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In Max We Truzz
Real‑life things for real‑life people—no filters, no fluff. Hosted by Max Paul, In Max We Truzz dives head‑first into the stories that shape us: from the highs and lows of life after sports to the messy realities of mental health, relationships, business, and hustle culture. Each 60‑minute episode pairs Max’s energetic, humorous style with candid conversations from athletes, industry experts, creators, and entrepreneurs you know (and some you should know).
Expect raw language, unvarnished truths, and the occasional hot take—because authenticity isn’t always PG‑13. Weekly drops include:
- “The Real” – unfiltered dialogue with headline‑making guests
- Audience Q&A – Max answers your toughest life, career, and relationship questions
- Closing Monologue – rapid‑fire wisdom bombs from every guest
Whether you’re navigating a post‑athlete identity, scaling a startup, or just craving a straight‑shooting pep talk, this show hands you practical insight—and a laugh—every single week.
New episodes every Thursday. Subscribe now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, or your favorite app, and join the conversation with #InMaxWeTruzz.
Warning: Explicit language & brutally honest perspectives ahead. Listener discretion—and an open mind—advised.
In Max We Truzz
The Art of Reading People: Dating Insights from an HR Veteran Ashley King
What if finding the right partner was closer to a job interview than we'd like to admit? In this revealing conversation with HR professional Ashley King, we discover how her talent for reading people professionally has become her superpower in navigating relationships.
Ashley doesn't hold back as she identifies crucial dating red flags that signal potential heartbreak - from partners who prioritize nightlife over quality time to those creating inappropriate social media content for attention. Her refreshingly pragmatic approach to vetting potential partners includes a strategic "90-day rule" and a three-tier system of introducing them to different social circles before getting too invested.
The conversation takes an unexpected turn when Ashley challenges the common belief that women are complicated. "We're a lot easier to deal with than men portray us to be," she insists, explaining that most relationship struggles come down to partners not feeling seen, heard, or valued. Through personal examples, she illustrates how simple acknowledgment and clear communication can transform daily interactions.
We explore the fascinating distinction between "talking," "courting," and exclusive dating—terms that often carry different meanings for different people. Ashley emphasizes how understanding these stages can prevent misalignment of expectations from the start. One particularly compelling segment addresses how women who've developed independence still desire the opportunity to be feminine in relationships, but "men have to create that safe space and security for women to be able to be soft."
As Ashley reflects on her own growth journey, she maintains unwavering standards for future relationships. Her perspective balances optimism with practicality, reminding us that while nobody is perfect, the right partnership offers grace, effective communication, and mutual growth.
Ready to transform how you approach dating? Listen now and discover what it truly means to date with purpose and read between the lines.
All right, we're back Another episode of In Max we Trust. Today we have Miss Ashley King in the building. Miss Ashley, let's talk about you for a second. Let people know what you do and how we are connected.
Speaker 3:That's a kind of fully loaded question. So what we do and how we're connected are a little different, so I'll start with how we're connected. So, Max and I go way back so. Max and I go way back, man, my early 20s we used to work out extreme workout With Coach Banks. Yes, coach Banks. Shout out Coach Banks. Yeah, so I mean we've just been good friends for forever.
Speaker 2:It's like 10, 12 years now. Yeah, jesus, we're old.
Speaker 3:As far as what I do professionally, I am in HR and recruiting. I'm a talent acquisition manager, so my job is to interview people for a living, to read people for a living, right. But I oversee all of the hiring for my entire company. We have 29 branches across the country, so I oversee all of the hiring, as well as my team. I have an amazing team, so shout out team in case you guys are watching this.
Speaker 2:So you said your job is to read people for a living.
Speaker 3:Read people. My job is to read between the lines.
Speaker 2:Now that's funny. You say that Because when it comes to reading people in this era, I just feel like in the dating population people don't read and kind of vet their options well enough in the beginning phases. You know what I mean. Like women always are hollering men, ain't shit, men be cheating. If you did the research you would have seen he's a cheater.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, you got to pay attention to the flags. I think it's also challenging too because sometimes people are good at faking the funk right. So if you're good at putting on a facade, that you know you're some good guy and you know you want all of these things, knowing good and well that you don't shame on you if you do that. But um, it is about reading the room, reading actions and not ignoring the red flags, like the flags are always there um somebody said one time they said the red flags, Like the flags, are always there.
Speaker 3:Somebody said one time they said the red flags you ignore in the beginning are the same red flags that are the reason you end up leaving in the end. What?
Speaker 4:are some red flags then.
Speaker 2:Like what are the top five that you look for in a man? Red flags?
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:They don't have to be in order. Yeah, just five.
Speaker 3:If he's outside, like, how often do you go out? Like, do you like to be outside, outside?
Speaker 2:What do you mean by that? Yeah, what kind of outside are we talking about?
Speaker 3:Like are you going out every weekend To a bar or some shit To a bar? Are you coming home at 3 am every weekend, like, if you want to be in a relationship, start. Why are you going out until 3 am every week? No, you want to be single, but you want the benefits and perks of having something to come home to. That don't work for me. So if you're outside, that's a big red flag.
Speaker 4:Another red flag A lot of friends that are girls.
Speaker 3:That's always challenging. Definitely makes you go, hmm.
Speaker 2:Sean, you're shooting me in the foot with that one.
Speaker 3:You're killing me, bro. There's always exceptions to the rules. I think you have to gauge it right. I think Max is an exception. Max is a great guy, you know. He's just. He's always been a really, really good guy, but not everybody.
Speaker 4:You know you can't say that for everybody right Dang red flags, you're at two.
Speaker 3:I'm totally two right there. I know I know, but you want me to kind of spit it.
Speaker 4:I mean, it could probably also be a lot of girls he's texting.
Speaker 2:But I feel like they would fall in the same category as the other one If he's got a lot of female friends.
Speaker 3:Right, that leads me. You just made me think of one Social media presence. Are you thirst trapping Like I should not see your print, sir, in a picture on your page.
Speaker 2:Like, if you've got your shirt off, I put that gray sweatpants on for my comfort.
Speaker 3:Okay, I was doing laundry Felt the need to take a picture.
Speaker 2:Okay, you know what?
Speaker 3:People have the ability to not post certain. You can crop a picture. I'm just saying For what. But if you have a picture where you see stiff that you shouldn't see unless you guys are in an intimate setting, that shouldn't be for the world to see. So for me that's a red flag. Might not be a red flag for you you you know, knock yourself out with gray sweatpants but for me that would be a red flag, because to me that's thirst, trapping you like attention.
Speaker 2:I think what's sexy is I feel like women do that shit all the time though that's what you see a little bit bikinis and shit, even if it's not, even if it's just like a well-put-together outfit. Like you said, the yoga pants. You know what I mean. Like she went to the gym, that little side pose at the gym in the yoga pants and a sports bra. Come on now and they're doing it all the time, that's thirst trap 101 right there.
Speaker 4:That's three or four times a week.
Speaker 3:So that's what I was going to say Definitely it's percentage. What percentage of her page or her content is thirst trapping and what percentage is not? Because if she's got a one-off. Yeah, be sexy, Feel good. Same thing with a guy. I'm not saying don't post your hard work and don't show a nice, attractive picture. I'm just saying be mindful I mean, if a woman's wearing and this is just my opinion if a woman is wearing some really tight leggings and you see a print, she probably shouldn't post that.
Speaker 1:A camel toe.
Speaker 3:A camel toe no Like no, I should not see your camel toe. I'm just saying, Just like you know, we should not be able to see that.
Speaker 4:I mean, it's not like we're walking around in yoga pants and just putting it to the side and just being like check this out, it could be worse.
Speaker 2:We're walking around in yoga pants and just putting it to the side and just being like check this out.
Speaker 4:I mean, like I'm saying like it could be worse.
Speaker 2:If I just went to the gym in just like my Nike tights. You know what I mean Nike tights and like a t-shirt, that's it. Thugging it, thugging it. Get nothing accomplished.
Speaker 3:I cannot with you, you should make a a video like that.
Speaker 2:Think I won't. Don't do that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, bro, Post it on MX. We Trust man. I'll see you on Monday and then have someone like a hidden camera just recording people's reactions.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, my brother will do it for me.
Speaker 1:I got him, I got him.
Speaker 3:That's hilarious.
Speaker 2:If those are your red flags, have you ever dealt with somebody who hit a couple of those? You were like you know, but I like him.
Speaker 3:Looking like Six Flags and Red.
Speaker 2:Flags. Yeah, man, when you see a Red Flag you're like but he's fine though.
Speaker 3:But he fine, though, again, those are the same Red Flags that will come up later and will ultimately end the relationship. Like you can't ignore them Like you can't, but that's the challenge. Women want to be so cute, but he chucks all these boxes. But, girl, look at the other stuff. Do you really want to put yourself through that rollercoaster? Yeah, it's looking like six flags, but you don't want to fly off.
Speaker 2:It's going to be fun at the best part.
Speaker 4:You know what I mean, so are you dating around your age, or your goal was always older men.
Speaker 1:Because the older men are usually the ones that don't hit those fires because they've matured right.
Speaker 3:You would hope so. Yeah, you would hope so. You would hope so, so are you going five, ten years older. I mean, I'm kind of open you know, I mean I do like older men. So I mean that's kind of preference, because you want that level of maturity, you want them to have had those life experiences, right Mm-hmm.
Speaker 4:So that's a yes, that's a yes, you know.
Speaker 3:That's a hard, yes, hey, that hard five.
Speaker 2:And up brother, five, yes, and up that nigga who's 27. Hey, partner, go ahead and shut it down. Go ahead and shut it down. Now, what's the youngest have you ever gone? Younger than you? That's a yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, buddy, there's the code Got him ready, got him ready.
Speaker 2:So let me transition here. If you were giving advice to women in today's dating, what would you say to them?
Speaker 3:Ask the right questions. Don't overinvest early. Really, make sure you know what you're getting into. Educate yourself right, interview them. You're interviewing them for the most important job they will ever apply for you and you have to make sure somebody is fully qualified because if you make that, you know knee-jerk reaction, or oh he's cute, or he checks a couple boxes well, you might end up hiring an employee that you're going to have to fire later. So save yourself some heartache. You know, really do the research, you know. I say don't be intimate early, because that's where feelings, you know, get caught up. It's just inevitable.
Speaker 2:So would you give them the 90-day rule?
Speaker 3:Yeah, or close to it. Make sure you fully vet it, though I'm gonna vet it.
Speaker 2:90 days Woo.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's a hard stretch, that's a long time.
Speaker 3:Maybe two months. You have to make sure you know who they are Okay. You know, before you take that step, like that's a big step. You know I don't take that lightly.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's a big step. You know I don't take that lightly. Yeah, you know what I mean. So, like what meet their parents and shit. Huh, meet their parents and shit.
Speaker 3:I mean, are we dating with purpose?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I was going to say it depends.
Speaker 3:Are we, you know?
Speaker 2:Because I mean, as someone who's got a kid, I've dated girls and none.
Speaker 3:Well, that's different, Because you probably haven't seen potential.
Speaker 2:That's different though. Yeah, but I'm saying like, because that's your kid, that's my kid.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but family's the same way.
Speaker 4:But no, I mean Like, if you're meeting my parents or my kids like that's because that's huge, that's a.
Speaker 2:I gotta see something 100%.
Speaker 3:You don't just bring anybody around your family three intentionally, the other one was by accident.
Speaker 4:Okay so then, a brother or sister. A brother or sister definitely siblings right a sibling would be.
Speaker 3:Yeah, friends, right you gotta, you have to get people who know you cause they'll be like yo.
Speaker 4:That bitch is crazy right did you see this?
Speaker 2:I know me. I got layers to it so like I'm gonna bring you around like associates and just see how they feel, then I'm going to bring you around the inner circle see how they feel and then if you get past that, then you can get a family function.
Speaker 4:So we're talking about a three-tier interview system. I like it.
Speaker 3:I like it.
Speaker 2:Now we're talking, it's mandatory, because if you can't get past the one or two layer, then ah no, we can't have that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you've done that before. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's how my daughter's mom got here. You have to. That's how that happened, oh gosh, but no you have to.
Speaker 3:You have to get the insight of other people, because people are always going to see things from a different perspective, right? That's why they always say you know, really be intentional about your circle, your friends. One, because they're either pouring into you or they're taking away from you. So either they're going to encourage your bad habits or behaviors or condone going to six flags, right, instead of telling you, like girl, no, those are red flags, it's not pink, it's red.
Speaker 2:Boom, boom stop.
Speaker 4:So I mean, you talk to a shit ton of people, right?
Speaker 1:I do.
Speaker 4:Because it's your job, you have to. When can you tell someone's bullshit in you?
Speaker 3:I think that's giving the answers to everybody, but you know I'll go ahead and give you guys the inside scoop. So I mean, it's all about confidence, right? You can tell when somebody's blowing smoke and when somebody's blowing smoke and when somebody's being genuine. Are you confident? Do you sound like you know what you're talking about? Do you sound genuine or are you hesitating? Are you pausing? Is there some reservation? I mean you've got to read and pay attention to that.
Speaker 4:So essentially you're reading tonalities. Reading tonalities, reading body language, because you're not always meeting these people in person. You're talking to them on the phone. On the phone, maybe a Zoom call or something like that 100%.
Speaker 3:It's not what you say, it's how you say it, and you can tell if somebody's blowing smoke or if they're being genuine by their delivery. Like, do they sound like legit, like what they're talking about? Or do they sound like like legit, like what they're talking about, or do they sound like I'm trying to fumble my way through this? Like no, bro, I, I can tell no that's not right.
Speaker 2:Is it like the when you say that? Is it like the guys who have like a long list of how they want their woman to be but don't fit the same criteria?
Speaker 3:um, that's a completely different topic, so so what I will say is dang, you just kind of threw me off with that too of where I was going to go.
Speaker 1:No, no, no.
Speaker 3:That's a good question. Left turn, left turn. Baby Believe in it. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:Thought it was safe, get out of here.
Speaker 3:So I'm a firm believer that if you ask the right questions and you let somebody talk, they'll tell you everything you want to know. So it's really just about yeah, go ahead and sit, but I think that's the biggest part. So, as far as requirements from men, I think it really can go both ways. But let's take a man and let's say that he's got this long list of what he wants in a woman she's got to be beautiful, her body's got to be together, she's got to have a good job, she's got to do this, she's got to do that. But he, walking around looking like Humpty, dumpty, done, fell off the wall and I'm like, make it make sense. Like, how do you have this long list of requirements of how you want someone to show up and look and you don't even look the part?
Speaker 4:Damn. There's a blast into reality right there. She's basically saying all you fat motherfuckers are screwed.
Speaker 2:Hey, us is the ugly community. We got to do better for her apparently.
Speaker 1:It's okay.
Speaker 2:But I mean. So how would you want him? For the guy you're referring to, what would he then need to? Is it just a he's got to do?
