Ma & Daughter Talk Daytime Soaps (General Hospital & Beyond The Gates)

Confessions and $5 | General Hospital July 6th to 10th, 2026

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Ma and Daughter (Kay) discuss the daytime soap General Hospital from July 6th to July 10th about: 

  • Rocco vs Danny
  • Danny snitches on Rocco to Jack
  • Willow, Nina and Jack need to find the black box
  • Anna is home but sees Peter
  • Liesl tells Anna about her kidnapping
  • Cassius is alive 
  • Lucas is spiraling
  • Brit is released from prison 
  • Carly, Sonny and Valentine talk
  • Valentine thanks Josslyn for getting him released
  • Carly and Lulu get into it about Charlotte 
  • Ethan and Ava bond
  • Tracy is upset with BLQ
  • BLQ tells Chase the truth that she set up Willow

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SPEAKER_00

Hi everyone, welcome to our podcast on Journal Hospital. If you are new, welcome. If you're one of our regulars, hey, and we appreciate you. So let's get started.

SPEAKER_02

All right, everybody. So first up, we got Rocco. How are we feeling about Rocco? It's like I'm on his side, and then there's some things he does. I'm not on his side anymore, especially the way he was having that smug look towards Danny talking about Jason. I was just like, oh, I'm not on your side, Rocco. So I understand like people are upset with Danny when he went to Jack and said it was Rocco Trush Collin. I was fine with Danny doing it because the way Rocco was, it was like he was so smug with Danny. But then as soon as his mother shows up, he likes he like changed his face to be all innocent. I did not like it. Am I overthinking this mom?

SPEAKER_00

No, you are not. He was very smug. Um, I didn't like it. I didn't like the statement that he made to Danny about um Rocco was like, oh, well, my dad is always there for me. And then Danny was like, oh, so mine isn't. And then he's like, You said it. I was like, oh, because you know they're supposed to be like brothers. So that was kind of rough um to hear Rocco talking to Danny like that. So I'm just like, okay, Danny, don't. I feel like he's getting kind of cocky. Well, he shot Column, and then he did the um the other thing with the college stuff. I forgot what that was about. He well, he broke in and lab, Danny and Charlotte. So he kind of got away with that too. So to me, he kind of a little bit cocky with it because he knows that his parents is gonna basically bail him out.

SPEAKER_02

Yep. Um his parents, his grandparents, Sonny and Laura.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. And instead of them kind of making him take some responsibility for stuff they're not, I understand they didn't want him to take responsibility for the whole column shooting, but at the same time, I'm like, at some point, when are they gonna hold him accountable? They could have held him accountable with the whole Brit thing and they didn't. So I to me, I see a pattern with them with Rocco where he's just getting away, getting away, getting away with stuff and them not really dealing with him on the things that he has done.

SPEAKER_02

Nope. And and and they always blame other people. Like with Rocco getting to this calling stuff is Brit. When uh Rocco decided to enter the lab, it was Gio's fault. When Rocco got drunk, it was Danny and Gio's fault. It's like they blame everybody else but their child. Your child is the main issue. And the more he gets away with stuff, the cockier he's getting. It's it's it's really bad. And if if they keep going down this path of covering Rocco, I mean I I I feel like Rocco is like Christina, just be doing stuff, very impulsive, and she knows that her parents are gonna be there to cover everything up. I feel like that's what's going on with Rocco. Lulu, Dante will always be there to cover it up. And then you also got Sonny and Laura, who's the mayor. So I I'm just like Rocco needs to be knocked down at pet, too. I was I was yelling at my screen like, Danny, punch him in the face, kick his ass. What are you doing? It's like what? I was so annoyed with that whole scene. And then when Rocco found out that Charlotte told Danny, Rocco was mad at Charlotte. I feel like Rocco was giving me that sunny vibe. Because we know how sunny is. Everybody has to be loyal to him, but he doesn't have to be loyal to you. That was the vibe I was getting. So when Danny told Jack, I was fine with it. But like Jack said, there's nothing he can really do. It won't really solve anything because Jason is still away. Now, Jason's supposed to come back this week and he looks bad. I know I'm not gonna like the storyline because What you mean he looks bad? He looks bad. I saw a photo of Jason played by Steve Burton. He looks bad, like he's wounded. So I think he might go through some PTSD, probably, maybe some mind stuff going on, maybe similar to how Anna, I'm not sure. But he looks very bad, and I'm not gonna I know I'm not gonna going to like this storyline. But Jason is supposed to be back this week. Hopefully I'm wrong, but he he don't look right, honestly. And then you got, you know, Danny did tell Charlotte that he did snitch and not people feel about snitches, but hey, gloves are all when you start going off about my parents. And Charlotte, she understood if it was her father, she would have done exactly the same thing.

