Hot Girls love Human Design! with Lacy Hart

✨Part 2 is here, babes … and things are getting cosmic. ✨🔮☕️

✨I am back with the fabulous Lacey Hart for another deeply fun, wildly fascinating Tea Time chat! This time, we’re diving headfirst into the world of Human Design. From energy types and intuition to alignment, creativity, and the strange little ways we’re all wired differently… nothing is off limits.

✨Whether you’re already obsessed with Human Design or still wondering what the heck a Manifesting Generator even is, this episode is equal parts enlightening, affirming, and delightfully chaotic in the best way. Expect spiritual tangents, personal revelations, lots of laughter, and at least one moment that makes you go: “wait… that explains SO much about me.”

✨Pour yourself a cozy drink and settle in for Part 2 with Lacey; because the stars, the charts, and the vibes are very much aligned. 🌙💫

Follow along for updates on instagram at @anxieteathepodcast

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:02

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Anxiety.

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Anxiety. Welcome to anxiety. Anxiety. Hello, everyone. Welcome to Anxiety the podcast. I'm Kenzie Wynne, your host, back in action. I hope so much that you all listened to part one with the wonderful, the fabulous, the magnanimous Lacey. If you haven't, I do recommend you go, you give that a listen. This is part two. We're gonna dive into some human design, which I'm so, so excited. I think it's like a truly life-changing topic. And I'm I'm just so excited to hear the things that Lacey has to say. Quick little bio intro, just in case you didn't listen to part one. Lacey is a fluid, intuitive Piscean reflector and TV and film actor who is passionate about growth, alignment, and creative collaboration. She is here to inspire self-liberation through her lived experience of embodiment, expansion, and trusting the wisdom of the body. And without further ado, we're gonna just dive right back in. Hi, Lacey. I gotta say, I love I love using words like dive, you know, because you are a Pisces. Oh, thank you for that. And it's it's that it's that water symbolism. Let's swim, let's be mermaids together. Let's be fucking mermaids together. I loved playing mermaids as a kid. One of my very best friends from childhood is Cancer. Oh, yeah. And that's also like big let's play mermaids energy.

SPEAKER_00 1:43

I mean, the water signs, man, when you get a cancer, a Scorpio, and a Pisces like together, that's magic.

SPEAKER_02 1:49

Magic. It's wild. It is magic. We should all hang out. Summer, if you're listening, I'm sure you are. You're gonna come over. We're gonna hang out with Lacey. We're all gonna go play mermaids, gonna be great. I saw, speaking of water signs, and like, cause right, Pisces, fish. That's your whatever. And then cancer is crab, which is another kind of water creature. Scorpio is Scorpion, which is always a little confusing, right? Because that's like not a sea creature. But when you think about it, all deserts were once oceans.

SPEAKER_00 2:17

I was gonna say evolution.

SPEAKER_02 2:19

And so Scorpios are just angry.

SPEAKER_00 2:21

Yeah! And that anger serves you. No, I love Scorpios, and I always think of you as the fire of the water science. And maybe what helps that is the fucking desert is not.

SPEAKER_02 2:31

So you're like, Yeah, literally, like we're just we're searching, we're digging into the intensity of it though for the water.

SPEAKER_00 2:39

And you gotta have that tail, that venom to protect yourselves.

SPEAKER_02 2:42

You got to. And to protect those we love, which we do. Yeah. Um, so we're gonna dive in because this is a pretty dense topic. And I really want to give you the space to sort of tell our listeners as much as you can. Um you you can't see right now, but uh Lacey is like really just getting into her flow right now.

SPEAKER_00 2:59

She's really My body's always flowing out.

SPEAKER_02 3:01

Yeah, she's really ready to talk about some human design. Human design. Um Lacey will be able to give more, but the best way I can, I kind of loop it into it's like if astrology and and Enneagram and Myers Briggs all kind of had a baby. Yeah. It's really holistic and beautiful way of like coming into your knowing and coming into your destiny, I think a little bit. Absolutely. Um it's just a really, really beautiful way to understand yourself. It can get super big and broad, like like I said, like your destiny. It can also get so, so, so specific, like your digestion, and I'm not even kidding.

SPEAKER_00 3:40

So we love those notes. We love hopefully understand more of what we're talking about.

SPEAKER_02 3:45

So honestly, Lace, I'm gonna like let you just take the stage. Um, if you would love to just give an intro of human design, I think everybody would love to hear that.

SPEAKER_00 3:55

I I first just loved hearing your interpretation of it because it is such a complex system that when I'm even starting the tip of the iceberg of explaining it to people, I go, and I'm already going, I can feel people's energies, and and the more I understand someone's energy, the more I can understand what best way they will perceive and digest it. Um and that's the beauty of us being all different. Right. Um and hearing you go, okay, the self-knowledge systems of Enneagram, of Myers-Briggs, of astrology are where it fits, and that's true because it uses ancient modalities. Um it uses the Chinese i ching, which is so old, the ancient archetypes that just repeat on and on throughout time. And we can embody all of them, but a lot of us have specific ones. Um, the Kabbalah or Kabbalah Kabbalah, I'm not even exactly sure how to correctly pronounce that. It's Jewish. Um and it is the like esoteric piece of Judaism and the understanding there, which again, ancient wisdom. Um, the astrology, it uses astrology, it even uses like quantum physics. It uses uh, there's more to it. I'm lapsing now, but my understanding of it is that human design is a deeply validating self-knowledge system that yes, blends ancient wisdom with modern science to help you understand your unique energetic design so that you can focus on forcing. Uh sorry, stop focused on forcing and start living more in alignment, more of that effort and flow. Um, we each come here with a dream sewn into our soul's purpose. And these bodies, these human bodies, are our vessels through which that purpose is meant to be expressed and manifested. Um, and each of us has a distinct energetic blueprint that shows us how we're designed to make decisions, use our energy to the best of its benefit, and to move through life as who we actually are rather than who we've been conditioned by society to be. So for me, it returns us to our our most like our integrity. Yeah. You know, I think of a plane and and how it's amazing to me how planes fly. We can fly, right? But like because every single piece of that plane is an integrity. And if one piece, I don't know if you've ever been on a plane that couldn't had to wait on the tarmac because one something, a bolt was out of line, they will make you wait an hour or more because that it's not an integrity, meaning it's maybe not gonna fly its best to its purpose. And we're the same way, you know, we're machines if you want to boy, if you want to look through that lens. Some people communicate through that lens, and other people are like, I want to be a human meat sack. What whatever, you know, float your boat. But for me, the human design system has just given me so much permission um to trust my sacred timing, my sacred design um to protect my energy and to stop leaking myself into situations that aren't aligned because of conditioning. And I mean, the greatest conditioning I can think of is people pleasing. You know, I mean, there's many other ones, and I think you know, gender-wise, there are different types of constructs that we find ourselves under, and you know, but conditioning could be religious conditioning, etc. I digress, but I know that for me, when I am in alignment with my integrity and who I'm here to be, life becomes less about all that exhausting effort and more about flow. Um more about uh I I like this idea that boundaries are like the unseen architect or architecture that makes all of our flow and alignment possible.

