The Indumbening Has Begun

 Jen and Dagda tackle the dumbing down of society—from YouTube's decline to the education system's failures to the rise of mediocrity. This is a sprawling, no-holds-barred conversation about the indumbening of humanity, and whether we can stop it before it's too late.

Plus: Liam Layton (teaching people to have a better relationship with food), The Hoof GP (Graeme) and Epic Rap Battles

#podcast #heresyourribbon #dumbingdowneveryone #useyourmind #thinkaboutit 

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Transcript

Welcome

SPEAKER_02 0:03

Welcome to Everyday Life. Thank you for joining our podcast, Conversations Over Coffee. My name is Jen. And I'm Dagda. And we're gonna hit you with the explicit content warning right off the bat. This podcast does include adult situations and adult language from time to time.

SPEAKER_00 0:22

I'm an angel. I never fucking cuss.

SPEAKER_02 0:25

Okay. Anyways, you ready to go?

SPEAKER_00 0:28

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 0:29

Alright, let's go. Fine by me because, you know, he's he's gonna schedule it for like for perfect time for breaking for us.

SPEAKER_04 0:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 0:44

Because, well, he he doesn't like the I don't think he wants anybody to hear his voice. Maybe he sounds girly.

SPEAKER_00 0:51

Probably. His voice will crack because he's still in puberty.

SPEAKER_02 0:57

When he's time to change. I know. He's such a babe. This is a little wee babe. He's a wee little lamb. Anyways, how are you doing today?

SPEAKER_00 1:07

I'm doing all right. How are you doing?

SPEAKER_02 1:09

I'm doing great because I did my John Cusack research and I just punched myself in the face like a ding-dong.

SPEAKER_00 1:16

Good job. I know. Do it again.

SPEAKER_02 1:18

You do it. Show me how it's done right. You do it yourself. Ah, I caught myself right here on my chin. On my chinny chin, chin. Because I went like I don't know why I did it like that, but I was like trying to do that celebration thing, like yay, and I just had my hands like that. That's not what it looked like. I understand.

SPEAKER_00 1:36

How right in the kisser?

SPEAKER_02 1:38

Yeah.

unknown 1:38

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 1:38

So I'll probably get a little bruised because that made my ear hurt. Like maybe in the right.

SPEAKER_00 1:42

I'm looking like ash.

SPEAKER_02 1:44

Oh, yeah. I did yeah. Oh we. Um, so I did do my research and I did Google about nepotism.

SPEAKER_05 1:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:54

About nepot babies. So you are right, according to what they can see, it's uh 16 to 20 percent of actors fall into what will be considered the nepotism category.

SPEAKER_04 2:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 2:07

Which, but here's the caveat they gave it's really hard to tell because that is just we only know about the ones that we're seeing in mainstream. And so it because there's like more than a million working actors in the world, and they're working actors, like so they're background characters all the time.

SPEAKER_05 2:26

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:26

But there is a perception, it's much more because the number jumps massively up. Um, so of all the actors in the world that are working, 80%, 86% of them, um, or 84% of them are considered working actors. And they know that there are Neppo babies in that. But as far as mainstream, what people see it's upwards of 16 to 20 percent. And there could be more, but there's no way to validate it because in the history of Hollywood and in the history of movies and entertainment, it's always been family traditions.

SPEAKER_00 2:59

Yeah, yeah. There's whole empires of my great grandpappy was in the films back in the 20s.

SPEAKER_02 3:06

Well, I mean, it's just like, you know, um Giada, her her grandfather or great-grandfather was a producer, De Laurentis. And we've all seen movies by him, which don't ask me to quote them now because I read it and I was like, Oh, I've seen that, I've seen that, I've seen that. But, anyways, so but she's a chef, so you know, her her family thought she would go into acting and producing, and she didn't, she's a chef.

SPEAKER_00 3:28

She's like, Fuck y'all, I don't want to deal with all that nonsense.

SPEAKER_02 3:31

But technically, she did what they wanted because she's on TV, yeah, you know, she you know, Giada Cooks is Giada Dia DiLorensis is a fantastic Italian chef.

SPEAKER_00 3:41

I also kind of wonder like how many this will be an interesting thought experiment for the future, although who knows? Anyway, um I wonder how many people who are current like YouTube celebrities are children of actors, um, and going into the future, I wonder how many quote unquote dynasties are being generated right now and have been.

SPEAKER_04 4:15

Right.

SPEAKER_00 4:16

Like how many because there's so many children that are actually on YouTube because their parents are on YouTube. Yeah. So I wonder how many of those people will then grow up to have kids and their kids will be in YouTube also.

SPEAKER_02 4:29

Well, there's there's gonna be that factor where the founders of YouTube want to retire. Because YouTube's now been around for what 20 something years?

SPEAKER_00 4:39

Um maybe 20 years.

SPEAKER_02 4:42

It's because well, Nice Peter and started dropping YouTube videos in like oh seven, oh eight, right? Yeah, so it so yeah, so maybe it's 20 years because I just know I know that Epic Rap battles just had like their 20th anniversary or whatever. Okay, because they're in their late, you know, late 30s, early 40s, and they've been doing it for a while. Yeah, so those are all interesting thought processes, but I think more predictably, what's gonna happen is I think you're going to see exactly what Netflix has done, and they have scouted out some up-and-coming podcasts. And you know, they're so they're they've got a whole line of podcasts. Yeah, they're doing these like this year of to see where the niche fits in. And the thing about it is is that I think podcasts are going to move back to what we do, where it's audio only. And and the reason I think that is because I think people are realizing we're still.

SPEAKER_00 5:36

I have a face for radio.

SPEAKER_02 5:39

I have a face for TV. How what I have eyes for TV for sure.

SPEAKER_00 5:42

I have a face for poem.