SPEAKER_00

I like Charlotte, and I was glad that she gave Danny some grace on that. And I mean, Charlotte even tried to explain that to Lulu and Rocco. That you know, it's like they're forgetting that he lost his mother, he lost his father, so his father is still alive, but he's gone. Yeah, WSB has him. So it's like even Charlotte was trying to, you know, explain that to them, and they just like, yes, so what kind of thing.

SPEAKER_02

They just don't care, and it's and it's pretty sad. It's it's really sad. I mean, like, Lulu should understand she lost her father, you know, she still has a mother around, but like when if Laura was somewhere and she couldn't get to Laura, like you you'll be doing everything you could to get your mother back. So I'm not understanding why they're not having some kind of empathy for Danny. I feel I feel bad for him. If I was Danny, I would cut ties with Rocco, I would be done. You talking crap about my father like that, and you all smug, I'm done. I don't care if we so so-called brothers. That that that was gone. The moment he decided to talk crap about Jason. It's it's over.

SPEAKER_00

The one thing I do want to see for Danny's character is I hope they write it where he does have a conversation with Jason about not leaving him no matter what's going on again, not less he, you know, is unalive, then that's different. But he needs to talk to his dad about not leaving him to help other people at this point. Yeah. Um, and he needs to just explain to him that because you know he lost his mom, he's all that he has, and he just cannot deal with that, you know, not having his other parent there. He can't deal with it. And he was basically going out of his mind because he doesn't have he did he didn't have both parents. So if I was Danny, I hope that they write it where he does have a conversation with his dad about that. Like, do not leave me, not unless, you know, like you are unalive at that point, but don't ever leave me to help somebody else, Carly, whoever, do not. I need you. You put me first, kind of thing.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, Danny needs to probably go off on Jason really hard about that. Like, don't do this ever again. You've done it so many times, you missed half my life right doing this. You can't do this again. If you do it again, we're done. Yeah, that's how I would do it if I was Danny. And I kind of wish Jake was in this storyline too. I know he's somewhere in Europe or something like that, but I wish Jake was part of this too, because I think I I feel like Jake could have been there for Danny, you know, because he's pretty much kind of alone. He got Scout, but technically he's not supposed to be near a scout. So he's just fighting to have a connection to his father and his mother. And he can't be near a scout, and then you got Jake who's out of the country. So it's it's I mean, it's it's it's tough.

SPEAKER_00

And see, Danny, he's he's been through a lot, and you can't keep taking him through all of that without there not being consequences at the end of it. Because you're right, I forget sometimes that he's not able to even see Scout, and it's unfortunately because the character Drew was his father at some point. Yeah, and it's it's just amazed me that they wrote it where instead of him being a fat like a father to him, he now looks at Danny like he's the enemy, you know. Drew does, and I'm just like, dang, you know, that's just so messed up on so many levels. But he has absolutely well, he has Alexis always, because Alexis is always there and and Molly.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, Molly, yeah. So he he has his mom side, you know, the family, but Alexis, she she's been trying her best with Danny, but Danny just wants at least one of his parents back, and that's Jason. We're supposed to see him sometime this week, so we shall see with that whole storyline. Next up, we got Willow and Nina. There's just a bunch of scheming people, especially Willow. And of course, you know, Jack lets him know that the black box is gone. Colin took it wherever, probably at Windermere. And I wonder what else is in this black box. Like maybe Jocelyn taking out Cyrus or some other stuff that's in there. Because you know, if Willow and Nina find that black box and they see what's in it, you know they're gonna be framing other people. I'm not going to like that. I'm so tired of Willow getting the upper hand on stuff. She's been at this for a long time, and there's hasn't really been any consequences, especially her moving Daisy. She still has got no consequences of that. And Liz better watch it. Cause Willow is looking at Liz like, I'm girl, I'm gonna take you out. But you know what? I'm fine with that. I feel like Liz needs a storyline. She hasn't had one in what, two, three years, maybe?