SPEAKER_03 7:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:25

Because I used to view um myself as like a uh because I'm a reflector. Okay, well, gosh. Let's get into just the the breakdown the human design system. Yeah. Now that you've heard my kind of expression of it, your spiel, it's my spiel, if you will.

SPEAKER_02 7:42

Which works beautiful, by the way.

SPEAKER_00 7:43

Thank you. Thank you. It it's so hard because I there are so many ways to explain human design and and and to get into the history of how it was formed in like the 80s and 90s, channeled by a guy who changed his name to Ra Uuru. I mean, it's just like wild, but I do believe we are all here as channels, and um the way that the source can use us and speak to us is just infinite. You know, and so of course we're you know, the way we think about facts is just up until that time, that's what we accepted as known and certain. Yeah. Until it was obliterated by, you know, new science or new revelations that then changed it to now we believe this, or we thought this was good for us, but now we believe that because we're continually learning, expanding, and evolving. Um in the human design system, you start with your energy type. There are five different energy types. You have generators, manifesting generators, manifestors, projectors, and reflectors. The majority of people, I don't know the up-to-date statistics, but I'd say probably in the range of like 65% of people are generators or manifesting generators. Y'all keep the world turning. Kinsey is a manifesting generator, and um, I'm just gonna go ahead and say it. I don't give a fuck what anyone thinks. If I could change my energy type, I would love to be a manifesting generator. Manny Jennies, man, y'all do it all. You really can. Also, there's nothing wrong with your ADHD. Society tells us there's things wrong with us and they label. And I'm like, man, if you were just following your own and trusting the way energy moves through you, you you wouldn't need to be even medicated. And now, medication, I know we've gotten into conversations about that. And I I do view, I'm not against medication, but I do view it as training wheels. I view it as like um a seasonal stepping to help us learn a new version of ourselves as we overcome conditioning and and heal and return to um who we're meant to be. But I do think we were created in systems and in bodies that can be healed and integrated to the point where we don't require anything outside of us um to manipulate who we are. Like there's nothing wrong with us, is what I'm trying to say. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:56

Which I don't know if I told you. I uh briefly, I obviously didn't go in depth because I don't have the beautiful understanding that you do, but I did calculate my mom. What is she? She's a generator.

SPEAKER_00 10:08

Oh, hell yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:09

Enneagram type three, wing two, generator baby.

SPEAKER_00 10:12

Wait, what is her uh authority? I do know. I didn't get into deep into that.

SPEAKER_02 10:18

I'll text her again and see if I can look that up for Oh my god. And she is, and she is. Like I would have said that even before looking it up. She is fully a generator. She is keeping that train. Don't they? Yes.

SPEAKER_00 10:30

They are, I mean, keep these analogies if they serve you, but I do think of generators as um like the worker bees, but some people I don't like that analogy. I'm like, that's okay, you don't have to. Another one that's probably my favorite analogy, um, and and and the way I envision generators, classic generators. They're different from manifesting generators. Generators are the bonfire.

SPEAKER_02 10:52

Yeah.

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Generators are that is so my mom. It isn't it? Yeah, they're the people that communities revolve around. They keep people warm, they keep people fed, um, they are nourishing. We tell stories around them. They are they are the bonfire. Look at especially like civilization back when we were in villages. Oh god, everything revolved around the bonfire. That's that's your generator. They keep things going, they keep life in motion. Um, kind of a I'll give a sentence definition maybe of each type, and then I'll go into my more understanding of them in my Piscean metaphor way. Yeah. But generators are here to build and create through sustainable energy by responding to what lights them up.

SPEAKER_02 11:33

Love.