SPEAKER_02 5:44

However, I'd like to be able to walk out of my house, yeah, and um not have somebody go, Oh, you made $20,000 this year. Can I have a few grand? Like, no, look, you know how much money I've made a year podcasting? $40. Woo! It's a lot of money. Yeah. But it's it's not like the way people think. But that I do think we're going to go back to audio podcasts because I and where that's going to be the main staple. Because to me, a lot of it is gimmicky. I'm sorry. And and that I wish them all the success in the world, but it's gimmicky to me when I see somebody talking about conspiracy theories and they have a really big eyes. And don't you know they're all out to get us? And I'm like, you know, Mel Gripson did a movie called Conspiracy Theory. Like, you can't top him. It's just, you know, I don't know. But I I do think people are going to click back on to like it visuals are nice, but you really like what is important to you? Seeing the person you're talking that's that you're listening to have a discussion, maybe a conversation over some coffee or something. What's what's more important that you can see them and have this weird fucked up fantasy about them? Or if you leave a little mystery there and they can just be whoever you think they are.

SPEAKER_00 6:59

Yeah, when we start doing videos, I'm just gonna be a giant penis.

SPEAKER_02 7:03

I'm going to be a giant nipple. So you'll be a penis, I'll be I'll be a gooey duck penis, basically. Because that's what nipples look like is uncircumcised penises.

SPEAKER_00 7:13

What the fuck are you even talking about?

SPEAKER_02 7:15

You said you'd be a penis, and I said I'd be a nipple, but nipples to me remind me of uncircumcised penis.

SPEAKER_00 7:21

What the fuck?

SPEAKER_02 7:23

Look, man nipples are different than women nipples.

SPEAKER_00 7:25

Any fucking way.

SPEAKER_02 7:27

Ewed women nipples, yeah, whatever. Anyways, but um, I I just I don't think YouTube's going to be around another 20 or 30 years. I really don't. Um, and the reason I say that is they already started pulling back what they're paying people. Yes, they did a massive reduction, they've done enough of a reduction of what they're paying people that all of these people who have been quote influencers or informs informers or however you want to say it, they're going to other platforms. They've gone to Instagram. Oh, I can take this video I made 10 years ago, clip it into a 30-second or a one-minute thing, and boom, I'm making money.

SPEAKER_00 8:06

Yeah, I don't know. And here's why because the overwhelming majority who post videos on YouTube are not getting paid. They weren't getting paid before, they're still not getting paid.

SPEAKER_02 8:17

Well, okay, YouTube's not gonna go away, but their payment plan is okay. Their payment, them actually paying people, it's gonna go from because my understanding is they've basically cut the structure in half, they've cut the payment in half, they're gonna cut it in half again in five years and then half again, and pretty soon it's gonna be you can post all you want and we'll pay you $50 a week. It's going to be something like that.

SPEAKER_00 8:39

Maybe. Well, the problem with making a prediction like that is that um they will respond to the market, right? Right, and so if they are getting um basically outwatched by other platforms, which they're not even close at this point, yeah, no, um, then they will respond in a way that will boost themselves because they're a money-making company.

SPEAKER_02 9:08

Like, so I'm gonna be honest, if I had started YouTube and I hit my 2025 year anniversary and I was smart about my money and my investments, I'd be like, you know what? I'm ready to retire. I'd be ready to retire.

SPEAKER_00 9:23

I think the people who started YouTube retired years ago. I believe that they sold the because Google owns YouTube currently, but that wasn't always the case.

SPEAKER_04 9:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:35

And so, I mean, they've owned it for a long time, like more than 10 years, I'm pretty sure. Probably more like 15 years or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 9:42

Yeah, I just I think YouTube is so on that precipice of becoming the next MySpace. I I really do, because Vine went away, yeah, and then you've got what's what's the other streaming platform you got?

SPEAKER_00 9:55

There's Rumble, which is kind of never heard of it. You should have because it's very like right-leaning. Um uh TikTok is probably the most popular one other than YouTube, but it's all shorts, right? And then um, and then you got Instagram. Once again, though, it's all short video format. Yeah. Um, well, as far as I know, I I haven't been on their own.

SPEAKER_02 10:20

I think the longest video I've seen on Instagram is like two and a half or three minutes. Yeah, maybe.

SPEAKER_00 10:26

Maybe it makes sense because the attention span of most people, even myself, I find a lot of times, like a lot of the YouTubers that I used to watch had really long format videos, like they were at least 30 minutes long. And a lot of times now I don't have the fucking patience to sit through a 30-minute video. And this is something that's really, really interesting, or I'm not watching it anyway because I'm doing something else. Um, a lot of times I'll be like, okay, I got the gist. I'm switching to fucking something else.

SPEAKER_02 10:55

I just think from what I've seen, it to me, it looks like YouTube is grabbing a lot of different straws and trying to pull it in. They've been doing these podcasts now. They offer audio podcasts, yeah. They offer it on the go, they offer premium channels, they offer movies, you can rent movies, and it it just feels like they're so spread thin. And I'm not kidding, I spent one hour scrolling YouTube last night because I woke up, couldn't get right back to sleep. And it was like there was not more than four videos. I watched the entirety of it. And I was just like, I don't know if it's my age, if it's the fact that I don't find anything funny about somebody smacking a dog. I don't find anything funny about them finding uh a starving dog and then doing the arms of the angel, the Sarah McLaughlin song, which I can't stand when they do that, but them finding a starving dog. Is it dead poke, poke, poke with sticks? I can't stand, I can't stand what I was seeing. And it was a lot of that for me. There are funny animals and then there's animal cruelty. And there is, you know, YouTube, you're not paying attention because it's not funny to have a cat in a cage and then bang on the cage because the cat wants out, and I'm going to work now, honey. Clack, clack, clack. It's not funny to me. It's not funny when a cat falls from a second story. It's it's amazing when they land on their feet, but like none of that entertains me. The the the kids.

SPEAKER_00 12:25

And I don't get why you're seeing a bunch of those. I've never seen any of those videos.

SPEAKER_02 12:29

I just literally go to you, I don't even sign in. I just go to YouTube Shorts and start scrolling.

SPEAKER_00 12:35

Okay, well, that's half your problem. You're fucking getting a random shit instead of actually getting stuff that you want to see.

SPEAKER_02 12:41

But I think that's YouTube's problem because YouTube shouldn't have that kind of content on there. You know, I mean, that's a fair statement. It's just like if you want more people to use your platform, which they do, then then maybe you ought to think about what is considered animal cruelty, right?