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm. It's been a while.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so I I I don't know. I mean, Liz Liz is on it, but Drew is starting to move his hand, so maybe he'll start talking. He'll start talking probably in a week or so. We'll probably see him talking. I wonder what his first words are going to be.

SPEAKER_00

Well, you know what? I now that they change, I told you, now that they change the character Willow, I'm liking this side of her. And, you know, I'm I'm liking it. Um, she's more entertaining to watch. So hopefully they don't get rid of the character. They might sideline her like they kind of did Drew for a little bit, but I hope they don't get rid of the character Willow. So they gotta figure out how they're gonna, you know, I think write her to be able to keep her on because I'm liking this side of her.

SPEAKER_02

Well, they should do what they did to Neil. They show her in prison, put her in prison for a little bit. I'm fine with that. I'm just tired of her getting away with so much stuff, and then she's like, I'm innocent, I'm this, I'm I'm misperfect. I'm just like, Willie, you you you kind of suck. However, she's doing good at her job, unlike Drew. She is trying to do things for the people, which I like. I just don't like this whole her getting away with shooting Drew and then she drugged him, and if she moved Daisy, that that really pissed me off was her moving Daisy and gaslighting Sasha and then her blaming Michael, saying that he's the one that should be. It's it's just those things. I'm like, can't somebody please like put her under the bus for a little bit, you know.

SPEAKER_00

I think she'll get there eventually. It just depends on how the writers write it. But yeah, she's gonna have to kind of take responsibility for what she did to Drew because he's not gonna be in the locked-in syndrome, he's not gonna be like that much longer. No, um, so she's gonna have to probably at some point do you know pay for shooting him in the back twice. But as far as moving Daisy, to me, they should have had her have like a breakdown because she kind of did, and then they could have dealt with her shooting Drew plus deal with the whole her moving Daisy. But with the whole thing with Daisy, they they had no proof because even Michael said that he said he has no proof of that. Yeah, that's his gut that's telling him that that they can't put on her. But I kind of was hoping back then they would have wrote her where she had a kind of breakdown, went away, and then then they have brought her back and she was fine. Because to me, it would have been justified everything that she did. Now it's not because she's living her life, she's drugging Drew, which is even worse now. You know, so I I don't know. I just I don't know how they're gonna do Willow. I just hope they don't take her off. That's that's my thing. They're gonna sideline her, yeah, put her in prison so we can see her, you know, or put her in Shaded Brook or whatever, so but we still can see her from time to time. That's so yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Well, one of the the things I didn't like that they wrote was Michael. Michael said that Daisy had her first birthday. Why weren't you there, Michael? You could have flown out there with the kids to see your daughter's first birthday. I didn't like how they wrote that whole thing.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, because uh yeah, I'm with you. I don't even think he FaceTime her. Did he FaceTime her or he just saw the picture? I think he just saw a video and photos. Okay, yeah. Um, it would have been nice if he had either gone out there or at least they could have showed him maybe FaceTiming her, you know, something like that. Like happy birthday, baby girl, or you know, something like that. Yeah, just something.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but I don't like how they writing him to kind of be like a dead be dad.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, because he's nothing of a dead be dad, not at all.

SPEAKER_02

He's not like that. So I am not liking that writing. Maybe they need to recast Sasha to come back or just bring the baby back, like hey, you know, Sasha had to go and do something because her dad isn't well, which they can write, and he got Daisy for a little bit. Something.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_02

Do something. Michael is not a dead big father. So, writers, try to do better on that. Don't be changing characters like you do in some people. We we will talk about that later. Well, next up, we got Lucas telling Britt that she never had Huntings ends. Kelly did great in this scene, she was livid because everything she did for the past what two or three years was for nothing. And people were unalive because of this, including Marco, and Lucas just realized that when he was talking to Ava, like Marco died for nothing, and it sucks. And I I feel sorry for Lucas, but at the same time, I'm like, whatever. No, I I feel bad for Brit. Britt and Joe talked about the Saline stuff, and she cleared up everything. He's like, okay, all right, goodbye. It's like what? So she's she's free. Lucky for her, but she's broke. And Joe gave her five dollars. I'm like, what the hell can you do with five dollars nowadays, Joe?

