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Celebrating 50 episodes! Jen and Dagda dive into Washington State's incredible film history—from iconic movies like 10 Things I Hate About You, Twilight, and An Officer and a Gentleman to hidden gems like Say Anything, The Hand That Rocks the Cradle, and Harry and the Hendersons. They explore over 163 films shot in the Pacific Northwest, debunk filming location myths, discuss why filmmakers loved Washington in the '90s (Starbucks, creature comforts, lower costs), and share personal connections to famous filming locations.

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Transcript

Welcome

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Anyway, you ready to go? All right, let's go.

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The way we talk about our immune systems, like they are well, they are our superheroes to a degree.

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Yes, I'm my immune system superhero.

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You can call me immuno boy.

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Yeah.

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Not man. You notice how I didn't say man.

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Uh-huh.

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I chose my words carefully. I'm a real boy. Yes, I know you're a real boy now. It's okay.

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Yeah.

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How are you doing today?

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I'm doing alright. How you doing?

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I'm doing fine. Other than the pollen in the air, I'm doing fine. Yeah. You know, I just I had that sinus infection, got over the sinus infection, and then all the pollen in the world said, you know what, Jen? We're gonna complain out. So it's really gross because I can actually smell the pollen. How about you? How are you doing with your cold?

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I'm doing alright. I mean it's I'm starting to get past it. I have coughing fits, but it's mostly coughing up phlegm and stuff.

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So at my job, when you go in sick, it's a it's a it's a beastly hell world of hell. So did they ask you if you were sick at all in the last week?

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Um, some of the people did, but none of the bosses did.

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What'd you tell some of the people to stay away from me?

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I said, yeah, I think it's my uh air conditioning unit blown out.

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Fucking Which I I do truly firmly believe that that's what you thought it was the first three days.

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Yeah. It wasn't until like the fifth day or so. I was like, okay, maybe I do actually have a cold.

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Yeah. Well, I know that I picked you up from work on the um like the third day because I had an errand to run over in that area. So I I remember picking you up from work and I remember texting you, going, Hey, I'm gonna be over there. You want to ride home? You're like, yes. And I was just like, You're that enthusiastic about a ride home? Yeah, you're not feeling good, and I know you're not feeling good. Yeah, but we're not gonna tell my partner that you're I mean, it's pretty much over now. Yeah, and he doesn't come into our office really.

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Yeah.

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Usually it's usually he's only in here like twice a week. So, and that's usually like Wednesdays and either Saturday or Sundays. So not days when you're in here.

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Yeah.

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Because you know how he feels about germs, so yeah.

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Anyways, um one of the bosses said to me, 'cause it basically after the fact is like, Oh, our other boss is super sick, so you better not be sounding like that when she comes back.

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Yeah.

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I'm like, Well, she's probably the one that got me sick because she was in the hospital by the time I even even had anything going on.

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So Yeah.

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Well not the other way around.

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Yeah. Yeah, because the whole week before, the whole week before, from what I've heard from some of your coworkers, the whole week before, she was really tired and she'd actually stayed home a day or two or left early a couple of days just because she was just like, I'm not feeling right, I'm not feeling right. And then so yeah, probably. It's it's a really it's a it's a really it's a really tricky thing. Yeah, because at my at my shop, it's the same policy. You don't you don't come in if you're sick. But here's the thing we work on a point system, yeah, and it takes six months for that shit to go away. So, and I told you a story about a previous person who'd worked there, how they'd gone through that whole rig of the roll. The truth is always somewhere in the middle. Yeah. And if you're being told, because I would a thousand and hundred billion percent stand up for anybody who got fired if they were told to stay home while they were sick, whether they had the time covered or not, because it's like a point system based on PTO time, right?

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Yeah.

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I would a million percent be like, oh no, this individual at my shop walks around and is just like, if she hears one cough, she's like a cat running away from a cobra. What are you doing? Are you sick? Get the fuck out of my shop if you're sick. So I would stand up for him because you know, we have the right now at my shop, we have an issue with one person that every time they earn a minute of PTO time, oh, I'm sick, and it's so dramatic. And and it is and it's so dramatic. Well, this person's gonna get finger banged for fucking making my boss sick because my boss got hospitalized. And uh, you know, and it's funny because they're going to get blamed because they came in to work, went to that individual's office, closed the door, and went, I think I'm sick. So I feel sorry for that individual when the boss gets back. Yeah. But, anyways, it's just that time of year. Allergies are running rampant. We've got a couple of people who keep coming to sick sick to work and they're spreading stuff around.

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And uh immunity is fine.

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Well, well, we got I know of at least three people right now at my shop who are sick and they're actively sick and they're working, and they may cover their mouth. One wears a mask and the other two don't. One always covers their face and one does not. And I literally looked at this individual who does not cover their face, who is sick, and I'm just like, you're not supposed to be here. You're sick. I don't have any more time. I don't care. I don't I don't need points, I need my job, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, I get it. Are you running a fever? No, my fever broke last night. Cover up, don't care. So they put a mask on when other bosses are around, but if I'm around, they just make sure they're 20 feet from me. But I caught him coughing on Saturday. And he's doing this, not covering his face, but he's putting his hand underneath his chin, and he's going, huh, huh, huh?

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What the fuck are you doing?

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Yeah, exactly. Anyways, well, I'm glad you're feeling better. Sounds

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like it's just kind of going around everywhere. I know there was a big uh not epidemic, but there was a big uh bum rush April, May time of uh influenza type B uh was going around Pierce County. So, you know, anyways, I'm glad you're feeling better.

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Yeah.

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I mean, you do uh like I said, I said earlier while we were so off mic that like if your voice gets any deeper from this, I'm just gonna like pretend like you're James Earl Jones.

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James Earl Jones Jr.

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That's right.

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You come your father.

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Right. No, you gotta go. You gotta go.

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Imba, this is Mufata. This is Mufata. I am Mufata, the circle of light commences. Anyways, um Lion.

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Right.

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So here's the interesting thing. So this episode we're doing right now is our 50th episode for season two. Halfway through the year. We're halfway through the year, halfway through the season. Yeah. So we're we're gonna do something kind of interesting. I think is kind of interesting, because like I was showing you it to you and I couldn't even write everything down. I was just so blown away. So one of the things that we were known for for a very long time, and then it kind of died back and is now kind of coming back again, is filming in the state of Washington. And I was actually really shocked because I thought about 50 movies had been filmed here.

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Yeah.

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And the list I saw, which is not a complete list, was already at 163, whether the full movie was filmed here or whether part of the movie was filmed here.

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Yeah.

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And I think the biggest shocker was for years growing up, well, Brains, everybody had said the original Red Dawn with Patrick Swayze was supposed to be a film in Spokane, Washington. It was not, it was filmed in Vegas, in Nevada, in Nevada, uh near Vegas. But it was actually filmed in Nevada, and it wasn't Calume, Washington, that they were supposedly this town was, it was Palo May, Colorado. And it's like, I think I finally caught that the last time I re-watched the original, yeah. Which I I have a little bit of a challenge watching because you know, well, Charlie Sheen's sober now. See Thomas Howell got old, and Patrick Swayze died.

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Yeah.

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And so did Dean Stockwell, of course, from the original. So that was that was kind of shocking to me when I was like, what? Because I was we I was asking you, can you think of anything like right offhand?

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Yeah.

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And of course, what is the most popular? I think this is probably the easiest trivia question ever. What is there's two, three very popular movies that were filmed here in Washington that most people would say it's filmed in and around Washington.

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I can only think of two other than the one we just were talking about. And that's The Hand That Rocks the Cradle and Ten Things I Hate About You.

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Ten Things I Hate About You. Well, here's the thing: when you ask people, the three most popular movies people will say, number one is always Ten Things I Hate About You. Stadium is iconic. Now, let me tell you something. But I think high school is pretty cool. It's yeah, until you're actually in it. The ceilings are low, you feel like there's a giant sitting on a box, like that's too heavy to be sitting on a box. It's it's really the stadium itself looks really cool. The visuals is beautiful.

