Ep. 35: Stateside w/ Victoria Dühring

We bounce from small-town Uvalde life into big questions about politics, technology, and what people really owe their community. Victoria Duran joins us to talk about running for Uvalde County judge, taking criticism in public, and staying grounded after the votes are counted. 
• sponsors, breakfast talk, and catching up after travel 
• car lot licensing progress, old vehicles, and why new tech feels intrusive 
• trucking rates, cargo theft stories, and how fast rumors become “truth” online 
• language gaps, Europe travel culture, and AI translation glasses in the real world 
• school bond drama, budget trouble, and what close votes do to public trust 
• policing expectations, DPS stops, and frustration with government efficiency 
• campaign life with Victoria, from background and motivations to voter perception 
• losing with grace, supporting the winner, and holding leaders accountable 
• precision rifle shooting and PRS basics, costs, wind, and local match access 
• privacy, surveillance, geofencing ads, and the trade between convenience and freedom 
If you want to drop me a line, go to stephenmcnew.com and you can email me. 

Transcript

Banter Sponsors And Breakfast

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And we're back. What's up, McNew? Shout out. We're back. We're back.

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It's been a couple weeks.

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You went out to the land of white people.

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Um, yes, and it's been diluted.

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Diluted? You mean diluted? Diluted. Why? What's the difference between diluted and diluted? Diluted is like you're confusing someone, or you're confused. Like you're delusional. You're confused if you think it's full of white people.

SPEAKER_02 0:25

Oh. It has been diluted. Oh.

SPEAKER_04 0:29

Well, Alex made it seem like it was just a bunch of white people up there.

SPEAKER_02 0:32

Uh there were some towns that we went to that now the immigrant population is between 40 and 50%. Oh, really? Which is but super significant. And and like the main cities would still have like a 20% makeup. And I guess essentially, like, if you lived in Uvalde and like one in five people were not born in Uvalde, that would seem like a lot. Maybe that is what the ratio is. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 1:00

But I feel like most people here are wouldn't that be 20%? Yeah. Okay. So yeah, imagine we had like 20% like Africans. That would be a uh change. They would all be like, let's all live together in this one little area. Oh, I thought you're doing like Native American. Oh, no, it's in Lion Kingdom. Oh, okay. That's what I was asking my dad. I'm like, what's a uh what's Wemba Nyama's dad's name? Isn't it Simba?

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I was in jug. I thought that was nice. Dude, those Poto Pinch Spurs people were honking all over town last night. Babosos.

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They went all over uh chick, they were by Chick uh Golden Chick just honking. Can you wear a horn out?

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I think you can. If you can, they may do it in San Antonio. Oh my god. Shout out to our sponsors, Ziggy's Taxiderm. Shout out, Ziggy. Ruby's Lounge. We got some Ruby swag dropped off here not too long ago. Got it, got it out, got the merch.

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Thank you, Renee, and Dakota, of course. The two hardest working people in Uvalde. I'm I'm standing by that.

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There you go.

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How do they fit it all in one day? Is what I want to know.

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We'll have to have them on sometime.

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Yeah.

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SPEAKER_04 2:39

We just had breakfast. We did. I had three tacos. I had two. After we had a huge dinner last night.

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I was like, can I eat? Uh yeah, I can. That's when I woke up and you're like, you want to go to breakfast? I

Car Lot License And Old Trucks

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was like, man, we had that big dinner last night. I was like, okay. I'm I'll still go to breakfast. Let's just do it. Let's just do it. And you'll quit. So uh we're getting really close to the car lot being going. Are we? The state has at least acknowledged the fact that I fucking exist. Yeah. Uh so uh hopefully the uh license is uh getting pretty close in the queue at the old printing.

SPEAKER_04 3:15

Do you get like a bit like a graduation or do you get like a diploma?

SPEAKER_02 3:18

I'm gonna have a graduation celebrate. I'm gonna put uh a shoe polish on my car and streamers. I'm gonna drive around honking. Go, old G go. Go, old G. Yeah. Where's up, Brad Ou? You need like an old G vehicle, like all decked out. Like maybe oh wrapped, maybe. Yes, and but if you do uh like a promotional vehicle, you you have to pay tax title and license and registration. It can't be part of your dealer inventory to drive with dealer tags. Interesting enough.

SPEAKER_04 3:47

That sounds ridiculous.

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Yeah, but I I do agree. I think it would be cool to have something uh wrapped for maybe that blue truck, that blue Chevy. So yeah, maybe. I don't know. Maybe I don't know. We shall see.

Trucking Money Rates And Road Tales

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I'm stuffed. Um brought to the brim. I think you need to get one of these trucker wives. I'm not getting any wives, I'm getting a husband. There's there's a there's uh hashtag trucker couples uh on Instagram, yeah, and it's all these people, and they're just spending every hour of the day together and bunking up and I knew two people like that did that, and then they're divorced now. One guy's got a Russian male order bride, and she's like hot, and she's just like cooking Campbell soup cans on a plate while he's driving, making him gulash in the crock pot.

SPEAKER_04 4:37

Yeah, oh fuck that sounds awesome, actually.

SPEAKER_02 4:39

If Diesel goes up another 35 cents, he's gonna be pimping her out at a loves. But yeah, right now that it's they're in love. It's expensive, dude. I don't know how they're doing it.

SPEAKER_04 4:48

I think they're just paying more per mile. Right now is the time to get into trucking.

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They said right now, if you have a reefer because of the harvests going on in California, that the rates to get out of there are 15 to 18 grand.

SPEAKER_04 5:01

I'm assuming that's going to the East Coast. I know a guy did in Florida, he did meat, and uh he would make like 20,000 a load. Not he would he would not net that, but he would yeah, he was charged that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:12

Uh what the the pincha hontavirus just died, huh?

SPEAKER_04 5:16

Did it? Oh yeah, it's not around. I think it's re it was spreading human to human, but uh, you had to be very close to someone.

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And when I was in Germany, they had somebody hit Ebola or some shit. Oh, I bet. Well, those immigrants, but it was an American. Oh, but you probably got it from an immigrant. Yeah, I don't know. But then it's like nobody cares. Like, unless like there's zombies, unless it we're at the point that people are so just numb to all this news that unless it's literally the walking dead and there's a fucking zombie biting your arm, no one cares. I do, I don't care. Do you care? I don't care. No, like if they came on and be like, hey, there's a the the real COVID is here. I'm changing the channel before they finish the sentence.

SPEAKER_04 5:59

I thought Victoria's talking about the uh new world screwworm.

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Uh yeah. I thought that when they were like NWS popped out 28 miles west of Eagle Pet. I thought it meant uh new white settlement.

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I thought it was new, I thought it was like New World Order like from the wrestling days.

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Oh my gosh. Being just screw worm. But we've already whipped it once, but I think they're I I think the people that we have in charge of everything are more incentivized to like cause chaos because that's where opportunity comes.

SPEAKER_04 6:28

I've seen where they just spray the cows with some chemical and it the flies stay off them.

SPEAKER_02 6:32

Yeah, there's a lot of stuff you can do, but we'll guess. You have to be proactive. Nah.

SPEAKER_04 6:37

I saw a guy spraying though. Yeah. So we're doing a little bit. A little bit. Maybe not enough. A little bit. So do we know it in cattle ranchers around Taggy Valde?

SPEAKER_02 6:46

Yeah, we do.

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We do. Yeah, we do want to name them or no?

SPEAKER_02 6:48

Uh no. Okay. No. I mean, I don't really know them that way, you know. Yeah, but I think that's a feel on I mean, they raise them too. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 7:00

It's not important. Not for our show.

SPEAKER_02 7:04

I mean, I don't really I wouldn't say I know anyone that's like only in the cattle business. I know I think you gotta be in like you gotta do like ten things. Like that can be one of the things you do. Like if you're only in the cattle business, like you won't be there long because it's like pretty volatile. It's like corporate or no, it's like they may be worth a lot, they may not be worth much. Like you you gotta have a regular something else. I think the way I understand it. It's gotta be a side hustle. Yeah. No, I mean it can be the main thing, but you but then you might need 10 side hustles with it.

SPEAKER_04 7:34

Oh, okay. Does that make sense? No, but yeah, well, you don't you need like you need like 10 Renees and 10 Dakotas up there doing it. There you go. There you go. Um I we miss I missed we missed their fucking opening for their patio. Well, I was in Germany. I know. I was dog tired. I had worked all day and then I went out to the shop, worked on my scout.

SPEAKER_02 7:56

Looks like they're doing I think they're doing great. They did great.

SPEAKER_04 7:59

My sister went and sat at our table.

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Oh, nice.

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With her uh friends and whoever, and uh they had a great time. They loved it.

SPEAKER_02 8:06

That's awesome. I'm glad that there's somebody sociable in your family that's got friends. I'm happy to hear that. I don't need friends, bud. Who needs friends when you got your own brain? Uh I was like yesterday, I was like, man, I really enjoyed hanging out with Ox. And then this morning by like 8 15, I was like, I like to strangle this son of a bitch. It's ruined my day.

SPEAKER_04 8:23

Over the dumbest thing, too. It's just like, I think I was thinking about this one way. I'm not ruining your day. You're ruining your day. I'm choosing to allow.

SPEAKER_02 8:32

I agree with that.

SPEAKER_04 8:33

You're not choosing, it's like in your head, like it's ingrained in you that you need to be upset.

SPEAKER_02 8:37

I when you don't need to be. I like to say that to people. I was like, oh no, you've decided to be upset. And that's true, no. Shout out, Alex. Uh dude, have you you probably haven't been to an airport in a while? No, I haven't. But there's like every time I'm at an airport the past couple months, there's always one fucker like riding around on a carry-on suitcase. Oh, they do they've got them like motorized now. That was kind of fun. It does. What if that's the future of the world? Like, we're all just like if you need a car, you're getting an Uber, and other than that, you're just sitting on your like belongings in a carry-on suitcase cruising around town.

SPEAKER_04 9:18

Well, imagine like in the 50s, they were like, We're gonna have flying cars like the Jetsons, and now we have like queers and suitcases riding them like their little ponies.

SPEAKER_02 9:25

Yeah, that's reality. Yeah. Uh I want if anyone's looking to they're like, you know what, I'd like to get Steven a really nice gift. I think I would like to. I would draw those like probably like $2,000. I think they're like $500. Oh, well, then that's not bad. But uh, it's gotta be it's gotta hold like 50 pounds of luggage or 40 pounds plus me, which is so it needs to be like um 250, 300 pound weight less. Really? Yeah, yeah, maybe. But I think it would.

SPEAKER_04 9:54

Oh, yeah. They had make those little uh like creepers for under your car, those wheels they hold 350. Easy. Facile way. Uh what else, bud? I don't know. I'm just kind of just zoned out from all these galleries, bud. Oh,

Languages Immigration And AI Translation

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gallery and I think people have been missing our show. Chunk's been missing missing us.

SPEAKER_02 10:13

I've been missing the people, man. I've been ready to get in here.

SPEAKER_04 10:17

Can we talk about Joe Tom? Let's do it. Uh, you hired his son.

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Oh, well, that's not news. I mean, he hadn't even started yet, but shout out Joe Tom.

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Shout out Parker Hay B. He's a he's a fan of ours, too. That's why I wanted to mention it. Oh, there we go. He's a good kid. I don't know how old he is, but he's a good kid. Yeah. I he uh his hit you have you gave him his first job. Joe Tom gave me my first job.

SPEAKER_02 10:39

Oh, look at that. Yeah, we got the whole circular economy going on. Kind of weird. I like that.

SPEAKER_04 10:45

I forgot Joe Tom gave you your first job. He did. Oh, well, Clint got me. Actually, you know who Megan Lafere got me in. Really? Yeah, because she was friends with Joe Tom and she got Clint and me on there. What a treat. Thank you, Megan. Shout out.

SPEAKER_02 10:59

Uh we could see. So, like, Joe Tom's son, I'm sure, knows how to like make all those things like macaroni and cheese and brisket and steaks. But dude, I've seen him do it. I think on Instagram. And like, so like I would say that's a successful skill. He knows how to do. Yeah. Uh how come you don't speak Spanish? Did your parents fail?

