Strip Club Philosophy and Caribbean Truths with Claude

When singer-songwriter Claude steps into the studio, he brings with him not just his musical talent, but a philosophy on life forged through experiences both painful and profound. In this captivating conversation, Claude takes us through his musical origins—from his mother first noticing his talent as a child to his time in church choirs and his eventual development as an artist with a style that blends "old school vocals" with contemporary sensibilities.

The discussion weaves seamlessly between Claude's athletic past (where he once maintained an impressive .300 batting average and caught the attention of MLB scouts) and his present as a musician using his craft to process life's complexities. What emerges is a portrait of an artist who views music as both expression and therapy.

"It's only yours when you in it. Just your turn." This refrain from Claude's song becomes a centerpiece for a fascinating exploration of modern relationships, transactional dynamics, and emotional vulnerability. Claude doesn't shy away from hard truths, whether discussing the differences between communities in how they support their members or examining how his mental health influences his creative process.

As June marks Men's Mental Health Awareness Month, Claude's reflections on how music helps him "expel the feelings" becomes particularly resonant. His approach to songwriting—capturing specific emotions in shorter, more concentrated tracks—speaks to both his artistic instincts and his understanding of what modern listeners connect with.

Whether you're interested in the creative process, relationship dynamics, or cultural observations, Claude's insights offer something genuine and thought-provoking. This conversation stands as proof that the most compelling discussions happen when people speak their authentic truth.

Chapters

• 0:00 Meeting Singer-Songwriter Claude
• 6:45 Athletic Past and Baseball Stories
• 15:40 Family Heritage and 23andMe Results
• 32:20 Relationships and "Just Your Turn"
• 49:20 Mental Health and Music Creation
• 1:04:05 Black Community and Cultural Challenges

Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:00

All right, we are back for another episode of M Max We Trust. We got my dog Claude here with us today. Yes, sir, yes. Singer, songwriter Extraordinaire. Now, uh, Claude, you know I'm a fan of your music. I am a fan. That uh what got you into music. Uh honestly, uh a group of friends, man, back in 2012 when I came back from college. Okay. Florida Indian, by the way. When I came back from college, I was asked to be a part of a group, uh, relevant music group, and took off from there. You know, I've been in and out ever since. Kind of, you know, couldn't laying low. But you know, that's what got us started. That's what got us started. And if you had to give us as an artist, what would you compare your style to?

SPEAKER_01: 0:51

You heard it here, folks, first.

SPEAKER_00: 0:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 0:54

He compares it to, I mean, we heard it outside. Yeah, yeah, we heard it.

SPEAKER_00: 0:58

I I'll say, you know, like the old school type of vocals. So type of vocals, that's not like, you know, like a Jamie Foxx or something like that. But kind of a new school feel. I forgot the gentleman's name. Um but you know, kind of a faster uh sing rap kind of thing. Okay. At times, I can do both, you know. I used to do a lot of ballads, but I left that alone. So like kind of like an old Drake when he first came out. Yeah, so like there's less rap influence, more of that perfect balance. Correct, correct. Okay, okay, okay, correct.

SPEAKER_01: 1:31

It almost sounded a little bit like uh young jock back in the day with Hustle Monics.

SPEAKER_00: 1:35

Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can see that. I can see that. Yeah, I can see that. And see, that's why I don't really I don't really pinpoint a style for my music. Okay. Because to be honest, my mind is everywhere. I've been doing music all my life. So it could be a beat that inspires me to just do something. You know what I mean? I've done some techno music before. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm with you, I'm with you. You know, so I I I pride myself in the fact that I could possibly do any genre that people might listen to this, you know, popular today. Okay, okay. And you said you've been doing music all your life. When did it start? Start start? Start start. Oh man, you're talking about there's a video somewhere of a young Claude.

SPEAKER_01: 2:19

Can we find it?

SPEAKER_00: 2:21

I have no clue, but it's a video of me with uh an undershirt on, one shoe, and a high top fade that was slanted when I'm the little gumby joint. I know my face tell my age, but you know, yeah, high top fade that was slanted. Or me singing. So I've been doing this since I was a little kid. My mother heard me sing one time and she just pushed me toward it. Then I I know for y'all, a lot of young black men, you end up being in a church choir. Yeah. Yeah, there it is. Deep into a choir. Yeah. The minute you can sing a little bit, every ah, get in there, get in there. It's not just your local choir. It's not just your church. No, you can't do it. You gotta go to the regional. Oh, the regional joint, all that. I already know. Oh, that's not it. She threw me in uh uh all county chorus. I was in chorus and made it to all county chorus in elementary school. Okay. You know what I mean? So yeah. See, I was good until my voice changed, until I got my girl man voice, yeah, and it was dead. Well, it was dead after that. I mean, I could I had I had a good alto in me, and then my voice dropped. I mean, you could have still been a tenor bass? Absolutely not. Man, to this day, to this day, if I put on boys to men in the car, like I'm just doing that deep void. That's it, that's all I want.

unknown: 3:30

Girl.

SPEAKER_00: 3:30

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's me. That's me right there. That's my whole stilo. That little, that little girl, you know it's me. That's all I got. It's necessary, it's needed. That's all I got on me. For the quartet. That's you know what I mean? I give you a good harmony. I get as long as y'all got the low line. That's honestly what it's about, man. And if you think about it, if you took some artists, if you took their, I'm not even gonna give no examples, so don't ask. But if you took their vocals and their song away from that beat, you know what I mean? What would it really be? Trash. Right. But then you have some artists that become a part of the music. It's almost like their voice is an instrument. I attempt, you know what I'm saying, to do that kind of thing. And if if you're a bass, that's your instrument, man. That's what I'm at. Use it. You might not be in the falsetto like uh, you know. No, come on now. That ain't that ain't for me. I learned I learned many moons ago. I'm a man of many talents. Okay, you let that go. I let that one go. Okay. I can be an athlete, I can do that, I can do that for you. I can do all the athletic shit for you. Almost every sport, minus golf, because I don't have the patience for it. Well, pause. I'm a solid basketball player. I might be one of the better guards. I I'm not gonna give you a 50-point game. I'm gonna give you a hot 10-piece. Seeing that one. Ready, ready? I was a baseball player. All the assists you want. Okay. By six rebounds, three steals. That's what I'm good for. That's what I'm that's what I'm good for. Okay. Thinking like Chris Paul. That's me. I can find Oak Man all day, every day.

SPEAKER_01: 5:00

I feel like we need we need to say allegedly after that. Ain't no allegedly. Well, I mean, hey, there's no confirmation on video. You know what?

SPEAKER_00: 5:07

Ain't no film there. I guarantee you no one has talked about their basketball career like this. I was trash, bro. All right? What'd you be on? What did I play? Yeah, what? I don't even fucking remember.

unknown: 5:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 5:16

Bruh, no, seriously, I played on like the uh the off-season. You know how when they when they're the off-season when they're playing against, you know, maybe four teams. Yeah, it's like a few days. A little jamboree joint. Yeah, a little shit like that. You know what I'm saying? Not not nothing serious. You know what I'm saying? I think I had like five rebounds, two points. You're like six five. No, I'm not. I'm six two. I'm six one. I'm about six. I don't know which shoes I wear. Maybe slouch a little bit there now.

SPEAKER_01: 5:45

You were standing next to me. I felt like you were a little bit more. It's gotta be the hair.

SPEAKER_00: 5:49

It is give him actually.

SPEAKER_01: 5:52

He's like, I'm seven foot now.

SPEAKER_00: 5:55

I'll take it. Right? But it didn't help me in basketball. You know what I'm saying? I can I was a baseball player, man. Baseball and football, which I noticed you play football. I do. I played soccer. Oh, you just like to run. That's a lot of running all the time.

SPEAKER_01: 6:09

I'm uh I'm the Cuban guy, bro. And which I should be playing baseball, which actually Pope.

SPEAKER_00: 6:15

You play baseball. What position in baseball?

SPEAKER_01: 6:18

Uh actually, let me guess. Okay, go for it. I'm gonna say uh third baseman.

SPEAKER_00: 6:22

Yep, that was one of them.

SPEAKER_01: 6:24

And uh and short left field, so I mean you third left and shortstop.

SPEAKER_00: 6:30

Nope. Center field. Nope. Catcher. Nope. Pitcher? Yep.

SPEAKER_01: 6:35

So pitcher, third baseman, left field.

SPEAKER_00: 6:37

Left field, yep. All the guys with a little range to them. Left field, left field. I mean, you had an arm on you then. It was decent. I could get it there. Are you Haitian? No. No. No. Black and Indian to my knowledge. Indian? Yeah, black and Indian. Like Native American Indian? Yeah, my father is his color, man. My father is. But I'm saying Native American or dot Indian. Native American. Wait a second, you still didn't answer, though.

SPEAKER_01: 7:03

Native American Indian or dot headed Indian?

SPEAKER_00: 7:05

No, Native American. You don't try by chance? No, I don't. Oh, okay. We're gonna say seminal.

SPEAKER_01: 7:09

You parch seminal?

SPEAKER_00: 7:10

We're gonna look it up. If you parch seminal, you you know that let's go to the hard rock, dog. Yeah, you go to Hard Rock, you might get it, they might let you into the founders.

