In Their Own Words

In this personal story episode of Choice Chat, Patrick and Michaela share their abortion experience together, offering a rare and deeply human conversation from both partners’ perspectives. They speak candidly about love, timing, uncertainty, grief, support, and the quiet complexity of making the right choice even when that choice still carries emotion. Their story challenges the silence around abortion by showing that reproductive decisions are not abstract political arguments; they are lived experiences shaped by care, trust, and the realities of people’s lives. The episode closes with Patrick’s original song, written from their experience, offering listeners a moving reflection on love, loss, and the future they are still building together.

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Producer (00:17.902)

Choice chat believes in the power of real voices.

 In this segment, we're sharing stories from deeply personal choices about pregnancy and abortion. These are stories of resilience, heartbreak, healing and hope. They remind us that abortion isn't just a political issue, it's a human one. By listening, we honour the silence and stigma that surrounds reproductive health care in Canada by those who've lived them.

AJ (00:51.374)

Hello and welcome to Choice Chat. I'm your host, AJ Ware. Today's episode is a little different. We're hearing from Patrick and Michaela, who have chosen to share their abortion story together. That is something we do not often hear, and it matters. This was one experience they lived through side by side, but not in exactly the same way. Patrick later wrote a song out of that experience, and we'll hear it at the end of the episode.

What I hope this conversation offers is a space for honesty, for complexity, and for some of the quieter feelings that do not always get spoken aloud. Patrick described their experience as one shaped by mixed feelings, grief, tenderness, and moments often left unspoken, which is part of what makes this conversation so meaningful. 

Patrick, Michaela, thank you both for being here.

 Michaela (01:46.968)

Thank you for having us.

 Patrick (01:48.046)

Thanks for having us, AJ. We're happy to be here and honoured to share a story.

 AJ (01:52.024)

Before we move into the story itself, I'd love to give listeners a sense of who you are and where life was for you then. Could each of you introduce yourselves, in whatever way feels right?

 Patrick (02:04.512)

Absolutely. AJ, I'm a singer-songwriter from Peterborough, Ontario. And for the majority of my adult life after my post-secondary degree, I've been pursuing my progression as a songwriter. And a lot of that has come, you know, moving to music came from a hope that music can bring us together and connect us in sometimes a disconnected world and sharing, you know, stories that validated certain emotions that we have that often, you know, don't get talked about as often. And I moved to Ottawa quite a few years ago, and was lucky to meet Michaela through a mutual connection. And since then, we've been writing our love story here in Ottawa.

 Michaela (02:42.232)

My name is Michaela. I've lived in Ottawa pretty much my entire life, besides a couple of years in Toronto. And then that got cut short by COVID, but that's okay. Came home and happy I did. Cause eventually, yeah, I ran into this guy. I went to school for art, and art is kind of my background. Any sort of visual, digital is my vibe. So doing that on the side while, you know, working odd jobs here and there and trying to make it as an artist in that world. And then, yeah, it just happened to be at a party one night with one of my roommates, and this guy walked in, and we've been glued at the hip almost ever since.

 AJ (03:21.198)

I love that. The way you're interacting right now is just, it's really, it's really sweet. The care that you have for each other shows even right now. So, this conversation is about the abortion that you had. So, hearing that you met at a party, you're starting your relationship, I'm wondering if you can share a little bit about the choice to have an abortion and what made it clear to you that this was just not the right time for the two of you to bring a child into your world.

 Michaela (03:56.466)

Well, yeah, at that point we had met in spring of 2023 and spring of 2024, kind of got this news, and it was just, we're a year into our relationship and as much as we loved each other, I was not in a place where that's something that I wanted to do with my life yet. Cause I, you know, am still working the odd jobs and wanted to, yeah, more I wanted to do with my life before becoming a mom. Yeah, coming to you and saying that was very easy.

 Patrick (04:33.012)

I was in a very similar spot. Like I said, I've been chasing the dream of being an independent musician, and a lot of that doesn't come with a lot of certainty, not a lot of savings and not a lot of concrete plans for where things were headed. Michaela and I were lucky in the fact that we had built a relationship in the first year that was very trusting and was very open. Communication was something that we found we did well right off the start, and that was why we were able to sort of approach the situation together and handle it as a conversation when it did arise. And also, we were very fortunate that we were, you know, maybe in different, just different spots in our life at the time, but still very much in agreement that, you know, it wasn't really the time for us to move forward with being parents, just for safety and security and the life we want to provide a kid at some point.

