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Everyday Life:Conversations Over Coffee
Sneaky Snacks
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It’s Sneaky Snack Day on Conversations Over Coffee, and Jen and Dagda are going all in on comfort treats, nostalgia, and the weird ways our bodies—and algorithms—react to what we consume.
In this episode, they:
- Revisit King of the Hill pilot episode and the lost art of knowledgeable hardware-store staff.
- Break down old-school hangover cures, modern supplements, and what being a teetotaler really means.
- Wander into the unglamorous (but real) territory of yeast infections, allergies, and body signals.
- Talk Bobby Brown, Whitney Houston, Sir Mix-a-Lot, and why AI and social feeds seem to be listening.
- Officially launch Sneaky Snack Day, taste-testing Harry Potter 25th anniversary Butterbeer popcorn and fudge-stripe cookies.
- Roast Smoky Bacon Pringles for tasting more like crab bake and old grease than actual bacon.
- Reflect on sugar as comfort, Pacific Northwest gloom, and why our first impulse on a bad day is a fancy coffee or a sweet snack.
If you love food tangents, snack reviews, and brutally honest body talk with a side of pop culture, this one’s for you.
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Welcome to Everyday Life. Thank you for joining our podcast, Conversations Over Coffee. My name is Jen. And I'm Dagda. And we're gonna hit you with the explicit content warning right off the bat. This podcast does include adult situations and adult language from time to time.
SPEAKER_06I'm an angel. I never fucking cuss.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Anyways, you ready to go?
SPEAKER_06Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01Alright, let's go.
SPEAKER_02I mean, not like in the middle of your pooping or something, but like just Yeah, they don't need to hear any of that.
SPEAKER_06In fact, I'm gonna delete what you just said. Plop plop fizz. Plop, plop, piz, piz. Oh, whatever.
SPEAKER_02I don't I think that was the Alka Sultzer one, right?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, that was an Alka Seltzer commercial.
SPEAKER_02Because I'm like, I don't think they had one like that for Tums of Rolades.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, no.
SPEAKER_02Uh but I I'm pretty sure Alka Seltzer is a plot plot fizz fist.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I think so.
SPEAKER_02You know, I don't know, but then we'd be going back to like 1983, and then I don't really remember that year so well.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I thought that was like a 50s one or something.
SPEAKER_02It I think it is. I think the original iteration of it is. And you know what's funny, speaking of old things? Because I watched, I started re-re-listening to the King of the Hill series.
SPEAKER_06Okay. The original or the original.
SPEAKER_02Okay. And it's really neat because the way Hulu has it sets up, it goes from the original and it'll just play all the way through to the end. You just cool. Right? So it just plays it all in order. But it's like Marathon? Yes, I do every night when I go to bed. Well, right now I'm not able to listen to it. I have to, I have to read the closed captioning in three quarters of the dark, squint my eyes like a vol, going, What's going on here? Uh, until I fall asleep, if I can even fall asleep, uh just because my partner has such like an early shift right now. But what it reminded me of, the plop flop is just reminding me of is it's either episode one or it's either the pilot episode or the second episode where uh, and I'm pretty sure it's the pilot episode where uh family services get involved because Bobby gets a black eye at a baseball game, but everybody knows Hank for having a temper. So after the baseball game, he wants to get a he wants to get a tap and die or or whatever from the megalomart. Megalomart. And the the the service clerk or whatever, the retail worker is like, what are you looking for? And he's like, uh. Oh, you know, so it's this banter that goes back and forth about how stupid it is. I think it's like a poke at the fact of there's a reason we had hardware stores and fishing stores and all these specialty stores, so people understood the speak, and now it's kind of we're dumbing down America by going, just go, it's somewhere in there, it's somewhere on that row. Anyways, so everybody presumes that Hank at this point has given Bobby the black eye because he lost his cool at Megalovart and he yells at Buckley, the the the retail worker or whatever.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_02So somebody calls CPS. It ain't right the way he's treating that boy. Somebody calls CPS. CPS comes out to investigate, and there's like all these rules of how he can behave and everything. He's like, oh god, they're trying to take my boy. Peg, get my BCH headache medicine, get my BC powder, because that's how they used to treat headaches. It was not little tablets, but they used to pour it in water and mix it up and drink it. So it's BC headache powder that was a real or BCH, it was a real thing. And I'm just like, you said plop plop fizz fizz, and I'm just like, get my BC headache powder, Peggy. It's that's how fast it happened. As long the two minutes it took to explain, it happens this quick in my head.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Plop plop fizz was, oh, where's my BC headache powder peg?
The King of The Hill
SPEAKER_06Yep, yep. That makes me think of I think it was uh condemned, the video game back in the day. I remember very vividly the scene where you're you're first kind of introduced to the protagonist. Okay, he takes some aspirin, I think I assume it's aspirin, and he sets it, he's like at a bar. He sets it these two aspirin tablets on the or yeah, tablets, and he crushes them with his uh like the beer bottle or whatever it is, and then he sweeps it into the sweeps it off to the counter into the fucking bottle and then drinks it. Yeah, it makes me think of that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's the hangover that's the that's the old school like 1960s, 50s, 60s hangover solution.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02The last drink you have of the night, you crush like either two or four aspirin into it, you crush it, throw it in, and that's your last drink, and it's supposed to help with hangover the next day. That's like that's like the silent generation cure right there.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. They do actually have a supplement that you can take nowadays. That I can't remember what it was.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I think I take that. It's called being a teetotaler.
SPEAKER_06No.
SPEAKER_02That was supposed to be funny. Do you even know what that is?
SPEAKER_06Yes, it's where you drink tea.
SPEAKER_02It is not. A teetotaler is somebody who does not drink.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, a teetotaler is somebody who drinks tea.