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And this applies to everyone, but let me tell you, especially generators and manifesting generators, since y'all's most of y'all's strategies are gonna be to respond to life. If it's not a fuck yes, it's a fuck no. Okay? Stop putting yourself in those people-pleasing dynamics of like, what do people want from me? What I should do this, I should don't shoot all over yourself. Like, if it's not a no, or if it's not a hell yes, a full body yes, if you don't want to say fuck yes, I get it. If it's not a full body yes and it doesn't light you up, it's a no. And you honoring what's your like let yet your yet let your yes be yes and your no be no, honoring that is what protects your life force that you are here to share and live out, which keeps you vital, which keeps you shining. Um okay, so that's a generator. A manifesting generator are wildfire. But in the most beautiful interpretation, don't think California wildfire is here. Manifesting generators are here to move fast. Y'all are here to innovate, y'all are here to create in nonlinear ways, so all those spirals up and down, whatever, um, by following what excites you and being free to pivot at any point. You need that freedom. And and truly, I haven't met a manifesting generator who is not ADHD. And there's nothing wrong with it. I love it. I celebrate your existence because I see um a manifesting generator as being like an entertainer that's got all the plates spinning and or or maybe even a garden where you've got a bunch of different. It's like those video games where you're trying to keep everything afloat, but like you jump over here, you tend to that, and then you feel drawn over there, and then you tend to that, and it's you're meant to be a little crazy and all over the place. I love it. I love it. There's no like we don't need to apologize for our existence, and that's what this system helped me to realize is like, oh well, I can appreciate how different you are from me. Yeah. I I don't need you to fit my uh, you know, what would make me comfortable about you. I just accept how you show up and I get it because that's how you work. And how fun is that? Okay, so those are our generators. We get our life force from y'all because y'all have either both your root and your sacral defined, because those are the greatest like vital centers and chakra system. That's another ancient modality that human design uses, the chakra system. But when you look at a human design chart, your human design body graph, you're gonna see a couple more, um, actually two more, um, energy centers than you would see in a general chakra alignment up and down the spine, because it includes the G center, which is really your blood, which is, you know, liver, it's all over your whole body. Blood is going everywhere. So it might look like it's in the center and it it revolves around your like sense of self, but it really is everywhere. Um, and then the other one that creates the difference is the splenic. Um, the splenic side, uh, it's another center that you generally don't see in the general understanding of chakras, the seven chakras, but um the spleen is like that gut instinctual primal response. Yeah. Um but yeah, so all the different um energy that the us non-energy types get from the classic energy types generators, manifesting generators, um, it's because when we're around them, we sample their vitality. We sample that defined root center, that defined sacral center that is just, oh, it's so good. It is so good to feel. I mean, even right now, we're going on our second, you know, podcast episode and we're just sitting here on the floor and I am flying because I'm sampling uh literally Kinzie's energy. Um I'm really sampling her sacral creative vitality in life force as we're having this expansive creative conversation. Um, okay, so the non-energy types, hello. You are you are safe? I am one of you. There are projectors, okay? Projectors make up, I would say generally probably 20 to 24% of people. Um, projectors are here to guide, see systems clearly, and offer wisdom when they're recognized and invited. That is your strategy. Um, and that's why projectors, I just want to shout you out because I love you so much. I see you. I was raised by a father projector, I have a projector brother, lots of projector friends. You are valuable, your insight is valuable. What you see is a gift, and it is important that you share it. But it's important that you share it with people who care to hear it because you will waste your energy and feel rejected. If uh projectors are very sensitive, that it's your gift. It's a gift to be a sensitive person, to tune into the room and to see things that other people aren't necessarily seeing, but is your gift to share that and to kind of know how to navigate within that. But that strategy of needing to be invited is so important because um, if you don't honor that and you try to, you know, share yourself and your insight with someone who doesn't care to hear it or doesn't have the time or doesn't value you, um, then it's gonna make you feel rejected and that sucks. So follow that strategy. And you can ask for the invitation too. You can be like, hey, is it all cool if I share this with you? I I just was feeling or seeing or sensing. And then if someone's like, no, then okay, that's that. It's you know, let that be that. It doesn't have to be personal. Nothing is personal. Those Don Ruiz four agreements. Holla. Have you read those? I have. It's been a lot a long time. Do not take things personally, man. That will haunt me for the rest of my life. No, it won't. No, it won't. It has haunted me. Um now I finally get it. And I'm like, let it go. Um, okay, projectors, love you. Going on to manifestors next. I'd say manifestors, the stats I've seen is seven to nine percent of people are manifestors. Um I love manifestors. My husband's a manifestor. And I actually know way more manifestor women than I know men. I honestly can only think of my husband as far as the manifest- No, I can think of a couple, actually. His best friend, one of his best friends in Paris. Um, shout out Thierry. Um, but manifestors are iconic. You're the catalyst. The understanding is that you're here to initiate and bring new ideas into motion by following inner urges and informing others as you go. So your strategy is to inform. And if you don't inform, then how are we gonna know how to carry out your brilliant ideas into materialization and manifestation? Um, now, of course, I believe in manifestation for every energy type, but manifestors really are like boom, bam, bam, boom, bam, whatever. They bring stuff in through divine channel and just constantly are receiving ideas, and you have to trust that spark and fan that flame by informing other people so that we can collaborate you on bringing that magic into existence that we need, the world needs. Um, and I mentioned briefly, but I'll just reiterate that generators manifesting generator manifesting generators, the energy types that your strategy is to respond. Um, I'll get into the details of that in a minute. And then lastly, we have reflectors. Hi, I'm one of you. I'm a reflector. Reflectors, we make up one percent of the population. As in every a hundred people you have, you normally only have one reflector showing up, which is kind of wild because most animals are reflectors, which I love because I'm like, they're so pure. Um and uh as we've evolved as a humankind, um, there used to be more reflectors, and we have evolved into these individuated systems of different energy types because we are more of an individuated society now. We have all of our different parts and you have manifesting generators who can get it all done by themselves. It's amazing.

SPEAKER_02 18:49

It's literally a marvelous a long time because we get easily distracted as you should literally following your integrity.

SPEAKER_00 18:58

But reflectors, man, we are here to reflect the health of the environments and communities, moving with natural cycles and trusting timing over urgency. Our strategy is to follow the lunar cycle. And so people might put a generalization of, like, yeah, you have to wait 28 days before making a decision. Okay, no. Your body knows is the point. All of our bodies know. And when you understand these different ways of beings and understand kind of the way you work, you can honor it and overcome the conditioning society has put on us to just, you know, override our bodies with the logic that is very limited of understanding to try to be what you're not. And it can feel I feel so many people, I know so many generators stuck in um shame and guilt because they haven't been responding to life and what lights them up, they've been doing what society wants them to do. They've been doing what a good girl should do, what a good mother should do, what um, you know, a good all that kind of stuff. And I'm like, oh no, no, no, no. No, respond to what lights you up and and tune back into your joy, your spark, that vitality you've been birthed with, and that will direct you. Um, okay, so now that we've broken down the types, I think the next thing to get into would be authority. Um, because we have different authorities that basically authorities for me is how you understand and honor your body, not your mind, that is designed to guide you and making the best decisions for yourself. So if you have an emotional authority, your clarity comes with time. You need to sleep on it, like 24 to 48 hours normally. You have to ride the emotional wave rather than deciding in the moment if you have an emotional authority. Your emotions, um, even if they scare you, are not a um are your emotions are a gift, is what I'm trying to tell you. And it's okay to trust even the heavy ones, even the panic, the anxiety of like it is what teaches you, it is what um guides you towards the clarity you need in your body. Um, sacral authority, decisions come from the gut, and that is an immediate yes or no. That is the most important. Kinsey is this. So that is the most important. When I say let your fuck yes, you know, be that be what it is, and if it's not a fuck yes, it's a fuck no. Let your yes be yes, let your no be no. Honoring that is how you protect your vital energy here. It's how you stay in alignment. Because if you're wasting your energy by giving it away and leaking it to people who want stuff from you, because maybe say you do you have an emotional defined center, your solar plexus? I can look it up right now for you.