SPEAKER_00

You can you can't even buy a bag of potato chips nowadays with five dollars, and then he had the audacity to say, pay me, you could pay me back. What? I don't know what she's gonna do. If I was her, I would just go to Nina.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, Nina got bank. I'll go like, hey, can you get me a room or can I stay here with you or give me a room at the Metro Court or something? And and I feel like Nina will do it, just help her out. I she she'd be like, Yeah, sure. But the thing is, what's Brick gonna do? Because German High School may not want her back again.

SPEAKER_00

They shouldn't even take her back. They have taken her back so many times, it is ridiculous. And I I think they need to have her move on and do something else, start her own practice, go work for a free clinic, something, because them constantly taking her back, it's just not realistic, it's just not real. So I'm if they take her back, I'm just like, mm-hmm, yes, assault. Because in real life, then mm-mm, no.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, no, no, no. And did you feel like there was chemistry between Joe and Britt?

SPEAKER_00

I did, I did, but I don't want them together.

SPEAKER_02

Why not?

SPEAKER_00

Because I'm hoping he's actually for Lucas, because him and Lucas kind of be vibing.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, he can swing both ways.

SPEAKER_00

True that, but that's what Christina did.

SPEAKER_02

She's been with guys, she's been with ladies, he can swing both ways. I'm fine with that, I have no issue with that. I think I think it would be different.

SPEAKER_00

Well, it'd definitely be something, but yeah, as it's I either one, like you said, it's it's okay. Uh, you know, it wouldn't bother me. But I I when they show him with Lucas, I was getting that vibe right there. But when I did see him with Brit, it was chemistry there. I thought it was funny when he did hand her the five dollars. And she's looking like, are you serious? So yes, they do have chemistry. But yeah, if they did it where he was bisexual, it wouldn't bother me. Not not at all.

SPEAKER_02

Nah, nah. I think it'd be fun to watch if he were with Lucas for a moment and then went with Brit. All right, well, next up we got Carly and Valentine. You know, they all in the kitchen, smooching kissy faces, and Sonny walks in. The audacity of Sonny being like, oh, Keith's dangerous, Sonny, aren't you? What? Like, what's going on? The one part I was a bit like really Carly was when Sonny told Carly about Valentine messing with his meds. And Carly was just like, okay, Carly, seriously? He was messing with the father of your kids medicine. Like that ain't right, you know. So I I have mixed feelings about Carly's reaction to it. What were your thoughts on it?

SPEAKER_00

I love the scene with Carly and Ballotina at the hospital when they ran to each other and they kissed, they were slabbing each other down. I love the expression on Sunny's face, like, ugh, what's going on? And then the shock and awe with Lulu, and then um Charlotte was looking like, really, you know, so I like that whole scene. As far as the whole thing where Carly, Sonny, and Valentine, Carly does have to be careful because I understand that she's feeling Valentine and he is feeling her, but Valentine was feeling Anna too at some point, and he kind of betrayed her at some point and kind of threw her under the bus with the whole Pikeman thing, even the Charlotte thing when that came up with her stalking Anna. So Valentine, you know, I love me some Valentine, love him, the character a lot. But Carly does need to tread lightly um because Valentine could love her one moment and hurt her the next, really, really bad. Um, so I I like them together, but this week that did kind of give me pause. Um, it's Valentine's history because you know, I like me some Carly. I don't want to see her get hurt. That character has been through a lot with different men. I just want to see her get her happily ever after with somebody. And I think Valentine can do that as long as he doesn't turn on her. And that's my concern is that something going down, he'll throw her under the bus.

SPEAKER_02

I feel like he wouldn't throw her under the bus. I think he would throw Jocelyn there because Jocelyn is still WSB. She's gonna do what she's gonna do. And Valentine went there to thank her, and Jocelyn and Carly are very alike, they don't want their mother or their daughter to be in something yet. They meddle. And for Jocelyn to see and send a Valentine to talk to Anna, I'm like, Jocelyn, come on, like, what what are you doing?

SPEAKER_00

And I I feel like uh that's that's so messy. Yeah, because she sent Valentine. I understand because she don't want her mom with Valentine. Because Valentine is a dangerous person. Um, you can't really trust him. But Jocelyn was wrong for that, um, to do that to her mom. But I guess that's her way of showing her mom that she loves her mom because she just she knows that her mom shouldn't be with Valentine. So I understand why she's doing it, but it's kind of like down and dirty for her to do her mom like that. But a part of me gets it, and then I'm like, mm-mm.