SPEAKER_04 11:20

No, I think I was thinking about this the other day. Uh, I just don't pay attention very well. And I just don't care what's happening. So it it but they would talk to me in Spanish and I'd be like, what? And they'd be like, never mind. So they didn't fail, you failed, is what you're saying. I wouldn't say it's fail, it's just I don't care. It's not a failure. I can get along in America. They don't want to like it just fine.

SPEAKER_02 11:41

One or two of your grandparents only speak uh no Spanish. My great-grandparents. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 11:47

My great grand, my great-grandmother mother was from Mexico, my great-grandfather, he's from Tel Rio.

SPEAKER_02 11:52

Dude, if you want to feel like an imbecile, ignorant asshole, go to Europe and literally you can walk into a gas station. And I'm not putting damn gas station people. You can walk into a fast food restaurant, you can go into any Starbucks, and the person the all the people in there working are speaking like they speak like five languages.

SPEAKER_04 12:14

But that's not a big deal to me. Like, of course you're gonna do that. Five languages over there is like English over here. Like, you need to know all the little dialects. I don't yo, what be happening, my man?

SPEAKER_02 12:26

I can understand you. Uh, but it just made me feel happening.

SPEAKER_04 12:32

It's like from the 80s.

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I felt like a catfish noodling white trash, spam eating chef board because everybody was speaking so many languages and I was incapable. Excuse me, sir. No mamas. Uh I kind of feel like that's the the all this immigration is like the new Tower of Babylon. If you're a biblical man and that's how they put the You mean Tower of Babel.

SPEAKER_04 13:04

Yeah, tower.

SPEAKER_02 13:05

Is it not Babylon?

SPEAKER_04 13:06

No, Babylon's some like ancient fucking city. Is Babylon that show that's like Star Trek? Babylon's like song by that queer in the 90s.

SPEAKER_02 13:13

Oh. Tower of Babel. You're right. You're right. I need to go get me a sermon.

SPEAKER_04 13:17

Well, they uh they all I think the the powers that be, the World Economic Forum wants us all to speak one language. You think so? Yeah, I think that's why they moved everyone here. Like they'll all learn English, they'll all get together, and they'll all be one happy family.

SPEAKER_02 13:30

It is pretty crazy with the AI. You know, I have I wear prescription glasses, but I've bought m the metaglasses.

SPEAKER_04 13:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:38

And sometimes I wear them and sometimes I don't. And so I busted them out in Europe, and I was like when we were going to museums and sightseeing and stuff, instead of having a guide, I could talk to the glasses. The glasses can look through the cameras, and then the glasses can tell me about the history of stuff. That's cool. It's not, I mean, a guide would be better, but it's it's better than nothing. I'm not just walking around like a moron staring at stuff I don't know what it is.

SPEAKER_04 14:04

Like a nice Arabic man to show you the sites of Israel.

SPEAKER_02 14:06

Yeah. And uh but the the glasses also have a translation app. And literally I could put it on the German television and then turn my glasses on, and it would have it was it's telling me like what they're talking about. Yeah. And I could put it on like when we would go into a uh restaurant and I could hear other people's conversations, it's translating it. Really?

SPEAKER_04 14:30

Does that? Yeah, it's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_02 14:32

It's but were you interested in any of the shit they had to say? No, but it's no, it's all the same crap. Yeah, but it's it's like uh I don't know. We're this AI is getting us uh you saw the Pope came out and made uh comment on AI. Did you see that? What did he say? Uh I'm gonna butcher it and I'm not even gonna try to re remember what it's called, but he basically put out an 80 uh page opinion piece last week. And it was the subject was AI, and basically he was very cautionary about it. That sounds like me. I'm cautionary, very cautionary and uh very concerned that we were eroding what makes, you know, so the church humanities the most and spirituality is the most important thing, he's afraid of that being compromised or eroded.

SPEAKER_04 15:25

I don't think I think this is just like Y2K all over again. It's just everyone's it's being blown up to where it's like it's not gonna be that big of a deal.

SPEAKER_02 15:33

I feel like that the AI future is that everyone's worried, like you hear the news, people's like, they're you're gonna get your job and do whatever. I think we're all gonna be self-employed. Like AI is gonna allow that. You're literally gonna that's gonna make everything so smart. You're gonna go to the grocery store, but the grocery store is gonna be like a farm and an orchard. You're gonna be like, my god, what like it you'll like an atrium. Like you go to the zoo, you know, you walk through where the birds are. Uh-huh. But the the like imagine a grocery store like that, and you're walking through there, like you want an orange, you're like, you're just reaching up on the tree and you're picking how many oranges you want. And you're picking you're picking the banana. Yeah, like you're your job, like AI is gonna allow your job to be you're just doing things for yourself, you're washing your own clothes, like you're putting your own things together. It's just like this very um Well, what's the point of all that? How does that make what we have how does that make that better? Is that better? Well, so to me, like I like I think laziness will be like the new rationing. So instead of like you being like, like, okay, if you're a big fat 400-pound knucklehead, yeah, like if you have to do everything for yourself like nine times out of ten, like if you have to cook your own meals and you you can't go like through the drive-thru and someone else is doing it, like what if you have to go to McDonald's and like you have to assemble, like you're the sandwich artist now. Right. You have to assemble it yourself. Like the laziness will be the rationing. Does that make sense? Like, people like oh, they're just like uh instead of being 400 pounds, I'm just too lazy to go do that. Oh, okay. And you're you'll lose weight?

SPEAKER_04 17:13

Well, you'll at least you'll you'll quit gaining. I think you're I think more the more likely option we're gonna have a robot that does everything that we want to do. There's gonna be some of that, and then the robots are gonna have a robot war. Yeah, maybe. And I'm gonna send one to fucking poke your eyeballs out.

SPEAKER_02 17:27

Yeah, that would be great.

SPEAKER_04 17:29

Do you think a lot of Indians work at Subway? Is that what you're seeing? Have you seen the Indians at Subway?

SPEAKER_02 17:34

Tell them I haven't been to Subway in forever.

SPEAKER_04 17:36

Dude, Subway, even I went to one in uh Lafayette. Can I take your order, please? What do you kind of bread? I'm like, oh, 12-inch wheat, uh meatball. We're out of meatballs. Uh spicy Italian.

SPEAKER_02 17:50

Do they ever look at you like you're a second generation Indian because you kind of have that India look?

SPEAKER_04 17:55

No, but I've I've mentioned this before. The only time I was mistaken for an Indian was in New Jersey and I was at a hotel. They gave me a discount. I think they thought I was from Hyderabad or something.

SPEAKER_02 18:06

They did give me a discount. You think it was a discount that they're just like, oh, he'll sleep in a room that hasn't been cleaned yet?

SPEAKER_04 18:11

It was it was a bad room. This is the drunkest Indian I've ever seen.

SPEAKER_02 18:17

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_04 18:19

I've never seen a drunk Indian. I'd like to see that. You saw we should have seen me that night. Oh my god. It was like a New Jersey's uh Hooters type restaurant. I it was bad. Chapel. Chapel. Oh do you get per diem, bud? Per diem? No, no, but I I this is my thing. Uh Mexicans are Latin. Are they Latin? What why do they call Mexicans Latin? Um I don't know. And I think per diem is uh it's just a stupid thought. Like that's the only Latin that Mexicans speak. Because they get per diem all the time. What uh I don't know, I don't know about uh oh I went uh get my scout uh half half-assed uh estimated or estimate for it. They said they do it for 8,500. The paint job and all the metalwork. And they would do talking to me. Uh I couldn't tell if he was white or Mexican. He might he had a heavy Mexican accent, but he was white as fuck.

SPEAKER_02 19:21

I think San Antonio is the is the capital of the It really is the valley too, the Rio Grande Valley is like got a lot of like Barbie gringo Mexicans.

SPEAKER_04 19:33

Yeah, I was in Laredo and there was uh I I was in the bathroom and I heard some guys talking in Spanish, and I walked in out with a bunch of white dudes, like younger white kids. That's that. But yeah, uh I knew a girl from Floresville and she talked like uh Peter Hood rat. And she was white.

SPEAKER_02 19:48

She was white. I like a good old like that uh catch me outside girl that was just like um Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:54

I can't ish she was she like half I don't think she was anything, she was just white.

SPEAKER_02 19:57

Yeah, I think she was just straight out the trailer like Kid Rock would say. And now she's rich. She's like a she has like 50 million dollars. I would be willing to bet she's not rich anymore. Really? I don't I could be wrong. That's why it's a bet. It's a gamble.

SPEAKER_04 20:09

Well, I can check it. I can check her net worth right now while you're talking. There were a lot of mine are all over. Yeah. You're all what? Mine, my ones are all on the top list. Muslims are vampires because you can't show them bacon or ham or pork, they'll run away. Have you noticed that? Is that like a real thing? That's a real thing. Remember why they cannot have they cannot even like be in the vicinity of of uh pork products.

SPEAKER_02 20:36

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 20:37

Yeah, like you see them put the the bacon in the Quran. No, like a bookmark, yeah, and then they'll hand them to the most of the and they'll open like oh fuck. Oh my gosh, dude.

SPEAKER_02 20:48

That's that's pretty bad. Uh who's that Tyler uh Olivetta guy? Have you seen he's over in Europe messing with the gypsies and the scammers? No, he's like pepper spraying. Oh, I've seen, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:01

Dude, that guy he hates scammers. He'll just spray him. He'll be like, scammer and spray him. That guy's got some pilotas on him, bud. He really does. Um he's like this other guy I saw who uh he's the one that that uh what was he doing? He was confronting the Muslims and uh they arrested him or whatever. But then they showed him the next day, they showed a video of him like a before, and he was like praying on that wall in Israel.

SPEAKER_02 21:30

Really? Yeah, I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's going on. I think the internet's fake. It's all fake. I think everything's fake.

School Bonds And District Budget Trouble

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Yeah.

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Did you see the Kanippa like bond issue was decided by one vote? No. What was that? They're they were doing uh Kanippa ISD did a 3.75 million. Basically, they need to generate that money and have to do it through taxes so that they can make improvements to the school. And it was literally like fifty four votes to fifty. 53 votes and the it it was tied. It was like 53 to 53, which means it doesn't pass. And then like a week later, they're like, We got a mail-in vote, and it said yes. And no one said shit. And I'm like, this is a that's like a scam. I don't know if it's a but it's just like to me, it's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 22:18

Well, what was the bond? Is to is to rebuild their school or do improvements, yeah. Well, they kind of do. I was there a few years ago and it's kind of it's kind of run down. So that used to be like the escape from Uvaldi that everyone just go to can send their kids a Kanippo.

SPEAKER_02 22:33

Somebody told me that they're calling themselves the Harvard of the Hill Country or something. Really? I don't know if that's true, but somebody said. I will tell you what we called it when I was a kid. We called it the place where kids who were bullied at Uvaldi had to go to school. Oh yeah. Or that they could like literally you couldn't go to school in Uvaldi anymore because you were picked on too much.

SPEAKER_04 22:55

Or you got caught with a shotgun in the in your trunk and then they and then and then they uh got rid of you and then you went there to graduate. Yeah. Shout out. Shout out. That's before all this gun violence stuff.

SPEAKER_02 23:05

It was just like little piddly bullshit. This is a question that came up a couple weeks

Cops DPS And Government Efficiency Rants

SPEAKER_02 23:10

ago. Would you rather see police officers spending money at local restaurants? Or do you think that if they're on the clock they should be out patrolling?

SPEAKER_04 23:19

Um, well, they should be patrolling. But like, I don't mind if they stop and eat at a restaurant. Yeah, I don't either. What else they can go? They're gonna go home? Right. They're gonna eat our lunch and let me bang my wife for 30 minutes. Like, no, go eat at a restaurant and get back to work. Get back to work. Well, who who's who brought that up?

SPEAKER_02 23:36

What you just thought about? Baxter. Oh, shout out Baxter. Yeah, but somebody is asking him, and I thought it was interesting. Like whenever I see police in a restaurant, I don't really think anything of it. I'm just like they're doing like what they're they're just eating. Just eating and they're going back to the room.

SPEAKER_04 23:51

I eat in my truck, they eat in a restaurant.

SPEAKER_02 23:53

I will say there was two troopers there today, and we got we came in, ate breakfast, and left, and they had beat us there and they were still there. So milk in that clock.