SPEAKER_02Look it up on Wikipedia. It's somebody who does not drink alcohol.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_02You're a teetotaler if you do not drink alcohol. Because I have been a teetotaler since 2019. I'm getting ready to hit my seven-year anniversary of no alcohol.
SPEAKER_06Congratulations.
SPEAKER_02Thank you. Oh man, I ruined it for you. You sneeze blocker, you sneezus interruptus.
SPEAKER_06It's better than Coitus Interruptus. That's for sure.
SPEAKER_02Well, yeah. Or, you know, I don't know. Anyways, just gonna leave that one there. So, so yeah, I mean, that's like a silent generation uh cure for hangovers and stuff. And I know there's different supplements and all that kind of stuff, but just not drinking saves a problem too.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, yeah. But yeah, this supplement that I was thinking of, it basically um it reduces so when your body breaks down alcohol, part of the problem with the whole hangover thing is the byproduct of whatever your body is doing to break down the alcohol.
SPEAKER_04Right, right, right.
SPEAKER_06It builds up in your system and that's part of the what causes all your issues. Right. So basically, this stuff breaks down that byproduct, I believe, and helps your body flush it faster.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Um, which then obviously reduces the severity of your body's response to the byproduct.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and I don't want I don't want people hating on me, and I'm not being a dumbass, but I there is a serious when we talk about you know alcohol and everything. Now I've never had one. Never had one in my entire life, so I don't know the experience, but I've been around women who have. And I wonder if there is some sort of what's that word?
SPEAKER_06Correlation.
SPEAKER_02Correlation, thank you. If there's some correlation between women who get repetitive yeast infections and like the amount of yeasty alcohol they drink, I wonder if there's some kind of a correlation where that would encourage it. Because I've known women throughout the year and they've had um odors to them. And I remember saying one to one one time, this one female one time, I was just like, we're really good friends and we've known each other for like, I don't know, I think at that point we'd known each other like six or seven years. I'm like, uh, I'm just like, I don't, and I'm very PC with certain things. And I just looked at her and I said, redacted, I don't think you're um, I think your laundry detergent, there's something wrong with it because your clothes smell different. She looks me dead in the eye, she goes, Oh no, I have another yeast infection. Now I know she was a heavy beer drinker, so I just like I wonder if there is a correlation. I don't know, it'd be it, it would be an interesting and it would have to be a double blind study, but not with me. I don't drink anymore. But it was just it was when you were talking about the the products that break down, I was just like, you know, I wonder. And that's how my weird brain works.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I don't know. You know, it is possible, but I don't I don't I don't know as that, first of all, I don't know as the yeast would survive in your gut long enough to get to that part.
SPEAKER_02Well, I mean, like your body having that reaction, knowing that you're trying to filter out the yeast, would that then kick in whatever overproduction of yeast happens in females who get yeast infections?
SPEAKER_06Maybe.
SPEAKER_02Because, like I always thought, now I am not trying to be offensive, and and and I say this with all true sincerity, I've never had menstrual cramps, knock on wood, and I've never had a yeast infection. So I do not know what it's like. I do not know what the dietary habits would, but it is kind of a curious thought. Like, if this is something that puts your body into that overdrive, you know, then I don't, I just think not drinking is just better for everybody.
SPEAKER_06I mean, it might increase like your sensitivity. Also, it might do the opposite, it might make your body better at handling kind of like kind of like eating honey supposedly helps with um dealing with uh allergies. Yes. Because you're kind of quote unquote safely inje in getting the pollen to your immune system in a way that it isn't aggravating your immune system. Yeah. So although I don't know how valid that actually is, I've heard that it works.
Hangover Cures
SPEAKER_02I've heard people I have heard the theory that clover honey will help you with um pollen allergens if you are doing one to two teaspoons. Teaspoons, ladies and gentlemen, teaspoons. So, and not not ladles, uh, but I have heard that small ingestions of it and and whole will help you. Like if you do it first thing in the morning when your body's waking up and going through your functions, you have your water, you have your honey, you have more water so that it's circulating in your body. How true is it? I don't know because I do have allergies. Um, I have what they call adult onset allergies, which means, you know, the pollen count might bother you today, but it might be the weed count tomorrow.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And I know I know for me, I don't, I think there is some validity to it because I know that when I am actually when I was practicing it, I felt like my eyes itched less. And I felt like what you're hearing right now, and this is a dust allergy. Um, this is a reaction to dust and dirt. Um, I know it was not as severe as my mucous membrane going, you know what, bitch, you don't drink enough water, and then here you go, unrolling a dirty ass rug, and it flooped at the end and got you right in the face. And this is your punishment.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Which, if anybody doesn't feel like their body treats them that way, then you're not in tune with your body. You're no your body punishes you for things it doesn't understand. It is literally your body going, hey, stupid, you just did this a month ago. And this, did you think the result was gonna be any different in the same situation?
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Well, a lot of like food um sensitivities are kind of like that too, but people don't realize it. Like if you eat something and then all of a sudden within an hour, you're you you got a bunch of mucus in your throat or in your in your nasal cavity. Most people don't think, oh, I ate something, and that's what is causing this. Yeah. They're just like they just cough and I'm not drinking enough water. Yeah, or whatever. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I didn't really I didn't realize that plain potato chip with no salt was so spicy. That's why my nose is running. Yeah. And the reality is that your body's reacting to something, whether you've inhaled it, whether you've ingested it, whether you've rubbed it all over your face and it's dirty and stinky or whatever. Like when your nose is running, it literally is your sinus cavity trying to flush itself.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And it ain't got to do with anything with being sick or not sick.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um, it literally has to do with your sinus going, oh, I'm irritated, bitch. Get out.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But you so you said food, so today, even though we're a little bit into it, whatever, don't care. I mean, it's uh prerogative. Um I can do what I want to do. That's right.
