Serving With Purpose

Serving in church isn't optional—it's transformative for your faith and the entire body of Christ. We explore how finding your unique role creates ownership, builds community, and leads to spiritual growth.

• First serving experiences often create lasting impressions about ministry importance
• Every serving position matters equally in God's eyes—there is no hierarchy
• People who serve consistently develop ownership and rarely become complainers
• Serving places you in growth-producing situations that require reliance on Christ
• Children who serve with parents are significantly less likely to abandon faith later
• The process typically begins with membership to ensure alignment with church mission
• Discovering your spiritual gifts helps you find your perfect serving fit
• Serving actually accelerates spiritual growth rather than hindering it
• Options exist beyond Sunday mornings—including weekday opportunities
• Moving from consumer to contributor transforms your entire church experience

We challenge you to take the next step in serving at your local church. You've been uniquely gifted and empowered—the church needs what only you can bring!

Transcript

Welcome to Jet Fuel Podcast

Speaker 1 0:00

Welcome to the Jet Fuel podcast , a series of Concord conversations . In each episode , our lead pastor and a guest will sit down and dive a little deeper into what we learned as a church that week . These are honest , practical conversations to fuel your faith and help you live it out with purpose and consistency . Or in other words , this is Jet Fuel for your soul .

Speaker 2 0:25

All right , well , welcome back everybody . Just want to say thank you so much for joining us for week five . This has been incredible , and so , whether you guys are in the car right now , or working out or doing whatever you're doing as you're listening , we just want to say thank you for taking this journey with us , because this study has been incredible , it's been challenging , it's been challenging and it's been a lot of fun to do this podcast so really excited about our topic today , and so it is something that I think is really going to challenge people , and it's this idea of serving in the local body , serving in the church , so it's going to be good .

Speaker 1 1:04

What before we even get started ? What is your like if you think back to ? Hey , this is the first time that I served at a local church . This is what I was doing

First Serving Memories

Speaker 1 1:13

. What did that look like for you ? Do you even remember ?

Speaker 1 1:16

I don't , I really don't , if I think all the way back the first thing I can remember doing is so I grew up in the same church with my grandparents . The first thing I can remember doing is so I grew up in the same church with my grandparents like small Baptist church , probably 200 people , and so the first thing I remember doing is my pawpaw was like the front door guy , like almost like not , he didn't hand out suckers , but he was the front door guy , and so my first memory of serving is he asked me one week . He's like hey , do you want to sit at the front door with me ? And I was like seven or something . He goes . I was like yeah , sure , and it was just the first experience I had at like being on , almost not really behind the scenes , but almost in a different like almost on the other side , yeah yeah , of like , oh , I'm seeing every single person walk in the door .

Speaker 1 2:01

they're all seeing who I am , they're to my , and it was just cool to be able to watch my grandpa do something that he had done for like . I didn't ever remember him not being at the front door and he , everyone knew him , everyone talked to him and I just that was the first thing I remember in noticing the importance of even something small as like opening the front door .

Speaker 2 2:22

Well , and it left an indelible mark on you .

Speaker 2 2:25

I mean you remember your grandfather serving and how important that was for him and so well , let me just start out with this . So when we think about serving , you know , a lot of different emotions come with that

Finding Your Sweet Spot

Speaker 2 2:39

, and there's so many foundational pieces that we need to move around in this conversation . But the first one might be this Like , let's talk about the different roles that people have to play , because , you know , in Scripture , especially in 1 Corinthians , there's this imagery given of being a body and how the body works . There's different parts to the body , and so how do we get people to understand their role , what they're good at , how do they find their sweet spot to understand ?

Speaker 1 3:11

Yeah , I think , well , one is for them to understand their gifting , and I don't think and I'm speaking for Concord too we could do a better job at helping our people figure out like , hey , these are the gifts that God has given you specifically , like this is how you're wired , this is what you're passionate about doing , this is how that can play into serving . And so I think figuring out your gifting would be first , but also remembering because this is the conversation that I have a lot with our volunteers is that one volunteer position isn't more important than the other one . Volunteers , is that one volunteer position isn't more important than the other one ? Like we ?

Speaker 1 3:46

If you just think about Concord , like you have community group leaders , you have people that hold the door , you've got people that are walking around the worship center talking to people as they come in . You have ushers , you have security , like all of these different levels , but none of them are more important than the other one . I think we can easily fall into a like oh well , they're the community group leaders or they're the ultimate volunteer , right ? Right , there's some kind of hierarchy , but there's really not . I mean .

