In this episode Cat W surprises Cat S with the episode topic. We talk about developing relationships with our kids and that being something to pursue rather than fear. We talk around the topic a bit and we compare notes on our parenting so far. We don't plan to talk about parenting that much but we think an odd episode here and there is probably ok - especially at the moment given that the only alternative is something Corona related. We finish off with a different Plumb Crumble to usual; we offer a pandemic friendly menu!