SPEAKER_04 24:02

Oh, oh, that's what they're doing? Yeah, maybe they were off duty.

unknown 24:04

I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 24:05

I don't know. In their in their fucking uniform, in their fucking vehicles, their taxpayer fucking gas. That's right. Sons of bitches. Those motherfuckers. What do we think? Let's tell let's talk about the DPS for five seconds. They pulled me over sometimes. I don't like that. I don't like it. They're kind of hard asses on the truck drivers.

SPEAKER_02 24:24

Uh after I had my incident in Kenippa before I put the license plate on the Hellcat. Um good, dude. I'm glad you did that. One of the uh Olivia was driving the the car just like running an airing um in town, and she got pulled over in Uvaldi, like on Grove Street by a DPS for the same thing for the front license plate. Oh, really? And apparently he was like rude as shit to her. It's like it's like, oh, you your your mommy and daddy buy you this fancy car.

SPEAKER_04 24:57

Okay, hold on, wait. Is she that's is she a teenager that that maybe stretches the truth every now and then? Uh she doesn't really she seemed like a pretty straight-up kid.

SPEAKER_02 25:07

She's a pretty straight-up kid. Yeah. Uh and she was like, she was so she was kind of like shaken up after it. Yeah. Like she was like literally like, I never want to get pulled over again. That was so uncomfortable. The guy was scared me and was like rude. And of course I was like, what's your fucking name? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:26

If you if I'm in Uvalde, the cops in the DPS, I consider them they work for me. Yeah. And if they're gonna fuck with me, something I'm gonna say something.

SPEAKER_02 25:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:38

Because they're in my town.

SPEAKER_02 25:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:40

And I grew up here. My whole family's from here. My parents and grandparents are born here. Shut out. Yeah. You're in my neck of the woods. I'm not on Highway 90 in Kneppa. Although my grandmother's born in Kineppo.

SPEAKER_02 25:53

I think um other than when they did the PPP loans and everybody got money. I didn't do that, did you? Well, you don't have a business, but you probably got the money that they gave you just for being a citizen or whatever.

SPEAKER_04 26:08

Oh, like like that $2,000.

SPEAKER_02 26:11

I think that's like I think that's the most efficient and the best thing any form of government's done. And that just give us a what if that's peak government? Well, it was just impressive. Like they got that shit out in like 30 days. The whole country. Wait, and they're like, we're doing it. And then I had a check in the mail. And kept it afloat. Yeah. And then the prices went up. But then, like, you look at them putting up road cones on I-35. Oh, God. Or if you look at any of the construct, if you look at anything else that the government's involved in, it's literal dog shit. They can't make it work. It's too big. The country's too big. They can't make it work. They can't do it. We gotta bring back Tar and Featherin. We gotta get these bastards. That's your that's your solution. It is. Or turn it over to AI. I would rather be sitting here and be like, the warlords, the the computer warlord overlords.

SPEAKER_04 27:00

I've been saying this from day one. I'm like, get rid of all these congressmen. They're all in it for themselves. Put in AI, just enforce the fucking rules, and we'll have a totally different country, a better country. Dude, I'm so happy John Cornyn's got his fucking.

SPEAKER_02 27:15

I don't even like the way that motherfucker looks. I hated him.

SPEAKER_04 27:18

I hate him.

SPEAKER_02 27:19

He sucks. And he was such a fucking trying to blow Trump's balls by the end of it. Did he put a he put a bill in three weeks ago to name uh an Interstate 47 in honor of Donald Trump? Like he was trying to kiss ass in the news. He's trying to endorse factors. That guy is such a piece. I'm not saying that Ken Paxton's not a piece of shit.

SPEAKER_03 27:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:41

And I'm not saying James Tellerico's not a piece of shit. Because they're both, if they were walking around, flies are following them. Those guys are both pieces of shit. Right. But John Cornyn was a worthless piece of shit. Like he's a piece of shit that's already dried up and a fly wouldn't even land on. Right.

SPEAKER_04 27:57

That's how I feel about it. That's how I feel about it too. I think if you're a politician, you're just like anyone else, but you're just people do they listen to them like, oh, he says the right thing. He's gonna do what he says. None of them ever do what they're gonna say.

SPEAKER_02 28:09

Well, the problem is how can you trust them? You'll never make everyone happy. Yeah. And so the minute you quit, you realize that, then the only person you're serving is kind of yourself. Right. And it's like to not become fall into the from like when you're trying to appease everyone and then you're only in it for yourself. That middle in between that is so finite, there's very few people that can exist in it. Right. It's just almost impossible for most people.

SPEAKER_04 28:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:35

That's my opinion.

SPEAKER_04 28:35

I just don't like when people are like, uh, I like the what he says. You listen to what he says. He's gonna they never do what they're gonna say. That's all we need AI in there just to enforce the fucking rules. We don't need any of this new bullshit. Everyone's got rights already.

SPEAKER_02 28:49

Did you see that article where it said the CIA is accessing 23andMe DNA looking for like alien DNA? She an alien. And I was like, how are they gonna deport all these? Like they think these illegals are. Like if that's where you went with that. But then but if it was extraterrestrial.

SPEAKER_04 29:09

And that's what I oh yeah, aliens. Yeah, alien. Well, I heard uh Matt Gaines was talking about not Matt. Is that Matt Gaines? What's his name? Is that congressman? Chris Gaines. No, shut out. Oh Chris Gaines. Uh yeah, they were they've been talking about this. The aliens have uh inner interbred with us, but I don't know if that's true. That's what they say. I don't think I don't even think they're real. How about that? How about that? Aliens, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_02 29:37

They're coming 2027. It's on my bingo card. Is it really? Yeah. I doubt it. I believe it.

SPEAKER_04 29:43

It's such a men in black story that I'm like, I'm in. That's his internet shit, I think. People can believe anything on the fucking internet.

SPEAKER_02 29:51

But if like 28 years ago, if you were telling someone about the internet, they would have been like, well, you we gotta put you in a nut house. I don't know. We had email 28 years ago. Uh maybe like maybe like 48, yeah. Yeah. Uh did you see those Crystal City schools?

SPEAKER_04 30:05

Yeah, well, they had 500. I had more in my checking account than they did.

SPEAKER_02 30:09

I was kind of proud of that. They're letting go 25% of the staff. One in four people are they need to Gonzalez. Tony Gonzalez? That means gone.

SPEAKER_04 30:20

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 30:23

Uh is it they were just spending too much on the people, or what's up with that? I don't really know, bro, but it sounds like a reckoning. But Crystal City. So here's two things that kind of put it into a perspective of reality. Like, that's a bad story, that's bad news, that's a problem that they're trying to fix. Two things that are facts. The in the article it said the part of the reason that they're going through this restructure and they're gutting it and they're letting everyone go is and they're trying to save their own school system. Is that one of the other alternatives that they have no interest in was being consolidated with Uvaldi's school group? Oh, really? Second, this group that is broke and having all these problems, they rank they're in the latest round of scoring, they score higher than Uvaldi.

SPEAKER_04 31:19

Oh, really? Yeah. I thought Crystal, they used to be the most corrupt city in America. That's what they said. Which I guess I can believe that, but it's weird. Is did they name it after Crystal Math? No. No, but you know what? Um my new idea, which I'm gonna do. Yeah, I don't know if it's legal. I think it is. I'm gonna do uh Negpod crackpipes. Oh, I like that. And we're gonna have them here at the at the thing. You can pick one up. Maybe not just smoke crack at it. Maybe put it in your bathroom as a little decoration. And have a picture of your dad's head on there, like we need to do any of these.

SPEAKER_02 31:55

This is not paraphernalia. It's art.

SPEAKER_04 31:57

They'd probably still DPS to go to mouse, pick me up. Oh, yeah. Cocksuckers.

SPEAKER_02 32:02

Oh the the tractor supply in Hondo is in the woods.

SPEAKER_04 32:07

Have you noticed that? Yeah. I'm like, I'm I'm I was looking for the one Casterville, they're like, there's one in Hondo. Like, where the fuck is that? I went by the Walmart, it's like way in the back. I I noticed it like last year, and I was like, holy shit, I didn't know this was.

SPEAKER_02 32:20

Is there even a sign? There's no fucking sign on the highway, nothing. They probably didn't give them a permit for a sign. Oh, really? I mean, I guess. Why wouldn't they have one? But I went in there, they had a bunch of shit. I think they have more shit in U Valley. The one here in U Valley is picked over like a shitty flea market.

SPEAKER_04 32:35

Dude, it's sucking. They have nothing. I've last year or a couple years ago, I brought it up to him. I'm like, y'all don't have anything. Like, well, we'd have some stuff.

SPEAKER_02 32:41

You got nothing we need. Look, I don't need a four-wheeler or a fake go-kart or some Timu hunting blind. I need like the basic shit you're how about a toolbox? How about a chain?

SPEAKER_04 32:54

What about a trailer connector pulling? Yeah, a trailer adapter. Like we went to O'Reilly's, they didn't have those either. Maybe they're not making them. I don't know.

unknown 33:01

I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 33:02

Yeah, I went there for like a chain link the other couple years ago. They didn't have shit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:10

You know, Whataburger must have like the cheapest coffee in town, or they'll just or they'll just let you drink as much as you want. But whenever you like whenever I've been going in there in the morning to get a little breakfast, there's no they don't have coffee ready. That's bullshit. And there's a bunch of old men in there that are like very they're always in there, but they're drinking a bowl mad that there's not any coffee. Oh you think about it. So it must be like 50 cents cheaper than everywhere else, or or they would they would leave.

SPEAKER_04 33:43

The old men uh they gather there. They used to gather at the stripes here, now it's shut down.

SPEAKER_02 33:47

Dude, my friend's grandpa lived down in Port La Vaca, and they would go to the same restaurant every day, every day for like 12 years. Well, what the fuck is that? And they raised the price of coffee 50 cents, and then they realized that Dairy Queen was selling coffee a quarter cheaper, and all the men moved to Dairy Queen and started drinking their coffee there. That's over a quarter. That's an old man move. I love it. I love that.

SPEAKER_04 34:09

That's such a total old man move. Yeah. We're going to Dairy Queen. All right, let's go. Yeah. Pinch of coffee. I want to I when I get older, I want to have our car club. I want to get coffee at the place we're gonna get coffee at. And I want to chill out. I like it. Yeah, maybe we'll restore a car too. I'm in. I'm in.

Scout Restoration Quotes And Project-Car Reality

SPEAKER_04 34:29

Um what do you think about $8,500 for redoing my scout? Is that too much?

SPEAKER_02 34:34

I I think that it's uh I think it's a fair deal. Yeah. Yeah. It is a lot, but it is like it's it could be a lot more.

SPEAKER_04 34:44

Yeah, it could be.

SPEAKER_02 34:45

Yeah, there's quotes for more.

SPEAKER_04 34:47

That when I first started, they said they would do all the work I did to it now and it charge me about $56,000. I like it. Now if it's all done with the way I did it, it'll be $34,000. I'd say more like 45. But still.

SPEAKER_02 35:01

Still, I learned a lot. And I don't think, no offense, that your time's worth anything because like you don't have any other hobbies. So this has been a you would literally have just been watching TV and doing stuff. So I think you actually get instead of being like, what's my time worth? You don't get any credit because it's been a productive thing for you. It's been like learning. It's like going to school.

SPEAKER_04 35:25

Well, before I did that, when they were working in my car and I had nothing to do with it, I would just lay in bed with my dog and we'd both stare at the wall. Yeah. I mean, kind of fun, but it gets kind of old after a while.

SPEAKER_02 35:35

Well, they raised the price on peanut butter, so you had to go do this.

SPEAKER_04 35:39

God, imagine that. Shut up extra.

SPEAKER_02 35:42

Uh Austin, Texas, is all white people who don't know they're assholes. Do you agree or disagree? I think they are yeah, they don't know that they are. Like they think everyone else is the asshole, but it's literally like when you live in Austin, it's you. You are the white ass you're the asshole that's in Umbro shorts that's like offended. Shout out, Matt March. Shout out.

SPEAKER_04 36:07

Um, I saw I saw uh I was in Austin yesterday and I saw a little white kid trying to get on the highway. He had a little ponytail, and it was all skinny. Looked like he was on his way to go play a game with his friends on the computer. What the fuck has been going on in this world, dude?

SPEAKER_02 36:21

There's this lady I follow online, and her Instagram handle is the Civic Sage, C-I-V-I-C-S-C-E. And uh, she's a democratic socialist like Jesus, a wife and a mom.

SPEAKER_04 36:36

Oh, I went to her page and saw that.

