014 - The groin of the face

Episode 14. Still going. No one is more surprised than us.

Discord: https://discord.gg/gSFVGnecYR

Dead or Alive launches with 321 DLCs. A man grifts Zelda fans for ten years. Sonic wants your data. Valve releases a PS4 Pro in a trenchcoat for nine hundred quid. We cover all of this with the authority of two men who have no authority.

Also Harrison has been playing something called Slayblade...

Games (and other things) discussed:

• Dead or Alive (the DLC economy of a failing state)
• Fatal Fury: City of the Wolves
• Guilty Gear Strive
• Granblue Fantasy Versus
• Resident Evil 4 Remake
• Worms Crazy Golf
• The Steam Machine

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:00

Um yeah Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 0:02

Right. Yeah, so you've got a cold open, I imagine. But yeah, but I've got one as well.

SPEAKER_04 0:09

What are you doing doing? No, I don't know. Right, grow up. No, I no, because I actually have got a cold open.

SPEAKER_02 0:17

Yeah, go on then. What's yours?

SPEAKER_04 0:18

Oh, we like talking outside of Yeah, this is being recorded.

SPEAKER_02 0:21

This is being recorded, yeah.

unknown 0:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 0:23

Are we talking about it? So that where you have to like an idiot. Well, because people that are listening now, they're they're hearing this just to let you know. This is actually going in. Well, that's embarrassing. Yeah, it is a bit, isn't it? So maybe try to be a bit more professional and to start that I don't know what what was your goal there?

SPEAKER_04 0:40

Well, we started talking at the same time and then I thought.

SPEAKER_02 0:43

And then I thought it'd be funny to keep doing that, yeah. No, you're right. It was it actually it wasn't funny.

SPEAKER_04 0:49

No, sadly not, sorry.

SPEAKER_02 0:51

No. Right. Well, I won't do my cold open. Let's just get into the show because you've already because you've ruined it. Hello and welcome to Lucky and Wild, a podcast about fighting games and the video games that didn't cost £60 only to disappoint you. My name is Harrison Hunt, and with me, it's the it's your local idiot. It's Sean. That's you.

SPEAKER_04 1:24

Is there another person?

SPEAKER_02 1:25

No, it's you. No, that is you. We found that out in the intro there.

SPEAKER_04 1:29

You're an idiot.

SPEAKER_02 1:30

No, you no, no, but have you thought have you considered this? You are you're an idiot.

SPEAKER_04 1:37

Yeah, I have considered it. I have actually, to be fair, but denied.

SPEAKER_02 1:42

Right, so Jesus man, this podcast is so shit. Right, uh, yeah, we've got uh today we're gonna be doing this is a video game show, obviously, and today we're gonna be doing the feedback. We're gonna be talking about the news, what we've been playing, and our radio style items in getting lucky and going wild. And then we're gonna do your listener mail, okay?

SPEAKER_04 2:02

That sounds pretty good.

SPEAKER_02 2:03

Now, look, this time we're gonna try really hard not to be because the first few minutes has been really shit. So we're gonna try we'll try really hard not to be as shit as usual. Right like and I am looking at you when I'm saying that. You know that that those two incidents just then were annoying and bad to listen to, which are sort of like the two things that are bad.

SPEAKER_04 2:24

Is it sort of the three strikes and I'm out? Because uh to be fair, like you could say I've three strikes and you were out, you'd be out already. I've lowered the bar, so it can only go up from here, so that's good.

SPEAKER_02 2:34

The bar is currently on Australia, yeah, but it remains there, that's the problem. We can't you could we people say that, but you can either go up or stay as shit as you always were, and I think that's what we're gonna do, especially if your input is to be anything to go by.

SPEAKER_04 2:47

That's not really my strategy, but you know.

SPEAKER_02 2:50

And uh speaking of idiots, let's talk about the Patreon, right? Because um, you know, if you do pledge on Patreon, you've got to be some sort of mental.

SPEAKER_04 2:59

Um I don't know, man. But unless we're a show for the people, you know.

SPEAKER_02 3:04

For about eight people, yeah. But look, if but that said, if you do pledge at five pounds or above, you're clearly not an idiot.

SPEAKER_04 3:13

No, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 3:14

Because you're a c because you are contributing to the best show in this room. Uh and Kate has gone and done that. Uh she pledges at the playable character tier on Patreon, which is five pounds or more, which makes her what the the greatest person who ever lived, I would say. Exactly. And if you want to be like that, patreon.com forward slash lucky and wild. Shall we do the show?

SPEAKER_04 3:35

It was a good day when you know I found out. It was a you know a good feeling. Um it's good to know that people enjoy what we're doing, you know. Putting yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:44

Not not many people, no, but but some people too. Solid amounts. It's solid, right? It's unmoving. Um, right, uh, let's do some feedback.

SPEAKER_00 3:56

What are you saying? Saying, saying.

SPEAKER_02 3:59

So uh Carti comes in. Last time we spoke about uh non-challenging games in the mail section, and we spoke about how on Stardew is just you always succeed, there's no friction, it's uh and uh and that makes it dull for us. Carti says, could not agree more with that Stardew Valley take, by the way.

SPEAKER_04 4:16

Oh, oh, that's it.

SPEAKER_02 4:17

Clearly a man of culture.

SPEAKER_04 4:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:18

But Dr. Mumsen says you can lose. You can lose your loved ones and house. But if that's it, you know what I mean? Is that it? Because you could start a save of four houses.

SPEAKER_04 4:28

I mean, what the fuck is the it's it's very hard to do both of those things.

SPEAKER_02 4:32

It sounds like a bit of copium there, mate. If you like the game, that's fine. But like, seriously, it is just I don't know, it's uh it's it's dull. You don't do much. If you you can you lose your loved ones, yeah, sure. It's fun as but then those characters are so paper thin anyway, so who gives a shit?

SPEAKER_04 4:46

I guess it's kind of fun if you want to be like really creative with your farm and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 4:51

If you just want to like make more efficient ways of uh planting vegetables, maybe.

SPEAKER_04 4:56

Yeah, but then what do you do with the money you gain from plant more v lant more fucking vegetables, bruh? Yeah, I suppose.

SPEAKER_02 5:03

Yeah, Starju is bad. Uh Carti, you are correct, Dr. Munson. Uh look, I'm glad you enjoyed. If and and look, we we're only saying from our tastes we don't like that type of shit, right?

SPEAKER_04 5:13

Yeah, I I mean, you know, if you like a cozy game, it's quite uh with a bit of thought, then.

SPEAKER_02 5:18

Yeah, but yeah, but like cozy games for me on are um things that are familiar, comfortable, and have those sort of comforting routines in them. Gate games that are labelled as being Log Till Door, not something. No, but I I'd say probably Resident Evil and Dark Souls are my go-to.

SPEAKER_04 5:34

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:35

Because they've just got a familiar repetitive loop that is always rewarding, right? And like with games that brand themselves as cozy.

SPEAKER_04 5:42

I was gonna ask you that, yeah. What do you think of that?

SPEAKER_02 5:44

What do you think of Well, I think uh uh it's just that what is comforting to you is very personal, isn't it?

SPEAKER_04 5:52

Yeah, because those sort of cozy games that they label as cozy are very uncozy.

SPEAKER_02 5:56

And I think Stardew Valley is that for a lot of people, like they see it and think, oh, that looks comforting, but for me it's just mindless. And I and I feel like playing a Dark Souls game and just exploring. Okay, maybe the bosses aren't com like you know, they're not comforting, but I do like but I like the walking around finding new secrets, all of that shit. And I don't know, yeah. Stardew sucks. It's not cozy to be to be to be fair, the that's kind of the opposite of cozy to me because it feels like a waste of time. If I spent a day playing that, I would feel like less relaxed. I feel stressed.

SPEAKER_04 6:29

It's yeah, it's sort of a very work-based yeah, yeah, that's that's exactly it.

SPEAKER_02 6:34

Uh, that is it for feedback. Shall we do some news?

SPEAKER_04 6:36

Alright, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:43

Dead or alive six releases with 321 DLCs.

SPEAKER_04 6:48

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:49

Now listen, we were hyped for this. The trailer looked good. But what did I take? Oh, well, wait, no, no talking.

SPEAKER_04 6:55

No, it's just agreeable.

SPEAKER_02 6:56

Move away from your mic slightly, just speak up and say, I was a bit itchy. Well, yeah, well, yeah, I was just a bit itchy. What do they need to know? Well, don't say that. Um, I was just telling you, but this podcast is so incompetent. Uh but like anyway, let me just because I was I was disagreeing with you.

SPEAKER_04 7:10

I uh we're both well excited, innit?

SPEAKER_02 7:12

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, go on, you say something about it.

SPEAKER_04 7:14

No, I was just like No, I'm talking over you.

SPEAKER_02 7:16

See?

SPEAKER_04 7:16

What? No, you just agree with you, so I thought, yeah, we were you know, I was excited, man. You know, you were excited, you know, we we were just we were excited, yeah. We were gonna buy we were gonna buy it day one, you know.

SPEAKER_02 7:29

We were um and actually to be fair, what did I say at the time? Uh I was gonna say before you interrupted me. When we saw the trailer, what did I say? Anyone can make a trailer look good, right? Yeah, you can make it you could make a good trailer for a for a mediocre game quite easily, and that's what they did. I mean, they promised it was gonna be like the definitive edition. To me, definitive edition comes with all the shit, right? That's what it should be, anyway. Um, and in this particular case it didn't. Uh probably a good game, but uh it launched and obviously Team Ninja dropped that trailer that we really liked the look of. But uh, yeah, we both thought that this one would contain all the characters that and uh you know maybe the costumes, although fair enough if they didn't include those, but sort of not fair enough. But anyway, the game launched, as I said, with 321 DLCs, and the big problem with this is that uh I wouldn't mind if it was all cos you know I still wouldn't mind a bit, but if it was all cosmetic stuff, it would be I might have still bought it. But 28 of the 321 DLCs are characters who you cannot unlock in the game, all of whom cost £6. So that would be what would it be? £180 to unlock all of them?

SPEAKER_04 8:38

Well, so you have to individual I mean it's the same problem as DLA6 though, like the original version of DLA6.

SPEAKER_02 8:45

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so yeah, it would be yeah, so if you want to spend £180 on a game just to get all the characters, this is for you.

SPEAKER_04 8:52

I mean I don't over time I probably would have, you know, but I don't know like over time it oh yeah, but you're not even gonna play it to begin with.

SPEAKER_02 8:59

So over time no, you would not have.

SPEAKER_04 9:01

On in a fighting game, like generally, you know.

SPEAKER_02 9:04

Yeah, because like with Street Fighter 6, I never bought the packs, I just bought what characters interested me at the time. But then realistically, if I wanted to buy all the packs of the characters, it wouldn't cost 180 quid. Still would be quite a lot though, to be fair.

SPEAKER_03 9:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:17

It's just shit. It's shit that this is the way fighting games are now. We used to just unlock them in the game. Uh but now you don't. Even with Street Fighter 4, which had online modes, that that you you unlocked them all in the game, but nowadays we've got 321 DLCs. Um so surprising absolutely fucking nobody, the game's gonna just die, isn't it?

SPEAKER_04 9:35

It will, yeah. I mean, they could have injected a lot of life back into the game, but uh that that was probably their intention, but it's but unfortunately they killed it with uh meaningless DLC and stripping away content from the game.

SPEAKER_02 9:48

That is not the final edition, that's not the definitive edition, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_04 9:52

Do you reckon Itagaki's rolling in his grave?

SPEAKER_02 9:55

Uh yes, with Jiggle Physics.

SPEAKER_03 9:58

Yeah, yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_02 9:59

Fanmade Ocarina of Time project shuts down after ten years of development. So a developer called Kryzen has spent the last ten years remaking Ocarina of Time from scratch. And following the announcement of Nintendo's second remake of Ocarina of Time for the Switch 2, he stopped working on it. And just an aside here, people are like, oh an Ocarina of Time remake. They did it. They did it already, it was on the 3DS, it was quite good. But it had all the same problems that the original did. Yeah, so very empty areas in that game.

SPEAKER_04 10:31

So maybe a full remake is necessary, but you can't Yeah, but they're not gonna fix it. No, they're not, because uh also Link's Awakening was not fixed, and you know.

SPEAKER_02 10:40

Yeah, but they get it's still it's just still gonna feel dated. I can I can guarantee you that. So if you it that they did already remake it, it was on the 3DS, um just letting everyone know that. But anyway, so this fanmake fanmade remake. Now I've seen this posted everywhere about this guy shutting down his project after 10 years, and it's not exactly what it seems. If you do a bit of digging, you'll realize there's a bit more to this. So Krizen was not driven by pure passion, people paid him on Patreon to continue development on his remake of Ocarina of Time. Um so he's making money off of this. In exchange, he would allow people to play early builds, so you had to pay him to play the versions of the game.

SPEAKER_04 11:18

Oh yeah, I mean, if he wants to really get into it and make like spend a lot more time making it, then I guess he's gonna need to get some compensation for it, innit? Maybe just work a part-time job and just do that for for a while, innit?

SPEAKER_02 11:32

Well, uh that that's sort of putting it in a very charitable way, because I I actually believe there's a bit more to this. So, um, because interestingly, right, everyone who played the builds reported them playing like absolute shit, even 10 years in. And you saw the videos, right? It looked good in the videos, but this is him not really stress testing it like a real player would. He's playing it exactly as you would expect, and so the things he's coded are working, right?

SPEAKER_04 11:57

And making it look like a competent game.

SPEAKER_02 11:59

Exactly. Um, he also imported in extra characters and shit for high rollers on his Patreon. So, like, you could have Star Fox in the game if if you paid over a certain amount, you could have Captain Falcon, like shit like this.

SPEAKER_03 12:11

Yeah, that'd be good.

SPEAKER_02 12:12

Um now his Patreon has been going for ten years, but like ten years, right? It's probably all the all all the work in terms of like uh ideation is already done for him, right? He just he's remaking the game. How has it taken him ten years?

SPEAKER_04 12:27

It's not, it's not really, uh to be honest. There's probably large parts of it where he wasn't doing anything.

SPEAKER_02 12:33

That too, but what but let's let's be honest, right? Why wasn't it finished? It's because he made a living off of it off his Patreon, right? Yeah, people were paying him to continue development, so uh now he doesn't share on his Patreon how much he was making, but according to some fans, he was working on it all day, every day, so it should have been done by now, right? And even he even sold the models and areas from his remakes as asset packs too. And let's be honest, if he finishes the game, then the money stops coming in. Um because he can't charge for the actual finished game. He can charge on Patreon and just say, I'm a game developer, pay me for whatever.

SPEAKER_04 13:07

Maybe you should just remake Majora's Mask and just carry on, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 13:11

I mean, you know then he can still make loaf fists fulls of cash, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 13:14

Uh do you reckon Nintendo would probably be angry if they found out that it's making money off of their property, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:21

Well, this is it. And other uh other people were saying that he shut down his Patreon because he was scared now. They're actually re-releasing Ocarina of Time. He was scared that they would come after him, uh which is fair, but yeah, he had a vested interest in not finishing the project and would just work nebulously on it for ten years.

SPEAKER_04 13:38

So which is the better well, I wonder which would be the better one as well, as tough the both fly.

SPEAKER_02 13:44

Probably the Nintendo one, I'd imagine. Yeah, just people say this one was like buggy as shit. Anyway, somehow he managed to avoid detection from Nintendo all this time, but uh of course with the impending remake, he shut down Shop for good. And uh yeah, um, but the especially the fact that he was charging for his work, right? If he was just making making it for free, he'd probably still get the cease and desist around now, but it's probably best that he did it, especially with how bad Nintendo have been recently, with trying to ruin people's lives when they try to make Nintendo stuff more playable.

SPEAKER_04 14:15

They've really been like trying to make examples out of people for uh like emulating Star Fox and the snares or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 14:23

Spang outers though, mate. You can't do that. You cannot that's a crime. Emulation is a crime. I will not condone it. Um, Sonic the Hedgehog ARG trains AI on your data. So earlier this week, Sega revealed the Chaos Hunt alternative reality game. Now I neither know nor care what this game is about, but to put it briefly, you get to decipher various things to hunt for chaos emeralds.

SPEAKER_04 14:46

So like sounds a bit shit, man.

