As church leaders and cultures continue to make headline for systemic failures, cover-ups and abuses of all kinds, you won't want to miss our first episode of 2021. We talk to Wade Thompson of Vital Church Ministry UK about how they help to provide churches going through transition and crisis. We ask him about what he's learned about why churches go wrong, the signs of a dysfunctional church and the thing our pastors and church leaders need most from us. It's more encouraging than it sounds - for a start, how great that such an organisation exists!