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Episode 272: A Neighbourhood War Like Nothing You Probably Could Imagine

~ Kayla ~ Episode 272

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Hello hello hello!

Thank you all so so much for listening to this episode of Advice 4 The Living in which there is a chaotic neighbourhood feud that almost feels too wild to fathom (even though I know it’s true).

This episode was so wild from top-to-bottom, and beginning-to-end.  I’ve been lucky to have some lovely neighbours throughout Kylie, and stories like these remind me just how lucky I am to not have to encounter nut-jobs like all these people involved besides Candy (obviously lol)

For everyone listening — if you can relate to a neighbour  like this or a person who’s just a general  neighbourhood nuisance… my heart goes out to you and I hope you find at least some peace and solace knowing you’re not alone dealing with people like this. 

Relatable or not, I hope you can at least take away something that stood out to you or a tidbit of something to think about!

Also, I want to reiterate my appreciation for everything you do to interact with this podcast. While downloads are the most helpful (especially if the video has an ad), I truly  appreciate all of it.  From you liking/favouriting/saving the podcast itself or specific episodes that resonate with/stand out to you, to sharing it (either on or off-line/by word of mouth), to when you give it a rating/review on the app you’re tuning in from, and even when you just simply listen.  It really helps propel this podcast forward in the algorithm so that more people can join our ever-growing community movement of difference-makers, world-changers, and those who genuinely care about our fellow humans who are struggling with an invisible burden, even if we don’t share the same opinions/beliefs.  There’s always mutual support and respect and it’s so humbling and beautiful to be a part of!

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Thank you all once again for everything, and I can’t wait to catch you in the next one!  Bye folks!