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Yeah.

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Um, but that is one thing I noticed about stadium was like the ceilings aren't that high when you're watching teenage boys raise their hand and touch the ceilings flat.

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I've only been inside the building itself one time, and that was a long time ago. And I think I only went into the hallways. I don't think I ever went into a classroom or whatever.

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I didn't go into classrooms, but I went through the hallways, and of course I worked in the cafeteria area of several years ago. So I don't know how it's changed since then.

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Yeah, because I think they renovated it since that was like they were at they were if I was in the army at the time, because I did come and hang out with a friend who was living in Tacoma at the time, and we went to Stadium High School specifically. Um, but I don't remember if we went because it had like an open house or something like that. Yeah. Or if it was when I was still in high school, because that was in the 90s, right? So it would have been.

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So they started renovations a few years after Ten Things I Hate About You, which came out in uh 99, I think.

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Okay.

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So, but you might have gone to the open house because they did hold an open house there so everybody could see the school as it was before they started renovations, because I was actually working uh in that cafeteria at the tail end of renovations. Okay. So it was it's pretty interesting. But so there are the three films, and depending on what generation you are, Gen Xers almost always say ten things they hate about you is the first one they think of.

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Yeah.

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Uh millennials will say Twilight, because it's based out of Forks, Washington. Yeah. But boomers, almost all boomers say an officer and a gentleman. Because it was filmed in Port Townsend with Richard Gere, and he was the Hobba. I had an aunt who, although she was uh per played for the other team and she was a wonderful lesbian woman, she drove up there. According to her, she drove up there and met him when him he was, but she didn't want to meet Richard Gere, she wanted to meet Lewis Gossett Jr., but she met Richard Gere.

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Yeah.

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And I'm just like, okay. I mean, Richard Gere used, I mean, I don't know, he's a good-looking guy. He's not my cup of tea. I'm more of a I like the Mickey Roart kind of guy, rough. Not after a surgery rough. Yeah, not that kind of rough. Not not that kind of I don't, you know, I like they they really screwed him on that one, man. Like, like, like a giant sat on his face that was too heavy to sit down or something. I don't know. Anyways, so those are the three that most based on just like what each generation would. Now, Gen Z, um, it kind of goes back and forth whether they would say Twilight or they would say 10 things. 10 things, yeah. Because they're they're that cusp generation, they're 80 to 84. So, you know, a lot of them probably would say 10 things. Well, I think most of them say 10 things, but some of them do say other things. And I just think that depends on where you are. And I've had people say to me several times, you know, Twilight was filmed here, and I'm just like, ugh, you know, part of Twilight was filmed here. Well, look at that's how you cough, right? I need to have you teach that to some people at my job.

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Uh really self-exploratory, right?

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Um, so yeah, but so I so I looked at it, and then like I said, it kind of blew my mind because I didn't, I thought there was maybe 50 movies. Because when I was a kid uh in in in Pierce County, my my mom worked in Pierce County, she did a very specific job. Um, but I remember they were filming movies here, and she was so mad because they were filming and it slowed her down to get to work. It was such an inconvenience because they would close the roads and it was just go film somewhere else. Yeah. I love you, mommy. Hi, mommy. Hi, mommy. Just sorry the other day. Um, so, anyways, uh, so I love you to death was filmed in 1990 in the north end of Tacoma and in downtown Tacoma. And of course, it's got Kevin Klein in it, and it's super great. Okay, it's super hilarious. It's based on a true story. Ten Things I Hate About You, The Hand That Rocks the Cradle. Um, this is one I didn't know because I was so hyper focused, but then it's like when on reflection, you know. And that is, of course, my favorite movie of all time, Say Anything, 1989. Had shots here in Pierce County and shots up in Seattle. Like, I know exactly where some of the shots are too. And I'm like, oh my god, I know that, I know that. And like sometimes I get really excited and go, Oh, when I was working lawn care, I sprayed that lawn, you know. So just like the hand that rocks the cradle, yeah. I sprayed that property as well that it's modeled after. I sprayed that lawn for like two years before they put it up for sale. So that's like really interesting to me. Um, let's see, uh, Born to Be Wild. Um, oh, and a really good movie I really like, a lot of people don't like because it has to deal with abuse, is the Jennifer Lopez movie, Enough, with uh is it Billy Campbell that's in it as the abusive husband, and she fakes her own death to get away, and then she ends up killing him uh legally. It's so good when she meets it um it's so late, it's so great. Um, Three Fugitives was filmed. Uh Union Station was done some of the shots down in Toma. So that's pretty interesting. Um, but you know, you've got other stuff like uh war games,

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had some stuff filmed here.

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Okay.

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Uh you of course, big iconic when you're going a little bit more south, right before you hit that Thurston County line, you've got Rose Red that was filmed all over Pierce County, including a really small town by the base called Tillicum.

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Okay, yeah.

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Yeah. So I've actually seen the outside of the house live and in person uh that it's based off of. So that's really interesting. Um, and way back in the 50s, there there was a war movie called To Hell and Back that was filmed around here. They just did a it's supposed they're considering it a mainstream movie. It's something called Passenger. I didn't read much about it, but they just wrapped uh filming up in Seattle.

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Yeah.

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So that'll be interesting to see more. So yeah, so I was doing this research because I thought, well, this is really cool. Because I in my mind, I'm like, there's there's 50 movies that were filmed here.

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Yeah.

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And it's our 50th episode. Well, this is great. No, there's so many. There's so many, but I did write some down. And and so um when you go on to Washington filmmaking, when you go to look at like uh film movies that were filmed in Washington, you can go look at the the filming office and it'll and it and it puts out a list, and it's just like these ones were also made here as well, or filmed here in part or whole. And so it does this rotating list, but right now what they are publicizing is hey, filmed in Washington, is a movie uh with Joel Edgerton. It's on Netflix right now, it's called Train Dreams, and I'm just like, okay, I've I've heard of that, it's about the expansive and expansion of the railroad.

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Okay, and a guy's is a movie for Sheldon.

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Sheldon! Or or bogey. Um, then Penelope, which I actually really like that movie with Christina Ricci. I don't know. It's a girl who's got a pig nose on her face and she's trying to find true love. Uh, anyways, uh something called 213 Bones, um, Going Home, Safety Not Guaranteed, Midday Black, Midnight Blue, Three Busy Devers, which I'm not gonna lie, I'm sure it's a great film, but it looked like a total CNX Tuesday fest, or like so I didn't bother reading about that one. Um Different drummers, lucky them, something called Laggies that has Kira Nightingly in it. It's a rom-com movie. Okay, but Kira Nightingly was here in our state, and you didn't even get into liquor toast for you. I well, I don't know a nicer way to say you would have totally worshipped her. Uh at Middleton, East of the Mountains. Uh, and that one, East of the Mountains, has Tom Scarrot in it. Okay. So that's pretty cool. Uh, The Architect, something called Touchy Feely. Yep. Uh, The Details, okay. Uh, John Carpenter's The Ward, uh, Fat Kid Rules the World, Mind Games, which is a psychological thriller, West of Redemption, something called Seven Minutes, Tim Travers, and Dreaming Wild. So those are all like when you go to the filmography office, it's it's always like, hey, these were also filmed here. And it based on what I could read, they rotate them out every so often. Because uh it'd just be great if it was easier to navigate the website better, but it's really all about the website itself is all about uh selling itself why why you should film here and not there? And and and we'll save 10% when you sign up now for three weeks or whatever.

SPEAKER_03 17:44

And it's just like Yeah, I did just see a news article I told you about the other day where they were like, uh, is Tacoma becoming the new Hollywood?