Speaker 3:his part. So whatever you are requiring of someone, you have to be able to match and be able to give that to somebody else okay all right. So if you want their mental health to be in order, your mental health needs to be in order if you want them to to be confident, well then, you need to be confident. If you want them to look a certain way, you need to look a certain way. You can't sit here and expect to have some trophy wife, and you're just walking around.
Speaker 2:Regular degular.
Speaker 3:No worse than regular degular. Oh okay, you're just fluffy.
Speaker 4:But then you see a lot of people that have a lot of money that are walking around and they think that that's going to hold the weight for them right.
Speaker 3:And sometimes it does. That works for certain people. But then you have to question what is the sincerity of that relationship? Is she just in it for the money?
Speaker 1:obviously, how many?
Speaker 2:times do you?
Speaker 3:see women walking around with somebody, like she's with him.
Speaker 2:He's got to have money. First off, it's because I'm funny, but I think that's also a two-way street, though, because you could go on any social media platform right now and you'll find women that say he's gotta be six foot, make six figures, do X, y and Z, and she's the only family model.
Speaker 4:That's right.
Speaker 3:Case in point. Case in point, case in point so I mean. I mean, and some men might be okay with that, because she might be doing. I mean, some men, it might not work for you, but some men might be okay with that.
Speaker 2:Everybody named mama. Seen what you do. I am golden on that.
Speaker 4:I mean that chick's good for like a couple weeks and that's it funsies, that's it.
Speaker 2:Are you dating, are you?
Speaker 3:dating for purpose or what are you dating for?
Speaker 2:Her Not for purpose, her Dating.
Speaker 3:Loosely.
Speaker 2:I'm not even putting the loosely on it. You know what this is. Stop it.
Speaker 3:Well then, that's, different. So do you have any requirements for that? No, there should be no expectations other than what are your requirements, bro?
Speaker 4:Exactly.
Speaker 2:My requirements yeah.
Speaker 4:That's what she's asking.
Speaker 2:Oh, I got my requirements Ready A little bit toxic, just a little bit Just a little bit.
Speaker 4:You want a crazy bitch, Just you know.
Speaker 3:Okay, elaborate on that.
Speaker 4:What do?
Speaker 1:you mean by a little toxic?
Speaker 2:or is that over the wall? That whole? Every Hispanic woman I've ever dated has woke up in the middle of the night or the morning after and been in a pissy mood because she had a dream she got cheated on. Yeah, see, you know what I'm talking about. You know what I'm talking about. I can't believe you. You cheated on me when In my dream? Oh my God.
Speaker 3:What are you trying to say about Hispanic women? Are you trying to give all of us a bad rap?
Speaker 4:I couldn't live with my sister.
Speaker 2:So you're saying you have no toxic tendencies? I never had a period in life where you were little.
Speaker 3:I mean, I think we've all had moments where we've crashed out right.
Speaker 4:Do you ever get mad at a boyfriend over a dream?
Speaker 3:Over a dream?
Speaker 4:No, See, remember when you were talking about reading people and hesitating instead of saying it that part, that part.
Speaker 3:I was going to elaborate.
Speaker 2:That's good, that's good, I was like here comes this butt. Look at you taking notes. Here comes this butt.
Speaker 1:Butt.
Speaker 3:Butt, I can't say that I didn't feel a way the next day. It's like sometimes dreams are like real, you know, like it feels real. It feels like it happened, like I'm You're so gross.
Speaker 2:No, I've been sleeping for the last eight hours. Have y'all never Okay?
Speaker 3:Take women, men cheating out of the dream. Have you ever had a dream that felt real? Hell, yes. Okay, thank you Case in point.
Speaker 4:I rest my case. But then I woke up and then I was like oh, thank God.
Speaker 3:Touche, touche, exactly. And then I was relieved 100%. That's why I said I've never gone to the extreme that he's talking about. Like I had a dream.
Speaker 2:But you were a little sassy to that man the rest of the day.
Speaker 3:No For the whole little.
Speaker 2:Look, look, look, baby, you want something to eat? No, I don't.
Speaker 1:I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine, and this is the one that get me. What do you want to?
Speaker 2:eat. I don't know, I don't know what. How do you not know? That's my other requirement. That's going to be my new requirement, moving forward, if I ask you what you want, you how many women?
Speaker 4:have you dated Since when? Put a time frame on it, the fact that you would?
Speaker 2:want that Seriously dated, seriously dated, seriously dated.
Speaker 1:Because, believe it or not?
Speaker 4:most women are not decisive when it comes to what they want to eat. Can we? What do you want to eat?
Speaker 3:I mean he said you have to give a woman an option. So he goes there's a Chick-fil-A bet, can you get me this, this, this and this? Boom, I knew exactly. You can't just leave it open. No, hey babe, do you want to go here? Hey babe, what about? Oh, yeah, that does sound. Ooh, sushi does sound good.
Speaker 2:Fellas fellas watch this. I got y' ooh, I saw that scene. Ooh, yeah.
Speaker 3:Ruth, chris. Ah, that's it. That's the one right there.
Speaker 2:Mom and as we're riding, reservation done, got you covered, fellas, that's the one. That's the one. Now you don't have to ask her. See, we're ready now. I'm getting older, we're learning. But you getting older, we learning, you see that's just.
Speaker 1:That's a good tactic to use absolutely I saw that video, I saw that reel, I was like damn, what a good idea.
Speaker 4:I use it on my wife and I was like it works every time.
Speaker 3:And not only that, but what about just making babe? I got reservations for us at eight.
Speaker 4:Go get ready and then figuring out where no, you, you make the decision.
Speaker 3:That's where we going, babe. Hey, I got reservations for us at 8. Go get cute Taking you out. Women love that.
Speaker 2:I'm still going to eat in these gray sweatpants.
Speaker 4:Oh, they love it when the reservations are at Ruth, Chris, Eddie V's fucking.
Speaker 3:Well, you're not going to say no to any of those, are you? Oh no, absolutely not. Yeah, see.
Speaker 4:Capitol Grill.
Speaker 3:Especially Ruth Chris. You, oh no, absolutely not see capital grill, especially, uh, ruth chris no, that sweet potato casserole.
Speaker 4:Baby god, I do not like that restaurant. I'm with you, I'm like, do you?
Speaker 3:know what? I took friends there and they did not have a good experience. I'm like this, guys, I'm sorry I let you down, because it's normally like way better. This will say, like the last time I was there, I had a horrible experience what did you?
Speaker 4:order, though I was sitting at the bar now. Mind you, I may have gotten a little drunk, I may have pissed off the bartender, but then the bartender moved to uh, to eddie v's. She saw me at eddie v's and she was like I'm so sorry for the way I treated you. I was having a bad day and, irregardless of the way she treated me, I still tipped her above 20 just to show her yo, you're being a dick, oh, but that says a lot about your character, though.
Speaker 4:Yeah well, I mean, like you don't know if they're going through a bad day you don't, but as long as they serve you well, but they treat you like shit. I mean you still tip the same because you're not tipping for their. I mean you kind of are when you go to those places, but also you know you don't know what happened.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think that's also a red flag, like when you go out on a date with a guy, how he treats the server and the waiter. Like how do you treat the people who are serving you?
Speaker 1:You know?
Speaker 3:are you rude or you know? Do you take care of them? Do?
Speaker 4:you show them kindness. I think that's either way. I would say I think that's either way, Like if I take a girl out and she's being just disrespectful Like snooty.
Speaker 2:What? Oh, I'll leave you with this bill. You got a problem. Are you an ad student? Alright cool, Watch this.
Speaker 3:I think not. I'll have the ribs smothered in onions Smothered in onions. Go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 2:I'm hitting this bathroom real quick.
Speaker 4:See you later, Shoot I saw another reel like that too. Yeah, and the chick actually filmed it. Really oh, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, where she got stuck with the chick because I don't know what the fuck the reason was, but she was like being a bitch or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she would be disrespectful to the waitress.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and dude left.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't good for him, I don't like that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's down with him. Technically that's dining and dashing, but hey, no, it's not there's a party.
Speaker 3:There's somebody still there. There's somebody still here.
Speaker 2:If we both leave his dining and dashing she got money in her pocket She'll be all right.
Speaker 3:Now I have a question Answer. Did he order food or did they just get started?
Speaker 4:Did he go all the way through? It went to the bathroom and then dipped out.
Speaker 3:Oh wow, and she was waiting there for 30 minutes. Well, I mean, if she was being ugly, I'm just saying God don't like ugly.
Speaker 2:She must have been and look in that building like her paycheck. So it's cool. But the one thing I always say if a guy, let's say you're out, if he doesn't open doors, do you notice if he puts you on the inside of the street? Of course, okay, because I taught my daughter nobody can walk with her unless she's on the inside of the street.
Speaker 3:Absolutely. That's how it goes.
Speaker 2:It's mandatory.
Speaker 3:So what if he?
Speaker 2:doesn't do it.
Speaker 3:But he's fine Making a note. I'm going to make a note and evaluate. Was that a one-off? Was he not thinking?
Speaker 2:Was he distracted? Like two dates in a row? No, there's no third date. But the third date's going to be like he's going to fly you out of the country. You have to be a gentleman. Well, he's going to fly you out of the country on the third date.
Speaker 3:Okay. So here's the thing the person that you date is teaching your children how to be treated by other people. Like, if you're dating a man, he's teaching your son how to treat women and he's also teaching your daughter how she should be treated. So if he's not courting and being a gentleman, then what expectations she's just going to fall for anything? Absolutely not. What about car doors?
Speaker 4:Car doors are mandatory Every single day, not every single time. What I think in the beginning stages.
Speaker 3:No, not for the rest of your life. That's just, that's a bit much. That's a bit much, nah, I think when you're initially getting to know somebody, yeah sure, absolutely you show up. Consistency is key, though, like don't just put on a show, just put on because you're interviewing. Well, I mean shit.
Speaker 4:I was married. I opened up my wife's car door every single time for four years. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Yeah, when you go on a date, but then after the four years I was like babe, do I really?
Speaker 4:She's like no, I don't give a fuck. I'm like okay, perfect, good.
Speaker 1:Go get tired.
Speaker 3:Open it up.
Speaker 2:I like it.
Speaker 3:But I think in the courting stages I think it's important With the umbrella shit.
Speaker 4:Not with an umbrella, but.
Speaker 2:I'll do it when it's raining.
Speaker 4:Okay, that's fine. So we run to the car and I'll open it for her, so she doesn't have to worry about that.
Speaker 2:Just get the umbrella and you can just walk her there.
Speaker 4:Oh, you don't know what's going to rain? It's fucking Florida, bro Valid.
Speaker 2:Now you're having notebook moments where y'all running in the rain and shit.
Speaker 4:You know what?
Speaker 1:I mean I get it.
Speaker 2:You're trying to be cute. I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm not mad at it. But you.
Speaker 4:Subscribe. Hit that notification button. I'm not fucking leaving. Oh look at God.
Speaker 2:Look at God. We are back for round two of In Max.
Speaker 1:We Trust, let's go.
Speaker 2:And we was in relationship topics. So one thing I know we were talking about it off air what do you feel the biggest misconception about women is?
Speaker 3:I think that we're a lot easier to deal with than men portray us to be. Or I'm serious. Let me give you an example Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 3:So I have one of my homeboys he was just talking to me and he's like man, he's like you know, I go home and you know, first thing my wife wants to do is talk my ear off. When I come in the door, I'm like okay. I'm like well, you know that you have the ability to create the exact relationship that you want just by communicating and setting those expectations. But it's also important and this is what I mean by women are easy to deal with, or easier to deal with than you think is because you have to learn them. What are their love languages, what are their needs? For example, if a husband was to come in the house and he knows that his wife is going to want to talk his ear off, she missed him. She wants to see him Say hey.
Speaker 3:He has to set the tone to say, hey, babe, I missed you, how was your day? I'm going to go take a shower. I've had a really long day. Let me decompress and after I decompress, we can come watch a show together. We'll eat dinner, we'll watch a show. You're setting the tone, you're acknowledging her and feeding her in that moment and filling her tank up by giving her a kiss, saying hello, even throwing an. I miss you today, and then you're letting her know I had a really long, stressful day. I'm going to go take a shower, give me a few, let me decompress, and then, after I get myself together, we can sit on the couch and watch a show or a movie or something. Right? You're filling her tank while also letting her know leave me alone, I need some time. But you're doing it in a soft and loving way that is going to yield the result that you want, right?
Speaker 3:So essentially, you're saying communicate what you need, but while also reassuring some interest in her at the point of time that's the reassurance, that's the word, because there's plenty of times I get home.
Speaker 4:I don't want to talk, but she she reads that and she's like all right, let me just leave him alone but reassure her.
Speaker 3:Let her know, babe, we're still everything is everything, but I just I need a minute y'all different than me, my lady.
Speaker 2:Come in the house. You know how girls want to talk about, like work drama. Yeah, this is a wild part they don't stop for like 30 maybe give me all the tea. I'm ready, I'm ready you got the snack.
Speaker 3:I don't got snacks ready, man I thought I'll go.
Speaker 2:I'll go to shop, put this durang on, get my snacks together, and boy, I love that I'm sitting like it's Love Island in this thing that's so funny.
Speaker 3:I love that. I love that for you. That's why you keep the wage ready.
Speaker 2:What you mean Mandatory.
Speaker 3:But I will say everybody's different right that works for you, but what works for you might each have the opportunity to create whatever relationship you want, but it's about the communication. It's about setting proper expectations and it's also about making sure your partner feels seen, heard, loved, reassured. Whatever it is, You're ultimately teaching your person how to show up for you. Okay, in whatever way that might be, so are you married? I was married, yeah, and whatever way that might be, so are you married.
Speaker 4:I was married, yeah, and I'm assuming that he turned out to be the red flags from the beginning.
Speaker 3:No, that's the crazy part. There were no red flags. He was gay. He was gay. She said he turned out to be. He was not who I thought he was. He put on a really good show.
Speaker 4:So he was gay no.
Speaker 2:Oh, he was not gay. Ain't no way you deal with her for that long to be gay.
Speaker 4:Come on now. Come on now. Look at her. Come on now. She fell in love with the abs. Did he have abs?
Speaker 3:They went away.
Speaker 1:Head of the expectations.
Speaker 3:You want a woman to look a certain way, but you don't look a certain way. No, no, don't do my dog like that.
Speaker 2:Because, as a man who's dated Hispanic women over the years, no matter what you do, these extra pounds are coming on. Yeah, the way y'all cook and the way y'all cater, oh, yeah, nah, you're going to catch this extra 10 or 15.
Speaker 4:Wait, do you cook I?
Speaker 3:mean all Puerto Ricans cook, I do cook and I don't. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So what I'm hearing is we deserve a plate at some point.
Speaker 3:Oh, absolutely that's right.
Speaker 2:I'm a rojo con pollo type dude I'm easy to please, that's Cuban bro. Is it?
Speaker 4:I don't know, I mean. No, I can eat, but you do white rice, not yellow rice.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I do arroz con gandoles. That too, need that yeah. I do arroz con gandules, that too Need that Oof and my rice is good, yeah, so I got you Is it like what y'all call it Chinito rice or whatever Chinito rice?