SPEAKER_04 12:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 13:00

But the one video I saw that I watched the entirety of it, which I didn't think was child cruelty. I thought this was a brilliant experiment done by these parents. And it was a two, maybe three-year-old child, and the child was self-sufficient.

SPEAKER_04 13:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 13:14

The child got themselves up, they brushed their teeth, they did like their study work, they you know, like played their games, did their study work or whatever. They made their own food, they cleaned up after them. It showed an entire day of what this child has learned to do safely at their age.

SPEAKER_00 13:29

German or Japanese?

SPEAKER_02 13:30

Uh Korean.

SPEAKER_00 13:32

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 13:32

Korean or Chinese, one of the two. But to me, I'm like, that is amazing. How this video that I saw in the middle of the night only had like 2300 views. But I'm like, so are people in denial that a lot of other countries have more um not as self-sufficient children? Or do people not care to see children in their own home on their own property being safe and taking care of themselves the right way? Washing your hands after the bathroom, brushing your teeth.

SPEAKER_00 14:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:04

Like it was it was brilliant. This this it was so brilliant. But, anyways.

SPEAKER_00 14:09

Well, also, part of that is also gonna have to do with the nature of the kid themselves. Sure. And I assume that both of the parents are in that child's life, and they probably have grandparents and stuff like that that are taking care of them, also. Like that, all that stuff makes a huge difference.

SPEAKER_02 14:30

Yeah. I mean, it just showed that it was him and his mom.

SPEAKER_00 14:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:33

You know, but somebody was obviously filming, so it was probably dad. Yeah. I don't know. I for for you, you were a self-sufficient child by the time you were five.

SPEAKER_05 14:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:43

So for me, I would think that you could appreciate videos like that. But then maybe at the same time, it gives you some bad flashbacks. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 14:52

Probably not, no.

SPEAKER_02 14:53

I I think we are we are on this continuous slope to dumb down humanity.

SPEAKER_03 14:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:59

We're not on this slope of teaching children younger and younger and younger, how to be smarter, how to work fair, how to be fair, how to be self-reliant. Because if we had been raising children like they were raised in the olden days, where you were an adult by the time you were 12, yeah, uh, you know, maybe some of these kids wouldn't be having these videos on the YouTube going, give me my money, bitch, 13 years old. Uh, you can't tell me what to do. Oh God, I just want to punch their fucking face every time.

SPEAKER_00 15:32

I think a lot of that is Western civilization, right? Because most of the Middle East is still operating in the fucking still from the same perspective as people from the Middle Ages, basically.

SPEAKER_03 15:45

Maybe.

SPEAKER_00 15:46

Um, and the same with most of Asia, right? Um, they're still, well, both of those groups still have very strong family units to begin with.

SPEAKER_04 15:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:56

So the mother and father are in the lives of the kids. Um, the grandparents are almost always going to be in the lives of the kids actively, right? Because they're basically their daycare.

SPEAKER_03 16:09

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 16:09

Um, because in many of these places they still live in family groups, not just the mom and dad, but also the grandparents, oftentimes. Um, and sometimes multiple generations are living in the same house or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 16:25

Um it's it's it's just amazing to me, and maybe it is just Western culture uh because I've actually seen it in the store where maybe six, seven, eight-year-old is slapping mom, slapping dad. Get me my candy, give me my stuff. And it's just like, if I had done that to my mother as a child, kapow, the belt would have come out.

SPEAKER_00 16:48

Yeah. I I remember I would have got beat right there in front of God and airborne in the middle of the fucking store. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:56

And your grandfather or I would have pulled your pants down to embarrass you even further.

SPEAKER_00 17:00

My grandmother actually said that once. If you embarrass me, I will embarrass you to be right in the middle of the store.

SPEAKER_02 17:08

It it's it's very funny. I had like two different types of grandparents. I had on my dad's side, I had my grandmother who was severely diabetic and had severe skin issues. And so she hid away from the world, but she became this fantastic baker and cook and canner. And you know, she could see, she she did a fair amount of sewing and all of that, and she was just a happy joy to be around. Excuse me, and then you gotta excuse me.

SPEAKER_00 17:42

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 17:44

And then you've got my mom's mom, who, you know, she was a gardener, but she was also a very, she wasn't a vain woman, but she was really pretty woman. And so, you know, and she had a very nice figure for her age, and you know, I can remember how she would kind of flirt, but she had this thing where she had a lead foot. So my mom's mom uh, she wore v-neck tops all the time, and she's very much built like I am, but she had these amazing bras where it just looked like she had a shelf underneath it. So they were constantly almost up to her shoulders, and it was just like right there.

SPEAKER_00 18:23

She had wood platforms in her bras.

SPEAKER_02 18:25

Yes, I'm telling you, that's what it looked like. It was just like, and she used to laugh. I remember she used to laugh at her chest a lot, and she'd be like, Look, with her bras, she could put a dinner plate on it and let go, and they wouldn't fall. Uh, you know, so I had two different types of grandparents. I had the one that was a little funnier, you know, and a little more fun-loving and just kind of a little more like racy, I guess you would say.

SPEAKER_03 18:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 18:53

And she, I mean, I'm the only grandchild who ever got punished for anything, it felt like, but whatever. And then I had the other kind, and my mom was kind of interesting because there were times where I'd prefer to be around her mom than my mom. But my but my grandmother, my mom's mom was very much like, if you make me spank you in public, that's gonna embarrass me more.

SPEAKER_03 19:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:20

And I remember she swatted my little sister on the butt once in public, and it just sounded horrible because my little sister was in a diaper, but she'd grabbed something and almost got her fingers pinched, and it freaked my grandmother out. And I still remember, and you you know my siblings, and so my little sister, her little her lip all pout now. And I just thought, oh god, because when she whapped that butt, she had a diaper on.

SPEAKER_00 19:46

So it made a lot more noise.

SPEAKER_02 19:48

It made more noise. It sounded like my poor baby sister had a lot of horrendous spart out.

SPEAKER_00 19:53

And just startled her more than anything.

SPEAKER_02 19:55

Yes. And I just thought, oh god, I don't want anybody thinking I just pooped my pants. I, you know, I'm only we're literally 17 months and five days apart. That's all it is. And I remember those things. And and you know, so, anyways, watching YouTube the other day, I'm just like, if more people would raise their kids to be self-sufficient, we wouldn't have this. You wonder, would we have what we have going on? You know, like these 14-year-olds and 17-year-olds that are stabbing each other and shooting each other.

