Serial Cheater & Kidnapper | General Hospital June 1st to 5th, 2026

Ma and Daughter (Kay) discuss the daytime soap General Hospital from June 1st to 5th about: 

• Ethan talking to Alexis about being Phoebe father
• Ethan making a deal with Ava 
• Alexis talked to BLQ and Chase about Phoebe’s adoption
• Michael and Jacinda team up against Willow
• Tracy catches Willow and Chase 
• Michael talks to Tracy, while BLQ ask Lucy for help
• Pascal running for his life
• Sonny, Laura and Lucas team up
• Josslyn escaped, but caught
• Cullum threatens Jack, so he teams up with Nina, Carly and Valentine
• Dante lights up around Elizabeth
• Lisel is kidnapped 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:10

Hello everybody and welcome back to our podcast about Journal Hospital. First thing I want to say is that thank you for those who voted. From now on, our podcast episodes are going to be about 30 minutes each. So just want to give you a heads up on that. Next up, thank you everybody for following and leaving your reviews. We really appreciate it, especially since June is the month that we started last year. So happy one-year anniversary for us. Is there anything else, Mom?

SPEAKER_01 0:44

Nope, that's it.

SPEAKER_00 0:45

Okay. All right then. Well, let's get started on Journal Hospital this week. It's kind of an audacity week, I feel like, for me. A lot of audacity. But let's start with the least, which is Ethan. Now, Ma, we have been talking about this for a couple of months. Do we think that Ethan is the father, or do we think he's covering or trying to like save Phoebe from the actual father?

SPEAKER_01 1:13

I've been waiting on this all week to talk about it. I don't believe for a minute he's still the father. I believe he's covering for somebody else. And it can be the person maybe is a really not like a good person, or maybe the person can be into something not so great. But I believe that he is still not the father. I do believe he is covering it up. What shocked me was that there's no DNA ties being done. So Alex is talked to him and she's taking his word for it. But I'm just like, so there's no DNA though to make sure that he is the father. So I was kind of surprised by that. But I still say he's not the father. He's definitely covering for somebody. And it's gonna be horrible because he's not telling the truth. Um, so when a father does show up and start claiming his right, he's gonna have the rights because Ethan lied. And then Alexis is gonna be dragged into it because she didn't take it a step further and say, Well, let me do a DNA test, though. We gotta make sure, you know, like check out that he is the father because he told her he was with her like one time or what have you. And of course, you know, you can get pregnant on one time, but still, it's more to the story to me.

SPEAKER_00 2:26

Yeah, I feel like it could be Cassius, because Cassius came on before her, and also could be this new character that puts to come on. His name is supposed to be Tristian Rogers. Now it could be connected to Robert, the um character, and we know that the actor had passed away last year. It could be that or this new character could be connected to Phoebe. What I liked was Ava knew Ethan was scheming something. She don't know what, but she don't care. Ava's about her coins. So I was like, oh hey, Ava. I think she's someone that might figure out that Ethan is not the father potentially. I don't know, but Ethan tried with Ava. Ava's like, nah, nah, give me some money. So I I feel like we're gonna going to know more about this later. I just hope the adoption is stall. And I say that because of everything that's been going on between Brooklyn, Chase, and Willow. I don't know. Do you feel like he's just oblivious to what Willow's doing? Or do you think he knows what she's doing and he's fine with it?

SPEAKER_01 3:43

I think he probably knows and he's fine with it. And in his heart, he probably really believes that he probably won't cheat on um Brooklyn, but at the end of the day, it's wrong. And Willow, I mean, her thing is when Brooklyn, you know, threatened her to stay away from Chase, all Willow did to me was just say, noted, challenge received, you know, because she went straight for him right after that. So it's like Willow is just that kind of person, like Brooklyn can't do like an empty threat. So I was actually kind of glad to see her team up with Lucy Cole because Lucy, she knows, you know, I think how to handle the situation. So I it's gonna be interesting to see what Lucy comes up with for her. But at this point, Brooklyn, she's gonna have to fight for her marriage, or she can just stand there and just see what Chase does at this point. But it's will, it's really willow. It's not Chase that's coming onto her. I mean, he's doing some things he shouldn't do, like talk about like I want to rub your feet or something.