SPEAKER_01: 7:21

Let's get a clip real quick, dog on the house. Let's go. We be good.

SPEAKER_00: 7:27

Gotcha. I did my little 23andMe. And we came back. I am Haitian and Nigerian. What? Yeah. That's it. That's it. That's what else. Nothing else. I mean, nothing relevant.

SPEAKER_01: 7:39

No shit. I didn't.

SPEAKER_00: 7:40

Look, I tried to get a little bit of white in there and hoping to beat your better score. You know what I mean? Just a little bit. I'm the one that walked to the cripple. 7%?

SPEAKER_01: 7:51

Oh, Mr. Chappelle. Why did you lift your cheeks or spread your cheeks and lift your shit? Remember that shit?

SPEAKER_00: 7:58

Turn that bitch up 70 points. Need that. Oh my God. I need that. That is hilarious. No, I've never done that. I need to though. Got to. I would be I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't.

SPEAKER_01: 8:09

So what part of you in in impelled you or inclined you to play baseball instead of, you know, the other sports? Uh, you just liked it. Were you were you good at batting? Or was it more so the fielding aspect?

SPEAKER_00: 8:24

I was good at I was I was alright at batting. Well, I mean, I carried like a threesome until my high school, late high school. Holy shit. But um fielding. For those who don't know, that high of a batting average is better than average. Like you a high three? Yeah. Yeah. But that's not bad. Most people are around. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 8:45

Most people are around 180 at their batting to be like decent. And then 225 to be considered, you know, even worthy of minor in the ball.

SPEAKER_00: 8:56

I'll say this though. I think because we're in Florida, we play baseball year round.

SPEAKER_01: 9:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 9:01

So your numbers, especially when you're playing, like I played in multiple leagues, your numbers can match somebody else's and they be way better than you. Way better than you. You know what I'm saying? Because it depends on what picture you're facing, you know what I mean? How many times you actually get to that. If I go ten times and I'm hungry for it, I'm probably gonna do better than the next guy. You see what I'm saying? But if he has 32 at bats, you see what I mean?

SPEAKER_01: 9:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 9:29

He's he's laid in, he's comfortable with it, he might make a lot more mistakes than that guy that's 10 in. You know what I'm saying? So even even a three out of 10 is good. You know, four out of four out of ten is sensational. But if you're if you're if you're facing the same people over and over again and they they aren't you know the top of the stratosphere on the pictures, then it don't really matter. You better mean. Now, if if if I'm talking about seminar high school, when I was playing at St. Pete High School, you know, I probably I probably still batted like a two-something. But still, them dudes, like I think, I think eight or nine of them went to the pros right out of high school. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Every single one of their starters were pitching over 90 something miles per hour. Holy shit. Yeah, bro. Yeah, see, I was cool. I was cool on baseball at a small private school, right? Then I, you know, playing around. I met a couple guys who really can pitch for real. I'm oh man. I was about I'm talking about we just playing, you know, this is just uh, you know, at the local field. Yeah. Buddy loaded up, huh? You know what? This for y'all. Y'all got eight.

SPEAKER_01: 10:39

So these guys from Seminole, they were, and you were you went to Seminole also.

SPEAKER_00: 10:42

No, I went I went to St. Petersburg.

SPEAKER_01: 10:44

Were they throwing BP at you though?

SPEAKER_00: 10:46

Batting practice? No, I mean during practice, St. Pete practice, yes. I'm talking about during our games. Now, St. Pete, you know, when I played, we were doing very well, you know, prior to me being there. They they were doing very well as a baseball team.

SPEAKER_01: 10:59

Yeah, I heard they were actually a really good team.

SPEAKER_00: 11:01

Bro, we made it two or three games away from state. Yeah. You know what I mean? And made some bad choices, lost that game. Um, but Semino was always a rival of ours because now, sadly, they we might have won one game. You know what I'm saying? But they were those boys. Different. Different. On a different level, man. On a different level. So I mean, it just depends, but I mean, I was all right. You know, I did, I did some of the things. You know, 300 average. I was like, No, I got I got scouted at one point in time. I got scouted by the Phillies at one point in time. Um, but Thrashers, right?

unknown: 11:35

No.

SPEAKER_00: 11:36

No, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 11:37

Phillies uh minor league.

SPEAKER_00: 11:39

No, no, he's saying the Phillies. Yeah, Philadelphia Phillies. Yeah, but he's not talking about the minor league, he's talking about the major league. I was I was playing in a little league world series up in Chicago, and they came to the wrong game. I got lucky. You know, I was pitching against London, but you gotta think about that. I'm pitching against London. London. I pitched six and one third. I don't even know. Moved to third base. Talking about London like much fucking. The country. The country.

SPEAKER_01: 12:01

Well, not the country, the city and the other coach. Across the pond. Across the pond. The British niggas, man.

SPEAKER_00: 12:08

Yeah, British motherfuckers. The little Harry Potters, man. Let's go. Harry Potters. You know what I mean? Niggas said when Guardian Levyosa and float that batch across the room. Yeah, you know, I got, I got, I got, I got, I think I got I got lucky in that sense because I played an amazing game. You know, moved to third, made the last out of third. It looked, it all looked good. You know what I'm saying? But you have to wonder, you have to think about who your opponent really is. Now, would I have done that if when I played Atlanta? Who fucking knows? Probably not. Have a little bit of faith in the city. If Dominican Republic comes in and shows up in that bitch, absolutely not. This is the thing. Well, these kids are hitting home runs for fun. This is my thing about dudes, dudes that are played sports. You motherfuckers need to be honest about what your what your ceiling was. What your sh really was, man. You know what I mean? Like, could I have made it to the pros? Probably eventually if I worked my ass off like Kobe or something. You know what I'm saying? Because these some of these dudes was spit out like this. They was ready. You know, God rest so Scott or Delgado. Yeah. Come on, Ravi Ray. You know what I'm saying? So off ticket. Come on, off ticket. These guys just damn like they get out to play baseball, bro. So it's it's you gotta be people need to be honest because like dudes that go to uh football games or basketball games, they talk shit from the stands. Oh man. What's crazy is like I've gone to like when I go to like butts games and stuff like that, I hear every dude is talking shit. Yep. Like, oh, make the play. Now, me being someone who's played, I'm like, bro, I'm not arguing with any of these niggas. Like, how'd he miss that tackle? You've never been running upwards of 20 miles an hour, and if someone makes a slight change in direction, that's it. You're done. If I'm running at full tilt, coming down to you, I'm coming down here even under control. That puts me at maybe 15 or 16. Man, and you make a hard cut, there's no way I'm putting my foot in the ground and making an tackle.

SPEAKER_01: 13:57

I don't like that you're talking shit about Bucks fans over there.

SPEAKER_00: 14:00

Okay, come on now. Ready? Ready? No, he's talking about fans, period. I'm talking about. I'm a Bucks fan too. We'll say, we'll say, we'll say Philly fans because everybody hates that. Okay? I'm wrong. No, I don't care about it. So go ahead. All right, fine, fine, fine. Fine. I'll say Dallas Cowboys fans.

SPEAKER_01: 14:16

I think if you say Ravens fans, I think.

SPEAKER_00: 14:18

No one hates us. No one hates us. I think I think fans, period, do that. Yeah, they do. I call them couch coaches. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Oh, I like that. Guys, guys who never played down after high school, didn't start at their high school. Didn't play a down at their high school either. They just practiced. And you out here trying to tell me that that's a stupid call.

SPEAKER_01: 14:40

Yo, I think I think we just figured out a new uh a new thing to put on a shirt for your merch for Max We Trust. Couch coaches. Fuck couch coaches.

SPEAKER_00: 14:52

FCC on the front. FC couch coaches. Fuck couch.

SPEAKER_01: 14:56

I like it so much. I'm writing that bitch down. Write it down. We're ready. I'm writing it down.

SPEAKER_00: 15:01

Like, subscribe. I'm writing. Follow. And there's gonna be merch coming. You heard what he said. Oh man, you gotta let me know when that merch drops. I gotta go ahead. It's gonna be great. But you know what we should do? We need to get some merch and stuff for your music. Because I'm ready to see if the tour pop up album draw. Man, I'm I've I've been really low key with it.

SPEAKER_01: 15:21

Are you sizing Claude right now?

SPEAKER_00: 15:23

No, I'm just No, it's encouragement, man. It's because I because I believe in what I'm I believe in what he does. I'm laying back on it, and I don't need to be. That's what it should be. It should not be. You know, that's basically what it's doing. It should not be. I tell everybody if you've got something you are talented at, follow it to its full potential. And you know what? I you know, I will say, I started doing it this go round because well, you know. But it's therapy, man. Because I I can't lie. Because it's so because whatever tone I'm coming, whether people like it or not, whatever. The tone is coming off is honest. You know what I'm saying? The mute, the words that's coming out is honest. You know what I'm saying? So but the fact that people are grabbing on to it, you because you're not the only person that told me about your turn. You're not the only person that brings it up when I come around. So yeah, it's time to because I'm still waiting. It's time to, it's time to actually push, push like a stuff.