SPEAKER_02 21:30

One second.

SPEAKER_00 21:31

We'll get into that. Yeah and I'll I'll continue just describing the next one as she looks that up. Splenic authority is the next one. It's where your intuition speaks to you quietly in the present moment, and it normally doesn't repeat itself. It's that gut check. It's that like, I just know. And don't avoid that knowing. The more you pay attention to that ping and that knowing from your instinct, um, the more it will start to show up, and you'll have that connection to honoring it. Um okay, Kenzie just pulled up her chart. So she does not have her solar plexus defined, and what makes her The manifesting generator that she is, she has this sacral center defined, um, which is like I said, that creative life force vitality. Um, and she also has, let's see, five out of the nine centers defined, but having that emotional center undefined. Now, for those of us with undefined centers, um, reflectors, high, we have all undefined centers. We're completely open, which does not mean we should be available to everyone all the time. Whoa, that's a lesson I've learned. But all of the undefined centers, meaning the centers that you're gonna see in white that are not colored in, those centers are your openness. They are inconsistent, meaning they are constantly sampling the definition of the people you're around. So for Kinsey, having her solar plexus undefined means that when she's around other people, she's sampling their emotional solar plexus energy, their emotions. But on the kind of shadowy condition side, you could receive a lot of conditioning there from where you were raised for, you know, to be, you know, emotionally programmed to be a people pleaser, right? And that's boy, boy was I. See? But the way that you return to yourself is following your beautiful sacral authority, and that is gonna let you know, oh, it's a yeah, or oh, it's a no. And I what I love and I just look at an admiration at you and marvel at is like we're so different in that way that I really have to wait for the wisdom of what my body reveals to me over weeks. But I can marvel at your clarity that comes like like lightning. That's amazing to me. I know, and I'm like, and when you honor it, your clarity, your you let your yes be yes and a no-be no helps others. It's rippling out of clarity. Your intuition, your connection, your integrity for yourself, your alignment with yourself creates the opportunity and permission for others to have the same and experience the same. Your clarity, especially as a sacral authority, helps other people make decisions because they can then respond, depending again on their authority, but they can respond in their own way to your clarity. So I just love that. Okay, we did emotional, sacral, splenic authority. We've got a couple more authorities left. Ego authority, which is also the heart center. Um, it's so funny when people think of chakras, think of heart center, it's like the love. And I'm like, I actually think of the G center more of like the sense of self and love. Whereas actually in human design, the heart center, the ego center is more about willpower. It is where, um, and if you have an ego heart authority, it's where your decisions are about desire and will and what you truly want, not what you should want. So that's where it's good to be honest with yourself always. Now, self-projected authority, pretty um rare. And I actually know a couple people with this, and I love it. I love this one because truth emerges for you when you hear yourself speak out loud. You literally have to hear yourself. Whether it's um, you know, having a soundboard of a person, and that's where we can get into like different types of definition. There's single definition, triple definition, split definition, on and on and on. I'm not gonna get y'all overwhelmed right now with all that. Well, you know, ride the waves if you feel drawn to dive in more. There are endless podcast information to get more nuanced on your understanding of this. Um, but I love self-projected authority because it is like, man, literally just like think out loud, even if you're with yourself and and hear yourself, and then that will bring your clarity. How beautiful is that? Yeah. Um, witness yourself. And then the last, again, for us reflectors, lunar authority. Literally, we have no authority within ourselves. And that used to scare the fucking shit out of me. And then I started to go on my human design understanding and embodiment journey because it is more about the embodiment of your design. Cause I love that I am someone who just is so curious and I love to understand, but I can actually limit myself if I feel like I'm clinging or to the understanding, like I have to understand. Whereas my soul often tells me, hey, babe, love that you want to understand. Um, you'll know what you need to know when you need to know it. But maybe if you don't understand it yet, surrender to the awe. That's more fun.

SPEAKER_02 25:56

If you want to feel more of that magic, like let's surrender to the awe.

SPEAKER_00 26:00

Surrender to the awe. Oh my God.

SPEAKER_02 26:02

I want that tattooed stuff.

SPEAKER_00 26:04

Well, you know what for me, surrender to the awe. If I summed that up into a word, it's appreciate. And I literally have a ring that says appreciate on it. And hot take, I did a shrooms journey where this came to me. I was looking at a puddle on the ground for probably an hour. And I was like, whoa, I kept walking forward three feet, back three feet, forward three feet, back three feet. Because depending on where the light hit it or didn't, it looked like it wasn't there. And then I moved three feet forward and it was like shining and reflecting the whole room. And I was like, what the fuck? And I tried to understand it, and the spirit literally said to me, because you know, I proceed as your soul tells you what's right for you. I was in a very safe environment. It was the only time I had prepared for a decade to do shrooms. I'm so glad I did it. It might be enough for the lifetime because I'm so sensitive. I feel like I'm on a shrooms journey every day being a reflector. Um and it was very intense, but I I I had lots of revelations and in that surrender to that, I the soul said, just appreciate, appreciate that puddle. Appreciate that from one perspective it's not there, and from the other perspective, it reflects the whole room. Shift your perspective, you shift your whole life. It was just this beautiful reminder to just appreciate what's in front of us and surrender to the mystery. Allow yourself to have all. You can have about anything in front of you. Even if you close your eyes, you can have awe. It is something you can feel and tune into.

SPEAKER_02 27:26

Um I just want um you to put in your bio um I feel like I'm on shrooms all the time.

SPEAKER_00 27:33

I do. I do. That needs to be your I I think so. I think you're right. If people want to really understand the way I exist, um, because I didn't do shrooms for a decade, because every time someone gave me their experience of it, I was like, that's me every day. I always hug trees. I always talk to trees. I always feel the vibrations all around me. I always overload sense things, and and I was just like, you know.

SPEAKER_02 27:57

Oh my god, that's so funny. Summer is the cancer I was talking about earlier. She just texted me as we're using as we're using my phone. She's taking on her cancer energy as she texts. So funny. Shout out, Summer. Um I sorry, I just had a moment just with you chatting about you feeling like you're on streams every day. I I had like a vision. Um, you one day you're gonna be on Drew Barrymore's.