SPEAKER_00 20:26

I mean, we've always had that.

SPEAKER_02 20:28

We've always had it, but it seems like it's a very big surge the last since COVID. It's seems like it's a massive surge.

SPEAKER_00 20:34

I mean, I don't know how much of that is literally it happening more and just it being reported more because we have cameras everywhere. Everybody's walking around with a camera in their pocket. Yeah. Um also, though, the school system is partially to blame for this sort of stuff too. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 20:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:54

Um, especially with the like no kid left behind. Literally, you can't flunk, you can't flunk a grade, you get moved from the city.

SPEAKER_02 21:02

Yeah, you you have a friend who's a school teacher, or two of them are two of them school teachers. And how how are they dealing with the fact that they cannot legally flunk a child anymore that is failing in their class despite efforts and helps?

SPEAKER_00 21:15

I don't know. I haven't talked to them about that particular aspect. Um mostly it's been like disciplinary stuff, although the so the one is more like a special ed teacher. And then the other one, she she makes sure that she deals with the kids in such a way that they respect her. And so as a result, she doesn't really end up with disciplinary problems in her classroom because she doesn't tolerate stuff and they know it.

SPEAKER_03 21:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:44

And they respect her and she respects them because of it. Right. And so there's a mutual respect thing going on with her.

SPEAKER_02 21:51

So she's kind of set out look, this is how we're gonna do it.

SPEAKER_00 21:54

Yeah, because a lot of times, especially kids that have issues in school. Um, a lot of times it's more because they don't they haven't been disciplined, right? They haven't had limits set for them. And so as a result, they're kind of they don't know where they're at, and so they'll push more. They'll be more likely to push your boundaries if they don't know where they're at.

SPEAKER_02 22:20

Yeah, like especially these kids where their parents are like absent or their parents are like I D G A F, I D G A F. And and it seems like that's it seems like that's the mode of most parents anymore. Uh that's all I see, you know. But anyways, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:39

So as a result, the person who is giving them sort of a discipline structure within the work are more likely to be the ones that they're gonna respect at the very least, not necessarily like you, but they'll respect you and they'll behave properly, let's say. Um, whereas the if you're kind of wishy-washy, then they're going to fucking hate you.

SPEAKER_02 23:01

They're gonna walk all over you.

SPEAKER_00 23:02

Yeah, yeah. They're not gonna respect you.

SPEAKER_02 23:05

It's and and it and it and it goes to show literally, and and I hate to say this because I like to think there's a lot of hope for humanity. I I am there's somebody at my job who is his father has told me he is of a lower intelligence level, which I firmly believe if you keep telling somebody that you're dumbing them down. So I feel the opposite. I feel this person has a very good potential in customer service because they are able to take in the information. What they're not able to do is be held accountable. And I will quote this individual, and they have told me I don't have to be accountable for any of this shit because I'm not smart.

SPEAKER_05 23:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:52

That comes directly from his parents.

SPEAKER_05 23:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:56

Because his father will tell you that he's not smart either. And that's because his ex-wife, his ex or whatever, this child's mother was very abusive, very physically and emotionally and mentally abusive. And I fear some other kind of abuse as well. But I remember the first time him and I had a conflict, and I looked at him and I said, and he wanted to explain to me how stupid he was. And I looked at him and I said, That's not how this conversation works. That's not how this works. I am giving you respect of somebody with above average intelligence, whether you have it or not, because I believe you have the ability to think smarter and act smarter than you're acting now. You know what his motherfucker says to me? No, my daddy told me I don't. So I I I fear we have this dumbing down. It's kind of cool to hear we at least have a couple teachers out there that are able, but I think for the most part, there's a lot of teachers who've given up.

SPEAKER_00 24:58

I mean, the I won't say the system, but it is kind of the system, is set up in such a way that they can't really deal with stuff. Like I saw this video with this teacher, and she was talking about how a bunch of her students couldn't read the assignments that she was giving them. And I want to say she was like an eighth-grade teacher or something like this. And it's like, how the fuck did you get here and you can't read this shit? And she was talking about the length she had to go to to ensure that they could actually do the work.

SPEAKER_03 25:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:38

Um, because she had to basically rewrite the shit so that they could read it.

unknown 25:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:43

So they had to dumb it down in order for the students to be able to actually do it, and then like they can't fail. So, like there was another video that I watched recently where this lady was like, she wanted to become the um new head of education. And the first thing she was like, Okay, a we're gonna bring back zeros. So if you don't um do a task, you get a zero on it. Now, if you don't get do a task, you get a 55%.

SPEAKER_02 26:16

Because you showed up and tried.

SPEAKER_00 26:18

No, just you automatically get a 55%, regardless of what happened, which basically makes it so that you can't fail because it it's part of the no kit child left behind. But I think the purpose of no child left behind is that every child should be properly educated.

SPEAKER_03 26:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:37

And instead, what is happening is they're failing forward, they're basically just being moved to the next grade. Which you can't be held back, you just get moved to the next grade regardless of what you do, which means they don't have to do anything and they'll get a certificate of graduation. I can literally do nothing and still pass.

SPEAKER_02 26:55

You know, I remember when I was a kid, and I went to a local elementary school not too far from where we're at right now, and I could remember on field day, you had first, second, third, and fourth place. And everybody else, you got two participations awards. One, you got one participation award for showing up and participating in field day. Okay, right? And then they always made sure you got one more award as long as you were in fifth place. You got an honorary award for one thing. We had sack races, we had track races, we had all kinds of different, you know, like relay races. Yeah, we had all of this for kids. And you know, hop, skip, and jump. Yeah. And it was like, but the real but the like the five main ones were the relay race, the race around the field, four laps around the field, um, the relay race where each team member did a lap around, um, but everything was limited to four laps because, you know, we're kids. Yeah. Um, and then, you know, you had the sack races and they divided it by grades.