SPEAKER_02 14:48

It does sound a bit shit, like all Sonic games, really. But uh so some neck out. So some neckbeard virgins, I mean Sonic fans, dug around the website.

SPEAKER_03 14:56

I'm a Sonic fan.

SPEAKER_02 14:57

Virgin. Uh dug around the website and found that when you confirm that you want to join quote unquote join the hunt, it opens a text box where you have to enter your data. And at the bottom, in small print, it says, Uh-oh, that pesky robotnik wants to use your data to train our proprietary AI models. Do you consent?

SPEAKER_04 15:15

Okay, yeah. I don't trust Robotnik, first of all.

SPEAKER_02 15:19

Never trust him. He's a bad guy. We know that. Um, but no, it doesn't really say that, but it it it does ask you to consent to train with using your data, basically, train their AIs. So that's cool. Now, this literally isn't an interesting news story because it's about Sonic. However, it is funny, right? That Sonic has always been a pro-nature anti-technology series.

SPEAKER_03 15:42

Yeah, right, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:44

And now it's it's uh being used to train Sega AI using your data. I think that is a very it's quite sad. I mean maybe like re Robotnik has become real and is now working at Sega.

SPEAKER_04 15:55

Yeah, I mean that would be cool.

SPEAKER_02 15:57

That would explain everything, right?

SPEAKER_04 15:58

Uh it would, yeah, because he he does like to control things, but I mean uh a lot a shame on Sega, really, to be honest, you know.

SPEAKER_02 16:05

Well, it's been downhill for them. I mean, like the creator of Sonic is in jail or something now, isn't he, for doing uh what was it? Uh insider trading.

SPEAKER_03 16:13

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:14

Um, and you know, Yu Suzuki is never gonna finish Sashenmu. Now Sega's trying to train their AI. I mean, it's just it's mad. It's Sega's Sega's not what it used to be virtually it wasn't ever really much, but it's it's it's not what it used to be.

SPEAKER_04 16:27

What's he talking about? What's he talking about?

SPEAKER_02 16:29

Mega Drive, rubbish. Dreamcast, rubbish. Sega Saturn, rubbish.

SPEAKER_04 16:33

What are you sat what are you talking about?

SPEAKER_02 16:35

No, I'm just joking. They're all good consoles, but uh no, but Sega has always been playing catch up a little bit, and uh now it's the same thing. I mean I mean it's still the same thing.

SPEAKER_04 16:44

When were they when were they playing catch up?

SPEAKER_02 16:46

Well, when they were released a console that was not as good as the Super Nintendo.

SPEAKER_04 16:50

Yeah, but they were still releasing like really good arcade games and that at the time, and it's like what what's a good game on the on a Genesis? Well, on the Mega Drive.

SPEAKER_02 16:59

Yeah, what's one good game?

SPEAKER_04 17:00

One good game, uh Streets of Rage out of it.

SPEAKER_02 17:03

No, not uh taking Streets of Rage out of it. What's one good game?

SPEAKER_04 17:06

Sonic 3 and Narcox.

SPEAKER_02 17:08

You did name a Sonic game, and as we know, they're not good.

SPEAKER_04 17:11

They are great.

SPEAKER_02 17:12

They're not good. Steam Machine Prices and Spec are released. So the Steam Machine, or the Gabe Cube, as it's become known, is releasing Dynamite Heady. Is releasing with the first batch of consoles being sent on the 29th of June. So rather than Comic Zone. So rather than release loads of consoles to the world as is tradition, Valve are doing it in waves. So it's more like a continuous process of Streets of Rage 1.

SPEAKER_04 17:39

Great game.

SPEAKER_02 17:40

Um of reservations and batches being sent out. Valve says they did this to prevent scalpers from hoovering them up. But let's talk about the spec, right? Sean, and I'll read this out and you tell me if you know what any of this means, right? So we've got semi-custom AMD Zen46012 T up to 48 GHz 30 W T DP. So the uh it's got one of those in there.

SPEAKER_04 18:02

So the uh for the steam machine.

SPEAKER_02 18:04

No, it's for the sandwich.

SPEAKER_04 18:06

Okay, yeah. Right, we're talking about the stuff. What did you think it was good? What yeah, because like um you were saying about the Gabe cube, I was just making sure that it was like like we're talking about these.

SPEAKER_02 18:15

Yeah, so when I so when earlier when I started the new story and I was saying Steam Machine and GabeCube and Steam Machine and that.

SPEAKER_04 18:20

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That should have been your first hint, right? We were talking about just the Gabe Cube's powers, isn't it? As opposed to like comparing the GabeCube, Steam Deck, PS5.

SPEAKER_02 18:31

So when I said all right, so when I said let's talk about the spec.

SPEAKER_04 18:34

Alright, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:35

And I mentioned previously I said Steam Machine several times. Well, you thought I was talking about the PS5. No, I didn't make sense.

SPEAKER_04 18:42

I thought we were gonna be comparing some things, you know, but alright.

SPEAKER_02 18:45

Right, so I said let's talk about the spec. I was referring to the Steam Machine, the subject of the conversation.

SPEAKER_04 18:50

Alright, let's d let's jump in. Alright.

SPEAKER_02 18:52

Well, I'm not gonna say it again. Let's just move on to the Steam card.

SPEAKER_04 18:54

Is that the graphics card?

SPEAKER_02 18:56

No. Uh let's just move on to the graphics card. So that is a semi-custom AMD RTNA 32CU 2.5 GHz sustained clock. If you thought it was not going to be sustained, if it was a regular one, you are mistaken. But it has got elect but it has got 110 W T DP, 8GB GGDR6. So you are you as excited for the 110W as I am?

SPEAKER_04 19:23

Well, basically what I will say uh is that it's probably a bit more powerful than a PS5.

SPEAKER_02 19:31

Wrong. Um I don't know what any of this means. I'm being I'm gonna be honest with you.

SPEAKER_04 19:36

But no, but I just heard word on the street, you know.

SPEAKER_02 19:40

But people are saying that it is PS4 Pro level. Um now I don't claim to know what semi-custom and I IMDR DNA means, but what I do know is that people who know what they're talking about have said that it's PS4 Pro, right? I don't know if that's true, right? But it but that's what the word on the the actual street is, not just stuff you've made up in your head.

SPEAKER_04 20:02

No on Sesame Street, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:04

That's where you learn everything, isn't it? And um, you know, PS4 Pro is not bad, that's a good machine, yeah. That's a decent machine, but um but but but it's all right, but it is last gen.

SPEAKER_04 20:14

Yeah, I mean you'd want it to compete with a PS5, really, to be honest. A bit well actually probably like blow it out of the water, if anything.

SPEAKER_02 20:21

Maybe something like that. And for the price, well bear in mind it is a console, not a PC, but for the price, it may not actually be worth it because the prices are frankly outrageous. Now, just to confirm, Sean, we are talking about the Steam Deck price here, not the price of a Game Boy or something. Steam Deck. Steam Machine Fuck. Alright, fair enough. You got me. Right, so the 512 gigabyte model, how much do you reckon? That's 512 gigabytes. That is uh half half a terabyte. That's that's messed up. Yeah, I'll be right back. But how how much how much GBP we talking on that bad boy?

SPEAKER_04 20:55

Uh like probably like 900 quid, sadly.

SPEAKER_02 20:58

879.

SPEAKER_04 20:59

It's messed up.

SPEAKER_02 21:00

Now bear in mind, what if you want a Steam Machine 512 gigabyte and a steam controller? If it was like three oh so that one doesn't even come with a controller. They're just assuming you're gonna have an Xbox controller lying around.

SPEAKER_04 21:11

I mean Which we all do. Most of us do, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:14

Gone in with the controller?

SPEAKER_04 21:16

Um thousand fifty.

SPEAKER_02 21:20

Close, 938. Now let's just go to the top end. Say you want two terabytes, which is basically a normal amount of storage nowadays. That's normal, right? And a steam controller, we're talking £1,208. No.

unknown 21:33

Uh uh.

SPEAKER_02 21:34

£1,200. You could build a gaming PC if you were careful about it and source the parts from disparate sources. You could probably build a better gaming PC for that amount, couldn't you?

SPEAKER_04 21:43

And if you like knew a guy who could build 'em. Or if you learned yourself. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's easy nowadays.

SPEAKER_02 21:48

Yeah, yeah. So, you know.

SPEAKER_04 21:50

Um but like imagine I think if the Steam Machine launched at uh I don't know, the same price the Steam Deck was when it released. That would be probably the best. This is probably worth what it's worth.

SPEAKER_02 22:03

That would never happen. If it was five hundred, I think that would be fair. Yeah, all right. I think that'd be absolutely yeah, alright. I'll take one. I'll take ten. I I think but I think that would be fair, wouldn't it? Yeah, I think that would be.

SPEAKER_04 22:15

I I agree, yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_02 22:16

I mean, it's it's gutting to be honest with you, because I I was looking forward to this.

SPEAKER_04 22:21

Yeah, same.

SPEAKER_02 22:22

And if it was an affordable price, I would have got one. My wife wanted to get back into gaming, she wants to play play games with us, and it's like um, but she's more of a console person. But like nowadays it's like I don't know if I'd want a PS5 because it just feels a bit more limited than PC gaming, especially with the slow releases that you get on Switch 2, PS5, all of this shit.

SPEAKER_04 22:44

Um, but it just feels very restricted, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:48

And and the Steam Machine, I think, was something that I was looking forward to because it's I don't want a top top end with it, but I wanted something mildly competitive, like a downgrade for the convenience, you know what I mean? Yeah at a reasonable price. Yeah, exactly. Um, and you know, we we're at the point now with the industry where there's gonna become a point where all of us are just gonna go, well, we can't afford new hardware. And I think there would there was a recent thing where it was a leak, and I don't know how true this is, but apparently developers have been being told, yeah, there's like a mode on uh PS5, which is like um I don't know what you call it, not not performance, but uh yeah, it would be performance over beauty, right? Yeah, and it's sort of an inbuilt mode for developers where it's like performance mode where you can sort of downgrade everything and make your game run better, right? Like for developers, I'm putting that terribly, but you get what I mean. Um apparently Sony have been quietly sort of telling developers maybe develop your games on performance mode because of the uh huge uh performance of the Switch 2 and for um handhelds that are like less powerful than PCs and modern consoles, right? Um Sony are going around telling people when PS6 is coming out, it's gonna be uh it's gonna be a little bit of a downgrade, so maybe uh think about that. Apparently they've been telling people this.

SPEAKER_03 24:07

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:08

Right? So the the chances are PS6 will be a hybrid console like the Steam Deck that has worse spec than the PS5 because top spec things are now too expensive for people to afford. That's a rumour I've heard. I don't know if it's true.

SPEAKER_04 24:22

Um but Val's about right though, really.

SPEAKER_02 24:24

But this is like even Valve was saying this isn't the price point we wanted to release at, and and if it people are going to be priced out, then uh developers are going to have to develop for existing hardware, and even hardware manufacturers are going to have to make things using existing hardware, right? Or old components because it's getting too it's getting silly. It is, yeah, just because of to get the optimal experience, not uh like you you're having to spend 1200 quid on a console.

SPEAKER_04 24:50

That's insane. I mean, we like we definitely bought our PCs at the right time just before all this happened.

SPEAKER_02 24:56

Right before. I mean, it's crazy. We're so lucky, yeah. But yeah, I mean, I I'm I'm literally like then and apparently there's like uh with a lot of components they're now locked in price-wise for the next five years, so that's it. Stick with what you got, everyone. Uh uh, because you nobody can afford consoles anymore.

SPEAKER_04 25:14

No, no, sadly not. Sadly not. I've got my PC and my Steam Deck though, so that's you know, that'll do me for about five years.

SPEAKER_02 25:21

Yeah, hopefully. But but you would have upgraded it within the next five years, maybe, if not for the prices of shit.

SPEAKER_04 25:28

Yeah, I mean I'm just sticking with what I got. I think so. I probably would have upgraded in about five years, but I'll probably, you know, I'll probably see what's see if I mean if it starts making really loud noises, I might have to.

SPEAKER_02 25:40

Doesn't that worry the shit out of you though? That now if one of your devices broke, how are you gonna afford to repair it?

SPEAKER_04 25:46

I don't know, like yeah, it'll be it'd be a good one.

SPEAKER_02 25:50

Exactly. Um Fat Man hosts Valorant Pub. So everyone knows Big John. He's he's a YouTuber famous for for killing himself slowly with food. Um he does shorts where he will order a ridiculous amount of takeaway, and you don't really see him eat it, but the evidence is clear. You look at the man, yeah, that is a normal order for him.

SPEAKER_04 26:12

You know, um, yeah. He loves the nail, he loves the Chinese. Um, also uh he's uh like he's also famous for doing his favourite Chinese order, like really quick, like he can just remember the whole thing.

SPEAKER_02 26:27

Chicken Chow Main, pork chow main, chicken spicy balls. I can't even do it, but he'll just he'll list it off so far as he's so used to ordering Chinese, and he'll just he'll just get his order, he'll pick it up, and he'll go bush. That's it, that's his whole thing.

SPEAKER_04 26:39

Yeah, that's it, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:40

But for some fucking reason, Valorant decided for the uh Valorant World Finals or some shit recently that they were going to open a sort of pop-up Valorant themed pub and that Big John would host the event. I doubt he plays or even knows what Valorant is, but um yeah, he was there announcing the matches, like and announcing a new map that was added to the game, presumably saying Bush as he was doing it.

SPEAKER_04 27:05

Yeah, quite a lot, I reckon.

SPEAKER_02 27:06

Um three party two mash jelly deals.

SPEAKER_04 27:08

Yeah, he was uh you know, he's from East London. I mean, if you think of East London, you like unfortunately you might think of him say, you know, they were deep in East London. I don't think it was the world finals of Valorant like it, but it because it was in some.

SPEAKER_02 27:22

But that's quite a big event. It must have been for something.

SPEAKER_04 27:24

It was it would have been, yeah, because they did have a new character revealed and a new map reveal. I mean, I wanted to go just like we did, but we missed it by two days.

SPEAKER_02 27:32

I just wanted to go just to see what it was like, just because I wanted to see like what is his involvement going to be in that because that's mental. Yeah, like why him? I guess like when you think of British bloke, that's who you think of. Big fat guy, fell fellow who too who uh drinks too much lager and uh eats too much takeaway, right? Yeah, I mean that he he is pretty British, so they just thought, well, who's the British most British person we know? It's him. Let's do a Valorant pub with him hosting it. But I like I would want him like pulling the points and like handing out snacks and that and saying Bosch and that.

SPEAKER_03 28:05

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:06

But I doubt it would have been I think he would just would have been in a green room and occasionally come out and be like, it's team solo mid versus I don't know, cloud nine.

SPEAKER_04 28:13

Bosh. Do you reckon uh he might play Valorant night of here?

SPEAKER_02 28:17

Have you seen the size of him?

SPEAKER_04 28:19

Oh, I suppose.

SPEAKER_02 28:19

If he does play Valorant, he can't he cannot play it well. Moving his arm across the desk to move the mouse must must be like a workout for him. Yeah, there's probably a lot in the and look, we're not we're not fattist, he is.

unknown 28:30

Hey!

SPEAKER_02 28:31

Let's go. Come on, that's a good joke.

SPEAKER_04 28:33

Um yeah, that was good. Thank you. Right. Um, but um, yeah, so I mean, yeah, I mean it would it would have been good to go and see Big John doing his thing, which is like I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 28:43

I'd just like to see him list foods. Like Bosch and lists listing foods and that. He's my look, he's got an easy career for himself. Yeah, he eats food. He's he's gonna die the way he he wanted to, yeah, and not on the field of Valorant because he couldn't play it, he'd have a heart attack. Um, right, uh that is it for the news. You got any more news? You contributed much into this, or have you letting me do all the work as usual?

SPEAKER_04 29:05

Um I haven't got a lot, uh any news, but uh the DIA one I gave to. You did, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:11

You were yeah, he did send me on WhatsApp, but I had to type up all the notes.

SPEAKER_04 29:14

And like a couple of others, but it's alright, it's alright.

SPEAKER_02 29:17

Well, whatever. But anyway, let's do let's do whatever. Let's get on with what we've been playing.

unknown 29:24

What's your game?

SPEAKER_01 29:32

What's your game?