 Michaela (05:24.974)

100%.

 AJ (05:27.85)

100%. Hearing that 100 % and hearing that you two are so aligned in this, and it sounds like kids might be in the picture in the future. And at this point, it was something that didn't make sense for you financially. It didn't make sense for you where you are in your lives, what you wanted to do and where you were in your relationship. And the ability to make that decision. It sounds like was such a, mutually beneficial for both of you.

 Michaela (06:01.957)

It was, I describe it as bittersweet.

 Patrick (06:05.614)

And no less difficult, and for sure, in our plans for the future, there absolutely are children in that picture. Yeah, I'm feeling very, you know, we had an amazing opportunity to have this conversation with each other, to be trusting with the others, you know, emotions and feelings towards it, because when that conversation was started, we didn't know. And then also, you know, lucky enough because of where we are in the world that we did have that as an option to not move forward, which we are also very thankful for.

 AJ (06:37.102)

Absolutely. That ability to make this choice that is both physically and medically safe for you, and to do it together in a way that was mutually protective. Such a valuable, valuable experience.

 Michaela (06:51.758)

Yeah, where I went was, I can't give them enough props for, you know, being great and being supportive. And anyway, I just can't get very, very thankful that I have such a safe and clean and, you know, educated place.

 AJ (07:10.08)

Let's celebrate abortion workers. Snap, snap, snap. Yes. Yes. So, I wonder, so this was a couple of years ago, 2024. I wonder what makes it feel important to share your story now.

 Patrick (07:28.459)

Yeah, great question. think I get asked that a lot for a lot of my music, and a lot of it sometimes feels heavy when that's not normally what, you know, especially on social media or with normal media outlets that that's not normally the things we give credit to and usually the fun and flashy is kind of what gets most of our attention. I think that's why I started being a musician to try to write and create space for those, you know, awkward, complex situations that, you know, are often something that takes up a lot of our emotional bandwidth or makes a lasting impact on us as humans and living a complex and crazy life that we do. I think that it wasn't necessarily something that we wrote or I wrote to be shared explicitly in the way that we have in terms of putting on Spotify and having it accessible for everyone.

 I think Mick can maybe talk about the early experiences of sharing, sort of what we're going through, a little better, maybe.

 Michaela (08:30.572)

Yeah. So, when it was happening, I was living with a roommate. And we had, almost like a friends type situation going on, where it was, we had our close group of friends over almost most of the time. And so they were, they were downstairs when I found out. And so, they were with us through this whole ride, and it wasn’t it was something that I just couldn't keep to myself and sharing it with them and having the conversation and not keeping it a secret felt so good at that point. And then when Pat came to me and was like, it was a little while after it had happened, he was like, " How would you feel if I wrote a song about it? And without hesitation, I was just like, yes, please, please do. I'm so curious to see what you're gonna come out with, and when he played it for me for the first time, I was in tears. We played it for our friends live at a show, didn't tell them that he was gonna be playing it, and all of our friends were in tears in the crowd. There was not much of a dry eye in the place. And after kind of that reaction and playing it live a couple times just on a whim and seeing the response from the crowd, it was very heartwarming and made us feel like, well, if we put it out there and it helped me so much, helped us so much, helped our friends so much and all these people, I don't know, probably help a lot more.

 Patrick (09:56.15)

We had a couple that came up and mentioned something after which at live shows often you get a reaction you can see and there's always emotions involved but it's rare when someone actually takes the time to come up and talk to you after you sing a song and we had a couple young women who did approach me after the show and just said that was such a beautiful song thank you for singing about that and most of them had experiences of their own or close friends or family that had been through this, and the overriding sort of emotion was this is not talked about, even though it's quite common, and that's, you know, sort of where the idea of sharing it started, and then I think it steamrolled just us thinking about how, you know, reflecting on the time after about how fortunate we really were to have the opportunity to have a safe place to do it and move forward with that option and how, you know, my music isn't political, but it's about some basic human rights that we have access to with our advanced healthcare. And it's something that getting the word out is important for. Really thought, you know, how scary it would have been if we didn't have this option and didn't have support to move through that with. So, we kind of just decided to not loudly release it, but just quietly put it there as a resource, hopefully to accompany others who are going through something similar. And if it inspires greater conversation around the topic of abortions, then that's also a win, but it's mostly just meant to be a quiet resource. And we didn't really do any promotions either for this. We sent it out to most of the women's centers in the country and said, here's a quiet resource that, you know, if you find someone, I know there's vastly different experiences for a lot of people. were in a loving relationship. We came to, you know, a mutual decision that this is what was best for us. But so, it doesn't fit everyone, but for, you know, just to have a quiet resource for anyone working in that line of work to maybe be able to share with those that it might relate to.