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Hello, hello, hello. Welcome to or welcome back to advice for the living from someone who only kind of is. My name is Kayla, and sometimes I forget that we have so many new people, and you might not know why specifically I say advice for the living from someone who only kind of is. And so every once in a while I try to explain that because I know we have so many new people coming in, which is amazing. But um, I am on end-of-life hospice care, and I am 100% bedbound. I cannot leave my bed, I haven't left my bed in two years, and so I'm not dead yet, but I'm also not really living this normal life that people live. I'm just in these four walls, which by the way, this podcast has broadened my world because I have listeners in 56 different countries, which is mind-boggling and so humbling and such an honor, and it makes me feel like the world is so much bigger than the four walls that I'm inside. But it's just my morbid sense of humor to say from someone who is only kind of living, because you know, I just explained it. So that's kind of where that comes from. Anywho, um, because that was for the people who are new, so also if you're new and if you're not new, um, just wanted to remind you or let you know that I am an incredibly proud brand ambassador for an amazing vegan, cruelty-free, and Canadian company called Attitude in All Caps Locks. And uh before I say anything else about that or about working with brands or whatever else, I just want to reassure you that I would never in a million years endorse or promote any products or businesses that I don't actually like or use myself. And to be fully transparent, I think people who do that are despicable. It is extremely unethical, it's immoral, and it's dishonest. And no amount of money will ever cause me to go against my own morals and values. 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And I'm so sorry because I know ads suck and they're frustrating and they're annoying, and you can't skip them, and they interrupt things and they're super distracting, and I totally get it. Um, the ads are only up anywhere from a couple hours to a couple days max. And if an episode of mine has um an ad on it and you download that episode, you don't have to do a single thing at all with the ad, you just download the episode, I do receive a very small kickback. And when I say very small, I'm talking like pennies, and you might be thinking, pennies, Kayla, really pennies? You're selling us out and making us listen to these horrendous, you know, commercials for pennies. But the reality, and I'm still choking every time I say this because it keeps getting higher and higher, is that there is over a hundred and thirty one thousand of us, and that money does add up, and it's really helpful. And I know we've talked a lot about money here in the beginning, and I really do apologize for that, but I do need to be fully honest with you guys too, because that's what I've always done. And the reality is that I have a really tight budget, and this podcast is very, very expensive to keep up and running, like it's super pricey to keep it going. I'm on 17 different streaming platforms, which humble brag, I have five stars on all of them. So thank you so much to anyone who has left positive ratings or reviews. It truly means the world to me. Thank you. Um, but it's really pricey to upkeep, and I am on disability income hospice end of life. I can't even afford to pay for my own medications. Like, you know, I'm on a really tight budget. And while I'll continue to make this podcast a priority, um, because it's given me a new purpose and motivation in a community that I love, it is still a huge financial burden. And at the start of every month, I put aside how much it will cost to pay the monthly fee. And any single time I get an attitude commission or ad revenue, it goes directly back into the podcast, completely back in. So it's a miracle for me. I've actually been blessed that I've had a couple months where it's covered the entire fee, and it's a large amount of money to cover in a month. It's quite pricey to keep this up and running, and I've had several months where I've been able to earn enough to not have to pay out of pocket, which is such a blessing. But even if there's just a dent taken off, it is such a blessing because any amount that I take out of the pile that was originally going to go to the podcast, I can then use for other things in my life, like paying for more of my medication. And it truly is a blessing. 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Also, thank you so much to anyone who has shared this podcast, whether it's been online or in person with other people that you feel might also enjoy or benefit from these episodes. It is such an honor to know that people not only tolerate what I have to say, but they look forward to it and it matters to them. Um, I could have never imagined this podcast would have taken off the way that it did when I started it. I thought maybe my mom would listen out of pity and maybe a couple aunts and uncles and maybe a friend, but to see where it's come now is just it's such a blessing. So the more of us that there are, and the more downloads, etc., it takes advice for the living and pushes it further into the algorithm so that it's easier to find us for other people because they see that this community is growing, so it must be good. So they they show it to more people. And the more the merrier in our community, I like to say, because I don't need to tell you guys you're a part of it, you already know, but we may not all share the exact same opinions or beliefs on things, but we have a mutual respect for one another and the genuine desire for the well-being of our fellow humans, whether that's strangers, neighbors, family members, friends, or you know, someone somewhere in between, you know, and I really do feel like kindness can change the world, and that community is the key to life, and as long as you're a better person today than you were yesterday, you've already figured life out, and you're already a winner, and you're already the best. If every single day you are better than who you were before, you have won it life, and I'm so proud of all of us, and I'm proud of this community and what we've made together. It hasn't just been me, we've made it together, and I hope you're proud of it too. Now I've blathered on long enough. I'm so sorry. I know that was a lot of talking. I'm gonna get into the email. I will say this one is very um, I don't even know how to word it. Like it's a little bit, it's a little bit out there, but uh it's definitely interesting, that's for sure. So let's get started. I'm so sorry I've made you wait all this time. Here we go. Hi, Kayla. First of all, I need to say that your podcast has become one of those things I look forward to. I listen while I'm doing dishes or walking my own dog, who I promise is both trained and properly cleaned up after, and you have this way of talking about messy human situations that somehow makes people feel less alone in them. Which brings me to the absolute circus happening on my street right now. For context, my name is Candy, and I live in a fairly quiet suburban neighborhood, the