SPEAKER_02 29:34

Alright, so next month we've got uh VS Fighting. We're gonna be competing in Guilty Gear, um, Grand Blue Fantasy Versus and Street Fighter 2 Turbo.

SPEAKER_04 29:43

Yeah, man, uh we are. Although, like, you haven't really like played any Grand Blue at all.

SPEAKER_02 29:47

So I played it boy. I played that game boy. When I'm looking forward to Guilty Gear, and as a result, I've been really practicing it very a lot. Um you know, I've been playing with the people at uni, and this is this is uh uh sort of the main focus for this time, I guess, because something happened, ladies and gentlemen. I won a tournament. Didn't I?

SPEAKER_04 30:14

Yeah, you did.

SPEAKER_02 30:14

That's all we need to say on the matter. I won a tournament.

SPEAKER_04 30:17

Well you like sort of won a tournament of people like you I mean, was it a tournament I mean, is it a tournament, like yeah, it was a tournament.

SPEAKER_02 30:24

It was it there was a tournament bracket, I went into the tournament, I won it. Should we leave that story there?

SPEAKER_04 30:30

Um but is it not like a sort of I don't know, like invite like Mike Tyson to I don't know, like you know, just get it.

SPEAKER_02 30:37

So I'm like Mike Tyson of Guilty Gear, that's nice man. That's that's very kind of you to say. Um look, all that matters about this particular story is that um you know you won some matches. I won some matches, I won a tournament. I am now a champion of something. Now, to be fair, only about three people in that room had actually played the game. But is that my fault?

SPEAKER_04 30:58

No, it's their fault really because their fault for not showing up earlier. The game did exist for a long time before that, so now but here's the funny thing, right?

SPEAKER_02 31:06

Right, I I I sort of went into that tournament expecting to win, and I don't mean is that your phone making that noise?

SPEAKER_04 31:12

Oh sorry, I'm supposed to.

SPEAKER_02 31:16

Oh, that's coming from out there. But anyway, I did enter the tournament sort of half expecting to win. Now, I was it was a tournament organiser half expecting. Well, because there are two other players in the tournament who are actually genuinely very good, right? Um, my mate Tommy and my mate Matt, and they both entered the tournament as well. Now, Tommy's probably the best player at our uni aside from me, right? Um, the tournament organiser put me against uh Tommy in the first round so that it wouldn't just be everyone getting smashed by the both of us. But it had the opposite effect because what happened is we did double elimination. I beat Tommy, I then went through murking everyone on winners bracket, Tommy went to losers bracket and went through murking everyone on losers bracket. So the very thing that the organiser was trying to not trying to avoid happened because um me and Tommy ended up in the final, the two best players were in the final, but you know, I guess that's how it should have been. What was funny though was that uh our friend Matt, he's a really, really good player, but he sort of choked a bit on the day. Oh, yeah. He got murks by somebody who'd never played the game before, just spamming projectiles with uh Unica.

SPEAKER_04 32:23

It happens the best of us to be honest. It does.

SPEAKER_02 32:26

I choke like nobody's business, that's a fact. But what was funny was is that I've never seen him so angry. He's usually quite calm, languid sort of guy, but he he he he turned around, he's like, It was on this much health, bro!

SPEAKER_04 32:37

And he was like so angry. Yeah, the pressure and the excitement there, you know.

SPEAKER_02 32:41

But that guy who beat him using only the projectiles was like, I figured it out, I'm just gonna press spam this one move. And then I went up against him, and the tournament organiser was like, uh, it was our tutor Scott, but he was like, Um, right, Harrison, don't pick your main. We want this to be entertaining. So I picked ABA instead, and I fucking destroyed that guy. And it was so funny because they were like, You cannot pick your main, but I was like, I know all of the characters a little bit, and I'm fairly certain I could beat people that have never played the game before, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 33:10

Well, else are you gonna do? You just like probably like not show up or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 33:14

Yeah, exactly. But um what the most interesting thing about this, well, the most interesting thing is that I'm I'm now a champion. Like I won the tournament, I'm a Guilwood Gear champion, that's a fact, right?

SPEAKER_04 33:22

I suppose you won a tournament.

SPEAKER_02 33:24

I won a tour just don't take this away from me, man. I won a tournament. I win tournaments. Tournament.

SPEAKER_04 33:30

Do you win yeah, you do.

SPEAKER_02 33:32

I mean you I win tournament.

SPEAKER_04 33:34

Yeah, yeah, just but um no, what was interesting about this To be fair, like you could sort of say that to Lyle Birmingham to like to intimidate people.

SPEAKER_02 33:42

Alright, mate, uh nice to meet you, bloke chan's tournament winner. Um, yeah, Guildford champion. Actually, I'll probably not, but look, because right, let's just talk about one thing, right? We've been going to a little tournament in Guildford quite a lot. Well, bad by the way. No, I'm not no well, no, not that one. No, not that one. No, not that one. Not not that uh the other one. A very, very different one. Oh, yeah, on the other side of town. Um, yeah, like the other side of town. But like, let's just uh for example, let's just say there's there's tournament organiser uh organizers out there that do it for a hobby once a month. That that um a living really. Yeah, making a living off it, really, taking a lot of money from people, baby. And um Imagine if you're what happens, let's just say what happens at those tournaments if you're making uh little loads of moolah, you'd expect it to move along quite nicely, wouldn't you?

SPEAKER_04 34:33

Well uh if there's like a queue of like uh about 50 people giving you like festivals of cash.

SPEAKER_02 34:39

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So uh that's a that's at least a tenant from everybody, you'd expect it to move along quite nicely, wouldn't you? And we're not naming any names, we're not saying which tournament it is.

SPEAKER_04 34:49

Yeah, but you're paying for a service, I guess. But uh You're paying for a service. Would you no, but when you get there. Do you know what? If I did it for the first time, I would not be very good, though.

SPEAKER_02 34:57

No, no, you wouldn't, you wouldn't, would you, if you did it for the first time. But what about if the fifth uh what we are on now? Sixteenth time? No, it's not that tournament, it's a different one. But sixteenth time, would you expect it to run smoothly? Not just smoothly, not smoothly, but all right, right? How long would you expect to wait between games?

SPEAKER_04 35:13

Um, well, not like an hour or two.

SPEAKER_02 35:16

Not an hour or two. Three hours? No, no, not that. That would be mental, wouldn't it? Especially if you if you were charging for it, that would be mental. Well, and you had several staff members, you had several people helping out as well, unpaid, obviously, because the cash is all for you, isn't it? But the thing is, is that you you you would think you would think you keep games moving along a fair whack. And look, listen, listen, here's a little tip. If you're organising a tournament, right? Actually, we went to we went so we went to the skilly gear tournament at uni, right? Yeah, you've got uh like 20 young people entering a tournament. Sounds bad. Yeah, yeah, or could go, could go very badly, right? Yeah, exactly. And not only that, some of them are off playing fucking Mario Kart and guitar hero.

SPEAKER_04 35:55

Well nah. So here's what here's what Scott didn't go and like went to a screech and halt and you had to wait two hours or something.

SPEAKER_02 36:01

No, no, because there's actually a really easy easy solution. And shout out to Scott who organised it because he did a really fucking good job, right? And what he did is he just went, he he saw somebody playing Mario Kart off in the corner doing fuck all and it was the time for his match, and he'd just he would just stand up and go, You sort of say their name. Let's say, for example, his name was George. He'd just go, George, it's time for your match, stop playing that, come over here. Oh yeah, that's all it takes. Yeah, and and do you know what? We were never waiting for there, was always a game being played on the TV.

SPEAKER_04 36:29

Seems difficult, no.

SPEAKER_02 36:30

Never waited once. And this guy, well, he was being paid to be there, to be fair, but uh, but he actually put the work in.

SPEAKER_04 36:37

Technically, I mean the the tournament was free though.

SPEAKER_02 36:40

I mean tournament was free for us to enter, but but the tutor who organised it was being paid to be there.

SPEAKER_04 36:45

Yeah, but he was already being paid, he was just doing a nice thing for the people.

SPEAKER_02 36:48

That's true, that's true. Gave up his time now. So so it is right, now let's just say, for example, I just want to say that that was really well run and shout out to Scott. But look, now let's let's think about those other tournaments we were talking about earlier. When you're waiting for your game, what do you expect to see the tournament organiser doing? Organising, maybe.

SPEAKER_04 37:07

Well, I don't know, just like sitting there, just sitting there staring up vacantly into the distance.

SPEAKER_02 37:13

No, but he is running the stream. So Oh yeah, that's right. No, no, no, but but it's weird's not on. No, it's not yet, is it? Because it's uh because it only runs during the final.

SPEAKER_04 37:24

Regrettably, aren't it?

SPEAKER_02 37:25

Yeah, and and you know the funny it's weird as well because if you look up. Fake universe. R um but it's funny because if you look over there and you see nothing happening on the stream, what's he doing? What's he doing? Sort it out. Um but yeah, just just just to say that it is it's actually advice for tournaments. It's actually fucking easy to run a tournament. It's not, it's not, but no, no, but to get people to come and play their fucking games is not hard. Um and you can keep it running. I d I'm not asking for the smoothest possible fucking experience, right? Like like when we when we played at VS Fighting, for example, we're not naming what tournament we're talking about, but when we played at VS Fighting, for example, you're not uh you're waiting what? Once once pools start and your pool is announced, what are you waiting? 10, 15 minutes, 20 minutes? There were times where I really wanted to go for a cigarette, but I couldn't because we knew it would be soon because they keep things running. It doesn't have to be as smooth as the one we played at uni, but it g but just slightly smoother.

SPEAKER_04 38:26

No, I th I've South Battle Opera might like for the most part was smooth, but there were parts where it like stopped for a bit then, but then everyone worked it out together.

SPEAKER_02 38:36

Once they worked it out, things just ran smoothly. Yeah, South Battle Opera was really good. If you want to go to a tournament and you live in the Portsmouth area, fucking excellent. If you want to go to Guildford, uh um you could go to um I don't know where you go, really. Yeah, that's a tough one. Uh well we'll come back to that later. Maybe we'll have some some suggestions later. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If we remember any good tournaments that are run well, we'll we'll come back to that.

SPEAKER_04 39:02

Yeah, yeah, we'll do that.

SPEAKER_02 39:03

Uh yeah, God, racking my brain. Um, right, let's get on to our individual games. Sean, I played Fatal Fury City of the Wolves.

SPEAKER_04 39:19

Oh yeah, you're telling me you said you were keeping it a secret, man. What's what's going on, man?

SPEAKER_02 39:24

So fucking um, right, look, we we were down a pug the other day, listeners, and we were chatting about the the fact that Guilty Gear is the best of the uh fighting games out there at the moment that are played, right? That's just a fact. Just really. But if you most people aren't playing their favourite fighting game as their main fighting game at the moment because they need to play one that has players, and our favourite is Fatal Fury City of the Wolves. Now, that we spoke about on episode one of this how there are still cunts out there going, Oh, but I can get games no problem, and all of this pollux, and it's like you look at the steam numbers, it's it's mostly sub a hundred players at this moment, right? So I'm like, they are lying.

SPEAKER_04 40:04

There's a couple, there's probably a hundred or like a couple of hundred maybe at peak times, but peak time's probably about half an hour, I'd say.

SPEAKER_02 40:12

It is about that, yeah. Now, now this is it. I just wanted to to just test it out because we were saying, look, if we could consistently get games, that's what we'd be playing.

SPEAKER_04 40:21

Definitely.

SPEAKER_02 40:22

I logged on to it, I consistently got games. Okay, but I have a suspicion. I think you know the the amount of Saudi money that has been put behind this, right? Yeah, and they're desperate to keep it going. So I think the people that say they're getting games, they aren't lying. But I think there's bots. I 100% think there's bots on the online mode.

SPEAKER_04 40:44

Well, I think. I was playing ranked, Sean. You know, you're an expert, so I'd say I'm not an expert. Well, you've I'll play it. You you went to a regional yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:53

Oh, right, right, right, right. Yeah, you are fatal fighting. I thought you meant on-game development.

SPEAKER_04 40:56

So could you tell that the they're fighting bot like this that was it?

SPEAKER_02 41:00

It was it was partly it was partly that, and it was the you know, during like uh basically when you're doing in the footsees slash neutral stage, you will notice that players uh will do the thing where they sort of shuffle around and wait for an opportunity, wait for you and and CPUs never ever do that, right? No, they do that. And I noticed of the 10 to 20 matches I played, that was it. It was sort of like you know where they they're always doing something, yeah, always doing something. It's like that's CPU behaviour, and then all of the names of the people that I saw were like tarnished tarnished Greg. Yeah, things like that, but it was it was like all Western names, like uh tarnished Greg, Angry John, um like like fighting Greg. Okay, like and I was like, this is weird because they're not playing in a human-like manner, and I'm getting games consistently. And I just had the Steam charts on the other screen, and I was like, it says there's 25 people online. How am I like especially when you get to higher ranks in that game, right? And I can't remember what I am in like uh the equivalent to platinum last time we played, right? When you get to higher ranks, the player count is even less. So how am I getting games? Well, I'm waiting two, three seconds for a game. No, yeah, and that the the queues are longer, not much longer, but longer than that, even on Street Fighter 6.

SPEAKER_04 42:20

I mean, I'm always sort of tuned into the uh the fighting game news, so I sort of know that people aren't playing it.

SPEAKER_02 42:26

They absolutely aren't.

SPEAKER_04 42:27

I mean I mean only the uh only the pros play it really. Just just because um like again, because of the Saudi money.

SPEAKER_02 42:35

And even they don't play it in ranked, they play in specific groups and training and coaches and stuff like this. It's like uh yeah, so I think I now I hope I'm wrong about that, but I think it's I think they've put bots into ranked modes.

SPEAKER_04 42:48

I think you're probably right.

SPEAKER_02 42:50

Um Sean, do you want to go do one of your games?

SPEAKER_04 42:52

Well, you can do your your your last one if you.

SPEAKER_02 42:55

Oh I've got two, but I'll do You just do yours and I'll do minor. Alright, I'll do Resident Evil 4 remake. No, I can keep this one brief. This is the second time I played it. I am trying to train in Guilty Gear for VS fighting this year, but uh I got really unwell recently because my wife made cookies with eggs that were expired and didn't tell me.

SPEAKER_04 43:22

Yeah, she poisoned you a bit.

SPEAKER_02 43:23

She poisoned me a bit, yeah. So that's nice. So I thought what I'd do is I'd play something familiar, comfortable. I've played the original Resident Evil 4 about 20 million times. Originally, when I played the remake, I bounced off it and didn't finish it, so I just thought I'll sit down and finish it and then collect my actual thoughts about it. Um if you like the original Resident Evil 4 but a bit shitter, that that's what this is. The trouble is Capcom have been on an absolute roll with their remakes, right? The the three remake and two remake understood what was special about those games and uh brought that to the forefront while fixing some of the things that made those games a bit shit, right?

SPEAKER_04 43:59

Yeah, they Did they did they did it really well as well? Um you know, I mean they're not like my favourite games or anything. They're my favourite games, um like anymore. But they used to be to be honest, they are my favourite games. I think they like that they did a good job.

SPEAKER_02 44:13

But if I did a good job, I meant they did good jobs, but I think Resident Evil 4, the original. If somebody told me that was their favourite game of all time, I'd be like, fair enough, good pick. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 44:27

Yeah, I loved it back in the day.

SPEAKER_02 44:29

But every everyone says the original holds up, so that it didn't really need a remake.

SPEAKER_04 44:35

The the original slight gussy, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 44:37

Yeah, I don't know, but like I'll just say play the original version that's on Steam. You can play it at 1080p, it still looks nice. Okay, yeah, it's still it still plays really fucking well. And and to be honest, like the only thing in remake that uh is quote unquote fixed is the controls. Yeah, all the rest of it, there's certain things controls are already sort of better than the other the previous entries people cannot fathom that there was a time when non-standardized controls led to more fun in games, right? People just think that you have to have a standardized control method for games that have shooting in them, and you don't. Resident Evil 4, okay, it's still used tank controls, but the game was made with those in mind, right? As a result, this remake, when you're playing um with the new modernized controls, you know that first bit in the village where you're besieged by all those people until the until the bell rings, right?