Speaker 2:Yeah, was it like the sticky rice, chinese rice? Is that what you're calling it? No, no, what y'all call it.
Speaker 4:It's sticky rice, what y'? She doesn't really cook Cuban food, but my mom she cooked, and it's just arroz con pollo, that's it.
Speaker 2:I'm talking about just the rice. Where it's sticky, it's not sticky.
Speaker 3:It's just yellow. Yeah, I don't know what kind of Hispanics you were dating A Dominican one, oh yo, that's Hispaniola, man.
Speaker 2:That's not even that's just different.
Speaker 4:I don't even count that as Caribbean. In my opinion, because the islands split in half.
Speaker 2:Half of me.
Speaker 4:You have Haiti on one side, dr on the other, if I mix them around, and it's French.
Speaker 1:Creole.
Speaker 4:Creole, yeah, which means now it's influenced by also the French, where you have Cuba. That is just like strictly Spain and. Puerto Rico, that's also strictly Spain, I ain't going to hold you.
Speaker 2:I did like DR because I've been to Puerto Rico.
Speaker 4:You also said that part of it was from Africa. Yeah, I heard you outside on the phone. Yeah, I was like what the fuck is?
Speaker 3:he talking about? Yeah. So, if you do your research on Puerto Ricans, they're a blend of three Okay, african Taino, which are Indians and Spaniards.
Speaker 1:Tainos.
Speaker 3:Tainos are Indians. Was that a tribe? That was a tribe. That's the native tribe.
Speaker 4:That's the native tribe.
Speaker 2:Do your research. So Puerto Ricans are a blend of those three. Hey guess what Cubans? Y'all got some nigga in there too.
Speaker 4:Congrats Only from the waist up.
Speaker 3:You know I'm done. Slave trade, so let me ask you do you not think that women are easy to to understand? To understand yeah, it's about asking the right question.
Speaker 2:It depends it depends okay I think to to your point. I think some women easy to get because they only want ABC and D. That's true. But other women you can ask all day of what you want. But what they say and what they mean are often two completely different things.
Speaker 3:Okay, and that's where you evaluate in the talking stage and then you make the decision. Do I want to go and pursue this indecisiveness?
Speaker 1:or who.
Speaker 4:Who? Then you cut it off, yeah how many stages are there?
Speaker 1:I mean talking is dating it's the same thing talking, courtship dating, that's all one.
Speaker 3:No, it's not yes, that's really it is. To me it's not. It should be. Why, why not that's?
Speaker 2:talking, talking is a casual thing where I'm just getting to know you.
Speaker 4:Yeah, there you go. That's the way I see. Yeah, that's what I'm saying the talking phase.
Speaker 2:I'm just getting to know you. The courting phase is now-.
Speaker 3:We're going on dates.
Speaker 2:We're going on no, we're You're opening the door.
Speaker 3:We're opening the door, we're going in there.
Speaker 2:Now we're having deeper conversations with intention, that's courting.
Speaker 4:Now dating. There's a the. Isn't that in the talking stage where you're dating multiple people?
Speaker 3:yeah, I could do that I mean, but how can you not date multiple people? You said dating equates to exclusivity, absolutely not. Why does it okay, I think.
Speaker 4:I think the word he's looking for is more the stage where you say okay, you're my girlfriend, I'm your boyfriend, we're not yeah, that's a commitment, that's not.
Speaker 3:That's nowhere to get when he says talking. That's nowhere to get when he says talking.
Speaker 4:He talks about dating whoever the fuck he wants.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like, let's say, me and you were talking, we'd go to Rue Chris right now and I promise by the time I drop you I'm hitting the bar with some other one that dating in my opinion, but this is how, guys think about it. That's how guys view it.
Speaker 4:It's like, oh yeah, you talking to that chick.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, I took her out here. The minute I refer to you as my old lady that's it, and then when you want to start pursuing just one, you start the courtship and then you start treating her nicer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because you want to treat her like Like yes, I'm locked in.
Speaker 4:I'm locked in. You're just given one or two more time than you are. The other three Absolutely.
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 4:Girls do this shit all the time.
Speaker 2:Okay, see, during the talking phase. That's why I'm taking a budget. This is the let me put it in football terms, because that's my favorite way to do it. The talking phase is like open tryouts. Okay, I'm bringing in free agents from wherever. They're all getting the same amount of field time, right?
Speaker 3:Sure, okay, valid Then when?
Speaker 2:we get to the courtship phase. We've already made some roster cuts.
Speaker 3:We done, cut at least 10. Okay, okay, we're down to maybe like five.
Speaker 2:Okay, we're giving a real good evaluation of these five individuals. By the time that's over, I get to the dating phase where I've picked my number one superstar.
Speaker 4:And that's where I'm gonna build everything around. What happens if the number one doesn't want to go further?
Speaker 3:Say what If the number one doesn't want to go further? What does she don't want you like. You want her.
Speaker 4:Yeah, do you go now to the number two and you're like guess I gotta settle with you my backup.
Speaker 2:Hey, I don't know, I ain't been there yet. My dating stage is solid.
Speaker 3:So in the talking stage you've got your final five right. Are you taking them to dinner and doing things?
Speaker 1:with them? See, that's the question. It's not final though.
Speaker 4:Yeah, no, no, I'm talking about the talking, because you can rotate new people in and out.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, you got rosters right you clear out the rosters Mandatory, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:That's during preseason Preseason I'm trying to win a Super Bowl. I need one star to get this Super Bowl with. It's like when Tom Brady came to the Bucs I got you.
Speaker 3:I knew you were thinking that I knew you were thinking that I'm still trying to figure out the differences for the two. But there's a difference.
Speaker 2:For men it's a difference. For men, it's a difference.
Speaker 3:Because I think for a woman, a woman considers dating. Yeah, I went to dinner with this guy, I went to lunch with this guy. You're dating.
Speaker 2:So when do you put the exclusivity in it? When do you cut your hose off? Let's talk about it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because you're not just dating someone when you're asked to be their girl. I want to make you my girl. I want to be exclusive. It's only us have you ever said no, only us.
Speaker 4:Have you ever said no?
Speaker 3:I mean I probably wouldn't talk to somebody for very long. They wouldn't have an opportunity to ask me if I wasn't interested. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, look them dead in the face.
Speaker 3:But I mean obviously I've had to tell people I'm just not really feeling it, Sorry.
Speaker 4:And then they went home and killed themselves or something.
Speaker 2:Stop, don't tell me that's a true story, okay, okay, I don't think that part is a fully true story, but I want to touch on how it affects guys when you pour your time into somebody and you thinking like, oh, this is going somewhere, but you just like number five on it. You're the nice dinner guy on her roster.
Speaker 3:Are you reading the room? Are you reading the room? Read the room. What action or reciprocacy is she giving you?
Speaker 2:The fact that she's going on dates. She's going on dates with me anytime. I ask Okay, but what are the dates like she's spending quality?
Speaker 3:Does she seem engaged? Is she staring into your eyes?
Speaker 1:Is she touching your hand?
Speaker 3:Thank, you, I mean some women, not me, some women, not me. Yes, they will show up for a free dinner, they'll show up for whatever but that's but the signs are there if she's into you or not into you. It's going to show in her behavior and her actions, because either things are progressing and she is locked in and tuned into you and you can tell like dang, like this date's going really well like she's giving me all this eye contact.
Speaker 3:She's touching my hand Like she's laughing. Like you know, she just did it to me.
Speaker 2:I'm giving you an example. I almost just gave her my whole bank card. Take this I don't care what bill you need to pay.
Speaker 4:You already bought her dinner. I'm already one date in. Let's go Ready.
Speaker 2:You crack me up, dating with intention, and I found out what she wanted.
Speaker 4:Oh my, God Is this, see, and this is why.
Speaker 3:This was the plan the entire time. Men take information right and then they want to use it. But consistency tells all. That's why it's important, ladies. Make sure that not only is he doing things once or twice, is he consistent.
Speaker 2:I can feed you all day, every day I can feed you all day, every day, easily. It's more than just feeding somebody. Feed you and your soul. I didn't say which one I was talking about and emotionally, there it is ready, ready for that one you have.
Speaker 4:it sounds like done this before String somebody along. No.
Speaker 3:I'm not that type.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, so you've never done that. If I don't like somebody, no.
Speaker 3:I'll tell somebody Because I just one, I don't want to waste my time. Two, I don't want you texting me and calling me and I'm not really feeling it, even when you were younger, I mean maybe as a teenager. No, no, because if I didn't like you, I didn't want you calling me. That was it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah I feel like every woman doesn't realize
Speaker 2:their strength. That's what I'm saying. I feel like girls don't know when they're doing it. Yeah.
Speaker 4:It's one of them, things that like.
Speaker 2:You ever send like a smile, emoji or a heart in other side going whoo she like me she like me.
Speaker 4:Look at this, look what she sent me.
Speaker 3:That's where intentionality comes in, because it is absolutely possible for a woman to send the wrong signals. But I think that goes both ways.
Speaker 4:We're pretty much like I wouldn't say stupid to that. I mean, men can be hard-eyed, this hard-eyed that Love bombing. Oh my gosh, I wouldn't say stupid to that.
Speaker 3:I mean, men can be hard-eyed this, hard-eyed that Love bombing. Oh my gosh, Love bombing is a thing who?
Speaker 2:hurt you.
Speaker 4:She got divorced remember.
Speaker 2:Oh, that guy Got it. Good call. Have guys love bombed you in the past.
Speaker 3:I don't even know what that means Love bombing.
Speaker 4:I know.
Speaker 3:I just found out what love bombing was last year. I was love bombing, but it's like when you meet somebody and they're like, oh my gosh, I want to take you here and I want to do this and you know all these things, and they're like planning your whole life together, right and it's like dude, I just met you five minutes ago, like what do you mean? So did you fall for it? No, absolutely not, oh well I mean you have to like, pay attention, what is?
Speaker 3:some women might think that, oh my gosh girl, he's so into me and he's playing all these things. I don't he's taking me to Turks and Caicos tomorrow. Girl, like, slow it down, right.
Speaker 4:Literally I couldn't be a girl, literally.
Speaker 2:I'm taking a free trip.
Speaker 4:I mean you probably have had guys say yo, let's go on a vacation right now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I have, and I consider that love bombing guy and within five minutes of meeting him. We're hanging out, we're having a good time, whatever, because we're with a bunch of group of people and he's like I'm going to Vegas next month, do you want to come?
Speaker 4:That's like the last place anybody wants to go, I know right.
Speaker 3:Sound kind of fun though. That's when the red flags start looking like six flags.
Speaker 4:So did you go to Vegas though?
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:But I don't know, because I feel like that's some shit I would do, Like if we're having a good conversation and I have the trip, I'm already coming and we're having a good time. In this setting, In my mind I'm like oh, Vegas is already fun. Vegas is already fun Like yo. Do you want to come?
Speaker 4:It's a good time.
Speaker 1:I mean.
Speaker 4:That's more of like a casual yo, you want to go, that's it.
Speaker 3:I I'm not opposed Okay, Look, I would have potentially went but Was he like?
Speaker 4:I'm paying for your ticket.
Speaker 2:Of course, but what? What was the but? What was the?
Speaker 4:but what?
Speaker 3:was the but. Yeah, he turned out to be crazy. You got to ask questions. Oh yeah and I figured that out in three days. I'm like no Cheers, I knew it, I saw it.
Speaker 4:I saw it. Damn, you're dodging it. She's dodged two questions already. That's the most in Max we trust Really.
Speaker 2:Yes, she's making history right here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because most people may answer man, I was going to say Got to leave a little mystery.
Speaker 2:Now was it crazy to her? Would it be problematic down the line, or is it crazy to where it was? Would it be problematic down the line or is it crazy? I'm like this is just annoying.
Speaker 3:No crazy, as in, it would be problematic.
Speaker 3:Okay, that's a valid and it's like you have to pay attention to people who they are, who they're showing you they are, and believe them. When somebody shows you who they are, believe them. And I think so often we want to romanticize certain things or see the potential in somebody that we are ignoring what is right in front of us. And you can't, so I just. I'm at a point in my life I don't have time to waste and if I get a whiff of something being toxic and just not healthy, no, I'm good, I'm straight blocked bye. How old old are you? If you don't mind me asking, 21 again.
Speaker 3:How old do you think I am?
Speaker 2:21 again is the correct answer one so if I was so four oh, four.
Speaker 4:Okay, so that's three minus plus me look, I'm doing math, damn how do I?
Speaker 2:look, sir you're trying to figure it out that ain't gonna do like that. Ain't got to do what she asked You're 39.
Speaker 3:I'm not 38. I just turned 38 on Wednesday. There you go.
Speaker 4:You don't look 38, so congratulations. I told you the correct answer is 21 again.
Speaker 2:Yeah 21, again, that's the correct answer.
Speaker 3:I always ask people how how old?
Speaker 2:she is. What's wrong with you? Did your?
Speaker 4:mother teach you anything.
Speaker 2:You see how, you see how I look. That's what you said how old are you Well.
Speaker 4:That's why I stopped giving a fuck about questions a long time ago. Yeah, and.
Speaker 3:I'm yeah.
Speaker 4:But yeah, I'm 38.
Speaker 3:38 young. I'll be an empty nester before I'm 40. So I've Holy shit.
Speaker 2:I know no but you got to understand. This is why I say it, because when I met Ashley, he was maybe 10.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, probably younger than that. Probably younger than that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was little little and her daughter was even smaller at the time. Yeah, no max.
Speaker 3:I mean we met before 2010.
Speaker 2:We met probably 2010.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so 15, he was like five or.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I was 17.
Speaker 4:But you said, you graduated early right. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was pregnant with him when I started my first year in college. That's oh shit, you went to college at 17?.
Speaker 2:I started college at 17. That's an accomplishment Fuck that Hell yeah.
Speaker 3:Listen, I went to college. I was working two jobs. Listen, I've always been a grinder, like my mom always taught me from when I was young. It's probably my gift and my curse giving all the tea away, but my mom always taught me you never depend on nobody for nothing. So I've just always had that mentality.
Speaker 3:Like you make it happen and I think that there's levels to that, because I think a lot of women have been exposed to, you know, single moms and you know having that need to kind of fill a void right because you have to do it for yourself, and I think a lot of women can develop masculine energy from that.
Speaker 3:And it's kind of hard to detach from that and find that softness when you know you find yourself in a relationship with a man, because if you continue to want to have that dominance, ultimately it's going to push men away, right. So you've got to learn how to kind of balance that. Because I can be a boss at work all day, you know, I run my team. I've got a lot of responsibility at my plate and I love it and I thrive in it. But when I am with the right person I 100% can be submissive and soft. But men have to create that safe space and security for women to be able to be soft.
Speaker 4:Why don't you start your own HR company?
Speaker 3:My own HR company, so I work for or a staffing agency, because that's essentially what you do, right. It is, but it's not. So I work directly for the company, so we're a staffing agency. You have to find clients to partner with you to allow you to fill positions that they have. I work for a billion dollar company that I only work for them?