SPEAKER_00 28:18

Oh, I love I receive. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 28:20

And you're gonna you're gonna tell her this exact story. And she will get it. Yeah, and she's gonna hold each other and it's gonna be very adorable. Um you won't have to say anything.

SPEAKER_00 28:28

I'm calling it right now. This is the beauty of energy and how energy, and this is what I'm loving, is energy never lies. And energy is what is everything. Yeah. And and when I boil everything down, I know energy responds to energy. The the this you know, laws of the universe, there's so many, but at the end of the day, energy attracts energy. And so if you're in a vibration, you're attracting more of that vibration for better or worse. Holla. Having is evidence of wanting. Um, and so that's our power. That's our and so what I love is I am in such a discerning alignment right now that I am honoring my authority, I am honoring my design, I am so in the flow and in integrity, and I love this joy that is just flowing through me, and I just get to witness and allow. And get heck, guess what? Some days it's the wave I'm in is despair. And I have to I'll also witness and allow and not judge it. It's only bad, it's only a bad day if I decide with my conscious creative labeling system that it's bad. Yeah. But if you say, hey, I'm gonna surrender this day and let it be what it is, it's here to teach too. I love the roomy um guest house poem. Have you heard it? Yes, I love it. Dear Lord, so good. Yes. Man, look up. We might have to read that in a second. Will you pull that up actually? I'm gonna get Ken's and she's got such a good voice. I'm gonna have her read it when she pulls it up. Um, but uh now I'm saying that energy, you know, we use language, um, and obviously we speak many different languages, but for me, language is so limiting. I love language. I'm passionate about language. I I I love learning French because my husband's French. But um at the end of the day, I love universal language the most, and that's energy. And that's why I love dance, uh, because dance transcends what language can't touch. Art in general, expression. I love watching foreign films, knowing I don't even have to know what they're saying. I feel it. I know what they're saying through energy. And Kenzie and I could literally, I know it's a podcast, so you do need our spoken language, but we could sit here and I just thought when you were like, I see you on Drew Barrymore's show, I was like, it would be the same with her if she were sitting with us. We wouldn't have to say anything. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:32

We could literally just go and then like and then like hold each other and cry. Yeah, and we have happy tears.

SPEAKER_00 30:38

All that all that needed to be understood and shared between us would be transmitted. Uh-huh. Um, that's how powerful we are. Um anyway, okay. I want to get back into um uh the next layer of the intro to human design, which are your profile lines. Now, your profile lines are um very important because they are basically like how do I even describe profile lines? They are how you learn, relate, and express your life lessons. Yeah. And you're gonna have two normally. I think, yeah, everyone has two. Um, I imagine. Gosh, I've never met anyone who doesn't have two. But it depends because when you look at your human design chart, as I'm looking at Kenzie's right now, you have on the right side the letters or and numbers, numbers, they're numbers, not letters. Didn't mean to throw you off. Um, if you know astrology, you will look at the planetary symbols and understand this is your astrology chart. It is what you already understand about your astrology breakdown. But human design has two listings. On the right in black are your conscious numbers, um, which are your gates, which link to your um planetary placements. And my gosh, this is where I get jacked up because it all comes together. I uh this might be a little overwhelming, and you know what? It's okay. You don't need to understand it all right now. Just reflow and receive and trust that your energy is receiving, and you can look into if you're like if you are a I see you, if you are a um traditional generator and you're getting overwhelmed by this blast of information and you're foundational. Gener generators, classic generators, I love them because they're like, no, no, no, don't throw me into the middle of the book. I need to start at the foundation and work my way up. Whereas manifesting generators, y'all can literally open a book and jump into the middle. You can jump into the middle of a conversation. You don't need to know everything, you just fly with what's in front of you. That's why I say wildfire for y'all, because I'm like, you flit around wherever the wind takes you, and I love it. Um however, I know what when I'm introducing human design and and the expression of what it is to a generator, a classic generator, I'm like, hey, this might be a lot at first. Um follow your authority of responding and trusting, you know, and then look more into it. Um I'll let you know what my mom says. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 32:55

When she listens to this episode.

SPEAKER_00 32:57

But basically, on the right side uh is your conscious design, which is linked to your birthday, which is, you know, your astro chart basically. Um we all know that. But on the left side, the red letter numbers. Why am I saying letters? The red numbers are your unconscious design, and it informs as much of your reading as your conscious design. Now they take the unconscious design and the planetary placements like 88 days before you were born. And I fucking love this. Cool. I don't even fully uh again, I just love it because it's before the world made an impression on who you were gonna be. It's who you were made to be. Your unconscious design is like when you were in your mother's womb, that's who you were created to be. And then your conscious design on the right, which they often call your personality, um, if you hear those interchangeably, um, it's so cool because it's like once the world made an impression on you, like everything in uh in this world is relational, right? So when you were born, that's why the time of birth matters. And not only the time of birth, but the impression of the moment that you're born in your birth time matters because how were you born in relationship to who was in the room with you? The mother, the father, the lack thereof. Um, that all shifts who you're gonna be in this life. It affects you the same way that the planetary placements are important to their position in relation to you at your moment of birth. It affects you for the rest of your life. And those are signs that the creator, whatever you want to call it, has given us to look to. And people have been looking at the stars for guidance forever, and we always will. Yeah. I love it. I love it. Okay, so but your profile lines are guided and taken from that because believe it or not, there is another human design chart to look at that is even more expansive and maybe a little more overwhelming to some people at first, um, than the initial human design chart that you're gonna see the body graph and then the numbers in black on the right, personality conscious, and then the numbers on the left in red. When you look at the expanded chart, it's like your quantum mandala chart, is what it's called. Oh, it's so exciting because it is one big massive circle that represents the different months and the different astrological signs and placements, the zodiacs, and each of the Chinese Yi Qing archetypal gates, which if you know what those are, you can look them up. They're hexagrams, meaning they have six lines. And each line means different things. You have your yin lines and your yang lines. Yin is feminine, they are the broken lines, and um yang are masculine, they are the um dashed lines that are not broken. And each archetype has influence of either you only have one or two that have all masculine or all feminine, the rest are variations. And then each of those lines that you put them together, they tick, tick, tick day by day into six, six, six, six, and they continue on. I know some people are freaked out about me saying six, six, six. Guess what? You can take that as an angel number, by the way. Everything is what you make of it. Anyway, so um the hexagrams are Chinese i Qing that break down into different human design gates. Some people also refer to these as gene keys, some also refer to them as like, oh my god, there's so many different terms, so I'm not trying to overwhelm you, but they are how we basically get to understand that in this lifetime, based on your birth, what are the archetypal energies you are working with that support? It's kind of like, what are my superpowers in this life? Like, what did I come into this life with that are already supporting me? And I believe anything is possible for any of us, but um like like we can be and step into whatever energy we want to if we focus enough on it. But at the end of the day, you're working with what you're working with. And that's just why astrology people transition really easily and fluidly into human design. Yeah. Um, or sometimes they pick one or the other, and I'm like, yes, and it's just my approach to life, and I'm a reflector, so it all works.