SPEAKER_03 45:29

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:30

One of the most tense and brilliant segments in a game ever. A perfect section, right? And it was made with the tank controls in mind to the point where I played this on hardcore, right? I played the remake on hardcore because it said for experienced Resident Evil fans, right? If you play it, actually says if you played the original, play it on hardcore. It was a breeze. The first bit of the game, it's like because it was wasn't made with those controls in mind, you're just mowing people down like a mad cunt.

SPEAKER_04 45:59

And then go workshop and like what for what reason? Like just to get it better difficulty.

SPEAKER_02 46:05

Yeah, I'm sure there are mods like that. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:07

Maybe just chuck in a couple of dinosaurs as well.

SPEAKER_02 46:10

Do get some Dino Crisis action up in there. But yeah, I mean, so so it's weird because but the game does eventually get somewhat difficult towards the end when you have all the gear, but it's sort of the opposite curve that a Resident Evil usually has. You usually start out weak as shit, panicking all the time, and you end the game feeling like a fucking mercenary or something. And the Resident Evil 4 remake sort of has the opposite problem because of the controls and uh for many other reasons. But overall, like as well, like they took some of the campiness out of it. There's still a bit, but they took a fair bit out, and I think overall the game they've it's good. It's like still like a I don't know, an 8 out of 10, but it's just like but it left me feeling a bit empty and uninspired, where every time I've completed the original, I've gone fucking hell. That was absolutely brilliant, and is is one of the best games. And this one's just sort of a bit more bland.

SPEAKER_04 47:01

Yeah, well, Resident Evil.

SPEAKER_02 47:02

The old controls are great, especially on a fucking GameCube controller.

SPEAKER_04 47:07

Yeah, yeah, definitely. I mean, um, yeah, the GameCube, I mean was I mean, to be fair, I don't know if Yeah, because Resident Evil 4 was probably the only one where I was like, they probably probably don't need a remake of this. I mean, two was probably the best one, but and the most needed, I think. I mean I completed the original two, but yeah, they did need a remake.

SPEAKER_02 47:28

I think the fixed camera angles aren't necessarily a problem. Tank controls and fixed camera angles are a problem, in my opinion. Yeah, that's true. And when they did the Resident Evil 1 remake, I felt like that was just fixed by having the directional base controls. It did lead to some goofiness when you go through one room to another, but it was fine. Yeah, yeah, but but I d I don't know, it wasn't that bad.

SPEAKER_04 47:53

No, it's fine. You can get used to it.

SPEAKER_02 47:55

I mean, yeah. And the game still felt difficult in my opinion. But yeah, I just felt like uh the look, two two uh had some problems because it did have the tank controls and and all of this uh and the the the uh fixed camera angles. Same goes for Code Veronica, so I'm excited for that remake, but Resident Evil 4 remake is it's just it's a bit shit. And they took out that segment where all those zombies are driving that truck down a bridge, and it's just like I know they're not zombies by the way, let's know, but anyway, yeah, so um mid I'd say. Oh, here's here's one thing I just wanted to mention about the game, right? Is that um the upgrade system. You know, in the original you could just like buy a gun, and then when you had enough money, you could just upgrade it. Well they've locked certain uh upgrades behind uh doing missions, right? Missions. Missions, right?

SPEAKER_04 48:48

You're on a mission already.

SPEAKER_02 48:49

You're on a bit the more the important mission, saving the president's door, right? Now here's the thing: in the remake, you'll go around the villages and you'll see little notices posted around. Can you help me clear out some rats from the basement? Oh, okay. And you go and do them and you get rewards for that. Um and so certain unlocks are like locked behind that.

SPEAKER_04 49:11

But what if I don't want to do like Auntie Nora's washing up or well here's here's the thing.

SPEAKER_02 49:16

A, the washing up is a problem. Bitch, does keep piling up. Like in the original, where, for example, my favourite gun in the game is the red nine, right? I would buy it, I'd upgrade it, I'd buy the little stock so I could aim better with it, which is less useful in this version because of the change controls. But that means there was an upgrade that was previously you had to buy money for that's now locked behind this stupid fucking uh quest system, right?

SPEAKER_04 49:40

Uh okay, like get five francs or something.

SPEAKER_02 49:42

Yeah, that type of shit, right? And I'm like, well, first of all, um that's dumb and it fucks the game's entire economy. So by the end of the game, money is useless. Also, you you would have bought everything that you can buy with money, you would have bought it by the end of the game.

SPEAKER_04 49:57

But also the game's very linear, so I don't really want to be like like running about and that backtracking through areas that you were part of a linear story, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:06

And not only that, who's posting these quests? Everyone in the village is a mentor.

SPEAKER_04 50:12

I suppose, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:13

Because the the only sane people in the entire place you interact with.

SPEAKER_04 50:17

Oh, yeah, I was gonna say like, what about the salesman? And they've made him worse as well.

SPEAKER_02 50:23

He's like a bit of a well, he probably I don't know, but like he doesn't say what are you buying? He doesn't say it. But like there are certain It's unplayable. Yeah, it's unplayable. I heard him say it like once, where you but here it would just be like greeting, stranger, and all of this. The guy who does the voice does it with a hundred percent less character than the than the old guy did, and he doesn't even say the line. Say the fucking line. It's what we and and also like I'm thinking he's the one that posted the missions, though he's the only one that could that is implied in the thing, but he is travelling around this whole village unscathed, right? He's got more capability of doing the missions than Leon, Ada, fucking Ashley or Luis has.

SPEAKER_04 51:05

Well, saying it's how it's just constantly carrying your shit about, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:09

He's carrying ten rocket launchers and everywhere, and he manages to get around this village quicker than you do because he's always there when you get to the next place.

SPEAKER_04 51:16

Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:17

Look, it's uh that but that's what I'm talking about. It's those little campy elements that they tried to make a bit more modernised and serious. And there's like the they've they've written like witty one-liners for Leon, but the person has no talent at doing it, and they were cringe before, but they're even more cringe now because they're sort of they're not fully committing to the bit. And there's a point where um, for example, like you know when Ashley was on a high ledge in the old one, right? And you would have to catch her.

SPEAKER_04 51:43

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:43

And um, like here's an example of one of the witty one-liners, right? You don't have to do that anymore. After a while, she would just jump down by herself, right? And there's a point where uh I just walked off and was exploring, thinking I'll go and catch her in a minute. She jumps down and she goes, Leon, you can't leave me behind like that anymore. And he goes, What are you, my mom?

SPEAKER_04 52:03

Oh damn. It's like what is that? Like, it's nothing-that doesn't even mean anything.

SPEAKER_02 52:07

It doesn't mean anything, it's stupid, and the whole game-that's the only example I can think of. But like, do you see? I mean, like, it's it was still functionally a very fun game to play, but it was just a lot of the character was missing, and it's like it didn't need fixing, unfortunately. If they'd have just gussied up and just put it exactly how it was, that would have been fine.

SPEAKER_04 52:26

Yeah, it would have been. Like, yeah, I think so.

SPEAKER_02 52:28

But that is it. The only other thing I played was a demo for a game called Slay Blade. Um, but uh I'll I'll save that. I'll s I'll save that for next time.

SPEAKER_00 52:44

I'm gonna blow up just like many planes in World War I. I'm gonna blow up like the toilet when I drop a poo.

SPEAKER_02 52:52

Sean, you mentioned in the pub the other day you've got a surprise game.

SPEAKER_04 52:55

Yeah, I have. Annoyingly, though, like it was gonna be well sick as well, because like I brought it up on the first episode of the podcast. Um unfortunately now, like uh it's all like you got me into a new hobby and that. So I spent all my money on the like this hobby.

SPEAKER_02 53:12

And now before we get into that, and we will, but uh yeah, I I I was there. Um but he said to me in the pub the other night listeners, he was like, I've got a surprise game, man. No, like it's gonna be fucking amazing. So gone, what is it?

SPEAKER_04 53:25

So I'm only messing around, but I I did actually have it, uh, but I don't have the game. What um because I spent all my money on Bayblade.

SPEAKER_02 53:35

Right, so you what do you mean I did actually have it but I don't have the game? What does that mean? It doesn't mean anything.

SPEAKER_04 53:40

Well I wanted to and then we spent our money on Beyblade. Well, that's not right, right, but look, what what's game adjacent adjacent what it what was it? Uh well it finally went on sale, man. What was it? Uh Bald Baldur's Gate 3. Uh Did you buy it? No. Oh, because you buy it.

SPEAKER_02 54:00

I would have been so hyped for you to play that, man. Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_04 54:03

So that's an all-time fucking game. It's also like sort of like part of uh our backstory and that, so you know What because we used to play D. No, no, because um, you know, I've been we I've been we've been waiting for me to play it since it came out, and like it's never gone on sale, you know. I know I talk we talked about on the first episode. Yeah, you've got to play it, man.

SPEAKER_02 54:26

You have to, it's an all-timer game. You would absolutely love it.

SPEAKER_04 54:29

I do want to.

SPEAKER_02 54:30

I've never s swam. I've never swam. I've never swam through 90 hours of game that that that quickly as I have with that game. Like I fucking loved it. Um you would love it. That is a shame that you did spend all your money on Beyblades, but it's it's not all it's also not a shame. It's also not a shame because Beyblades are fucking cool. Um, yeah, should we talk about it's not really a computer game though, is it? We can't talk about Beyblades. No, but that's for our other podcasts.

SPEAKER_04 54:56

It's video no, but you're talking about new podcasts.

SPEAKER_02 54:59

I know, I am, but we've got so many podcasts on the fire that did so well, and now we're doing this one that nobody likes.

SPEAKER_04 55:06

Everyone likes it, man.

SPEAKER_02 55:07

Um everyone who listens. Shout out to you three. Um listen. No, but um Yes, Sean said actually said the other day, so we do yeah, we got into Beyblades, right? And uh Sean, Sean, uh, I I just said uh we should do a new Beyblade podcast. And Sean's Sean actually replied, I was wondering how long it would take you for you to suggest that. But you came up right, and this is maybe a reason that we should do the Beyblade podcast. Uh you came up with a great name for it, Hasbro's.

SPEAKER_04 55:34

Yeah, it's a good name. Um it is a good name.

SPEAKER_02 55:37

It's better than my suggestion of let it pod or whatever it was.

SPEAKER_04 55:40

Um this will be our anchor pod. No, I'm not doing a beyblade. We're doing a Beyblade podcast, bruh! Yes, let's go. Um, but yeah, I spent like quite a long time sort of like building theory crafting, crafting your Beyblade deck.

SPEAKER_02 55:53

Yeah, yeah. I fucking I love this shit, man. I I I've been I've been just reading into it and like doing the same thing of like coming up with new new ideas for my deck and stuff. It's it's fucking it's cool as shit, man. Yeah, they are children's toys. But I was telling Sean, listener, that basically Hasbro and uh Takara Tomi did basically this marketing push where they wanted adults to play Beyblades because they saw the direction, say, for example, Pokemon cards were going into, uh collecting Transformers, like adults are now doing the hobbies they did when they were kids, and they sort of thought we'll cash in on this. So, what they did is they did a Beyblade tournament with a prize that only an adult can use: a car. A guy won a car playing Beyblades, it became you know uh global news, and now everyone's fucking playing it, including us. Yeah, and it's a hell of a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_04 56:46

There's a big scene in the UK.

SPEAKER_02 56:47

Now we we're going to a tournament on the 18th. But the funny thing is, I don't know why, but both of us felt like we couldn't take our video game names over, especially because yours is Pendemon Danklin. And I was like, this we are the tournament we're going to is adults only.

SPEAKER_04 57:02

Yeah, it is, yeah, seniors, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:04

But seniors. Uh but uh I just thought it's a kid's hobby. I don't know if they'll let you in if you have a drug reference on your name. So what did you go for in the end?

SPEAKER_04 57:13

Uh spinochy.

SPEAKER_02 57:15

Uh which is also I like it's a reference to a pizza that you once ate.

SPEAKER_04 57:19

Yeah, yeah, spinocoli pizza and I.

SPEAKER_02 57:21

Because it was spinach or broccoli.

SPEAKER_04 57:22

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:23

Because you wanted spin in the name. Now I went, I I had a lot of them. Uh, what was it? Spin diesel, spinderella. Um there were loads that I went through. Uh decided that my name would be Warlock Holmes.

SPEAKER_04 57:36

Yeah, that is good. That is good. Although we I do wish I went with like with either Mugger T or Penjamin Danklin, but I do like spinocchy as well.

SPEAKER_02 57:44

Spinocchy is so bad. It's so bad. But um, yeah, so Beyblades, they're cool.

SPEAKER_04 57:50

They are cool, but yeah, that's basically why I didn't play Baldur's Gate, but I will get to that.

SPEAKER_02 57:55

Well, that is excellent. This is why this is how shit the podcast is, right? You finally had a bit of cash to play a really, really good AAA. Well, not triple A, but like a really, really good big fucking release. And I would have loved to have hear your thoughts on it, but we have been smashing spinning bits of plastic together.

SPEAKER_04 58:12

Um, well, there's that, but also I was moving. Um, but now I'm sort of getting back into things. I I've sort of been like if we sort of jump back, we jumped back into um guilty gear the other day, is where I've sort of started gaming again. So I'd like you just have been busy.

SPEAKER_02 58:26

Yeah, yeah. But that's it. That's it. If even if you had Baldur's Gate on your Steam account right now, yeah, would you be playing that? Or would you be practicing your launching techniques for uh the 18th?

SPEAKER_04 58:37

Well, that and VS Fight's coming up, so it's like it's a bit tricky. So maybe I will I'll to be fair, like before the next podcast, I will buy it.

SPEAKER_02 58:46

Do you want to tell people about your Beyblade deck? Because you you went a Sean went a bit ham. We did get you got a customisation pack. No, we can't talk about this. This is for the Beyblade podcast. You got a customization pack, you've got a stadium, you've got three Beyblades. Yeah, I've got three blades, and then loads of extra parts. So, what are you going for? Was sure what's your main attack one on that bad boy?

SPEAKER_04 59:04

Uh it's the uh Phoenix.

SPEAKER_02 59:07

So Phoenix, yeah, yeah. And what sort of launcher you rocking? See, this is this is this is like you know, in a uh a sitcom where they do a soft pilot for something else like that. This is what we're doing now. So, yeah, what launcher you got on that bad boy? Uh string launcher. String launcher, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 59:22

So no, we're not advertising other.

SPEAKER_02 59:24

It's not you. Sean, how much fun are you having talking about bait blades right now? Um let's go, let's sack this shit off. Let's do that. Um, but I'm like having So string launcher, where are you finding it in comparison to uh winder launcher?

SPEAKER_04 59:35

Uh quite stringy, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 59:37

No, it's really good because it's sort of well you can get a lot of speed, but you have to put less effort in. I mean, that is one of the great things about it.

SPEAKER_04 59:44

But for often, well you can put more effort in.

SPEAKER_02 59:46

But also, if you do have a strong arm, a winder launcher is going to be better. Yeah, I'll go to the gym. Did you see? No, but we I showed Sean an image. There was an Indonesian tournament. Did you see the size of the cunt that won? Well, oh yeah, it was massive, wasn't it? You d like physical strength because you could launch them faster. The people are we've seen some professionals, they train in the gym just pulling, like pulling away. I was wondering This guy had the biggest arms I've ever fucking seen.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:11

Also it's sort of related to to gaming as well. Like I did sort of wonder when you'd all go to the gym and that.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:17

Me?

SPEAKER_04 1:00:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:18

When would I go to the gym?