SPEAKER_01: 16:17

So so we actually uh he was a guest host on my podcast um on the weekend. And we had uh Young Hub, shout out AJ, shout out AJ, uh super cool guy. Uh and um Max, you came up with a brilliant idea where it was you can go after like the WNBA minor league teams to have the DJs during pre-workouts, but while the the guests are getting to the stadium to play your songs, dude. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 16:53

Hey, I might be on to something. Bro, when he when he said that shit, yeah, he's on the side. AJ was like, damn, never fucking thought about that. I could hear daydreams in warm-ups. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, dead ass. And then think about it in baseball, you've got more opportunities than y'all would say basketball. Because you do every batter, every batter, every out, every out, in between, yep. Whenever we're rotating, transitions because you got TV breaks. Because you're talking about playing it in the stadium. Yeah. He's a smart man.

SPEAKER_01: 17:26

Well, and he also said the rowdies, Tampa Bay Rowdies, Owling. Yes, and then there was one more around here.

SPEAKER_00: 17:33

Uh uh. You had it.

SPEAKER_01: 17:35

Um, you you told you told young Hub, God damn it, bro. I forget.

SPEAKER_00: 17:40

I told him basically all your major sporting events. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All your major sporting events, even if you catch like some simple like WWE was just here recently.

SPEAKER_01: 17:47

Yes, that's what you brought up. Yeah, you can do WWE.

SPEAKER_00: 17:49

That's they're always gonna have something going on outside before the doors open. This is true. This is true.

SPEAKER_01: 17:56

Yeah, I mean, these are good ideas to put your music out.

SPEAKER_00: 18:01

Yeah, I I saw some of your comments too. Yeah, we're gonna get together with that with that filmmaker. That you that you and we need to do something. I appreciate that. I do what I can, man.

SPEAKER_02: 18:09

Hey, hey, he you know what he does, what he what do he wants you to do when he puts it out there?

SPEAKER_00: 18:13

If you want to be a you try to be on the network, you want me to just give you the keys to somebody? No, I can do that idea. I can point you in the right direction. I appreciate that motherfuckers like you around, baby. You know what I'm saying? They get you right. Yeah, he gives it right every time. I can't do it, I can't do it for you. But I know somebody who can. What's that movie with uh Denizel and I know a guy? I know a guy.

SPEAKER_01: 18:34

I know a guy. No, that wasn't with the gun. Two guns.

SPEAKER_00: 18:37

Two guns. With him and uh Mark Walbert. He's I know a guy Bobby. The little drug dealer was like, I need this, I need a, I need a I need a 67 Malibu, da da da da candy.

SPEAKER_01: 18:48

No, no, no, that was the horrible bosses. No, it's with Jamie Foxx.

SPEAKER_00: 18:52

Alright, what you want to bet on it? What you gonna bet on it?

SPEAKER_01: 18:54

I don't want to put any money on it.

SPEAKER_00: 18:55

You ain't gonna put no money on it? Look, we'll bet check for the. That's that one, but I know the one you're talking about? No, that where I'm talking about something. I know a guy. Every time the drug dealer asks him to do something, he goes, I know. Oh Mary King. Uh oh, it's two guns with him and Mark Wahlberg. Him and Mark Wahlberg. What are you talking about when he was a D agent? Yeah, they were trying to clear their names and the Spanish. They robbed the police station before they rob the bank. Yeah, but we robbed us because we're about to rob the bank.

SPEAKER_01: 19:30

And then they said, hey, where's El Hefe? And uh, oh, you're sitting right next to him. And there was a head in a bowling bag. In a bowling bag, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah. That was a good movie.

SPEAKER_00: 19:39

Now, speaking of movies, now you're talking about good movies. Ah, anybody aren't about No Country for Old Men.

SPEAKER_01: 19:44

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00: 19:46

Come on, man.

SPEAKER_01: 19:47

Fuck yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 19:47

Fuck yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 19:48

All right, Josh Brolin. What you gotta say, because your face is changing, sir. You've never seen Old Country for or No Country for Old Men?

SPEAKER_00: 19:56

First off, yes.

SPEAKER_01: 19:57

Oh, okay. So then why were you tilting your head down in disbelief and despair?

SPEAKER_00: 20:02

It's a good movie. Absolutely. All right, you know what? What but there's no buttons. It's a good movie. What's the butt? There's no butt. I didn't say you didn't say I didn't say it was my favorite or anything. Oh, there's no.

SPEAKER_01: 20:14

As long as there's no buttons, but we could still say it's a great movie.

SPEAKER_00: 20:17

It's a great movie. But this guy is saying it with a butt. You said it with a butt. No, he didn't. He didn't. No, no. Attitude said it with a butt. I said it's a good movie. His is his. It's not an amazing movie. It's a good movie. You're a it's telling me in something else. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01: 20:39

That's exactly what I'm reading. That's what I'm reading right there, dog.

SPEAKER_00: 20:42

For me, it's a good movie. You're seeing it like a like question. Wait, let's differentiate. Why is it good? And not great. To you. There's so many other great movies. Bro, I don't stop comparing it to other movies. Okay, so about the content of that movie. Okay, if I'm just doing a content movie. Yeah, we're not comparing movies here. Okay, that's fine. It's a good movie. Well, we had already sent Denzel, so I've registered like eight other movies. Come on. No, I'm just talking about the plot of the acting. Okay, we're just talking about just that movie. It's a I like it. Okay, okay. The town. What do you feel about that too? The town.

SPEAKER_01: 21:14

The town's also a great movie.

SPEAKER_00: 21:15

Great movie.

SPEAKER_01: 21:16

Great movie.

SPEAKER_00: 21:17

Okay, good. There you go. No, no, no, bullshit. Good. Hey, you remember the scene? See, I understand what he said. No, no, bro. Don't say the scene about a cop. Yeah, where he's like, where he's like, he's like, he's like, You ever see a scene like that in any other movie?

SPEAKER_01: 21:30

Cop literally goes, No.

SPEAKER_00: 21:32

And they all pause.

SPEAKER_01: 21:33

And you're expecting them to blow away the cop, and the cop just goes, turn around.

SPEAKER_00: 21:37

He just turns his head. Bro. I don't blame him. He just is retired. Okay, how about the departed? That's a great movie. I haven't seen that. Oh my god, bro. Watch it.

SPEAKER_01: 21:48

Leonardo DiCaprio, Matt Damon, Jack Nicholson, Mark Wahlberg, Martin Sheen. Martin Sheen and um and uh yeah, those are the main ones, but then five big ones right here.

SPEAKER_00: 22:01

Yeah, those are your five big ones. And then you still have uh I haven't seen it. What's the what's the black dude? Uh heavyset, light-skinned dude. Fuck, what is his name? Heavy D. Malcolm, no Malcolm Anderson, that's not it.

SPEAKER_01: 22:15

I don't remember a black dude headlining or supporting in that movie.

SPEAKER_00: 22:17

It was supported. He was waiting till he went to um the Academy with Leonardo King. Oh shit. You're talking about the guy comedian.

SPEAKER_01: 22:25

Yeah, yeah, he's a comedian.

SPEAKER_00: 22:26

He was also in uh Oh my you know what I'm looking it up right now. See, y'all gotta look it up. Because I was about to say, I have key movies that just stick in my head. So Heat sticks in my head. Heat is good. Heat is good.

SPEAKER_01: 22:39

Heat is good.

SPEAKER_00: 22:40

See, you may not you may not think about it, but uh Batman when my Anthony Anderson, that's what it was. Okay, hold on, hold on, here you go. Hold on, let's roll through this real quick. Real quick. Here we go.

SPEAKER_01: 22:51

Are you talking about the people that are going straight?

SPEAKER_00: 22:53

I'm doing straight cast. Okay, Matt Damon, Jack Nicholson, Leonardo Castle. Yep. Yeah. I don't know. Mark Wahlberg, Martin Sheen. Alec Baldwin. Yeah. I forgot he was in it. Okay. Then you've got, oh hold on, where's it going? Anthony Anderson, William Monhand, who always plays a fucking cheap villain.

SPEAKER_01: 23:15

You also had the chick, Vera Farmiga.

SPEAKER_00: 23:18

Oh, yeah, I forgot about her. Tried to ignore her.

SPEAKER_01: 23:20

And then that was pretty much all.

SPEAKER_00: 23:22

I'm trying to see if there's anybody else down at the bottom line up. You had to have seen this.

SPEAKER_01: 23:28

Let me just put the the uh this this was the departed.

SPEAKER_00: 23:33

Yeah, I think I did see this. There's no way you don't see the departed. I think I did see this. Now, could you imagine if one of your songs is in the movie like this? Yeah. Think about it. I mean, they got off camera. Off camera, we'll talk about some people I know. I'm just telling you right now, you got some, you got some. I mean, I just got local. But I'll say this, I'll say this. Being close to people like you, Max, you gotta understand, puts me in a position where I just need to pull the trigger on shit. Being close to people like if if you know him, that means you see what I'm saying? That means that I can use you as a resource as long as my resources are what they supposed to be. Absolutely. You know what I mean? So, yeah, time to step on the gas, man. So what we're gonna do is we're gonna step on that gas when we come right back on the next part of him. And Max Week Trust almost had happy hour holidays.

SPEAKER_01: 24:22

Because we got the need for speed.

SPEAKER_00: 24:26

And we're back for round two of Mr. Claw here. Now, it is June. Yep.

