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Mackenzie Price - Exclamation Points in the Brain
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Mackenzie Price is 30 years old, based in Portland, and running an indie band called New Here entirely on her own terms — no label, no manager, no spreadsheets. If you heard our episode with Gregory McKillop (also known as Rune), you already know the name. Gregory built the band around Mackenzie's songs because they believed in her. This is her side of that story.
We get into what gigging actually pays in Portland (door money versus merch money — the gap will surprise you), how New Here tours without a label and breaks even doing it, the Midwest show where a college kid forgot to run the door, and why her band application doubles as a contract with a substance use policy. Also: TikTok has 37,000 of her followers and gives her 300 views a post, the laundromat show that sold out and drew eight people, and why she calls herself a dumbass with the wheel in her hand.
In this episode:
- $60 door, $300–500 merch — and "I should chart these things"
- Touring that pays for itself: art patrons, tech bros, and fan investment
- The $65 stiffing story and the drummer who said enough
- A band application that covers money, touring, and how drunk is too drunk
- "TikTok is a hellscape. Don't do TikTok."
- Gimmick shows, blood on the guitar, and the laundromat that sold out
00:00 Cold Open & Intro
01:21 New Here's Origin Story
04:05 "Exclamation Points in the Brain"
11:07 The Real Numbers: What Gigs Actually Pay
14:24 When a Venue Burns You
19:37 On Stage: Channeling Rage & The Cranberries Comparison
22:42 The TikTok Lottery
27:08 Lazy Promo, Gimmick Shows & What's Next
Guest: Mackenzie Price — New Here Instagram: @NewHerePDX Bandcamp: newherePDX.bandcamp.com
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Open & Intro
SPEAKER_00MoneyGigs is supported by trifloral.com, T R Y F L O R A L dot com forward slash the MoneyGigs to get your discount. Trifloral produces THD beverages. They come in 2.55 and 10 milligram varieties in all sorts of flavors. I have one prior to my gig, and everything is so smooth. Visit T R Y F L O R A L dot com forward slash the money gigs. That's trifloral.com forward slash the money gigs and get your discount. My guest today is McKenzie Price, guitarist, songwriter, and the force behind the Portland Indie project New Here. If you cut the episode with Gregory McKillop, also known as Rune, you already know this name. Gregory is McKenzie's stage manager bandmate and the person who essentially built New Here around her songs because they believed in her. That episode is worth a list if you haven't heard it. Mackenzie is 30 years old, based in Portland, and she is the real thing, writing and performing original music about queer love, self-discovery, and the mess of being human. We talked about what gigging actually pays in Portland and how she tours without a label and breaks even doing it. And what it looks like to run a band with real professional standards when nobody told you that was supposed to be part of the job. I'm Cliff Adams, and this is the Money Gigs Podcast. Gregory
New Here's Origin Story
SPEAKER_00did a nice job uh of talking about you. I almost I was like, why don't you just go grab her? This this would be cool if we just could do this like together. And I appreciate you taking the time. I know it's Sunday, and I'm looking at your schedule. I've looked around all your internet stuff, and my goodness, you you're just really busy, and and and that's I guess good as well.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's a surprise for me to hear because I feel like I'm always not doing enough. So, like, that's really cool to hear. Just like, I don't know. I um, but that's a me problem.
SPEAKER_00So your primary instrument is guitar?
SPEAKER_02It is. Um, I learned ukulele and I would play solely ukulele, wrote a ton of songs on ukulele for like two years, and now I like never play it. I'd play guitar.
SPEAKER_00New here. Congratulations. Did when you got that name, uh you came up with that name?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I think maybe my sister. I was in the car with my sister and my partner at the time. I don't remember which one of us said it first, but I was just like, click, that's the one.
SPEAKER_00Wow. How how excited were you when you went? Because that's big that's a big deal. First of all, Mackenzie Price, is that your actual name?
SPEAKER_02That's my legal name. Uh it's not my birth name.
SPEAKER_00Okay. But um it's also really good.