SPEAKER_04 28:03

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:04

And I remember, and I probably still have every I might still have one or two of them of the three years I was at that school. Um, field day participation, you know. And I think I was in one relay race and we placed fifth or something. I don't remember. But, you know, and I remember we had some teachers and there were some kids going, oh man, I really wanted an award. I really wanted a ribbon. And you know what the teacher said to us? Work for it, earn it.

SPEAKER_05 28:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:32

And that's the thing, like when the first time I experienced somebody who is 20 plus years younger than me going, Oh, cool, check out my kid. Look, uh, look at all these awards my kid got. What's going on? Oh, field day. Oh, field day, oh, what did he place in? Oh no, he just showed up to sign up and he he placed dead last, but he got it because he participated in the relay race. Yeah, he participated in the single running, he participated in the long jump. And I'm like, what what did he place? Oh, dead last. And I'm like, are you kidding me? Now their opinion is that it wasn't fair when they were growing up, they didn't get some kind of an award. I'm like, everybody got a ribbon for participating in Field Day, and then the people who excelled at it won the awards. I I don't get this.

SPEAKER_03 29:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:22

And her response to me was that's not fair. So again, we're rewarding mediocrity.

SPEAKER_05 29:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:30

And I can't figure out, and honestly, I can't figure out if it's Gen Xers' kids, so the millennials that are doing it to the kids now, or if it's the Gen Xers who we grew up without a lot, who, you know, got hit with all this Paris Nicole fancy pants people, and we should get paid oodles of money for being stupid.

SPEAKER_00 29:50

And yeah, I can't figure out where well, yeah, Jackass and the fucking Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie show.

SPEAKER_02 29:59

I mean, Jackass, they earned their money, okay? Anyone who's going to let a snake bite their balls, they earn their money.

SPEAKER_00 30:06

But they were doing fucking stupid bullshit and they got rich because they were doing stupid bullshit.

SPEAKER_02 30:12

But Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie, they literally were just standing there going, Ew, oh my God, I am not cleaning a date there. Like, I believe I just read an article within the last six or seven months talking about Nicole Hilton, not Nicole Hilton. Paris Hilton doesn't regret the things that she did, she was younger. She just wishes she'd done things differently. And, you know, I can kind of I can kind of understand that. You know, she's got two or three kids now, she's married and all that, and she earned her own money that she used. She didn't take daddy's money. She did earn her own money, but at the same and the same thing with Nicole Ritchie was yes, even though she's Lionel Richie's adopted daughter, she had to earn her own money.

SPEAKER_03 30:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:51

So I don't know. I don't know where I was talking to a coworker maybe three weeks ago, and I'm like, when did we decide? Was it the government that decided? Or was it us as a society where we just went, you know what? This shit's too hard. I'm just too tired. Fuck it. Let's dumb everything down.

SPEAKER_04 31:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:11

Everybody wins. I and trust me, that little rant came at work when somebody came in and said that they were going to steal the items they were taking because, and I quote, they was living hard life and they earned it. So they literally stole, literally stole two suitcases, the big suitcases, worth of clothes and then a basket full of drinks and snacks. And they walked out the door. I'm doing it because I earned this. I deserve this. This is mine because I'm living a hard life.

SPEAKER_00 31:44

I'm about to be living a harder life because I'm about to break both your legs.

SPEAKER_02 31:48

Yeah. Well, you know, I mean, it just, I can't, I just feel like society has just, I can't, I can't figure it out. So I pose that question: is it the government or is it society? And then you see these government officials going, this one time in Cambodia I ate doll, and I got me some amoebas in my head, and vaccines aren't real. Like, what the hell is wrong with people?

SPEAKER_00 32:19

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 32:20

There is literally somebody in the health organization who literally has eaten either monkey brains or dog brains or whatever, and it's got the there's a certain disease you get when you eat.

SPEAKER_00 32:32

Oh, prions?

SPEAKER_02 32:33

Prions disease, yes. So that's their excuse for everything that happens, is they're in the beginning stages of prions. And I'm just like, okay. And can you find those articles now? Maybe, because they were it was talked about three or four years ago in like USA Today on CNN. It was all over. And I was just like, this motherfucker wants to run our basically our CDC, and he thinks vaccines aren't real, they're no goods. You gotta build up here. We gotta do herd immunity.

SPEAKER_00 33:02

I mean, that is a thing.

SPEAKER_02 33:03

It is it is a thing, but it's just like everybody should be part of curator meeting, even our our 91-year-old old boss older boss.

SPEAKER_00 33:10

I mean, here's the thing herd immunity, you don't get a choice, you're fucking doing it.

SPEAKER_02 33:15

Yeah. Uh I have no desire to go to any kind of a public germ orgy. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_00 33:22

I mean, that's just dealing with children.

SPEAKER_02 33:26

And I don't have children for a reason. Yeah. I don't know. It's it's just so crazy. I I don't, I don't know. YouTube kind of worries me because I don't see it being it first of all, it wasn't what it used to be.

SPEAKER_03 33:39

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 33:40

What it used to be used to be so easy because you so you could go in there and you could type one word and it would you would find enjoyable videos. You would have the options of educational or funny or you know, maybe spooky or whatever. And now it's like, what was the one? There was a one where it was like me creeping into a room on a spider. I think it's gonna be funny, and here they are in Australia showing these big ass spiders. Okay, and I'm like, that's not funny, they're really huge in Australia.

SPEAKER_05 34:13

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 34:16

Look, I know big when I see big.

SPEAKER_00 34:19

Praising people. That's what she said.

SPEAKER_02 34:23

But uh no, but I honestly I worry that YouTube is just, I don't know. I don't sign in because when I was signing into YouTube, all of a sudden my Google had all this crazy crap on it, and I was getting flooded with scam emails, and I just like uh like my partner complains all the time about oh my god, all this spam. Stop signing into YouTube, you dingling. I swear. It's I swear it's like they're out to get us all.

SPEAKER_00 34:56

Yeah, I don't know about all that.

SPEAKER_02 34:57

It but it does feel like, first of all, it does feel like YouTube has not gone in the direct path of where they originally were. And there and things do are subject to change. But what but you know, the first thing I look at is literally the the pay scales for the creators, how much it's downsized. Yeah, and I can't tell if that's because of their going, you know, it's really not worth that content, or because there's so many creators, everybody's getting a little bit, which hasn't been my experience at all. No matter how many listens we get on our stuff, we haven't seen anything from them at all.