Speaker 4:Can you mention the company or no?
Speaker 3:No, I don't want to. Okay, because people are weird. Yeah, all right, I don't want to know stalkers.
Speaker 2:Hey, look, they'll be showing up at the job. Hey, where that pretty caramel girl?
Speaker 3:at we're not doing that. People are weird I mean it's cool.
Speaker 2:You know, I know a guy who works in security that could get it taken care of for you.
Speaker 3:Yeah man, I know a guy I don't want, no problems you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 4:Well, I mean shit. Yeah, that's cool. How many people are on your team.
Speaker 3:So I have eight, so the company. So I'll give you a little history employees total, and at the time we had 10 branches.
Speaker 1:I was the only person.
Speaker 3:It's way more so. I was the only person that worked in the department. I was there for probably two years before I got my first person to kind of help me and then my boss promoted me to the manager of the department two years Now. I have eight people under me. Currently we have 29 branches throughout the country. We have about 2,500 plus people. We're getting ready to open a new branch in Denver, colorado, so we're going to be increasing more headcount and I run and I oversee all of that and I love it and I'm so thankful.
Speaker 4:Do you make a commission from the recruitment? No, my manager just takes care of me.
Speaker 3:So I work directly for one of the owners of the company. He's so good to me and I'm so thankful.
Speaker 4:I say he's always the dad I never had, so, okay, okay.
Speaker 3:So this is why she says she has that masculine attitude, because she never had a dad I didn't, and and a lot of women, you know, have experienced that right, growing up without a father figure in the house, and it's natural to again need to fill that void. But it's about doing the work. You know doing therapy. I think people don't. It's about doing the work you know doing therapy. I think people don't talk enough about doing therapy. And you know getting your mental health in a good place.
Speaker 4:Are you talking about talking to a?
Speaker 3:psychiatrist, a therapist.
Speaker 1:Psychiatrist and therapy are two different things, Well it's just.
Speaker 3:It's about having a professional who's gone to school help you navigate through traumas and different life experiences, because we all have trauma and I really think that you know we need to normalize mental health and going to therapy and working on your shit, like period, like so yeah, so, although I had to show up for myself in a lot of ways do you want to share what the first experience in therapy was?
Speaker 4:Were you apprehensive when they were asking you questions? Did you not want to answer?
Speaker 3:Oh man, I've been going to therapy for years. So if you go to therapy and you're not being truthful, you're not going to get the help that you really need. Right, I am very honest, and probably to a fault, because sometimes I find myself taking responsibility for things that aren't mine, because I feel that it's so important to own your shit and to take responsibility. Sometimes I take responsibility for things that aren't mine and then I have to work through that. I'm like actually, yeah, that's your fault, that's your fault, that's not me. I think I'm going to do it.
Speaker 2:Nope, I still have things that I can work on, but through that I'm like actually, yeah, that's your fault, that's not me. I think I'm going to do with me.
Speaker 3:Nope, I still have things that I can work on, but not that, so you know. But it's. It's about surrounding yourself with good people, right, starting with your friend group, but also having professionals and people that can help grow. You Like, we never stop learning, we never stop growing, and I think it's important to prioritize that because when you're able to do the work, you're able to overcome some of those coping mechanisms that you've developed throughout your life to deal with and fill those voids or those traumas, like not having a dad or growing up in a rough environment or maybe a toxic home, right? So, yeah, so I'm very proud of the progress that I've made throughout my life, but still lots of work to do and I'm excited. I'm excited for this new season and this new chapter, this new season.
Speaker 2:I like that we're going to dive into what's in store for your new season on part three of the Maxi Chalk. Like comment, subscribe.
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Speaker 2:And we're back. For what is this round three? This round three? Yeah, there's got to be round three of Max Lee Trusher, the lovely Miss Ashley King.
Speaker 3:I'm a little worried because he said he's going to throw some curveballs.
Speaker 2:This is the part of the show where we hit this hard left, uh-oh. Okay, now, since we were talking relationships, okay, I need you to rate these nicknames that a man could call you like pet nicknames, on a scale of one to ten Princess.
Speaker 1:Five.
Speaker 2:Monkey.
Speaker 1:A one it's on the list.
Speaker 2:It's on the list. It's on the list. It's on the.
Speaker 3:Twitter list. I was suspicious, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Did you have a monkey? What'd?
Speaker 3:you got A one.
Speaker 2:Bae.
Speaker 3:It's common Like seven. I guess that's a common one.
Speaker 2:Love.
Speaker 3:That's more like casual, maybe six.
Speaker 2:Like your full name, my full name. I call you like my government name. Like even middle name, not the middle name, like he'd call you Ashley. He'd call you by your name.
Speaker 3:That's a two. Why are you calling me my full name?
Speaker 2:I mean.
Speaker 3:Supposed to be a love name.
Speaker 4:He might I do that shit to my wife when I'm pissed at her.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying. He's in trouble.
Speaker 2:What if he calls you mama?
Speaker 3:I like that Big mama One out of ten what you got. Let's say seven.
Speaker 2:Let me just call you baby.
Speaker 3:I like baby.
Speaker 2:What about mommy, mommy?
Speaker 1:I love mommy hey mommy, all Spanish I'll say eight.
Speaker 2:Eight or nine for mommy Me Amor. Oh that's cute.
Speaker 3:I say like an eight or nine Because you're Hispanic what do you call your corazon? Hey daddy. All right, the next one. I'm not a fan of Pumpkin.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Pumpkin. Oh hey, daddy, all right, the next one. I'm not a fan of pumpkin. No, wait, wait, wait. What? Just where it gets left stink, no, like I never, got that like why do people call? Stink what does that mean? That's like, I don't like it's like a common, like it's a younger generation thing. Yeah, no, hey absolutely not.
Speaker 3:I'm like what the fuck? I don't stink. Why you call me stink?
Speaker 4:No, Damn, maybe if you're being called that you do.
Speaker 2:I mean right, what if he calls you like honey?
Speaker 3:Honey's cute. What about darling?
Speaker 2:It's a little weird, it's a little old in my book. Yeah, it's a little old in my book.
Speaker 3:Great, Hi darling. What about?
Speaker 2:babe.
Speaker 3:Babe, that's normal, that's typical, right? What's your?
Speaker 2:favorite thing to be called then.
Speaker 3:My favorite thing to be called. I think my favorite nickname I was ever called was Honey Bunny. I was like, oh, that's cute, Honey Bunny. I'm like oh, that's fun, but I like mami, mi amor.
Speaker 2:Mi corazoncito.
Speaker 3:Look at you trying to be Puerto Rican.
Speaker 2:I'm Dominican on the weekends baby it's. Saturday Okay.
Speaker 1:Uh-oh, here's where it goes.
Speaker 4:Left guys Shout out the Twitter handle of the people asking it.
Speaker 2:I already moved on to that. I already left that one. I'm gone. How did you find out? Your friend wasn't really your friend, oh gosh.
Speaker 3:How do you find out your friend wasn't really your friend?
Speaker 4:Are you saying that they tried to be more?
Speaker 3:Are you talking about a girl that's not really your friend, or a guy? A guy when he tried to shoot his shot. Like be more direct right. Like are you guys watching Love Island right now? No did you see Nick in Olandria? Are you watching Love Island? Yes, yeah listen. I watch it with my daughters and, locked in, like I'm like they're like it's time. I'm like, come on, girls, let's go, cause I got, I have my daughter and then I have a bonus baby.
Speaker 2:So yeah, hmm, Bonus babies Gotta love that yeah.
Speaker 3:Just cause they didn't work out with him Doesn't mean you know, so what happened after he shot a shot by the? Way. Uh, we were no longer friends. But how did he shoot it?
Speaker 1:Because I feel like I don't think the friend zone is a thing it has to be it has to be.
Speaker 2:Friend zone's not a thing. Why is it not?
Speaker 3:a thing. Like if you see somebody as a friend and it's platonic if it's platonic.
Speaker 2:It's different with her bro.
Speaker 4:It's different.
Speaker 2:It's just platonic.
Speaker 3:Like it's never anything romantic, Like I don't one, I don't have a lot of guy friends, but this one guy friend in particular. Like we were cool, we used to work together, you know. Yeah, you know I mean it was just like very casual and then we had hung out a few times Like, just you know, super chill, like never anything.
Speaker 2:What were the settings of the hangout?
Speaker 3:Yeah, multiple people Like out places like multiple people like out, maybe at a bar.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, like pool you know With coworkers.
Speaker 3:I'm assuming yeah, like our mutual friends like playing pool and stuff like that, okay, valid. Would you invite him or it?
Speaker 1:was no, he invited me, but it was more of like hey, you know we're going here.
Speaker 3:I'm like, oh yeah, you know I can come out for a pool for a little bit, that's cool. And then he walked me in my car and tried to kiss me. I'm like.
Speaker 4:That's not even a.
Speaker 3:What are you doing? What are we doing?
Speaker 4:That's a shooting of fucking. That's sexual assault. That's sexual assault. I watch Law and Order SVU. I know it qualifies.
Speaker 2:He's throwing a Hail Mary right there. That's not even a subtle. You know what I?
Speaker 4:mean. Well, let me ask a question here Were you touching him? Were you making direct eye contact? No, I mean All the shit that you were doing to Max a second ago.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 4:So why would he get that feeling that he could?
Speaker 3:I think men sometimes confuse friendliness with flirting.
Speaker 1:I'm a very friendly person Very friendly.
Speaker 2:I think it goes both ways, though, because the phrase, what's the phrase? They always say Sweetheart, I'm not flirting, but I'm going to just raise the gentleman.
Speaker 3:Right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:It's definitely a two-way street on that.
Speaker 4:So exactly describe the situation. So he's walking to you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he walked me to my car. I'm like about to get in.
Speaker 2:Did you hold your hand to the car?
Speaker 3:No, no, I gave him a hug, like you know, just friendly hug, bye. And then, as I go to pull away, I'm like, uh-uh, what are you doing?
Speaker 2:Like was it a church hug?
Speaker 4:Yeah, was it a up or did you go?
Speaker 3:down, down.
Speaker 2:Oh, is that bad I'm short, yeah, I'm five. Two. No, no, I'm like see, if you want to keep it at a friend level, you gotta get a church hug from the side like thanks bud okay, no, like his legs open and you were directly oh yeah, yeah, no, no, no it was a side hug, but down it was like this so he, so he's, so he's standing here, I'm here and I'm like bye oh yeah, just like it was front front.
Speaker 3:No side Okay so.
Speaker 2:But I was down From like his shoulder yeah.
Speaker 3:And I'm short, so it's like I'm like in his chest. You know what I mean. So I'm like bye, so then what happened after. He got your head on his heart. So what are you doing? Like no?
Speaker 4:We're friends. Did he quit his job after that? Fuck, no man, no.
Speaker 2:If he's a real one, he finds out what co-worker is closest to her and dates her and treats her like a friend. That's how that's supposed to go. Oh, you said no, don't worry. If you block my shot, don't be surprised when I shoot at your friend.
Speaker 1:Okay, somebody going to get this love. Yeah, oh, man.
Speaker 2:But I still don't think.
Speaker 4:The friend zone's a real thing? Apparently it is.
Speaker 3:I mean here's why, if it's, platonic and there's just not A romantic interest. You know, I'm not saying it's impossible for One party To have a romantic interest or hope Right that it can progress To something more, but if it's not mutual.
Speaker 4:So, with this said individual, who was clearly in the friend zone, that Max does not think exists. How could he have overcame? That friend zone there just?
Speaker 3:wasn't a romantic attraction, so I don't think he could have there was nothing that he couldn't. He just wasn't my type. I didn't say he was ugly, he just wasn't my type.
Speaker 2:He didn't have a six pack. He was a little too light in the complexion or he was white Don, a little too light in the complexion, or he was white. Don't speak Spanish.
Speaker 4:Last name, not King. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:My man was out here looking like Eminem from 8 Mile before he had a comeback. You know what I'm saying, but I still okay, so hear me out. This is why I think the friend zone is where he should want to be. Watch, let me land, let me land, watch. I know where he's about to go.
Speaker 3:Exactly.
Speaker 2:So if you're in the friend zone.
Speaker 3:He's getting the blueprint.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. She's coming to you with all the, all, the he. I can't stand when he does this, this, this, this and this. I wish I could find a man that did X, y, z and B and he's like yeah, I'm taking notes. No one ever gets me flowers just because.
Speaker 3:Fraudulent. That's fraud. That's fraud. You have to be your authentic self. If you are getting the blueprint and you're like I'm going to be this person.
Speaker 4:But don't you want a guy that wants to be the guy that you want?
Speaker 3:Yes, but can he be consistent with being that person? Or is he just doing enough to get you in.
Speaker 4:Because if that's not genuinely who you are, how can you be consistent Anybody?
Speaker 3:who's going to change their?
Speaker 2:entire personality for a woman wants that woman Personality. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:There's no way If I'm changing.
Speaker 4:Okay, that's extreme, You're changing your personality and then she's like oh, he's trying too hard, but I want this guy that doesn't do shit.
Speaker 2:Oh man.
Speaker 4:There we go. That's it, I love he's in our apartment car because he knows where I'm at.
Speaker 2:I don't want the nice guy.
Speaker 4:They never want the nice guy, but they list out all the traits of the nice guy and then go with the douchey, but then douchey make douche juice over here and then they complain about it. Whoa, whoa. What are you trying to do? Well, you told me everything you wanted and now I'm that guy.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay, but you said something that was huge, which was if they change your entire personality. But women are trying to change men all the time. They shouldn't have to. No.
Speaker 1:Yes, bro, as far as how you show up.
Speaker 4:You've never tried to change your man's personality. Personality and actions are two different things Okay, call it actions, then Whatever.
Speaker 3:It's how you show up for somebody.
Speaker 4:Whatever works for you.
Speaker 3:I mean think of personality. It's somebody. Whatever works for you.
Speaker 4:I mean think of personalities like you want me to change who I am as a person. I mean, we literally started off by the red flags and she said if you're going out and we're dating, that's a red flag right there what's a red flag? You're gonna try to change him right somebody watches no no no, that's it.
Speaker 3:I'm glad you said that. That's my point. If you, you are who.
Speaker 1:Okay, right, so if you, enjoy doing those things.
Speaker 3:Don't change that for anybody. Be who you are authentically and find somebody who is okay with that. I'm just saying that doesn't work for me See.
Speaker 2:that's where the confusion is Ready. That's what women respond is, because that's how they I want somebody who doesn't want to be outside.
Speaker 3:That's fine somebody who doesn't want to be outside, genuinely, by their own accord, they choose not to go outside.
Speaker 2:Even at that. Watch this as men, your job is to be a protector provider. And what's the phrase that everybody live by? Happy wife, happy life, right, I don't live by that Generally. Generally.
Speaker 4:We've been married seven years.
Speaker 3:I already told her I was like I'm not've been married seven years, so she already told her.
Speaker 4:I was like I'm not changing my life for you and I don't expect you to change your life. And how long were you guys together?
Speaker 3:before you got married, five months, oh dang, so okay.