SPEAKER_00 4:46

Rub her feet, giving her flowers, hugging her a little bit too long for me. It's just little stuff he's been doing. It's like, oh, Bricklet, it's it's innocent, there's nothing going on. It's like Chase, are you that oblivious? Now it's glad Tracy was going off on him about it. And of course, Chase trying to be y'all bad and cause um Brooklyn over. And Tracy was like, Look, I can see what's about to happen. Get out while you can't. And I agree because they're trying to adopt Phoebe. The last thing anybody wants is for Brooklyn to be tied tied to Chase because you know Chase is gonna be tied to Willow. I will not want her around my kid whatsoever with her craziness. So I hope that Brooklyn talks to Alexis because Alexis saw it. She was there when Willow and Chase, like, oh thank you, oh thank you, oh thank you, oh no, you're great. And Alexis is like, what is going on here? So I hope that Brooklyn tells Alexis to stall a little bit on that. Because the last thing you want to be is tied to somebody who's not faithful to you, who's being much, who's pretty much being a moron. I kind of wish Tracy threw Gregory in her face and say that that his father would be very disappointed in him. I mean, if Finn was around, I think he would tell Chase the same thing. Like, what are you doing with with Willow? She cheated on you. What she's circling back around you now after you it's gonna be Michael again, and then Drew again. She's on her third marriage, and each one and she has cheated. It does remind me of what Justin said after everything happened with Michael after he got burnt. It's like you cheat on Chase with Michael, he did the same thing, Michael with Drew. I wonder who's next. It's Chase. She just does not know how to stay faithful. And I'm so tired of Nina making her be like the the um victim. And I love how Lisa came in and was like, oh poor, poor Willow. Oh, she's not the victim, she's a viper. Like, come on, Nina. And every chance Nina gets, she has to defend her and the audacity for her to call Michael a monster.

SPEAKER_01 7:10

Yeah, that's kind of true. Yeah, I was like, he was not a monster.

SPEAKER_00 7:13

And I think the only reason she said that was because Carly is his mother, and she can't stand Carly. Nina can't stand none of Carly's kids. At some point, she can't stand Donna at one point. You know, I think that's probably gonna happen later down that she can't stand Donna, but she cannot stand none of Carly's kids, so it is what it is, but I'm glad Lizo was like, you two need to do better. I don't care what you're doing, just do better. And Willow, I think, was just kind of she had like because I feel like with Willow, she thinks she's the smartest person in the room, and she's not. And that was definitely showed with Lisa. Coming, come on, it's Lizo. She knows what a stroke person looks like, she knows Drew is doing Morris Cole. Like, Lizo's like, just do better, all right? Cause y'all two suck. I thought it was a great scene.

SPEAKER_01 8:09

Well, Lizo had me cracking up. She was like, Y'all need to put some sunglasses on him because he's the one like these ass on a signals. I was cracking up. That whole scene with her was hilarious. But yeah, I mean, she always clocked Willow, but Nina just don't want to hear it. But I see Nina didn't tell her when um Lizo was like, you know, you better watch out because she'll turn on you. And then Nina just kind of like put her hand up. She didn't tell her though that she already has done that to her because Lizo probably just really go off about that.

SPEAKER_00 8:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:42

Like you're gonna let your daughter do this to you, kind of thing. Lizo probably just lose it.

SPEAKER_00 8:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:47

But I'm glad that they're showing Lizo now. I said it's about time because I like her character.

SPEAKER_00 8:52

Well, yeah, and I feel like she should have been in the storyline a long time ago. And I kept saying, like, where's Lizo at? Where's Lisa? So now she's around, but then she got kidnapped by Colum. Column is so desperate. Because he was because when you talk to Silas saying he gotta find someone, I was like, Lizo would be the next best person. She worked with Fazan for years, she knows his stuff. I'm surprised he didn't use her first, but Lizo's also a wild card, too. So we try to see how next week's gonna go because I don't think Cassius knows about this, and then she's put in the room with Jocelyn. So I think Lizo and Jocelyn are going to work together on this whole thing, and I wonder how it's gonna go. Because Jocelyn tried to escape. I give her credit, she was trying her hardest to escape, but girl, there are like 10 ways to get out of Windermere, and you chose her front door. The front door. Really? You couldn't find a tunnel, like like as a kid, she was on on the island because she was friends with Spencer. You you you forgot where everything was at? Like, come on, Jocelyn. It was just like I I don't know. But Jocelyn is like, oh, way y'all did shoot me. It's like, uh yeah, like what do you think this?