SPEAKER_02 36:37

And she has 255,000 followers. You can buy those, you know that. Followers. She's like our age, and she's like real opinionated and very liberal, and she hates she've l she's the kind of person that's like she's a democratic socialist like Jesus. But every time like somebody is if you died and she looked you up and she saw like you had MAGA in your deal, she'd be glad you were dead. She would pray that you would be resurrected and killed again. Yes, yes. Like she's just a she's she thinks she's a really good person, but she's just a hateful, she's as bad as a neo-Nazi. She might as well be from Austin. She is from Austin. Oh, okay. Well, there you go. Uh but Alex is always like, Why are you following the story? And she is like, everything she says makes you mad. And I told her, I said, the only reason that I'm watching this lady is because I want her to know, and this will make her hate me. Only reason I'm watching her is because she's got big cans. Oh, really? And the whole time I'm watching her. I'm watching her, and I'm like, you stupid bitch. I bet the only reason half the people talk to you is because you got these cannons. That's true. And that's the only reason. I disagree with everything. I want to push her down, not really, because it wouldn't be worth my time. But if I saw her be pushed down, I'd be like, oh, idiot. And then I'd help her up because I'm like Jesus too. And uh be can't look how old she is. She's like our age, though. She's literally 43 years old. No way. Yeah, I think we're I think we might have wrinkles too, but I'm I'm bald.

SPEAKER_04 38:08

Do I have wrinkles? Yeah, I don't know. You have a gray beard. You have one, maybe there. But she's she looks like my mother. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:16

But I just know it would really bother her that I I disagree with everything she says. Would that bother her?

SPEAKER_04 38:23

Yeah, that was that would probably send her in the spiral.

SPEAKER_02 38:25

But I'm just here for the cans. I'm here for the cleavage. And there's there's not even any cleavage. It's just heavy shirt. It's heavy, it's heavy. Yeah, it's a heavy sweater. Heavy sweater. Sweater mate.

SPEAKER_04 38:36

Uh so they call them sweater puppies ever. Oh, yeah, that's what it is.

SPEAKER_02 38:41

That's how I'm fighting back against uh uh TDS. That's funny. Just scoping out these uh liberal women, yeah. So everyone go give uh civic stage a uh a follow. Ox, could you follow her and then just start making like comments on her cans and just see how long until you get like reported.

SPEAKER_04 39:02

I'll follow her right now. Oh, I love it. And I'll look at her videos at her thing so she knows I watched the T E A. What is that? Like some socialist thing?

SPEAKER_02 39:12

Yeah, the T part uh or yeah, tech. I don't know. Texas Education Association. There's uh there's another girl I follow on uh I don't know if I follow her, but she pops up on Instagram, but her name's It's Emma. Yeah, you told us about this.

SPEAKER_04 39:28

And the one that goes hiking?

SPEAKER_02 39:30

No, no, this is a different one. That's another Emma. This one is like a it's Emma, and it's this like kind of tomboy girl that's pretty and she works construction and she went viral last year, like 4th of July, for eating a bunch of like hot dogs. Like she was eating them like a dude. She was like, This is these are I've got three different hot dogs for America, and she's like kind of got a raspy voice, and then she got kind of popular, and so she's quit her construction job. Yeah, and I think now she has an OnlyFans or something like this where she's getting money.

SPEAKER_04 40:03

I'm trying to find her on Instagram. It's it's Emma. I can't I I couldn't find her the other day.

SPEAKER_02 40:07

Uh I'll send it to you. Maybe I got the handle wrong.

SPEAKER_04 40:10

I had a I had a very uh um what did my ex-girlfriend call me? What's that what's it called when you're uh like a feminist or a male show a chauvinist? A chauvinist, yeah. Uh there was a woman, I went to Granger to look for some uh power tools and shit, and I had an idea. There was a woman and a man in the van in a work in like in a construction van, and she had hand like tattoos in her hands and on her neck, and she'd look dirty like she's working. And I thought, what would a chauvinist say about this? He would say, You should this is not my idea. But a male chauvinist would say, put all that work into not eating, find a husband, have babies, and then get fat again.

SPEAKER_02 40:53

Uh I don't believe that. The first time I heard a chauvinist pig, I just thought that was a category at the stock show. I was like, oh, maybe that's just like the best showman of pigs.

SPEAKER_04 41:05

Oh, you did? I mean like a Charlet bull. How's that pronounced?

SPEAKER_02 41:10

Uh Charlie. Charlet, yeah. Uh a chauvinist pig, like but that girl I was talking about the tomboy. She popped up on a video the other day and she's out on some river in Kentucky in a brand new boat. She was like, got all this money now, bought a boat, and she's just by herself on this boat fishing. I gotta see this.

SPEAKER_04 41:32

You gotta send me the link.

SPEAKER_02 41:33

It just made me happy. She's a literally a dude, but didn't have to get a sex change. And she would just, is she hot?

SPEAKER_04 41:39

Yeah, she's like uh she is, she's pretty. Like you, she's a she's attractive. But these women, they think that money will make them happy, but it won't.

SPEAKER_02 41:49

They won't.

SPEAKER_04 41:50

Poor people think money will make you happy. It won't make you happy. Yeah. I finally got my I don't know. We got my scout out, they finished, they fixed all my stuff on my scalp. They got it out, so now I feel like I'm I'm free to talk shit about them. Tell me. They're cocksuckers. Oh my god. They literally did and I told them this. They would not do what I wanted them to do. They would just do whatever they wanted to do. This is my thing. Maybe it's not everywhere in your valvey, but you will go to a mechanic to redo anything or I I told him this when I started. I said, I have $20,000. You can take as much time as you want to fix it. And I'll give you this. You can take a month or six months up to a year and get it done. And I'll give you this money. You know what they did? It took two years. They don't fucking care. They don't care. They they don't they say they care about money, but I think they just care about not doing anything.

SPEAKER_02 42:47

I just think I go back to the point where I don't care who the mechanic is. There's like you're a guy with a project so that you can have something fun to drive on a Sunday. Yeah. And every time the guy comes in that like his only car is broke down and he can't get to work, he's gonna go in front of you in line every time. Unless you go to like a place that only does projects, and then you're gonna pay through the nose. But you that's what I'm trying to tell people is like you can't go to the working man's mechanic and expect this to happen normal because every time someone's car is broke down that can't go to work, they go in front of you.

SPEAKER_04 43:24

But you know what they did?

SPEAKER_02 43:25

They fucking promised me that they're they they don't they're liars, they don't even know what they're promising. Yeah, they don't even know.

SPEAKER_04 43:33

I know, but okay, this is the problem with mechanics though. Like, is is it to where you're a mechanic, you have that mindset already where like I don't want to work, I don't feel like working that hard. I'm gonna be a mechanic. Or do you really love being a mechanic? I think they work really hard.

SPEAKER_02 43:50

I know, but like, are I don't know. It just pissed me off. But I think at some point you become like when you're a good mechanic, there's just some things that you're like, I don't want to work on that because it's not. It's not mentally challenging. Like, you know what I mean? At some point you enjoy fixing or fabricating or like solving a problem. And at some point you're like, I got no interest on putting a starter on this thing. Or I got I never got no interest in putting a seal kit in this thing.

SPEAKER_04 44:15

And then I talked to a guy in Austin, uh Tanya Gray's cousin. Shout out, Tanya Gray. Shout out. Um he said he would do it in six weeks. He's like, I'll get it all. And I believed him.

SPEAKER_02 44:24

And I told these guys, like, I'm taking it. I think Tanya Gray's probably gonna go fishing with that girl up there on that river. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 44:30

I think she's married though. I think she'd divorce her husband and go out there fishing. If he's fishing with it, we've caught four fish. Can we go home now? Now we gotta make another video.

SPEAKER_02 44:40

Oh chingao. Did you know that uh 10% of India's adult population is diabetic? I thought 10% of the Indian population was here. They're for free medical. That's why they came.

SPEAKER_04 44:54

No, I heard a bunch of people in China are diabetic because all they eat is rice, and that really fucks you up. Bad genes, bro. Is it genes or is it the diet?

SPEAKER_02 45:02

I think it's bad genes.

SPEAKER_04 45:03

Are you kidding? They've been changing this rice to a GMO bullshit, I think. Oh maybe that's I don't know. Wait, they're 10% diabetic, so what does that mean? Like they're all dying out there? No, it's just they got problems, more problems.

SPEAKER_02 45:15

More problems.

SPEAKER_04 45:16

More money, more problems.

SPEAKER_02 45:18

That's it.

SPEAKER_04 45:19

Where are you on this? Um, I'm just bouncing around.

Cargo Theft Border Stories And Truck Stops

SPEAKER_04 45:22

What about this Arizona truck heist? What is that?

SPEAKER_02 45:24

Did you see that? So there was some truck uh full of electronics from California, and it stopped in Arizona to get fuel, and it the guy like went in to pay, left the fuel bay, and uh uh like three vans pulled up, cut his locks, and stole like $80,000. It has to be an inside job.

SPEAKER_04 45:44

There was a place uh Dell Computers had a place in Reno where it worked that worked there, and we talked to the drivers, they were like, We cannot we cannot stop for a hundred miles at least when we leave. It's uh you have to keep going because uh it's all their shit's expensive. Yeah, so they took all their shit, huh? Yeah, wipe out. I saw they uh they caught some dude hauling a bunch of Mexicans uh the other day uh by the border somewhere. I saw that too. Or is Antonio in the cab? Yeah, at least they're cab cab haulers.

SPEAKER_02 46:14

Did we talk about that time I got I think there's a hierarchy in illegals like if you get to come in the cab as opposed to like you have to ride in the box van?

SPEAKER_04 46:22

Maybe. If you're a woman, you get to ride up front.

SPEAKER_02 46:25

Are you a sauna illegal or an AC illegal? I think everyone's for a friend.

SPEAKER_04 46:30

Everyone's an AC illegal.

SPEAKER_02 46:31

Yeah, shout out.

SPEAKER_04 46:32

Did we tell you about that one time I almost hauled one? Uh-uh. Um, we were in the I was in my old international and it had like a scoop, and in the back you could put in uh uh it was like a space, and I was parked at a truck stop in the valley, and I and I heard some rumbling in the morning. I was like, I wonder what that is. My truck moved. I'm like, oh my god, what is that? Oh, you told me about that. Someone was crawling up there. And no, and I went and checked, there's no one back there. And then uh I uh I went outside and looked and I went, I climbed up the thing, and there was a Mexican in the in the in on top of my truck. And I told her to get out, and she got and when she got out, she climbed off the back and broke every piece of plastic on my truck.

SPEAKER_02 47:13

Oh man, good thing it wasn't your truck.

SPEAKER_04 47:15

Yeah, hold on, we're gonna take a pause.

Victoria Duran Joins The Conversation

SPEAKER_04 47:18

And we're back with our special guest. Special guest in studio. Victoria During. Wait, do I have a thing for that? Okay, we're climbing the applause thing. Go ahead. Uh Victoria, okay, now you're on.

SPEAKER_02 47:36

Wait, can you hear?

SPEAKER_04 47:38

What's and sorry, okay. Victoria During.

SPEAKER_01 47:41

Hello.

SPEAKER_04 47:42

Hello. Howdy.

SPEAKER_01 47:44

Hi. I feel in um I think it's interesting that you just got back from Germany and I'm the special guest with the German last name, but definitely not German.

SPEAKER_04 47:51

But not German. No. Oh, wait, no, but your husband.

SPEAKER_01 47:55

Uh well, my husband's father's side of the family is from Germany. So his paternal grandparents are born and raised in Hamburg and then immigrated to South Africa and had my husband's father and his sister. Uh, well, his father and aunt, right? And then um, so they were born and raised in South Africa. And my husband's mother's side of the family is 100% Afrikaans. So original, like a Dutch boer, few French hoogenot, um, lineage and everything.

SPEAKER_04 48:22

I've always heard about the boers. Is that how you pronounce it boer?

SPEAKER_01 48:24

Yes, it

Bicycles In Holland And Language Pride

SPEAKER_01 48:25

it it directly translates to farmer, but it's a Afrikaans farmer.

