SuperSOC: Conversations with the People Shaping the Future of Security Operations
SuperSOC is the monthly podcast where Qevlar AI's CEO Ahmed Achchak interviews top cybersecurity experts to explore the future of the SOC.
From real-world AI applications to rethinking SecOps workflows, each episode delivers bold insights and practical strategies for modern security teams.
Recent guests include Google’s Anton Chuvakin and cybersecurity automation expert Filip Stojkovski.
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SuperSOC: Conversations with the People Shaping the Future of Security Operations
Making AI Useful in the SOC: Data, Metrics & Human Skills ft. Dr. Anton Chuvakin @Google Cloud
AI promises to transform security operations but how much of that is actually happening today? In this episode, Ahmed Achchak (CEO of Qevlar AI) talks with Dr. Anton Chuvakin, Security Advisor at Office of the CISO at Google Cloud, to explore the real, measurable ways AI can improve your SOC and the hard limits many organizations overlook.
You’ll discover:
- Where AI reliably adds value in security operations today and where it doesn’t.
- Why poor data, not weak models, is the biggest blocker to AI success in SOCs.
- The key metrics and KPIs that matter when evaluating AI’s effectiveness.
- What human skills will grow in importance in AI-augmented SOCs and which ones matter less.
Agenda:
00:00 – Introduction: Can AI actually help the SOC?
01:06 – Why “AI SOC” is a misleading term
02:27 – The real reason AI won't run the SOC anytime soon
03:49 – Why better AI doesn’t solve bad data
04:18 – Measuring AI’s impact: productivity vs. autonomy
05:54 – Why GenAI improvements aren't enough without better processes
07:12 – Should you track AI’s accuracy?
08:18 – What AI should actually improve in SOC workflows
08:46 – The human skill that matters most in AI-augmented SOCs
10:01 – What SOC skill might matter less in the future
11:08 – Fire Round: Advice Anton repeats but nobody listens to
12:12 – The SOC transformation most organizations keep postponing
13:46 – Why many SOCs are still struggling with cloud in 2025
15:14 – Wrap-up: What Anton finds surprising about today’s SOCs
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https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuvakin/
Dr. Chuvakin’s blog “Anton On Security”:
https://medium.com/anton-on-security
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https://www.linkedin.com/in/ahmed-achchak-872554109/
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