 AJ (11:50.03)

What a gift. Thank you so much for sharing all of that. And I'm struck by, Michaela, you said that sharing your experience with your friends and at Patrick's shows that it felt so good. And I'm seeing that in you and the, the urge in both of you to keep that sharing going and to spread that good feeling that sharing this experience with other human beings. It doesn't take it away from us, it eases the burden of holding it by ourselves.

 Michaela (12:30.35)

Mm-hmm.

 AJ (12:32.352)

And to do that with your friends, with your community, with your music community, and then to take that extra step to put it out into the world, as you said, is a quiet resource for people to share their burden, to let someone else hold a bit of what they're carrying. What a gift. When you look back on that time, spring 2024,

 What stays with you the most?

 Michaela (13:12.332)

I guess there's always the what-ifs. There's always going to be the what-ifs. Those are never ever going to go away, and they'll be, you know, it just coming up on the anniversary of it this year. And we're, we're honestly right around the time that I would have found out or coming up to it. And yeah, like those feelings do come up, and I, you know, I wonder what if, but that doesn't change the what-ifs don't change my confidence that I have in the choice that I made, nor do I regret the choice that we made? I don't know, but there's always going to be that curiosity.

 Patrick (13:54.38)

Yeah, think Mick kind of nailed it on the head. I definitely have that feeling all the time, still going back to, you know, it doesn't matter. Yeah, we had conviction in our decision. It was the right thing for us at the time. There's no question about that, but I've heard many perspectives on this that differ from our own. And I think there's just this underwritten sort of acceptance that sometimes when people are thinking about this, that it was an easy decision or that it just there was no feelings about things going the other way. And I think that's very much not the case. So when I think back to that, I think of a lot of, I guess, flip-flopping between trying to justify something that maybe wasn't possible at the time, but still trying to find some way for that, the idea that we had in our heads of being parents at some time to play out in that moment.

 Yeah, I think that's why it's powerful to share this too, because it's not, it hasn't been easy, and it wasn't easy then, especially for Michaela. And yeah, that's, that's kind of explains the whole situation. And a lot of the emotions back then was acceptance for that complexity.

 AJ (15:00.78)

I love that acceptance for the complexity. We so often in this world want to feel, and we're sold an idea of all or nothing, that it's either black or white, that we can choose one or the other. And it's such a challenge. We don't often have a roadmap for holding multiple things at the same time. And when you talk about that complexity, I live still with the what if and I do not question my choice. And those exist equally. And that's, that's very, very true and very wise of you all to be able to share. I'm curious, what was happening emotionally between the two of you at that time as a couple? What was it like to go through this together?

 Michaela (16:00.494)

Oh, it was kind of the timing of it when it actually happened, when the day that I got the abortion, it was tough because he had planned to travel to Kitchener. He had planned this months in advance to go record with one of his producers. This was planned. This, and he was going, and this had been planned, and he was so stoked, and I'm just like, should I not go? And I was like, no, like you have to go. You go. You do this. 

 AJ (16:27.821)

You go.

 Michaela (16:29.646)

And I will be here, I will be okay, and I will get through this. Yeah, we talked, called me every night, we texted, we called whenever we could. And I had my girls there, I had close friends there too, and my mom, I love my mom. It was hard to be away from him for sure, but there was still, even though he was six hours away, and drove six hours away immediately after it happened, but there was still a whole lot of love going on.

 Patrick (16:55.094)

Yeah, a whole lot of love. Definitely a hard thing to do, it was hard to leave at that time. But I think, you know, in a bigger sense at looking at our relationship was very much still, I want to almost say the honeymoon phase of our relationship and new friend groups and a whole lot of stuff. So, it happened pretty quickly in terms of us meeting. There was no doubt about how much we loved each other, but just still sorting out exactly what, you know, what our future was going to look like. I think definitely one of the positives we can look at is that it brought us way closer together. And also being, you know, very fortunate that that was the outcome, because this is also something that could tear you apart as a couple as well. Just a lot of gratitude that we were able to see, eye to eye, hear each other's thoughts and opinions and hold space for each other in those times. And yeah, for sure, it was not quite at the, at the time we weren't thinking about kids at that time.