SPEAKER_02 48:29

Yeah, I haven't really talked about it, but we spent a little bit of time in the Netherlands, and uh I I hated it. I uh you hated the Netherlands? I didn't. Oh, it's just a bunch of fucking people on bicycles everywhere, everywhere. Are they the Dutch? Yes, and they are riding bikes with a purpose, like aggressively, seriously too much bike riding. I I uh I didn't like it. I liked obviously I really enjoyed Germany, but I was so blown away by the bicycle culture of the Dutch. It was it was everywhere. Explain the bicycle, but it was business.

SPEAKER_01 49:11

Okay, so South Africa was um colonized by the Dutch and the English and the German and the French and all the things, right? So Afrikaans is basically a derivative of Dutch, the language itself. So I could read Dutch and I can tell you pretty much what it says or like what the gist of the meaning is, but I cannot speak Dutch. They're totally different. And so we actually had a layover in the Netherlands, also called Holland. A lot of people get confused and think that Holland is a different country than the Netherlands, but they're interchangeable. Um, they're the same country. So we had a layover over there, and I wanted to find, I wanted to see this old church. It's like one of the oldest churches in the country, and it's literally called it's O-U-D-E-K-E-R-K, which in Afrikaans you would pronounce it O de Kerk. But I was asking Dutch people where to find this because it was just so much walking and there were bicycles everywhere, and it was like very difficult to navigate. Everything just is kind of piled on top of each other. And we'd walk like two miles, and so I finally asked for directions, and they look at you like you're a dumb American, right? And um, I was like, you know, the old church, and they're like, oh, the Audekat. I was like, all right, whatever. However, y'all pronounce it. Like how I would have said that in Afrikaans is totally different than the way they say it in Dutch. But apparently, there's more bicycles um like per capita, like per square mile, rather, in the Netherlands than anywhere else on Earth.

SPEAKER_02 50:34

There's more bicycles than people, yes, uh and do and we hate that, right? I just didn't care for it. Okay. Uh it's not for me. Um what Victoria, how many languages does Ziggy speak?

SPEAKER_01 50:46

Shit, Ziggy. He speaks a good amount of Zulu. Um, so in Afrikaans was his first language. He didn't learn English until he was 11. And then he learned English. His father learned German first and then Afrikaans and then English. Ziggy understands enough German to understand what he's being shouted at like by his German grandmother, right? Um, but he doesn't speak German. But a little bit of Zulu.

SPEAKER_02 51:10

Uh I was telling Ox there's you just feel like so worthless and ignorant traveling in Europe because you literally walk into any kind of business, like even like basic starter level employment, and the person running the counter is speaking three, four, five languages fluently and confidently. Yeah. Like they're they're actually capable of having humorous banter with a customer in in five different languages, and you're just there like an ignorant putts, you know. But I'm not impressed by putting it. I I don't know. I I think I am. Why? Uh it's just you can do another thing. We just know useless things that know something better.

SPEAKER_04 51:55

We run the whole world. They can speak languages and we run the whole world. I'd rather take that.

SPEAKER_01 52:00

The joke is that there's multilingual, trilingual, bilingual, and then the way you say only speaking one language is American.

SPEAKER_04 52:07

I love it. So I'll take it.

SPEAKER_01 52:09

Which is sad, but it's sad. It's not sad.

SPEAKER_04 52:13

We run the world. We try to. So we bomb a lot of people.

SPEAKER_02 52:17

Well, there's a lot of that going on right now. Yeah. I didn't run into any uh like vocal anti-American protests or demonstrations this time and all the traveling around that we did. That kind of surprised me with uh just all that's going on in the world and between the tariffs and the uh um wars and conflicts and in and out of positions in Ukraine that I didn't really get a run into a lot of opinionated. I think one, it's just been going on so long, people have lost interest. I did hear some of the business people talk about the tariffs, but like the tariffs changing so much that they were just like, we don't know what this what Trump's gonna do next. And I was like, hey, you're you're like us. Are you a Trump fan, Victoria?

SPEAKER_01 53:05

I I very I've definitely voted for Trump every time that he was on the ballot. And I'm very thankful for a America first mindset. I think there's a lot of things that we need to focus on and uh fix on the home front. Yes. And so I like his policies. I can't say I always agree with everything that comes out of his mouth. Yeah, but this is a good segue into the fact that I don't know what y'all talked about for how long y'all have been talking since I got on. Um, but I will say that I love y'all's podcast and thank you for doing it because I think that open, common sense-minded conversations are what people need to hear and need to have more of. We can agree to disagree on many different things, and there's definitely been things that y'all have said in previous episodes that maybe I don't agree with, but I still find uh humorous at least or um understand your point of view. But um, I'm a proud fan.

SPEAKER_04 53:57

Yes, we love it. We have more stickers right there. You can get your uh old G sticker. Yeah, isn't that nice?

SPEAKER_01 54:03

Yeah, but um I don't almost wore I figured hot pink since I'm for the first negpod girl that I'd wear a hot pink shirt. I almost wore my leather pants just to get on your nerves and see if you'd say something about me getting sweaty, but I didn't wear leather pants.

SPEAKER_04 54:17

Gosh, imagine that. It's too hot. It's too hot. You're actually the second woman we've had in our show.

SPEAKER_02 54:23

Oh but it was uh in the first generation of Negpod years ago. You wouldn't be impressed with her.

SPEAKER_01 54:30

Who was it?

SPEAKER_04 54:31

Uh should we name her? Her name is Brandy Glenn. She's from the Stormion too, didn't we? We never had Stormion. No, we only talked about it.

SPEAKER_01 54:39

Okay, I don't know. But um, in the world of politics or just in general, right? Anything that I say can and will be used against me for public record. So, in you know, prior to being a candidate and certainly from this point onward. So um I I am very cognizant of that.

SPEAKER_02 54:58

So Well, you're gonna try to keep it professional. We'll we'll segue a little bit into that. I don't want to like beat on that too much, but we obviously got to talk about it. One, you worked your butt off like really hard from not like kind of getting on the ballot and originally not being locally in the conversation, like when everybody knew that this election was coming up and Judge Mitchell wasn't gonna run, like there was a handful of four or five names there. Whether it's the And we're back.

SPEAKER_04 55:29

Hi.

Recording Glitch And Billboard Fast Turnaround

SPEAKER_02 55:30

Sorry, guys. Oh my gosh, we just did like 30 or 40 minutes. No, it was like yeah, about 30 minutes. Fat finger Magoo didn't.

SPEAKER_04 55:37

Sorry, I made a mistake. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 55:39

So where did we stop? What did it record?

SPEAKER_04 55:42

I don't know. I have to check, but we stopped.

SPEAKER_00 55:46

Okay, now we're starting.

SPEAKER_02 55:47

Now we're starting. We've had uh just like life, we've lost today. We love it. We know we know we got you warmed up.

SPEAKER_01 56:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 56:02

We got the we got we got warmed up. Oh man, what a bummer. Oof. I feel bad.

SPEAKER_01 56:09

It's okay.

SPEAKER_02 56:10

Victoria During. We've covered so much.

SPEAKER_01 56:16

Yeah, you know things that didn't age well.

SPEAKER_04 56:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:18

My billboard.

SPEAKER_04 56:20

What's your way? Oh, yeah, I saw that one on 90.

SPEAKER_01 56:23

They were supposed to take it down on Friday. I haven't driven out there today. It's Sunday. I haven't driven out there to see if it's still there, but I'm just saying, awkward turtle. It didn't age well.

SPEAKER_02 56:32

I think they should put it back up with that Tony Gonzalez one where he's on fire or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 56:36

No.

SPEAKER_04 56:36

I didn't see that one.

unknown 56:38

No.

SPEAKER_04 56:38

And then no. Um the winds are out of my sails now.

SPEAKER_02 56:42

Did so do I want to I want to educate myself on uh on billboards. How you can like literally get a billboard, like an idea, and have something happen like within a couple days.

SPEAKER_01 56:54

Yeah. So it was $2,000 for a four-week period, is what mine cost over there with Signad, Daryl.

SPEAKER_02 57:01

Uh you just call the 1-800 number on there, or did you look it up? Okay, you know.

SPEAKER_01 57:05

I know our sales rep guy. His name is Daryl Murray, and I've gotten quotes from him for years for different clients in Ivaldi. So I have a connection with him, but I'm sure, yeah, you could probably call the 1-800 number, but I go through Daryl.

SPEAKER_02 57:17

Cool.

SPEAKER_01 57:17

Yeah. And within three days, I had the contract sign at uh artwork approved, and then it was up.

SPEAKER_02 57:23

So uh that's that's interesting. It's a it's a fast process for an antiquated um business that's still relevant, people still talk about. But what how many things are a century old that really haven't changed that still spur conversation and people pay attention to?

SPEAKER_04 57:45

Sorry guys, I'm I'm still pissed off. Oh why don't you choose? We are recording though. I think we record uh we're at an hour, so we got some of it. Yeah, maybe like 20 minutes of it.

SPEAKER_01 57:58

Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_04 57:59

Yeah. Oh boy.

SPEAKER_01 58:00

Well, when you go back and and edit, it'll be interesting to see what's on there.

SPEAKER_02 58:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 58:04

But we can hit back on some topics if you want.

SPEAKER_02 58:06

Yeah. So I'm gonna go to the bathroom. Y'all can that'll be hard to do, but all right, Victoria.

SPEAKER_01 58:12

We're the weakest link is leaving the room. Do you want to hear? Oh, I'll wait until so okay. I have a question since I do not know Matt Martinez, why do you call him ox?

SPEAKER_02 58:24

Um, so I think in junior high football, one of the coaches called him that, and we've been calling him that ever since, and pretty much all I call him. Uh, and because he has a giant fucking head like the size of an ox, I used to joke like if you chopped his head off, it wouldn't, they don't make a crock pot big enough to fill it. Oh my gosh, put it in.

SPEAKER_01 58:43

That's how big it's there's a very famous South African rugby player uh who's currently on the team, and his name they call him, I think his actual name is ox, though. I'm not sure if that's just a nickname. I think his actual name is ox.

SPEAKER_02 58:56

What uh so we kind of we don't know what we got and what we don't got. Ox is gonna go back and splice together, and we may have missed a lot. I'm just gonna hit the high recaps.

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SPEAKER_02 59:06

Victoria is class of 99 Uvaldi.

SPEAKER_00 59:10

2009.

SPEAKER_02 59:11

Yeah, I keep saying that.

SPEAKER_00 59:12

I'm 35, not 45.

SPEAKER_02 59:13

Yeah, class of 2009, 35 years old.

SPEAKER_00 59:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:17

Uh she had born and raised in the county, attended uh schools up north, graduated from Uvaldi. She met her husband.

SPEAKER_01 59:26

Why up north it was Numasis Canyon. So we still lived in Uvaldi County. So we lived in Montel Laguna whenever I went to school in Brackettville till third grade, Uvaldi, fourth, fifth, and sixth grade, Numasis Canyon seventh grade till my junior year, and then I was back uh and graduated from Uvaldi High School in my senior year, where I graduated in 2009. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:47

And then you met your husband Ziggy, who's from South Africa.

SPEAKER_01 59:51

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 59:51

His family is still there, and they've been there uh early, early members of that community.