SPEAKER_01 10:16

I was like, Well was funny though, because Silwell was like, it's not like I haven't done it before. Told her that, you know, he underlies somebody in the living room, so but she don't know that. But I thought it was smart of her to drop her ring like that. Um, so hopefully Lucas or somebody finds it so that they know that she's there. Because right now nobody knows where where she's at. They are starting to get down to it, Carly and um Valentine. But right now they they really don't have proof that she's in the house. I'd be glad when they figure it out.

SPEAKER_00 10:49

Yeah, I I think Lucas could figure out because Lucas is is on a mission. He wants it well taken down, he wants Column taken down too. I thought it was really good when he went to what's the guy's name? Uh Officer Joe. And then he went to um Windermere, and Pascal at this scare looked like he was about to strangle him right there. It was just it was very messy. I liked how Tracy and BOQ were looking back and forth, like, what is going on here? And Pascal, of course, runs, and I love how Sunny, I thought it was funny when he had not on on the car is like, hey, do you need a lift? And he's holding up the wires. I was like, dang, Sonny, you just you just out here. So I'm glad that Pascal helped out. He will probably return at some point if Silwo doesn't get to him. But Lucas is is on a mission. Now he did get the pictures. I'm glad we saw that part because at first they didn't show it. I was like, wait, he's gonna do a mission possible and just go on it. But then they show, I'm like, okay, at least show it. He did great. It's just that I didn't like how they were writing Sonny and Laura because they're both like, yeah, it's over, it's over. And Luke is like, no, it's not. He's still around, he doesn't go anywhere, he's not being taken down. Yes, he doesn't have the blackmail anymore, but he he he could come up with something else to blackmail them. I don't understand why they wrote Sonny and Laura like that, where they kind of dumbed them down a bit. I'm not sure if that's the right word. Because Jerome Hospital has to say where they dumbed down bets to make the new character seem smarter, which is what I feel like they've been doing with um Jocelyn. But I do like Sonny and Laura working together. I'm just tired of Laura being like, no, Sonny, you can't do this, you can't do that. I'm like, Laura, you stay in your lane. Sonny was staying in his lane. You know, I don't understand why she's just so against Sonny doing what he needs to do. Because you know what Sonny does. So I'm not understanding why she's like, oh no, Sonny, don't do that. It's like Laura, come on. Like he he threatening your grandson, he threatened everybody in your life. I would want him taken out too, at least lose some legs or something, do something to him. Because in prison, he will be fine in prison. He has connections.

SPEAKER_01 13:31

Well, I like how Pascal just vanished when the lights went out, when Jocelyn had knocked the power out. I like how quickly he got out of there. That was hilarious. I was like, that man wasn't playing. He was trying to he was running for his life at that point because he knew Sigwell was gonna end up getting them and you know, just shooting them and ask questions after the fact.

SPEAKER_00 13:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:52

So I was I was just cracking up at that whole scene. But yeah, that scene when Sonny walked up and knocked on the window, that was hilarious too. I like too when they were in the warehouse and Pascal tried to get up and Sonny pushed them back down. No, yeah, that was funny too. So yeah, I just I thought the writing on there was pretty like hilarious the way it was done. But yeah, I agree with you. When they said, Oh, it's over, I'm like, uh, no, it's not. Like, what are you talking about? That's just the start of trying to get closer to shutting uh Sitwell down, but it's definitely not the end of it. And Lucas, I just hope nothing ended up happening to him because he's really putting himself on the line, uh, going through all of this, and he knows how dangerous Silwell is. So he's putting it all on the line uh for Marco, basically. But I'm kind of glad to see Lucas in this role, you know, taking a hardcore stand on, you know, and standing on what he believes, and he believes in taking Silwell down. So I applaud him for doing that. But so now we got Carlum though going after Lizo. I'm not surprised because I was like, she's the only person that can take over Brit's job at this point. So I was not surprised by that when he basically grabbed her. Um I'm not shocked. But Lizo is nothing to play with. She's gonna figure out once he, you know, lock her up um in the room with Jocelyn, she's gonna figure out how to get out of there too, you know? So those two together teaming up probably be pretty good to watch, um, Jocelyn and Lizo. And um Jack, I like how he's trying to fake that he's still kind of locked in in a way, because Carlin went there and threatened Jack, like he's basically gonna take him out, you know. So I'm glad Jack is faking it. But what I hated, oh my goodness, was him telling um Nina about Carly and Valentine. I was like, oh, here we go.