Speaker 2 4:11

I think about my family . So my daughter teenager , she's about to be a junior in high school and she's been serving the last couple of years as a greeter at the door . But it just totally fits her personality and you know , honestly , she's one of the ones at the end of the sermon where I'm like hey , bow your heads , close your eyes . Nobody move . And she's one of the ones that stands up because they're getting to the next service to serve .

Speaker 2 4:32

And she loves it because it fits her personality . I mean bright and cheery , loves to smile and greet people , remember folks , and so it's really good . And I think if I wasn't the pastor , the Hello team would be totally where I am . Oh yeah , like I don't think I could handle the security or production or any of the buttons like that , but talking to people would be really , really cool . I think there is something too about maybe people carry expectations in . I was talking with someone today and , as they're a schoolte teacher , a lot of times when they come to church they want their profession and their area of service to overlap and go on . You know people look at them and go oh well , you're a teacher and you work with kids , so apparently you need to be in kids ministry . But I've heard a couple of people go . This is what I do professionally . The way I want to serve my church is maybe in a different capacity . Have you ever seen that around ?

Speaker 1 5:24

here , yeah , yeah , well , and it's almost for some people that I've had a conversation with . It's almost kind of an escape for them of getting away from what they normally do and being able to serve the local church in a different capacity , because they're like . I have talked to some teachers that are like I don't really want to volunteer in kids ministry , because I'm in kids all day , and so it's sometimes it's a way for them to say no , I want to do something different .

Speaker 1 5:47

This is also something I'm passionate about , and this is just a different way that I can do this .

Speaker 2 5:51

Well , there's a guy in our church and we had this conversation early on and he is a video editor for his profession and so we kept trying to get him in production .

Speaker 2 5:59

Trying to get him in production . He actually ended up serving in kids because he was like this is what I do professionally , but I want to be a part of doing something different and so I love that . But when we talk about roles and people finding their sweet spot , what they're gifted at , what kind of fills their cup ? Where

The Fruit of Serving Consistently

Speaker 2 6:17

they find that , how do you see that building ? When someone has a role that they serve in the church , how do you see that build ? Maybe consistency even at being at church ? Because we know right now the latest data shows that the average church member who would consider themselves a foundational core member comes to church 1.6 times a month , and so that's little less than half of the time that people are coming because of commitments on weekends and different things and that's a whole other rabbit trail . But when people serve a lot of times , it builds into their consistency . What's some of the fruit that you've seen from people being consistent in serving and that bearing fruit in their lives or their family ?

Speaker 1 7:05

Yeah , I think that one the consistency comes from . There's an accountability there , like someone knows , hey , this is where you serve , this is where you're going to be scheduled , this is when you're going to be scheduled , and so there's almost like a oh no , I have a responsibility , this is my spot , I need to fill my spot , and so there's some accountability there . But also it helps you , just like when you get involved in a community group . The same way , when you jump into serving , you meet people , people know who you are , they begin to know your family . There's like a connection there that comes , an even better connection than if you are just attending a worship service on Sunday morning . And so I think that consistency and accountability and just people knowing who you are and putting a face with a name or whatever that looks like , I think it just helps bolster the fact of like , oh , like . I'm wanted here , I'm needed here , like this is somewhere that I want to be , and so it just creates that culture .

Speaker 2 7:57

Well , and I think that goes into Aaron , the idea of ownership .

Speaker 2 8:01

You know so often the Western church has gotten into a very consumeristic mindset . We come to consume the worship . You know we want this kind of song , this kind of volume , this kind of vibe in the room . Hey , we want this kind of preaching , or people that dress this way and we get almost like we're building a Subway sandwich . Right , Like you know , I want that on there , but not that . I want this and that . But when you see people consistently coming , consistently serving , finding their spot , it's almost like there's a sense of ownership , Like this is my area , this is my church , and you know how it is . I'll tell you just from years of doing this . People that consistently serve and exhibit ownership , those are not the people we hear complaints from . No , absolutely not , Because when you're an owner , when you're invested , when you are contributing , you're not the ones picking everything apart , right ? So is that something that you've seen hold true ?