SPEAKER_04 1:00:20

Well, like the bay blades might convince you to get finally go to the gym.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:24

Just to practice yeah, just to train my launching arm. Um but I have successfully got you to uh what's your stamina one you got on that on your in your deck? Oh no, but what if the competition listen to this, Sean? They're gonna be fucking they're gonna know. They're gonna be scared, uh. Why are you looking in there? None of yours are in there. That's mine. No, but that's Jesse's one.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:43

I was just looking at the bits.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:45

I even got my wife into playing it. We're um we're doing a we're doing a little that's a good one, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sean's looking in right now. That's uh Sting that's Sting Unicorn. Got a 60F ratchet on there, and of course, we've got a uh sort of balance bit. Um very nice.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:59

We've got gone far too deep into this.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:02

Yeah, it's been silly. We've been up like right, right, we've got to stop it now. Um we've got to stop the chatter.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:07

That's basically why I haven't played Baldur's Gate, but I did um also get another game I was interested in, and we talked about because I wanted to Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:15

I sincerely, if honestly, mate, look, I uh as I'm glad I can't wait to hear what you've got to say. If it is Worms Crazy Golf, we are gonna move on. But it's not it's not gonna be that, is it? Because that would be a mental thing for you to have played.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:26

I've played it, it's good. It's actually really fun. Oh, alright. So I just wanted to actually talk about it, because you talked for like an hour about your game, so we're gonna Alright.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:43

I had I've played a lot, it's been a long month. I'll cut I'll probably cut some of that out anyway. Um whatever. Look, you shut up. You tell me about Worms Crazy Golf.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:52

Okay, it is actually really good because it sort of combines you know the the I mean it's hard to describe, but um the sort of satisfyingness of worms mixed with golf is actually really good. I mean, to be fair, like um it's actually a really fun golf game, to be honest.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:11

So it's a 2D golf game.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:13

Yeah, yeah, 2D golf game. You got like the rough and stuff like that. You can um it it's quite fun because I've just been playing through the campaign and there's some like good courses.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:23

Yes, so you play golf and it's worms and that. Oh look, I'm trying to sound enthusiastic. Right, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:29

That sounds great to always when I have to No, it's just it I tell you, it's just I was actually genuinely surprised by this game, though, to be honest.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:37

Okay, well look, tell me more. It's just do you know what I would love if you told me I was playing a 2D golf game, I'd be well excited. Genuinely. You know how much I love golf games, it's just the worms attachment.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:49

What's wrong with worms though?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:50

It's alright, but you know, you can only have so much worms.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:54

I've I mean it's one of my favourite series is ever, like to be honest.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:57

Right, just tell me about the game, but uh never mention never mention a worm.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:01

No, it's a very good golf game, to be honest. Yeah, I don't know, we'll just move on. No, no, but look, you've got stuff to say about it.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:10

I want to hear it. Yeah, go on then. So so so what does it look like? Do you have grenades and that?

SPEAKER_04 1:03:15

Um, no, well, you you have a lot of um I don't know, like it was really cool because you could like uh you go through holes and stuff in the campaign. Um you can unlock clubs and hats and stuff like that for your worm.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:29

Um but you can like yeah uh so presumably the manner in which you shoot the balls is like how you shoot or hit the balls, is how you shoot a gun in worms.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:38

Yeah, yeah, combined with uh golf game where you've got like the meter that goes up. Um so I imagine it's like a really fun sort of multiplayer thing, sort of chilled-out multiplayer thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:49

I just I wish I was still enthusiastic about worms because I would love to play a 2D golf game.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:54

It's really good, but I mean I yeah, you should be enthusiastic about worms.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:58

Very good, but it's just how it's had its time. Let's move on.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:01

Yeah, it's not people still making maps for it, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:05

You know, yeah, but this this most recent iteration is is probably my least favourite. Worms WMD. Worms Algeddon is where it peaked. We should have stopped there.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:14

No worms are okay. Why don't we play Worms Algeddon on Steam? Um, we can, but it's like there's cut content, and it's censored a bit.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:22

Oh, is it a bad one?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:23

No, it's good, it's good, but it's yeah, not the best.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:25

Yeah, I'm looking at this, it looks alright.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:27

Um, the it's actually really good. Like it took me about three holes to get into, and then Michael got an eagle, and I was like, Yeah, that's really satisfying, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:35

And you've got like rough, you got hang on, I've seen there's there's like an exploded worm. I'm looking at a trailer for it now.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:41

Yeah, those are like obstacles, in it.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:42

Okay, so you you can deform the environment and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:45

Yeah, yeah, which is also cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:47

Like that is cool to be fair. I do like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:49

Yeah, it looks alright. There's quite a few uh courses as well. It's got it's got flash game vibes a little bit. Um I thought that How much was this? I thought that uh a pound.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:59

Alright, well, that explains that.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:01

Yeah, it's theme sale. Um it was it was seven pounds, but it's a pound. I'd say it's well worth it. If you look at it like uh the screenshots and stuff, I think actually playing it is like simple graphics but quite vibrant, so yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:17

Okay, look, I tell you what.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:19

Also, like good customisation, voice banks, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:22

Like you make your own voice banks and put father Ted quotes in there.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:26

Sadly, no workshop the only thing like they sh I mean you'd love it to be uh to be fair, it is it is fun. I mean we'll play it.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:34

For a pound, I will buy worms crazy golf.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:37

Yeah, yeah. I mean you'll you'll enjoy it. Um just like yeah, I mean forget that it's worms. No, because worms is great, but stop saying that 'cause then otherwise I won't be able to forget that it's worms. It's just good, just remember that it's worms, if anything. And uh I don't want to remember worms. Enjoy it, enjoy it. No, it's really good. I'd recommend it to anyone to be honest.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:56

That reminds me, speaking of games nobody gives a shit about from twenty years ago. Um Um I'd do. Team Buddies is coming to Steam with online multiplayer.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:05

Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:06

I'm sort of saying it for the listeners.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:07

Yeah, that's great, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:09

It is great. Um right. I'll get Worms Crazy Golf, but if it's rubbish, you have to give me one of your Beyblades.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:15

I think you'll like it, but just give it a bit of time.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:16

But we can't speak about Beyblades.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:18

Just give it a bit of time to be fair.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:20

Alright, I will. I will. I will get it for a pound. Why not?

SPEAKER_04 1:06:23

You'll enjoy it. Um and to be fair, I do enjoy it. And also to add, sorry, to add. Like they've got in the campaign, they've got like challenges that are really fun as well. Like um, there's one where it's not just going into a hole, you'll get like a challenge, like one where I had to like destroy four sheep in one hit with a shot, and then you have to keep doing that over bits of the level and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:46

Yeah, I did notice in the gameplay footage there's like sort of col collecting coins and like challenge elements to the game as well.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:52

I've um yeah, I mean, that's all like you could you could do that if you wanted to, but you don't have to. I've been just going for good poll scores, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:02

Fair enough. Yeah. Look, it does sound good to be fair.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:05

It's it's it's just the only worms game I've missed. If it was just a thousand seven mobile game, the Java game.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:12

If it was just called Crazy Golf and it was a pound, I'd be like, yeah, no, I wouldn't.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:18

Why would you buy a game called Crazy Golf?

SPEAKER_02 1:07:21

I'd actually be more inclined just to pay something without the worms. I'd pay two pounds for that. Anyway, uh but uh I actually I've been playing a golf game recently as well. I played uh Twisted Metal Golf. Is that a real game?

SPEAKER_04 1:07:36

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:36

What's the one on VR? I can't even remember. Walk about mini golf. It's alright. No, it's really good actually.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:43

Have you actually? Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:45

Yeah, Katie lent me uh VR headset, so I've been playing that and um and super hot. Um I I I I did something silly though, man. Like I've when they got their VR headset, they were they were telling me that um all those videos of people running into shit fake, but I did it. I ran into shit. I was playing super hot and then uh I got a bit too into it, and I was trying to leg it. There's this really long bar on one of the levels, and I was trying to leg it and hold the guns like sideways like that, and uh smashed head first into my table. Like an idiot. I got took I got too too engrossed, man. It took over, yeah. Yeah, it really hurt. It really hurt.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:23

Yeah, I can't believe it. Uh alright.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:25

So you've been playing anything other than Worms Crazy Golf?

SPEAKER_04 1:08:28

Yeah, I've been playing Grand Blue. Uh also like um I have been playing Guilty Giver, we already mentioned that. And um like how to run a tournament well and that. But um I did I have been playing um because I wanted to bring this up as well. I've been playing Grand Blue Fantasy versus Rising uh online. Um how's that going?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:48

Yeah, I mean what rank are you now?

SPEAKER_04 1:08:49

Uh I don't know where I was when I was last playing, but I was just like jumping on No, I was with Meg, I was like S or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:57

But I can't yeah Oh yeah, I forgot it's letters, isn't it? So the right the last time we played this, right? Now Grand Blue, for those that don't remember from our previous episodes, it's a it's a very um simplified fighting game in so far as you don't have motion inputs, they're optional. Um all of the buttons all of your optional buttons are on a cooldown, all of your moves are on a cooldown. But um yeah, we made a few discoveries recently, didn't we, on that game? Um and this is why when you asked earlier.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:29

I think it's the only only one discovery, to be honest.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:32

Um well the the playing with a traditional controller, you're at an advantage over an arcade stick.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:38

Oh that, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:40

Yeah, you are because you do you have access to one button supers. Now, if you do the input, uh ladies and gentlemen, if you do the motion input instead of pressing the single button, you get it off for more damage and a slightly reduced cooldown. But the benefit of having one button supers, like you when we fought on it last time, and I I realised that like you can block, and while in block stun, just mash the two buttons you need to press to do um you can do, but if you think about it, you if you're desperate for like a defence mechanism, that's really good.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:11

But otherwise, you know, there is a lot more, a lot more damage if you combo into it.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:17

It's not it's not a lot more, but it is more, yeah, you're right. And comboing it on uh uh comboing into it is the ideal way to go. But the only trouble is is how many out of the probably hundreds of games you've played online, how many have been won when you've been uh on low health, but you're starting to make a comeback, you're just trouncing them, you're destroying them, you've got them in the corner, and then bam, super comes out, you lose.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:40

Yeah, quite a lot, quite a lot, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:43

Like I'm still comeback.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:44

I mean, uh, you know Yeah, it's a bit of an issue.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:47

Yeah, it is. I mean, I'm still enjoying the game, but I don't think I'll play it after this fighting.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:53

Oh that it's just those little revelations just sort of annoyed me. Put me off a bit. Yeah, put me off a bit because it was like that is that is something that you can't really mitigate, but is is fucking annoying. And I believe that maybe uh the game would be to almost entirely fixed if they just had traditional motion inputs just for supers. Just for supers, just do a half circle. That's it, nothing crazy, just a half circle, that would be fine.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:19

Yeah, I don't mind the like trade-off because you know, like yeah, I mean I don't know, but like the trade-off seems fine, but that was just one little hitch that made me hate the fucking game because that works a little bit like a comeback mechanic, yeah, yeah. And I hate those. I suppose, but everything else is working in its favour, you know. You got like you got those yeah, that hard sort of hit I can't you know. You know, like the diamonds.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:47

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do know what you mean. Uh it's the counter mechanic, and then you can also use them to power up some of your things. Yeah, yeah. That's quite good, actually. All of it's quite good. But the unfortunate thing is there's just a few little things I noticed. Like when we fought the other day, I was using a new controller that I wasn't used to. And you know, usually when you do that, like because I I just switched to using an Xbox pad.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:07

Yeah, you're a bit you're usually out of yeah, I don't know. But wasn't didn't my skill go up? It's a baffling experience, usually.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:14

But yeah, yeah Yeah, because usually you'll be shit for at least an hour, right? Definitely, and I was just literally like the the there was it was night and day, wasn't it? Like I'm a good player, but it was like there was a skill went up. It was stupid. It was stupid. Sean was like, when do I get to do anything? And shit like this, and I'm like, Yeah, I don't know. I like playing fighting games without comeback mechanics, and I like playing them on cool controllers, and and and that's a bit gutting. It's it's a shame because um I'm good at grand blue as well, so it's like You are, and when we were playing the other night, you it's sure Sean said I might just be like the best arcade controller player, maybe. Because it's like you cannot compete with people that are using a normal controller. Even those guys uh at um what was that uh uh tournament in Guildford? I can't remember really badly what run. But anyway, even guys at certain tournaments that we won't mention by name, um, who are amazing on levelless controllers, if they switched, they could be world class by now.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:12

They would be uh they're they're actually putting more effort in. You know, they are the better players of certain tournaments, um and they sort of are engineered to win all the time.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:23

Yeah, yeah, I mean it's we it's weird, isn't it? Because like, you know, in like um big tournaments, uh like really big ones, like let's say Evo, right? They would never put the best players against each other because they want uh in the first round because they don't want the best players to be knocked out because when it comes to the streamed portion, uh you want the best players paying the best players, right? Which is fair enough. Yeah, yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:44

Fair enough, right? That's fair.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:47

Don't do it at a local tournament in Guildford.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:50

Why is how is it how is it possible that not once, not once how many views like hypothetically with a tournament like I get if you know Well, A, they're not getting that many views, so don't even bother fucking doing that in the first place.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:03

Don't put your mates up against noobs, right? Second of all, how why is it in and if that's not happening, I'll be very, very surprised. But also, like you like have you ever just to prove my fucking point, have you ever got good luck at one of those tournaments with who you face up against? Have you ever never and how many have we played? Because we've often entered three, four tournaments at uh uh a day in those events.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:27

I think um last time you were entered against someone's shit because he saw you at um South Battle Opera and put you against someone shit. Yes, yeah. Or like someone who hadn't played much, actually. No, no, no, my specifically.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:42

My belief is that at South Battle Opera um uh he did random seeds. Yeah, he did. Which is what you should be doing at local shit, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:50

He did, he but he probably put you whoever this guy is.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:54

I mean he may not even exist, we don't even know.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:58

Uh do you reckon like at South Battle Opera you're playing Grand Blue, and then that's where he got faced against a beginner, which is probably a better way of putting it, actually.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:07

Yeah, possibly, I don't know. But the point is, is that I get why tournament organisers do that with the pros. You don't do it at local ones, just do random seed for the love of fucking god, so somebody can feel like they're actually making a fucking difference. It's all well and good to get like okay, I could train for months and months and months and try and get better than the best players there, but the reality is that I want to go and have a good time, and the truth of games like that is that some certain people outclass certain people. I still want to fight people roughly on my level and have a good fucking time. But unfortunately, it's just oh yeah, let's put this guy who all he does is play this game up against some noob so that he gets through to the fucking final. That's not fun if that but if that tournament, you know, we're not naming any names, we're not saying who it is, but but that's shit. Yeah. You're charging for that shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:53

That's a bit rubbish after waiting uh like a couple of hours.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:56

Wait a couple of hours. Oh uh Harrison, you you're going up against and and I'm look, I won't say who it is, but let's just shares a name with a character from a popular Disney film. Oh yeah, okay. Uh Woody.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:10

Yeah, yeah. Damn, I said his name. No, he won't. I said his name. No, he wouldn't.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:14

Ah, brilliant. Anyway, uh anything else to say on Grand Blue? Are you excited to put are you gonna play it after VS fighting?

unknown 1:16:22

Probably not.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:23

I mean, uh the only reason for that though is um, you know, we got like some really good fighting games coming out, like uh knockoff, knockoffs coming out.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:32

That looks good, the toy-based fighting game. Yeah, and uh Avatar as well.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:37

Or is that next year? Is that next year?

SPEAKER_02 1:16:38

Avatars this year, man. I think it's soon. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Can't wait for that.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:42

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:42

Being at Grand Blue when that one comes out.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:45

Um but I do like Grand Blue. Um I wish they they made another game like that. Like maybe Calcom should make Darkstalkers 4 finally, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:55

Yes. I just think that Grand Blue Fantasy Versus is very fun. But the unfortunate fact is it's systems are able to make shit players good with less commitment. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And that that's not what I'm into. And I'm not saying I'm a good player, like I I'm an okay player at all of these things, but um, it's taken me a lot of effort to become okay, right? Whereas Grand Blue, everyone sits down, they are, and and there are certain things that certain things that you learn how to do in that game that very easily that could take you months in another game. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 1:17:29

You just sort of notice it's a different set of people that play Grand Blue as well.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:34

Who perhaps wouldn't succeed at other one?

SPEAKER_04 1:17:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:38

Same goes for fucking Tekken 8 as well.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:41

Yeah, that too, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:42

Alright, well that is it for what we've been playing. Shall we take a break? Oh, uh just quickly before we go for the break, um, what you ran in as your uh what do you think of the uh difference between uh having a defence type or a balance type on a deck? What's your thoughts on that?