SPEAKER_01: 24:30

It is going to be can you start start all over?

SPEAKER_00: 24:33

Yeah, start all over? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 24:35

All right. No, no, no. I'm just kidding. I was just interrupting on purpose. On purpose. See, and that ties into what we're talking about. That ties into what we're talking about. It's June.

SPEAKER_00: 24:43

It's men's mental health awareness month. Yep.

SPEAKER_01: 24:46

Now, best way to overcome these mental health.

SPEAKER_00: 24:51

Oh no. Yeah, you what am I gonna say? Strip clubs will not get it over there. I don't know. It helps a little bit. Okay, helps a little bit. You know what? Let's roll with your kid because I got time today. Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 25:04

I've seen So let's say you are feeling down on yourself. Okay. You break up with your girl, and you're like, damn, I don't feel good about myself. And then you go to a strip club. And then at the strip club, you meet a chick, and she just let's call it PH. And we all know, shout out PH. Shout out PH. If you want, if you want to be a sponsor on this, uh let's do it. Let's do it. Get it done. Um, and then they start talking to you. Don't ask for a single dollar. Maybe you buy them a drink or two, and then they're hanging out the whole time. That gives you a little confidence boost. You walk out that front door. I mean, come on now.

SPEAKER_00: 25:39

I I feel I feel now. My ego feels great, but my pockets are like, yeah. You know what I mean? Except for when one might actually like you, but I don't offer that. Probably like point two. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 25:52

So you're saying there's a chance.

SPEAKER_00: 25:54

So I got a better chance running to a girl at Walmart and just exactly. But you know what I mean? I mean, I would say this. I would say this. If you got, if you got the because I call them shaking tickets. Yeah. If you got the shaking tickets to spin, sure. But don't go in and go. I got it, I got some shit in my song to say, oh, nigga, you think you're special. Fuck it. If you come in here thinking you special, all right? You think she's here because you're cute?

SPEAKER_01: 26:21

No, well, so check it out. So my whole premise, my whole premise is they don't think you're cute. And you're walking in there with no expectation other than let me just get a girl to talk to me. And I don't know how many strip clubs you've been to, but bro, there's been times I walk in there, I don't pay a single fucking dollar. Yeah, maybe one or two drinks, yeah, but that's a lot cheaper than a$20 dance and fucking$100,$600.

SPEAKER_00: 26:45

I don't know where they are. Yeah, yeah. You tell me, I still won't go.

SPEAKER_01: 26:50

Hey, listen, I've been married seven years. I've been married seven years.

SPEAKER_00: 26:55

Stay over there in the marriage life, bro. That's safe. That's beautiful. That's safe. You're giving back to society with that shit. I am not. I am not. All right. But I'm giving back, I'm giving back to these with these shaker tickets. But I'll say, don't go in there with no. Well, I'll say my expectation is if a woman likes me, I'll know it. If she wants something from me, I'll know it. But I know what my expectation is when I go in there in terms of what I'm going to spend. What is it? It depends on the date. Not on the dollar, man. I mean, like, are you? It depends on the date. Are you what your intentions when you go in there? Yeah, what are your intentions?

SPEAKER_01: 27:28

Are you like thinking to yourself, I'm just gonna walk in there, grab a couple beers, dip out. Look at some titties, not tip a dollar.

SPEAKER_00: 27:35

No, it's never that. Never know. Unless I'm going in there, unless I'm going in there extremely early, you know what I mean? To see my dog. Yes, sir. You know what I'm saying? Smoke some hookah, listen to some music.

SPEAKER_01: 27:47

What are we talking about? Like 12 p.m., bro? 12, bro. 12.

SPEAKER_00: 27:50

Yeah, one. No, no, no, look. Let's let's do it like this. Let me tell you the two two versions, two versions of the strip club. All right. You can either go during day shift, ready, it's gonna be, they're not gonna charge you to get in. Nope. Ain't no charge for parking. Nope. Ain't no, your drink specials are crazy.

SPEAKER_01: 28:08

I didn't even know they charge for parking.

SPEAKER_00: 28:09

Some places, yeah. Some places charge a parking. Yeah. And some places start food. Yeah. Like half your drinks are gonna be half off during the day. And there's less dancers there. Yes, they are. So it's not like you're getting bombarded for them trying to get your money out of your hand and then dip out on you. However, I am a bit of a connoisseur when it comes to this. Okay. So, and I've been going for I've been going for a while, bro. But sometimes, as much as I've been going, you can walk in and tell what type of strip club it is. I'm not gonna go into detail of that. But why not? Why can't we go into the detail, dog? Some strip clubs, you can tell that the women are there chilling because they're there for the day shift and they're used to chilling. However, they got they got some regulars that's finna come in there and drop some money on their ass, and they know that. You know what I mean? So the rest of the people that they chilling with, they don't give a fuck. Yeah, but whatever I get from you is cool. That's extra. 2050, you buy me drinks while I wait on uh uh X, Y, and Z and come to this motherfucker. And I tell you, X, Y, and Zen are usually high-ranking somebody who get off of work at five.

SPEAKER_01: 29:15

So what you're saying is the bitches are just wasting time. No, they're not wasting time. No, they're not wasting time.

SPEAKER_00: 29:20

They're gonna get what they can from you because guess what? Until this guy gets in. Depending on where they're at, from let's say, let's say that guy doesn't come in until 5 30, 6. And I'm talking about some of these dudes got so much money they got drivers, bro. I'm not playing. Some of these motherfuckers, some of these motherfuckers driving they expensive ass cars, but some of them got drivers. I know a couple. They'll pull up, driver pull up, drop them off, drop their ass the fuck up, bro. And he does. He got a time. What? He got a time that he got to be out the front door. Yep. And they'll come tell me, like, hey, because the driver's gonna sell by this. The driver gonna pull up. That girl gonna make sure he goes too. Cause guess what? She wants him to come back. That motherfucker coming at the game. Well, that bitch may be going with him. No, she's not, sir, sir. Are you talking about Strip Club rules 101? Dancers are not permitted to leave with customers. That is illegal in the state of Florida. There is no clue that is allowing that kind of thing. Not leaving with him, why? Because he's going back to his million-dollar house with his wife and kids. Yes. That's why. Okay? Their job is to sell a fantasy.

SPEAKER_01: 30:22

That's it. Well, what if I said I've seen plenty of strippers allegedly leave at a certain time and clock out at a certain time.

SPEAKER_00: 30:30

And meet a motherfucker down the street and around the corner. Or take an Uber. Ready, ready, furthest gas station or near the gas station. So what are we talking about here? Semantics? Right in front of the club? That's not gonna happen. Never, don't never. That's not gonna happen. That bitch is fire. But my wife don't even walk. Damn. Don't even walk. Don't even walk out of the club and get it. She saw my new car, she was like, oh, you remember that shit?

SPEAKER_01: 30:56

Wait a second, wait a second, Claude. I thought at the beginning of this, you said you didn't have a wife.

SPEAKER_00: 31:02

I don't have a wife. That's my Max. Can you give it to the phone?

SPEAKER_01: 31:05

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, but you said wife just now.

SPEAKER_00: 31:07

But I want him to explain this. That is his that is his workslash club wife. That's it. Because here's why. Here's why. In some scenarios.

SPEAKER_01: 31:16

Why are you explaining it not Claude?

SPEAKER_00: 31:18

Because he explains it better. Yeah. Because he's done. It's like when you call your lawyer over to talk to that. So I'm telling you why. This is why I want him to explain it. Because when I noticed everybody else noticed, when me and her were dating, I walked over to him. I started saying something. He was like, bro, you ain't gotta tell me. I already know. He tapped me, he tapped me on my chest and walked off. Yeah. Like, bro. He told him it's a secret. He thought it's a I was walking up him to apologize. Hey, bro, you know I sorry, blah, blah, blah. He was like, oh, he cut me off. I probably got like one or two words out. Tap me on my chest and walked off. We already know. Yeah, you're good. Since then she's been my wife. So what is the uh what is the uh legal jargon? Okay, so that is his workslash club wife, okay? Yeah. In some scenarios, it's very rare to come by this, where you may meet a young lady in the club where she actually likes you and she actually gives a fuck about you where you exchange information or whatever, and then you build a relationship outside of the club. So it's no longer, I tell people all the time, if you meet her in the club, that's a transaction. That's it. That's it. She's here to get money and go on to the next. You think you're special? No, you're not. See how they plug the song while I'm in there. It's only yours, turn you in it. Just your turn, nigga. That is so in the club, that's a transaction. But once you're outside of those wall, you get to see who they are outside of that. You get yeah, you get you get their stage name and that persona while you're there. Yep. When you get outside, that's a totally different person. Oh man. And you get to build a real relationship with that person. I know who her ex-husband is. I done seen pictures from Brazil. Oh, we done been, you know what I'm saying? That girl came. These type of women do not just come out. That first first date, YSL Heels, them pants was$400, bro. Mm-hmm. And like a$300 spaghetti strap. Because she wants to, she has and continue will to live a certain lifestyle.

SPEAKER_01: 33:11

So this kind of leads into uh your song, right?