SPEAKER_02

She's just like her father, Jax. He be doing stuff like that too. It's like, oh yeah, it's like, oh, I do some illegal stuff, but nobody else can do, and and I'm gonna blame Sonny for everything. I just I I just don't like that. And then we got the Carly and Lulu stuff going on. I understood both points of view. I was laying more on Carly though, because Lulu is doing the most. Volunteer and Ray told her, look, either you and I get along, or our daughter is gonna choose me. And that's that he's like, you are the problem, so figure it out. And Carly pretty much told her the same thing. Lulu is just hard headed, she would not listen, she won't understand Charlotte and her love for her father. It's like, didn't you love Luke? Like, don't you understand that you have a bond with your father? So why can't Charlotte have that too? Your father was just as dangerous as well.

SPEAKER_00

My thought about that is um Lulo she took controlling. These kids are just about grown, both of them. And I just feel like she needs to stop being controlling and set up a relationship with her kids that they can come to her and tell her anything and trust her, that she won't flip out and then start trying to tell them who they can and cannot see. Valentine, the way his life has been, and probably in the direction that it might go in the future, it's just gonna always be trouble. So it doesn't matter if Charlotte is with him or not. The enemies that he has can come at Charlotte at any time. And at least if Valentina is around, he would lay down his life to protect her. So trying to keep them separated and all that, I think it's just a waste of time. Because look at what happened. Valentine was gone, and the guy came after her, and Danny stopped it. So she's gonna always be some kind of target. My thing is that y'all need to be teaching her some self-defense classes, you know, because y'all know that some of his enemies is gonna come at her when she's able to carry, get her train on how to carry, you know, and stuff like that, so she'll be able to. But it's like get her to give her the um equip her so that she's ready for Valentine's enemies to come. But to try to think that you're gonna cut off that relationship, it's not gonna happen. And I don't blame Charlotte if she sides with her dad. That's who she bonded with as a baby, and she could be mad about that. She went off on Valentine. Oh, well, you kept her from me. Yeah, he was wrong to do that, but you're in the future right now, and this kid is almost an adult, so get out the past, you're in the future and deal with what's in front of you. She is not gonna cut ties with her dad, not at all. So I don't know what Lulu thinking that she's gonna have this power over Charlotte to stop Charlotte from seeing Valentine. It's not gonna work, it's just gonna push Charlotte away from her, which is what she don't want. So instead of doing that, she needs to take Carly advice, and then she's going off on Carly, like, well, who are you to basically parent me? Uh, she knows what she's talking about, though. So Carly, yeah, she ain't perfect. She made mistakes for her kids, but she's trying to help Lulu and let her know like you're not giving her a safe place to come talk to you.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, same and she's not same thing with with um Rocka. Rocka kept going to Brit because Lulu is just she's very controlling, she's setting her ways. Lulu is just gonna have to learn the hard way. I don't feel sorry for her. All right, well, we also got Anna's homecoming, which was nice to see everybody, and she's still seeing Peter, and Peter is saying something something about revenge. Revenge on who, though? Because Cassius is allegedly unalive, and we saw him, he's fine, he's gonna be working for the WSB for a bit. But who is Peter talking about revenge on?

SPEAKER_00

I don't know. I was wondering that because it's not Lizo, because Lizo came to see her, and then Lizo did talk to Anna and let her know that it's it wasn't in her head, and that Jocelyn and her was at the same room as she was in over at Windermere. Glad that Lizo at least helped Anna with that, you know, to you know, explain that to her. But I I'm like, I don't know, not unless it's um Valentine. But why Valentine? I mean the Pikeman stuff, maybe, but that's old. So I don't know who Peter was talking about. It's gonna be interesting to see who she's supposed to get revenge on.

SPEAKER_02

I'm not sure. I can't know how to be because Colum is gone. Yeah, Cassius is gone. Jack wasn't involved in anything about it. There's Sidwill, because I think Sidwell knew she was there. Cassius didn't know till after she was gone. I don't know who she wants revenge on in particular. I don't think she needs to be commissioned right now because Dante was like, I'm ready to give her everything back. Dante is over it.