SPEAKER_02 36:47

Yeah, I mean, I'm I yes and this. I think it goes hand in hand.

SPEAKER_00 36:51

It is, and it's it's um knowing when you look at the specific gates or you know, human design um gene keys as well, you can say, um, that are activated for you. It's like, oh, that's like my superpower, my spiritual gifts I'm coming into this life with that I exude, I emanate. Again, when you look at your astrology chart, you would understand this as, oh, my sun sign, my ascendant sign, my moon sign, these mean different things, my planetary placements. These are still acknowledged in human design. Human design just kind of takes it to another level. And um, anyway, that's how we get your profile line. So it's when we look at your birthday and we look at um what day you were born, it literally goes down to what number of that hexagram line of that specific Chinese Yi Ching, which translates to your human design gate you were born under, that's where we get your profile line. And listen, that was a lot. Again, you don't have to understand this right now, but that's kind of the origin of how we get these lines. Because in numbers, people often go, why are profile number lines, you know, important? Well, they are, because like I said, they describe how you learn, relate, and express your life lessons.

SPEAKER_01 37:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:53

And my lines are three five, and they only are six, because remember, it comes from the hexagram, the six. And Kinsey is what I'm looking at right here. Let me see if I pull that over.

SPEAKER_02 38:03

Oh, we're three fives. Both three fives. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 38:06

I love us. Yeah. Oh man, we are here to fuck around and find out. Yes. Yes, yes. We learn through experience. And for me, I have no negative connotation on mistake, on the word mistake. I love that our perceived mistakes were always meant to be to teach us in order to know who we are, we had to know who we were not. Absolutely. You know? Um, that's very much a three-line thing to say. Yeah. So profile lines, let's break them down real quick. Okay, if you have a line one, wow, we love you, we appreciate you. You're an investigator. You can't escape it. You are a seeker. You learn through research and foundation, and you want to understand everything. And honestly, thank God you do, because you lead us to more understanding and more foundational understanding, which can lead to more embodiment. Okay, number two's okay, don't get offended by this phrase of calling it the hermit. Um, I actually love the hermit, especially in tarot. I love correspondences across different, you know, understanding systems. The hermit is so enlightened because you have solitude, right? But there's another understanding of it. Some people call it like the natural because you have intuitive gifts. You need space. You need space to tune in to your intuition to know what you have to share. Um, the three-line, that's me and Kenzie. Uh, traditional name is the martyr, which is like dramatic, which we probably love. Um, also, you could just say the experimenter. Um, we learned through trial and error. That's just what it is. We had to experiment. For me, getting married and divorced at a young age was almost like written in the stars for me. And honestly, through my um understanding, and honestly, because Kens and I both have a three and then a five line, I'll get to that in a second, of why we're here to help people learn through the mistakes we've made. Yeah. Yeah. Um, number four, y'all are the charmers, or we could call you the connector. Man, y'all influence through relationships and y'all network effortlessly. It is beautiful to watch a four in their alignment because they things just fall into their lap. They things just go fluidly for them. They just connect, connect, connect. Um, fives, it's funny because the traditional name is the heretic, which is so witchy. Wait. I love, I love. But there's also the visionary. We could call her that. The problem solver, but she's also often projected onto because people do perceive us in that fifth line as being someone with answers and solutions, but they might project their problems onto us. And now everyone's capable of projecting onto everyone, and we have to really identify that and protect ourselves. It's like the manic pixie dream girl of the city. But yeah, it is, it is. But also, like, we're bad bitch, like solution oriented. We're here, you know, and and we can take it as long as we got good boundaries. Yes. We're not getting muddy with like whose energy is whose, right? Which can be hard for me as a reflector. But I I I tuned in now. I I got more clarity. Um, that's why it's just paramount that we take care of ourselves so that you're orienting from like your source and your anchor versus like, again, conditioning. Um, number six is the last one, and boy, do y'all get to ball out. You kind of get three and one. Um, the role model. They are the person whose wisdom lived like over experience of time, is that what turns around and makes them an influential person. And people learn even by your example. You don't even have to be like um intentional about being like, I'm a role model. You don't even have to try to step into those shoes, you just live it by example. They kind of experience everything. They have three phases of their life. The first 30-ish, um, basically before your Saturn return, you're kind of in a three-line phase of fucking around and finding out. Um, highly support that um and encourage it. And then in your like 30 to 40s, almost to 50, you're more experiencing a little, maybe a bit of the hermit or something. You're you're you're taking in, finding introspection on evaluating where you are in life and what everything you experienced in your younger life led to and who you want to be moving forward. And then kind of after your mid-40s to 50s, you're just living out by example. You you're you feel solid and you trust yourself, and it's just kind of cruise control at that point. Um unless, of course, you just want to keep learning and challenging yourself. Um gosh, I I just love that it at the end of the day, the human design system is the reminder that you don't need to fix yourself.

SPEAKER_02 42:08

You just returned to you to to home base. Yeah, I love it so much, and I I want to chime in because the way I view astrology, especially, and and now human design is because personally, right, when I think of um God, Gus, the universe, whatever. I I yes, I believe in a creator. I believe in a divine creator. I think that you sitting across from me, you are too complex, too beautiful, too, too written to have just appeared in my and that's just my opinion. And my divine organization orchestration behind it.