SPEAKER_00: 33:15

Yeah, it absolutely does. Yes, it does. But let me say, I'm gonna say this, I'll say this before you play that. I'll say this. I think even when you meet in that predicament, because when I met her, bro, I ain't say shit to her. I seen her from across the club. I came in there to see somebody else. That goes back to what you were asking, like, why do you go in the strip club? Depending on I I ain't lost my mama, bro. I got money. So I'm just let me just, you know, go in here and see that person and be about it. Yeah, and be like, you know, and sometimes I it wouldn't even be about a dance. Sometimes I would just throw some money. You know what I'm saying? And I get it. But I'll say this when it comes to stuff like that, guys will go to certain places when they're grieving. Like grieving, grieving. I lost my work as hard. You know what I mean? Because you gotta think about it. This is that type of environment. Strip club is the only type of environment where men, men, everything we do is performance-based in life. In life, your job, your pay is based on your performance. In sports, your pay is based on your performance. Yep. This is the one place where it doesn't matter. Nope. It does not matter. You're gonna get somebody who's gonna come feed your ego. Yep, buy your little drinks, that's it. You're gonna get a music, you're gonna get a vibe.

SPEAKER_01: 34:27

It's transactional. It's very transactional. But everything, everything is your discretion.

SPEAKER_00: 34:31

Everything is in your control. I'm gonna be real with you. I'm gonna be real with you. As a man that has been around a bunch of blocks, okay? Some at some point you realize that's all this shit is. All this shit is nothing but transactional. The bitch you think they like you, take away your money and see what she really feels like. See what she really feels like. The girl that I'm calling my wife, bro, I would go in there to see somebody else. She would wait till that bitch went to the bathroom. She came to me, hey, what's her name? Is that your girlfriend? Why you here? Oh, okay. Nice to meet you. Tap me and walk off. That bitch did that three times. I was like, who is this fine ass Brazilian? They keep walking up to me. I'm talking about, bro, not that, not the BBL thick, not the way it hangs over and no. I'm talking about perfection type shit. Look like she runs, look like she been on a beach somewhere. Can we pull up a picture of her? Go for it. Don't put it, I mean.

SPEAKER_01: 35:27

Oh, okay, all right.

SPEAKER_00: 35:28

I don't think you should. It's up to Max.

SPEAKER_01: 35:30

No, it's up to you. Max don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_00: 35:32

She ain't gonna want that. Don't do that. All right, we won't do that. We won't do that. She ain't gonna want that. Don't do that. I'll show you off camera though. Yeah, but don't do that. Off camera, I definitely should. Bro, this this woman sought after me. Sounds like you in love. I am. Damn, dude. I look, I'm not surprised by it. I know. I know.

SPEAKER_01: 35:53

There's a difference between wanting to fuck and fucking and being.

SPEAKER_00: 35:57

But that's a but that's again that goes that goes to that goes to the point of a jump off is a jump off. Yep. That does nothing for my piece. That does nothing for my job. No, I could have jacked off. But having someone like that where you built something for real with that feeds my piece, that eventually leads into bettering my mental space. If everything else in my life can be chaotic, and I got 800 stressors, if I got someone who feeds my piece and for that time frame with you, I can shut that off. And most people will think about because I met her in a strip club, oh, it's trendy. No, this woman used to come to me and say, Claude. Hey baby. You alright? Yeah, I'm all right. She said, let's go for a dance. I can't, I can't afford that right now. She said, it's okay, I'll pay for it. So you paying me to go back on a dance with you. So did she tell you it was your turn? No, she ain't tell me that. I just knew it. The fuck? Bro, I'm 38 with a you see this beard. Come on. Play it. This beer didn't just bro, this is from experience. I stopped counting in college. Let's say that.

SPEAKER_01: 37:02

She said it was your turn.

SPEAKER_00: 37:04

No, she didn't. Oh, this is all this is all for me. Alright? So it was just your turn. It's only yours when you in it. Just your turn.

SPEAKER_02: 37:15

I thought that pussy was like it was just your turn, nigga. It's only yours when you in it. Just your turn.

SPEAKER_00: 37:25

Bro, I made the chorus long for a reason. Men need to think about this. It's only your stop trying to pull yourself out to a woman. Stop trying to pull yourself out to a woman. No, I'll say this. I'll say this.

SPEAKER_01: 37:37

Hey, that's a hard song, though.

SPEAKER_00: 37:39

A woman at the end of the day can be your biggest piece or your biggest downfall.

SPEAKER_01: 37:44

She could be your biggest asset or your biggest liability. But usually they're liability.

SPEAKER_00: 37:51

Let me ask you this though. Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. In that situation, if a woman is honest with you, because we ended up dating, you know what I mean? I'm talking about, bro, the way she gets other women away from me. Hey Claw. How's your father doing? How your house looking? You cleaned your bathroom? This is the stuff she'll ask me to get other women away from me.

SPEAKER_01: 38:11

So she's doing that shit on purpose.

SPEAKER_00: 38:13

Yes!

SPEAKER_01: 38:14

Well, she kind of sounds uh a little bit controlling. And she ain't your wife. Yes, she is.

SPEAKER_00: 38:23

Claude, know how to say know she ain't. In that damn strip club, she is. I better not disrespect her. What if a batter bitch comes by? Don't give a shit.

SPEAKER_01: 38:31

And does the same thing she does. And does No no no hypothetical? Hypothetical. Hypothetical. And does the same thing she does?

SPEAKER_00: 38:39

Because Ari did it. Damn.

SPEAKER_01: 38:41

Yeah, and now you think it's the one.

SPEAKER_00: 38:44

A batter bitch.

SPEAKER_01: 38:45

A batter Brazilian bitch.

SPEAKER_00: 38:48

She did it first, though, bro. And if you did it first, so you got loyalty. So yes, hell yeah. Bro, she didn't ask me for nothing. Bro, there will be times I'd be like, yeah, like I'll get a drink. She's like, no, I'm gonna go over here and get this money from these dudes. I'm gonna come back and buy us drinks. This was not a normal interaction. Anytime I ever seen them together, it's not a you're a I don't I don't know. I don't know. Here's why I say this. I started first time I saw them, I wasn't in the position I am now. I was underneath that. So I would see her come and pay for the dance just to go spend time with him. Jesus. Like she paid, was it? I think it was a 15-minute room. Yeah. Paid for a 15-minute room. Did she tip herself? The tip didn't go to her. The tip would come to me. Yeah, I know. So the show. No, she was so she would lose money the whole way. She that's the L. Yeah, bro. And then she tipped her. Just because she wanted to spend some time with me in the back.

SPEAKER_01: 39:39

Well, why didn't you just get her number and spend time outside of her?

SPEAKER_00: 39:42

She had already been to my house. She had met my father. We had been on several dates. I had been to her house.

SPEAKER_01: 39:48

She kind of sounds like she was your girlfriend, bro. That's why we called her.

SPEAKER_00: 39:51

That's why! That's why she got the wife. No, wife is different, though. This lady. But in terms of this woman has been to his house, yeah, bro, cleaned up. Yeah, bro. Took care of him. Yeah. And made you some food. Yeah. Yeah, bro. And when I tell you, when I tell you, she checked on his mental. Bro, she was on the way. She was, I was in the hospital. She was on the way to the hospital, and I was like, baby, they released me. Don't worry about it. She was on the way to the hospital. This is not a regular, that regular shit. It wasn't regular. It wasn't that. Damn, you dicked her down good. I I mean shit. He pleaded the fifth. He pleased the fifth. He's all one, two, three.

SPEAKER_02: 40:38

You got that, right?

SPEAKER_00: 40:42

He got that. Now, now for that, she was there for you during some of the tough. Tough tough, bro. Because you was going through some things. Yeah, it was. And for as men, it's tough to be able to be open and vulnerable about anything you go through. Because at the end of the day, most guys feel like, well, no one cares. Like, you know what I'm saying? No one cares. If if I can't protect the my job is protect, provide. What I go through to get to that is irrelevant. That gotta be the goal. Yeah. So when you get people who are there for you during those times, that's what makes her so valuable for you. Yeah, it does. Because she was there.

SPEAKER_01: 41:23

Because if you're not there for my hardship, you will not be there for my success.

SPEAKER_00: 41:27

But you gotta understand, you gotta understand, this is this is the type of woman, again, a first date, this girl out on YSL Hills. So are y'all still with your busy call? Huh? Are y'all still together? Fuck no. Excuse me. It was never together. It was just my turn, man. And she's like, I'm fucking confused here, man. No, bro. But but no, I I think, man, look, if you stepping into a certain situation, man, you can't be no duck acting like, what did you? You know what I'm saying? You can't be a duck, like, bro. You where did you meet her? If she was honest with you, what did you what did she tell you? You know what I mean? And what are you gonna do with that information? Now I got a question. I got a real question.

SPEAKER_01: 42:05

I'm trying to get the answers out of y'all. Wait, wait, ready?