Speaker 1 8:57

with the people that you work with . Yeah , like usually , let's just take okay , let's take student ministry , for example . You talk to a student ministry volunteer that , whether they are leading a group or they're just kind of a presence down there during games , whatever that looks like , if they're consistently doing that and they're consistently around students , consistently around Miles and our other volunteers , like you said , they're usually not the ones that are complaining , they're usually the ones that are coming to us and saying , hey , I've noticed this , this could probably be better if we did this .

Speaker 2 9:23

I've noticed this .

Speaker 1 9:24

This could probably be better if we did this , providing solutions and well and I don't mean for this to sound as negative as it's going to , but those are also the people that I tend to listen to more is because they are consistent , they are serving , they're a part of what we do , they're a part of the ministry that we're trying to accomplish . They got by him .

Speaker 1 9:38

Yeah , and so I know that they want to be a part of what we're doing . They love what we're doing and so when they come to me or any other staff member really with something like hey , this could probably be better , I'm like , oh , you know what ? Yeah , let's try to look at that and talk through that . And it's just because I know they're bought into what we're doing .

Speaker 2 9:56

Well , you know , one of the things that we see in Scripture , in Acts 2 , which is like the community passage as they grew together and they kind of were forced into that idea of being together , they served each other . And so what is the benefit that we see relationally , as people serve together ?

Speaker 1 10:22

So I think what

Serving Like Jesus

Speaker 1 10:24

I have seen in the short amount of time that I have been doing ministry , when you get someone that starts to serve , usually that same person is probably going to join a community group . That same person is probably going to be more willing to go on a mission trip . That same person is probably going to be willing to do another step in the ministry that we do and it's because it's just kind of a natural progression of things . I think it goes back to the ownership but also the connection piece of when they're serving with other people and they're also watching what those people are doing , because most of the time those people in our community group , most of the time those people are going on mission trips . You see that and then it's an automatic oh , I need to do that , I want to do that , I want to be a part of what that is , and so that connection and community just automatically comes . And it's something that you miss when you're just coming in sitting down , attending .

Speaker 2 11:15

And these teams that we have . I mean , they take great pride in this and they are . We are this team and our security guys . Man , they got those curly earpieces . And man they are , we are the security team . Our medical team production .

Speaker 2 11:31

You know , I think Herndon and those guys , they made t-shirts that say you know , concord Production on it there is an ownership and you build friends , which is kind of this idea that serving together not only fulfills our role as believers to be a part of the body , fulfills our role as believers to be a part of the body , but it also gives us friendships , relationships you know , typically people very like-minded .

Speaker 1 11:58

Yeah well , it builds unity in what we're doing because we're all around the same purpose , we're trying to accomplish the same type of ministry , and so it's automatically going to bring almost a unified front to what we do .

Speaker 2 12:08

Yeah , Well , and one of the things that's been real unique at Concord that I absolutely love is we've seen , with some of the studies that come out now , that you know we got as a student pastor , we got in the Dave Kinnaman stuff , the you Lost Me generation , which scared every student pastor in the world , which was hey , no matter what you do when they go to college .

Speaker 2 12:36

No one is coming to college . They'll come back later when they have kids . But there was some talk after that came out of going one of the highest contributing factors to kids not walking away from the faith , not walking away from the local church in their college and young adult years where they looked back and it was kids who served with their parents and they said you know , it wasn't how great the pastor was , it wasn't how great the programs was , it wasn't about the environment , it was kids who saw serving , being important to their family and being a owner in the local church . They really did Like you were telling about with your grandpa of going man . It was important to him and it was a privilege . And so we see parents and kids serving together and that's an incredible thing , and something that goes along with that too , of like .

Speaker 1 13:22

It goes back to like , realizing your gifting and realizing your role . Because , like and we have these conversations all the time of like okay , like a fifth grader , for example , they want to serve Great , there are things that they can do , there's things that they can accomplish , there's things that we can like safely let them do , but also they can watch their parents model other things that they're doing as well . And so it just comes down to like , hey , where is the best fit for ? Wherever you are in your walk with Christ , whether you're a fifth , sixth grader or a 75-year-old that wants to continue serving ? Like , where is that gifting for you ? Where is that spot for ?