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Yeah, yeah. I think I you know, honestly, I think it's because there's so many vacancies downtown. I mean there's that. I mean, Tacoma is, I think, isn't it the second or third biggest city in Washington? Or at least in western Washington, you've got Seattle. I mean, I don't know. I have to look at the numbers a little bit better because I know in the city of Tacoma, without the base, I believe there's roughly 210,000 people now. And Seattle is like half million, I think.

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I think Tacoma might be the fourth largest.

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Yeah.

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I know one of the I think it's Ocann.

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Uh-huh.

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I think that's the second largest city.

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Well, I've said on in western Washington, nothing.

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But yeah. Um but I think some of the um like Bellingham or whatever, some of the other cities that are up around closer to Seattle and north of Seattle, I think some of a couple of those are actually the second and the third or whatever largest city in western Washington, let's say.

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Maybe I've been up to Wellingham Wellingham. I've been up into Bellingham and it really was like, I didn't actually see that many people where the house that we were moving for a military member, um, which is so hilarious. Uh, that move was just hilarious all all around. But like there were 10 people on their mile and a half long block. It was like literally, it was just salt and peppered in the cul-de-sac. They were at the very end of the on this street, it was basically a dead-end cul-de-sac, whatever you want to call it. And they were they were in the middle, and then there was one to each side, and then there was seven salt and peppered up and down the rest of the road. But it was like a mile and a half long drive.

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Yeah. It was like Well, one of the funny things about Washington is the area that's referred to as Cascadia.

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Yeah.

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Which is basically I believe the southern limit of it is Portland, Oregon. But basically everything between Portland and Seattle is basically one continuous city.

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Yeah.

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Um, because there's the population is so dense through the I-5 corridor there that essentially You don't even have to be on I-5 to get from Seattle to Portland, Oregon.

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You literally can take surface streets.

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Yeah, all the way. Uh there's a couple spots where it thins out a bit. Yeah. Especially towards the southern part of Washington. Yeah, when you get a little closer to Vancouver, Washington. Yeah. But for the most part, it's one continuous city. And it goes up farther than Seattle, even.

SPEAKER_05 20:27

Yeah. Uh like people do not realize that Bellingham is so much further north of Seattle than you think. I think it's like another hour and a half or two hours north of Seattle.

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Yeah.

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It's a long frickin' drive. Uh, the shop I worked out of was in uh Lakewood, Washington. And so we myself, my partner, and then uh uh Mr. P, who rode with us that day for to do this job uh a couple of days before Thanksgiving, we went up on a Sunday. We left at 6:30 in the morning. We did two 10-minute stops and still didn't arrive at the house until almost two o'clock.

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Yeah.

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And it was, and that's on a Sunday.

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Yeah. It was it was it was terrible. But um also it's kind of funny for people from like Europe or whatever, and they're like, why do you have to own a car?

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Right.

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Because the states in the United States are pretty fucking big except for a PU. Uh and so if you want to go someplace, you're gonna be driving for hours a lot of times.

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Well, what's interesting is so you know it Washington has a lot of um beautiful architecture, yeah, beautiful areas. Like if you are somebody who wants to walk everywhere in the world, you need to find an apartment somewhere in Seattle. Yeah. If you want to walk everywhere, because you can you know if you find the right place, you can go to pipes if it's your thing, which I can't stand it, but if it's your thing, you can go to Pipe Place Market, you can walk to the Metro Market, you can walk to you know, uh T Mobile Field, you can walk to the the Peers. You never ever but you'd just be better off to have like an e-bike and get around Seattle much easier that way. But just you know, like anywhere else in uh, you know, Pierce or King or Thurston County, lock your bike up. Yeah. Because thieves are everywhere and they don't even have to be homeless. So, you know, everybody already knows Washington has a homeless problem. I mean, for God's sakes, my dad lives a little bit more out uh closer to what we would call country around here. It's not country like you grew up, but it's the in-between country. Yeah. It's wishes it was country, but too many people live there. And there is literally three blocks from his house, there is a tent city in the middle of no yeah, in the middle, uh in the middle of this hasn't been developed land yet.

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Yeah.

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And the homeowners can't get them off.

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Yeah.

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The homeowners can't get them off because people are like, we'll buy it and we'll develop it, but you gotta get the them, the homeless out of there that have been there for seven years now.

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Yeah, there's been a problem with that out in the small town that I grew up in. Oh yeah. And like the worst part about it is that one of the biggest areas where it's happening is one of the nicest areas. Uh it's called Clear Lake, and there's like it's a really nice lake, and then there's all these properties around it.

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Yeah.

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And some of them are like summer homes for rich people or whatever. And so there were a bunch of homeless people moving in and basically busting into these empty houses, yeah. And squatting in them and shit.

SPEAKER_05 23:25

Yeah. Yeah. I actually uh so my brother-in-law is a real estate agent, and one of the people who work with him or for him, I'm not sure how to say it right. So we'll just say with him.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 23:37

Um, so she sh they both just listed houses out in Clear Lake. And what's really weird is I, you know, I looked at the address because when you do military moving and storage, you do a lot of things to Clear Lake, including have no fucking internet access. Jesus Christ. You got no cell phone, you got no internet, and that's just because of the restrictions there. Yeah. Because the community could have paid to have better rent out there, but they don't. They have like there's only one uh internet you can get, and yeah, either that or you can have good luck with satellites.

SPEAKER_03 24:07

So there's only one cable company out there, unlike a lot of other places where they have multiple.

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Yeah. We we don't. We're in Washington. We have like three choices depending on what county you're in.

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Yeah.

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Maybe four.

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I mean when I lived out there as a kid, they had just put in cable line down my street.

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Uh-huh.

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And my grandparents was like, Oh, let's see what this is all about. And so they fucking got it. We had it for like whatever the minimum contract was and then.

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Three months back then.

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Yeah. Because they're like, this bullshit. We don't fucking watch that much television, blah, blah, blah. We're going back to Lawrence Welk. And then they bought one of those fucking old school satellite dishes? Yeah. The ones that you actually could program to the different satellites.

SPEAKER_05 24:53

That neighbor who's by you, that they had the first satellite dish. I grew up just a couple blocks from where you live. So you know which one I'm talking about by the by the school. They had original one.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 25:03

I remember being there and watching them come out inside with this huge thing and be bopping on it. It was like, huh? Yeah. But that goes back to so many moons. But, anyways, that's the movie. So, so we've had a lot of stuff filmed in and around here. So um it's it's really interesting, just depending on what generation you are, what you're gonna remember. But so Sleepless in Seattle, I'd completely forgot about that. And and you know what's really funny is I've actually been to the top of the Space Needle and and I've actually gone out, and I remember I remember going through the door to go out onto the observation deck. And then I remember my teacher slapping me kind of on the face, going, Are you okay? I have an extreme height. The same thing happened when we were going up. Like, I was facing away. I had my back to the glass, I wasn't looking outside, I was looking at the door, waiting to get up. And I mean, when I was in sixth grade, like that was my favorite teacher in the whole world. And uh, I just adored her to death. And so I was just staring at the door, staring at the door, and they're like, She's like, Oh, you need to watch this. Like, no, I don't. No, I really don't. I don't want to, I don't want to. And you know, so when we were up and we were inside, it was fine, it was great, it was so cool. We went up up there and we got to have these sack lunches that was specially prepared for us and blah, blah, blah, blah. And but it was going out on the office. No, I I remember stepping through that door, and that's the last thing I remember before she, like I said, she's kind of, I wouldn't say slapping me on the face, but more like shaking me because this because this weight staff's going, she did we call 911? Yeah, I'm like, I'm okay, I don't know what happened, but I'm okay. Yeah, yeah. It used to be almost that bad going across the Narrows Bridge, too. So so I yeah, I totally forgot about sleepless in Seattle, even though that's such an iconic scene. And I think it's because it's filmed in so many different locations.