SPEAKER_06No, you you can't really do that, Bobby Brown.
SPEAKER_02Not anymore, not at his age.
SPEAKER_06Some things you can't.
SPEAKER_02He's liable to break it.
SPEAKER_06What you want. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I you know what? I'll I'll say this for Bobby Brown. He's an entertainer. And if he can get down and do the dances and the sexual simulations that he did at 18, 19, 20, 21 that we see in all of his old school videos from 30 years ago, um, then I give him kudos. But I have a feeling if he got down, he'd be like, Gina, damn, help me up. Honestly. I think it's my neck, my back, my neck and my back. Whitney, I'm coming home. Oh I'm sorry, R.I.P. Whitney. Sorry, I saw the Whitney and Bobby show where he had to pull a uh a dehydrated turd nuckin out of her butt.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02Bobby! Bobby, help me, gotta get it out. And it's it's a sad situation when you are seeing addicts and their lives unfold on camera.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And they're all like, oh, it ain't nothing but a thing. Always dehydrated, dancing too much, having a good time. Woo!
SPEAKER_06It is like you mean you were having too much tiger blood.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_06Winning.
SPEAKER_02Winning. So, anyways, I love me some Bobby Brown, R.I.P. Whitney and Christina Brown, Houston, Brown, R.I.P. to them. Not picking on anybody, but I am saying I would love to see Bobby Brown do those dance moves again. I would like he's like 60-ish.
SPEAKER_06I mean, we got AAI.
SPEAKER_02No, I want to see him do it for real. I want him to go like down to like uh what's one of the local casinos here in Washington? EQC Redwind, yeah, uh Muckle Shooter, whatever. I'd love to see him do that and do like just just do a guest list of like 50 people, and I want to be there to see him do it. I want to be on that guest list and be like, Bobby, you and Sir Mixelot could do private parties. I'd love it. So he I mentioned Sir Mixelot because for the first time ever, and I do mean ever. I've had Facebook for uh since a year after its inception, so what, almost 18 years, almost 20 years or whatever.
SPEAKER_06Anyway.
SPEAKER_02I've had poop book, but anyways, um, and for the first time ever, Sir Mixelot came onto my feed.
SPEAKER_05Oh, nice.
SPEAKER_02But you notice how yesterday we were we were joking and laughing about buttermilk biscuits, and then this morning he comes on my feed.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_02So Google and AI stop listening to my conversations. Unless you're gonna pay me. And then we'll talk about that.
SPEAKER_06That's not gonna happen. The paying or the stopping listening. Both of those are.
SPEAKER_02I I literally feel like AI is so young. It's like a preteen going, you can't tell me what to do. My bedtime is not seven o'clock anymore. You can't tell me what to do. I'm gonna stay up to nine, and that's just how it is, missy miss. And if you don't like it, I'm gonna call the authorities.
SPEAKER_06And at grandma's house, we get no pow pows. I'm gonna give you a fucking pow pow.
SPEAKER_02It's surprising how many people actually know that reference. Yeah. It's really like, especially with the fact that I use a very calm voice and I go, listen, Linda, and I see the eyes light up, and I'm talking so many different age brackets. I would say a a large portion of people between 35 and 60 understand that reference. And it's like 15 years old.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But I did that the I did that uh a couple weeks ago to Miss Linda at Safeway, and I said, listen, Linda. And she goes, Oh, you don't want some grandma pow pows? Just the way she said a grandma pow pows. I was like, oh my god, you're so adorable, big hearts. Yes. I will even give her K-pop hearts. These are K-pop hearts. You see it.
SPEAKER_06Any fucking way. Thank you. I got your K-pop right here.
SPEAKER_02Anyways, so uh food. We we every once in a while we do this thing where we'll try a snack, right? So we did the Stranger Things stuff, and it was all right. Yeah, it was all right, but I will I haven't eaten them again. I mean, I would I eat them if they were free? Maybe. Because they definitely didn't taste like what they said they were supposed to taste like.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, it was kind of odd. I mean, thematically they were cool. Yeah, the packaging was cool.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely.
SPEAKER_06Um, but I mean they weren't bad, but it was one of those things you're like, what the fuck am I eating?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because you couldn't identify that flavor. And then when you read what the flavor was, it was like, uh, okay. So so just a hints up to food makers. Actual strawberries covered in chocolate, yes. Artificial strawberry flavor with chocolate, no, absolutely not, because it's that's the whole point is you get like strawberries actually have a slight tart kick to them depending on their ripeness. So that's and when you are doing strawberries and chocolate, you want them just about underripe in case it takes you a couple days to eat. And so then you're getting that super sweet, dark, or milk chocolate or the tart or just sweet berries. So you're mixing it up, so you're kind of getting a sweet, tart, juicy all at one. It's great. But in a cookie, no, they would have been better off going with like a cherry flavor. And I say that because they actually have shown the kids like in the show, like having Slurpees, which are, if you don't know, Icy's back in the day had two flavors, and that was cherry and blue raspberry. It's not like when you welcome to 7-Eleven, how many different iterations do you want? The last time I was into a 7-Eleven, they had like 15 fucking available flavors of Slurpee.
SPEAKER_06I've never gone over, well, since the cash machine, since I haven't been going to the ATM over there, that's where the Slurpee machine is at, over past that. So I have not gone over in that area.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I I haven't been, I haven't, I haven't been over there since I quit smoking. But the last time I was there, uh it was like maybe a month before I'd quit smoking. And I swear to god, they had five sets, and each set had three flavors to it.
SPEAKER_05Wow.