 AJ (17:53.632)

Not thinking about kids at the time, you were thinking about love at that time. And it sounds like as difficult as it was for you two to be apart on the day, that the way you were interacting and supporting each other was still in connection.

 Patrick (18:14.901)

Absolutely.

 AJ (18:15.904)

And thank goodness for the modern age when we can just be in contact all day long in times like these. Michaela, this experience asked a lot of you personally. And it's something that you shared with your partner. I wonder if you can speak to your individual experience and what it was like to walk through this with Patrick.

 Michaela (18:47.502)

Yeah, 100%. It was super, I'm not gonna lie, it was super scary. It was a super scary thing to go through, and like a really scary and hard decision to make. You know, they don't let the guy go in with you when you do it. So it was all me by myself in there. And it was a lot in a very short period of time. And I was lucky I had the…  It was just the pill, wasn't a medical, it was early enough that I just had to take an oral pill. But still, even the aftermath of it was scary, and it felt like it took a while for my head to get put back on straight and for me to find myself a little bit again, but I also had this oomph in me to like, okay, I'm not doing this, so now I need to do need to step up a little bit more and start fighting harder for my life. Like, if I'm not gonna have a baby and focus on a baby, I need to focus on me. And that's why, and that was the whole point in not doing this. It wasn't because I didn't want to do that eventually, one day, but it was just that it was still my time. And having that moment internally with myself, and then all the support that I had from this guy along the way was just...

 AJ (20:20.174)

Seeing that in you, that talking about having that support from Patrick and from your friends and from your mom, how special that is, that having that support and being able to, though it is an individual experience, to not walk through it entirely alone. To see you sort of relax into that knowing, that feels really, really important.

 AJ (20:47.95)

Patrick, I keep thinking about what it means to love someone through a mutual choice like this, and to want to support her fully, and at the same time to have feelings of your own. What was that like for you?

 Patrick (21:06.166)

Yeah, I think that just because of the nature of what, you know, the news that we got, was very much just caring for someone so much. I don't think that I, you know, I wasn't a driver. I wasn't in the driver's seat for this situation. It was just something that I could support from the side as much as I could, whatever that meant at the time. And I think, you know, as we do, we learn as we go through this stuff, and I'm sure if I could go through it again, I might do a better job than I did back then. But I think very much it was trying to just, you know, be a support on the side as much as I could. A lot of this had to do with Michaela and her body and what she wanted as much as, you know, it felt like at the time far more than what I wanted. And to be honest, if Michaela wasn't on board with this, I think we would probably have a child right now because I don't think, you know, it's not, yeah, it just wasn't, didn't really feel like my spot. felt like I had my role there, and luckily, we were aligned on our vision for how things should move forward. But it was very much just trying to, you know, watch her and see what she needed at the time and be there for her, whatever that meant. And yeah, I was just kind of, you know, trying to be on the side as a support as much as I could.

 Michaela (22:20.128)

I will say you did a great job. I want to put that out there. And I think I remember coming to you and saying, I love you so much, I can't do this. I can't. I love you so much, but I just can't. And you were like, yeah, I'm with you. like, we're just, yeah. And that was an, I love you so much, but I can't have a baby with you right now. 

 AJ 

Yeah. Yeah. And to see him look back at you in agreement must have felt so affirming. Yeah, absolutely. You've talked a lot about the nuances and the complexities and holding multiple things at one time. Were there emotions that came up that surprised either of you?

 Michaela (23:14.382)

This is like I had one where I wasn't sure the majority of my life if I ever actually wanted to have kids. I wasn't I was never like I was never the girl that was like no I'm gonna have like four kids and these are their names and I was never that but then once those once I saw those lines and I took three tests all of sudden I was like wait a minute maybe, maybe that is something that I do want and it was almost like as somebody who didn't think they wanted kids ever now all of sudden. was like, actually, yeah. And there was a part of me that really didn't want to have the abortion. Then the bigger part of me was like, "No”, the rational part of my brain was like, "This is not the right move for you right now. This is not the move.” And so, I've learned now that this is something that I do want in the future. And it was kind of like a weird realization to come to in a weird way.