SPEAKER_02 26:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 26:52

Sometimes the title just gets you, but yeah, yes, if you're watching, if you ever watch Sleepless Sleepless in Seattle, yes, some of our inlets and our bays are really that beautiful. Yeah, I think one of the most beautiful ones we have is uh out in in Pierce County in in Tacoma, um, not too far from Titlow Beach. Yes, it's called Titlow Beach, which I always find funny.

SPEAKER_03 27:15

There's a whole bunch of Native American named stuff out here in Washington.

SPEAKER_05 27:19

So But we have a place, we have a marina, it's a little inlet and it's called it's called Lemon Beach. Um and it's and it's just it's not too far. It's uh it's maybe uh it's maybe about so Titlow's off of Sixth Avenue, and Lemon, I believe, is on off of 19th, way way down by the water. Um so it's they're they're you know like what less than two miles apart. Yeah, you know, and uh and it's really beautiful. And then of course, if you go down into Thurston County, you've got Johnson Bay, you've got Oyster Bay, you've got all these really beautiful places. So, yes, it is a beautiful place. I just, you know, kind of I personally kind of vote that we just wall off Seattle. Just saying. Um, okay, so, anyways, uh, let's see. The ring, part of the ring was filmed here.

SPEAKER_02 28:06

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_05 28:07

Yes, and I was the original from 2002, and I was just like, how did I not see Sarah Michelle Keller? It's like so crazy. But it was filmed, part of it was filmed in Port Town because um up there at that area, they get really foggy, misty mornings, and they wanted that eerie effect.

SPEAKER_03 28:25

Well, that was around the time I was telling you about this, that in the late 90s, early 2000s, there was a bunch of movies and television shows and stuff being made in Washington because of

Is Tacoma Becoming the New Hollywood

SPEAKER_03 28:40

the restrictions and the high cost of filming in California because there's a whole bunch of you must do this, you must have these people involved in your film. Yep. Um so they were coming up here to cut costs, and then later they ended up going to uh British Columbia instead because Washington started kind of imposing the same sort of rules.

SPEAKER_05 29:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:05

Um, but yeah.

SPEAKER_05 29:06

And I you know what's interesting is I really think from Washington, I think not only was it it was only a few hours' drive for you know, like it's like a day's drive or whatever, train ride or whatever, from where they normally film down in Hollywood and all that and Los Angeles and everything, you know. But there's creature comforts up here if you're from California. Starbucks was a big huge thing. I don't know if you remember way back in the 90s, but Tommy Lee, the drummer for Motley Crew, he uh actually had a Starbucks, like basically for his kitchen version, film filmed. I mean, he had it installed in his house. He paid for it, he got installed, he paid to get trained by the Breestis. So he does his own Starbucks coffee every day in his house. So I think, but that was like '93 where I saw that, or '94. Okay. There's one time a few decades ago. But what's really interesting is we actually have all these creature comforts here in pretty much every county. I mean, honestly, in western Washington, you know, you've got Ramian bars, you've got sushi, you've got high-end, you know, steakhouses and all that. You've got that scattered throughout the state.

SPEAKER_02 30:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 30:13

And then you've got Starbucks, of course, that was was yeah, hear my version, here are my words, was super iconic here. Yeah. Um, even though I have always felt that Tully's was much better. I've always enjoyed Tullies much better. So you have all these creature companies. I mean, now it's the same thing, right? It is. Uh, it really, yeah. I'm gonna come in and save Tully's for a year. Thanks for trying hard, buddy. Anyway. I was really sad when Tullies went away. But, anyways, well, their coffee shops, at least in Pierce County and Thurston County, as far as I can tell, have gone away. I don't know if there's any left in King County. Because they're still producing their coffee Tullies coffee, which is great.

SPEAKER_03 30:53

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_05 30:53

Mm-hmm. They still have their Tullies uh whole roasted bean coffee, okay, which is the exact same stuff they used.

SPEAKER_03 30:59

Well, I mean, Starbucks, before it became a coffee shop, it was a just coffee distribution company. Yep, it was coffee roasters. Part of the reason why Old Dude came back after he got successful with coffee shops and bought Starbucks.

SPEAKER_02 31:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:16

He wanted the name, but also he wanted their distribution.

SPEAKER_05 31:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:21

Um, so yeah.

SPEAKER_05 31:23

Yeah, I bet Seattle's regretting some of their decisions lately. Bye-bye, Stibux. Anyways, uh, so I'm just I don't want to get into that because I'm gonna get mad. I'm gonna I get angry. And here's the thing why it makes me angry. It's because yeah, everybody's just like, oh, rich people should pay more. It's like, you know what, I don't necessarily want them to pay more, but I sure as fuck wish they'd pay their employees better.

SPEAKER_02 31:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 31:47

I I mean it's it's a really interesting it's for another episode. I'm gonna leave it at that because the bottom line is the person who owns and operates uh Costco, he tops out his wages at less than half million a year, I think it is, or it's just around half a million a year, and he makes sure everybody gets paid. Even with the new statistics, it's still a livable wage. There's a difference between a living wage and a livable wage. Because I believe over at Costco in Pierce County, um, they're starting out close to $20 an hour, which is, you know, it's like 20% above minimum wage, which makes it closer to a livable wage, especially if you're living with somebody where you already own your house. Um, because a living living wage for Pierce County is like $28 an hour for a single person. Seattle is almost $40 an hour. That's what they consider a living wage because of how much expensive everything is.

SPEAKER_01 32:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 32:42

And it's really sad that you can go look at Florida at the opposite, complete opposite end of the world from us. And it's like their living wage is like $19 or $21 an hour. It's so crazy.

SPEAKER_03 32:51

Anyways, North Carolina and all that. It's like North Carolina. You need $5 an hour. Right.

SPEAKER_05 32:57

Well, that's an exaggeration. It is, but if you go, if you can go maintain an acre of land in the forest by yourself, I mean you got squatters' rights, so there you go. It's not too far-fetched. Squatter, let me tell you what, squatter rights is a whole nother episode itself because yes. Anyways, so one of my favorite movies from back in the day, which I really love because I really enjoy John Lithgau, uh, Harry and the Hendersons. Oh, yeah. It was filmed in North Bend and the Wenatchee Forest. So that is super hyper cool because it's like the whole thing was filmed here. Yeah. And it's just like, oh, that is so neat. Um, and of course, Officer and Gentleman, Port Townsend, we talked about that. So, but the Red Dawn remake in 2012 featuring the delicious Chris Emsworth. It is actually most of it was filmed in Spokane, Washington.

SPEAKER_02 33:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 33:47

Which is, you know, east of us, but you know, whatever. And then you've got Free Willy One and Two that were filmed up in the San Juans.

SPEAKER_02 33:55

Really?

SPEAKER_05 33:56

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 33:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 33:58

They were filmed around the San Juan Islands because of our Oracle population. Yeah. Population, population. I know how to speak better English than that. Um, and then this was a cool one I found today, The Hunt for Red October. And that one was, of course, filmed up around uh Port Townsend.

SPEAKER_02 34:14

Okay, yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_05 34:15

Which probably makes sense, right? I mean, I was thinking it would have been either, you know, Naval Base Kitsap or Naval Base Everett, but you know, so I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 34:25

Also, they might have said this is the location, even though they filmed it in one of those places just for well, yeah, they so they did the water filming in Port Townsend.

SPEAKER_05 34:34

So they did a lot of the scenery filming in Port Townsend. Because what was interesting about Red October was they're there they literally said filming on a subs is just not an option.

SPEAKER_03 34:44

Yeah, there's they're not built for people walking by a camera.