SPEAKER_00 35:32

Yeah, I mean, at this point we're still small, small, small, small potatoes. Um, I think probably what's happening right now is they have so many fucking people that they were paying that it's gotten kind of diluted. Also with the it's kind of like the Hollywood thing. There's millions and millions of people fucking posting videos all the time.

SPEAKER_03 35:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:55

Um, and a bunch of them are hoping to become the the next fucking, I don't know, hot XQC or whatever. Um, yeah, and so they're they're hoping to become the next Mr. Beast, and so they're fucking trying all kinds of crazy shit.

SPEAKER_02 36:11

Yeah, it's like who's the who's the kid? I see speed, is that what his name is?

SPEAKER_00 36:16

Oh yeah, yeah, speed, yeah. Like I don't understand streamers. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:21

I don't have any idea how he got popular.

SPEAKER_00 36:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:24

Do you?

SPEAKER_00 36:25

Um, I'm not sure. I think he was like originally like a I don't know. I I think he was one of those TikTok people, or not TikTok, Twitch people, uh-huh. Um who got popular for playing video games or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 36:41

Okay, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 36:42

I think that's what he is. Um, and then he started posting to YouTube and basically they can diversify by posting stuff in multiple platforms.

SPEAKER_02 36:51

The only thing I've seen from him has been him watching videos and giving money to people. It's the only thing I've seen ahead.

SPEAKER_03 36:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:00

So I'm like, I don't understand how that, like, what? And then of course, Mr. Beast. I mean, he tries lots of different things. Uh no thanks to his chocolate bars. Ugh. No, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 37:10

Yeah, I've not tried any of his food products.

SPEAKER_02 37:13

Very chalking. Very but you know, he he he's a he's a big re risk, big rewards kind of guy, too.

SPEAKER_05 37:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:21

And you know, and that's great. But other than that, I I mean, bad lip reading, I thought was hilarious. But when I tried to watch some more newer bad lip reading, it was just like this is so stupid.

SPEAKER_00 37:33

Yeah, it's been a very long time since I watched Bad Lip Reading.

SPEAKER_02 37:35

It's been a long time since I've watched anything good on bad lip reading. Um, and then of course, you know, Epic Rap Battles is fantastic.

SPEAKER_00 37:43

Yeah, but they're kind of annoying because they only put out like maybe one video a year. Uh I guess most of their stuff, most of the content that they're actually creating, they're doing through Patreon or something right now, and have been for several years. But most of the stuff that they have been posting recently has been like shorts, yeah, and like behind-the-scenes stuff. Kind of like behind-the-scenes type stuff. Yeah. Maybe they'll do a new rap battle, but it will be kind of like an ad-lib, just them, no, no makeup, no, no production.

SPEAKER_02 38:19

Yeah, because I've seen a couple of those like one-minute videos on the Facebook where they're literally going through, they're like, Oh, do you remember this? And they're kind of doing the lyrics back and forth. Yeah. And then they have a quick like discussion about it, like, oh, I should have put this here instead of that. So I've seen that, which I love seeing that creative process. Yeah, I think that's great. Like, it's so funny. Like, if anybody saw our creative process, they probably would laugh because it's like, I know this episode we were gonna talk about a certain thing, which we'll do next episode or the episode after or whatever, that's fine. But then it's just like then we started talking about this, like the streaming, the YouTube, the dumbing down of America. And I'm sorry, I hate to say it, but I think it is the dumbing down of America.

SPEAKER_05 39:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:01

Although I have seen some guys and and and gals in UK in their early 20s, and I'm wondering if they're getting dumbed down over there too.

SPEAKER_00 39:08

Yeah, it seems like there's a lot in Europe also. I think that the effect is the worst here. Yeah. Um, as far as the dumbing down. Now there's other problems that are worse in Europe, um, in like France and Germany and England and the Netherlands and whatnot, than what there is here.

SPEAKER_02 39:26

But yeah, well, it's it's just we'd had a conversation, I think, that we kind of put back in the vault, and we were talking about like so, even though other countries are having a lot of problems, because they they literally in Europe they have a war going on. Yeah, on that continent, they have a war going on. And, you know, we talked about like marijuana money. And, you know, I I'd go nobody knows, nobody knows, and that's the same thing over in the UK. Why are you popular? You just got your teeth. Nobody knows why. I just straightened out my crooked teeth and now I'm popular. And I say that because I actually heard a uh a care and I say character because I think there's a lot of people who are on reality TV and I think they portray themselves a certain way and have this certain persona versus the way they really would be behind closed doors. Because, you know, you catch it every once in a while. Like you'll be watching something and and you'll just see it where they're just like, like one person tries to portray themselves on a certain show I watch, and I'm not gonna name names because everybody will know who this knucklehead is. And she's just like, she's constantly like, I'm a very nice person, I'm a very nice person, I'm a very nice person. And then you see this clip that's kind of like behind the scenes where she's just going off on a friend of hers that she's had as a friend for a very long time. And she's like, bitch, you don't know me. I'm here to win money. Get the fuck out of my face. I don't want nothing to do with your problems. That's your fucking problem. Why are you causing problems with people? Why can't you just shut the I mean, and she's going on this whole diatribe about it's your fucking fault for being sensitive to somebody calling you a bitch because you're being a bitch, and it's just like, what's happening? But she's dumb. I'm sorry, she's dumb.

SPEAKER_03 41:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:23

Because it's everything, everything in the world is her fault. So I and I do so. I get kind of concerned that YouTube is dumbing things down. Our government is dumbing things down, our local government is definitely dumbing things down.

SPEAKER_05 41:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:35

Especially when you talk to some of these people who like, look, I'm not saying addiction's a choice. I will never say that. But you have you have a choice how much you fight for yourself.

SPEAKER_05 41:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:47

You have you have a choice to decide to get help. And if help's given to you, then be thankful for it. Because they're so every day I'm at work, they come in and they're like, I'm so excited. I got my $800 check today. All I gotta do is do this. This is like, oh my god. So I do worry we're dumbing our society down.