SPEAKER_01 59:59

His mother's side were some of the first uh like his genealogy on that side goes back to some of the first settlers of of South Africa. But his father's side, his uh paternal grandmother and grandfather were born and raised in Hamburg, Germany, and immigrated to South Africa.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:15

So all right, and then you spent a couple years living over there.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:19

We got married there and I lived there for three years. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:21

And then you've been back.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:23

Yes, we moved back in the end of 2015. I worked at the Ox Ranch, actually, which was that that same property was my family's property for about a hundred years. So my great-grandfather put that together. He met his wife, whose family was several generations Uvalde County, Mamie, Melinda, Lacey Herndon, they met whenever they came to Uvalde for supplies on horse-drawn wagons, where the post office is now that was a wagon yard. So my great-grandfather and great-grandmother met there. And the what is the ox ranch now? That was my family's property for about a hundred years. And I, when we moved back from South Africa, because we'd done safaris for the three years that I lived there. I knew I know all of my African species and I, you know, organized all the safaris. So I ended up meeting Brent Oxley at a Four Square Friday right after we moved back. And he was like, You know all your animals, you did safaris, I want to do weddings and corporate events, come work for me at the ranch. And I was like, Okay, I would love to, you know, spend time back at my, you know, my grandparents' property that I haven't been on since I sold it. And so I worked out there for about from February 2016 until December 2016. And then the executive director position for the Chamber of Commerce here in Uvaldi came up. And I love Brent. He's a supporter of mine, he donated to my campaign. But um I I needed something that was a little bit different than the ranch life at that time. So I told him I was gonna apply for the job, and I did, and I got it, and I worked there for almost four years. So and then you when you left the chamber, you've basically been doing kind of so I did marketing and PR in a subcontract capacity for several different businesses for about three years, and then I did Cody Smith's mayoral campaign, and then the wonderful John McLaughlin asked me to be his campaign manager, which I learned a lot and cut a lot of teeth in that. And ultimately, as far as me going into politics, being running for Uvalde County judge is something that I always thought would suit my personality. It's a very multifaceted, working, um, high-energy level uh position that you need to just I think being a people person in collaborating with people is the most important skill set for that job. It's not something you can necessarily run on as far as being a candidate. Either you have it or you don't, and people can recognize that. But um I I had visited with Judge Mitchell about five years ago and told him that at some point in my life it was something that I thought I would pursue. I thought I would be significantly older. You had mentioned earlier, I don't know if it made it into the recording, but there were four or five people that were kind of talking about throwing their names in the hat, and then they didn't end up doing it. And so, and I was gonna back and work for who I thought was gonna be the best candidate for that if they wanted me to do so. Um, and whenever people who I was really willing to back for this for this office weren't going to run, I decided to do it myself because working with Don McLaughlin going up to Austin, I was very honored to have met many elected officials from all different, you know, levels, uh local, state, uh national. And what I realized was the only reason why they are where they are is because they wanted to be. They decided to put their name on the ballot and to make it happen. So you get really good ones, you get really bad ones, but ultimately they're there because they decided to go for it.

unknown 1:03:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:58

So that's what I did.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:59

And so going through that, we kind of talked like obviously when you put yourself out there, you make the decision to jump out there in a leap of faith that you're doing it for the the purpose so that you can contribute, that you feel like you can make a difference, that you think that's a good fit. So you get in there and you subject yourself to this public arena. And and without a doubt, it it it is that you it is self-sacrificing. And we like to put down uh politicians all the time. And I think when you get to a certain level that you really have to study everything with a microscope to make sure you're not self-serving, but it is self-sacrifice to get yourself, to put yourself into that position, to put yourself on a ballot, to subject your subject yourself to the criticism, to the conversation, to trying to stand by your what your morals are, what your convictions are, and convince others to support you and elect you.

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SPEAKER_02 1:04:55

It's tough. And so the only reason that you would do that is because you intend to win and you want to win. And uh and when you and when you don't, you uh you refocus. I would say that you've been very graceful in the in the week since this is all uh passed. I don't know if it recorded earlier. I asked you the position uh for the general the general election, and you said that you're gonna stay inside the party, but whoever wins that you'll be praying and supporting that they do the best job that they can.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:28

Well, that's what we as Uvaldians need to do. Whoever, even if it's not your chosen candidate, whoever is next elected Uvaldi County judge, we need to support them. We need to pray for them and hope that they do the best and hold them accountable if and when they don't. But we need them to succeed because they're there in that position. So let's support them to do so.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:49

I've been guilty of not doing that, but I agree that that should what all citizens should do from a local to a national level. Uh, I think we used to be better at that as a country when we were a Better country when we did that?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:02

Well, I'll say just as a candidate, and as where you were talking about subjecting myself to public perception, you're essentially in a publicly scrutinized job interview whenever you run for office. That's exactly what it is, right? And there is such a thing as um, there's actually a English chart Chartist poet whose name is Charles McKay. The Chartism was in the mid-1800s where they um it was a workers class political movement in England. Anyway, he wrote a book called The Madness of Crowds. It's very interesting. But there that is part of it that you're as a campaign that you have to think about in regards to public perception. Um, but I had to, before I filed, I had to be okay with the fact that, first of all, we live in a world of AI now. Am I okay with my image potentially being subjected to people making fun of me, um, making fun of my family, digging into all sorts of different parts about my life and um and scrutinizing that and being willing to either let that bother me or not let it bother me and stand by the reasoning for that or whatever. Um, but I will say uh most most of my campaign experience I'm just so thankful for and had a really great time. I loved meeting so many people. There were a few uh notable moments. There was one woman who is viciously wicked to me. And it's funny because she goes to church every Sunday. And you know, sometimes there's those it's it's just very interesting to me. Um, but I'll tell you some of the notable, kind of funny campaign comments that I got. If you want to hear those, yeah. They were all from older men. Okay, and all three of them did end up telling me that they voted for me. However, I do think that it's possible that sometimes you get people that tell both candidates that they voted for them.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:54

That's possible. And because they're correct, they're people pleasers.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:57

Yeah, okay. So anyway, okay, so the one, he goes, I told him I was running, and he goes, Well, that's a man's job. I thought that was funny. And then um I again I what did you say to that? I just kind of laughed and I was like, Well, I'm gonna try. Like there you go. Uh, but going back to uh subjecting myself to public perception and people making fun of me and all that kind of stuff, Margaret Thatcher was one of the best states women or states people of the statesmen of all time. And they, you know, cartoon imagery of or caricatures of politicians has been for hundreds of years. Well, they used to they did something, they called her Attila the Hen, they called her the milk snatcher, like, and she was still so wonderful. Like, there are always gonna be people that you're not gonna please, and that's just it is what it is. But another older man told me, and this is what he said. I do not agree with this, but he said Judge Mitchell will be the last gringo Uvalde County ever sees as Uvalde County judge.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:04

Was he happy about that?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:06

I don't, it was weird. I just kind of went on to a different conversation. I just kind of really took me off guard. I was like, all right. And then um the third person, again, an older man, I told him I was running for Uvalde County judge, and he goes, This is exactly what he said. You don't have the ass to take the chewing to be county judge.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:28

Wow. Who are these people?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:31

I I will not disclose. However, they did all tell me that they voted for me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:36

And which I find interesting, but well, I know who voted for you, my parents and I.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:42

Well, thank you. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:43

I also know a lot of people that um a lot of votes that you picked up between the first from the general primary and the runoff of people that that switched in. A lot of it that I heard and people that I talked to that in the beginning that they they were not supporting, they weren't like negative, but they were just like you're not even on their radar.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:10

And uh just from the way that you worked and worked and worked and worked that you had won them over, and they're like, I'm I'm in. I'm I'm willing to see how this shakes out. So uh, anyways, I think as a I'm I don't know if it recorded or not. I said uh I've only done it one time and I lost. And uh when you ran for city council, yeah, and you know, you did it because you wanted to win and it was frustrating, and it was e I was young at that time, I was like 29 or 30, and so I had to do uh I really wasn't mature enough to like not get uh annoyed or mad or uh even maybe a little bit jaded about it, and then I got over it, but then it turned out to be a great thing for me because I moved away for a little bit and lived in Midland and learned some stuff. Yeah. Uh and uh anyways, so yeah, no one can no one can say I didn't want it.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:04

I think I definitely I wanted to win and I put in a lot of effort in order to have the best chance possible for that. Something I took very seriously. So he got 1,216 votes, I think, and I got 1,046. So it was 176 votes difference, which whoever is out there with calculator doing my math, you're gonna be like, oh, she was off. Well, I I know it's 176 votes difference, and I know I got 1,046. So that would be a two. Anyway, what is it?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:32

I still think politically you're a spring chicken. So what's next on your list?

SPEAKER_01 1:11:37

Uh well, right now. Watch out, Brandon Herrera.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:39

You're going down. You could have won. You're going down 2028. That little fuzzball gremlin.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:47

So I'm going to take the next three and a half years before the next filing date for Uvalde County judge, which I at this time feel that I would run again. But I'm going to take the next three and a half years as a private citizen to enjoy my life not being burdened with that responsibility. And again, support whoever is elected and hold them accountable. Because holding people accountable is difficult. When you go against the status quo with truth and accountability, you're always going to get pushback on that, which I obviously did in my my truth mailers.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:22

Is there any chance that you would be, since you're willing to subject yourself to painful things, uh going and uh maybe getting a law decree between now and then? And uh that way you could maybe run for one of the other three positions that also are judge? Are you talking about uh district attorney, county attorney, or district judge?

SPEAKER_01 1:12:49

I think that you would need significant more experience and length of time in order to well, the qualification just say a legal degree. It does, but in order to do and again, we failed our county court audit. Um I I just think that someone who is in that type of law responsibility really needs so no, I would not run for any of those offices. Plus, I am interested in the multifaceted aspect of Uvaldi County judge. So across the United States, it is pretty much uh accepted in the political world that Texas county judges are one of the the third most highest elected office you can seek in the in the United States. And that's because it is the only one that you can hold all three powers executive, legislative, and judicial under one office. Um and so it's it's a people job, it's a very multifaceted job, it's a workers' job, it's one that requires a lot of energy. I have for a lot of my life um kind of associated my natural personality with that of a border collie because I am easily trainable, I'm high energy, I um do well in the working pen and I'll take care of my own goats, but I expect you to take care of what you're doing over there too. I'll play nice, but I can also, you know, snap a little bit if you're not taking care of your goats.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:11

That's a great local analogy. I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:13

I I am a border collie at heart. That's uh I just am. I I'm high energy and easily easy to train.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:19

Well, Bill Bill Mitchell was a Democrat, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:14:21

Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:22

Well, did he like um did he espouse any of their beliefs like nationally?

SPEAKER_01 1:14:27

Did he what?

SPEAKER_04 1:14:27

Did he like was he like in line with their with their like defense?

SPEAKER_01 1:14:32

I think that 40 years ago, being a Democrat was a much more conservative.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:37

It was, but but did he change with the times? Like was he more of a liberal?

SPEAKER_01 1:14:43

No, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:45

I um so in Don McLaughlin's race, there was a issue where I was asked to take care of something locally involving the Republican Party. And I Judge Mitchell asked me to take care of it, and so when I went back to report to him that I had done so, he I was the first time I'd ever heard him be like a party um centric, where he he said something to the effect of, well, you Republicans need to get your stuff together.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:16

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:16

And I I was like kind of shocked that he did that because or that he said that because so many Uvalde County Republicans, I mean, so 16 years ago, John Yackle ran against Judge Mitchell on the Democrat primary, and uh Judge Mitchell beat him. John Yackle only got thirty two thirty-two point thirty-four point four percent of the vote. And um, but so many Uvalde County Republicans voted on the Democrat primary that year in 2010 in order to make sure that Judge Mitchell stayed judge. So um I I would say that he was definitely a conservative Democrat, but uh I did hear him sometimes be a little more party-centric in some of his interesting speech. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:59

What else you got, McNew?

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SPEAKER_02 1:16:01

Um let's uh Victoria, what's your opinion? If uh a call drops, whose responsibility is it to call back?

SPEAKER_04 1:16:09

Yeah. That's my own mind.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:11

Whoever called.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:12

Whoever called.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:12

Yeah, if I called you and the call drops, it's my responsibility to call you back. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:16

Okay, you heard it here first. What about this? Like when someone like I'll do this to my brother. Like, I'll he'll call me and then I'm working for an hour and then I call him back. And then I he and then he won't answer, but he won't call me back for an hour. Like he's like he's like teaching me a lesson. Do people do that with you? Do you know what I'm talking about? I love teaching lessons. You do that? Yeah, I hate that.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:40

No one does that to me.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:41

Well, that's that was.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:42

But I do have a funny since you're gonna go on, I don't know what little list you have going there, but this is something that I oh, there it is. Okay, so what do you all right? With all the different fees whenever you're traveling on an airline now, like there's no such thing as free baggage anymore. If I can prove that I weigh less than the average passenger, shouldn't I get my overweight baggage fee waived?