SPEAKER_02 34:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:48

So therefore, having a dude standing in the middle of the fucking hallway or whatever the fuck you call it, yeah, with a camera while people walking through is not fucking, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 34:58

Yeah, so so what they did for uh at least half the film, they built two 50 square foot sound stages to replicate each submarine. So that's that's pretty cool. But yeah, I was just like for some reason, and just in my brain, I'm just like, when I'm thinking back to the movie, I'm like, that's some really fucking good detail. But so this whole sound stage, these sound stages were actually built in California. Some of the filming was there, and then they were brought up to Port Townsend for more. And to and I'm just like, and all I'm thinking is, I, unless you told me, I would have not thought that wasn't part of a real sub. Yeah. Because, you know, it's just like it's so cramped, it's dark, it's dingy, and it's you know, it's not like battle, uh what's what's the new the newer Hasbro movie, Battlefield with Taylor Kitsch and Rihanna and all that, where the aliens come down and battleship. Oh not like that, where everything is so bright and and there's so much room for everybody to karate chop each other. It's crazy. But uh, so I thought it was really cool that we have all these different films that were done here, and then of course, if we go to the way back, which the way back for me is you know, not that far back, to be honest. But you've got Twin Peaks, which was filmed uh a little closer to uh, I think it was like Rosemod or Clealum, like over so it was over in the past. And then, of course, one of my favorite funny zombie shows was filmed in and around Spokane as well. Do you happen to know what that might be?

SPEAKER_03 36:32

Z Nation.

SPEAKER_05 36:32

Z Nation. And I actually rem, you know, what's really funny is I remember it was being filmed here, and I remember thinking one day, oh man, it would be really cool to meet the lead guy, and then he turned into a Smurf, and I was like, I don't ever want to see him.

SPEAKER_03 36:50

And then later, spoiler alerts, he turned red.

SPEAKER_05 36:53

Yeah, I don't even think I finished that. I mean, I finished the season, but yeah, I haven't seen the like I think the last two episodes I can't remember because I watched them in anger, I think. I was because I remember being so mad that they canceled the show when it was doing so good and they just canceled it.

SPEAKER_02 37:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 37:09

And then trying to get a hold of a DVD that'll play in the the States of United. Good fucking luck, Chuck on that one.

SPEAKER_03 37:16

Yeah, I think one of our former mutual friends is still complaining about the fact that it went to Netflix uh because the last season he can't find a DVD for it.

SPEAKER_05 37:30

I can't even find it on Netflix now.

SPEAKER_03 37:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 37:33

And it's and it's like, and it's all, you know, I'm telling you, it's a giant conspiracy because they all fucking rotate them around, anyways. You know, one month it'll be here, one month it'll be there. Like, like uh, I I do this thing, and I and I and I got you laughing earlier. So I watch Twilight quite often, the whole series. I watch it probably three times a year. Unfortunately, the unfortunately, but here's the unfortunate part is I'm always thinking, okay, this time I watch it, she'll make better decisions, she'll make better choices, and she never does. Yeah, and it's so disappointing because it's just like, what's wrong with you, Bella? You you you are in Washington, and you know, and the only excuse I can think of is that she was in Arizona, right? She was in Arizona, it was really hot. Then she was gonna be in Florida, where it's just as hot, right? So she just needed something to cool her down because she couldn't stand the heat. Okay, because anybody who's from Washington, anybody, almost anybody, that's reasonable and logical would pick the wolf every time. I uh yeah, so I watch it, like I said, about three times a year. I watch the whole series because I keep expecting her to make a different choice, and she doesn't. It never changes, and it's I would really love to see them do a reunion movie for them with uh the the daughter all grown up and everything. Ah, okay. Because I know that there's like another book they could do, but I don't know. I still I don't know. I go back and forth. I don't I want to read the books just because I want to see the differences between A and B. But I had somebody in the shop who bought one of our I literally bought every single book except for Breaking Dawn Part Two. So she bought Twilight, New Moon, Eclipse, all of it. Okay, she found them all, and I was just like, oh, the one day I don't check the book section, fuck, right? Because I'm always looking for butcher. Anyways, um, she was just like, Yeah, this is really great, especially, you know, if uh Octavia. Especially if you have a weekend by yourself, and you're I'm gonna I'm gonna hurt you. Anyways, but she's like, basically, it's just like porn. And I was like, I'm not interested in reading that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_02 39:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 39:35

She said it's basically a whole bunch of sex stuff, and I'm just like, eh.

SPEAKER_03 39:40

Yeah, that's one of my pet peeves, I guess you could call it, with the urban fantasy genre.

SPEAKER_02 39:46

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 39:47

Is that a lot of it is basically romance novels.

SPEAKER_05 39:53

Um I like action, I like adventure, I like Dresden. Although he does have one sex scene. Jesus Christ. Yeah. I'm like, I specifically haven't even I that's one of the reasons why when I started listening to Dresden on the audiobooks this morning. Um, it's I couldn't remember where that one was. So I was just like, I'm definitely going way forward to where I know it's not.

SPEAKER_03 40:15

Yeah. I mean, there's at least three, four and one Coitus Interruptus sex scene.

SPEAKER_05 40:22

Yeah, well, yeah, but the thing is, is there's they're not like in Butcher, there's only one sex sex scene. Yeah, we're gonna do it.

SPEAKER_03 40:31

It's graphic, it's kind of graphic into it, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 40:34

Like all Z I can, you know, and God bless him. Because I think I think Jim Butcher is a great, I think he's a great Gin X writer. I think he I think he I think that's why I like his stuff so much, is because some of the things he says or Harry says is exactly what you would say as a Gen Xer. Yeah. Oh, look, the idiot troop has arrived. Well, how are you doing? Uh yes, I would like your master dead on a platter. Didn't I just say that? You know? So I I really like that aspect. But yeah, that was just like every time I I think of that scene, I think, oh my god, he must have been watching like honestly, it reminds me of something that you would have seen on um Skinwax. No, it's a bondage, uh it's a bondage filming site. We used to sell.

SPEAKER_03 41:24

Oh fuck, the place with the castle.

SPEAKER_05 41:27

Something like that. But anyways, I keep thinking, oh, he was watching a bondage movie or something, because holy crap, that's descriptive. And kink.com. Kink. There we go. I thought that was my view into butcher. I'm like, oh, so you like kink.com. Okay, that's exactly what I think is. Oh my god, but I'm not accusing of him uh your kink, your kink, I don't care, but that's what it reminded me of was somebody watching a scene and descriptively putting it in there. Okay, because it was there was parts of it that were kind of yeah, anyways. Uh so yeah, but yeah, so we have lots of movies that have been filmed here, and I know did you read the entire article on on that?

SPEAKER_03 42:06

I just saw the headline because I was waiting for something I don't remember. And I was like, oh, that's kind of cool. Well, what's we've gone.

SPEAKER_05 42:13

Well, what's really interesting is we actually we actually have quite a few entertainers that are from this region. Yeah. You know, you've got Blair Underwood, who's from like uh Tacoma, you've got Amberly Kane, who's from uh Tacoma Spanaway. Yeah, you know, you've got all you've got Linda Evans, who lives up north, you know, you've got Sir Mixlaw Anthony Kane, who's you know, over on the he's not on the other side of Mouse Mountains, but every time we talk about him, he's on the east side. Um, you know, he he went and did a whole whole big long time in Japan. And I actually, it's several years ago, and I actually met him before and I giggle it. I've met him twice now, like actually met him in person, not when I'd see him walk through my high school to pick up one of his artists. But every time I saw him, I just giggle. I just I can't help it. I'm like because he is so he like you see his videos and you you you watch his my posse on Broadway, Buttermilk, like any of it, and you you know, and you're like you're like, oh, he's a good looking dude, right? And you're like, wow, he's kind of got chubby cheeks. No, in real life, he has really chubby cheeks. He's like, give Santa a fucking run for his money, you know, and he's he's so polite, and he's a very much a uh yes, please, no, thank you, yes, ma'am, no, sir. I mean, he's so polite and he's so, you know, but anyways, so we have a very rich history here, and we're kind of the middle ground for a lot of places, you know, when you talk about Washington, because now they do so many, they do so much filming in British Columbia now, and up on the other side of the border, up by Blaine and everything, that we are there's a lot of celebrities who drive through routinely.