SPEAKER_05 42:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:07

And I don't think that YouTube in the current, like its old format, was fantastic. It was entertaining, it was educational, it was funny, sometimes sad, but now it's just like spend money with us, or we're gonna bombard you with ad. Spend more money with us and rent the movies here. Don't get a streaming service where you can watch the same 50 movies we have. It's just very annoying.

SPEAKER_00 42:28

Well, a lot of the stuff that happens on YouTube isn't directly controlled by YouTube. Okay. And what I mean by that is YouTube doesn't control what's getting posted there. YouTube also doesn't control who's watching what. I mean, they kind of try to through their algorithm by feeding you the sort of things that you want to see if you're logged in. Right. Um and then sometimes YouTube will throttle the exposure of certain things.

SPEAKER_03 43:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:01

Um and then try to push other things. But at the end of the day, it's still you choosing to watch a video or not. Yeah. Um and it's still people choosing to post videos or not.

SPEAKER_03 43:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:14

Um, and so a lot of the times the stuff that's popular is well, first of all, it's based on what has been fucking uploaded.

SPEAKER_03 43:22

Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_00 43:23

YouTube isn't fucking creating its own content, it's farming that out to other people. Um the and then like the more people watch a video, the more YouTube is going to show it to other people. Um generally speaking. Sometimes they'll throttle stuff, apparently. But um, so when you're seeing stuff like nuisance streamers fucking going around doing bullshit, you're getting showed that because first of all, somebody uploaded it, and second of all, a bunch of people have fucking watched it, and YouTube's like, well, maybe more people will want to see this.

SPEAKER_02 43:58

Well, what's very annoying. Me about YouTube and even certain platforms, and I'm not gonna say because I really don't want to get the account suspended, is they're like, so you're on our platform, pretty much nothing's gonna happen unless you or your friends share the material, and then it'll only be shared to people you know or they know unless you want to pay us for advertising. Yeah, and that is the biggest load of shit because it used to be you would get shares, and then you would kind of get then once you hit like a hundred shares, they'd be like, Oh, we'll throw this in once every hundred clicks, or like, and now they don't do this. And the the one that really annoys me is the one that keeps trying to get me to do advertising, and it's just like, okay, well, what would happen for my budget? Literally, for my budget, our budget for a week, we don't need it because we get three times that amount of views on average versus paying for them what they would get. Yeah, organically. So, because when you pay for it with the budget, it's they're like six to nine if you commit to paying this same price for 30 days. Six to nine people, I get that every day, anyways.

SPEAKER_00 45:10

I remember watching a video where this guy, so this one content creator was basically exposing this other content creator for nonsense.

SPEAKER_03 45:23

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 45:24

Uh basically, this other content creator was um they got some sort of deal from some advert some direct advertisement deal with some companies, and they basically fudged their own numbers through directly through um manipulation by fucking basically they paid to have their videos advertised, right? So they paid YouTube to give commercials of their fucking videos to other people. And then what happens though is that YouTube counts that commercial as a view of your video. Okay. So even if you don't click on the fucking commercial to go watch that video, it still counts it as if somebody had watched at least part of the video.

SPEAKER_03 46:19

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 46:19

And so they had inflated numbers of how many times their videos were being viewed, and then they got paid based on those inflated numbers.

SPEAKER_03 46:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:28

And so the the feedback loop actually paid for itself. Normally, this would be a money losing proposition, but based on how they charged the fucking peer person they were going to be advertising within their videos for, yeah. Um they basically made it so that they earned tens of thousands of dollars.

SPEAKER_04 46:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:49

In spite of the fact that the videos, even the videos that they did after this and placed a commercial because they did a commercial themselves within their own video, the people that were getting tracked as having watched that video, the vast, the overwhelming majority of them just saw the commercial from the YouTuber, not the actual commercial that they were supposed to be producing.

SPEAKER_04 47:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:17

And so it had this kind of false basically, they were falsifying the actual results. Of course, the companies, because he did this to several companies. The companies could then, through their ad agency, see kind of like click-through rates and stuff like that to purchase or whatever the products. Um, so several steps down the road, they could see that in fact there this advertisement this advertising uh campaign was basically a waste of money, but it would be several steps down the fucking road.

SPEAKER_02 47:59

Right.

SPEAKER_00 48:00

Um, and basically this other dude was exposing the guy for doing shitty behavior, basically.

SPEAKER_02 48:08

Well, it's it's one of these things like so you you tell this about what's going on, and then I see stuff that's going on, and I'm just like, listen, this is why my who I follow is at a very minimum. And it's it and I respect anybody who has that same back to me because it's just like I want authentic, real people. There are a couple of people I used to follow and I had to quit following them. Um, because I was just like, wait a minute, you're you're living in an $800,000 house in your city, and you're like getting depressed when people don't send you gifts. It was a bad week. Nobody sent me anything, boo.

SPEAKER_00 48:57

And then there's another one where he's like eat the rich, meanwhile, I live in an $11 million mansion.

SPEAKER_02 49:03

Well, he's supposed to be like, like, how do you deal with mental health and everything? And like he didn't do anything, he hasn't posted any real videos for a while. And people started pointing out, but we're seeing you around town, we're seeing you, you know, do this, that, and the other, and you're partying, you're drinking, you're doing everything you said. And then it's he posts a video recently going, Oh, yeah, I've just been so depressed. And I'm not saying he's not depressed, but it's just like this is just too coincidental that you, somebody who has been doing this platform for all this time trying to tell people how to find a different way to deal with mental health issues and talk about it. And then all of a sudden, everybody in this town you live in for the last 11 months has seen you out partying and drinking and you fucking married and you skirting around with girls. Come on now.

SPEAKER_00 49:51

I mean, that is one thing with YouTube and all the other social media outlets. There's no vetting of these people for being an actual expert in anything.

SPEAKER_03 50:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:02

And I mean, a lot of the people aren't out there claiming, but there are some people that are claiming, oh, I'm a fucking PhD and blah, blah, blah. And they're not. Uh, and then they're talking about stuff, but a lot of them aren't making those claims.