Speaker 2:My man knew. You know when you know. Okay, you know when you know. Exactly, I like your style.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I love that for, but it works. Everybody's different right. That works for you guys.
Speaker 4:That might not work for some of you, and that's okay, but I mean we're not going out, we're not hanging out. I mean we're both-.
Speaker 3:So you'd be inside. We're working.
Speaker 2:Okay, I like that, that's great, but y'all kind of aligned, naturally, I'm assuming.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Naturally aligned right. Yes, Is it hypothetical? Is it hypothetical? I don't know, Is it?
Speaker 3:set up. Look here, look here.
Speaker 2:Everybody who's been in that seat.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they get the same questions. They get the same questions. Oh, she felt special, Max I don't know, it's okay.
Speaker 3:Max said there's no such thing as a friend zone. I said we've been friends all these years.
Speaker 2:There's no, such thing Doesn't count.
Speaker 2:But if I know you want this, that. And the third, and I'm looking for something long-term with you. If your red flags are, don't be outside, don't be dealing with a lot of women X, y and Z. If I look at that as something I can sacrifice at the opportunity of having you long-term, then that's a small price to pay for that. That's a big price to pay. How, how Ready I'll take myself. For example, I work outside, so when I'm free time I don't want to be outside like that. I don't really want to be outside.
Speaker 4:I think if you're working it's different. That's what.
Speaker 2:I'm saying but regardless, for someone like me who works outside, if I'm dating her, she don't have to worry about it Because I work outside. I don't want to be outside on my free time. I'm trying to do some peaceful stuff and personally I want to be out of the country. I'll do vacations, baby, let's go Turks and Caicos in four hours. What are we doing? Sounds good, it is good. I promise Got the photos to prove it. But I'm saying, like, if that's something the man's willing to sacrifice, why not let him have that opportunity, if that's something he's willing to sacrifice?
Speaker 3:If it's genuine and that's not something that they're going to miss out on, I don't see any harm with that. I think the real question becomes are you sacrificing something that you really want to do and are you going to have an itch to do it again? To the point now I'm lying, now I'm sneaking, now I'm doing it behind your back because I know you don't like for me to do these things. So now I can't be open and honest and tell you I'm doing these things, but I really want to do these things, things, but I really want to do these things.
Speaker 4:I got some married friends that do that.
Speaker 3:Oh, trust me, I know some.
Speaker 2:Don't say it so mad. It was so bitter. Who are?
Speaker 4:you throwing under the table right now.
Speaker 3:I know some, anyway. So what else were you going to say, moving on?
Speaker 2:This is why I say about it have you seen you? Have you seen you? Have you met you? I have seen you. Have you met you? I have. You are a sensational individual, a phenomenal mother, gorgeous by every standard. Thank you, fuck outside. If I'm the average Joe, fuck outside. It ain't going to get no better than this. Facts.
Speaker 3:Energy, energy, and that's what I'm talking about. But if a man doesn't want to make those sacrifices because it's more important for him to hang on to I don't know, feeling like they still got it, or feeling single.
Speaker 2:The word you were looking for was thoughts, thoughts yeah, there's thoughts.
Speaker 3:The streets for the streets.
Speaker 2:Yes, so it sounds like you were dating court gestures and not kings I wouldn't make that plural, but go ahead she married somebody with the last name King. See what I did there. See what I did there.
Speaker 1:So, the last name should have been Jester no.
Speaker 2:No, no, no.
Speaker 3:No, they were actually a really good guy, that man blessed a beautiful child.
Speaker 4:I'm assuming you knew her husband.
Speaker 3:No, no, but he's a really good guy, it just wasn't I know the type of men she deal with, so I always assume anybody she deal with. With the thorough process she put niggas through he got to be yeah but everybody has one that slips through you know what I mean. I got bamboozled. Hey look, everybody lied on an application.
Speaker 2:You know Right, everybody lied on at least one. You know what I mean. So it's okay, they got you, and it's okay. Yeah, you got something to lose, but you still thriving, that's right. That's all that matters. And will you know what I'm saying? Going to let that affect you moving forward?
Speaker 3:Oh, absolutely not. But now you have to do that further sniff test, right? Why? To evaluate Like are you really who you are?
Speaker 4:Because you already knew what the mistake was. The first time. You're not going to replicate it, you're going to learn and grow from it yeah, learn and grow 100%. It's not about failing, it's about failing forward.
Speaker 2:Or you could just send them here, we'll interview them right here. Yes, we can, we can interview them right here. You bring whatever you do, we'll put them right there.
Speaker 1:Put them right there.
Speaker 3:We'll grill them right here, no pressure, no controversy. Do you want me to keep them or scare them off? What are we doing?
Speaker 2:Only the strong survive.
Speaker 3:It's like training camp.
Speaker 2:Them conditioning days suck, but only the strong make the cut. You know what I mean If you're going to run because of some questions and my questions today haven't been very mild.
Speaker 4:But you still have some more right. Yes, come on. Come on, dog. Oh Lord, these aren't even hard-hitting questions, right?
Speaker 3:now, that's what I'm saying. That's because he loves me.
Speaker 4:I told him don't get cursed out, yeah, but you can give her at least one not softball question. Come on, Max.
Speaker 3:He wants some entertainment. Yeah, I mean, this is good. This is like a dating podcast is what it sounds like you know.
Speaker 4:You know, giving the guys, you know the insight.
Speaker 1:Dating relationships the insight.
Speaker 3:What you got, Max.
Speaker 2:Okay, this one better be a little bit Listen he comes at me crazy.
Speaker 4:I'm blaming you, that's fine. I'm a producer, you can Let me get a left turn.
Speaker 3:He's like I kind of want to ask, but I don't I have two.
Speaker 2:My favorite question we usually ask on the podcast have you ever had anybody famous in your DMs?
Speaker 3:Famous? Yeah, there's been a few.
Speaker 2:If so, you could have mentioned who they are, or at least their profession. Let's just go with their profession A rapper. It was 50 Cent, I don't care.
Speaker 3:I actually served him at Mama Juana when I was doing bottle service over there. And I was very professional, but he did call himself, grabbing me by my thigh. I was like, sir, excuse me, and I kept it professional and I brought some of the other girls who I knew were about that life. I was like, hey, I need you and I need you Entertain him because I'm not.
Speaker 2:So y'all have fun. They ended up at a ditty party to my thigh. No, entertain him, because I'm not y'all have fun.
Speaker 3:Yeah, cuz I was getting a bottle from the table and he grabbed me. I was like are we surprised, though? It's insane it's insane I mean the video of cassie and the abuse that she endured.
Speaker 4:He wasn't on trial for that. He wasn't.
Speaker 3:But it just goes to show, like what reason does she have to lie? What does she have to gain? But why?
Speaker 1:do you think he paid up so?
Speaker 4:quick because he was trying to keep her quiet but they didn't prove any of the charges they were charging him with they were just throwing, throwing shit at the wall, hoping something stuck.
Speaker 2:It was like stories, stories and everything that they were charging him with. They were just throwing shit at the wall hoping something stuck.
Speaker 4:It was like stories, stories stories and everything that they were doing was actually legal.
Speaker 3:That's just, I think, another example of an entitled black man getting out of jail Because you got money Right Max.
Speaker 2:And status Thanks Alright what's the other one? Max, I was trying to see what all the charges were.
Speaker 4:It was racketeering, sex trafficking.
Speaker 2:Kidnapping, Kidnapping extortion.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I can see how they wouldn't be able to prove the sex trafficking.
Speaker 2:And they didn't prove any of it, none of that, so you're okay.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so it was just literally consenting adults.
Speaker 1:That's what it was.
Speaker 3:He's got a good one. What? You got oh Lord.
Speaker 2:What is the wildest fetish you've?
Speaker 4:ever come across, there we go. Now we're getting somewhere. Came across. He's not talking about yours, right? Okay?
Speaker 3:You see, I edited the question just to make it halfway. I got kids that are old enough to watch this. I'm not answering that. You know what my daughter told me she's like Mom because we're watching Love Island together. She's like Mom, just so you know. You're not allowed to go on that show. I was like, okay, I wouldn't want to go on that show, but okay, so, sir, sit Go ahead, go ahead Go ahead.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right, come on, we got another one, I got you.
Speaker 3:I got you, I'll tell you off camera.
Speaker 4:Well, that's not doing it for the views no.
Speaker 2:Okay, I got kids. Yeah, I know that's fine. That's fine, I'm with you. What is one relationship? If you could get a do-over, who would it be?
Speaker 3:One relationship.
Speaker 1:One relationship do-over.
Speaker 4:None. How about this? How about if you could be in a relationship with a celebrity?
Speaker 3:oh, michael b jordan, where you at holy?
Speaker 2:hey, michael b jordan, I need you on the show. This is the second time your name got dropped, bro you didn't even hesitate.
Speaker 4:That's at the back of your mind.
Speaker 3:No, he's a celebrity crush, but his religious views don't align with mine, so I couldn't really be in a relationship with him I don't know. I think he's like that whole Scientology no.
Speaker 1:No, like Illuminati, yeah, that's it Like demonic type, but one time for the one time. He's fine, though he's fine One time for the one time you could do it One time for the do-over.
Speaker 3:No, they're in the past, Okay now what about Tiger Woods?
Speaker 4:Or is he? Too, Asian Uh-uh no.
Speaker 2:She's more worried that he's going to be Asian from the waist down than black from the waist up. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Morris Chestnut.
Speaker 2:Darkness.
Speaker 3:Boris Kojo Kind of like him.
Speaker 2:Oh dark. Morris Chestnut, Boris Kojo, we're a host people, oh dog.
Speaker 3:Beautiful black dog. Man Morris is Boris, not so much. He's light-skinned.
Speaker 4:Any of them that are not black.
Speaker 2:No no.
Speaker 3:Just all black. That's it. Go ahead, follow me. I'm not good with names. I mean Magic Mike.
Speaker 1:He could get it Channing, tatum Channing.
Speaker 3:Tatum.
Speaker 2:Channing Tatum Second time he's been referenced on this show too.
Speaker 4:And he's from Clearwater, yeah, is he.
Speaker 2:Hey, how you doing. He doesn't live there anymore, we can get him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can come back.
Speaker 3:We can try to get him. You can come visit.
Speaker 2:Think about it, think about it we got to get Chan and. Tatum, we're going to try to Big facts. We're going to tag you in this and Michael B. Jordan, we're going to tag you in this too Hilarious.
Speaker 1:Leave you in the seat.
Speaker 3:What else you got, I'll pay for the flight.
Speaker 4:Well, these are audience questions, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah when is my is it, my screen, what?
Speaker 3:you got audience.
Speaker 2:It's in my screenshots, Hold please.
Speaker 4:I feel like you're not. You're not asking every question, that you should.
Speaker 2:No, no, you're holding back. I have to with her. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Got to Because he loves me. Yeah, apparently I do, fun fact.
Speaker 1:He's like this is not fun.
Speaker 3:Platonically.
Speaker 2:We've been there All right. Way back when, way back when you're talking. 15 years ago, I had the biggest crush on Ashley. I had the hugest crush on Ashley.
Speaker 4:And then you were friend zoned, bro, huh.
Speaker 3:Was I. I was always in a relationship.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it didn't matter, Friend zoned no.
Speaker 4:I'm not, that is absolutely true. How you don't believe it but she is stating it clear as day, that's okay he said, a friend zone doesn't exist.
Speaker 2:It doesn't exist. And this is their first time being single in Damn. That's a long ass.
Speaker 4:Sigh, that's what I'm saying. 20 years, no, well, you said your son is 20.
Speaker 3:Don't ask, that's complicated 20? Mm-mm. Oh, don't ask, don't ask. That's complicated.
Speaker 4:Mm-mm, that's the Facebook status. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:She is the queen of it's complicated. Oh, I'm just kidding, but I used to have the biggest crush on her. I would always go to her. Even if I wanted to go somewhere else, I'd take her to my friends. Hey, guys, guys.
Speaker 4:Where was that at? I mean, can we say Prana Kennedy? She was at Prana when I first got there. Asia.
Speaker 2:And that was perfect, because I used to always go to Prana and then I remember the day she wasn't there. We came on a Saturday, we went right to her usual spot there's some new chick. I was like she said what can I get you? But no, because we had gone to Prana so often like we knew all the bartenders. So if you're a new face, if you don't know me, stay over there.
Speaker 4:How long ago was this?
Speaker 2:This is.
Speaker 4:Years ago, years ago, but you also had like 2010,. Right, yeah, like 2011, 2012.
Speaker 2:And if I didn't know her, that's okay. I could have walked to the other side of the bar and knew that bartender.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know what? Yeah, max definitely knew a lot of people.
Speaker 2:Still do. I can go to almost anywhere, but then so we used to go to Prana all the time, and there used to be a point where it was like a thing, we knew where we were going. Guys, we should just do. We have to go to Prana today. Let's just try, kennedy, let's just try it for a day. God knew that's where she was.
Speaker 3:So I'd make my friends came to see me. I'm like hey shots. So you would call Max a regular. I mean, he was a friend, he was more than a regular, but I mean he would come out. I was just, I was smiling, so you met him there at Prana.
Speaker 4:I did, and then y'all started hanging out outside of the clubs Working out going with Coach Baines.
Speaker 2:Then you became friends.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but hold tight, we'll be right back, part four of asha king's episode of them.
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Speaker 2:We're back. Part four, four or five Part four, four or five. Whatever we're here, we're asking another again. Now, ma'am, allegedly, allegedly. I got some alleged scenarios for you Okay, okay. We've been talking about dating in here, so let's just give you an example. You come home, okay you?
Speaker 2:So let's just give you an example you come home. Okay, you come home. Let's say me and you we're dating. See how I did that we're dating. You come home Long day at work. I am sitting on the game in the living room, my phone is sitting face up and there's some lady friends, her repeatedly texting suspicious what is your reaction to it and how do you respond?
Speaker 4:let me see your god damn phone what's this?
Speaker 2:what's what?
Speaker 3:who is this bitch? Which one this?
Speaker 2:that one right there? Your competition, oh, you wanna die. Which one? This? That one right there, mm-hmm, which one?
Speaker 3:The competition, oh shit, oh, you wanna die, you wanna die.
Speaker 2:He got a death wish he got a death wish, but I mean, what's it matter? Who am I with?
Speaker 3:Who's in there? Really, you don't play that line. Who's here? Who do I come home to every night?
Speaker 4:I'm just saying who's here I, who's that line, who's here who do I come home to every night.
Speaker 3:I'm just saying who's here. I mean, that's valid, that's a valid question.
Speaker 2:Who's on my life insurance policy? Who has my last name? Yeah, oh, that sounded personal. It sounds like out of experience.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that sounds like you've been there Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly.
Speaker 2:But I'm just saying so, like it's on lock. Go ahead, handle your business. Hello, why are you texting me?
Speaker 1:Calling her Call that bitch. Oh yeah, Call that bitch.
Speaker 3:Oh, we about to have a conversation. Hey, look, look, because we about to get to the bottom of it, I'm going to do some investigating and some interviewing, hey look.
