know, have worked all their lives and have been scammed out of their savings.

SPEAKER_02 23:21

How do we know that you are not scamming us now and you're gonna end this podcast, go home, and then you're like, go around, you where's my in my 400 quid? Snap. Bang. Yeah, it's not funny. No, it's terrible in this. Yeah, it's a serious thing, yeah. It's not it's not nice. And it's it's you know most simplest thing is don't answer the phone to the bank. Exactly. Okay, well, moving on, because we're not gonna do a word of wisdom this week. Say that Steve. Nah. No, but we're gonna go straight on to the joke.

SPEAKER_01 23:50

Get ready to laugh. It's now time for the bleeding dad joke.

SPEAKER_02 23:55

Head to head with two jokes each. I think I've got some good ones this week. Not terrible as in offensive, but I think they will both make you laugh. Okay. Okay. So I'll go this week, okay? It might picture the scene, husband and wife arguing, okay? Yes. Okay. Can you would you be able to get into that frame of mind? Oh, yeah, easily. Okay. Wife. Okay, that's it. I'm leaving you. You are so childish. Husband, well, good luck with that, because the floor is lava. Do you get it? It's good, is it? I made myself laugh at that one.

SPEAKER_00 24:41

Go on, beat that. I could do one the man with the OCD. Is that okay? Shut the door five times and way out.

SPEAKER_02 24:56

You're gonna really like this one. Isn't it sick then? It's not sick, it's funny. Okay, so the scene is uh mother and son talking, okay. And so a son a son asks his A son asks his mother, Mum, the kids are laughing at me because my teeth are too long. The mum replies, Oh shush, now you've scratched the whole floor again. That was a good one. Yeah, it was a good one actually. I think it was my best week. Yeah. Good one.

SPEAKER_00 25:37

So during the week I had to ring the old uh week bladder hotline.

unknown 25:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:41

It's one pm in it.

SPEAKER_02 25:45

Nah definitely won this week. Other than that, anything else to report that sports day got cancelled today because of the horrendous rain, but looking out Yes, I I just think the the parents didn't fancy it. Nothing but blue sky. I mean it does look a bit a little bit grey, but we could have got away with the spot. Speaking of the parents in fancy it. Yeah. And I've got and I've got one more week to limber up for the dad race. Oh yeah, you better kettle. Or two. Might be Richard always comes in his work clothes. He goes, I can't run. I can't run in these shoes.

SPEAKER_00 26:18

And it's uneven ground as well.

SPEAKER_02 26:20

Yeah. Be one of those parents that goes down whilst they're running. Yeah. That happens every year. Yeah, of course. Well, that was episode 16. Thanks for listening to Cockney and Sun. If you've enjoyed this episode, make sure you follow, subscribe, and leave us a review wherever you get your podcast with. Also, don't forget, you can just ask Alexa. Yes. Alexa. Alexa. Play Cockney and Sun.

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