SPEAKER_02 1:17:07

Yes, that would be a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:09

Come on, or like a kid, like my five-year-old only weighs 40 pounds.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:15

Like I think that people would consider that discriminating, probably.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:19

They would consider that they would.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:21

It's not true though.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:22

I mean, you're just talking about weight.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:23

Yeah, yeah. Anyway, I think at one point we're gonna have everyone's gonna be getting on a scale. And I think that's gonna be good for the environment. Like to get on the plane, like just so that they can calculate everything, like you're nothing's gonna change payment, but like when you're scanning your ticket, you're gonna be doing it on a scale and it's gonna read your weight for everyone behind you in line, and you're gonna see people are gonna be like, I don't want first class going first anymore. They're gonna be like, I want to be the last, that'd be the big fat ladies who wants to be last on the plane.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:54

Are there like a ton of fat people on the planes now? I haven't been in an airport forever.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:58

Nah, I mean, it's just normal, and I don't know. And there's I don't know. I don't have an opinion.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:04

What do you mean? You're there all the time.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:06

Uh I mean, you see like a couple, like you notice, but everybody else just seems to be I always saw thin people flying like 20 years ago, though. Are you do you confidently pull the the cords and know the difference between what's the ceiling fan and what's the light?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:24

No. No, I do not.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:26

Do you think it's a few?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:27

But I do think the center one is always the light, and the one that's off center is the same thing. Yeah. Well, I don't like the fan on. Fans are annoying to me, so I never have them on yet. Not a fan of fans.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:38

I don't know if you cannot sleep without a fan blowing directly. And I hate that. Like, I cannot have something blowing on me.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:44

The sound in general is annoying. I don't like a ceiling fan on.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:48

Wasn't that a good point though, McNeil?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:49

It was. Thank you. I hate wearing Texas Tech stuff when I travel because I don't want people to talk to me. You know what I mean? Like, I don't want someone to go, hey, guns up, wreck 'em. Like then I have to acknowledge them. So I've gotten aware like when I travel, I was like, oh shit, I don't want to wear that because a stranger may Did you go to tech? Talk to me. I did. Did you grab me ask me where you graduated? I did not. Okay. But I feel like that's a very Lubbock thing. So I'm in for that.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:14

So uh Lubbock used to be dry, so everyone would go party in level land. Yeah, that's what I know about tech.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:22

Wait, where did you graduate from?

SPEAKER_01 1:19:24

So I only I did my associate's degree here in uh the junior college, Southwest Texas junior college, and then I moved to Africa and lived there for three years and got married to my husband and then moved back and just went to the workforce.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:35

Okay. Well, I thought maybe you graduated from a college.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:38

Duse. Do you know when cowboy jeans became gay?

SPEAKER_01 1:19:42

Probably when Brad Paisley started wearing them.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:44

I went to Rock and R before my trip to get some jeans. Uh I was concerned that um I I'll be honest, I needed I needed a one inch bigger. I was kind of like my jeans are feeling a little tight in the wheels. Oh, okay. And I was gonna be like sitting on planes and in cars for a long period of time. So I was like, I just want to have like just I'm gonna be on vacation a little bit. I want to have a little just a little more wiggle room. I want a little more wiggle room, so to say. So I need a one inch bigger in my pants. But I got limited on time, and so I went to rockin' R. And oh, they have all these cowboy jeans, and I'm like, geez, the village people wouldn't wear these fucking things. When did they become so gay? That's just a niche analogy. I bought the three least gay pair they had, and one of them is like the original cowboy cut Wrangler, which I don't belong in those. Like, that's like I should be I I need to be wearing cowboy cut ginkos or like wranglers that could pair ginkos. Like, they're just not for me. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:43

I can't wait to make the AI picture of you in the in the cowboy jeans.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:46

I don't have a problem with choosing jeans that are too feminine. No, sorry.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:50

Yes, well, you would have a problem picking masculine jeans in Uvalde, Texas. Is Brad Paisley gay?

SPEAKER_01 1:20:56

No, he's not.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:58

Not gay like because you love me. He's deaf, right? In one ear or something.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:01

I have no idea. I don't listen, so I'm not like a huge music or actor, actress, knowledge base person. Like, and as far as general music, I listen to a lot of Christian music and like classic country. I don't listen to hardly any mainstream anything.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:20

You're not in the country zeitgeist.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:22

I'm not in the what?

SPEAKER_04 1:21:23

Country zeitgeist, like the current uh culture no, I don't like any of that.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:28

It's all it's all crap.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:30

It has the Nashville scene, is well you like that kid. What's his name? Uh the guy that comes out here to hunt sometimes? Country guy?

SPEAKER_02 1:21:38

Young guy, Kevin Federline.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:40

Mm-mm. You're talking about the one, it's called the Hit Record Ranch. His name it's over there.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:46

Yeah, I do. I do think it's pretty good. Yeah. I don't I haven't listened to Name of Music.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:51

It probably is good, but I haven't.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:53

It's probably not. I was sitting in the in Amsterdam at the airport, and I came up with a new saying kind of racist, but kind of funny. I'm gonna test it on you all and say something that's as rare as an Indian in closed-toed shoes. What do you think?

SPEAKER_04 1:22:12

Like an Indian from India?

SPEAKER_02 1:22:14

Yeah, they all had sandals. I love it. Everywhere, like a whole family, you would be like, You came to the airport in sandals, and you're going to be barefoot for 40 feet of your journey. Couldn't care less. So if you hear if you like if I find a truck for the lot and they're like, How rare is this truck? And I'm like, It's as rare as an Indian and closed toes, cheese. I love it, dude. All right, no, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:35

I don't know if it had recorded in the beginning, but I did know that agreeing to come onto this podcast that anything I say on here will potentially be used against me in the future. If you want to cut it up, I need to have a caveat in the fact that I love y'all personally and I love your podcast because I do believe that like open, authentic, uh common sense conversations are incredibly important. But there have been things that you've said that I really don't like or appreciate. Okay, but like, for example, you had said like two episodes two or three episodes ago.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:06

Oh, really? I don't know. See, everyone thinks I remember all the things I say. Yeah, but I don't remember any of it. It's like I'm blacked out when I'm in here.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:14

I just I that was the the one the one big thing. I was like, oh my gosh, I can't like did y'all really.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:19

Although I did see him and Marjorie Taylor Green fishing on a boat.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:23

Have you ever seen her do push-up and pull-ups? I know, but it's impressive.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:26

Well, they're they're like they're so upset they're gonna go fish on a fishing trip. Yeah, I don't get it, guys.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:32

The amount of tattoos in Germany was shocking to me. I'm you think like you go around and you validate, and you're like, oh shit, that's a lot of tattoos. Nothing. Nothing. It looks like we just figured out tattoos last week.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:46

They're just trying to stand out, I think, huh?

SPEAKER_02 1:23:47

And but it's all lightly complexed white people, so the tattoos do stand out more. It really was uh surprising to me. Yeah, what's the what's your opinion on tattoos, Victoria?

SPEAKER_01 1:23:58

I do not have any tattoos. Um, I think that it's uh to be committed to that being on my skin my whole life, it takes a you know more power than people to do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:09

If you found yourself in just a horrible horror movie scenario and it you're in you're in line and they're like you're at a tattoo parlor and it's death or tattoo, what tattoo are you getting?

SPEAKER_01 1:24:20

So in Persia, Iran, oh no, I'm sorry, actually in Egypt, children are kidnapped and um raised, Christian children are kidnapped and then raised by um Islamists, and so they tattoo them when they're two or three years old, a little cross on their wrist. So I would probably do that.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:40

I would get a priest collar around my whole neck.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:42

Wow. Nice people would know no ragretes. Is that what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 1:24:47

Do people call you Vicky?

SPEAKER_01 1:24:49

No, so yes and no. So uh when I was young, like up until fourth grade or so, my family primarily called me Vicky. But around about that time, the fairly odd parents came out, and the theme song is Icky Vicky, she's so sticky. The sound of a voice makes little kids cry. And there was a boy who I had to crush on who would call me that, and I was like, um, no. I was like, my legal name is Victoria, and everyone shall refer to me as this from now on forevermore. So I was very adamant at you know, fourth grade, nine or ten years old, that I would only be called Victoria.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:31

And I knew the answer to this question, but I had to ask.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:34

Oh, so you you've heard the story?

SPEAKER_04 1:25:35

No, no, no, but I knew you probably wouldn't like being called Vicky.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:38

I'm actually more okay with it now. Oh mostly because I've met older women who go by Vicky, like Vicky Weisinger, a gym, classy, wonderful woman. And so I'm like, you know, I'm okay with the name Vicki now. So I'm good with it.

unknown 1:25:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:50

Do you have a personal do you have a website or what what what was your campaign website?

SPEAKER_01 1:25:54

Victoria4Udaldi.com.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:56

What's the number four?

SPEAKER_01 1:25:57

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:58

Okay. All right.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:59

F-O-R, because we're trying to be classy like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:02

All right. Here you go.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:04

I I didn't realize this the other day, and I got an email, and I have a website that's just my name. That's not that crazy. But I didn't remember doing it. Oh, you made it a long time ago? Yeah, like I didn't know that I had that, and I got like a random like go daddy email. I was like, why don't you show some love to stephenmcnew.com? I was like, what the hell is this? Maybe your dad made it for you. And I clicked on it and it was and it was there, and they had like a little, you know, that now that AI is so easy, like they had made like a little holding page like coming soon with like a silhouette of a cactus or something. Uh I was like, man, this is pretty gay. I remember you or is it cool? I don't, I'm still in the face. It's gay.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:45

I remember your dad saying that he he should see my jeans. He knew you were gonna be president one day. A lot of people uh done I think uh Mark uh Zuckerberg lives in Puerto Rico, doesn't he?

SPEAKER_02 1:26:54

So if you want to drop me a line, go to stephenmcnew.com and you can email me. I'm just kidding him. Wait, did you buy the you bought the Yes I do? I guess I own it. What the hell? How did that work, Al? I don't remember. Well, you you don't drink. How the hell would you even I don't know how long I've had it? It looks cool though. But now I made it. Contact us.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:11

Does that go to anything if you go?

SPEAKER_02 1:27:13

So if you go down, then you you can email it. This is a lie. I swear to you, this is this is copyright 2026. Yeah, yeah. So it emailed me and then it had an AI holder with like a stupid like uh Arizona cactus, and I was like, well, now I gotta go in and like change it to like more of a hill country looking scene, but I could only use their AI images if I wanted to use my own image, I had to pay more money, and so this is as close as I could get for essentially free. It's kind of close.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:43

Yeah, it kind of looks like Sonora.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:45

Yeah, yeah, it kind of looks like maybe like if standing on the county line of Kenny and Uvalde County somewhere. So um what else?

SPEAKER_04 1:27:55

Have you finished all our notes? Yeah, pretty much.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:58

I mean, this other stuff is I don't want to put That on Victoria. I mean, I have a deal about uh I think it was a real pleasure having you in here. We loved it. Thank you, Victoria. And for supporting the show for as long as you had. You're our first supporter. And I'm sorry that we had technical to technical difficulties. Sorry, guys.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:14

They lost like 30 minutes of my interview. And it was good.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:17

I think it was like 20 minutes. There might be some on there. It was excellent. No, there is some on there. Yes. Look at that.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:22

Neck pun.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:24

You're going to I'm going to mail you our first crack.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:26

Oh, I like that you value license weight sticker. Where do they still have those at the chamber or anywhere?

SPEAKER_01 1:28:30

So this was the pre-Chamber CVB, CVB.

unknown 1:28:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:34

The Convention Visitors Bureau,

Precision Rifle Shooting Gets Nerdy

SPEAKER_01 1:28:36

yeah. I'm surprised no one asked me anything about shooting sports.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:39

I was going to ask you, how's um does your husband do that too, or is this you?

SPEAKER_01 1:28:43

Well, yes, I'm his uh his tag long. But yeah, so when we lived in South Africa, we did IDPA, which is International Defensive Pistol Association. So that's like practical application from concealment, um, tactical sequence pistol shooting. But uh whenever we moved back, we the closest IDPA club match is in Bull Verde. And so we've done that one a few times. Oh, actually, Bandera has one as well. So we've done both of those a few times, but we really got into PRS, which is Precision Rifle Series, which is long-range precision rifle shooting and way more expensive than pistol shooting. So we should have stayed with that. Yeah. But I love it. I love all of the, you know, your dope and your velocity and um also the course of fire. So remembering, you know, target X, Y, and Z are at 490, 520, and uh 692 yards, and having that and knowing where to dial your dope for it and how many shots per target off of which uh barricade or like which position and all of that. I I really love the kind of the nerd side of of the whole day of shooting.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:52

Have you ever thought of like I I'm gonna say this and I don't want to sound ignorant, but I feel like that that's like one of those kind of like that's a smaller pool. It's not like pickleball, like uh every asshole is playing pickleball. That you can like maybe like be like on the Olympic team or something for something like that for shooting sports.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:13

Yes, you can.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:14

Remember last Olympics had like that guy. The old man with one bill.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:17

Okay, yeah, but he was actually really good. Okay, so in Texas, so there's a a club, uh a match that they do in Navasota. It's called Texas Precision Matches, and some of your best shooters in the whole world are they shoot at that match, and so we go in and shoot that one quite a bit, but like a a two-day match is your pro-level matches, and the those guys will be like to shoot in the top 10 is like you've only made two or three misses out of 200 rounds. Wow, and like it's insane, it's crazy. And like you're having to factor in wind, and the targets are anywhere from 400 to 1,000 yards.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:54

How much is a rifle, like a nice pro rifle?