SPEAKER_00 15:48

Yeah, Nina was see Nina was upset, she's such a hypocrite. Carly, Carly, why would he turn to Carly and not me? I'm like Nina, because you suck. Like anything you do, it falls apart. You couldn't even, and Jack drew. You you did Jack, and now you can't even continue to do that. Carl thinks he's still being drugged and he's not, and you're mad at Valentine turns to Carly. Well, actually, Carly turns to Valentine. I mean, it is what it is, you know. But her, you know, just barging up in Carly's house with the attitude, and Valentine's like, What do you want? I was like, dang, Valentine, cold, but I get it because Nina betrayed Charlotte, and when she hurt his daughter, nah, that's it. Yeah, so I don't blame Valentine for giving Nina the coat shoulder, but she's like, Oh, you could have came to me. No, he really couldn't have because you heard his daughter, Nina. Come on, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:54

Well, see, and she'll throw anybody under the bus. I mean anybody for willow.

SPEAKER_00 16:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:58

So I mean, he he he was right to um definitely trust Carly and not trust Nina. But yeah, I was so disappointed that Jack um ended up telling her, but he had to, because he knows that Carlum would be back and he's coming for him. So he needed Valentine to come there so he can um talk to him. And also he let Carly and Valentino, he didn't see Jocelyn nowhere. So now they're figuring out that she most likely is at um Windermere. So now they just need to get over there somehow onto that island and find out where is she exactly there, you know, at Windermere. So at least they figured that out. But yeah, Nina coming over there with the attitude and oh, I just can't believe this kind of thing. It's like, girl, you ain't been with Valentine in a long, long, long time. It's like get over yourself. But you know, I am here for Valentine and Carly all all day, every day. So I'm glad he kind of did that. And I like how Carly walked up to Valentine when he was talking to Nina too. And I thought that was like the right time to do it because Nina was kind of tripping out, so I like that. But yeah, Valentine, he's standing 10 toes down with his Carly, so it's fine.

SPEAKER_00 18:11

But my question is that okay, so Colum gets Lizo, and then who puts her in with Jocelyn? Because Cassius, I think, told Jocelyn that Column doesn't know that know that she's there. So would he know when he puts Lizo in the room that Jocelyn's in? Well, if he does, he's gonna have a lot of questions. Yeah. Because I'm like Cassius, what are you gonna do? Because supposedly Colin doesn't know that Jocelyn is there. He thinks maybe the room is empty or something.

SPEAKER_01 18:46

Well, I didn't know I didn't know Silwell was uh um aware that she was there though. So I didn't I didn't know that until the scene popped up when he pulled a gun on her.

SPEAKER_00 18:55

Well, yeah, I mean he he didn't know because when he was out, I think with Ava and Lucy, he got the phone call from I think it was Pascal, maybe because Cassius called Pascal, and I think either Pascal or Cauch has called Sitwell about it, but no one told Column though. So Sitwell Ben knew that she was there. My thing is Column doesn't know, but he could know when he put Lizo in there. Then what? What's Cassius going to say then?

SPEAKER_01 19:28

Cash is probably gonna flip a skirt because that's his mama, so now you're going after his mama. Yeah, and I like how he did come in and save Jocelyn. I thought, but see, it shows you that he's not totally the bad person here, you know? No, no, so because he did come in and he did save her life at that point, he's gonna not be happy. Did they did Column grabbed um his mom? He ain't gonna be happy with that at all. No, so it's gonna be interesting to see what he does, but he let Jocelyn know, like, stop trying to escape because it's not only your life on the line, mine is on there too.