SPEAKER_02 43:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 43:51

You know, they don't all take a plane. Some of them are like, no, I'm gonna drive and hit my favorite spots. And I can actually remember when I was a kid that um 21 Jump Street was filming up in British Columbia. And I remember me and my best friend had gone to uh over to the Tacoma Mall when it was actually a mall and not a shopping center. And uh we were there, and I very distinctly remember seeing three celebrities on one weekend. And what's funny, what's funny as an adult now is the person I thought was the hottest guy from 21 Doug Jump Street was uh the white guy, uh Peter Delouise.

SPEAKER_03 44:28

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 44:29

He was big and he was burlying, he was built like a lumberjack. Yeah, yeah. I thought he was hot, and he had this dude with him, and he was kind of the scrawny Indian-looking guy. I mean, he was okay, but he was not a Peter Delawise. And so we saw them on a Saturday, and then on Sunday, there was an artist who was in and he was signing, he was at the um, this dates us, Sam Goody. Okay, and he was signing, signing cassette singles and full cassette tapes, and even vinyls. He was signing them, and that that artist's name was Tommy G. And so fast forward a few years, and I heard that Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera, these two girls, were gonna be doing a free show at the mall, and it was just like I'm fucking adult. I don't want to, because my ex-husband's just like, hey, I need to run over Sears to get something. I'm like, they're doing some kids' party over there. I'm that go by yourself. And it was like a year after she was here, she blew up.

SPEAKER_02 45:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 45:32

Uh just like Evanescence in 2002, I think. Either 2000, 2002. They uh did a free show that I had an opportunity to go to, but no, no, I didn't go because I went and made triple pay working at True Green because I was working uh I call it triple pay because I'd already been in money, and so I was making a lot more doing uh commercial jobs that night.

SPEAKER_02 45:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 45:58

Um didn't go there. They had a show there that was like packed house. Then they did a show at Jazz Bones, and I tried to go to Jazz Bones and do that, but oh, it was sold out. It was 100 people only fuck off. And it was just like, oh, Jazz Bones kind of small, so yeah, they had a hundred people, it was it was a hundred people were gonna get in. That's all it was. But the one we call it Hell's Kitchen. I think it used to be called Hell's Kitchen, I think it might be called Dawson's now in Tacoma. There's a bar down there, yeah. But like 400 people were in and around the bar when it happened. Yeah, and I feel bad because I'm just you know, but that's back when Ben Moody was with the group, and I was talking to somebody at work about this. I was like, yeah, I was just like, it's so crazy the missed opportunities. Yeah, you don't think about it, but it is cool if the filming uh industry is gonna come more here, which which is really great because I actually have an acquaintance um that I've known for for several years, and he's an actor, and he's done little bit parts here and there, and of course, he does a lot of the local independent movies. Um and he just got a bigger part in something else, so he's really excited about that. Um, he should be in the middle of filming right now because I think he was filming June, July, August, and then um him and the team of people that he works with locally, they just uh there's a competition they do every year, and so they did the uh it was an homage to Jurassic Park, so they did like some of the most iconic scenes, they recreated it. And he played uh Sam Neil's character for his like easy it was either Sam Neal or the other guy in Jurassic Park 1, uh, where he's like hunting and then he realizes he's being hunting, so not Sam Neal, the other guy. Okay, where he's like steady girl or whatever, and he did a good job.

SPEAKER_03 47:39

Love my girl. Uh yeah, there was a series of movies called Gamers that was actually filmed here and local people, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 47:49

I know, and I know his mom. I used to take care of his lawn, and I actually got to see one of his game d uh dungeon sets.

SPEAKER_03 47:56

I actually gamed with one of the dudes from the ship from that movie.

SPEAKER_05 47:59

His parents are really neat. Um, I think he gets his love of the family. Like when you talk to the family, and you don't know if it comes from mom and dad or if it's just like flows back and forth, but they were my favorite customer when I worked for True Green. They were my favorite customer to go treat their lawn because every Halloween was a different setup. And one of the years they basically did an a miniature, obviously, that it was a pirate ship with a graveyard. A pirate ship crashed into a graveyard. It was really neat. And she I remember talking to the mom and she's like, Do you want to see something really neat? So she goes, You know, my son, he does all this stuff. I'm like, Yeah, I'm always hoping for him, you know, because I remember seeing him when he was like, because I'd treated them for several years. And I remember seeing him when he was like 15, 16, maybe maybe 15 or 16, maybe a little bit younger. And he's just like, I've got this idea. And I remember him telling me this idea, and I'm like, bro, I'm a gamer. So yeah, that sounds cool. But like, I'm a different kind of gamer than he is, right? And I remember, so she was like, Come here, check this out. And in the garage was this dungeon setup that was ended up, I don't remember if it made it into the movie or if it got scrapped from the movie, but it was one of the movies that so they had just set this like dungeon tavern scene up or something. I don't know. But I remember her, she was just like showing me all this, and she always showed me what was going on when they were there. So I'd seen several different scenes set up in the garage. I'm just like, that's crazy. But like to walk into the garage and literally it's just like, oh, it you wouldn't even know this was ever a garage, you know. But they always had the most fantastic Halloween displays, Christmas lights galore. Um, so one year they did uh one year that they did, they participated in that area's local like uh Christmas lights thing. Yeah, it really looked like Santa was truly bounding through their yard and everything. And it was so funny because I had to go spray uh their lawn and I'm like, man, this is a lot of lights. And and her husband was just like, don't worry about it. And so he was just like, where are you gonna go first? And I was just like, Well, I need to do, I'll do the whole outline first. I'll do all the edging first. That just makes it a lot quicker. And he goes, he goes, Okay, cool. So I literally, why I started at one end, he started at the other, and he started pulling everything out. And instead of, you know, like pulling it up and moving it far away like I would have had to do, he just set it up and put it in his bushes. He's like, Go for it. So I remember edging the whole thing. And once I did a path back and there was enough room, he's like, Is that enough room? I'm like, Yep, by the time I was done doing their entire property, he had everything set back up like nothing ever happened. Nice. Yeah, it so it's we have this rich history here. We have writers from here. There's uh the um, I can't remember her name. We talked about it on the remarkable, magnificent Mr. Molina, uh, the lady who wrote uh Remarkably Bright Creatures. She's she actually lives in Tacoma. You know, there's uh there's lots of writers here, there's lots of entertainers here. Um Joe Coy did his time here because his dad was in the military. Uh, you know, so he uh I believe he spent time at uh not Stadium, not Wilson, the other one.

SPEAKER_02 51:09

Lincoln?

SPEAKER_05 51:10

No, I went to Lincoln, I would know if Joe Coy was there because he's one year older than me.

SPEAKER_02 51:15

Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 51:16

Um Foss, there we go. I think he did time at Foss

She will make a better choice if I watch it again, right?

SPEAKER_05 51:20

and maybe Bellerman, I don't remember, but what I do think is cool is we have all these different entertainers from this region, and it's just like it's not as cool as like, you know, if it was like Rock Putson or Dean Martin or, you know, who's really famous, uh Eminem. That'd have been badass. I mean, we have our own famous magicians, like musicians, like uh, you know, Pearl Jam, Foo Fighters that, you know, get their grunge startup here in Nirvana. Yeah. We have all of that. But it's not like we have that epic. I mean, I don't know, maybe some people feel that way about Kurt Cobain. I don't know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:55

Soundgarden.

SPEAKER_05 51:56

Um Chris Cornell and Kurt Cobain, R.A.P., but you know, it's uh, you know, I I don't think that I hate that. I it's I hate that part of our history that uh some of our most famous musicians also killed themselves. One way or another, Jimi Hendrix. That's that's just he led a life that led it short.