SPEAKER_04 1:17:58

Um well I mean I don't really want to get into that really. I mean I can't. You do what you do want to get into it, that's the problem. I do.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:06

I don't mind talking about Beyblades or anything, but um ladies and gentlemen, text texting, Lucky and Wild Podcast that you might. They definitely aren't, they're not they're not man children like we are, unfortunately. But do fucking play Beyblades, they're so much fun.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:24

Um it must be.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:28

And you know what part of it I like is like the designs of them, because they look like a fucking Lincoln Park album cover.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:33

Yeah, they are cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:34

Oh, I want to feel erase all the pain till it's gone. Erase all the pain till it's gone, Mike Shenoda, as opposed to erase all the pain until part of it is still left. Er sort of like sort of Sorry, I was just having a stab at Lincoln Park there. Right, so uh let's go for a break.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:51

Fucking fucking you, bloody. Fuck you, bloody bastard bitch. You, you, bloody fuck you! Bloody fucking mother bloody fuck bitch.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:05

Jordan and I are battling our body blades. They're smashing into each other. I've gone for a stamina type, he's gone for a defence. Oh, a big whack there from uh I forget what name of yours is, but uh a bit a huge whack. I'm stickling him, I'm stuck. And I've won. Stamina. Oh no, that wasn't a defence, that was an attack. Well, your no, your one. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he went for the uh what is it ha I forget what that one's fucking called, but yeah. Went for a uh strong attack type. Usually has to get one hit in to uh knock knock down the opponent, but I went for a stamina strong against attack types, as we know. Would you listen to a Beyblade podcast listeners? Because I'd rather be doing that, let's be honest. Uh right, good fight. Uh so Sean, your item.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:52

Lucky, yeah, lucky, yeah. Uh yeah, so uh I um sort of uh wanted to do like sort of pet peeves of gaming, like sort of mixed in with stories. Um so I know that sort of one of ours is uh, you know, in sort of normies mispronounced games, um we had like a funny one of that, whereas that King of Hearts.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:17

Yo, mate, that was rough. Uh yeah, I mean just to tell that strut story real real quick. Um there was a there was a guy that we know, and he he very quickly, after buying his house, got a girlfriend that was much younger than him.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:33

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:34

And uh it was a it was a little bit weird, like she's ten years younger than him. No problem with that, they're both adults.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:40

Apparently, uh they're both into exactly the same things.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:44

Yeah, and you can you know when you can just tell somebody's just agreeing? And this happened to our mate Katie, back away from your mic a little bit, but this happened to my mate Katie, where she was working with a girl and uh both of them sort of got on really well, and she was saying, Oh, I love games, this, that, and the other. And then when they finally came to hanging out, Katie was like, Do you want to play some games? And she was like, I'd never do that shit. I hate that shit. I just said it because I wanted to be your friend.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:07

At least she was honest at that point. Yeah, exactly. Did they continue the friendship?

SPEAKER_02 1:21:11

Yeah, yeah, they're still good mates, so it worked. Nice, but in this particular case, obviously, I don't know what she was after or why she did it, but she lied about being a gamer, and there's nothing wrong with not being a gamer, but it's just I think it's a very funny thing to lie about. And she like uh I know she plays like a couple of things, but she said she uh this guy's like a big gaming, like hardcore guy, and um she was saying things like she had a dedicated gaming PC, she was a streamer with a hundred thousand followers, um, and then whenever whenever games would come up, she'd very quickly change the conversation or just go onto her phone, and uh it was clear that all of her gaming knowledge came from her ex-boyfriend, Bathan, who we've mentioned on this podcast quite a lot, yeah, because it was all the games he liked, and she was like, You played that Kings of Hearts, that's a pretty good game, innit? And the other one was do you remember when she was at we were at the pub and she was like uh we were just chatting about games, like I don't know what it was, but then she just interjected, like, but have you played gods of war? I mean, because that's that's the best one, in it. And I was like, The best, the best one, like what do you mean? She's like, It's the best game.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:12

You could sort of see that it was uh hurting um the guy as well, because uh like he he It was like sorry, like being an absolute prick about it, to be honest.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:22

Yeah, he was Gods of War.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:23

No, I haven't heard of that one. Gods of war, yeah, yeah. I think you mean there's all way, yeah, there's all ways of doing it, and that was definitely the wrong way.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:32

Um because if it were me, I'd just wanna oh a god of war, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've played that one. Yeah, and then she'll be like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And then and then it would sort of be like, Yeah, oh yeah, but do you remember this bit and God? I I can't speak about it, but it'd be like the conversation was sort of like, Oh yeah, do you remember this bit, this character, what happened? Suddenly she goes quiet, and then like she'll interject later. If you play Diablo 2, though, that's the best one. The best what? This is the best game, isn't it? It's the best one, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:55

Um it was always sort of like that, really. Um I also um have a funny story because um, you know, people used to talk online a lot back in the day. Um, one of the worst things was uh people eating food. Um, so uh on one night on Halo, do you remember the time where um someone was eating crisps? So we all joined in and started eating crisps done. I like to try and annoy everyone. Yeah, but I used to there's just that mass down the mice.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:26

So annoying, so annoying. My wife did that once, and we we uh I just got into bed and I turned the light off, I was about to go to sleep, and she just jumped into bed like sort of cheeky went, I've got a snack. And then I was like, Alright, cool, uh try to go to sleep. She's eating an apple, the loudest of the snacks. Um I mean, but back in the day we used to sort of like to like winding people up on Xbox Live was sort of like a sport. No, it was, it was, but I mean I remember there was an old band I was in, I don't know if you can call it a band, but DJ Shit Bitches. Yeah, yeah. Some of the worst music ever produced, sort of intentionally. Um, we did a song called Super Hardcore that was uh had a tempo of 999, and uh it was incredibly funny, it was such a stupid thing, and um I remember just playing that down the mic to during Xbox Live Xbox Live sessions, and they had that rating thing um where you could rate players and of like how shit their communication was, and mine was like down to the bottom, day one of Xbox Live.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:25

Yeah, because people playing music in the background was annoying enough because it was all distorted and weird, but like you playing that down the mic must have been.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:33

I mean, it's one of the worst sounds ever produced. I'll play a bit of it right now. Um, yeah, that's super hardcore. Um gaming pet peeves. Uh do you know what? I I don't know if I really have that many. It's difficult to think of. Players that don't wash when they attend tournaments. Oh, definitely shit tournament organisers.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:55

Yeah, I hate those.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:57

Um I would say this is a hard question though, really. Because it's like little things that annoy you, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:25:06

Yeah, it is, it is. But sometimes it leads into like a story.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:10

Yeah, unfortunately, I think those are those are the stories, aren't they, for the old gaming pet peeves. How about this listeners? Send yours in for next time. We'll read them in the feedback. Because I'm sure there's some that will really wind me up that that like just aren't on our minds at the moment. And I tell you what, I tell you what, like, I don't know if this counts, but people that only play Triple E. Oh, yeah, I mean I mean that is probably most people, to be honest. Most people that play games probably only play the big releases, right? Yeah, yeah. Assassin's Creed, Grand Theft Auto. But it's just if they knew that there are games out there that would entertain even them with their with their like love of massive production values. Like, I would say anyone that's ever fucking played God of War would fucking love Claire Obscure Expedition 33, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:25:54

Or Elden Ring.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:55

Or Elden Ring, yeah, but I mean that is one of the big ones. I remember when Elden Ring came out, and I was I was shocked, man, because like Dark Souls was always like not niche, it's like very, very popular, but it was popular among a certain subject of subsect of the gaming like hobby of people that thought oh it's really it's difficult, uh you know, like those types of cunts. But Elden Ring, because of its this sort of upwards trajectory of Dark Souls, became popular beyond really what it should be, because typically, like, very, very challenging games don't tend to be that popular. I remember when it came out and I was in game going to buy it. It's probably the last time I ever physically bought a game. And there was and there was like one of these uh massive, like uh I don't want to say chavs, but like he but he was he was standing at the counter and I'm like, this guy looks like a GTA player, and I know I'm stereotyping here.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:47

You got the Elden Rings play.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:48

Yeah, that's what he actually he actually said something like that. He's he's like, I'm I need to get a like Elden uh what's it called in it? The Dark Souls thing. And then the guy at the guy's like Elden Ring, and he's like, Okay, well, we got the special edition for 150 quid. He's like, What does it what does it come with? And and the guy's like, Oh, it comes with this like helmet that and he's like, Brother, like, can I wear that in it? And I was just like, this guy's like the helmet, man. The helmet's too good for him. But that's what everyone said about the Master Chief one. I just thought it was kind of funny because it was like that the reach of that game is mad, but yeah. You send in your pet peeves, ladies and gentlemen. But yeah, people uh eating on the mic, people not being punctual when it comes to to playing online.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:26

That's the worst, yeah. Uh hanging about hanging around online might for like an hour.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:30

It is the it is the fucking worst. Yeah, looking at you, uni lot. Um, but uh, yeah, pet peeves. Anyway, let's go on to my item.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:43

It's hurting me, it's actually hurting me.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:45

Right. For this one, I kept it simple. Usually I do a little quiz or a little game we can play together. Now, we gotta have a discussion. The show's going bad. It's not the quality of it is low, the presentation bad. I went on earlier for an Hour on Chrono Cross and Resident Evil 4 remake. It's not entertaining. Good work. And I know that. I know I talk too much, but I've got thoughts.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:08

No, not at all. Listen. I don't mind.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:14

Just don't go on about it too much because I'm likely going to cut both of those. I'll cut at least Chrono Cross. Look, anyway, look, the point is we've got to discuss how are we going to save this show. Not to just keep going, man. Just keep going, hope for the best. Right. Hasn't worked for Rapid Reviews UK. So it's they're getting two two listens an episode.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:31

Yeah, but.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:32

And that's just the people that are on the show, I imagine.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:34

Uh, yeah, I mean uh we can't so we can't be like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:38

We've got to come up with ideas to save the show, right? Because if we're not getting more patrons soon, what's what's gonna happen? We're gonna have to go into obscure, we're gonna have to do the Beyblade. Actually, do not donate on Patreon because I want to do the Beyblade one.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:50

No, no, I'll definitely donate because we're doing this. I mean, I I'll be like all day long, yeah, all day long, all day long. Rapper reviews.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:58

Um, yeah, just I don't know, what uh how can you call yourself rapid reviews and the podcasts are two and a half hours long?

SPEAKER_04 1:29:07

That's a good point, actually, yeah. It's not rapid.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:09

And the geezer says he's rapping all day long and he only raps for a minute and a half.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:13

I think um to be fair, I think we're gonna What a mess. If we I mean, to be fair with the Birmingham, uh with VS Fighting, I'm probably gonna go and have a good time, and then next year I'm gonna smash it, I think, to be honest.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:26

What's that got to do with this? Um how's that saving the podcast?

SPEAKER_04 1:29:29

Well we're gonna get our name about VS Fighting, because we're the Lucky and Wild Ah, so there's an idea.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:35

Why don't we attend more tournaments and after every time we play somebody, um, GG, Lucky and Wild Gaming Podcast.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:42

Yeah, yeah, we'll do that.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:43

And if they ask what we're saying, we'll say Lucky and Wild Gaming Podcast, and you just walk away.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:46

Yeah, yeah. Right?

SPEAKER_02 1:29:46

That's idea number one, right? That's in the can. Second of all, I do think that one of our biggest strengths is our documentary ones. I don't think the Portsmouth one was quite as good, but because we just didn't have that much to talk about.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:57

I think it's more of a nice review though.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:59

Yeah, it's just a review of the thing. But I think uh our documentaries are good. Even if you don't like them, even if you don't like fighting games, give those a listen. I think you'll enjoy it because there's always stories that come out of those things. We need to do more of those, right? That's a more serious answer. But the lucky and while just tell everyone that we know. Now we did do a competition to get people to share the podcast and they didn't. We didn't have a single entry. No, so that hasn't worked. Annoyingly, um Do you think it's because we gave the a bucket away as a prize?

SPEAKER_04 1:30:26

Yeah, I mean it's I have since donated that to a charity shop. But um What if somebody enters now? But nobody's gonna enter now.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:34

Umbers. Do you have any cool gaming stuff we could give away? Yeah, games. Okay, what games? What games do you want to get rid of?

SPEAKER_04 1:30:44

No, no, I don't want to get rid of games. I don't want to get rid of them, like physical games. Um, but I starting next month, I'm gonna be doing gaming giveaways. Uh if you do like sort of like one game that we've talked about, that is one actual like this is uh like the podcast is already good, but I'm gonna make it yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:08

You can't say that. I mean that is debatable. I don't think it did. You listen to the first five minutes of this? Well, you were there.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:14

I was there, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:15

That was shocking.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:16

Alright, yeah, but sometimes you know you gotta walk before you run, you know. We're crawling at the moment.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:22

We're crawling, that's what we do. Lincoln Park.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:24

Win niche crawling in my skin, another Lincoln Park reference. See, probably less of those would be less of those, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:31:31

Okay, so I'm writing this down Monster Lincoln Park reference. No, you were saying you're gonna do giveaways, gaming shit. That sounds good. That sounds good. Yeah, I can't do it.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:38

I'm gonna be giving switch one. I'm gonna be doing Steam codes. Switch one.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:43

Alright, what are we giving away first?

SPEAKER_04 1:31:45

Well, I don't know, really.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:46

Well, we don't have any money at the moment because we spent it on Beyblades, right? Absolutely. But next month.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:51

Um yeah, next month. How about this, right? Why don't we give a copy? Because I do want to I did want to give games away this month as a serious answer. I know this is a stupid segment, but as a serious answer.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:03

That's not stupid, mate. I'm trying my best to save the fucking podcast here. How is that stupid?

SPEAKER_04 1:32:07

See? Um, but yeah, I will uh be giving games away next month. But what's your idea with that? What do you mean what's my idea with that?

SPEAKER_02 1:32:14

Is it your idea? Yeah, but you were s you you were sort of can you Oh yes. Um won't we give away a copy of Yellow Taxi Goes Room?

SPEAKER_04 1:32:21

Yeah, yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:22

Or parking garage rally circuit. Two of our games of the year.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:25

Alright.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:25

Why don't we give one of those away? Let's say this.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:28

Send in wait, wait, I wouldn't send in some art and we'll play it or look at it and publish it. Whatever you're talented at, send us something.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:40

Send us you excelling at a skill, right? And we will send you a game.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:46

As long as that skill is not something really harrowing, like I don't know murder. Yeah, like if you're good at murdering.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:53

No murdering, none of that, right? What we want is you excelling at something. It could be anything. It can be you can you balance a fork on your head for an hour? Send us a video of that and we will send you a copy of parking garage rally circuit garage.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:08

Should I also specify that like they can't really excel at being news because like I don't because I'm the fucking best at it.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:16

Fact. Look, we know we of course we don't want stuff like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:19

Yeah, that's what I mean. Like we don't if they're attractive women though. Um well it's all men still not for balance. It's like you know or trans people. Um just for like, you know, the whole package. Gays? I mean I mean, look, I don't want nudes, no nudes, no nudes, none of that.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:36

We don't want that.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:37

But yeah, if you're talented or gifted something, send us it in and we'll if they're really good at wearing clothes. No, actually, if you're not, yeah, but some people are though. Yeah, they are.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:47

If you're really stylish, I wish I could be that stylish, you know, but because if you're unbelievably fashionable and you're really good at picking an outfit, send us a picture of it. Yeah, that's yeah, exactly. I think that's a good competition. It's broad enough that anyone can enter. Because all of you listening, I just want to say this. I want to say what your parents never said to you when you were a kid, and that's why that you got into video games. You're good at something.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:08

You are maybe maybe more encouraging of the listeners. Because we sort of like That's what I'm doing now. I'm saying they're good at shit, man. Our sort of negative attitudes might rub rub off on them.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:18

So maybe we should like have I've never been negative about anything. That's probably my skill. I'm really good at shitting on things people like.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:26

Um, yeah, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:28

Because I've played all the games you like, listeners, and they're all shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:31

Yeah, yeah. I mean, you we do that a lot, but you know okay, so fine, that's the competition.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:36

You send us lucky and wild podcast at gmail.com. Send us some evidence of you doing something cool. It could be anything to me. And and the best one will win a prize next month. We will send you parking garage rally circuit on Steam.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:49

Yeah, we will. We will.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:50

Alright, that's it. That's good. We saved the podcast.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:53

Yes, that's it.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:54

Next stop, Joe Rogan.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:58

We're getting him on.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:59

No, I'd rather not. I want to get Alex Jones on here, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:02

Alright.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:03

Get him to like talk about each Pokemon. Jew.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:06

Jew. Vampire.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:09

Alright, let's do some mail.

unknown 1:35:19

Here we go.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:26

Alright, so uh I asked you gamers out there, Capital G gamers, what is the best blade blade combination and why do you use it? You didn't ask that. No, but if this was a Beyblade podcast, wouldn't that be a fun thing to hear people's thoughts on?