SPEAKER_02Oh, thanks.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um, yeah, I mean, I I hate my dad, as everybody knows. Um and so I changed my middle and last name legally to spite him. And also just because I don't I didn't like my middle or last name. Um so now I really do. Now my full name is Mackenzie Clover Price. In true sapphic fashion, um, right after legally changing my name, I um started dating a woman named Clover, uh, which is just real a real big queer bummer. Trying to moan your own middle name in bed, you know. Sorry for being crass, but um No, be crashed.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'm looking at your Instagram wall, Instagram handle, uh new here, PDX, um, just a lot of stuff, and you know, updates on your shows. And I want to talk about your social media management and all the stuff you do there, but we can do that later. I want to start with New Here, though. So New Here started as just you, right? Acoustic solo.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Um I just recently started dating like queer women and non-binary people, and just had just stopped dating system for the first time, and um gave me a lot of big feelings, and then I just it made me write a bunch of songs because I had so many damn feelings. Um, and then I would do open mics, and I was pretty religious about open mics for like a year or so.
SPEAKER_00How
Exclamation Points in the Brain
SPEAKER_00is the open mics scene there?
SPEAKER_02I kind of miss it, it felt like church um back when I did it in a positive way. I was like, um, yeah, I had a nice community at a place that used to be called the local lounge that was like a crummy dive bar, like queer dive bar, and that was really cool. But um yeah, I don't really know anymore. I've gone to a couple, Portland has a couple of different music scenes. We're pretty heavy on like folk, bluegrassy, boom clap, that kind of thing. Um, and then we also kind of have like a hippie dippy festival-y scene that's a little more out in Eugene. That's not really my speed, and then there's like a punk scene, and I don't know, jam bands are in the hippie scene. Yeah, I don't know how the open mics are these days, but I know that there's lots to choose from and lots that have different kinds of vibes to them.
SPEAKER_00So at what point did New Hair become a band?
SPEAKER_02Um, that happened in 2021. We played our, yeah, we started basically it was um Gregory who you talked to. Um they're my stage mom. I call them Rune, uh, because that's another one of their free names. Um, but basically Rune was like, what if I played drums for you? So we're drums in ukulele. And then Rune was like, what if I played lead guitar or bass? And then we found a drummer, and then so basically they built a band for me around my songs because they believed in me and they're nice, and I'm nice, and it's nice to meet nice people who just want to be nice because it's feels good to be nice.
SPEAKER_00Definitely, and you started the whole project you were saying, uh, out of sort of just working through some feelings on on the guitar. Can you open up that a little bit and let me know what was underneath that idea?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, just um I think my early songs were mainly about girls I was seeing, um, or like some queer relationships, some non-binary people I was seeing that I had like really big crushes on. I mean, ever since I was a child, I kind of imagined myself to be straight. Um, and then you kind of have to reimagine your life. It's just kind of a I I think the first after the first like month or two of you realizing that you're not straight, you just wake up every day and you're like, I'm not straight. This is ah, it's just exclamation points in the brain every day.
SPEAKER_03Wow.
SPEAKER_02Um so anyway, crushes were big because they were kind of a new kind of crush. Lesbian relationships can move really fast in a toxic way, especially if you're like dumb little 21-year-olds. Um, and I was yeah, very dramatic. I also um I have depression and anxiety, and I was unmeditated until um I had to go inpatient at the like mental health hospital. Um, and that was like two years ago. So I was also like, yeah, just deeply unstable. But I found out that like I'd always liked to journal, but music was like, and I'd always like to sing, and then so it's like kind of musical. Journaling felt really, really good in my body, and I would just play the same songs over and over and over. Um, yeah, mainly about queer love, self-discovery, feeling bad about yourself, and then some songs about questioning and leaving Christianity. Because yeah, there was overlap between me being a Christian, finding out I was bisexual, and then leaving Christianity. I didn't leave Christianity because I was queer. I actually found a really great, queer Christian community for a while. Um, and I still have friends from that group, but uh yeah, it was more just like American resto fascism. I was like, I want nothing to do with this anymore.
SPEAKER_00Understood. Yeah. No, thanks. No, definitely.
SPEAKER_02That was kind of the early stuff.
SPEAKER_00One of the best things about music, the tactile nature of playing an instrument, developing self-esteem points and accompanying yourself. I think that's another thing. Suddenly you are your best friend in a very fun way, right? It's kind of cool.