kind where most people know each other's names, everyone waves when they drive by, and the biggest scandal used to be whose recycling bin tipped over in the wind. That was until the dog situation. Directly down the street from me lives a middle-aged couple who own what I can only describe as the most aggressively annoying little dog I have ever encountered in my life. And I'm a dog lover. I'm sure there's a breed name for it, but in my mind it's simply Yappy Chaos Gremlin. This thing barks at everything. Leaves, passing cars, the wind, its own shadow, but the barking isn't even the main problem. The real issue is that this couple walks the dog around the neighborhood constantly and never ever picks up after it. And I mean never, not occasionally forgetting a bag, not pretending to look for one, just letting the dog do its business on people's lawns and strolling away like they're on some sort of bag. Of royal tour. Now here's where the story gets interesting. A few houses over from them lives a group of young guys in their 20s who all share a house together. I've spoken to them a few times over the years when we're outside at the same time. They're actually pretty polite, normal guys. The one I know best is named Colin. And Colin told me that the dog had been using their lawn as a bathroom for months and they had tried doing the adult thing first. They went over and spoke to the couple directly and asked them to please clean up after their dog. Apparently, that conversation went nowhere. Instead of apologizing or even acknowledging the issue, the couple flipped the script and started claiming the young men were quote threatening their dog. They even told other neighbors that the guys were animal abusers and that their tiny dog was afraid of him or them, which, based on everything I've seen, is completely ridiculous. Now here's where the situation from the neighbor goes from neighborhood annoyance to something I genuinely cannot believe I am typing to you. Cullen and his roommates decided that if the dog owners were gonna keep leaving their dog's bodily functions on other people's lawn, they would return the favor. But not with the dog's waste, with their own. They literally started sitting by the front window watching the dog like hawks. And every time it came into their lawn and the owners didn't clean up after it, they added it to a tally. And then, and I'm not exaggerating, they would go outside later and repay the balance on the dog owner's lawn. Yes, Kayla. Full grown men popping a squat, human beings pooping on the neighbor's lawn. I have personally witnessed at least one instance where they also urinated there for good measure. And before you ask, no, this is not happening in the dead of night like some covert mission. One time it was the middle of the evening and they were acting like they were just watering the grass. The dog owners, meanwhile, are absolutely furious because someone keeps leaving what is very obviously human waste on their lawn. They've been walking around the neighborhood asking if anyone has seen anything suspicious. They keep saying things like, Who would do something like this? Why would anyone target us? We're thinking of putting up cameras. And I have to stand there nodding sympathetically while internally thinking, you cannot possibly be this oblivious. The problem is I know exactly who's doing it. Colin told me their entire plan weeks ago, and now that I've seen it happen with my own eyes, I can confirm it's not just a joke they were talking about. Part of me thinks this is the most ridiculously and oddly poetic form of vigilante justice I have ever witnessed, and another part of me is aware that if this somehow escalates into police involvement or cameras catching something, it could become a serious neighborhood disaster. And now the dog owners have started going door to door asking if anyone knows anything. So here's my dilemma. Do I one tell them the truth about what's happening and potentially ignite a full-scale neighbor war between a middle-aged couple and four guys in their 20s? Or I play completely dumb, shrug my shoulders, and continue watching what has honestly been the most entertaining neighborhood drama I have experienced in years. I know this sounds insane, but I promise you every word of it is true. Please help me decide whether I should be the responsible adult in this situation or just quietly enjoy the unfolding chaos. Sincerely, Candy. Oh my actual goodness. Like, are you kidding me? Oh my gosh. Candy, this is wild. That's wild. Like in daylight, these men are pulling their pants down and kind of squatting and having a bowel movement on the dog owner's lawn. Like what? Um, anyway, so first of all, I guess I want to thank you for writing in, because I have to tell you, this may just be one of the most bizarre neighborhood disputes I've literally ever heard in my entire life. And the l the fact that you managed to tell the story with like so much clarity while I was sitting here, like repeatedly saying, There's no way this gets more unhinged than that, only for it to like get even more unhinged. Like it's it's insane, it's honestly impressive. Um, now before I say anything else, let's just acknowledge the obvious truth here. What Colin and his housemates are doing is objectively ridiculous. We're talking about full-grown adults engaged engaging in what can only be described as, I guess, like um not medical, like biological retaliation. Like this is not a prank, it's not a passive-aggressive note, and it's not just kind of like putting up a sign that says please pick up after your dog. This is a group of 20-something men who are keeping like a literal scoreboard of canine bathroom visits and responding by personally evening the score. That being said, um I cannot stand for the life of me, people who don't clean up after their animals. It absolutely drives me through the roof. I think it is disgusting. I think it is despicable. I think anyone who's had a dog that they've walked, every I'm I think everybody has had a moment where they thought they had poop bags on them, or maybe they thought they had, you know, one left in the roller or whatever, and they realize, oh my gosh, I don't have a poo bag, and they have to leave it there. I I I recognize that that does happen. I used to have a service dog, um, and luckily for me, he had a vest that I could clip his um poop bags to, so he used to carry his own. Um, but when he wasn't working and he was just off duty, you know, you have to pick up after your animal, and it it really bothers me, and I think people shouldn't be allowed to have animals if they're not going to respect the neighborhood and the other people around by picking up after their animal, honestly. Like, I just want to put that out there. If someone told me this story in like a casual conversation, I would probably immediately just like assume that they were exaggerating or maybe like leaving out key details or making it sound worse than what it is. But the fact that you've seen it with your own eyes somehow just makes it even like funnier and more unbelievable at the same time. So I guess now we should talk about your dilemma. That's what you wrote in about. On one hand, there's the responsible