SPEAKER_00

He sure is.

SPEAKER_02

I don't blame him though. He's he's been through a lot. And I don't know what's going on with Anna. But I can see Anna and maybe Jason trauma bonding a bit. I'm just gonna put it out there. They have kissed before, so it's very possible.

SPEAKER_00

The person that plays Anna um is a very good actress because when you look at her, you you can tell something's off with her. And the way that she plays her her character is it's just it's something to watch. She's really good. Because when I look at the character, I'm just like, oh you know, you can tell something's really off. She she's good, she's really good. Yeah, she's probably she's probably one of the better um actresses that's on there because I can never really tell like what's going on with her. Even when she played her twin, it was hard to know. Was it her? Was it the twin? I mean, she does such a phenomenal job at it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, Fiona Huge, it's the OG. Well, next up, we got Martin's back, and you know, Laura feels a man, like, yeah, that client dies from Sith. Well, and he's like, whatever, I don't care. But she convinces him to represent Curtis. Honestly, guys, I fast for it, Curtis and Jordan is scene because it's the same old thing. I was provoked, it's all Isaiah's fault, blah, blah, blah. We all know it was Jordan's fault. Let's be real. All right. And Martin did tell Curtis, you know, like, yeah, you trying to blame Isaiah doesn't make any sense. Like, come on. I really hope he goes in prison for a little bit. I don't care if he missed the first few months of his child's life. That's on him. That's the that's the consequences of your actions. And I did like that Rick is gonna represent Isaiah. I'm looking forward to Martin versus Rick. I think that'll be good because Isaiah's gonna win. All he has to do is ask Lulu to step forward as a witness, and she would say, Yeah, around this time he was with me. And she doesn't even have to say that he was treated in Rocco, she could just be like, Yeah, I mean, we're friends through my brother Lucky, you know, like he was over there and something, you know, just just just something like that. If she don't want people to know about the Rocco column situation, either way, he was over there. And then you know, Curtis can be like, Well, Lulu, why didn't you step forward? And Louis will be like, Why should I step forward about this? Like, come on, man. So I I hope Rick mops the floor with Martin and Curtis. I'm looking forward to it.

SPEAKER_00

Well, Curtis, he's he's nuts because he he um, I mean, Martin tried to tell him though, too, that he's he's taking a big gamble with going through with this trial and the direction that Curtis wants to go in because he can end up getting um, I think he said 10 years, where the plea deal right now, he would do, I think two years probation, I think it's eight months in prison. And Curtis is like, no, absolutely not. The kikiness that Curtis has is gonna end up being his um demise before it's over with. And I didn't like Curtis um bringing up Michael either.

SPEAKER_02

Michael doesn't have any friends, he can't trust nobody, right? She can't trust nobody. Everybody's trying to be always backstabbing Michael. Michael's not been friendly, he's he's open-minded, he don't judge you, and here comes somebody trying to backstab him. I'm like, Michael, just don't have any friends. All right, damn.

SPEAKER_00

And I it's and if he tries to bring Michael into it, I hope Michael be done with Curtis at that point. But he was bringing that up to Jordan, like Michael could have framed Willow because of the whole custody thing and all that stuff that they've been going through. And I'm just like, wow, Curtis, like Michael has always had your back, and and now you think your Michael could have did it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, true, but it's other quartermains, you know, because yeah, there's other people involved in this, it's not just Michael. Yeah, Michael can't stand her, but he's not trying to get his hands dirty, he's trying to look for dirt, not get his hands dirty. Like, come on, I was like, Curry's full of it. I'm so tired. And then Joria, you know, the usual enabling herself. Oh man, I I fast for it. I already know she enabled his behavior, and then got Jordan scene and said, Well, I felt a little bit mixed feelings because all she had to do was go to a different country, get some money, and she could have got her face fixed. At the same time, she could have just talked to Michael or Ava about getting her face fixed.