SPEAKER_02Self-esteem points is a nice way to put it, little landmarkers. I never thought I'd be able to play guitar, and um, I'm not a great guitarist, I'm really more of a songwriter who uses a guitar. Like, wow, it feels good to learn a new thing and to be pretty good at it after all.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Well, full disclosure, just so you know a little bit about me with regard to uh sort of the LGBTQ thing. My first best friend came out when he was 18. But I had played with him since he was six years old. Uh, he was my first best friend on the street, like his mom came down in her robe, walked up to the door and said, Would you play with Chris? And uh, so that was 12 years, but the neighborhood I was in was sort of that Stepford straight and narrow. And so I went through that watching that happen for some reason, despite the fact that I'm from northern Kentucky. I have it's it's a foreign subject to me as to why someone would question someone's self-identity. Like, like if someone says they're that way, they're that way. You don't have an option to like, there's no menu on them that says how you know how you're going to address them or how you're gonna regard them. They've decided, and uh, and then secondly, my oldest uh is trans. So uh born a girl and then made the transition. I will say I did not handle that well. Um, even though I had that upbringing. It was more fear, it was just more fear. It was, you know, they're gonna get hurt. Uh, this is not the greatest country to be in. Um, I, you know, a lot of anger toward just the context, and as a parent, what you're in control of, what you're not in control of. Um, and and it seems in those moments, it seems more is out of your control. And that was the thing I was struggling with. And a little that's founded by a little bit of narcissism. Like, I have to be in control of everything, it kind of things, which was a lesson in and of itself. But um, so let's get back to Portland and music and and what you're doing. What does a real gig night look like financially, like in Portland right now? Like, walk me through an actual show. What's the deal? What do you walk away with? And and for you, is it sustainable?
SPEAKER_02Um, it just it just really depends. I feel like New Here is kind of a unique band. Um, because we did get lucky on some social media stuff, and like I don't know. Um, I think at a typical gig, it varies so much. I feel like we'll make like um like two to four hundred dollars. Um last night we played a gig where we made sixty dollars. Um that's from door usually.
The Real Numbers: What Gigs Actually Pay
SPEAKER_02Um the merch might be more like three to five hundred. I don't know. I should chart these things. Rune used to do that for me, uh, and uh was the keeper of spreadsheets and the band mom, and now I'm just uh a dumbass with the with the wheel in my hand, speeding down the highway. But you're knocking yourself a little bit.
SPEAKER_00That's that's a problem I'm trying to solve because as gigging musicians, we didn't get into this. You got into this as self-therapy. You you picked up a guitar, you developed this thing, and there's a creative energy and an emotional energy around it. And I get the resistance of wanting to dabble in things like booking and logistics and things like that because it kind of kills the energy. Let's talk about touring. So you mentioned uh in you know, booking tours that can pay for themselves. Has that happened for you, or is that still the goal?
SPEAKER_02That's happened pretty much every tour, um, partly because of like good planning, and um we've had like a successful fundraiser, like I think Rune mentioned like Weepy McGee, the like demos EP that I put out on a CD, and we sold a bunch of those. Um I think that we happen to have oh we have enough fans who have money and like found new here at just the right time and they like really believe in it and want to like invest in it, which is really lucky. It's like we have like art patrons kind of um who'll just be like, oh, you're gonna record, like let me shoot you like a couple hundred dollars or something.
unknownWow.
SPEAKER_02Or like I'll play double for this t-shirt because you grow you're going on tour, or some nice person, I think, in San Francisco. We played a show to like Rune and I did to like 12 people we played, but like a couple of them were like just really art loving tech rows, and one of them put in like a hundred dollars into our tip jar, and like some other ones put in like fifties, and so we walked away with like hella money from like very few people. Um, so it's just I don't some I don't know why. Um I know why individual people invest in or believe in you here, but I don't know like what I did right, or um, I don't think there's a good blanket answer, but we're just lucky and we got we get we get money and um on tour, I think just bugging other bands to promote and bugging them to bring some friends and stuff, it's just harassing people over email and DMs.