Speaker 2 13:57

you . So , aaron , we've talked a lot about you know the need for it like and the benefits of it , but let's talk a little bit about , maybe , a deeper spiritual side of it . Mark 10 45 , for example , is the famous passage that a lot of people use , that the Son of man did not come to be served , but to serve . Serving for our people , listening for our church , is really not optional , because we see Jesus serve . I mean , if you think about what is it ? John 13 , where it talks about Jesus washing his disciples' feet ? That's a big deal , because serving really models the way that Jesus did . So what are some of the things that people who are attending Concord or listening today when they think about their church ? What are some

Steps to Serve at Concord

Speaker 2 14:49

of the connections they need to make between the way Jesus said this is how you live and our modern world that a lot of times doesn't align with that ? How do we get people thinking about emulating Jesus's way of serving ?

Speaker 1 15:04

Well , it's a tough question because , when we think about the world that we live in , everything is telling us worry about yourself , make sure that you're fine , do what you need to do , do what you want to do . It's all about you , right ? It's all about the selfish , and so I think when you make that step to start serving one , it's going to automatically take you into an uncomfortable spot that you're not used to being in because we're okay with being uncomfortable .

Speaker 1 15:31

We are okay with being uncomfortable and it's because you're doing something that your flesh it doesn't make any sense Like it doesn't make sense for your flesh to do something for someone else , because your flesh is all about yourself . But when you start doing these things and serving and getting into this uncomfortable position , it's automatically going to grow you in your faith because you're going to have to rely on Christ to do this , because you're going to be stepping into things Like . There's one example I won't say his name because he would get too embarrassed if I was talking to him about on this podcast . You can tell me later , I'll tell you later .

Speaker 1 16:05

But it's a guy in our community group and he wanted to start serving . He didn't know what that looked like , had never really done it , kind of young in his faith and we sat down and had this conversation and I said , hey , you know , either kids or students would be a great option for you . And his automatic response to me was I wouldn't know what to say . I would not know what to say to a kid or a student that had questions for me and I told him I was like that's exactly the point . You jump into this spot of a kid asking you a tough question , or a high school student asking you a tough question . You're not gonna know . But what that's gonna do for the very next time is you will know , you will have that answer and it's an automatic growth point for you because you're going to be put into this uncomfortable position that Christ is going to use to just further grow you in your faith .

Speaker 2 16:54

Right , and so you're growing , but there's also some humility . That goes along with that , because Jesus in John 13 is literally washing feet and there are what you said earlier , some positions that automatically people hold in high honor . I was talking to my wife recently and she told she just said it's just , I feel like a toe in this . She was like my job is to count on Sunday morning .

Speaker 2 17:16

She's like it seems so important , like you could just lose a toe and it doesn't matter . You know she's not a mouth or whatever , and she just said you know , sometimes with that it's just , you know you don't view your thing important . But you know , with her counting and there's another person that does it with her and you think about that . But it allows us to make plans .

Speaker 2 17:37

See who's there you know trends and things like that , but sometimes you know Jesus getting down and washing people's feet . It's very humbling . It's not filled with honor or glory and sometimes the things that maybe our medical staff or production staff , our parking team like how great is Concord's parking team ? That they're never going to get the recognition that they deserve .

Speaker 2 17:57

And maybe they just feel like a pinky toe , but you need that to balance and to propel the body forward . So I think that's a big deal . So let's just get to it with Concord . What does it take to serve at Concord ? What's the process that somebody would go through that they're listening here today and they say I want to start serving , I don't know where to serve , I don't know what I've got to do to be able to serve . What would be the process if somebody came up to you and says hey , I've been coming . What is step one , two , three , four , five ?

Speaker 1 18:35

So step one , which is probably the one that we get the biggest pushback on , is you have to be a member here , like you have got to to be a member here , like you have got to be an official member here , and that's the one that we kind of get the biggest pushback on One . I think it's because people don't really understand membership and the importance of that , which is that's a whole nother conversation to have , but that's step one . And the reason that we use that as step one is because we know , hey , you have gone through the process of that . You understand , this is what we teach , this is why we believe what we believe . This is what we're doing as a church . You are saying that you agree with that and that you are joining in that mission .

Speaker 2 19:15

And covenanting with us in our mission and purpose .

Speaker 1 19:17

At that point . Okay , now we can move to the next step .

Speaker 2 19:21

And with membership that runs through our starting point class Correct yeah , yeah , yeah , and right now it's about once a month that we do that , but we're actually working on a new version of that that will launch in September . That's a two-week thing . So anybody that's listening that says , hey , I want to start this process of knowing who Concord is what they do .