SPEAKER_00 20:03

Yeah, and now and now Lizo. And my thing is well, like will Lisa know that's not Nathan? Will she know that's probably her twin, or maybe that's Nathan brainwash? I wonder how that I'm curious to see how they're going to write that part. Because I think it I think it might be revealed to her, or maybe Jocelyn would say something. Kingdom Jocelyn can't keep keep her mouth shut for long. I mean, we've we've seen how she done her own mother, and that had zero benefit for her.

SPEAKER_01 20:36

So So why do you so I got a question? Why do you think that um when Jocelyn was talking to Sitwell at the end there when Cassius was there? Why do you think she went, how did she say it? She said something like, Um, what did you do to Nathan or whatever? What's his name? Oh, Sidwell was like, Oh, you don't know your captive. So why do you think that she's fronting like she thinks that's Nathan? Because she knows it's not. So why do you think she's fronting with Sitwell about it?

SPEAKER_00 21:08

I think it's just to cover herself as this dumb agent. Jocelyn knows a lot. And for her to kind of stay alive, she needs to pretty much dumb herself down. If she knows way too much information, which she does, I think Sitwell probably would have paled her right there if if she said cassius. Because that's the last thing Sitwell wants for anybody to know, is that that's not Nathan, because that would have a ripple effect on everybody.

SPEAKER_01 21:40

True.

SPEAKER_00 21:41

In Port Charles. So I feel like for her, she just this dumb Asian who just, you know, wrong, wrong place, wrong time, kind of thing. And Cash is like, hey, let's let's put her over here for a little bit. Cause I I I think she may know some stuff, but Jocelyn knows everything. Everything. She knows exactly what's going on. She knows more than Jordan because Jordan has been CL side for over a year and discovered nothing. And Jocelyn, she's been on it for months. It's just that she got caught up with her arrogance and is hell captive right now. But I do hope that Jocelyn tells Lisa the truth. But I don't know. I think I feel like either way, Lisa wouldn't care.

SPEAKER_01 22:31

No, because it's still her son at the end of the day, whether it's Cassius or Nathan. So let's let's get into it with Michael. So Michael and Jacinda um setting up uh Chase and Willow. That was interesting, but I think Michael don't have to do anything at this point. I think all Michael gotta do is just sit back and just let everything unfold. Um I know he called his um P.I., I believe, um, because he just wants the pictures at this point, but he don't have to really lift a finger because I just think that they're gonna get him exactly what he needs. I like the conversation Michael had with Tracy though, to kind of let her know to probably just fall back and let Brooklyn just see um Chase for who he really is. I agree with Michael 100%. And I hope that Michael does kind of fall back and don't get caught up in it where then Brooklyn is so mad at him, and then she starts blaming him for the destruction of her marriage. It's like, no girl, Willow and Chase is the destruction of that marriage right now. So I like how Michael just was like fall back, but he needs to fall back too.

SPEAKER_00 23:37

Yeah, I feel like all Michael has to do is type his PR tape pictures and follow Willow. That's it. He has to do not the notes but pay the PI. That's all he needs to do. My thing is what's the fallout going to be of this? Because I don't want Michael to throw Brooklyn under the bus for the whole accident that Jordan and Curtis caused. I'd rather have them split because of Chase being a moron that he is. And Willow is just don't know how to be faithful to anybody. So I I'd rather Michael go down that route than to throw Brooklyn under the bus. Because Tracy's gonna be livid if he does that. Because Tracy is trying to cover for Brooklyn as much as she can. What Tracy was like, go pack your bags because you gotta go.

SPEAKER_01 24:32

Tracy, yeah, be crying.