SPEAKER_04 1:35:43

Well you're some but I suppose you are middle-aged and that.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:46

I suppose you have to doing podcasts is what I do, bruv.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:48

Yeah, yeah, you've been in the game a long time, to be fair.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:52

I have. I have. We've had so many successful ones, and unfortunately, this isn't one of them. It is annoying that we didn't carry on with that anime podcast because that was for a fucking gold mine, but unfortunately.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:02

No, I actually genuinely really like it's doing. No, I really like doing this.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:07

I also no we do love we love making this. We love making this for you guys, and uh it's sort of a running joke, you know. But it's like well, the podcast itself is a joke. But it but um no our anime podcast, man, it was so fucking successful, and it's still getting lessons to this day, and all the episodes have like most of them have been deleted.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:26

Yeah, but this this podcast I actually enjoy. I hated that. That was horrible. That was fucking horrible.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:31

Uh do you know what I might do though? I've I've considered doing this, just releasing every episode as like a one like just in a chunk as a one-off episode on here because that was good, and there's only about eight episodes. I I mean it wasn't good for us to make, we hated it, but it would it might be nice for people to see, you know. I think people would like to listen. Basically, the premise, listeners, was that we got our mate who's never watched an anime and showed him anime to get him into it, or all of which were fucking mental. We made him watch Hentai, we made him watch Kaijo, we made him watch um Love Live.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:02

Was that like um was that one where people fight with their appendages, their brace?

SPEAKER_02 1:37:07

That was that was kaijo, yeah. The one where they fight with their tits and asses, assassination classroom as well. Yeah, that was terrible, that was shit. But it was have it was being forced to watch shit anime every month that made us hate it. Look, we've gone way look, we've gone off track. We've gone off this this podcast is about beyblade gaming, gaming. So I asked the listeners out there, gaming peripherals have sadly fallen by the wayside. But if you had to design a new peripheral for 2026, what would it be? Because you don't see guitar hero stuff anymore. We want but to bring peripherals back.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:37

You do. I mean uh I would should we listen to the listeners first or do you want to get your no no? I was just gonna say like before we start, like shout out to uh on Facebook uh Curse Controllers, the group Curse Control Like you'll get your fill of uh weird peripherals on.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:52

Well, did you ever see that um Smash Brothers tournament where the gaming controllers are randomized? No, no. And there was a guy that had to play Smash Brothers with the Donkey Conga bongos, right? And one of the things about those bongos was that you could clap and it were a microphone would sense the clap input, just a very sharp, sudden sound. Now this guy this guy's blocking was linked to the mic. So he had to scream really loud whenever he had to because it had to be a sustained scream to keep the block on screen. So he was dodging using the bongos and then going, ah, to to like do the uh to do the block. It was very funny.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:27

Yeah, because imagine all the like you know, because you block so much in that game.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:32

Yeah, so he was screaming constantly. Um anyway, Sid the Squid, he comes in, he says, gaming peripheral themed cocktail thermos. Now that doesn't really link to the game, does it? You're too close to your mic again. But it's just that he just wants a thermos that keeps your cocktail cool while it drinks a game. But that's not just a themed one. Oh what about gaming but you know, like some gaming peripherals, they have like say the VMU on the Dreamcast. It has some of the in-game or the Wii U gamepad, it has some of the in-game information on the pad. Well, if you had a thermos that had it that had one of those bendy screens wrapped around it, and it would change, change parameters in the game based on how much drink you've got left, how quickly you're drinking.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:21

Oh, that'd be good, and um just whack a little cyber pet in there for for for good measure.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:26

Say, for example, you're playing I I was trying to come up with an idea for a good game, but say for example you're playing Virtual Fire 5 and you're playing Shun, the drunken master, and the cup is detecting that if you're taking a drink in real life, and I don't know how, I'm not a scientist, but it also detects if it's real alcohol. You can't put water in there. Like even if that was just for looks, it would be quite a cool idea to a game where you where you drink and it's directly linked to how well you can drive, and it's called drunk driving. Something like that. I don't know. Um sort of a good idea, but it's not really necessarily linked to the game, is it, Sid? But I'm all for having drinks while you play games.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:05

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:05

He's got he's got he he he's put the peripherals to one side and he said, Fuck that, give me a drink. And that's fair enough. Uh Dr. Mumsen, he says, gaming peripheral, meta genital manipulator. So meta being VR.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:19

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:19

You can use your hands, you get haptic feedback. He wants one for the Dangus.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:23

Okay, I mean So you uh I remember putting it on my face once.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:27

Um my friend With the the genital thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:29

Yeah, yeah. You put the genital. It's a bit uncomfortable. My eyes, you know, the groin of the face.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:34

Um no, um I use the uh it's his phrases like groin of the face, which means that this nobody listens to this podcast. Do you know what I mean? It's shit like that. Um but yeah, like he wants to have sex but at uh globally.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:49

Um the only thing I can really say about that is I do remember when I think where can I order one? No, I remember putting the goggles on and it has a good vibration function. Um that's the only thing I've got to do. So it sounds like that's the only thing I've got. So if nobody's that's all I got, man. I don't know what you want from me. I find vibration annoying, so it's not really I don't uh well whatever.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:11

Anyway, look, the the the genital manipulator, you can you you you can make a fun game of it.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:16

Well, what about the one part in Metal Gear Solid 3 where you get grabbed in the nerds? That's gonna really that's gonna be immersive, eh?

SPEAKER_02 1:41:25

Yeah, because they but in Metal Gear Solid 2 it happens as well. Oh, it does, yeah. So I'm thinking that the the that maybe it look uh at the moment it's a very niche use case for the uh genital manipulator because uh very few games, mainly Kojima ones, would feature heavy use of it.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:41

However, well but when Virtufier 6 crossroads comes out and you like really want that feel of a kick to the nuts.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:47

Really getting kicked to the nuts. Um no, but what I'm saying is is that maybe if this peripheral came along, more games would use it. Yeah, they'd probably before VR, how many VR games were there? Very little. Before the genital manipulator, how many genital-based games were there?

SPEAKER_04 1:42:02

Two.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:03

Two. So yeah, we need it. That is a bit weird. We need it, we need it, and and also like you can just you can do you can get somebody to jaw it from another country. That's pretty cool, isn't it?

SPEAKER_04 1:42:16

I mean, uh that is cool, I guess. For some people, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:19

Yeah, if you're into that. Carti, he says gaming peripheral, the iToy 2. I like the first one, but better.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:25

Yeah, a lot of people like the original iToy.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:27

What's one good game for it though?

SPEAKER_04 1:42:29

Invisibles? Um was Invisibles good? Uh I mean, all I remember was seeing it on Gamesville. I mean, it was more of a like a normal Gamesville. It was more it was more of like a normal like people who had PSTs for the D just for the DVD player would buy the iToy. Yeah, like that buzz sing star. It's very like sort of I don't know what you call it, like in between Gen Gen Z and Millennial, like that sort of via.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:57

Yeah, but like it was yeah, it's people like casuals, yeah. But I feel like there's there's been some good camera-based games out there. I really enjoyed Dance Central, that was fucking great, but I I struggle to think of many more, you know what I mean? I mean Tearaway on the Vita had some cool camera features, but I remember playing that at one point, and there's a point where your face, like because the front-facing camera is just always on, your face becomes the sun. And you know, if you've ever accidentally looked at yourself, like your reflection when you're using a phone, you think fucking hell, I really have lost my looks.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:27

It's the accidental double chin when you look down.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:29

Yeah, like tearaway had that built into the fucking game, and I was like, I don't need a reminder that I'm a fat old man, that's not what I need. But um the iToy 2. I mean, Kati, could you suggest some games for it, maybe? Because I'm struggling to think. I know there's been good camera bases. What was that fucking one for Xbox Live? Was it Pegle?

SPEAKER_04 1:43:45

Totem Ball.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:46

Totem Ball, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:48

My friend was the best in the world at that. Anytime you bring it up, he'd be really annoyed. Oh, you spent like hours playing Totem Ball.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:56

He was, he literally was, he was the number one one ranked player in Totem Ball in the world. I the best application of that fucking camera though was putting your face onto the characters in Rainbow Six Vegas, and it looked dog shit every single time. Yeah, it was a JPEG over yeah, and I'd I I'd had mine be Arnold Schwarzenegger and then would run around going uh uh Um cool uh yes please do let us know if there are any good iToy games because I've not heard of one, to be honest. Um Ace, he says, I would like a mainstream whole body haptic feedback. Now I don't know what a fee a haptic feedback is, I guess if you're eating in a game.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:34

Uncle Moe's family feedback.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:37

Um it's just so weird. I thought of that today as well. Do you remember when he's got like the chips on his head and one of the Flanders kids is eating it? So funny. Um, but he does continue. Dyslexia, fuck, I meant feedback. So um he says, although a feedback might be useful for horse simulator or American diner simulator, so we could get Uncle Mo's family feedback. Um, yeah, whole body haptic feedback is something that's sort of been one of those uh white whales of gaming for a while, isn't it? I mean you can get them now, but they're too expensive. And I feel like that's one of the levels of immersion that we need. Um, you know, that that would that would really ramp up an experience is feeling like you're being hit or uh kicked in the nuts.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:17

I feel I feel like that's what we want.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:20

Bummed in the gob.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:21

Like, what the hell? Um I feel like I feel like that's what we want from VR though, to be fair.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:27

Like um, that's what people immersion is the main goal of it, right? And I feel like, yeah, uh whole body haptic feedback would be really good.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:34

But um I also probably prefer I mean I I probably prefer to not have that at all, really, to be honest personally, but you know, I can see why people would want it, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:46

Like personally, you don't want to feel like you're actually being punched.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:49

No, not really. Not really. Get punched too many times in the Yeah, but like for other games. Especially when someone comes up to me and like they challenge me to a Beyblade game and I'm like Bayblades, you know, like uh I'll just go bug catcher Joe or whatever, he comes up to me, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:04

You're thinking of Pokemon though, but that's fine.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:07

Yeah, I know, but listen.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:09

Are there any games aside from ones where you just get hurt where uh a haptic feedback thing might be good? I'm thinking maybe like a driving game or something.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:16

Yeah, like if you pull like for example, like if you pull something out of the ground or something. Right. Like if you're farming, you can feel that. Um I know that's a bit boring, but you know, there's uh maybe but it maybe this one's certain applications.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:30

Maybe the world is not ready for a full-body haptic feedback.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:33

Not really, because our minds are not there yet.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:35

Yeah, I mean, because the uh the only place my mind goes to is is is filth.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:39

Being hurt.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:40

Oh filth and being hurt, which is like the two things people do in community games.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:45

Yeah, they yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:46

Fucking Northerner, he says I'd revamp the Nintendo heart rate monitor peripherals, they've done more than one. I think there is untapped potential, particularly in the realm of rhythm and horror games. Yeah, uh see, I'd I'd agree with that, and I think that um maybe uh get horror games keeping track of your heart rate to try and do more and more shit to scare you would be kind of fun.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:10

I've got to be honest though, I reckon um that that sort of technology would just end up in friend slot.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:17

Yeah, it probably would. But um, I think for certain horror games it would be really fun.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:20

But this idea is brilliant, to be fair.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:23

I feel the idea of it being used in rhythm games is funny to me. Because I I think he's he's imagining like the song gets faster and slower depending on your heart rate and things like this, or whatever, right? But my point is, what if there was a rhythm game where you had to try to slow or speed up your heart rate um to do to achieve certain goals? Like you get to a really hard bit, suddenly to get past this bit, you need to really calm. So you're gonna have to do sort of aggressive meditation to try and get through to the next part. You've got to speed up your heart rate, so go out for a quick run. The opposite. I hate that.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:57

I was gonna say the opposite end is sort of asking for trouble, really. You're gonna get injuries, you're gonna get there is gonna be trouble straight away with that.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:05

Yeah, because you're getting people that never go outside to do physical activity, and that's not right.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:09

Well, not only not only that, but people will just exhaust themselves over a game, and I mean I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:16

Look at look at look at how physical uh games that have physical input sort of really went that like nobody gives a fuck about them anymore. No, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. So the we we were. I do think it has untapped potential though. There's got to be a lot of uses for it, and I do I do think in horror games that would be a good thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:32

I just think it would be used for the wrong things, but I think it's a great idea.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:35

These things always are. I mean, thing is, is the the cool thing about peripherals is that uh it always makes me think of like arcade days and like how good peripherals really made a fucking game when they were designed explicitly around that thing, and when they were brought into the home a lot of times, it was like then they got used for generic purposes and then eventually just stopped being used, you know, hardware gimmicks. But actually, they make a lot of games really fucking good. There were really good, uh good loads of like Wii games and the Wii U as well as like untapped potential central. I mean, it was like that controller was really fucking cool. Oh no, yeah, but um yeah, what would you IDV? You have to create a peripheral for nowadays.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:12

Create a peripheral uh I mean I I did see it and I I did have an idea of that.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:19

Um but you've lost it.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:21

Yeah, but I mean I think we need to just bring, to be honest, extra screens back, to be honest. I mean, I just love that, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:27

Why are there not more two-screen games on PC? Like, I would love that. I would I've just just more games that utilize multiple monitors. I'm sure there are some, but like there's not enough. Like, I mean, what one of my favourite um things I saw was like somebody uh playing the original uh Darius games, which originally used three monitors. Oh, yeah. And that game allows for a three monitor setup so you can have it really fucking long, like it was in the original arcade game. But a monitor's not really a peripheral though, is it?

SPEAKER_04 1:49:54

Everyone has a phone, so it's like then Why not have more like dual screen stuff? Has become a peripheral, I think.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:02

Yeah, it could be. If you had one of those phone controllers and could clip it to your phone and use it for games, like all screen stuff has always been so fucking good and it's underutilised.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:10

I loved um even though it was a bit of a mid game. Like um just playing it with you guys mate and I mean it was.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:20

If you were about to slag off Nintendo Land, I'm gonna kill you.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:23

No, that's a good game. But um no, I was thinking of uh Cr Crystal Chronicles, uh, which is like we had so much fun playing it. Yeah, because that's the GBA sort of you had the individual maps on your GBA, like one of you would have one uh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:37

Yeah, so you had you it was a it was a dungeon crawler game. Uh uh yeah, the game was a bit mid, but like the the little features you so you each had a Game Boy Advance plugged into the GameCube, and one of your characters would be good at detecting treasure, one would be good at detecting monsters. So when you get into each game, you'd you'd have your screen in front of you, but you'd have to share information with the people you were playing with. And then you had the downtime bits between between um each dungeon run where you would um uh like read letters from your family, and you'd each be sitting there reading your own individual letters and advancing the story, and then maybe you could share it with each other, or your family would send you different items, and like and and the Legend of Zelda four swords as well. That was great, yeah. If you went into a different part, like you'd all be playing on the same big screen on your TV, but if one of the links went into a different building, you'd then be playing on your little screen in front of you, and like dual screen stuff is under-supported. Like, we had a whole console, whole two consoles that fucking did it, but still there in there aren't enough games that utilize it. I mean, that is a very, very good example example. Now, what I would like to see, um, I just want a light gun that works with modern TVs.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:50

Oh, yeah, me too. Me too.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:52

Now, people will notice that there has been an influx of those uh recently with uh like there was a Kickstarted one recently, but there there are a lot of problems with it, and it doesn't work quite as advertised, and you need to calibrate it every single time that you play. Like just a light gun that works with modern TVs, and I don't I don't think the specifically maybe calling it a light gun is bad because maybe that technology wouldn't work because of the way that screens project things nowadays, right? However, but just a gun, a gun that I can use on a modern TV.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:26

Yeah, there's gotta be something to bridge that gap, innit?