SPEAKER_02It just it felt like that, but I haven't had an icy, I haven't had an icy since the last time I went to an actual sit-down movie, so in at least six years, maybe seven, because I didn't I don't think we went to any movies in 2020 at all. So I think 2019 is the last time we actually went and sat down in a movie theater, and then I haven't had a Slurpee since uh probably a year before I quit smoking, so a couple years.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I can't remember the last time I had a Slurpee. The last time I had a drink that's approximating a Slurpee was when I was still in the army. Um we used to go to Sonic all the time. Yeah, and they have similar slushies, they have slushies too. Yeah, yeah. Um, there I I think there's more ice.
SPEAKER_02Oh, way more ice, but they also have I have your syrup count too.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um and I actually like the Sonic slushies better because you know, like if you take an icy and you take a slushie and you take a uh slurpee, set them all down for an hour and then look at them to what they've melted to, you're gonna have the most product in the slushie.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_02You know, the slush ice or how I think they go what the last time I had Sonic, which was a very long time, where I had one of those drinks, it was called a slushy. Yeah. But so, so, anyways, we do this thing, and so we've been seeing this thing in our local store, and we've tried the one part of it before, and it's kind of the interesting sweet not sweet thing. It's like I want to be a grand cracker, but I'm not. And that's of course, it's the 25th anniversary of Harry Potter. Did you realize that that's why they're doing this here? Like I did not, I I didn't either, and then we were talking about before, like, why is Harry Potter do oh my god, oh my god.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, because aren't they rebooting?
SPEAKER_02So they're gonna actually do a Harry Potter series, yeah.
SPEAKER_06HBO, it's gonna be available on HBO, and John Lithgow, I believe, has been set to be Dumbledore, okay, which is really exciting, and it's basically just the movies over again, but as a television series, which on the one hand is kind of interesting because they would be able to be closer to the books if you're doing a television series, if you are doing like Game of Thrones did where they take the whole thing. No, where they actually that smells really good.
SPEAKER_02It's an interesting smell. So what does it smell like to you? So, anyways, today we're trying uh we're trying the Harry Potter popcorn and Harry Potter cookies, because we've already had the Harry Potter graham crackers at the end of last year. And and they were they were they were uh they're good. They're they're addicting, but good. But not good, but good.
SPEAKER_06It smells kind of like oh, this is the popcorn, by the way.
SPEAKER_02Yes, so we're doing the popcorn first.
SPEAKER_06This smells kind of like buttered popcorn plus caramel.
SPEAKER_02Ding ding ding. That is an absolute winner right there.
SPEAKER_06But it looks like basic it looks like buttered popcorn. Maybe you can see a slight glistening to some of it, uh huh. But it's not as extreme as your typical caramel popcorn. It just looks like buttered popcorn with a little bit of extra.
Listen To Your Body
SPEAKER_02Right, but this but the smell you saw said is uh buttered popcorn and caramel. Yeah. So this is it's popped with butterscotch flavoring. Okay. And it gives it and it has a hint of brown butter and caramel flavor. So ding ding ding right on the nose.
SPEAKER_06Did you say brown butter? I did. Brown butter and caramel flavor. Are you sure it doesn't say brown sugar?
SPEAKER_02Brown butter.
SPEAKER_06What the fuck is brown butter?
SPEAKER_02You've never had brown but you've had brown butter. If you've had any of my cooking, you've had brown butter. Brown butter is where you've cooked the butter down where it goes to the brown stage, but not to where it separates it out to the ghee stage. So it actually makes it really, it really, if it's a savory kind of deepens the flavor. Yeah. Oh my god. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_06That is really good. That is like it's not as extreme as like having straight up caramel popcorn. Because that's like super sweet.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Although I'd be interested to see a comparison of the um what is it, nutritional data between this and regular uh caramel corn.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, for sure. Well, I'm pretty sure that car this would win.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Because caramel corn has somewhere between 18 and 24 grams of sugar in a serving, and this only has eight.
SPEAKER_06Okay. Yeah, this is like I mean, I like caramel corn, but I also realize, you know, nobody should be eating that shit.
SPEAKER_02Well, so if you have fillings, you shouldn't be eating it because it's way too easy to get old fillings stuck and loose. And um caramel is such a heavy sugar that it it actually will really get down in there and possibly. But it's a it's it's very light, it's not overly sweet, it's really good. I don't know what it tastes like exactly for you, obviously, different taste buds, but I actually feel like the brown butter mixed with the butterscotch flavoring is giving it a hint of cinnamon. Okay. Every bite I try has uh a hint of cinnamon to it, which is really interesting. But I like it because it's light, you know, a lot of uh, excuse me, a lot of flavored popcorn, you get these heavy pockets of seasoning.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02And it's like my fingers are clean.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, the you know, just by the very nature of how popcorn is, yeah, you're gonna get stuff that's gonna go into those little crevices and get stuck there, and then you have this pow in the kisser. But yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean, it's not it's not overly sweet. That's what I like. That's great. Yeah, this is great. I really expected it to be very bitter, to be honest with you, because um popcorn itself is inherently a savory, a savory neutral.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_02So if you cook just popcorn kernels, it has a very neutral but slightly savory kick to it. So then you add something where it's just like it's popped in this, not we've added that's the that's the thing, is it's popped in, popped in the flavoring, it's popped in all of that. It's not added after effect, yeah. Which is which is great. My grandfather would love this with some cream, some half and half.
SPEAKER_06So the only way he ever ate popcorn was with milk or half and half or cream to try and make it into a cereal, or that's just how they were raised.