SPEAKER_00 42:47

Yes, you were orchestrated.

SPEAKER_02 42:49

You were written.

SPEAKER_00 42:49

I love the orchestrated word. Yes. Because that's like we're all instruments here to be finely tuned to our best ability, but we're all different instruments. Absolutely. And we play one big symphony together when we're in tune. Absolutely. In alignment and carry on.

SPEAKER_02 43:01

I love you. That I love you. And that, but it just it does. It just makes sense to me. Um believing in a creator has always made both logical, artistic, emotional sense. So, and that might also be because I'm a creative. Yeah, I don't know. That that but that's always made sense to me. So when I was starting to study, you know, astrology a little deeper, and then when you introduced me to human design, there was this sense, because especially with astrology, like in especially like the communities we grew up in, right? Those very um legalistic Christian communities, like astrology comes with either, you know, at best an eye roll.

SPEAKER_00 43:41

Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_02 43:42

At worst, uh you're th that's witchcraft, that's hell, that's evil, that's you know, horrible, horrible, horrible. And it yeah, and it that never made sense to me. And especially the more I study it, and the more I even study the Bible, and the more I think about God the as a creator, you know. Thinking of the story of Genesis and the creation of the world. Everything was created before us, right? So God creates like the heavens and the sky and the moon and the stars and all of the things. And then it's literally said in the Bible. And then He creates mankind, and literally it basically says in the Bible, and we're his favorite. Which we can also come to understand. Then that everything created before us was created with us in mind, right? Which totally makes sense with like um animals and vegetation. That's to fuel to be living in harmony with the sun to keep us warm. You know, water to fuel like whatever. But but there had to be divine purpose with the heavenly bodies and the stars. Imagine if with us in mind.

SPEAKER_00 44:44

Imagine if one thing was off. Yes. One thing was off, we'd all explode. Right. Like in pressure alone. You know what I mean? Right. How perfectly.

SPEAKER_02 44:51

But I'm even going beyond the physics and chemistry of it. I'm going to the astrology of it and the human design of it of this beautiful, divine creator who uses the heavenly bodies and the stars to trap the stories of our souls.

SPEAKER_00 45:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:10

Yeah. And it's not in this like Shakespearean fated destiny, like you have no power to overcome the co-create. No, we're co-created. But it is just this beautiful, like novel to step into. That is just gorgeous to me. And I would really encourage if any of my um maybe more uh black and white uh mega church Christian friends who might be tuning in to like try and open your mind up to that a little bit because I think that is so Christian. I really do. I think it is so divine and it is so um, in my opinion, further evidence of a creator.

SPEAKER_00 45:53

You know, I love that you're saying this because I feel very strongly that if we just follow what feels good, we will continually encounter God. Yeah, we find God there. And and and I remember thinking at a very young age, there's no way God can only talk to me through this Bible. Oh and I love that you brought up a quote from Looking for Alaska, and that's how God woke you up. You know what I mean? Like God wakes me up through Beatles' lyrics, God wakes me up through the way that my dog licks my face when I cry. You know what I mean? Like there's infinite ways. Like it is and I agree, I think it totally caters to um what religion ultimately the heart of religion wanted to do in the most beautiful, purest form, the holiest form, was to allow us to encounter love and allow us to encounter light, um, connection, uh, beauty, um, pleasure. And uh and to to yeah, I mean it transcends language, so I'm just using sound effects at this point. Um but I love that when I look at my youth, I knew God was speaking to me in ways that no one else understood. And at a younger age, my human ego was learning, but I want people to understand it. I want these adults to validate it for me. I want these adults to give me permission to be me and to encounter God the way that I am, to encounter all the way that I am, to encounter magic and to validate it. But uh what I'm learning is our human experience is so much more sacred than that. It's actually more sacred if only you get it, because that's your individual human expression of your soul, and no one has to get it. But guess what? The more you tune into what it is and how you get it, the more you magnetize those who do get it the way you get it. And and it's just so comforting because then you're like, oh, those are my people. And if they don't get it, that's okay. It's a misalignment. And guess what? Rejection is just redirection. It does not have to be personal, like we said, and following who feels good to you in this moment and honoring your body's knowledge and not having to get all in your head about like, oh, what do they think? What do they feel? Guess what? That's not your responsibility. And it's okay. They can handle it because the light that's in us, the light that's in me and you, it is in them. And it can guide them to their awakening, their healing, their journey that they're on, and we love them where they are. And I also want to say, I fucking love you people who are in the church. Um, I'm not, but I love you who are in it because you're supposed to be there. Some people are meant to stay in the church to live their light out through the church and through that understanding and those um choice of words. Whereas there are people who are meant to work in science and and and and work in quantum physics and understanding of energy and that language. And there are people that are meant to work in the spiritual woo-woo, you know, esoteric, whatever understanding. And then there's those of us who blend back and forth between all of them. And there's nothing wrong with that, it's valid. People do not have to validate your beliefs, your understanding, your experience for it to be real. And also, it's like that Harry Potter and Dumbledore quote where he's like, he's like, but it all happened in my head. And Dumbledore's like, well, did that make it any less real? Like, oh my God, for me, what happens in my head is the most holy part of my encounter of God because our imagination is what God gave us to be able to interpret and receive and divine understandings, like spiritual understanding, and it transcends our limited human minds that are wired to think the same again and again and again until we create new neural pathways, which is possible, but takes a little more effort. And so to be in that flow of receiving and you letting our imaginations, our intuitions, trusting it to receive what is true for us is the most magical gift we can give to ourselves in this world. And I just love it so much because for me, human design is all the arrows that point me back to understanding how to reconnect with and validate my soul's experience and expression through this body that I've been given, this gift of a human body I've been given. And I love being able to understand and appreciate, surrender to the all, what transcends the understanding of when I look at others and the way that they're organized to work. And I just appreciate it. I'm like, wow, you work like that. That's cool. You perceive like that, you believe that. I appreciate that. That's a completely different perspective than me because it expands me to know that. Um, so the last thing I'll mention real quick, because I know we're we're we're wrapping up, but um, is your human design, because there's so much more to it. So really dive in if this resonates with you. If this feels like a full body yes, go listen to podcasts. I love Day Luna and the podcast they have on human design. You can look up your exact type, your exact profile lines, and and and just dive in, enjoy.