SPEAKER_01 1:30:57

Probably like eight to twelve thousand dollars.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:59

Oh my gosh. It's like nice.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:01

Because you're gonna have a custom cut barrel, your action, uh, your they're all like pretty much custom calibers. So I shoot a six BRA, started with a six GT prior to that. These aren't just, you know, because you have to factor in, I mean, the just the rifle itself, your scope, the um, your custom trigger, the chassis, like all of the things for like a uh actual competitive sports rifle, it's probably gonna be somewhere.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:28

Have you ever seen Quiggly Down Under?

SPEAKER_01 1:31:29

Yes, I love Quiggly Down Under.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:31

Can what is that gun? Isn't that just like a Henry rifle? Uh 6.5.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:36

That was open sights.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:37

Uh open sights. That's what I'm that's what I'm talking about right there. It's also a movie. Well, maybe it's the Indian, not the arrow, bud.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:44

And people say that Creedmoor uh 6.5 Creedmoor is gay.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:47

No, it's actually amazing. So I also occasionally do run and gun matches, which is like um kind of a cross-country, like you have all of your gear and all your ammo and your um your firearms and everything on you, and you do like you run through the hills, and you'll have over like eight miles, you'll have your eight different stages. Um and I've shot that with a 6-5 Creedmoor because the our rifle for that is like a carbon fiber uh stock, so it's like super light and it's also very dependable and does well with the wind and everything. So I'd like to.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:22

What about this? When you shoot a rifle or any gun, there's percuss, it's percussive. Are you worried about brain damage?

SPEAKER_01 1:32:29

So we use uh silencers or it's also called a suppressor or a can. We have suppressors on so in in PRS we call it civilized shooting. People who shoot with a suppressor are civilized, and then you have people who shoot with a break, which is makes it super loud.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:45

It is I've had one of those, it's loud.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:46

Huh?

SPEAKER_04 1:32:47

It like blows it back at you.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:48

Yes, but your recoil, it reduces recoil, but it's super crazy loud. So you actually get our suppressors actually have a kind of a break inside the suppressor. So I could I do wear shoot hearing protection, but I you you could be right next to it and not have to wear hearing protection and before.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:05

You answered my question.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:06

Because we shoot civilized.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:08

The more you know. I'm gonna get one of those. If anybody wants to trade uh one of these fancy rifles for an old truck, hit me up. We might be able to make a deal. I'm like just splitting that out, Shannon Z.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:20

But you can so we have a club match every month at the 501 ranch here in Uvalde. And if you don't have a rifle, you Zane Kuhn is the organizer, one of Ziggy's really good friends, and you can loan a rifle from him free of charge, just pay for the ammo, and it's like a hundred bucks or so for the ammo. And he'll even like provide you the ammo and you just reimburse him for the because when you reload ammunition, you reuse the brass and you put in a new primer, you put a new powder, and you put in a new bullet.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:52

So I actually won uh one of these contests uh at the Palomino Fest with the little BB gun or whatever. I shot out the whole bullseye. I beat my kids, I beat the shit out of them. So, anyways, it's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:05

Well, we enjoyed it. Something we can do is a couple that I I enjoy it too.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:12

I see your videos and I was like, that's just a really cool thing to get into. I didn't know it does dollars very hot. It looks very hot.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:19

Uh it's not always hot, depends on what time of year. Most when we shoot Navasota, like there's the Steel Classic, which is always in April, I believe. It is usually cold and wet.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:32

What does the rifle weigh?

SPEAKER_01 1:34:34

So everyone's rifles weigh different, right? So a lot of people put extra weights on their chassis. Uh my rifle only weighs like 18 or 19 pounds. Oh, wow. Ziggy and Zane, their rifles weigh like 25 pounds.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:46

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:47

Yeah. But I need to be able to actually pick the thing up, right? And like move it and yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:53

And run with it.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:54

Not really run with it. Whenever you're shooting positionally, so you have two minutes, usually there's like three or four different positional changes. So it's really like, you know, it'll be like tires or culverts or something. So you just, but you also have a really heavy sandbag. So you have to be able to like pick it up with a sandbag, move it, and get your position built again in order to shoot off of it.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:16

I know it would be controversial and like probably bad for the sport, but it would be interesting if they had like famous like replications like the JFK shot or like the bell tower. Like, if they had like you try to hit this target like three times when it's moving, like they recreate it. Like you get the mythbusters guys in there. The movie JFK is about that. Yeah, that would be crazy.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:38

So, this is another one of those instances where I'm not gonna have an opinion.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:41

Yeah, I know I'm not saying it's a good idea. I'm just saying people would what you I could get a million views on that on YouTube, Miss Saying.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:49

I bet it's already on there.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:50

It probably is.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:50

Yeah, but but have you heard of the single shoot uh is it single shooter society?

SPEAKER_01 1:35:56

A single action shooting society. Yeah, so that's like your cowboy shooting. So that's where they use revolvers and um like lever action.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:04

When you were doing the pistol shooting, you were not shooting like a cowboy.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:07

No, no, no. This is shooting. We primarily shot Glocks. However, I have uh seen the light with the staccato, and that is my pistol of the new law enforcement. The guys they're made here in Texas, and they they are just I I mean, I've shot a Glock for 15 years, and whenever I shot a few shots out with the staccato, I was like, this is so much better. It's like a it's like butter. It's so nice.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:33

It's like the Cadillac.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:34

Yeah, I don't like a canic. I am not a fan of a canic.

unknown 1:36:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:38

Uh, you know, you could be like Oxen, he has uh Chinese throwing stars that look like uh the A's they're they're like the What do you mean?

SPEAKER_04 1:36:48

We didn't talk about this. What happened yesterday? What do you mean what happened yesterday?

SPEAKER_02 1:36:52

We broke down on the way back for we broke down moving my cars or some vehicles I had stored over at a place in Yancey, and then Ox and I spent like eight hours trying to get the broke down 1972 Chevy back to Yankee.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:08

And then you brought one tiny little strap. We made it. We made it though.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:13

So an adventure.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:15

Your blue truck out there is super nice.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:16

Thank you. Yeah, Dodge.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:18

Yeah.

Privacy Surveillance And Closing Thoughts

SPEAKER_01 1:37:19

I um my husband really wants a new truck, and so he's looking at all the things, and I'm like, man, like with the whole like kill switch thing that they've put on the books in order to be able to put into vehicles and the tracking and like all the stuff. I'm like, just get me an old vehicle.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:36

That's what I'm I'm all about. The old trucks, all the new ones like literally just they start talking to you when you don't know. It's like, look, pay attention to the road, put your eyes. Do they do that now? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:45

But there's like all these like ding ding. Like there's like noises for everything.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:52

You can hear it, like check in on you. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:56

Susan's story Rubio. Actually, um, I got into their new Cadillac or something several months ago, and it was like it had, I forget what they call it, but it was like a speaker from the backseat to the front seat.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:11

Just audio enhancement from the backseat to the front.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:13

It was strange. It took me like a few minutes to get used to it, but it was like as if you were wearing a headset in a h helicopter. Like you're it was weird.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:22

Shut an old G Motor, you know, maybe surveillance.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:25

In my big truck, when I back up, the radio cuts off. Holly.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:30

Ox, uh, we didn't talk about this. He uh they called him like on Wednesday or Thursday and like, hey, come by the shop, we got you a new truck.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:37

Yeah, a new truck. They were excited. They're like, aren't you happy?

SPEAKER_02 1:38:40

And it's got all cameras in it. It's what he's under surveillance the whole time the truck is moving. The whole time they're watching until what 15 minutes after mobility.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:48

They say 10 minutes, but the little they were like, but whenever the lights on, it's recording. I get up in the middle of the night and look, that light's on.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:55

See, there's so much in regards to um politics and government that we're ceding our freedom in the name of safety and convenience. And that's how I firmly feel. And I do think there's a lot of people.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:15

Is the day you gave it away. Like that that genie is out of the bottle. Like what now is you need to quit worrying about your privacy and worrying about your body and what you what you agree to put into that. And for some people, I think that's already gone. Shadow.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:33

Like so yeah, you go down that rabbit hole though, which I did several years ago. You start cooking everything from scratch. I make my own mayonnaise, all right. Like that's the level of making everything from scratch at home. I am, but you're gonna have to do so many more dishes. Like the amount of dishes to cook from scratch is obscene.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:51

So would you is so I know some people wear this with a badge of honor, and some people are offended by it.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:57

A trad wife is uh No, I think that's I think it's aspirational. I think being it if if you were What is your definition for those that don't know?

SPEAKER_02 1:40:05

Because I don't know, I really know.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:07

Traditional wife is what trad wife stands for. Okay, I would say that it's just um being invested in having your home be your ministry. You are taking care of your home and your family to your best ability possible. You're not outsourcing your work by having you know takeout every night, you're taking accountability for enjoying the work in your home.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:31

And you bow down to your husband, making a house a home.

unknown 1:40:35

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:37

All right. Is that does that sound like now? Do you think we could find ox any kind of wife? A trans wife? I'm looking for how about a trans wife. No, I'm looking black man, Asian femboy. Dude, this will be great for the podcast. What?

SPEAKER_04 1:40:54

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_02 1:40:54

If you could get a gay black dwarf, I'm in.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:58

How will you be in?

SPEAKER_02 1:40:59

What would you do? I'll pay for the wedding. I'll fly, okay. Yeah, we'll do that. Buy you two seats on Southwest to go get married in Vegas.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:06

Once again, great listening, but as a participant, I have no opinion. So I will say that um I think your first step would be to pray for her.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:14

Well, oh, I'm not looking. Manifest, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:16

No, not manifesting. That is different.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:18

No, I'm not looking.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:19

This is not a really well, I would describe her as a church lady at the Catholic Church. Is there a candle she could maybe light for companionship? There is a candle. For my mic for my micle.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:38

I'll pray for you for a wife.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:40

No, no, I don't need it. I don't need anything. If if God wills it, it it's in his plan in them finding it.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:44

But you have to pray for it.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:45

Yeah, but I don't want it.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:46

What if we crowdfunded one of those like real life dolls that he could put in his truck? It's really creepy, but wait, what if I would give the cameramen something to watch while you're driving around the country?

SPEAKER_04 1:41:57

I don't think the men are I don't think cameramen are watching it. I think AI's watching it.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:00

Oh. What if AI is what if AI becomes like stalkers and then they're like watching they think certain humans are more interesting than others and then they're like creeping on you? That's coming.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:13

We already have like all the geofencing with our you know our ad profile, right? So the the ads that we're given just based on their knowledge of where we've visited in the last 30 days is crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:29

I thought about this is a weird thing. I I thought about a pawn shop. I was like, I'm gonna try this. The pawn shop. Thought about it, it showed up on my Facebook though.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:39

How about that? I believe it. And then I went to the pawn shop. I was like, I need to go in there.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:45

Uh all right, I gotta go do some stuff.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:48

All right. Well, thank you, Victoria. Um, it was great having you. Um oh, shout out to all our sponsors, uh Ziggy's, um, Ruby's Lounge. I'm sorry, Renee, we didn't make it. Uh he was out of town and I was dog tired. Sapphire Wings, um Gars' Auto Detailing, River City Bail Bonds, Sapphire Wings, Rubies. Uh there's another one. Concrete um Diamond Cut concrete Masonry, sorry. Shout out Johnny Bones. And oh, do you like our frogs?

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I love the frogs. I saw them when they were still in the package. I came by too. Yeah, I came by and I wonder if Ziggy would approve. I they're real frogs. They're amazing.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:28

They are.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:30

Maybe Ziggy would come by, we can take a picture with him in front of him.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:33

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SPEAKER_04 1:43:36

I would never mount them.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:37

They're really cool though.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:39

So see y'all next time. See ya.