SPEAKER_02And what's interesting about it is when you do it that way and you throw a little bit of sugar on top of it, it's just like you're having a corn pop.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Yeah, this would probably be really good with half and half.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm. But then I was thinking, you know, this would make a really great popcorn ball around the holidays.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_06Like the hairy popcorn balls.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no, that's really good. I didn't expect to like it like that.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. I figured, uh yeah, it's just more caramel popcorn, but no, this is pretty good.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because it's not sticking to the teeth. It's got a clean flavor and it's got a distinct flavor, which is really interesting. Like I said, for me, I can taste that distinction of butterscotch. I can taste the brown butter. I can taste that little hint of caramel that you get. And because of all that, I'm I feel like I am getting a hint of cinnamon. It's really odd. But it's very good. It also might be what I'm drinking, but I don't think so. Oh, well, that's why it would taste there is cinnamon in it. There is cinnamon in it. I love that my brain caught on to that. That makes and molasses, so that explains half the reason why it's so good. It's just like but it's not sticky. That's what I'm totally digging.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. I can't remember the dude's name. He does a lot of like he got famous for doing secret recipe type videos. Like TikTok videos, I believe. Um he looks kind of like Red Man. Anyway. And people were like, oh, it's Red Man. And then he had Red Man on one of his videos, which is. Because Red Man is like in his 50s and this dude's in his twenties.
SPEAKER_02Oh they look very similar. Yeah, you're not talking about Jordan though, right?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, yeah, I think that is who I'm talking about.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, Jordan, who's like 28 years old and he looks like he's in his late 50s.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
Bobby, Whitney and Sir Mix A Lot
SPEAKER_02Which we've talked about him before and just this weird thing that's going on with his generation of the way they're aging so fast.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, and he actually did a video about why his generation is aging like spoiled milk, they say. But yeah, he did a video recently that I saw um where somebody else had found this popcorn maker, and it's like this popcorn ball thing.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_06And basically you put some oil in the bottom of it, you put in the kernels, and then it sort of rotates. So it's like this pan that they're getting heat that is heating up, and then there's this bar that rotates around to sort of mix it up. And anyway, then there's this big clear bowl that goes over the top of it. Uh-huh. And then it has this tray on top where you put butter, and so it drizzles down from the heat. Um and anyway, he tried it and he was did one of the I he throws his glasses.
SPEAKER_02It's like this is amazing! My mom, my mom, uh, and unless she got well, when I was growing up, that was the popcorn maker we had.
SPEAKER_06Ah, we always had we had eventually we had one of the ones, the electric ones.
SPEAKER_04Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_06Where it's just kind of uh it's like an air blower or something like that.
SPEAKER_02Air pop?
SPEAKER_06Yeah. We had one of those. And then maybe twice my grandparents made it in, you know, those uh Chiffy Pop? Maybe that's what they're called. I don't know. The ones that came in a pan.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's chiffy pop.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. And the aluminum foil on top that got bulge out. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Best way that I thought of I'm wondering if it was my mom who had the popcorn dome. It might have been my grandparents, because my grandparents loved popcorn. But I thought it was my mom. But that's but that's I'm like, I know exactly how what you're talking about. Because um, yeah, you put all the butter you want on top and don't let mom catch you doing that. Because it was always like, why do you need that much butter when you already put oil in the bottom of the pan? Well, yeah, because when I was growing up, it didn't have the rotator in the bottom.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That's more of a more recent thing, but it was it was just it had the oil in the bottom, and you were just supposed to shake it every once in a while, just like the jiffy pop.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But my grandparents did jiffy pop, and I love jiffy pop, and it would blow up, but you had to wait for it to actually pop because then it was just slightly burnt and it was so good. It was like fire roasted corn. It was so good. I like burnt popcorn. I do not either do because it's like, you know, I like to pop my bags of popcorn now and then let it go for an extra 30 seconds, and then I add um a little bit of avocado oil onto it, onion powder, uh like a quarter teaspoon of salt, and then like a half a teaspoon of pepper. Ha ha. It's so good, it's so savory, it's so good.
SPEAKER_06But I don't think I've ever had like black pepper on or or um any like spices like pepperica or anything like that. Oh wow. I've had garlic and onion, I think.
SPEAKER_02I have had popcorn so many different ways, it's disgusting. I've had it with throwing milk nuds into it. Tried it after seeing that on an episode of uh King of the Hill. Put some milk nuds in there, that's wild. And I went, oh really? Did that, it's very good.
SPEAKER_06I've done it with um Yeah, malt actually might be pretty good on maybe. Um that's what's in the side of the milk dread is malt.
SPEAKER_02I've done it with cinnamon sugar, I've done it with peanut butter. Peanut butter is so good on fresh popcorn because it makes these clumps of sweet and savory peanut butter balls. Um I've done uh cocoa and sugar. I've done I've done a lot of savory iterations because I that's one of my absolute favorite ways to have popcorn is one peanut butter and popcorn because you don't eat it with your fingers, you eat it with a spoon.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_02Right? And then if you want, you can always throw some milk in there if you want. I don't, but I tried it once that way, and I'm like, nope, I just like to be able to, it's like so good. But my favorite way is the I know other people are gonna be like avocado oil. Yeah, well, it's a good oil for you. Avocado oil, salt, pepper, onion powder. And I don't mean onion powder, I mean like a tablespoon of onion powder. I love that shit.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's really, really good. So I'm going to give this popcorn, this Harry Potter 25th anniversary butterbeer popcorn. I'm gonna give it two thumbs up.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, it's really good.
SPEAKER_02I think so too.
SPEAKER_06I would probably well, I would definitely rather eat this than actual caramel popcorn, even though I like actual caramel popcorn, but because you could eat way more of this without it being a problem.