SPEAKER_00 24:34

Yeah, and I I don't blame Tracy. It's it's her house, and you are disrespecting everybody up in there. You were all like, Oh, quarter means are this, quarter means are that, yeah. You there on a lake, you eat their food, swimming in a pool, or you use their water, yeah, you use their lights, and you have the audacity to complain to Willow, and Willow has the audacity too, because she was using their resources, their jet, their food, using all that stuff. But oh, quarter mains are just so blah. It's like whatever, y'all two belong together. Go go fly a kite somewhere. I'm so over. I'm over it. But I predicted, not sure when, but I said July. They will probably get together because July seems to be Willow's month to add the full. So I think it's gonna be by July. The fourth of July. She's gonna hook up. Yeah, I think by July they're definitely gonna hook up, and it's a matter of what's BOQ going to do. Because if I was BOQ, I will leave Chase, I will not adopt with him. I would like Alexis only me, because who was flipping the bill to pay Alexis? Brooklyn. Yeah, Chase ain't had contribute nothing but what time, if that to whole thing.

SPEAKER_01 25:56

Hold on, but then Willow even offered him a job. Okay, so that kind of got me too, because she offered Chase a job, and it's like he don't have the experience to do all of that. So it did him even thinking about it, but I mean, at least I give him credit. At least he did tell Brooklyn that Willow had put this offer on the table. But Chase should not take it. One, that your ex don't need to be working that closely with her, and then and then two, I thought he loved being a cop too. So now he's gonna do something totally different to go work with Willow, and then you gonna trust your livelihood to Willow on people. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 26:36

This I think this is the one time I wish Fent was around. Because Finn was very straightforward with Chase. He'd be like, Are you stupid? Like, what's what yeah, he was she he would call it everything out, and he just not listened to his wife or anybody about what Willow is doing. Chase just doesn't care, so he wants to go be with her. Go ahead and be with her, and then she would cheat on you yet again, with probably Michael, hopefully not, or maybe Drew, or maybe Curtis. I have no idea who was going to be next, but she has a pattern. It's like every couple of years, she with somebody else. She gets so bored so easily. My girl, oh, she gets so. Oh, yeah. Her, Nina, I uh not Lisa, because Lisa would probably take him out like Peter out in the woods somewhere. So I don't think he's gonna bud Lizo much. And if he does go after Willow and Nina, I think Lisa probably be like, Hey, y'all brought it on yourselves. Cause y'all, y'all scheming was awful.

SPEAKER_01 27:48

Right. She was like, but she told them to do better because this stuff is whack, you know. Yeah, I need to do better. If you're gonna do it, then dog gone, do it right. So I was with Lisa on that.

SPEAKER_00 27:59

Well, the one person, the other person who got on my nerves, they only showed her, I think, once or twice this week was Lulu. Now, Dante and Liz, they having this bonding chemistry moment about Rocco. And Liz said that she felt like Brett was trying to help out Rocco. And then Lulu walks in with the attitude saying, Oh, well, you pretty much did the same thing that I did. And Dante, like, no, no, I did not. I literally put it together with Liz and I came straight to you. It's like Lulu tries to justify her actions. It's like, well, you did it, so what I did is not that bad. I'm like, Lula, go sit down somewhere.

SPEAKER_01 28:38

Did you see Dante's face though? When um Liz walked in, his face kind of lit up. He's like, hey, Liz. I'm like, Oh he loves Liz.

SPEAKER_00 28:50

But that's weird together to be in competition with your uncle.

SPEAKER_01 28:55

Well, and then when Rick went to see Elizabeth when she was in the hospital after Britt had threw her in the closet, even he noticed the way she was speaking about Dante. So Rick had noticed it too. So I think Liz doesn't realize that she's probably having some feelings for him right now, but it's it's creeping in, it's it's definitely there. But yeah, the look on Dante's face when she walked into the um police station, he his face lit up. And I was like, wow, you haven't seen out on him since Sam um passed. So that's gonna be interesting to see how they do that love triangle with Rick, Elizabeth, and Dante. It's gonna be interesting.

SPEAKER_00 29:37

Yeah, it's gonna be hella messy, but hey. We here for it. We're here for it, though, right? It's a soap. So thank you everybody for listening to our take on Jerome Hospital this week. Thank you so much for your reviews. We got one recently said that our podcast is fun, but we take it very seriously. Yes, yes, we do, and we love to have fun talking about soap. So thank you so much for being here and following us. We really appreciate you. Be safe out there until next time. Bye, everyone.