SPEAKER_00

So well, it's gonna be money though, because she don't have probably the money, and that's why Sidwell was offering it to her because he was like, um, it's very expensive to go to that place that Michael went to, you know, to get himself treated. Um, Jordan doesn't have money like that. Ava did it because remember, Ava has money, but Jordan doesn't. So that's how I was surprised when she turned it down too. Because I'm like, you have to get the money and then you can get your face sick. She might change that because as she thinks about everything Sidwell was saying to her, which was kind of bad because he was kind of dogging her out. Yeah, but yeah, he he was rough, but um, she might change her mind, it's it's my thought, and she might end up going through with it. She's telling him no now, but she might change her mind when she really you know sit on what he was saying, and she might end up doing it. The thing of it is that that might mess up Curtis because Martin told Curtis they might win because they can use Jordan to get up there the way she looks now. But see, Jordan might not like being used in that way either. Yeah, so it's gonna be yeah, so we'll see how that's gonna play out.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I don't know. I don't care too much about it. I just want Curtis in prison for like a year, and we can see him and maybe Willow bonding in prison. I have no idea, I don't care anymore. Right. Next up we got Ethan and Ava. How sweet they are. There's some hot chemistry. I was not expecting this Ethan, Ava bonding going on, but you know, Ava told him, like, hey, I heard you're not the father of Phoebe, and Ethan tried to warn her. I don't know how it's gonna go. Do you think Ava's gonna blow Ethan's, I guess, cover up?

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm. I do because I think she's curious and she wants to know. And by him not telling her more details about it, yeah. I think she's gonna probably start snooping around and try to figure it out.

SPEAKER_02

Unfortunately. But it could be the new character, the new character that's supposed to come on soon. He could be the father of Phoebe. Who knows? Well, speaking of Phoebe, we got this impossible maybe stepmother, Willow versus Tracy. And Willow and Tracy, they're funny, they're going off on each other because neither one of them are really that great. But I'm always team Tracy though over Willow. But when Willow said, Oh, you're the one who frightened me, Tracy put it together. It's like, oh, I ain't do it, but I know somebody who can. And the way Tracy went off on BOQ, especially about Lucy calling her a bird, and everything, that was funny. But Tracy was right, Lucy kind of did throw BOQ under the bus. And that whole scene, it was hard to watch. And I've read a lot of comments because I know mom has said this a few episodes ago about how pathetic B.O.Q. is. More people are saying that this week, how pathetic she is, pretty much begging Chase to see her point of view and to understand her. And Chase's whole thing was, you did this to Willow. And now Brooklyn's like, that's all you cared about. It's like, yes, Brooklyn. That's what Michael was trying to tell you. That's what Tracy was trying to tell you. Everybody trying to tell you. He is, I mean, we we saw it last week when Joel went to see Willow. He kept looking over at Willow's direction and not focusing on BOQ and Phoebe. BOQ, how much more do you need to realize that this is not worth a fight? And honestly, stop the adoption process. You can adopt it because I sure as hell know Chase hasn't paid a dime to Alexis' fees.

SPEAKER_00

It's really sad to watch her go through this because she risked everything. She gave up what 50% of her shares to Lucy Call to try to do this scheme because of her husband and the whole Willow thing. Ridiculous. And then she now had a falling out. I mean, Tracy's gonna forgive her, she loves her, but still, now you had a falling out with Tracy about this, too. So that's number two. Now you got Phoebe in the middle of this mess, and so you trying to adopt her, and now you got this mess going on with Willow and Chase. I think that she needs to sit down and search her soul, and she needs to go ahead and kick Chase out of the house and say, you know what? I was wrong. I should not have set Willow up. I want you gone because you clearly love her and not me. And I will adopt Phoebe on my own. The problem she's gonna have is Chase might fight her now because he has something on her that she did that's illegal, her and Lucy. So I don't know what he's gonna do. I want to see what he's gonna do with that information. So because he's such, you know, a gun by the book, right? So he might throw Will, um, he might throw BLQ under the bus because he's he got a job to do. I I just want to see is he gonna cover for her or what is he gonna do? And then he might run straight to Willow, oh yeah, knowing him and be like, Willow, she set you up, blah blah blah, and then Willow's gonna be noted. And then when Willow gets like that, she is bad. You gotta watch your back with her.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. It's it was a hot mess from the beginning. Her doing the scheme and stuff did absolutely nothing. There was no good outcome for her. And the one thing I'm first share with Brooklyn is that she didn't really talk to Chase. She kept saying, Oh, it's okay, Chase. Go ahead and talk to her. Go ahead. It's okay. I'm good. No, be be mad, get angry, let him know you are upset about this. And if he can't see it, be like, okay, then we're gonna have to separate and get some couples counseling. She could have done a totally different route. Because Chase still is not getting it, and that's why Michael brought it up months ago to Chase. How long until you and Willow's bed? Because Michael saw it months ago that that was the path that it was going down towards. And the thing is that Michael kind of does have blackmail on Chase. So even if Chase tries to blackmail BOQ, Michael has something on Chase, and that's some seeing each other at the um park, and they were kind of close and hugging. All Michael got to say is, I have pictures of you and Willow at night. That would look back for Willow, wouldn't it?