SPEAKER_02 50:16

Yeah, no, the ones I really like are the ones that will sit there and tell you, I am not an expert at this. I'm telling you what works for me. So if this works for me, share your ideas with me. One of the people I really love, um, and he's like very educated, he's like you smart. It's disgusting. His name's Liam Leighton, and it's so funny. So you've seen the plant slant before, you've seen who he is before. And he has his own, he's gone to college, he's worked for college, all that. He's uber smart, but like all he tries to the only thing he's trying to do is to teach people how to have a better positive relationship with food because eating disorders is obviously a mental health disorder. And because so many people are getting ridiculed for it, like they don't seek help. And the mortality rate for people who deal with anorexia nervosa is super high.

SPEAKER_05 51:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:11

And like there was a gal, like he just posted a video of a girl who posted a video, and she's just like, I'm trying to understand how to make food my friend, you know, and and like she's like she looks, she looks one step above the grave. And she's talking about, yes, I measure everything. Yes, I count my calories, because then I feel like I'm in control of my eating and I can see where my reward is. And there's all these negative, you know, like eat a burger, you know. And Liam's just like, stop. Why do you she is sharing something that works for her, and this is part of her recovery. So my favorite thing is when he talks about these people who post things that are negative and nasty, whether it's on a fat person, a skinny person, black, white, brown, anything in between. And he's just like, okay, fuck you by, you know, because he's just like, my whole platform idea is to treat to teach you to have a better relationship with food because this is what worked for me.

SPEAKER_04 52:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:10

And if you've seen pictures of Liam over the years, like he was not the healthiest person. Now he makes fun of himself where he's not healthy, and he's learned over trial and tribulation what works for him for you know, um, moderation. And he's just like some people it's counting calories, some people it's doing this, some people. So I love Liam. And the and then the only other one that I really care for anymore is the hoof GP. Because it it is a learned skill. It is something where it's, you know, you have to be taught by a farrier how to do it, you know, a certified farrier. I don't know what they call it as far as what he does here in the States. If you take care of animal hooves, that's what you do. You know, there's another guy who's a US guy. I don't really like him because I'm just like, you literally are copying Graham because Graham's from Scotland and he's you know, he's very all about it. You know, I'm pretty sure in the US we're so fucking lazy they've probably made a machine where you just have your cows stick their feet in there and you go grind it, and then if they find problems, they probably just send them off to the slaughterhouse. That's how lazy we are in the US, honestly.

SPEAKER_00 53:22

But, anyways, um also there's 10 billion cows in the US. Just kidding. Not anymore.

SPEAKER_02 53:29

You had Carnegie Gasana today, not anymore.

SPEAKER_00 53:31

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 53:32

But that's my point, is that you know, we it feels like we're so humanity is being so dumbed down, and it feels like everybody on a lot of these platforms are so fake. Like, I don't, you know what I mean? It's just like I wish that YouTube literally did some authentication on some stuff because it's just like and the amount, the amount of AI content is killing actual creative content makers. Yeah, they're not more and more. And and like for all these people going, oh yeah, you can't tell it's my AI content. Uh guess what, buddy? I most certainly can if they only have two fingers and they're given a high five. You know, I'm just saying, if they have fingers that are as long as from their elbow to their wrist, fingers, not fingernails, you know. Gotta think about my pillow AI. But, anyways, I don't know. I worry, I do worry we're dumbing down society. Yeah, and it's like, don't dumb down humans, we're stupid enough.

SPEAKER_00 54:32

The instupiding, the indumining has begun.

SPEAKER_02 54:35

Oh my god, that's true. The indumining has begun.

SPEAKER_00 54:39

Yeah, fuck.

SPEAKER_02 54:40

I hope everybody has a fantastic day. That's a scary thought.

SPEAKER_00 54:45

Uh what was that dude's name? Fuck, I can't remember his name.

SPEAKER_03 54:49

What did he do?

SPEAKER_00 54:50

He used to be a football player, he's an actor. Um, Terry Cruz. Terry Cruz for president. Only if he buys a monster truck, though.

SPEAKER_02 55:00

You what, say that one more time?

SPEAKER_00 55:01

It's it's a fucking idiocrity. Oh god. Because he's the president. Yeah, yeah. And he has this monster truck.

SPEAKER_02 55:08

You know what's funny is I mentioned idiocracy the other day at work. I was working media with one of my co-managers. And I and I said to her, I said, Oh, this, you know, we were talking about the movies we were showing and how good they were and weren't, you know, like we were rating them and like, oh, have you seen this? No, I haven't. Oh, really? It's about this, and da-da-da. And I was just, and I was just like, I'm actually kind of surprised. Um, I said, I haven't seen a copy of Idiocracy. She goes, Yeah, I haven't for a while either. I'm like, that's because people are using it as a playbook.

SPEAKER_00 55:43

This is my manifesto.

SPEAKER_02 55:45

I think it is for a lot of people. I think they think it's a future telling story. This this is how it was for my grandparents back in the 90s. Anyways, I just I hope we stop dumbing each other down.

SPEAKER_05 56:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:02

I really I want people who find us to understand that we we might goof a lot on each other, but we also love to do research. I love to do research and we love to gain knowledge. You know, you don't teabag, you just drop knowledge in Lyftin packages. That's right. But yeah, it the the whole idiocracy thing was just so funny at work. And I was like, it's bad enough. It's bad enough that I have to accept mediocrity as the new norm.

SPEAKER_05 56:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:38

And they that individual is highly intelligent, and they're like, Yeah, that's why I get excited for three and four-day weekends because I get to go home and be normal and I don't have to play stupid. Yeah. Anyways, I hope everybody has a fantastic day. The undummining should stop, but I think you're right, the undummoning has begun.

SPEAKER_00 57:00

The indummoning.

SPEAKER_02 57:02

Indummining.

SPEAKER_00 57:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:03

Damn it.

SPEAKER_00 57:04

Undummoning would be the smarttening.

SPEAKER_02 57:08

When will the smartening begin?

SPEAKER_00 57:11

Um, after everybody's dead.

SPEAKER_02 57:13

Or after the indumining is done.

SPEAKER_00 57:16

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 57:17

Either way. I hope everyone has a great day.

SPEAKER_00 57:19

Later.

SPEAKER_02 57:20

Bye.

SPEAKER_01 57:25

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