SPEAKER_00: 42:08

I'm gonna ask, I'm gonna ask a real question. You you got her. I know you hold her on a pedestal. Yeah, I do. Now, whoa, whoa. Hold her on a pedestal? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I do. So if I have a man, if I want a lot of right now, she's good for the rest of her life. Guaranteed. Oh shit. So that girl, that I'm looking when you meet a woman in that predicament, and she does fit shit for you when you don't have anything, I did have a lot. Let's lie. I did have a lot. But I be on a budget, but when I walk in the gym, I say no, bitches, no. No, no, but when somebody says okay and they steal that for you and da da da, bro. We done, I done been out. She likes claw driving my car. Hey, nah, I'm about to pick up something up from da da da. Let me let's switch seats. You got yeah, bro. We me and her. They got they got a real baby, bro. That's my baby. Was I not getting the interesting? I can't ask your question. I'm gonna get I'm gonna I'ma I'ma explain it for him once. She the real ride in his life. Okay? Now, is is it a full-blown relationship? No, hell no. Due to what she does, right? You can't fully date somebody in that industry. Claude, I gotta duck off and do this. I gotta duck off to go deal with the other thing. She talked with you. Hey, I gotta, if I don't answer my phone, this why? Hey, Claude, I gotta, yeah. You gotta, she has clients. She has to go see. Yeah. So as a man, could you imagine what that would do to your mentor? Yo, you know your girl gotta step out and go spend time and do X, Y, and Z with another man.

SPEAKER_01: 43:46

Why are you sugarcoating it? Fucking another guy.

SPEAKER_00: 43:49

Hey, look, what she does for her property for her business. Okay. That's her business. It's none of my business. But that's what I'm saying. Because that's what's where the official, like, so I can he could deal with her in the capacity that they're at because there's no relationship tack to it. Y'all, y'all were just friends that like she's not asking of me what she's asking of everybody else. Yeah, like she's not. You know what she tells me? I love your nose. Claude, I love your nose. It's the accent that got you. Cloud, I love your nose. I'm telling you right now. A good accent, hey, a good accent? And when she put them heels on, boy, she's taller than me. Hey, baby. When she clicked her heels, did she say put them heels on taller than me?

SPEAKER_01: 44:29

Did she go? Poppy, poppy, poppy.

SPEAKER_00: 44:35

I did make her do that one time.

SPEAKER_01: 44:41

She didn't get transformed back to the fucking Oklahoma dog. We didn't can't no more. She said Poppy three times, it was over.

SPEAKER_00: 44:49

But see what I'm saying? But here's my question to you. You've got her in the capacity we have her. Right. If you be As a friend, I would assume. Yeah. Yeah, that you fucked the situation, whatever it is. Whatever you want to call it. Whatever it is. And that's the beauty of it. Don't care. I don't really care. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, let's say you meet another woman outside of those circumstances. Okay. In a more generic scenario. Okay. Okay. You met her, call it at a grocery store.

SPEAKER_01: 45:12

Or a public.

SPEAKER_00: 45:13

Sounds good. Call it public. She just came back from a workout. Yeah. I get it. Something on those lines. And she's willing to do for you what this young lady has been doing. Right. If not more, what happens to her? Speedy Gonzalez. Go into the wine. Speedy Gonzalez. Go into the new one. Yes. Hell yeah. So what it sounds like. Here we go. Watching work. I told you I was going to go. Yeah, word that you said let me cook. So what I'm hearing is Kobe's right now. If you if you were to change your scenario and where you meet women, would have changed the result. Yes and no. So this is what I tell you. Most people, bro, the shit that I when you don't see me, y'all think I don't do shit around the motherfuckers we know. Fact. They talk too much. Absolutely. And you just stuck in their ways too much. Absolutely. I be ducked off. That's what they do. So I've already been there and done that. Bro, I've dated countless types of women. Doctors, analysts, women with MBAs, you know, physicians, assistants. I've dated all of these women. You know what I'm saying? I'm just being seized. But what I say is, what I say is there's a common denominator, and the fact is they want some type of resource from me. So because you know certain shit I ain't gonna say here, that particular why not?

SPEAKER_01: 46:41

Yeah, say it.

SPEAKER_00: 46:42

Because it's too personal, and that's where I'm gonna leave it.

SPEAKER_01: 46:44

Alright.

SPEAKER_00: 46:45

But in that situation, that's way more important than what you're getting from me. Bro, I could have been. You know how much. Yeah, you already know. Turnover sheets. Wow, turnover. No, no, I'm talking about I'm talking about my pocket. Y'all already know. You already know, so I could have. But there's there's when you when a man that digs as deep as I do comes to the realization that all of them got this common denominator of resource finance, dip, drip, and grip, I'm good, bro. I'm good. And I've I've given, I bought a car because a woman says she don't want her son riding my truck. My credit good, I got the cash. I bought a car. Why? Because she said I want my son riding in your truck.

SPEAKER_01: 47:34

Yeah, but why did that matter to you?

SPEAKER_00: 47:36

It doesn't fucking matter. My woman said it. Period. I'm telling you how I operate, bro. I don't play. My woman said I want my son riding in your 94. I bought a 2011 Sonata. This was years ago. So when I'm the sonata first came out, ain't it? Yes! Yeah, you bought a brand new Sonata. What? Yep. I bought that, bro. I ain't put no down payment on it, nothing. So if I can do this kind of stuff for a woman that's going to ask this of me, and if that done kinda return, I'm out. And these days, I out, nigga. All right. That's it.

SPEAKER_01: 48:15

Hey, hey, you ain't just out, you pullin out too. This guy did a dance move outside calling his thing. He was like, we was like, Matthew, you got pregnant.

SPEAKER_00: 48:30

He was like, Mo. He was a professional dancer caddy. I'ma take it like this. In the pull up. You didn't know shit. You got a kid, bro. That was it. You called the poppy three times. Click your heels and you're pregnant. It's done. You're done. Look, I just assumed you're ready for me to be one. Shoosh.

SPEAKER_01: 49:00

I think you're joking. But I know. But I know. But I know you're not joking.

SPEAKER_00: 49:06

But I know you're not joking, bro. Click your heels three times. We'll be back for the next segment of Impact Sweet Trust. Like, subscribe, comment, share, follow, do it all. We'll be right back. Not fucking leaving. Alright. We're back. Part three with Senor Claude. Now, Claude, as again, like I said, June is men's mental health awareness month. Yes, sir. Very important thing. Um, how do you feel your mental health affects your music? Uh I personally feel as though it's easier to expel expel the feelings to my music. Okay. So it could be so like, you know, I have a song called Jump In. Um and I'm talking about how I came into uh a part of life that I should have should not have been any readier. You know what I'm saying? Um but because of my mental health, that made me see okay to whatever I was doing. You know what I mean? But then you go through those like honeymoon phases with women, and like I have another song called Daydreams. Can we take a minute? Can we take a minute and play that real quick? And play daydreams, right? Play Daydreams, I like that one. Alright, I got it right here. I know you did. I got it downloaded. I knew I knew my DJ had that. That is that is about a that's about a woman.

SPEAKER_01: 50:33

Just quick one minute, 16 seconds, daydream. Quick, man.

unknown: 50:39

I'ma make my baby day dream about last night.

SPEAKER_00: 50:43

Facing the middle home and those screams, baby grand shits. I'm telling a story, and it ain't no lie, I got it. I'ma make my baby days dream about last night.

SPEAKER_02: 50:54

Facing the middle home gives those screams, baby grands. You open your eyes out of all baby.

SPEAKER_00: 51:26

And I'm gonna be honest. Bro, I made it, I make, I make songs that are short. I don't necessarily go for a four-minute song. I don't. You know, I used to go for a 16 bar verses, so on and so forth. I it record a feeling. Yeah. You know what I mean? Uh most people don't have the attention span to even pay attention to a four four-minute, 30-second song. You know how many songs I get to like my favorite part in the first like chorus, first verse verse, the chorus, and I'm like, next, next. So I'm I've I've, you know, coming back in at this time after about 2019, I think I jumped back in it last year. We were, you know, we were talking about me and you was me and you was head to head. You know, that was last year. So uh recording a feeling, man, letting it go. You know, uh talking about that moment, um, and even like that sheets, like the the things that I've recorded lately have been about the particular woman that I've dated. You know, I may sound a certain way when we talk about other topics, but I'm a relationship dude, bro. You know what I mean? However, life happens. Life happens, and while you're single, you're single. You're single. And I always tell women, I ain't Ross, you ain't Rachel. So if we get We were on a break! We were no fucking break me break up. I've been telling women this shit since that episode came. If we're on a break, we're done. We're done. You cannot wait for anything that happened.

SPEAKER_01: 52:53

So you were also talking about sheets. Let's play a little bit of sheets, right?

SPEAKER_00: 52:57

Go for it, man. I love that motherfucker. You ain't gonna she stay on your fucking.

SPEAKER_01: 53:03

Actually, you know what?

SPEAKER_02: 53:04

You ain't gonna feel so she stay on your face.

SPEAKER_00: 53:07

Now I will say some of my courses are long, but that's what people catch on to. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02: 53:28

You know what I'm gonna do.

SPEAKER_01: 53:32

It seems like you are fucking everybody in Tampa Bay.

SPEAKER_00: 53:35

No, no, no. I'm talking about one woman. I want I mean she might be fucking one plus one is still two.

SPEAKER_02: 53:46

Exactly. You know what I mean? Exactly.