SPEAKER_00Um but I'm guessing that your harassment and bugging doesn't feel like harassing and bugging. I I've met people that do that and it feels like it. I have a feeling in this conversation that the way you and Rune go about that, they are very good at interpersonal communication. I have a feeling there's something inherent about what you two do uh to pull things, you know, people in and engage and support.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean, we do our best to be really sweet and polite, but um, you know, when you send out a message and you don't get a reply for a month, or like
When a Venue Burns You
SPEAKER_02you toured, you've like flew like eight hours to the other side of the country and you're playing a house show, and the band that you're playing with didn't really did not bring anybody. You're playing to like just the other bands and like two people running the show. It's like that feels bad. So we try to just be like let people know expectations and be like without saying it, be like, hey, if that happens, we're gonna be mad. Right. We're gonna be um I I used to have a drummer that I went on uh a Midwest tour with, and the college student running the show said that he was gonna run door, he assured us multiple times, and then we had a pretty packed show, and then after he gave us like $65, and we were like, should have probably made at least, even if some people didn't pay, which would have been fine, you we should have at least like have made in total for the show like $500 or something, and he's like, Oh, we'll just like he just didn't run door. Um, and basically the drummer that I had at the time was like, Listen, I know a lot of fucking people. I've toured all over the country. You have absolutely fucked us over. You will like not have good bands play here again. Uh and he got a little teary-eyed and was like, sorry, but I think he learned his lesson. Uh that show doesn't the house doesn't run shows anymore. You hear just out ruining local venues, I guess.
SPEAKER_00Well, it what's interesting though is when you put the effort forward and when you're as proactive as it sounds like you are in establishing expectations, not just with your own band, but other bands and potentially even the venue, and you have those letdowns, then there's a license to kind of be upset about it. Do you use any sort of formal contracts ever, like paper that people fill out and sign and stuff like that, or is it just mostly conversation?
SPEAKER_02Um, it's just, I mean, we'll print out an email if we're feeling really like we might need it, or I'll I'll pull up DMs or whatever. Um, but no like formal contract with other bands or anything. We'll do venue paperwork if they have it. But I do make new band members fill out an application, and the application sort of doubles as a contract, and it just lays out like how money works, how tours work, what's the gigging expectation, what's the like substance use expectation, like stuff like that. And people get people get pretty, I got a lot of unhappy messages for people being like, hey, I applied to your band, but like, yeah, I like to get drunk before I play. Like, what the fuck? Why are you like attacking me? I was like, I'm not. You can drink a little, just don't be sloshed. I've had that happen, and you people don't play as well, and sometimes it can be like embarrassing. I just like I want to sound good.
SPEAKER_00I mean, that's just professional, that's just straight up professional, and and that's great. I really appreciate that though, because when I've gotten into band situations, you know, we stand around in the basement at the rehearsal, there's a lot of things that probably should be said that aren't said, you know, let's get into the first song, second song. Oh, this sounds good, and oh, pat each other on the back. You sounded great, everything sounds great, and then the night ends, and nothing in terms of logistics or the pay, and I just went through this, uh, are are said. And you know, if it's a friend of mine in particular, I just kind of let the dogs run. But I have a rule that if I'm not paid in a friend circumstance after three gigs, it's it's over. Like three strikes, you're out. I just don't have time and I need to make money.
SPEAKER_02Um, and the I would say you tell them that, or it's just it's just like unspoken.
SPEAKER_00I'll warn them. I mean, I'll I'll just say, you know, hey, this is we've we've played a few concerts by now, and but you that's a very good point. Uh, and that's what I'm complimenting you for, is that you're bringing those those conversations to the front, and then after they're had, you know, so much about this context you're in, uh, what kind of people you're dealing with. I totally get that. That's a really good technique just to lay things out front.
SPEAKER_01I had to go up early, then I have to do it again.
SPEAKER_00Something I noticed about Mackenzie, aside from the fact that she's sitting near an open window and you can hear the sounds of Portland outside, people getting in their cars and setting the alarm, and then I think there's even a train going by at one point. I found it all very soothing. But she moves
On Stage: Channeling Rage
SPEAKER_00pretty naturally between the business of music and the emotional weight underneath it. Here she is doing exactly that.
SPEAKER_02I think when it comes to like rage and anger I have at my dad, it makes me feel very um. I think if I channel that on stage, I start to like shut down. Um but on the rare occasion it can make me feel empowered. Um but yeah, sometimes I'll use like real channel the real emotions that the songs are really about and try to just give like the most energetic, emotionally raw performance I can. Um and then at other times that's like really bad for me, so I just kind of go on performance mode and make sure that kind of like I'm acting, I don't know, like like I have these particip particular moves that I do during this particular thing, and this is the part of the show where I crawl around on the floor and like stuff like that.