SPEAKER_02And it's not sticking to the teeth.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, or your fingers.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I feel like I could I could type on my mechanical keyboard and not have to go wash my hands first. I have nothing.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Nothing. Nothing. Fucking drive! Fucking meme. I drove, I worked for 12 fucking hours. I worked for 10 fucking hours. What did you need today? Because I have nothing. I love that whole, the actual whole one is fantastic. I love the fact that oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_06What was the restaurant that she wanted to go to?
SPEAKER_02Uh Wing Stop. Oh, good. Okay.
SPEAKER_06Sorry about banging my headphones on the mic, everybody.
SPEAKER_02Uh okay, so these are butterbeer fudge stripes. They smell so good.
SPEAKER_06Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god. Can I get that in a deodorant? Oh my lord.
SPEAKER_06They smell kind of like uh the vanilla wafers or whatever. No, not vanilla wafers. The sugar cookie, right? With some chocolate.
SPEAKER_02Okay. So they smell like oatmeal scotties to me.
SPEAKER_06Okay. And they're kind of That's an interesting.
SPEAKER_02It smells way better than it is.
SPEAKER_06But I like the fact that it's not overpowering. The flavor of this is pretty subtle. It's not a kick in the mouth of whatever.
SPEAKER_02So this is like somebody took a graham cracker and the goldfish Harry Potter butterbeer crackers and put them together with a little bit of white chocolate to me.
SPEAKER_06I very much like this.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm. It's not overly sweet. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, at first I was afraid that this was all just straight up sugar glazing. But it's white chocolate.
SPEAKER_02Um it smells quite sweet.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. But it's not. I mean, it's sweet, but it's not near as sweet as what it smells like it's gonna be. It smells really fucking good. I could fucking You could eat the whole bag. Well, no, I'd get sick, but I could fucking sit here and smell it all day, that's for sure.
SPEAKER_02Tape it to your lip. Yeah, this is uh it's it's it's amazing how well it smells.
SPEAKER_06See, now I want to get an actual butter beer.
SPEAKER_02Oh gosh, right. So what's interesting about this is per serving, it only has slightly more sugar than the popcorn.
SPEAKER_06I mean, from the flavor of the cookie, it does have very little, the cookie itself has very little sugar in it. So most of the sugar is probably coming from the the white chocolate glaze.
SPEAKER_02The fudge stripe.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Hmm. Mm-hmm. Well, here's the interesting thing. I think this, and it might be because I like coconut, right? But I have that yogurt that's vanilla and coconut, vanilla and co toasted coconut. I could open up, I could open up one of those containers of yogurt and eat like a dip all fucking day.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, it'd probably go go well together.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm. That would be good as a scooper for plain vanilla Greek yogurt, too.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm. That's amazingly good. But it it does taste different than it smells.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And it's not as sweet as it smells. Yeah. So that's pretty interesting to me. I like being pleasant, but again, I can taste cinnamon. I haven't looked at the ingredients, but I can almost and I so maybe that's a little leftover popcorn remnants. I don't know. I didn't do a whole glass of water like you're supposed to, because I don't care that much. I'm just like sugar getting in me. Because I drank a lot of sugar-free.
SPEAKER_06You didn't sniff some coffee and nausea and some ginger.
SPEAKER_02It'd be great dunked in. It would be really good dunked in that chai spice tea. Mm-hmm. Or in coffee or cocoa or milk, or as a scooper for plain vanilla soft serve. It's got a lot of applications you can use.
SPEAKER_06This would be really good in a blizzard, too. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah. Yeah. Um, but of the three Harry Potter snacks we've had, we've had the goldfish, we've had the cookies, and we've had the popcorn. For me. No. God damn it. Get yourself all tangled up there. Um, for me, I think as much as I like the cookies, I think I like the popcorn just a little bit better. It's lighter, it doesn't stick to me, it's not giving me that tail end sweet kick. I like that.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, as far as like what I could eat the most of, it would definitely be the popcorn. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um well, I can taste different layers of flavors on the popcorn too.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Which is really fun for me because, you know, when I was still smoking, I couldn't always be at flavor distinctual.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You know. But you should have to we should have done done your blood sugar before.
SPEAKER_06You should have done what?
SPEAKER_02Your blood sugar. We should have taken your blood sugar before and after.
SPEAKER_06I'm sure it has spiked a bunch.
SPEAKER_02It shouldn't be too bad. It was like 110 before I had so what you just had as far as sugar goes is you just had nine and eight of seventeen. So you've only had like 35 grams of sugar. I don't know if that's a lot for you and your condition, but I know that the I mean it's a lot since compared to what I've had since starting the Osempic.
SPEAKER_06I haven't had really any sugar. I mean, other than what your body converts regular carbs to.
Sneaky Snack Day..Oh Boy!
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Which is really interesting because it's like, you know, the the average adult should have less than 40 grams of sugar a day. So if you know what your carb count is, you you're probably riding right around that 40 for the day. Yeah. With your wrap. Well, and we did try we tried new chips today, too. New new Pringles today.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That was quite interesting.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, they smell different from how they taste, also. And although I'm not. Of course, also the Ozempic is messed with my stomach. So the we tried the smoky bacon Pringles. And they smell like bacon grease, but they taste. I think you were pretty close. I I think they taste like crab bake smells. Yeah, that's a good way to say it. Um, so not exactly like just straight up bacon. It's not a bad flavor, but it's not what I was expecting. That's probably the reason why I'm like not a fan, really.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Um so yeah, I I uh probably next time uh I tried to eat them, it will be a little different because of all my expectations are set now.
SPEAKER_02Well, and you ate them after you already had a sweet pinwheel lunch. Yeah. A pinwheel roll-up. And that might make all the difference too, because you might have still had some mustard or mayonnaise in your palate.
SPEAKER_06It had also the pinwheel was turkey bacon. So did it have any in it?