SPEAKER_00: 53:49

So so let me let me let me say like this. In regards to, and a lot of artists go through it. A lot of artists deal with it where they put their life, their hardships into their music, and it tends to be some of the best work they've done. I'll give the example all the time of Chris Brown with residuals. Yeah. That's obviously about Rihanna is time with her. And that might be one of his uh, I would say that's probably his soulmate. You know what I mean? Uh I think it is actually. You know what I mean? Yeah, it didn't work out, but that's yeah, there's a reason ASAP Rocky was looking at him in that picture. Mm-hmm. That a certain way, because he knows. Everybody knows. Everybody understands that everybody knows. Guess what? Soulmates go through that deeper type of shit.

SPEAKER_01: 54:27

Where they beat the shit out of their soulmates.

SPEAKER_00: 54:30

You call it soulmates. You call it what you want, you call it what you want. But ready, how many people on average in the US go through that and then stay together? Boom.

SPEAKER_01: 54:38

If they were and Rihanna and Chris Brown aren't together, but no, no, but I'm saying that's his point.

SPEAKER_00: 54:42

That's my point.

SPEAKER_01: 54:43

Oh.

SPEAKER_00: 54:44

That they were two megastars at 18. Okay, let's not forget this happened when he was 18, yeah, and it been in the public eyes. It was a spider Lamborghini. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 54:54

Who the fuck beats a bitch in a spider Lamborghini?

SPEAKER_00: 54:58

Who the fuck has one at 18? Yep.

SPEAKER_01: 55:00

Chris Brown.

SPEAKER_00: 55:01

Bro, both of them were mentally fucked. That's what I'm saying. You're you're talking about, you're talking about both of them had to deal with the pressures of being stars in their respective genres. Early in their respective genres. Then you have your actual, like you've got your money issues that come with the stardom that they have. Then you have the issue of everybody wanting something from you. Yep. Plus your day-to-day relationship shit. Guys beat guys and girls fight on a 60K household. Each person only making 60k a year. Yep. These are multimillionaires. Man, they fight when a nigga ain't got no job and she on food stamps with five other niggas' kids. Well, that makes that makes more sense. But you get what I'm saying. Why? Why does it make more sense? Good point.

SPEAKER_01: 55:50

Because around 90% of individuals in a partnership fight over money. Okay. They had money.

SPEAKER_00: 55:57

They were driving in a Lamborghini spider. No, no, she was arguing with him about another woman. Yeah. So Chris Brown was fucking.

SPEAKER_01: 56:07

It's Chris Brown. And it's Rihanna. So what? Rihanna could get any dick she wants, dog. Rihanna can get any dick she wants.

SPEAKER_00: 56:16

In Chris Brown's eyes, he can get any vagine he wants. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01: 56:20

Why are they together? They should have just been going off by themselves, just fucking. She should have realized your skin.

SPEAKER_00: 56:28

But then she's also the ambassador of Barbados. Are you still dating the girl you were dating at 18? Fuck no. Why? That girl don't even know. Because who she is then ain't got nothing to do with who she is now. She's a bum now. This bum. You know what Rihanna is a baby now. Rihanna's a baby mama now. I'm sending you other emails. Rihanna's a baby mama right now. Look, I'll say this. They are soulmates, okay? Because in terms of talent and production. Tip like this? Uh that one? And then ready, ready, uh, ready. Yeah, ready. Which one do you want? Either one. All right. Surprise us. So tip like this is, we'll talk about it. But they were both very talented people. They didn't give Rihanna the credit she deserved. Chris Brown had her back through the whole thing. Chris Brown was getting poured into shit. She is coming at him about something. Already done hit him two, three times. Bro, if I'm a drunk 18-year-old and so rich that I can afford a Lamborghini spider and can do whatever the fuck I want to.

SPEAKER_01: 57:27

And this woman I'm gonna beat a bitch because I couldn't.

SPEAKER_00: 57:30

This woman, no, she has hit me three times. Let's not say I didn't know that part. I didn't know that part. She had already beaten the brakes off of him. Yeah. Yeah. There were multiple times she had put hands on him and he ain't do nothing. I didn't know that. She had been beating him. She's a Caribbean woman. So you know they fight they fight. So you don't, you one of them, I know black, I know black. I'm one of those what? I know black.

unknown: 58:00

I know.

SPEAKER_00: 58:01

You're Puerto Rico, right? You're Cuban. Yeah. Yeah, you you black, bro. No, I'm not. Okay. All right, cool. I'm American. Still black. Where did the slave trade go to? Do we need to go there? Yeah. Where did the slave trade go to, bro? Right through the Caribbean. Right. They stopped in South America first. Guess what they went to? Y'all at.

SPEAKER_01: 58:19

No, no, they they stopped in Haiti first.

SPEAKER_00: 58:21

No, there were three to four years. They stopped in South America, then Haitian, Cuba, Puerto Rico. That's why there's a lot of that's a lot of people. Depending on the years. During the 400 years they calculate, because they lying if they they say that it wasn't more. Because it way was more. Definitely more. It was so much more. There's three to four years of tracks. The first tracks and the third tracks come through South America. Those second tracks go straight through Central America. I'm not Central America. The Caribbean. So there's a reason why. There's a reason why. Think about this. You remember the program that the Dominicans had where they were testing people's strength? That shit was almost like some Captain America shit. I didn't know. You don't remember that. There's a UFC fighter now. His neck don't move, bro. See, I be digging. There's a you bro, all the strongest slaves cave through South America and in the Caribbean. On the Caribbean, Cuba. The Dominican Republic hated Jamaica. All of Jamaica. That's why you motherfuckers just wake up and just be like until y'all just get lazy and let it go. If you take any anybody who's from the Caribbean in this era, I'd say call it. Let me say this era. Let me say probably 80, 85 years of age and younger. Anybody who's from there, there's gonna have some kind of African in there between three and me. Hell yeah. I can guarantee it. Every single one of them. Everybody. And tell me why why are there 85 year old Jamaican men that are still 172 pounds, muscled up like a bitch? Carved. Carved like Greek God. They're 70, bro. Jamaican men, Haitian men, Dominican men, like y'all, so so up. Y'all, y'all.

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:06

I'm trying to figure out. I'm trying to figure out what the what the point is. What exactly are you getting at? What my point is.

SPEAKER_00: 1:00:11

What are you getting at then? What my point is. Some of the physically strongest people that came from Africa through that whole shit came from South America to that that that all those islands.

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:23

And Rihanna decided, hey, I'm gonna beat up on Chris Brown because I'm Caribbean.

SPEAKER_00: 1:00:28

What I'm saying is, what I'm saying is, all Caribbean women are crazy. Hold on, hold on. Let me get it. Let me get it right here. Caribbean women are a little crazy. We love you. They are crazy. But guess what? Are you telling me that they only got the strongest men? No, they got the strongest women, too. And Rihanna, bro. Bro, Jamaican women. Rihanna, Rihanna, Rihanna. Maybe a Caribbean woman, period. Some of the physically most dense, all right, muscly women. Let me just destroy your entire argument right now.

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:56

I would hear it.

SPEAKER_00: 1:00:57

Simone Biles. Huh? Simone Biles. Where's she from? America. Right, America. Where does she come from for real? I bet. I bet. No, no, no. We're looking it up right now. Yeah. What's her nationality? Looking it up. And I'm looking it up, girl. Simone Biles right there. You look at her. Talk to her. And Jamaican women are the most put together with them. Put in the search. Put in the search. No, no. People try to go to her uh early child. Senegalese women. Her early what? Shit.

SPEAKER_01: 1:01:34

Her ethnicity.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:37

Bro, look at this tattoo, bro. Look at the tattoo. This tattoo is the American flag with the South African flag. Because there's Belize. Belize. Where's that? Where's Belize?

SPEAKER_01: 1:01:49

It's in the Caribbean.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:50

Thank you. What are you talking about? I'm not talking about shit. My dog's like, sit him down. Whoa! What are you talking about? But that this was the strongest people. But but to my Asians particularly. To my original point. To my original point. When you take somebody's. Hey, I'm Caribbean, so. And a little bit. Yeah, but yeah. You never had a crazy moment? Well, anger? Mm-hmm. Any emotion. It don't gotta be. Like when people say, like, oh, you had a moment, it don't gotta be a high anger. It could be a high, high, a high low. No matter what, as long as it's an extreme. And when you own cocaine. Let me ask you. Allegedly, I'm gonna ask you this. I'm gonna ask you this. I'm gonna ask you this. Allegedly. Allegedly. Hey, real shit, real shit. Go ahead. Like, exclude the United States. Because I'm talking about including Hawaii. I'll answer it. Let's go. Samoa. What? Samoa. I don't know what that is. Samoan.

SPEAKER_01: 1:02:43

Oh, Samoan. Samoa. Are you talking about Southeastern Asian Pacific?

SPEAKER_00: 1:02:48

Yes.

SPEAKER_01: 1:02:50

What about them?