SPEAKER_00I did check out your your album cuts off off Spotify, and there are some parts where I think you're singing and then you're sort of like there are spoken spoken word moments, I'll say, uh where there's there's a little uh bit of an act going there, and and it's very good. Everything's good. By the way, you remind me so much of uh Dolores uh O'Riordan, and I'm not sure if anybody's told you that before.
SPEAKER_02I haven't seen that before. Yeah, oh we're okay. Maybe yes, actually.
SPEAKER_00Have you have you sung Zombie or Linger uh 50 billion times, or have you done those yet?
SPEAKER_02I like Linger, yeah. Um I have I've done it for like karaoke once, yeah. Kind of have a Yodaly portion in a song that's coming out soon. And the recording engineer was like, You sound like the cranberries, it's fun.
SPEAKER_00So I mean that's good company. Uh first great pipes and just very unique, very um, you know, it's it's just a good siren kind to to listen to. It's it's um you know, you're gonna draw people in with that, obviously. So I want to get back to the the social media thing because you just do such a great job. Like honestly, if if I wanted to take a college course on how to promote a ban using all the social media platforms, I'd probably just point to New here and say, look at the link tree, look at the Instagrams. So is that a pretty active job for you? How much goes into that?
SPEAKER_02I could point you to so many bands that do like way more than me, like way more regimented social media posts. Like you're supposed to post like every day with like trending audio, high definition. I just don't do a lot of that, especially on TikTok anymore. TikTok is like a scary platform to me now. Um, and I might just delete the whole thing. And yeah, it says I have like 37,000 followers on there, but most of those came from like one song, Defroster, that went like
The TikTok Lottery
SPEAKER_02vaguely. It did well, it didn't go like viral per se, but it did quite well. Um, and then like I post on TikTok after that, and all my TikToks get like 300 views and like a hundred likes out of 37,000. I was like, it's a crazy, it's a crazy app. It definitely the algorithm functions off of more of a like, it's kind of like a lottery machine. It'll let you have a hit, so then you try to make more content for it. It's a hellscape, don't do TikTok. I just try to post shows and then also I'll just randomly like post shit about whatever I'm up to, or like random videos of me doing normal life stuff. Because I don't know, parasocial relationships can be lucrative. It can also be weird, but I put myself in that position. I've always been a really open person, so it feels pretty natural to me. And it if it doesn't feel natural natural to you, don't do it. Yeah, you're just gonna hate yourself for it. It's when people come up and they like greet you by name and they like mention something that you did last week, and like like people recognize your dog in public or something like it. That's not for everybody.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Well, what's the most recent thing you've recorded? You mentioned a recording earlier, and then I saw there was a collaboration in February. What's something you've recorded or released that you're proud of? What's the story behind it?
SPEAKER_02Um, I'm probably most proud of the EP called Get Sick of Me. It's like what I want New Hero to sound like. We're currently recording another EP that's gonna be similar to that, I hope. Um, it might be called like turbulence or like turbulent. I don't know, I'm playing with it. Yeah, I'm already really proud of a couple of tracks that we have. Hopefully, this year, if all goes well, I will release an EP of seven acoustic tracks with me, an acoustic guitar and a cello player. Oh um, they're my roommate, their name is Kate Kohlart, they're a great cello player, they play in a band called Ann Annie in Alaska, and they're just sublime. Um, and then the other EP will be like the full band, and it's recorded in a studio that does a lot of metal and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_03So I don't know.
SPEAKER_02I'm recording very different genres of things. They should all come out this year, and they're all gonna be under the label of New Here, like the title of New Here as a project, because that's just that's my project. Sure. That's why I feel like I'm not very good at social media too, is because I don't really have a like a brand. There's some things that feel on brand, but like I don't know. I think a lot of our music sounds different and I'll like change. I don't know. It feels inconsistent. I've seen some like beautiful social media pages from like bands that really have an aesthetic nailed down. Their posts are all timed to be like at the most like highest viewing capacity, they're like doing trends and stuff, up engagement, and I just like I don't really do that. I think I just get lucky sometimes, and people just feel like they would like to be my friend, so they follow me and it makes them happy, is my theory.
SPEAKER_00Well, that sounds still like a lot, and you're getting a lot done, but it's interesting because in my primer questions, you described your own challenge as, and I'm quoting you, my own lack of getting shit done. Um, I want to give you some space with that. What does that actually look like?