neighbor response, and that response would say, Candy, you should absolutely tell the dog owners that you know, so the situation can de-escalate before it turns into a full-blown neighborhood war. That would be like the mature community-minded conflict resolution answer. But I also want to acknowledge something very human here. Sometimes when people behave with that level of like oblivious entitlement, walking their dog around this neighborhood and repeatedly leaving its mess on other people's property, they create the conditions for this kind of absurd like backlash. You know, you mentioned that Colin and his roommates actually tried to address the issue like adults first. They spoke to the couple, explained the problem, and asked them to pick up after their dog. And um, you know, I'm assuming just based on the fact that this dog is doing this to other people, that other people have told these people the dog owners that they need to pick up after their dog. Like it's probably not the first time they've heard it. And instead of trying to fix the problem, the couple allegedly then starts accusing them of being animal abusers and are telling people that their tiny dog was afraid of them and blah blah blah. Like that's the moment where the situation stopped being just a normal neighborhood disagreement and kind of started drifting into the territory of, you know, well, if you're not gonna listen to reason, maybe, you know, people may choose other methods. Now, I do endorse, like do I endorse retaliatory um like lawn defecation as a conflict resolution strategy. No, it's chaotic, it's unsanitary, and if cameras grow up go up, somebody is eventually gonna have a very awkward conversation explaining themselves. But I will say this: you're not the one doing it, you're not the one orchestrating it, you're not even participating in it, you're simply what I would say a witness. And sometimes in life we find ourselves accidentally kind of cast in this role of like the neighborhood documentary narrator, you know, like every once in a while I think probably on anybody's street, there's been some kind of drama of some kind at some point. Um, so you know, when the I think that like you know what's happening and you know why it's happening, and the people responsible for the original problem appear just completely baffled about the consequences of their own behavior. Like they don't understand why people are doing this on their lawn, and it's like, how are you not making the connection that you are letting your dog leave, defecate, and leave the mess on this person's lawn over and over and over, and now all of a sudden there's feces on your lawn. Hmm, I wonder if there's a connection there, but they didn't even think like that. So when the dog owners come knocking on your door asking if you've seen anything suspicious, you technically have a range of options available to you. You could expose the entire, I guess what's a good word, like operation or plan, and become kind of this unwilling, what I would say like mediator in what would almost certainly turn into a very dramatic confrontation. Or you could politely just kind of say something along the lines of, I haven't personally seen who's doing it, but you know, maybe someone in the neighborhood is frustrated about the dog waste situation. And like noticed how that response does two things at once. It doesn't directly accuse anyone, but it gently reminds them that their own behavior may have created the mystery that they're trying to solve in their heads. And if they choose to reflect on that, that's wonderful. And if they remain oblivious, well then the universe, and apparently, you know, Colin and his buddy's digestive system, may continue delivering lessons. Um now I will say one practical thing, which is that if cameras go up, this situation will probably resolve itself very quickly because the moment someone gets caught like mid-revenge, the chaos will reach its natural conclusion. But until then, Candy, I suspect that you may continue to have front row seeds to the most unusual neighborhood justice system I've ever heard about. And you know, just remember that being a slightly nosy neighbor is practically a community service when the story is this wild. So I do want to thank you for sharing this absolute masterpiece of suburban chaos. And please, please, please, if there are updates, I think everyone listening and myself would love to know how this unfolds. Please give us updates. Um I I really do appreciate you sharing this with us. This was such a wild story. I can't believe this is going on, but I know that I would keep my mouth shut and just watch it and wait to see what happens. That would be my choice. And uh why get yourself involved? You know, like if you are the one that says, oh yeah, it's them, now all of a sudden you're thrown into the mix of the problem when before you were just an invisible witness that nobody really saw or knew about. So I don't see any reason to get involved at this point. Just grab some popcorn and wait and watch what happens. Um, yeah, thank you for sharing. With that being said, and speaking of updates from this situation, if I've ever done an episode for you, um, I would absolutely love to see an update um about how you're doing now, uh, what's changed since that episode has aired, what is the same, what's different, are things better. If unfortunately there's they've gotten worse, maybe there's something I can do to support in another way. Uh, but I would love an update because I know for myself, and I'm sure for everyone listening, half the time when I upload these episodes, I'm like, I wonder what happened, or if they heeded my advice, what they did with what I said, um, if they used the letters I wrote, whatever. Like, I want to know what happened afterwards and what were the consequences and all of that stuff. So please, if I've already done an episode for you, please send me an update. I'd love to know. Um, and just in general, if you've been uh wanting to send an email, but you've kind of been on the fence, uh, please do send that email if you want me to change any names or details to protect your privacy or your anonymity. I'm more than happy to do so. Just let me know in the email. Um I I absolutely love seeing a full inbox because let's face it, uh, without your emails, I'd have nothing to respond or react to. Therefore, there would be no episode, and therefore there would be no podcast. So I really can't do it without you. And stay tuned because you never know when your episode will be next. So, with all that being said, thank you all once again for being here, for your patience, for your love, your encouragement. Um, the link to get 10% off your entire purchase at Attitude will be in the description of this episode with a reminder that that link will no longer be valid as of March 31st. But I will be getting a new link, and uh we'll be using that one instead, so or promo code whatever it ends up being, that will be there. But for now, that link will be in the description of this episode, and I truly cannot wait to catch you in the next one. This was totally a wild story. Um, I was shocked at all of it. So can't wait to catch you in the next one, and I'll see you there. Bye folks.