SPEAKER_02The pinwheels usually don't change what how flavors are for me unless they put sun-dyed tomatoes in it.
SPEAKER_06I think they were sun-dyed tomatoes because they uh it was a BLT, but there wasn't any wet, slimy chunks of tomato in there. Which that does I'm not one of the people that gets worded out by tomato texture, so yeah.
SPEAKER_02And and well, I had tomato last night, so I wasn't going out of my way to have more tomato today. I'm not a super fan of tomato. I like romas, uh, but like I had a serving of tomatoes last night, so I'll be good for like a day or two before I'd even be willing to have more tomatoes.
SPEAKER_06I like tomatoes.
SPEAKER_02If I didn't, if it wasn't for the fact that they're a nightshade, yeah, I probably would like them more. But they're not the same. Like when I grow them myself, yeah, I like them. Yeah, they're delicious. But commercially, eh. And honestly, I haven't noticed a great flavor difference between organic commercially grown and just regular commercially grown. I haven't. But yeah, what's what's interesting about these is that was I was like, oh, those definitely uh yeah, it smells like my grandma's grease grease bin.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You know, like did you guys have growing up, did you guys have a coffee old coffee tin washed out and filled with old grease?
SPEAKER_06No.
SPEAKER_02You guys didn't have a catch-all for your grease?
SPEAKER_06We did have a grease jar or whatever.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, like a grease jar, but well, we were poorer than you, so we used our old coffee cans to do it. But it definitely smells like bacon grease. And not and and and I'm not even I'm gonna say it this way: not even the good bacon like Oscar Meyer, right? Not even like Oscar Meyer or a local Washington one, Himpler's does the best bacon. Yeah, it smells more like Smithfield, so there it's really fatty and it's always old fatty. Um again, I don't taste bacon. I taste crab scramble.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's weird. I'll have to like take a picture and blow it up and see if see if it's cooked with some kind of a shellfish or something, because I'm definitely gonna say this is a not recommend.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. I mean, it like once again, it doesn't taste bad. It's just kind of off and weird, and yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because it does not taste it's it's almost I I think what it is is it probably would taste more like what it says it is if there was liquid smoke in it.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, maybe.
SPEAKER_02But it doesn't taste like it has liquid smoke, it tastes like it has um char in it, which is basically a liquid smoke, but not liquid smoke brand like off brand.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Which is like, mmm, I just licked some charcoal off the bottom of my grill. Sweet. That's why I use propane and propane accessories. Um, yeah, that's wild. It's it's it's again, it's not bad. It's just not um save your money, get the dill pickle pringles, they're way better.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, the dill pickle ones are pretty good.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because like with this, all I keep thinking is, you know, these would be kind of good to be a chip dip for egg salad sandwich, or can you actually use ching Pringles to dip?
SPEAKER_06Well, yeah, you just gotta be flimsy.
SPEAKER_02You gotta be delicate.
SPEAKER_06You need nah, fuck that. Just use ruffles.
SPEAKER_02Or or you could just crush them up on top of it, and you know. Um, these would probably be good for you know, like how they do like the macaroni and cheese bakes and they use chips on top. This would probably be good to go on top of that, mix in and go on top. But as for an overall snack, I think they failed.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I mean, I mean, I'm still I'm going to eat chip number four and five because I took them out and they're not bad, but I'm trying to see if I can catch. I thought it would have a different flavor after having the sweets, and it definitely does not, it definitely takes me right. Back to Dungeness Crab.
SPEAKER_06And wishing that it was actual Dungeness Crab. I wish this was crab instead of fake smoked bacon.
SPEAKER_02Here's the interesting thing about Pringles. You have one side that has nothing really on it. Then you have the other side where you can feel it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Now, if you take the seasoned side and put it flat down on your tongue, that is where you can taste butter, Dungeness Crab, and old bacon grease. And what happens with grease when it's put with other things, it almost gives you a um cheese flavor to it. Wild. I'm telling you, it's the craziest thing how we interpret flavors and smells.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Well, I will say you have a much better fucking sense of taste than I do.
SPEAKER_02You're like, it's stale potatoes, yay. And that's, I think that's the problem, is because there's so much artificial to it. Yeah. That it's giving it a stale flavor. Because they're crunchy, like they're supposed to be. Yeah. But the after effect is like that that you get like, oh, I should have closed those potato chips up last night. I don't know if you've ever had that experience or not.
SPEAKER_06No, I don't think so. I've had the experience of, oh, I should have ate those chips a week ago.
ButterBeer Snacks and Pringles
SPEAKER_02It's not quite that bad. Um, no, so for me, I'm gonna give it thumbs down on the Prinkles smoky bacon. Um God, it was on sale, or I'd really regret that.
SPEAKER_06And it would be all my fault because I picked them up.
SPEAKER_02No, I mean, they'll they will they'll still get eaten over the next few days. You'll take them home and you'll eat them just out of like, oh, I need a little something to kind of a little bit of salt to balance the sweeter, whatever. That's fine. Um, and it was worth trying because a lot of times Pringles hits it on the park. They're all dressed ones that they introduced like what two or three months ago. It's fantastic. It's really good. They're dill pickle ones, fantastic. It's so good.
SPEAKER_06I also really like their uh Philly cheesesteak ones. Yes, and of course, I love their sour cream and onion the cheddar and the cheddar and sour cream ones. I like all those.
SPEAKER_02I thought I saw a newer one that said honey mustard on it.
SPEAKER_06So and they have the hot ones one. I haven't I haven't tried that one.
SPEAKER_02No thanks on the hot ones. Hot stuff just tastes stale to me, so we avoid it. Um, but it might actually be really good in that iteration.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um, but yeah, but they have so many flavors that are so delicious. Um, so yeah, I don't know. Uh thumbs down on the smokey bacon. Um, but the hairy popcorn cookies, that's pretty good. But the popcorn's where it's at.