 AJ (24:13.102)

I just want to hold space for that for a moment, that you for your young life, teenage life, young adult life, thinking, yeah, kids are actually not on my radar. It may be child-free by choice. This is what I'm thinking. And then you see those pink lines on three different tests and the certainty begins to blur a bit to the point where you've now realized, actually, yeah, kids are in my future, but that wasn't the time.

 I just want to honour that so much. It's such a powerful moment for you, maybe for both of you. That absolutely informs your future.

 Michaela (25:01.966)

Mm-hmm.

 AJ (25:03.456)

In some new ways. Patrick, anything for you that came as a surprise in this moment, in these moments?

 Patrick (25:14.734)

I'd say a lot of it came as a surprise for sure. Just guilt at times for the fact that Michaela was having to go through this. Yeah, anxiety about what the future was going to look like, especially before we'd had any honest conversations or before Michaela came to me and we kind of spilled our guts to each other about just what this was going to look like. Definitely anxiety about how it was going to provide for a child. And there's a lot that was attached to it. And I think a lot of that was calmed, maybe not silenced, but calmed by having a relationship that we could, you know, openly communicate and just share that stuff with each other without fear of being reprimanded or judged based on those feelings. Yeah.

 AJ (26:02.816)

It's clear that this choice was complex and also the right one for you to make.

 What has the ability to have an abortion given you? What opportunities have arisen that affirm your choice?

 Michaela (26:22.254)

The ability to go back to school. The ability to work hours, like, any hours that I need to, you know, whenever I need to. Freedom to travel, freedom to go out with friends at night.

 Patrick (26:42.446)

Freedom to continue pursuing our development as adults and to try to become what we hope to be as parents in the future. I think that's not something that can't be done at all with a child, but it just happens differently and being able to construct that on our own and on our own terms without having to worry about providing for someone for, I think it's just, it's being able to become who we wanted to be so that we were in a position that we could raise a child. And I think there's a lot of value there that is hard to say.

 Michaela (27:18.485)

You hit the nail on the head.

 AJ (27:21.292)

The ability to become who you wanted to be. The ability to develop into the adults that you are becoming have become an experience like this grows us up. And an opportunity to experience each other and to grow together. So, Patrick, how did the song begin for you?

 Patrick (27:50.764)

Yeah, it started the same as a lot of my songs despite the different subject matter. The songs often come from ruminating emotions and feelings and things that are hard to let go. I started writing music as personal therapy because I struggled with lot of chronic depression and addictions, and things that I wanted to share, not only because hopefully it would help someone, but because it started from a place of just survival, trying to share these emotions in a way that made sense to me, that validated them without them taking over my internal world. And the idea came from that with me sitting with all these emotions and feeling like, you know, my normal approach is to start writing about this stuff. But it was also something that wasn't my story necessarily to tell, even though, you know, a lot of the song too speaks to our experience, but also my experience, right? But I think it came from that, and going to Mick and hearing that she might be open to that was kind of just the green light. And we didn't know how we were gonna share it yet. Maybe it was just gonna be locked in a voice note for us forever, but it was gonna be something that we got to keep with us. And I think, Michaela, that's been a big thing for you. We didn't end up out of this situation with a child, and that was something that we could carry forward forever, hopefully, in this life. But we got something out of it, a little bit of something to hold on to for us. That was pretty important in why I decided to write a song.

 Michaela (29:24.488)

It gives me like a safe space to like feel it when I when you need to feel it.

 AJ (29:31.086)

That's beautiful. A safe space to feel it when you need to feel it. That it's something that stays with you both. That is both of yours. This experience which was both of yours in different ways. Michaela, you said earlier that the first time you heard it you bawled, you wept. I'm curious, what was it that you heard in the song?

 Michaela (30:00.974)

There's a lot of things I hear in that song when he plays it. A lot of things I see and I don't know, I feel in my mind. I feel love, feel longing, you know? I feel the loss. But I, you know, I feel the hope and the comfort as well. There's a lot of feelings that go with it. And it's a song that I just don't, it comes up in my car and I will still cry on my drive. it's, you know, he, it's... it'll always get me and that's okay and there's a lot of love in that song.

 AJ (30:36.694)

There's a lot of love in that song. And Patrick, the melody and the musicality are so evocative. And it feels as though the song carries more than just the words. It carries emotion in the music.