SPEAKER_02 50:45

Plug yourself as well, everyone. Lacey is amazing. She could do a reading for you for intro reading. A little intro reading for you. So look her up her Instagram. Will you plug yourself?

SPEAKER_00 50:55

But I actually I will plug myself. Um, right now my Instagram account is at L-A-H-A-R-T-S-E-L-L-E. Um, my name that I go by is Lacey Hart as a as an artist. Um, and uh I I can be of service, but I actually would rather honestly point you to my friend Tresa because she just moved to Nashville. And she is a wonderful, wild, beautiful manifestor woman, very unique, um, very embodied, and and and what an expander of a of a human she's been for me. She does, um not only does she offer, you can look at her, I think it's hypnot uh human design hypnotherapy. Um, but you can look her up, Tresa. Um, I think human design hypnotherapy. I can't, I don't really have service, so I can't really look up exactly what her Instagram name is, but I think it's human design hypnotherapy or hypnotherapy, human design, because she does human design hypnotherapy. She looks at your chart and and understands how to speak to your subconscious and lead you to all the roots of understanding of yourself, which for me, I've been doing hypnotherapy sessions with Tressa every four to six months for the last several years. And I am not the same person in the most awakened way I never thought possible. Like me years ago, especially when I was struggling with anxiety and panic, and I used to be diagnosed bipolar. I'm no longer carrying that diagnosis. I no longer am medicated. I am stable, I am empowered, I am trusting myself. Um, even when I do have waves of, I don't have panic really anymore, but even when I have waves of anxiety, I trust myself in it and I navigate through it, and then it just, you know, the next day happens and I move on. Um it's still a teacher for me, but I'm just saying the hypnotherapy I have done with Tressa, I I have been one of those people who has been lucky to spend my 20s in and out of help with therapy and clinical psychotherapy. Um, I've been on the, you know, training wheels of medicines at different times to be what I needed in those moments to find regulation and find a safe place inside my body, which took me my whole adult life. Um and now it was kind of like I had reached a plateau with clinical talk therapy because it was cognitive and my language limited me. Whereas the hypnotherapy is subconscious. It is what is your subconscious is the key to everything. It knows everything. And oftentimes it protects us by not letting us access certain parts consciously because maybe we're not ready. But when you feel safe and you start to do the work, um you you can start to become accountable for your shadow and live a more integrated life where you feel more free and empowered to make, to take pause, to feel safe in your body, to be aware and conscious. And instead of living in, you know, your own protected perception of reality, you can be more present with people and feel safe in it to handle whatever's in front of you. But I kind of got to this point through my hypnotherapy with Tressa. And oh my God, I could have a whole episode on just talking about my hypnotherapy with her, but I'll just plug her and say, she's a resource. Um, reach out to her. You your whole life will change. And everything in life gives back to you as much as you give to it. So if you have the intent to really shift and face yourself, love yourself, integrate yourself, accept yourself and move forward and evolve for the better, to be able to pursue the dreams God gave you to live out. Like I'm telling you, what you want wants you. God wants us to be in the flow, to be receiving all the love and joy and dream come trues that have been on our hearts since we were little. And some of us had to tuck them away and tell ourselves they wouldn't happen, thinking we're protecting ourselves. But no, the heart of God really, if I know anything, it's that God wants us to live that dream out because it is a gift for you and it is a gift for everyone to see it through. Um, anyway, my gosh, trust us, hypnotherapy, yeah, it'll help you access yourself if you want. What a resource.

SPEAKER_02 54:44

Amazing. Um maybe we close this out with that roomy poem. Oh my gosh, would that be a good way to end this? Yes. Okay, I gotta pull it up.

SPEAKER_00 54:52

So shout out to your incarnation cross. I know I didn't get to get into that, but you'll look up what your incarnation cross is. It's basically your life's purpose in a very creative way of taking your conscious son and earth and your unconscious son and earth and your human design gates. Those four together create your incarnation cross and kind of help you understand if you're looking for navigation on what do I do with my life, like that'll help you get down and boil to the root of what it feels like. And um, okay, dive into that because again, there's so much more there. Let's go to Rumi now.

SPEAKER_02 55:21

I gave Lacey the impossible task of trying to describe human design in a very short amount of time. But don't you worry, friends, if this is something that interests you further, you can do your own research. You can reach out to Lacey directly. Tresa, of course, myself, I'm no professional, but I can guide you to someone who would definitely um further guide you. So uh yeah, open up that can of worms because it's it's fun. The universe is in that can.

SPEAKER_00 55:45

It's like, oh, you're trying to you're trying to live your best life? Yeah. Look at your human design.

SPEAKER_02 55:49

All right. So we'll close out this episode because I don't have trigger warnings for this. This was just a great information episode. I guess my trigger warning would be uh information overload. Um but we'll leave this episode with a beautiful poem by Rumi. It's called The Guest House. This being human is a guest house. Every morning, a new arrival, a joy, a depression, a meanness, some momentary awareness comes as an unexpected visitor. Welcome and entertain them all. Even if they are a crowd of sh sorrows who violently sweep your house empty of its furniture, still treat each guest honorably. He may be clearing you out for some new delight. The dark thought, the shame, the malice. Meet them at the door laughing and invite them in. Be grateful for whatever comes, because each has been sent as a guide from beyond.

SPEAKER_00 56:42

It's so good. It takes me back to I just had this flash on Kinsey recording her doing that because it's so special. But it reminds me of the Rainer Rilka quote that kind of tags along to that of like feel everything, no the the beauty, the terror, because no feeling is final. And that's where I can't separate those two, Rainer Rilka and the roomy poem guest house, because it is like our emotions are teachers. We don't have to identify with them, they move through us, and no feeling is final. But like honor them, you know? Yep. Ugh.

SPEAKER_02 57:12

Uh, thank you so much for tuning in. Thank you, Lacey, for being here. I love, love, love, love you. Thank you, Brandon, and Schematic Studios. Always, always. My Pisces brother. Shout out to Mo, our pod dog, for the cuddles. Thank you. We love you. Namaste. Have a good one.

unknown 57:31

Bye.