SPEAKER_06The Harry Potter cookies. You said the hairy popcorn cookies.
SPEAKER_02I remember some popcorn's where it's at, man.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Yeah, the hair, yeah. The cookies are really good. The popcorn is better overall.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm. Like, I feel for two meals I could eat this whole bag. And that is five servings, which is still this entire bag of popcorn is only 700 calories. The entire bag, if you were to eat it by yourself.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_02Now, the flip side of that is you would that's the only sugars you're gonna be getting because it would have your total daily limited sugars in it, it would have 40 grams of sugar in the entire bag.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_02So I have to retract, knowing how big that container is, I have to retract you've probably only had 32 grams of sugar between the cookies and that. Oh, it's interesting. I like it.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, it's good.
SPEAKER_02And I so kudos to you because I said you decide whether we're gonna do a sneaky snack take taste test today.
SPEAKER_06It smells really good.
SPEAKER_02I wish they had it in a fucking candle or an air freshener. Yeah. I mean let's be honest. If they just had plug-in ins for our buttholes that smell like this, everybody would be happy with as much siphard. Wow. I'd probably have some weird people wanting to eat my ass too.
SPEAKER_06Wow. That's all I have to say. Motherfucker. Wow.
SPEAKER_02Hey, it's not very often I get you, but you know. Yeah, I wish they had this in the candle. Yeah. Because I could sit there and take deep inhalations through my so my olfactory really caught that scent. And then I could drink water and I could probably convince myself that I'd had a sip of butterbeer.
SPEAKER_06Oh, yeah, like those actual fucking scented water bottles. Yeah, like well, the problem is with that, I would if if I were going to try something along those lines, I would want it to be something that is thin. In other words, it's one thing to have a scent thing that tells you makes you think that you're drinking lemonade when it's just water. It's another thing that tells you you're drinking a mocha. And it's water because the consistency of the liquid is different. Yeah. So it'd probably be kind of weird for it trying to tell you it's butter beer or like hot buttered rum or something like that. Irish coffee. Um, those would all be kind of weird.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Um it might cause some cognitive dissonance.
SPEAKER_02Well, and my partner already thinks I'm weird because I keep hot buttered rum mix around. Because like literally, it's just spices, butter, and sugar.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So when you're when you're really when you've really cut back on sugars like I do periodically, and you really need something, there is nothing wrong with a little spoonful of sugar to help the day go down.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I used to just straight up eat that stuff. Like it's the only way I have it anymore. My grandparents would make their own. Uh-huh. Um, as a kid, and they would like give me just the hot buttered water, basically. Everything except for the rum.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_06And I would drink the hell out of that stuff.
SPEAKER_02But it's better if you freeze it.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And then you get a spoon and you just eat it like ice cream.
SPEAKER_06Yep. Yep. Although it's got way too much sugar in it.
SPEAKER_02It it really does. So it's not something I periodically do. I uh like at least once every other year. Every other year, I'll have usually two tablespoons of it that way. Yeah. Otherwise, I don't touch it because it is very addicting. Yeah. But only Pacific Northwesterners, I think, would get that. The Beaver's hot buttered rum mix, frozen, eat it like ice cream. Yes.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I actually have some of that in my freezer. I think I bought it like two years ago, and it's still in there. I had a little bit of it and then I set it aside and okay.
SPEAKER_02You have to pay attention to it because it's like it's easy to overdo it. It is. Like Pacific Northwest, Idaho, and even into Montana, we get these lack of sunshine days, and so we're naturally vitamin D deficient. Well, when we're vitamin D deficient, we almost have a slight weather depression to us.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And so, what's one thing that we've learned as kids? This is the same conversation I had with somebody the other day. It's a pattern of behavior. You're crying, what do we do? You're upset when we're kids, what happens? I mean, well, maybe not you. I don't know. Because I have a feeling if you were crying when you were little, your grandpa probably would have picked you up and told you to clean up pig poo or something. You know, quick crap, go clean up the pig poo. But we learn as as babies, we learn if we complain enough, we get our way.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And it's something that takes a very long time to break that habit and that pattern. So here in Pacific Northwest, when we get depressed, we automatically have this thing that's in our subconscious. It's like, you know what? I'm gonna go to Starbucks and get a sweet treat. I'm gonna go to the drive-thru coffee shop and get a sweet treat. Something it'll help perk my mood up. We're not associating sugar and sweet with learned behavior.
SPEAKER_06I'm gonna go to the bikini barista and get a sweet treat.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_06That's a double whammy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because you gotta have at least 25 bucks to go there.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Uh-oh. It's four-ounce coffee. Just plain. That's$25.
SPEAKER_02Right. Nah, it's$2.50 for the coffee. Yeah.
unknownHa ha.
The Wrap Up
SPEAKER_02Just a tip. It's really interesting. I have we've been to many bikini barista places. Uh-huh. And there are some very, very intelligent people who are working there. Oh, yeah. And I think it's a misnomer that only slutty girls do this, that, or the other. Look, some of the smartest people on the planet are bikini baristas and strippers.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And some of the very smartest ones are the ones that run their own girlfriend experience place. Like, literally, they're like super smart. They're like, I'll try to charge$5,000 for Friday, Saturday, Sunday. I'm never expected to put out, and they pay for everything. I'm like, hmm. That's intriguing. Anyways. Sneaky snack choice. Harry Potter popcorn.
SPEAKER_06Yep.
SPEAKER_02Butterbear popcorn. Thumbs up for a sneaky snack day. Oh, yeah. You guys have a good one out there. Later.
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