Speaker 2:What has really been going on, hey look.
Speaker 3:Because I'm him to know that I need off next Thursday. Okay, well, you make sure to submit that via email.
Speaker 2:next time I'll be calling it. Okay. Now, if a girl messages, is there a timeframe where you're more suspicious than others?
Speaker 3:Absolutely. I mean, the later it gets, the more inappropriate I feel it is.
Speaker 2:But if it's me and you, I work nightlife. If a bartender's messaging, I don't like that.
Speaker 3:Red flag. Red flag. Red flag.
Speaker 2:But if she's messaging about, hey, can I do this as a special tonight?
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:Ain't none of your team members. It comes with the territory.
Speaker 3:Yeah, which is why personal preference comes into play. I wouldn't want a man who works the nightlife. I wouldn't want a club owner or a promoter or something like that Say the word I quit this job today.
Speaker 4:Energy, I quit this business she just said, she doesn't want you to change your personality. It's not my personality.
Speaker 3:Personality and behaviors are two different things, so now it's going back and forth, though no behaviors and personalities, because what if?
Speaker 4:you are getting text messages from coworkers that are males, and how would you react then?
Speaker 2:You can't compete with me, never concerned.
Speaker 3:I love it. Confidence, I love it hey listen, she ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 2:She's not going nowhere.
Speaker 3:It'll be all right, it's okay, that's a good answer Ready.
Speaker 2:Protect, provide. Doing all of the above, she's coming home to Protect, provide and foot reps, because apparently she likes feet.
Speaker 3:Allegedly I have pretty feet, allegedly Do you Do, I Do.
Speaker 2:I. All I'm saying is have you seen them? Look, I know some guys. I have pretty hands and feet. I'm just is have you seen them? Look, I know some guys. I have pretty hands and feet. I'm just saying, I know guys who will pay a pretty penny for pictures.
Speaker 3:I know, listen. I thought about making an OnlyFans just for my feet, but now I'm like people are weird. I could go real left real fast pour honey on your feet.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Like I know, rub some, squish a banana weirdo but they're gonna pay $5,000 for it.
Speaker 1:I'm not selling my soul.
Speaker 3:I'm not selling my soul.
Speaker 2:I ain't gonna hold you. Someone asked me at work the other day if someone offered you a blank check for you to submit a tape of yours. A tape what?
Speaker 4:do you mean? A tape that Ray.
Speaker 2:J type shit. I said 10 mil, 10 mil, I'm releasing this 10 mil forever.
Speaker 3:Your daughter would see it, your future employers question here is your face on it?
Speaker 2:no, absolutely not I would. I would do a POV video there you go oh so.
Speaker 3:I mean oh no harm, no foul, no face, no case.
Speaker 4:No face, no case, and I have no tattoos, yeah, no identifying markers. No identifying markers, I'm money.
Speaker 2:Call it Running my money, thank you. Here you go my coins.
Speaker 3:I'm just throwing some now Listen, don't be getting the people that look. See, I set myself up. Hey, look now when we drop that clip right here, that's the one.
Speaker 4:Tag me there.
Speaker 2:What about the mark on your left butt cheek. It's going to be great. It's going to be great.
Speaker 1:I'm going to mess you up. It's going to be great. I can't wait for this one.
Speaker 2:What's great about it is I already. I already get questions about my female guests. So what's with you and I guys?
Speaker 3:I'm going to mess you up, you better not what listen. That's what they say. Be careful, don't ask me. I'm a liar. That's how they clip and edit. Don't ask me.
Speaker 2:I'm a liar like from her social media. How do you know, Ashley? Don't do that to yourself, brother. Don't do it to yourself because you don't want to know. It was never nothing. That's not what I'm going to tell her. That's not the story.
Speaker 3:I'm going to give her. Oh Lord, I'm off, I'm signing off.
Speaker 2:She was with me at Ruth Chris.
Speaker 3:Eating that sweet potato casserole.
Speaker 1:He's going to go that's her favorite.
Speaker 2:I'm like yeah right, don't even worry about it. And we got the dessert too, and got dessert, stayed there and had drinks all night Hilarious See it's okay, though I'm just kidding, I would never do that like that. Got the tomahawk with the bone.
Speaker 4:She's definitely been there.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Now by yourself or on a date Always with somebody. Why would you go along?
Speaker 4:That's not fun. Then you got to pay for it when somebody else can.
Speaker 3:That's true. That's a good point. That's a good point, I mean Ruth.
Speaker 4:So remember earlier when you said there's a lot of chicks out there that just you know. They play in Monday through Friday with all the guys they're dating and really they're dating and really they're just dating them for the money and maybe they got an entire meal plan.
Speaker 3:But it's a dating meal plan, yeah, but you risk being seen with that person. It's like, do you have a reputation of old or not? Because if you're just willing to go with anybody to dinner just to get a free meal, no because if they, ever ask you and you're out with them.
Speaker 4:You just go oh no, that's a business associate.
Speaker 1:What is?
Speaker 4:it though.
Speaker 1:They'll never, know Allegedly.
Speaker 4:Allegedly, you just got to read the room.
Speaker 3:That's right and make sure that you defer.
Speaker 2:That's right. I plead the fifth. Who was that you with? Huh, my sister, what? No, I'm not going to lie. My Huh, my sister, what? No, I'm not going to lie. My favorite thing is huh what. That's crazy. I can't believe you even thought that All right.
Speaker 3:So if he ever says that, now y'all know he lying, that's right.
Speaker 2:I'm not lying, I'm simply omitting answers. That's crazy.
Speaker 4:Well, I mean the omission of truth technically is not a lie. It's not, especially in the eyes of the court.
Speaker 3:It's still deceitful.
Speaker 4:It is deceitful. Why is it deceitful and manipulative?
Speaker 3:Why is it deceitful?
Speaker 4:So that's still a question of integrity.
Speaker 3:That's a question of integrity.
Speaker 4:I choose not to answer that question. Well, you're intentionally withholding information. I'm intentionally choosing not to hurt your feelings with this answer? Well, you's not true? Maybe you're not asking the right questions.
Speaker 2:There it is, there it is hey what'd you do for lunch?
Speaker 4:Oh, we just went out to a restaurant and ate. Okay, well, who was there?
Speaker 2:Okay now you're asking the right questions. First off.
Speaker 3:First off, ashley King was there, you got to let the questions lead.
Speaker 2:Ashley King was there. She had the tomahawk steak, the sweet potato casserole, you know what I mean. Two glasses of wine, wine.
Speaker 3:Eh, they would know you were lying.
Speaker 2:What would you have? I'm a martini.
Speaker 3:Excuse me. A special martini no.
Speaker 2:I just had that for the first time.
Speaker 3:I want a lemon drop, or I want some margarita, I want something with tequila.
Speaker 2:You know you can do an especial martini with Don Repo right.
Speaker 3:You can, but I'm not an. I don't know.
Speaker 2:It just doesn't taste good, the espresso martini I had was decent.
Speaker 3:Now this Chick-fil-A lemonade that I had with this Tito's. It's hitting that thing, that thing, that thing. Hey, look you see how she's now-.
Speaker 4:It's still the same one too.
Speaker 2:Hey look, look, it is, it is it's beating me now.
Speaker 3:But you know what? It was that shot, get a little, you know, feeling too good, because then that's how Max will you know.
Speaker 4:Was it the Don or was it the Casa?
Speaker 2:For what?
Speaker 4:For the shot.
Speaker 2:The Don yeah.
Speaker 4:That was Don Julio 1942.
Speaker 3:Ooh, only the best for you. Look, trying to get some brownie points.
Speaker 2:Yes, and there's three more on the board. Thank you.
Speaker 3:But, what?
Speaker 4:okay, what's your ideal date, ideal ideal? Run it down intentional intentional.
Speaker 3:Intentional describe the person as well, so it okay now you're welcome I would say ideal date with a partner, somebody that I've been seeing. It's not new, because if I, if I'm, just meeting you, let's go first date. If it's a first date, I'm driving my car. I'm meeting you there, because if I don't like you, I'm out. So I would rather give you like a first, like an ideal date with somebody that I'm like a partner with, right Because then we can like go out. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:All, so I would love like dinner with a view preferably beach go ahead you were saying remember about the blueprint. I would say dinner with a view, water, water you probably got a restaurant in mind yeah, spinner's was nice, don Cesar, I've actually never been. But, good food, good view, good conversation. What's the conversation about? Everything? Life Like, let's get deep.
Speaker 2:Do you believe in aliens, yes or no? Let's talk about it.
Speaker 3:No, not aliens, Like who hurts you.
Speaker 2:You want to know right now? Yeah, I think she's asking no, no, no.
Speaker 4:I thought I was ready, I was going to go. I want to get deep.
Speaker 3:I want to know what your traumas are, what your hurts are, what drives you, what motivates you, what fills your cup. I want to know who a person is to be before.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you've been interviewing too many people at this fucking.
Speaker 2:HR firm. Bro, I had answers for everything. She just said You're making it a job interview right now.
Speaker 3:No, like it's just, it's getting to know somebody, but on a deeper level.
Speaker 4:So let's ask these questions to Max. I'm ready. Let's see what Max says. Okay, max, talk to me now.
Speaker 3:What trauma do you have? You're coming on a date and asking that question? Hell no, he wants me to ask him questions, ain't?
Speaker 2:never scared. I'm ready. So one of the traumas I had to get over was me being adopted. You were adopted. Yeah, I know, my mom adopted me at three months so I knew early on I was adopted, but it left a sense of Abandonment Abandonment so I had a big abandonment issues. So like when I, when I bring people into that circle and they try to leave, it hits harder for me. Yeah, so I had to get over that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel that and another trauma I had was my mom, who adopted me. She got me as a single parent and then got married when I was five and it's a dress, not even adjustment. The man she married. We didn't have a real conversation until I was 13 oh, wow I played sports from six to adulthood. He's never seen a game oh wow, like that's hurtful.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean yeah, so I had to get over that resentment and whatnot with?
Speaker 2:it. Next question I'm ready this is a therapy session right now.
Speaker 3:Seriously, therapy, therapy's a real thing, like people need that I've done my therapy, so I won't do these no, I definitely resonate with that abandonment because I grew up without my dad. I grew up I literally like I could have walked past him in the grocery store.
Speaker 2:Never would have known. Never would have known, nope, that's crazy yeah.
Speaker 3:So to have that thought in the back of your mind like would I have made the same decisions, you know? Would my life be the same? You know how he'd been around? And then I met him for the first time when I was 26.
Speaker 2:And he came around to try to kick it to my mom again and then dipped out again, so yeah, so he tried to spin the block on your mama, he tried to spin the block, took advantage.
Speaker 3:And then dipped out Trash.
Speaker 2:Rob Markman. He reminds me of that nigga from Fresh Prince of Bel-Air when Will Smith's dad come around. Rob Markman, I remember that.
Speaker 1:Rob Markman. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about, where it's real cool.
Speaker 2:And then he's like yeah, it's like-.
Speaker 4:Rob Markman. But Uncle Phil was there to be like it's okay, Rob Markman.
Speaker 2:Yeah, boy, you know what's crazy To this day. I remember the first time I ever saw that I hadn't done therapy yet and I remember Triggered Boy. I cried and I didn't understand why. And now that I went through it I felt what that was like him not being around, getting that hope that oh yeah, we're building on it somewhere for a little time lost, and then you're gone again Like dang.
Speaker 4:What age did you say that?
Speaker 2:That my stepdad came around. I was five I was five, so at five To 12. Five to 12 or 13.
Speaker 1:Didn't at all, not really.
Speaker 2:That's crazy, like little shit in passing in the house, but that's it Like what, like little like hey, how was your day? None of that. No, not really. Was he a white guy, black dude.
Speaker 3:Are they still together?
Speaker 2:No, hell. No, my mom knew better. But I give my mom credit. She stuck it out because she felt I needed a father figure. She stuck it out longer than she needed to, but once I told her look, I'm okay, I don't need him, I have other male role models. I have my uncle, I have my grandfather, I have guys that are true dads. Yeah, you know what I mean. So that's where I pull from. So I don't, you don't need him. Like you want to go go?
Speaker 1:We're good. Yeah, we don't need him yeah.
Speaker 3:And that's just where that it's tough man, you know what I mean, yeah, no that's a question that would not get asked on a date.
Speaker 1:There's no fucking way right.
Speaker 3:No, hell, no, that's way too much, too soon.
Speaker 4:No, but we're on a date where it's been quite some time Okay.
Speaker 3:A question would be and this would be early on in dating, right, right, what did you learn from your last relationship?
Speaker 2:I learned that that's always a question they want to ask. It's a good question, though that's always a question they want to ask.
Speaker 3:It's a good question, though what would your ex say about you?
Speaker 2:My most recent ex Sure Okay, she would probably give her that I needed to grow up. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:It's big that you can own that. I can own that, you know what I mean I needed.
Speaker 2:To grow up I was focused on the wrong things, especially with my daughter's mom. It was very much a. I was playing ball and I was so locked in on my success in that lane that I was neglecting home, like I was so so dialed into. Okay, I've got contract options, endorsement options. I'm doing well. I've made all league you know what I mean. Like I'm having success in this, I'm letting this go by the wayside, so I'm not having the conversations that need to be had.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I needed to grow up and be able to just put the big boy pants on and fight, to have those tough conversations.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I couldn't be in a dating game, I'd fucking be.
Speaker 3:Rusty dusty. It's been a little while.
Speaker 4:Rusty dusty. Be you'd be. Rusty dusty. It's been a little while rusty dusty, I'd be more like uh, listen, why? Why are you asking me these questions? Like you really want to know who I am? Yeah, but why don't we figure out what your traumas are?
Speaker 3:it goes both ways.
Speaker 2:You gotta give some to get some well, since we talked about my trauma, yeah, exactly well, I mean, I've shared some of mine too, like growing up without my dad.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:But my question here is what's your question? What do you feel you bring to the table as a woman?
Speaker 3:What A lot, what a great question right there. What don't I bring to the table? Better be some money, dog.
Speaker 4:No, no, no, I don't care.
Speaker 2:Like. I don't care about your financial status.
Speaker 3:You know what I see relationship as a team, oh 100%.
Speaker 4:So you know, when you have a team, you have a quarterback, you got a running back. The quarterback's going to make more money, the running back's going to make some money, Absolutely All right. So you don't want or a wide receiver, I mean you don't want an O-lineman.
Speaker 2:But I look at it as kind of similar. I look at it as if I'm the quarterback I have to carry us to the Super Bowl. It's my job. Sure, I have a complimentary piece that if I'm having a rough time, I can lean on.
Speaker 3:I can lean into the run game? Absolutely, I think it should go both ways. I don't think I think that one person should be able to pick up where somebody is weakened, like maybe this person is more structured with budgeting and this person is more structured with a different area. I just feel like you guys should complement each other, right, but you should both bring things to the table. But to answer your question, what do I bring to the table?
Speaker 1:I bring a lot to the table.