SPEAKER_00: 1:02:50

So I'm switching over there because that's an island, right? And they all came to the other. That's a place. That's a place where they have to make their own shit go the way that it's supposed to go. Okay. Right? Sure. They have minimal resources. Those are the strongest people, bro. Not just Samoa. I'm not talking about just Hawaiians. They're surrounded by protein, bro. I'm not talking about people that are on islands secluded, their heritage is so strong because they lived off of that. You're just genetically inclined. Okay, you are. But to my point, I'm sorry. I know how you get. No, no, no. He's getting excited. He'll roll on that because he's Caribbean. Now I'm wondering why you said Haiti first, though. Because they're the only ones to ever actually break out. They broke out. No, I did that because so there's a damn. I mean, god damn. Damn. You know why? You know why I said that? No, I don't. Because what did what did they picture us as? Monkeys. French. French. No. No, no, no. No. It was French. No, the Spaniards. Oh shit. You don't even do you know. Never mind.

SPEAKER_01: 1:04:01

Hispaniola between DR.

SPEAKER_00: 1:04:03

No, the people the people that actually coined slavery, bro. The people that actually started it all. Were the people in Africa? They saw us as many. Actually, it was the Egyptians. They saw us as monkeys. No, Kemet. Yeah, it was the Egyptians. No, the Egyptians started no slavery in in a boat rotation. They didn't start that. They already had enough people coming from the A-Rat. But if you go back far enough, Egypt wasn't Egypt. It was Kemet. Yeah. So what I'm saying is the people that started the channel trade.

SPEAKER_01: 1:04:41

Transatlantic slave trade.

SPEAKER_00: 1:04:43

The people that started that, the Spaniards, the Europeans. They're saying that the people who says Claude.

SPEAKER_01: 1:04:49

Claude, they didn't start it. You know who started it? The people from Africa started it when they started trading their own citizens.

SPEAKER_00: 1:04:56

For goods. No, for goods. They started a resource. Anyway. They didn't own no ships. See, look, see, you know deep. We're not going deep on that. I don't know. Why? Why shouldn't we? They started a resource. They didn't have the ships. They didn't have anything. What I'm saying is, so the reason I said, ooh, ooh, ah. Because your monkey just got out of the cage.

SPEAKER_01: 1:05:16

Nah, bro, that is not what it was, man. Nobody saw monkey. What they saw was free labor. They saw free labor.

SPEAKER_00: 1:05:24

Two-thirds of a human. Vocations, everybody monkeys? Hell no. The Democrats did count it. That was two-thirds of a human. All of them were smart. All of them.

SPEAKER_01: 1:05:40

But let's talk about this off the podcast. Because I can tell Max, Max ain't liking it. I don't care.

SPEAKER_00: 1:05:46

I don't care.

SPEAKER_01: 1:05:47

Okay, then let's keep going.

SPEAKER_00: 1:05:48

Roll with it. I'm with you. Let's keep going. I got tomorrow's guests asking for details about the case. I'm not saying that as a dig or a fault. They saw us as monkeys. But who is they? I did that as they talk about white people. It's talking about white people. I can say it. The Spaniards and the Europeans that donated into that whole slave trade.

SPEAKER_01: 1:06:12

So would you would you say there was black Spaniards? There were a few. But the bad part was. Would you say they were black slave traders? Yes. There were. Who are we blaming? Who are we blaming here? I'm not blaming nobody. We're just blaming countries. Yes. Yes. I agree with that. Yes. I agree with that.

SPEAKER_00: 1:06:31

I say this about slavery. Ready? Watch it. It's an unpopular opinion. It's going to get me canceled with black people every now and again. But I'm going to be Uncle Tom today. You ready? Hey, Tom.

SPEAKER_01: 1:06:41

You as black as they come, bro.

SPEAKER_00: 1:06:42

Yeah, but you know, no.

SPEAKER_01: 1:06:43

You darker than that screen. Ready?

SPEAKER_00: 1:06:46

That's not true. Nigerian, exactly. You say that. You say I'm as black as they come, right? Yeah. But in the black community, I'm not. Me either. Neither is it. Hurts. Here's why. Here's why. Here's why. Because Ethiopia? Nope. I'm going to explain it. I'm educated. Well spoken. I'm accepted by almost every culture group on God's green earth. Why is that not part of the black community? We don't get respected by our own people. Because, because you're you're considered whitewashed. Yes.

SPEAKER_01: 1:07:14

Who is considering you whitewash? The black community.

SPEAKER_00: 1:07:17

Black community.

SPEAKER_01: 1:07:18

So are you saying the black community is racist against black people that are intelligent? Yes.

SPEAKER_00: 1:07:22

Yes. Yes. Example. Give me the audio of like five. Ready? I will give you the perfect example. You could take an Asian culture, you could take the Indian culture, any other culture. They come to the US. Yep. They find their own people. They can start a business. You ever notice if you go to like Italy? They're gonna elevate each other every time. They're gonna elevate each other every time. Black people, if as a black business owner, you would assume that black people come to looking to help my business. Hey, story time. Talk to So Claude's father. Third person. You know how rich think it is? He's calling third third person. Third person. So Claude's father owned a barber and beauty salon, right? Down the street from that shit was a Chinese spot, right?

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 1:08:14

Bro, every three to six months, it was a new set of family buying a new Camry that's running that goddamn Chinese shop. What's wrong with that? Nothing. That's the that's how it's supposed to be. When black people do it, that's how it's supposed to go. When do black people, bro? They would move Chinese people from China. They would make money from their store. They would make enough money from their family to buy houses, put their families in houses, but they would live in generations in those houses. You know what I'm saying? Then they would pass the store along to a new family from China that just came and got that bitch. Then they got new Camaro. I mean, new Camries. Always buying Toyota. Toyota Camry, Toyota Camry, Toyota Camry. Ain't nobody buying no Avalon. Ain't nobody had no Alexis, none of that. No Bengies, nothing. No nothing. Everybody bought a Toyota Camry.

SPEAKER_01: 1:09:08

They tried to go cheapest route. Less expensive. Yeah, less expenses.

SPEAKER_00: 1:09:13

They took, they took, they took the vehicle that holds its value the longest. Boom. Not only that, hold the value the longest and last the longest. And I can pass that down. So hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Mind you, I have a equation from the first family that did it. All we doing is following, follow, following the same damn equation. You got the formula. That's all they're doing. Every time. Then they pass to another family. It's the same store there to this day on 54th Avenue South and 34th Street, sir.

SPEAKER_01: 1:09:47

So let me ask you a question. Does that mean that the Asian community has Looks after their own way better than black people do?

SPEAKER_00: 1:09:54

Yes.

SPEAKER_01: 1:09:55

And do black individuals kind of uh They don't pick up on shit. What about this? No, no, no. That's not entirely true. No, no, no, no. I got you, I got you. No, what I was gonna say is do black individuals hate on other um black individuals that are coming up and don't want to see them succeed because they are making fun of them for the children. Is that what I'm hearing?

SPEAKER_00: 1:10:21

I can give it to you. I can give it to you. Watch, I got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Watch how it goes. For black people, it's always a competition. Yep. You had to be doing a book, you had to you had to be the you had to be the best of the bunch. And it's it's partially a like a culture culturized thing. Because if you look at it, since you were talking about slavery earlier, the best of the best got to be in the house. Yep. And if you were just simply physically fit and they didn't see much potential, you're in a field. So I want to be the best of all of my peers. For the other cultures, it's not like that.

SPEAKER_01: 1:10:57

Just raise raise it up.

SPEAKER_00: 1:10:59

Yeah, it's hey, hey, I'm gonna lift the other man. So I'll say this. It's it's it's it's um you love massive house nigga shit to the 10th power. It is horrible, bro. Horrible. When we should actually be like this, unified. I've I've I've heard crazy people in prison. Oh, you know I work with people mental health. I've been doing this for over a decade, man. You know what I'm saying? I haven't talked about it as much. But my first degree was in sociology, my second degree psychology. I have seen black people tear each other down just because what a motherfucker look like? What a motherfucker, how much money they make, how they speak, all that. I've seen, I've spoken to people that have been in prison. Why the fuck we uplift people that have been in prison? I don't fucking know. But I've seen people that have been in prison, and they be like, oh, Mexicans and whites and uh Jewish, because Jewish is separate from white in prison, even in prison, because usually they're federal crime. You know what I'm saying? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Bro, I can break all this shit down to a T anyway. What they'll say is black people don't sit together. When every other race runs in, the Mexicans run, they got two people that's ready to run to that motherfucker and be like, hey, you good? We'll take your paper later. We got you. We got you. The white people, uh, you good, we'll check your paper later. Jewish people, uh, you good, we check your paper later. Black people like, all them sit back, like, yeah, man, that nigga might be a slim ass. Fuck that nigga, bro. Yeah, hell no, though.

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:35

Why do you think that is?

SPEAKER_00: 1:12:37

Because of the way it was trained, bro. This is a cycle of ready watch. Watch this. What are the two careers everybody or every most black men try to be? They either want to be music, football players, but they want to be athletes, musicians, or something else. Yeah, yeah. So you know what I tell people? Everything's competitive. You know what I tell people, bro? Everything. I have been a director of social services for over a decade. I make music, but I'm a social worker. I make music, but I'm a social worker. And people that put that shit out, I'm gonna put your shit, I'm gonna I'm gonna publish. I hope you do the same for me. But me, I already make solid money. What I make as a director of social services. And see, that's what that's what we hear for in Max We Trust. You want to be able to plug whatever you got going on. Help uplift the next person. Today we've had Claude on the show. Until the next person, MAX We Trust. We out. Like, comment, and subscribe. Make sure to hit that notification button.