SPEAKER_03 52:15

Yeah, I mean that's entertainment, entertainers in general. A lot of those people, artists in general, a lot of those people are very haunted people, and so they make choices that are well optimal.

SPEAKER_05 52:29

Kurt Gomain being raised where he was and going through what he did, I like certainly understood that, but I know it's it's very sad. But it but anyways, this isn't this isn't the sad episode. So it's really cool the amount of movies that are filmed here. I I would I would love to take the time to look through all. I think it's now 168 movies have been filmed here. Um I would love to see what are the biggest grossing ones, but that takes a little more research time than I've had lately.

SPEAKER_03 52:55

That makes me wonder. So Terry Brooks, um The writer. The writer of Shannara from yeah, of the Shannara series. He's not from Washington, but he lived here for a while.

SPEAKER_02 53:06

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 53:06

And a good portion of the Shannara series is actually set in Washington. It's just in the future.

SPEAKER_02 53:12

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 53:12

So it makes me wonder um if any of the Elfstones um were filmed in Washington because they had that television series for a brief period.

SPEAKER_02 53:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:26

Um and like I said, part of it happens in Washington, part of it is also in California.

SPEAKER_02 53:31

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 53:32

Um, and during the show they show you the Space Needle and they show you the Golden Gate Bridge. And they act like they're right next to each other.

SPEAKER_05 53:40

But 250 years that might be with the way ships like shifting. Oregon might have disappeared and fucking No, the answer is that California's gonna break off, rotate, and that that's float up the coast. Float up the coast, because that could happen.

SPEAKER_02 53:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 53:57

Because you know, they're not real there.

SPEAKER_02 54:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 54:00

I mean, the San Andreas fault keeps growing by what three millimeters every year.

SPEAKER_02 54:05

Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 54:06

I mean, it might be wide enough to stick the foot in by the time it comes to the end of our cycles, who knows? But we'll yeah, we'll have to look at Terry Brooks, because for some reason I thought he was based in Colorado, but I think I'm confusing him with somebody who's related to you that's a writer in Colorado.

SPEAKER_02 54:19

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 54:20

I think I might be getting them confused for some reason, which because I was a little like if my brain was any smarter, it'd be just like, hey, call up Uncle Brooks and be like, yo, motherfucker.

SPEAKER_03 54:30

No, Terry Brooks is definitely not my uncle.

SPEAKER_05 54:32

No, I know that.

unknown 54:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 54:34

Uh so it's it's super, it's super insane the amount of movies that have been filmed here and quite successful movies that have been here. Yeah, we get a lot of shots out there of Commensement Bay, uh, which is, you know, obviously uh downtown Tacoma, the waterfront. That's what commencement bay is called. So you get a lot in commencement bay, you get a lot up in the Seattle waterfront piers. We do Eastern Washington. Why do they go to Spokane? I'm guessing it's just because it's the biggest populace over there.

SPEAKER_03 54:59

Because I don't there's nothing they have some interesting, I mean every place in the world is like this, but they have some interesting scenic areas over there.

SPEAKER_05 55:09

Okay, fair.

SPEAKER_03 55:10

Um, especially with the river. Uh um and they highlighted a bunch of those.

SPEAKER_05 55:17

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 55:18

Um but you know, other places in Washington have very scenic places, but like I said, everywhere in the world is like that. If you look around enough, you'll find someplace that looks really fucking cool just for the visuals of it.

SPEAKER_05 55:31

Yeah, and it's and it's really interesting when you start when you like start thinking about these movies, especially these movies that were done 30, 35, 40 years ago. Like when you look at like I kind of want to look up this movie, these movies that were done in 1949 and 1953, um, because I would like to see how different it is. And that was I would I would really like to see how different it is uh from when they filmed. Come on, where is it? 1955 to Hell and Back, obviously a war movie. Yeah. And then there was a war to movie. And then there was another one too, uh, what was it? Come on. Anyways, there's another one that's like from 1949, uh, that I would really like to see, just so I can see what the differences are. Because what's interesting to me is I can tell you in Say Anything, one of the places where they filmed, the trees are much bigger now. They're huge, and they've been huge for decades, you know. Yeah. Because Say Anything was filmed 36 years ago, right? So um, I would just I would just love to do that shot for shot comparison because I know that like uh Rose Red, some of the places where they filmed outdoor scenes, there's the they've developed houses there now. Yeah. So you're not because some of that was filmed out in Spanaway, Washington, and um, it's really creepy that the guy, one of the guys that was supposed to die in the film, actually had a heart attack before he could film this death scene. And so he died in Spanaway, Washington uh on a filming day, like like the day before he was supposed to film his death scene, and like I think less than two weeks before his birthday or something. Wow. So, but I it would be interesting to go back through and look at these because even when you like, even when you go to Twilight, which is very easy for anybody to do, and you look at Twilight and then you look at and you look at Forks, how they have it in Twilight, which was filmed in 2006, 2007 range, so 20 years ago, and you see it now, it's like, oh, that's not exactly what forks looks like. No. Last time I was to fork to forks, which has been, you know, I drove through there within the last 15 years, and I'm hoping it's much better now. Uh, it was really dingy. It looked like Skid Row. It was really, and you know, and they have this big sign where home of Twilight, and it was just like, yeah, uh, do you ever sweep garbage? I mean, it was horrible, but so I'm hoping it was just one of those things because every city goes through the ups and downs.

SPEAKER_02 57:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 57:51

And you know, but I it was it's such cool that every state, almost every state, you get stuff filmed in. And sometimes you get blockbusters filmed there, and sometimes you get second-rate stuff filmed there.

SPEAKER_02 58:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 58:04

But yeah, the the article you were reading about the resurgion of independent films and cinema and theater is what I caught the little bit that I read was they were talking more about like these independent productions, which I think is fantastic. Leave a legacy. Yeah, that's you know, we've talked about this before about like record record a podcast with your family. Every set up message, you know, set up recording devices on family reunions and then listen to it every year and capture them and do those things to really commemorate what's going on with your family dynamic, your personal dynamic. But I I definitely want to see some of these films and be like, like, stadium has really changed. Yeah. You know, not the outside so much, but it definitely has changed because I remember not too many years after the filming of that, people were afraid that the whole stadium was gonna slide off the hillside.

SPEAKER_03 58:54

Yeah, because there was yeah, because it was white um water basically on a cliff.

SPEAKER_05 59:00

Yeah, and what's super crazy is do you remember when they were doing construction, they actually found huge granite boulders where they were trying to reinforce everything? So they had a heck of a time. The boulders, one of the boulders they found, I believe, was bigger than a city bus. I was like, holy shit.

SPEAKER_03 59:16

Area has been scoured by glaciers and shit.

SPEAKER_05 59:20

So not surprising, right?

SPEAKER_03 59:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 59:22

So on this 50th episode, yeah, I know it's kind of ran long. We did a little bit more than just talk about the movies that were filmed here. Um, so on this 15th episode, um, I need a little break. Do you need a little break? Yeah. Yeah, we need a little break. So what we're gonna do is we're gonna take uh about two weeks off, like 10 days off, and just kind of rest and reset our brains, and then uh and then we'll come back just after the 4th of July. And uh, or right around the 4th of July, we'll come back with a new episode, new content, a little more pop culture and history for you. Um, but we're gonna we're appreciated. We appreciate you guys. I like I don't know who's gonna win the battle of the countries that listen to us. I don't know, I don't know if it's gonna be South America, I don't know if it's gonna be Southeast Asia or Europe. One of them's gonna win.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:06

And I'm not sure who it's gonna be. We'll find out at the end of this season, but that's not for a few more months.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:12

Now we need to get people in Antarctica.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:14

We have hit all seven continents.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:16

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_05 1:00:17

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:18

There was somebody in Antarctica that listed?