Speaker 2:Let me know no, no, no, don't talk to him. We here. I'm talking to the people. Tell them Let me know no, no, no, don't talk to him. We here. Let's go.
Speaker 4:I'm talking to the people, talk to the people.
Speaker 1:We don't care about them, neither this is her dating profile.
Speaker 4:Right now. She's going to be like. I'm going to post this clip.
Speaker 3:Listen for me to be at my age, to have done a lot of the work with overcoming trauma and challenges and different life experiences, to be successful in my career, to have a good head on my shoulders, to be loving and kind, a good cook and everything that you know on paper a man would want.
Speaker 2:But can you bring me peace?
Speaker 3:Absolutely. Can you make it safe?
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 3:Because if a man can make it safe, peace comes naturally right, he needs a gun yeah. As long as there's no random text messages coming in from you know.
Speaker 2:The phone's unlocked. Yeah, don't trigger me, the phone's always unlocked.
Speaker 3:Oh Wow, me and my wife share our phones, yeah. See, and that's how it should be. When you want to have secret, look, okay, first of all. When you're in a relationship, there is no privacy. Okay, you guys live together. Unless.
Speaker 2:I'm taking a shit, in which case, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3:Have all the privacy you need in that regard, absolutely.
Speaker 2:I agree here, you need some potpourri.
Speaker 3:You need some baby wipes, got you. I walk in there prepared, I bring my little to-do bag, but, in terms of phones, who you're hanging out with? What you're doing, it's not, oh, being, you know, controlling or being somebody's probation officer.
Speaker 1:No, it's genuine.
Speaker 3:It's genuine transparency, like who are you? Transparency is not just hey, I'm going to go to dinner with some of the guys. No, transparency is hey, I'm going to dinner, so-and-so and so-and-so is going to be there. Just wanted to let you know so that you don't have any surprises and you don't hear that from anybody else.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:Because if you're finding out information that your partner should be telling you, and sharing with you from somebody else that's a problem.
Speaker 4:What about sharing location?
Speaker 3:I'm all for it. Why not, like I could be in a ditch somewhere? Also share location you should share location. You should be able. Here's my phone I want to know where the fuck she's at so the bigger question is what reason, what valid reason would a man have for not wanting?
Speaker 4:to give you access. Let me tell you why. Give you access to his location. 100 percent yeah, or not having I don't believe in going through phones.
Speaker 3:Um, there shouldn't be a reason to go through phones, but there should definitely be access available if you know it's wild.
Speaker 4:Like me and her, we rarely pick up each other's phones. Now what?
Speaker 3:shut up. You just shared his location with me, max. What are you trying to pull?
Speaker 4:I'm telling you what are you doing?
Speaker 3:Max, what are you doing? It's a setup. It's a setup.
Speaker 2:I'm showing he's trying to get out of that phone zone. I'm unaware. I'm unaware. I'm just saying how easy of this application this is. It is a very easy application, it is that's an easy solution.
Speaker 3:Oh you need my location Boom. I have nothing to hide. Now if you have something to hide that is a problem Then you don't want to share.
Speaker 4:Why did you say you were at Penthouse? So my wife, I'm at Penthouse.
Speaker 3:I should know my partner's at Penthouse before he goes to Penthouse. I shouldn't have to hear from somebody.
Speaker 4:I'm not hitting her up and saying, yo, I'm going to a strip club, but I'll go to a strip club.
Speaker 2:I'm going to Penthouse and she'll see that I was at Penthouse and she'll be like yo, what?
Speaker 4:are you doing there? It's a work meeting, which most of the time it is, and I'll just be like, okay, it happened, and she doesn't care, because I mean, she's a white chick, she's got cool vibes, see, that's the difference.
Speaker 3:You know what?
Speaker 4:Let's talk about something your man goes to a strip club or you pissed Because I tell her I'm like yo dog. Are you going out once in a while, or are you a regular and they know you by name.
Speaker 3:Once a year. Okay, thank you. Once a year is acceptable.
Speaker 1:Who's going to?
Speaker 3:trip over that. But if they know you by name, that's a problem.
Speaker 4:Sir, what are your?
Speaker 3:priorities. Where are your priorities? That's where you want to be. That's where you want to be. That's where you choose to be. You have a beautiful woman at home, you have a family, but you choose to be at strip club.
Speaker 2:Well then the real question is who gives a better massage, you or Lexus over?
Speaker 3:there Ling Ling, no, ling Ling got me, she got me beat.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying if I'm going over there now, it's like a massage day, yeah, no.
Speaker 3:I actually have thought about taking classes some, yeah, and I got nails, so like you're like stabbing people by mistake, but oh sorry, nah, you can just go to youtube university and learn that shit.
Speaker 4:Right, they got a, they got a little.
Speaker 2:They got no, they got a little video where it's got markers like let's say, let's say you're doing like oh, I sold it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, where's that, like the little marker thing? Yeah, how to do it? Yeah, yeah, but then it's all about pressure, like what if you can't, you know, get it right enough?
Speaker 4:Well, you ask them for how much pressure they want. No, this isn't a professional massage, it's not.
Speaker 2:The fact that you're making the attempt means the world to me, the fact that you're trying. I don't care how good it is the fact that you're making the attempt. I'm cool Because even if you fuck this up, I can go to the massage spot tomorrow and get this little 90-minute deep tissue.
Speaker 4:Did you hear about that person that got a massage from their partner and died what? I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1:I was like what happened. No, no, they got paralyzed from the neck down.
Speaker 3:It's crazy.
Speaker 4:Yeah, because they were rubbing the spine, which you're never supposed to do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you do the muscle around it, but if you put too much pressure on the spine you'll snap your neck. Hey look, you know what's crazy? Remember that guy who died? His last name was King, right, not died. That's crazy. I see what you did there, that's crazy.
Speaker 3:Right, that was interesting, you got to watch him.
Speaker 4:Is he? I like to defer to my lawyer. She's over here talking about.
Speaker 1:I plead the fifth.
Speaker 4:I don't want to incriminate myself. You don't want to.
Speaker 2:I do have one more couple more questions left, but I have to wait for the next part of Imagine Trust. Like comment, subscribe, mash that notification button so all new content you can come see on Spotify, YouTube and Apple and all your podcast needs. That's right, got it and we're back for part five now and she just asked me a question I did.
Speaker 3:What races have you dated?
Speaker 4:so, uh, spanish panamanian, which is not really spanish, now is it? It's more central america.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that'd be like portuguese, almost right, I mean she, she spoke spanish so yeah, that's hispanic.
Speaker 4:Uh, puerto rican and white. I've never dated a black chick interesting.
Speaker 2:Well, you never will now right right you locked in.
Speaker 4:God willing, god will hilarious.
Speaker 3:Ruined it for yourself so I've dated mostly black men. You're welcome. I like my chocolate. Listen, I'm about to retire. They say, once you go black, you never go back. I'm about to explore it's trash over here. It's trash, it's not, it's moldy chocolate. Moldy chocolate, it's stale.
Speaker 2:It's not mine, Lola. You can't blame all black men because you didn't look at the expiration date.
Speaker 3:Listen. Well, it was definitely expired.
Speaker 2:I need you Trash. You weren't asking the right question.
Speaker 3:It was from the original Willy Wonka factory.
Speaker 1:It was not good anymore. You can't let no midget make you feel good.
Speaker 2:The Oompa Loompas you know what I'm saying Now, are there any requirements for you, like obviously chocolate, six pack, six foot, six pack, six foot.
Speaker 3:So I think yeah was he a shorty Cause.
Speaker 4:You said Oompa Loompa right.
Speaker 3:Oh no, I don't do short what short do you.
Speaker 2:I like to wear heels. Yeah, what is short? What short do you?
Speaker 3:I don't wanna offend anybody, so I don't wanna say his size.
Speaker 2:You ain't nothing but 5'4. Okay, well.
Speaker 3:Just cause I'm short, okay, so I'm 5'2. With heels, I like to wear five, six inch heels, so that puts me at what.
Speaker 2:Five seven.
Speaker 3:Five, seven, five eight. So anybody.
Speaker 2:Five, nine and up, you in there.
Speaker 4:Well, you don't want to be taller than somebody when you're wearing heels, right?
Speaker 3:I don't know, like I've always said, like minimum, like five ten, five eleven, maybe five nine, I don't know. I guess if the guy is that's a five Hippin.
Speaker 4:I was ready. Guys, how tall are you, max?
Speaker 2:5'9", 5'10", depending on the shoe, depending on the shoe, depending on the shoe, without the shoe, without the shoe. 5'9" 5'9".
Speaker 4:She did start with 5'10". Listen, I'm honest.
Speaker 3:Listen, I'm 5'2", so it's like you know. I mean the taller the better. It's nice, but whatever, but um.
Speaker 1:I think characters.
Speaker 4:Character is more than important.
Speaker 2:I think it just I don't know. It creates like a level of safety makes you feel Nice in their arms.
Speaker 4:six foot nigga, she knows why are you looking at me when you're saying that I'm not you, I guess?
Speaker 3:you're bleeding in the ass.
Speaker 1:No not you, bro, you're always good.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying my girl's like he's got to be six foot. He can protect me. No, that doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 4:Yo being over six foot is a struggle, man, that's an effective strike. That's it. That's an effective strike.
Speaker 1:I don't know whether to be impressed or concerned. I told you.
Speaker 2:Couldn't reach the face Allegedly we had an issue at an establishment I was doing security at in the Ybor region.
Speaker 3:Oh, it gets rough down there Not Prana.
Speaker 2:Not.
Speaker 4:Prana.
Speaker 2:I plead the fifth. A place that will not be named. A place that will not be named. But there was a gentleman, 6'4", 240-ish, somewhere in that ballpark. Pretty big, yeah, Pretty big dude. He wants to. He's trying to get rough and tough with the guys. The first security gentleman that approached him is 6'1". He knocked that nigga's slap out. He knocked the 6'1 dude, boom, put him to sleep. He was sleeping before he hit the floor and they Max, you gonna go. Yeah, Yep, I hit him square in the middle of his chest, folded him here and then brought an uppercut from the floor.
Speaker 3:Night night 6'5" Night night, night night 6'5" Night, night, night night. See you later See you later.
Speaker 4:You'll be all right. I think I'm 6'2 1⁄2".
Speaker 2:I would assume 6'3".
Speaker 3:You said 6'3", depending on what shoes he wears.
Speaker 2:Put your shoes on. I'm going to say 6'3".
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's true. Actually, I took a picture of it because I was at the doctor's office getting a physical and I I did.
Speaker 2:She make you turn your head and cough did she grab your balls?
Speaker 3:does your wife know? Did she at least warm?
Speaker 4:your hands up. She did not. They were cold oh no disrespect, it was, was she also said. So you check one of the boxes, do you make over six figures and are you six inches? Nope, I was like. Well, you should be able to answer two of those, that's hilarious.
Speaker 2:So does your man's financial. What does he have to hit in the financial bracket Six, three and a half?
Speaker 3:They've got to at least be where I'm at financially and I make good money, so, and I think that that's fair, like I want you to be at least equivalent, like I don't need you to make a million dollars a year how much do you need them to make six figures?
Speaker 4:minimum yeah, now what kind of six figures are we talking about? We're talking about like 150, we're talking about like 250?.
Speaker 2:Where does he need to be? Yeah, where does he need to be, or is it like as far as his six? We're in the ballgame.
Speaker 4:Because you did say as much as you were born, I think a comfortable six is good Like a two or like
Speaker 1:900?
Speaker 3:152.
Speaker 4:Yeah okay, so now we know her range and how much she makes 152. 152. Gotcha there, catch you bitch we're adding training.
Speaker 2:Okay, next, what do we got? I'm prepared.
Speaker 3:So I mean so what other questions? I mean, I think character is good. Okay, so if I had like my list of requirements?
Speaker 3:you know, wanting to be physically healthy, fit, challenge me. You know, like if you are in shape and that's important to you, I want you to be able to hold me accountable and let's go to the gym together. Let's have gym dates, let's make it a lifestyle. Let's meal prep together. Like to me, quality time is a big, big love language of mine. I know you said you want to ask about love languages. I can't with you, max, but quality time is super important, so it's like why not incorporate that in something that's going to benefit you? So, hey, let's do you know? A little cooking date, a little meal prep together, gym date together? Yeah, you got two kids. You date a little meal prep together, gym date together.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you got two kids. You can't make that meal prep for you.
Speaker 2:But that's not quality time with your person, that's true. Yeah, I know Now that your kids are meal prepping for you.
Speaker 4:You can spend actual quality time.
Speaker 3:You know what I have to work on? That my daughter knows how to cook, my son not so much how to cook my son not so much.
Speaker 2:That boy will starve before he cooks. But that's crazy because I know the women in my family. They really made sure I could cook.
Speaker 4:You could cook. Yeah, absolutely what you cooking dog.
Speaker 2:Don't start with no barbecue. The people want to know I ain't going to hold you On some soul food. I'm in there.
Speaker 3:My baked mac and cheese is on touch what do you put in your baked mac and cheese?
Speaker 2:I just depending on how I'm feeling. Who's eating it jalapenos, jalapenos, no, no, jalapenos I've done it with jalapeno, but for me I'm not you like if I'm he's trying to burn some booty holes.
Speaker 3:If it's for me, no jalapenos, but like is it an antioxidant?
Speaker 2:yeah, it is. They clean you out, that's for sure. For me, no jalapenos.
Speaker 1:Is it an antioxidant.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it is. It'll clean you out, that's for sure. For me.
Speaker 2:I know you got to put that egg white in there.
Speaker 4:Egg white, egg white, mm-hmm In some mac and cheese Mm-hmm, because it'll help everything.
Speaker 2:So we got eggs and macaroni, yeah.
Speaker 4:You're just using, not the egg butthole, bro, I mean shit, cheese carbs and motherfucking egg whites.
Speaker 3:And then, according to you, jalapeno. Well yeah.
Speaker 2:She really trying to blow assholes out.
Speaker 1:We can't eat your macaroni and cheese.
Speaker 2:She try to cut her eye. You know what? Turn that fireball. Turn that fireball, the other way.
Speaker 3:Point that ass, that way.
Speaker 1:Don't me tooting over here, that's hilarious like.
Speaker 2:But I know for me I like soul food's usually my, that's my bread and butter.
Speaker 4:What do you consider soul food cause?
Speaker 1:I really wanna know like for me, southern food, mac and cheese fried chicken colo greens colo greens shit like that, like that's.
Speaker 2:That's my wheelhouse, so country food Country. I hate that they call it soul food, because that's country food.
Speaker 4:It's good for the soul.
Speaker 3:It's like that comfort food.
Speaker 2:White people make it too, but that's where it came from. It's a southern slang for like. It's like you're feeding your soul, so that's where that term came from. Now, don't get me wrong I've dabbled in Italian, dabbled into Italian. That's Spanish. Are we talking?
Speaker 4:about spaghetti and meatballs.
Speaker 2:Nah.
Speaker 4:Are we talking about chicken parmesan?
Speaker 2:Nah, I got a With some fettuccine.