SPEAKER_02Well, for example, I just posted our May shows on TikTok yesterday, and I just posted all of the photos of the shows. I didn't even like there were screenshots of the posters. I didn't even crop them to look nice. I just threw them up there and I was like, lazy promo is better than no promo. These are our main shows. Like, that's not gonna make anyone interested in the band. But the thought that it might make somebody who doesn't follow us on Instagram or something aware, that could be nice. Yeah, I don't know. I do I I do like to uh I think Rune called them like gimmick shows. Like I like to do shows a weird, like a weird theme because it's fun.
SPEAKER_00I'm a I'm a party host and a performer at heart, so most musicians showing up, setting up my gear, gonna play some songs, hope people like them. But you're saying this is a party, this is an event.
SPEAKER_02So I like to do stage stunts and stuff. I like to smear blood on my face and all that, all that jazz.
SPEAKER_00Where do you get the blood?
Lazy Promo, Gimmick Shows & What's Next
SPEAKER_02Spirit Halloween.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_02Sometimes I do cut my fingers though, because I don't play with a pick. And then if I naturally get blood and I'll just keep playing, it'll spatter all over the guitar. And that's really quite the quite a good effect.
SPEAKER_00Have you uh what kind of reactions have you gotten? Have you ever been surprised like by by doing a theme or something like that and gotten a fan reaction that was interesting?
SPEAKER_02Um it was, I mean, we we had a laundromat show. We just and we played on this weird, really tall balcony inside of this laundromat, and it sold out. We only sold like 30 tickets, but then like only like eight people showed up, and I was like, why?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, what happened?
SPEAKER_02I don't know. I don't know to this day. But I was like, oh, you bring sock puppets and you can make them like sing along. Sock puppet show. I don't know. I'm just like, I want to go to a weird show.
SPEAKER_00What does the next version of New Here look like? You were speaking about before about how you want New Here to sound. Uh what are you actually building toward?
SPEAKER_02Um, I was just thinking about this today and yesterday. I think I'd like to get better at having more of a high-quality social media presence as far as like I'm gonna get a better camera. I want to maybe have slightly more aligned aesthetic stuff, film more stuff with the full band. I'd love to get some like live video from shows that's really high quality, put out those two EPs, and then I would just like to tour like a motherfucker. Also, I've been thinking, I've been reconsidering getting on a record label. I I was asking some bands that are on a record label that's like pretty popular. They're just people that we've played with before. I was like, oh, you're on this record label. Thanks for letting us open for you. Say, how'd you get on your record label? And basically it just seems to be like, you know the right people. And also I would say that these folks are like really young, and like I'm 30, and I think they're probably like 22. I don't know. I know that I can like without a record label sell a hundred CDs and make two grand. And without a record label, I can pay for all the gas and hotels on tour just by like fan supports. I don't really need a label, but I just I just would like the experience of going on tour with slightly bigger bands.
SPEAKER_00Hmm. Love your merch, by the way. You you're doing a great job there. Uh it's all over Bandcamp, New Here, PDX.bandcamp.com. Lots of fun merch uh to choose from. But so we've got the the link tree, uh, and you've got your uh new album there. Um, all the links are there and it's all set. So you're doing a lot, including uh another interview. I love the technique of uh your form, what to know when new here comes to your city. I like that uh how to prepare.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, Rune made that one, Gregory. Yeah, it's been kind of helpful because yeah, we do have like some super fans in places really far away, but it's just the one, or like it's them and their girlfriend or something, you know. So it's like we want to specifically email you because we're kind of counting on you. Uh you will be the only one in that state who knows what we are.
SPEAKER_00Well, I I really wish you the best. I want to thank you so much for taking time to talk with me today, and I want to talk to you some more because there's there's just a lot there. Hope to be able to come out and play uh with you uh and rune at some point. It'd be great to get out to Portland and just meet up. The hardest part about these is I I can't, you know, slap five, shake your hand, give you a hug, whatever. Uh it's so hard after we've had such a great conversation. Yeah, air five. Um, but just wish you the best, McKenzie. Just so great to know you and Rune and Portland through you. I just feel like I've gotten the the best possible introduction to the town. So have a good evening, and uh I will talk to you uh again soon, okay?
SPEAKER_03Sounds great. Thanks, I really appreciate your time.
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