Speaker 2 19:39

That's step one of getting plugged in going do our hearts . Theology , doctrine , mission , all of that aligns more than kicking the tires . It's asking , and we ask them to pray through it . Some join right then , others take the covenant home and pray through it .

Speaker 1 19:58

So that's step one for somebody . Yeah , that's step one . And so in starting point , one of the things that we do is we kind of give a glimpse of all of our ministry areas and kind of talk through like what those needs are and with the new like format that we're gonna be doing in September , like a whole section that we're gonna be doing is , hey , we're gonna be walking through what are your spiritual gifts ?

Speaker 1 20:17

Like what does that look like ? How has God wired you ? What are you passionate about ? And so a whole section of that class is going to be hey , this is how you're gifted , this is where that fits into what we do , and so then at that point , we can point you into a direction . Let's say that you get on the spiritual gifts , like one of your high points is like hospitality . Well , I'm automatically going to point you to something like our food team or our welcome team or something like that , where you're constantly in communication with people and interacting with people . Maybe yours is more of kind of like a background role , or you're quiet and you don't Serving administration .

Speaker 1 20:53

Yes , I'm going to point you to a different place . And so for me , like those are kind of the first two steps of like , hey , do you agree with what we do ? Do you agree with what we teach , what ?

Speaker 2 21:02

we believe . Do you want to ?

Speaker 1 21:03

be a part . And then at that point , how has God wired you and how can we as a staff help point you in the right direction ? Because it's one thing to know what your giftings are , but that doesn't always correlate with okay , now where do I do with it ? And so that's where kind of our staff comes along to help you with that .

Speaker 2 21:22

Yeah , and then of course we have , you know , all of our paperwork , the background checks the best practices , things like that , Depending on what section you're doing . And then there's like a partnership we call shadowing right , where , once all of those steps are completed and we get to know the person , we know who they are , we're all in this together . Then we partner them . We don't just drop people in boiling water like hey , all of a sudden you're in charge of all the camera switchers upstairs .

Speaker 1 21:48

And you're like well , hold on , or hey , I'm in charge of a community group . I'll just speak highly of one area , Our worship ministry . I've seen them in the last month and a half . Yes , they have been crushing it Because , if you've noticed , on stage recently there are a lot of new faces that probably a lot of you don't know . Those people were not just dropped on stage Like they came to rehearsals . They watched .

Speaker 2 22:12

And rehearsal is early , Early , early Early on Sundays . Yes , and they are coming , for I mean they don't serve on day one .

Speaker 1 22:21

No , I mean they come for weeks at a time of just watching . They sit down with our ministry leaders of that area and so when you see someone that has stepped into a role like that , whether it's playing guitar or singing , whatever that looks like , we'll just take worship , for example . Those are people who have , for like weeks before that , learned and watched and figured out what's going on and asked questions , and then now they've gotten to a point where , like , oh yeah , we're ready to do this , let's do it .

Speaker 2 22:47

Yeah . So I love that process of going hey , you start coming , you're here , you belong .

Speaker 2 22:54

you walk through our starting point membership , you pray through it , agree , covenant in with us , do all your paperwork , shadow , get trained and then you get empowered to serve , because I think that's a lot of people's fear is you're just going to drop me in you know junior high group somewhere and I'm going to have to fend for myself , but there really is a process to it , whether it's something small , you know , like counting , or you know something like that , or two , you know , leading from stage , which is a big deal , because you know we want to make sure not just that they're talented , but that they're walking with Jesus .

Speaker 1 23:28

Oh yeah , that it's an overflow when that goes back to step one , right Like the whole membership thing , because in that process , what have we done ? We've sat down . We've sat down with your family . We've heard your testimony . We know what Jesus is doing in your life . A staff member has sat down and learned who you are and what Jesus is doing and how you met Jesus and when you get like all these questions that we're asking and so by the time you get to singing on stage or holding a door or whatever that looks like , hey , we know like , hey , jesus is doing some really cool things in your life and we just want to help you continue

Moving Beyond Spectator Christianity

Speaker 1 24:01

in that process .

Speaker 2 24:01

Well , and as much as I would like to paint Concord as the church , that's got it all figured out . I know there are some things that we're continuing to work on . One of the things that we find very important is we want people to attend worship , we want people to be in a community group and we want them to serve .