SPEAKER_02 1:52:29

Like Wii U the Wii did it, right? But because it wasn't a light gun technology, you always had to still have a cursor on the screen. You couldn't just aim down the sides and shoot things.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:39

No, it was very inaccurate. I mean, there were some excellent um I mean not enough as well, not enough. Because I I mean I'd say that's like a good portion of why I bought the Wii to be honest, but there wasn't enough of those kind of games, even then. Like the aim was off.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:56

The aim was off, although you had to have a cursor on the screen, and that was always like I mean like I like aiming down the actual fucking gun and shooting people in time crisis. That's what I just want to do that on my PC. Like, I can get a good racing wheel, I can get a dance map, but that that is just technology that is lost to time.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:11

Yeah, unfortunately. Um but it's there's a lot of demand for it, to be fair. Um I I mean I've even to be honest, like but then I do want to like sort of play new releases that come out, but I've been tempted to get like I don't know, like a light gun sort of get a light gun to get a CRT. Like, I don't know, like there's people that are building um sort of mini arcades with light gun support.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:35

Yes, I mean there there's ones you can buy an Argos now. You can buy a Time Crisis 2 machine that plays Time Crisis 1, 2, point blank 1 and 2, they're 600 pounds from Argos, and I've uh uh I'm like mate, imagine the amount you would fucking play it. I mean but I've been tempted to get a CRT TV basically because older games look shit on on modern displays, and I want to just hook one up as a third monitor and have a CRT. And you know, my local dump. I know somebody, I don't know why I started whispering there, but I know somebody, Millie's uh my wife is good friends with the one of the ladies that runs it, right? And the other day I went in there and I saw in the TV dumping area they just had a ton of CRTs, right? And I just said to her, like, can I just either buy one or just take one? Like, we just say nothing about it, can I just go in there and take one? And she's like, No, they strip it for parts which they then sell, which then that money goes to the council. So it's not as if, like, it's not as if they're just disposing of them, they're actually making money off them.

SPEAKER_04 1:54:30

So yeah, because it is a recycling centre, and we call it the dump, but it's it's a recycling centre.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:36

But and the thing is, is that uh uh if I had a CRT, I could just get point blank on the PS1, get a gun.

SPEAKER_04 1:54:42

I've seen people as well very recently, um, sort of being able to put their main screen, they can move it like you can with the normal monitors.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:53

Yeah, you can you can do that, you just need a little converter. Um and I really want to do that, but it's because there's been a recent rise in people realising the quality of CRT for old games, they've gone up way in price. It's ridiculous. I was in a brick-a-brac shop recently in like Horsham, right? And this guy had a Sony Triniton, which was like the goat of CRT TVs, and I was just like, How much is that? And he's like £450. I'm like, Well, okay, I can buy a modern TV for that. My wife is never gonna let me spend £450 quid on a T CRT.

SPEAKER_04 1:55:22

They just need a um we just need a like I've probably said it before, but we just need a like someone to just come out and make a modern CRT.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:30

New new CRTs. It's like the one obsolete tech that uh Chinese companies aren't making. Yeah, you can buy CD players, really good CD players for dirt cheap, really good digital audio players for dirt cheap, but CRTs just are not being produced, and I wish they were. Anyway, we went off on a bit of a tangent there, let's get to general questions. Carti, he says, extra question. You have to complete a game using one peripheral that isn't usually compatible with said game. Which pr which game and peripheral do you choose? Now, what he means is, and I've seen something on uh Twitch recently, the guys uh completing all the Bioshock games using a racing wheel.

SPEAKER_04 1:56:05

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:05

Shit like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:56:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:06

So you've got to complete a game with a non-standard peripheral for it.

SPEAKER_04 1:56:12

I saw this question, and I'm pretty sure I could probably do outrun with the Donkey Kong Bongos. Donkey Konga Bongos, sorry.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:21

The Donkey Konga Bongos. So you would you would play Outrun, but hang on, to turn to turn you would have to like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:56:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:29

I mean How would you accelerate? Uh you you would accelerate using the microphone.

SPEAKER_04 1:56:34

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:35

Oh no, what's that? That would be great, wouldn't it?

SPEAKER_04 1:56:40

No, it'd be horrible.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:41

It would be horrible.

SPEAKER_04 1:56:42

I'll I'll get back to my one, you go on your one.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:44

Um right. So, a peripheral that I would use the res vibrator pad. Uh that's not re it. I mean, it's not a control method, um, but uh I would use Tell you what, uh like a non-standard peripheral. I have wanted to we spoke about this recently, enter a fighting game competition and just use a steering wheel as my controller. Because you technically any input is acceptable, right? Or in most cases. Just go there, like I because we discussed it about versus fighting coming up, right? And I was thinking it'd be really funny just for one of the games I don't necessarily give a fuck about doing well in. Like go to Grand Blue, no, go to Virtual Fighter, that was it, yeah, and use a steering wheel as a controller. That would be fucking funny.

SPEAKER_03 1:57:25

Yeah, that would be great, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:26

No, like use using the pedals to go like to go left and right, maybe, and using the wheel for the inputs. I don't know. Like that would be a hell of a lot fun.

SPEAKER_04 1:57:34

Yeah, that would be fun, yeah. That would be fun.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:36

I have seen uh like um you know people using dance mats for various things, and I feel like using a dance mat for um and this is just a good answer, but like using a dance mat for um what is it, Crypt of the Necrodancer?

SPEAKER_04 1:57:49

Oh yeah. What is the was the rhythm you mean rift of the necromancer?

SPEAKER_02 1:57:53

Rift of the necro dancer, yeah, yeah. Like using a dance mat for that would be tight as fuck. That would be what that would actually be good. But this is you've got to yeah, exactly. You've got to complete a game with a peripheral that wasn't meant. Like complete a game. So that suggests something that has a beginning and an end, not like a fighting game. Complete a game.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:09

Alright.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:10

Um God of War light gun.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:16

I mean, I've got a PC light gun that has a D-pad and a thumbstick on it. I could without cheating though.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:22

What, so you just use the controls on the thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:25

I think what I like to do.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:27

No, no, get no, get get the um get you remember that Resident Evil controller that was the the chainsaw.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:32

Yeah, I remember.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:33

Try and use that to complete the modern Resident Evil 4.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:36

I remember someone that's a good one. I remember someone at a um like who used to like attend regular Smash tournaments who just used that and he was really good with it.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:46

Legend.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:47

Um but yeah, um I got an answer, that's fine. No, no, um I haven't, unfortunately. I mean my outrun one was the the main one, but right, so that's we're locking that in.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:59

Uh that's a stream. You're doing that. We're gonna get some bongos and you're gonna play outrun with it. Screaming the entire time. Because you pretty much have to have the accelerator on the whole time in that game.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:10

Yeah you you have to let go around some really tight corners.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:13

So you're gonna have to really time your uh your screaming on that.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:17

Yeah, I will, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:18

Come on, that would be a good stream. You'd have to watch it with the sound off, but it'll be funny to watch.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:22

Yeah, I'm not like I don't know if people know. I I'm not like the most loudest person in the world.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:27

You don't know if people know. You can barely hear you on most of these. Sorry. But um And you've just moved into uh to a new house with a new roommate, so I'd just hear you screaming constantly into your bongos, that'd be great.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:41

It would, yeah. Yeah, I mean the first time I screamed into some bongos, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:47

Brilliant. Right, okay, well moving on. Fucking Northerner, what's a gen game genre mashup you wish more developers would experiment with? You can't pick rhythm horror I call dibs. Alright, genre mashup.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:00

Um let me guess, you haven't got an answer for this one either?

SPEAKER_04 2:00:02

No, I have button. Go on, yeah, go on.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:04

No, no, no, no, you've got one, so you go first. Go on. Um what's the genre mashup?

SPEAKER_04 2:00:09

Well, I'd I mean, it's slight it's it's sad, but I I just really like roguelike. Sort of horror games. Rogue yeah. I I just wish there were more tight ones where like it's a horror game, but like you unlock shit.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:22

Okay, so um like House of Necrosis, next.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:26

Or Death Road to Canada.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:28

Oh right, so you want more Death Road to Canada. Roguelike isn't really a genre, it's a mechanic.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:34

It's a genre.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:35

It's not a genre.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:36

It's listed as a genre on screen.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:38

It is, but unfortunately they're wrong. It's a mechanic.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:40

You're gonna tell Gabe it's wrong.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:42

I am. Gabe, you're wrong.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:44

Alright.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:45

Um like a game genre mashup would be like action platformer.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:49

I wish RPG to be honest, I wish that they hadn't like uh they brought back like top-down races, but you like customise your car and you have like weapons and shit. Like an online game like that, that'll be RBG.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:03

So your genre matchup will be one genre. It will be a top-down racing game.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:07

No, because it's right, how about this? How about this?

SPEAKER_02 2:01:11

We I'm gonna Will you stop? I'm gonna cut we're gonna do an experiment. I'm gonna count down from three, and when we get to go, both of us are gonna say a genre, and that'll be our answer. And then we have to go and make the game, right? Uh have you got one locked in your head?

SPEAKER_03 2:01:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:26

Alright, uh, three, two, one, step. Rhythm. Rhythm still. He said not to pick rhythm. Oh no, yeah. Right, right. Let's do that again, right? Okay, uh let me think. Right. Three, two, one, beat em up. Cozy. Cozy beat'em up, there we go.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:43

But well, I don't I don't know what the fuck actually actually.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:46

Actually, right, yeah, that could be good. Cozy beat-em-up. So I'm thinking something ghibli-esque.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:53

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:54

Like it looks beautiful, it's peaceful as fuck, but you're punching shit.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:58

And the bonus stages are you like farming shit quickly, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:01

Yes, there we go, that's a good idea. Actually, okay, so for a cozy farming sim beat-em-up. Yeah, right. Between levels, you you beat the shit out of vegetables, right? And the higher combos you get, you get more ingredients from them. Then you need to cook between the levels, so it's cooking now instead of finding out.

SPEAKER_04 2:02:20

You get like ranks when you're yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:22

And then you cook dishes, and based on how well you cook or what you cook, you get different buffs for the next level, and it resets every time you play the game.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:30

There we go, that's a fucking good idea. Right. Copywriting that.

SPEAKER_04 2:02:34

Yeah, we are. I mean, that's the same.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:35

But now can we come up with like a good pun name for it? Cook 'em up. Beat 'em up. Beat beat beat as in the vegetable em up. Yeah, that's great. Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 2:02:44

Um you gotta get it like all your life.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:46

Or beat as in hit a man, root, beat root, beat root, beat root.

SPEAKER_04 2:02:52

It's actually an excellent idea.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:53

It's a really good idea. Thank you, fucking Northern. That was a great question. Although, yeah, I've not, although you've got a good one now, have you?

SPEAKER_04 2:02:59

No, I haven't. No. Bay Blade the musical.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:03

There we go. Right, uh, let's do an outro. But but uh, thank you very much for sending your questions in. If you want to do so in the future, please join the Discord. The link is in the description, or you can send an email to Lucky and Wild Podcast at gmail.com. We're gonna do the outro now, but uh do stick around because we've got the sound test afterwards where we pick a video game song to play us out of the podcast.

SPEAKER_04 2:03:27

And I will say see you at VS Fighting.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:30

If you're there, come and say hi to us. You don't know what we look like, but we will be saying Lucky and Wild Podcast after every game, so you know it's us. Yeah, literally.

SPEAKER_00 2:03:37

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SPEAKER_02 2:04:05

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SPEAKER_04 2:04:34

That's why you've got to go in the Discord and answer to your shit, man. Just go on there.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:38

It's like you know, why don't you tell us why you why you haven't paid? And if the answer is because the podcast isn't very good, then fair enough. But don't say that, because that'll hurt my feelings. Because that's just like your opinion, man. Yeah, exactly. And all this money is gonna go on good stuff, like chicken nuggies. Uh donno nuggies as well. No, we're gonna go. Why do you keep going so close to your mic? Do you know the last episode it was so annoying? I could hear every mouth noise you made, and I'd wanted to actually kill you. I apologize. But uh That's why people don't donate on Patreon. What I mean Well, there's a lot of reasons. There is a lot of reasons, but anyway, do it to please.

SPEAKER_04 2:05:14

Yeah, we we do appreciate it.

SPEAKER_02 2:05:16

Um we will get to We appreciate Kate specifically because we can shout her out.

SPEAKER_04 2:05:21

Yeah, yeah. We no, we appreciate all our Patreons. Patrons. Patrons.

SPEAKER_02 2:05:25

The patrons. Uh we do appreciate you, but uh we need more of them because uh we well You know, we want to keep this going.

SPEAKER_04 2:05:32

We do want to keep it we do want to keep it going. We want to buy some fresh games. I mean, I will be doing Baldur's Gate next month, to be honest.

SPEAKER_02 2:05:38

So if you better do, man.

SPEAKER_04 2:05:40

Yeah, yeah, I will.

SPEAKER_02 2:05:41

Now I'm not gonna you you read into this however you want, right? It is on golk.com.

SPEAKER_04 2:05:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 2:05:49

So that's good.

SPEAKER_04 2:05:50

I'll see if it's about price there.

SPEAKER_02 2:05:52

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He just winked at me, by the way, listeners.

SPEAKER_04 2:05:55

Um, no, you got a low. There's all these fleas in my eyes, man. You got a lot of window. There's a look, there's a flea there right now. There's some debris coming in there. Cheese coming in through the window.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:07

You are joking. Um actually, speaking of dad jokes, I've got a joke for you.

SPEAKER_04 2:06:12

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:12

Coffee isn't my cup of tea. Right, uh, let's go to the sound test. Alright, uh I'm picking a song from Xenoblade Chronicles. Now there isn't much interesting background on this, sadly.

SPEAKER_04 2:06:37

But what's nerd? Right, so we're even we're even.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:42

No, because I usually interrupt yours and do loads of stupid shit during the sound test, you're gonna interrupt me and try and make a joke of it. But I'm not going to.

SPEAKER_04 2:06:49

I already did. You don't. Now you can carry on. You interrupt. You're just interrupting yourself now, man.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:55

Right, you think you're some sort of funny guy, do you?

SPEAKER_04 2:06:58

No, go on.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:59

What I can say about Zenerblade Chronicles uh and its soundtrack is it's one of the greatest game soundtracks ever composed. And if you've played Smash Brothers, you've likely heard a version of the tune that I'm about to talk about. If you if you interject Sean, I'm looking at him, he's getting ready to do something.

SPEAKER_04 2:07:14

No, I'm just thinking of that song, it's the tune, man.

SPEAKER_02 2:07:16

Which one?

SPEAKER_04 2:07:17

Um Guar Planes.

SPEAKER_02 2:07:19

Alright, fair enough. Right, well you spoiled it. But it look, the music for this game was composed by a trio of composers due to the game's size. This group of music men is called Ace Plus. And they've been working on the Xeno series since Xenogears on the PS1, and they make excellent tunes. Today, however, I'll specifically speak about Tomori Kudo and the track Guar Planes from Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition. Now I'm aware it's a bit of a basic uh bitch thing, bitch song to pick from that game, because it is the one everyone knows. However, and it does play in the first open area of the game, uh, but it has this incredible way of conveying the grandeur and majesty of the landscape while also feeling sort of comforting, like you're on a big adventure, but it feels like uh it feels homely.

SPEAKER_04 2:08:02

Yeah, it's got like a zeldery aesthetic to it, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_02 2:08:06

Like most of the areas of the game feel lived in, specifically by wildlife. But when you get into this area and you see it brimming with uh loads of local wildlife, see some of the most interesting and beautiful landscapes in the entirety of computer games, coupled with this music. Well, that is basically the reason that I play computer games and why I love computer game music.

SPEAKER_04 2:08:24

And like the world building is one of the best parts of the game, but the songs lend really lend themselves to that as well.

SPEAKER_02 2:08:32

100%, 100%. Might be the best, one of my favourite out there. And there's so many good tunes to pick from this game, but that despite it being one of the first ones, one of the most upfront songs in the game, it's fucking incredible. I'm playing the day version of it here, but uh yeah, this is uh I've been Harrison Hunt.

SPEAKER_04 2:08:48

Yeah, I've been Sean Hunt.

SPEAKER_02 2:08:50

And remember that we don't know what we're talking about, but neither do you. And this is I might. You don't.

SPEAKER_04 2:08:55

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 2:08:56

You don't. You don't. Your answer to most of those questions earlier on was I don't know.

unknown 2:09:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:09:01

I haven't got an answer. But I'm honest. Where am I? I'm honest.

SPEAKER_04 2:09:04

I'm an honest journalist.

SPEAKER_02 2:09:06

Yes, you are. But and like other games journalists, you can't play games. You're rubbish at that. Alright, this is Guar Planes, or Gawa Plains, I don't know how to pronounce it, from Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition for the Switch 1 by Nintendo, not Nintendo, the other people that made it, who I forget. Bye.