 Patrick (30:57.502)

Absolutely, and I think I was lucky to partner with a producer who his specialty is that his name is Reese Roughly and he works on film scores and you know a lot of it is not doesn't have lyrics it's about bringing that emotion out in certain scenes and being able to capture that and for me I always felt, to be honest AJ, I don't think that there was a way to write this song with words that was going to get through the emotion. Like for me, there's still lot of lines in the song, but I'm like, I don't know if that quite hit the nail on the head, but you know, I did my best and that's the thing we get as songwriters when you sit down to write something or record something, you get a snapshot of some of the emotions and feelings and hopefully you pick the right ones that validate that. And it's not always perfect, but it was what was real at the time. And I think being able to work with someone that was so handled the work so carefully and also, you know, this was something that wasn't rushed because we had a release plan. It was something that was being done because it was honest and genuine and real to us at the time. And that's why I think we wanted to do something that was going to stick and feel like it carried the story almost on its own without the words. Yeah. So I feel, I feel very proud of what we came up with and, and how we put that together and honoured to work with them on that. Yeah.

 Michaela (32:21.806)

Yeah.

 AJ (32:22.732)

I'm hearing so much in what you are both sharing about community and support, collaboration about mutual care and the gifts, the importance that that brings into our lives of having that community support. Yeah, it's beautiful. I want to thank you both for the honesty and the care that you've brought to this conversation. And there is just so much here that people might recognize in themselves, especially the parts that are hardest to define.

 For those with similar experiences, is there anything that you'd like them to hear?

 Michaela (33:12.354)

It doesn't hurt that bad always, and so the feeling lightens. And just like hold the space for it and don't be afraid to talk to the other especially women in your life about it because you'd probably be surprised about how many women have gone through something like that that just never actually said anything. I think sharing and talking about it is the most important thing we can do.

 Patrick (33:48.532)

I think as we were going through this experience, I noticed for sure because I was fairly quiet on it as I mentioned at the start when we first heard the news, was very much, you know, I was waiting not for orders, but just to have some emotion to sort of move off and find our direction forward from that. And I think there was times when a lot of the emotions, sometimes your face was something scary and sometimes in some friends, you know, maybe it's an awkward topic for them. And so maybe jokes are the way to handle it or trying to just not talk about it because it's, you know, Oh, I don't want to bring that up because it's difficult for them. I think there was a lot of learning to on how to process those feelings internally. And then a lot of learning that when you do share that there's a lot of other people out there that have been through similar things or can hold space for you even if they haven't been through that. And so yeah, for anyone listening, you're not alone. I know your situations might be very different than what Michaela and I went through together, but still there's, you know, numbers and numbers of people out there who will hold space for you if you ask them and will be there to hold your hand when they can. But the hard thing with connection is that we have to take the first step to open up in ourselves up to be able to let someone into what's happening with us. And I think that if we do that and continue to do that, that it can have a ripple effect on our world and start to open up doorways that maybe have been closed.

 AJ (35:16.686)

Thank you so much.

 AJ (35:20.908)

Our thanks to Patrick and Michaela for sharing their story with such honesty, tenderness, and trust. 

 You're listening to Choice Chat. 

 Patrick is now going to share the song that came from this experience. Maggie, Presley, and Bennett.

 Patrick (35:54.062)

Love, the first drink said it Mistakes were part of what we'd have Funny how my mind has settled while those Two pink lines didn't seem so bad Maggie, Presley, and Bennet All other names up in our heads Heartbroken, growth-bound, indebted All other ways that I'm not there you I haven't be ready you.

 Just two kids all the time in bed. Should be grown but I ain't quite that. Got a list of dreams and an empty bag. The story's old, but I get it now. We talked overnight. We made jokes to keep it light. Didn't have to fight, no, we knew we had to say goodbye.

 But I still find times that my mind goes back. As hard as I try I can see a light flash where I'd be heard at you

 She runs real fast. and she smiles like you. She loves so free and her words are true. And I swear at night I can see her in the stars. One special baby of ours.

 Summer's set and some time has passed. I love you so and we've just unpacked. We chose what was right though it hurt real bad. The chapter's over but a new one's back.

 And I think we're ready

 I still find times when my mind goes back and talk through that I can see a life flash where I'd be your dad you.

 She runs real fast and she smiles like you .She loves so free and her words are true. And still at night I can see her in the stars. One special baby of ours

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