Speaker 1 24:18

Well , we have two hours right , we have 9 , 15 , and 11 .

Speaker 2 24:24

want them to serve . Well , we have two hours , right , we have 9 , 15 , and 11 . So we ask them to do three things in two hours . So if someone let's start with the beginning , Maybe they come one hour . They come at 9 , 15 , or 11 . They come to worship . We definitely want them to serve and get in a community group . So what are options for people as they take step one , step two , step three ? Four people as they take step one , step two , step three . Where are you really wanting someone who loves Jesus , who's involved in Concord , to continue to move towards community worship services and serving ? What would you suggest ?

Speaker 1 24:59

So this is also a conversation that we have all the time Because , just like you said , we're asking our people to do three things , we give them two hours , but that's not actually super accurate because we do have options through the week . We have options on Wednesday nights , and so , um , I think we get into this idea of Sunday mornings , is it Is ?

Speaker 2 25:16

the only time the only option which is not true , because we have serving opportunities on Wednesday night , we have communities on Wednesday night and then our community group is just expanding to where we have them throughout the week . It's just finding a group .

Speaker 1 25:28

We have ones that meet off campus . We're adding more that are meeting on Wednesday nights to give those options , and so , yes , on Sunday mornings it feels like we're not allowing you . But also this comes back to hey , if everyone in our church was serving , that would also ease some of that , because I mean , let's just take kids ministry , for example- and our kids ministry volunteers .

Speaker 2 25:52

I know if you're listening will like amen this . They're like everybody . Please sign up .

Speaker 1 25:54

And so , but I mean , we have some volunteers in that area that are volunteering every week the same hour , and so , like one of the challenges that I gave Abby , I was like , hey , I know you need to recruit volunteers , but hey , I need these people to be in worship , they need to hear the word taught , they need to hear all this stuff , they need to be a part of what we're doing . But we have some lack of volunteers in that area , and so there's some people that are volunteering every single week , and so that's just part of the growing pains .

Speaker 2 26:23

There's this quote I was reading in a book . It's this Bible study that I'm doing with a couple of our staff members and it says this the New Testament gives no support to spectator Christianity . Christians are to invest themselves in the ministry of the local congregation , finding and filling roles of service , leadership and ministry . And so that's my encouragement , just to you guys that are listening , that you're taking time right now just to go . I want a second piece of engagement for what we've been taught on Sunday . My encouragement and call to you is to my encouragement and call to you is to find a place to serve .

Speaker 2 26:59

We need people to move from being— Consumers only , Consumers only . I know that sounds really harsh . That's not an indictment . That's just saying , if we need you to be a part of us accomplishing our mission , which is to proclaim the kingdom in our homes , our community and the world , to be a great commission church to teach God's word , to be a safe environment for people to worship and grow . And there's just so many opportunities , from little commitment to big commitment , skill sets , all that kind of thing , and I would just ask you would you take that ?

Speaker 1 27:35

next step . Oh yeah , and I think the last thing that I would add before we finish up is I think sometimes a lot of the excuse that I hear is well , I'm still learning , I need to be fed , I need to make sure that I'm where I'm at , and that just goes back to what we were talking about earlier . Like , hey , you want to grow , step out and serve . You will see immense growth in your walk with Christ when you do that . And so , yes , there are times when you need to kind of sit and like figure out what God's teaching you .

Speaker 2 28:04

There's always seasons of life .

Speaker 1 28:05

There's always seasons of that . But also don't let that be your excuse of like , okay , I'm just gonna sit Like , no , like , take that step to the next level .

Speaker 2 28:14

So , folks , this is our encouragement the local church that you're involved in whether it's Concord or another church around here , maybe you're in another state is this the local church needs you . You're a part of the body , you have been gifted , you have been empowered , you've got skills and the church needs that , and so , whatever that next step is , we wanna encourage you get to it .

Speaker 1 28:36

Oh yeah , for sure , start .

Speaker 2 28:39

That next step is . We want to encourage you , get to it , start pouring in and we'll see God move in big ways and so very , very excited . So , aaron , thanks for giving time today just to talk about serving and empowering people , and we're going to see what God's going to do . Man , I'll tell you what this conversation has been jet fuel for me . Yes , sir , and I hope we see you guys again next week .