SPEAKER_00

Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Chase wouldn't win life, because everything, everything, everything is about Willow. Willow this, Willow, that. So he wouldn't do it. As long as you know, Michael is involved in it, Chase wouldn't do it. He would hate Michael as more than he already does with his chip on his shoulder. But I think uh with Michael having those photos, I don't think Chase would do it.

SPEAKER_00

But you know what? I agree with you though. She should have had talked to him. I mean, to me, she didn't even have to go through all of this and try to frame her. She just should have had an honest conversation with Chase about Willow. And and the whole pool scene that you mentioned, in real time, when she was sitting there watching him looking at Willow, she should have been snapping her fingers in his face, like, hey, yo, yo, yo, is there a problem? Because you're supposed to be focused on me and you focus on her. And Phoebe sitting here too. So it's like she should have been clocking him every step of the way on that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And just calling him out. And she would.

SPEAKER_02

She would. She she I agree with Tracy. Not there's been no woman on either side who would cave down to a man. That's what she's doing. And it's very hard to see Brooklyn, who's this sassy, feisty person, almost begging.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, because she was pulling on him.

SPEAKER_02

A piece of a POS like Chase, who've been gaslighting her all these months about Willow, begging her. It was it was hard to watch. So I hope that Brooklyn goes off and be like, you know what, get out. I really hope she does that. But I think what's gonna happen is Chase's gonna go off on her and he's he's gonna move out. I think that's what's gonna happen. And then where is he gonna go?

SPEAKER_00

Well, and see what he's gonna do as will it. And see what he's gonna do is he's gonna blame blame her. And that's the part that's gonna really get under my skin because in the end, if he moves out, now he he has an excuse to now blame her. And then she's gonna be feeling like, oh, it's my fault. No, it's not, no, it's not. And I hope they write it where they wake her up. So when we see it next week, I hope that she has like that, you know, wake-up call and she's like, wait a minute. And she does put him out and she doesn't let him try to gaslight her like it's her fault. It's not her fault. She shouldn't have been scheming and whatnot behind his back. But at the end of the day, he's almost having this mental affair with Willow. Yeah, emotional, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Emotional affair with her. I really wish Lois was around because she probably would have gone off on Brooklyn, like Brookie. What are you doing? You know, it's like, come on. I I think we're all like Brooklyn. What are you doing? Let him go so you could be with Phoebe. If he's on the adoption papers, you know Willow is gonna be around Phoebe with her crazy self, right? And I would not want that for Phoebe.

SPEAKER_00

Well, you know what? Where is Olivia? Because even Olivia probably has been going off about all this stuff, too, if she knew about it.

SPEAKER_02

Who cares about Olivia? She be throwing Michael under the bus about anything, she be wishy-washy about everything. Forget Olivia. I need Lois, I need her mother, I need her grandmother involved in this. Olivia is so wishy-washy about so where's Ned? Shouldn't Ned be seeing this stuff? Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_00

If Ned was Ned going off, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

We need Ned on here. Can Ned be like, uh, Chase, what are you doing? Like, oh yeah, come on. And he'd be like, Brooklyn, what are you doing? Like, why are you doing all this for a guy? Like, let it go. Right. She keeps being like, No, I need to fight for my marriage. It's it ain't worth fighting when someone is dipping out already.

SPEAKER_00

Right. He got his toe out.

SPEAKER_02

He got his, he got half his body out of it. Say half the body, right? What's the point? And then he's gonna be gaslighting her, and he'd be like, Well, then I'ma leave. Go ahead and leave then. Sorry, loser. Oh, my blood pressure up. All right, everybody. Well, that's her take for German hospital this week. Thank you very much for listening. Following, we really appreciate you. Enjoy your week until next time.

SPEAKER_00

Bye, everybody.