Speaker 3:Nah, what's that? Some lasagna Baked ziti. That vodka pasta sauce, vodka, la pasta, yeah, whatever, whatever that's called.
Speaker 2:We've got a little bit of vodka in the I don't think I've ever heard of that?
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's a thing, uh-huh. Yeah, my first hospitality job was in a yeah, it was decent.
Speaker 2:Oh okay, the vodka penny partnership.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah, so that's the one, did you just Google it?
Speaker 2:No, no, no, as soon as he said vodka penny.
Speaker 4:I knew exactly what it was. Yeah, that's the-.
Speaker 3:Now you know they say that's the healthiest diet that you can have my latest little.
Speaker 4:Let's try this how about give me one restaurant that both of y'all like you know, that is Mediterranean.
Speaker 1:I'll start with mine Acropolis, acropolis, acropolis yeah.
Speaker 3:I like Acropolis, acropolis. And then there's another one off Henderson that's Greek, though I guess you can classify it as Mediterranean cuisine. There's a small one off Henderson I like.
Speaker 2:Acropolis I can't remember what it's called, though it's got the little food. Where is?
Speaker 1:it at.
Speaker 2:Off Henderson. They'll maybe be in the Henderson area. Okay, you got to grab the food with the little pita bread looking thing oh man. Yeah, but that was different.
Speaker 3:Dang. I like to consider myself a foodie, but I don't know if I can really consider myself a foodie.
Speaker 1:What's up? I don't know what you trying to hook. Well, what's your favorite, that's your own.
Speaker 3:Listen. What's your favorite? Mediterranean? That's what I'm saying. I consider myself a foodie, but I don't have like a Mediterranean spot, so I'm like dang, like I thought anything on the Mediterranean Sea.
Speaker 4:It could even be nutrition.
Speaker 3:I don't know about a sit-down restaurant, though.
Speaker 2:What? There's an Indian spot over there by USF oh.
Speaker 4:I like Indian food that's not Mediterranean, but I'm saying I was just thinking about it.
Speaker 2:I think it's called Taj Mahal or something like that, but it's right over there by USF.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I like Indian food, Some butter chicken, and you were talking about blown assholes bro Indian food. Oh yeah, gotta clean out. Oh yeah, clean out everything, clean it all out.
Speaker 4:I'm with you, you may not be alive the next day.
Speaker 2:I mean shit, I'll go out and prepare to die for a good meal.
Speaker 4:I've been to one Indian restaurant and I'll never go back again. Why, bro, I'm not a fan of their curry? Is it called Tasty Mediterranean Grill? Is it this one Right there On Henderson and Gunn? Yes, that's it then. Yeah, that's the place, yep.
Speaker 1:That looks good, they got good reviews 4.7?
Speaker 4:Yeah 4.7?.
Speaker 1:All right, that's official.
Speaker 3:Interesting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thing is legit over there and it's not expensive.
Speaker 4:What other questions do you have? She goes straight to the question. I mean, we got 12 minutes.
Speaker 2:I got you, so what is the best and worst dating experience you've had?
Speaker 3:The best and worst. Oh, my goodness, I don't worry. I got a couple more questions. You ever been on a date?
Speaker 2:at.
Speaker 3:White.
Speaker 4:Castle.
Speaker 3:No, never done. A date at White Castle?
Speaker 4:No, never done a date at White Castle I don't know.
Speaker 3:I'm super simple. It doesn't take a lot.
Speaker 4:Coming from the chick that said Ruth Chris as the ideal.
Speaker 2:As the ideal, I'll take it. I didn't say it.
Speaker 3:No, I said ideal was beach with a view. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, dinner with a view.
Speaker 2:She said the first one, the first no I just said, one of my favorite restaurants is.
Speaker 3:That's how we got on that. That topic yeah, but I don't need bougie over the top.
Speaker 2:I mean, Don't play me, because I do Listen.
Speaker 3:I've had a first date at Subway Okay. Describe that describe that yeah well, so my ex-husband, our first um, our first date, like he was like did you want to go?
Speaker 2:no, wasn't in high school. How old are y'all? How old y'all for this first date where the first day has to be at a subway.
Speaker 3:Five dollar okay, this was. This was like five years ago, so this was very recent. Okay, it was during covid, though, so everything was like okay, okay, now that makes more sense.
Speaker 3:Okay, so it's during covid, um, and they were like oh, do you want to go? I can take you to lunch. And I was like, well, I only get an hour break so I can't really go anywhere too long or too fancy. So I was like we can just go to Subway. And that was one of the best dates that I had. It was just all about the conversation, though Conversation, you know. Do your morals align, do your ethics align? Do you ask them about his trauma? No, just more of the basic, like oh, so how many kids do you have?
Speaker 3:Do you want more kids? Do you not want more kids? I don't want any more kids. You know, just simple stuff. That's why I say it's like I'm super simple, I like nice things, but I'm okay having simple meaningful. Ice cream is cute.
Speaker 2:No no, no, you don't go. Cold stuff. What's wrong with cold stuff? Hear me out. It's commercial. So you know where you want to go. You want to go to Bo's Ice Cream over there off of Florida Avenue.
Speaker 3:It's live. I grew up off of it. I want to go to.
Speaker 2:Bo's. It's probably the best ice cream in Tampa, isn't that in Sulphur?
Speaker 3:Springs no, it's close but not really.
Speaker 1:It's Sly in.
Speaker 3:Florida.
Speaker 2:Sly in Florida.
Speaker 1:It's not quite Sulfur Springs, it's no, it's closer to Lori Park Zoo than it is to. Yeah, it's Sly Sulfur.
Speaker 3:Springs starts on Waters Avenue, so you got to go over and get down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're on the other side of that. Yeah, so you're telling me what if someone gave you Bo's ice cream? There's a park across the street.
Speaker 3:y'all could grab this ice cream With some good conversation, with good conversation.
Speaker 2:Sign me up and being like look here swinging on the swing while you're talking.
Speaker 3:Swing, swing swing. Listen, I'm all about conversation and just being deep, you know, like getting to know somebody, like what makes them tick.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay.
Speaker 4:Do you?
Speaker 3:ever try to push buttons Intentionally. No, I want to know what those triggers and those buttons are, but I wouldn't In a relationship. In a relationship, I wouldn't want to push buttons. Why would I want to push buttons? I want to know what those buttons are. You know what I mean, what I want to push buttons.
Speaker 2:I want to know what those buttons are. You know what I mean, so I don't push them. You never started like a small argument for funsies, no, why.
Speaker 3:How is that productive? Well, because it's fun, I mean banter, banter, not like a. Banter. Okay, banter is different. I like banter Like I don't want to like make somebody mad, but like banter.
Speaker 4:I like banter but like you know they don't like something and you just ask them a question and you know they're not going to like it. Yeah.
Speaker 3:No, I think that's different than banter that is banter, isn't it Banter I?
Speaker 2:think is just kind of going back and forth. Is that banter? I'm going to push a small button Like.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're going to do that, but pushing buttons and talking mess are two different things.
Speaker 2:I like to push one good button that might get you riled up a little bit. Yeah, there you go, so we can make up later Aggressively. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:That might not work out in your favor.
Speaker 4:Well, no, no, I think the idea is to get you passionate about something.
Speaker 2:There it is.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's what the idea is. It's not to like make you hate us. Yeah, no, I'm a very passionate person, so talk to me about a topic that I feel strongly about. Oh yeah, we can have Okay.
Speaker 4:Let's talk about HR. We'll both be asleep by the end of the podcast.
Speaker 3:You know what You'd be surprised. I've got some story for days and y'all would not be asleep. You'd be like what they did, what? Well, there it is, I got you covered Dramatic time as a bartender.
Speaker 2:I got one from your Prana days, but I don't know if you were there for it. Prana days.
Speaker 4:Well, if she wasn't there for it, what do you mean? Nah?
Speaker 3:it's Obviously.
Speaker 2:Man, there was a manager who may or may there may not have wanted oh my gosh there it is.
Speaker 4:Oh wait a second and ask yourself what are you?
Speaker 3:thinking, no, this is like from my early 20s. So I mean there was, I mean this was. It was really mortifying. Actually, I was in the office and we were like cashing out at the end of the night and, um, you know, people had been drinking and stuff. So we're like all there standing in line and I had a dress on and well, I hope so no, I mean, you can wear shorts, you can wear a bunch of different things.
Speaker 4:I hope you had someone in the manager's office she's a classy individual.
Speaker 3:She would never but I had this particular I had on a dress and I don't know what happened, but he was an asshole. He literally picked up my dress in front of everybody. I was like, are you kidding me? Rob Markman In front. Ke'an Thompson In front of everybody First of all, who do you think you are to touch somebody like that? And, second of all, you did that in front of everybody. It was humiliating. I ended up calling the owner of the club.
Speaker 3:I was like he lifted up my dress and you see my cheeks and my underwear.
Speaker 4:That motherfucker got fired right?
Speaker 3:I honestly don't know, because I quit after that. I called the owner and let him know what happened and I didn't go back. Are you serious?
Speaker 2:Only reason I found out was I came a couple weeks after the incident. I think I was out of town or something. I came back I was like where Ashley at and it was very, it was very. No one wanted to Awkward, no one wanted to talk about it, Because I called the owner.
Speaker 3:I was like listen, this and this and this happened. And he was like oh hell, no. And then they tried to fire me. The owner was like nah, you not fired, what'd you do? I ended up quitting. No, no, no, I mean, did you that night I was like what's that motherfucker? I didn't know what to do. I was young, early 20s.
Speaker 1:I was mortified.
Speaker 3:In a state of shock. I'm embarrassed Like I'm like around everybody. I'm just like did this just happen? Did somebody really have the audacity to violate me like that?
Speaker 4:Holy fucking shit dude.
Speaker 2:It was horrible.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I remember hearing about it. Horrible Yo, you should have cold cocked him in the jaw.
Speaker 3:Or or Should have done something. But it's like when you're young, you're 20s, and you're like it's a new thing to you. I was literally in a state of shock. I don't think there was anything else that could can really describe.
Speaker 2:Nobody tried to defend you, no because then okay, so when a checkout happens, it's usually just your manager and the bartenders, so it's not like it's guys in the room there was no male bartenders. No, oh the male bartenders don't I mean maybe, I don't really remember maybe but I don't think he was there during that time frame but either way, it was just, it was completely mortifying bro, this is wild to me.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I didn't realize shit like this happens in the workplace it's
Speaker 3:people like that, but you gotta think you're in nightlife they're feeling entitled. They're used to talking to and treating people any kind of way mainly women, right, Because that's mostly the people that are there, but they're in a professional environment, you're supposed to. It's supposed to be a professional environment. Clearly was not. Because, they're, you know, getting drunk and doing God knows what else and then acting that way. It was. Yeah, it was horrible. I'm in shock.
Speaker 4:I didn't realize that's how that shit went down.
Speaker 3:A lot of places. It's very sexist, it's very have no respect for you. The men in management in nightlife feel entitled. Women think that, oh my gosh, he's going to be like my ticket and I'm going to get all of these things, Sweetheart. He barely making money just because he's got a management title and he's working. He don't own the club. What did the owner say? He was completely appalled. Where was this at Kennedy?
Speaker 4:Prana, prana.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But as a bartender, to lighten the mood, because I feel for that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, because that's some heavy shit. Yeah, it was, and that's why I was mortified.
Speaker 3:I didn't want to go back. And I went back one night because they tried to fire me behind it, right? Because I don't remember if, like it was so many years ago, I don't remember if I threw a fit, I probably cursed them out. Because I mean, what would you do in that situation? Like I'm in state of shock, right?
Speaker 4:But Throat punching.
Speaker 3:I don't know, I didn't do that, but I'm sure I probably flipped out in some way, right. But they tried to fire me behind it. I remember them trying to fire me behind it. And then I called the owner, I told him what happened and he was very upset, he was very apologetic and he's like no, he's like you go back tomorrow. So I went back tomorrow just to prove a point, right, like y'all aren't gonna fire me because you don't have that power. I talked to the person who does and, yeah, I ended up leaving that night and I never went back did the manager get fired?
Speaker 3:no, no, he didn't get fired.
Speaker 4:He's probably still there, he's been gone, scumbag scumbag big time, chris, yeah if you want to drop his last name, I don't remember it, otherwise I would say it.
Speaker 2:But you're trash you're disgusting a bum damn who does that? But in closing, on a happier note, what do you hope that you're?
Speaker 4:there's technically four more minutes. Oh, is it yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, cool that works, because I need those four. What do you hope in your dating life happens, moving forward?
Speaker 3:I'm really in a season right now of just personal growth. I want to find a partner, and you know, and somebody to do life with Right, but I want it to be the right person. I'm super picky. I will my cutoff game strong.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:Like I have a zero tolerance Right, like I've talked to, and people try to shoot their shot all the time. Hello.
Speaker 4:Can you blame them Honestly?
Speaker 2:Have you seen you? Have you seen you? Have you heard you? Have you talked to you?
Speaker 3:I have, and that's why my cutoff game is strong, because I know what I bring to the table. I know I have my stuff together and I'm not settling for anything less than what I deserve and what I want, and I'm going to get it. So I'm looking for everything that I want and I'm coming for it.
Speaker 4:Do you notice that she starts whispering when she starts?
Speaker 3:It's horrible for the audio. Oh is it. It's so bad for the audio Because?
Speaker 4:every time I'm listening to it I'm like God damn it. She's whispering again.
Speaker 2:But I know me personally. I know what I want for you because I've known you since you was a baby.
Speaker 3:I deserve the world. I deserve a good man who's loyal, who's faithful, who isn't for the streets and I'm going to get it Maybe he has a kid of his own.
Speaker 4:A what A kid of his own, yeah.
Speaker 1:He either has his own kids or he don't want none.
Speaker 2:I mean granted, yeah, I mean, my kids are basically grown at this point, someone who wants to see you excel in all that you do.
Speaker 3:Absolutely. Somebody who's encouraging, somebody who's loving, somebody who's compassionate, somebody who's patient right, but somebody who can communicate.
Speaker 4:I hate that word. Patience.
Speaker 3:Patient Patience is key. It's so important. And the reason why it's so important is we're all people and nobody's perfect right. Everybody's going to make mistakes. Everybody's going to. We're all figuring out life right, and what better way to do life than having a partner who shows you grace but communicates what's important?
Speaker 2:Yeah, Well, I want to see you happy, because happy looks good on you.
Speaker 3:Thanks, Max.
Speaker 2:Happy, looks good on you.
Speaker 3:I am happy, but I'm looking to share that happiness with somebody.
Speaker 4:You should have said thanks, friend, but you see she didn't. I said thanks Max.
Speaker 1:That's right.
Speaker 3:Listen, don't be taking stuff out of context, call it what you want.
Speaker 2:Call it what you want.
Speaker 3:Thanks, friend. Hey there it is, hey little ready.
Speaker 2:Your partner should always be your best friend, and with that it's been another lovely episode of In Max we Trust. Like comment, subscribe, Mash that notification button. Follow Miss Ashley King on all your socials.