SPEAKER_05 1:00:20

I don't think they list Antarctica as one of the places. All the places that are available for tracking, we've got listeners everywhere. I think one of the last ones to come in was Finland and New Zealand.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:31

Because Oceana is New Zealand and uh Australia, Australia, some of the other um countries down there. Yeah, and it was super crazy because we talked about, man, we've like I remember when we first started, and it was um, man, this would be really cool, see where all to go. And then it was like it was just North America for a while, and then it was North America, and then it was uh the UK, so Europe. And it was like, oh, and then it was you know, like Ireland and Scotland, and then we got South America and Southeast Asia and Russia, not Russia, they don't track Russia, by the way.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:06

Oh really?

SPEAKER_05 1:01:07

They do not track Russia, but Ukraine. So right around that area, we are hearing it. Uh, they are hearing it. So it's really cool. Uh, we have a couple of episodes that are really super popular with uh music episodes are really super popular with people in Malaysia, Vietnam, and and and I find that very interesting. But what else I find super interesting when I was looking at the tracking a little bit more is what's really popular in Vietnam as well is prepper.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:37

Interesting.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:38

I find that very interesting too because are you interested in being a prepper or are you looking at a different way to be a more self-sustaining lifestyle?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:46

And you know, it's home we talk about homesteading every once in a while. We don't talk about it on camera really or on mic, really, but here in the house, we do talk about it. And you know, last night, which last night there was a shooting less than a block away from you. Yeah, and you still don't know what happened. You know, you always have headphones on or whatever. Did you even see the police card?

SPEAKER_03 1:02:09

No, I sleep very well.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:11

Well, it happened at 5 15 last night.

unknown 1:02:14

515.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:15

Yeah, it was just after 5 because uh my partner and I had just I'd went and done a food run, which I told you about. Good gosh. Yeah, that looks crazy. That's crazy, right? And then we were watching the Charlize Theron and Caron Eric Egerton movie on Netflix called Apex.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:34

Okay, yeah, I've seen advertisements for that. I'm like, that looks kind of interesting.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:39

It's very interesting. I'm very sad with Charlie Theron's, like she says she's never had she hasn't had plastic surgery, but she's definitely at least had some lip fillers or something done because she does she looks like herself, but not.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:52

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:52

And it's funny because I so I Googled it, it has Charlie's Theron had plastic surgery. She's addressed this several times, and she's apparently on her Instagram or whatever. She's like, I haven't had ever had plastic surgery. It's called aging, aging, bitch. And I'm just like, when you get older, your lips tend to thin, not get fuller, but okay. So uh so it was okay. But we were watching that, and um I had uh we had literally just got into, we were like 20 minutes into it and we heard it. And I looked at my partner, I was like, that was gunshots, wasn't it? And he was like, Yes, and he like rolls his eyes because we're so used to hearing it now at this time. It's just something that's becoming like it goes back and forth. But so now the gunshots have happened, which means for the next two weeks, people are gonna get their windows busted in their car. It's just the cycle of how it happens. So, but yeah, apparently, literally a half a block from you, I think, because the next alley down from you, across from the school, is where it was. Two vehicles were damaged. One had like, I think they said nine to ten shots in it. And so they were somebody was hit because there was ambulance, there was fire. You heard we heard them all. I was gonna text you, but I was just like, it's your day off. I'm not gonna text you on your day off. You already had to get up early to go meet your friend to hang out. So you know. Um, so we talk about homesteading a lot here.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:07

And uh, and I I tell my partner the same thing. I love the idea of homesteading, but you have to have money to do it. You have you have to, and he's just like, no, that's the whole point of living off the grid and off the no, no, no, listen. You have to have money to buy the property, yeah, and to buy the things you need to get it. It it doesn't just happen overnight. We worked for somebody who was a homesteader who still, him and his wife both worked for a full time, and they had just gotten to the point with their property where they were making profit from their honey and their beef. Nice homesteading. And it was just like, and and like and and not like a good profit either.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:44

Like his honey is like four bucks a jar, he makes 50 cents off of every one of them.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:48

Holy shit.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:49

Yeah, it's fucking expensive because you have to get certified. You I I I'm not, and I'm not going to I'm not gonna sit here and say the name of his company, I'm not gonna say the name of his website, um, just simply because they didn't know if they were gonna continue for the next couple of years. They knew they were gonna finish out the 23, 24 season and 25. They didn't know beyond that because the licensing had gotten so expensive. So they were putting feelers out because I bought the honey when they were four dollars a jar. When I asked him about honey again, it was seven dollars a jar for the same four-ounce jar. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, that's a little, but he did make me a deal two for two for ten, but he never did get me the second one, so you know he scammed me out of three bucks or whatever. Anyways, so I love the idea of homesteading, but that is one thing in Southeast Asia. They love in Vietnam, especially Vietnam, Brazil, and Argentina. They really love uh the stuff about music, and and I think it's because when we talk about different music and everything, we have a lot of fun with it.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:52

Um, the guar one was one that really surprised me that it's kind of the ones about guar waging war with lyrics. That one, which You know, yes, I'm a wordsmith sometimes. He uh that one really surprised me that it kind of jumped up where it did. But the one that surprised me the most awesome. Well, you know, I I realized so I have a friend that I work with that I I adore so very much, and they mean the world to me. And I realized I walked into work the other day. Nobody's supposed to know that we're friends outside of work at all. It's a very hush-hush secret thing, but I realized that I had to be very careful because I didn't think in the moment, I just heard this song uh by Chapel Rowan called Pink Pony Club. Yeah, and so I, as I'm listening to the song in my car, I'm hearing Guar singing it in my head. Blothar. Blowthar, uh singing it in my head. So I walked into the production room and I started singing Pink Pony Club like Blothar. And I didn't realize until I'd after I'd stepped away for a few minutes, and I thought, and I started looking around to see who all was there. Because I know the one person, he's an older guy, and he's he's not forgetful, but like he's not a social butterfly either, right? So he's not gonna remember. And everybody else was too far away. The only person who would have there was only two people that would have even remotely connected it, weren't there. Yeah, one had called out and one was on a day off, and I was like, what they Jesus for small miracles, and no other manager saw it because only two managers there know that I know this individual outside of work.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:30

Or at least remember it.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:32

So, anyways, yeah, blow the R. But they but I think because we have such fun with the music, and we have fun when we talk movies too. Kindergarten cop is is the the kindergarten hero is doing really well. But the one that really surprised me, uh, first of all, was when mommy said to me, Hi mommy! Hi, mommy, hi mommy, uh, was when mommy said to me, so I know that my sibling was playing an episode for her, but she goes, What is this book series you keep talking about? And I said, It's Jim Butcher's The Dresden Files. And she goes, What is it about it? And I said, You know, I don't like it when somebody tells me, Oh, you have to read it, which it's not you. It's our other mutual acquaintance friend front of me. It's our it's it's it's my friend of me. I don't know. I might pee on the food's on fire, but anyway. I I don't only think I care about is that he's good to you. That's all I care about, right? So, anyways, um, so I said, I couldn't really stand when somebody's sitting there and telling you have to, you have to, you have to. Like, like having a sibly going, Oh, you gotta listen to ACDC, they're the best band in the road. No, no, no, I'll just I'll go with Metallica, I'm good. Um, but I do like ACDC. But it's a one of the reasons why I wouldn't listen to ACDC or Queen, I could I've never been able to stand that. It's like, hey, why don't you try to give them a listen? And then when you re when you reintroduce me to it, Jim Butcher and the Dresden files. So I tell her, I was like, it's this. And it's be and I told her, I said, because it's funny. I said, it is a complete science fantasy world.

Independant Film Making

SPEAKER_05 1:09:00

All the things we wish were true in life, all the things we're scared could be true in life. I was just like, and it's funny. I was like, the humor starts out pretty dry, but I was just like, it makes me laugh, it makes me cry, it makes me think. I was like, there are characters I'm just so in love with that their death would cause absolute mortification. I remember spoiler alert, 12 months, we talk about what had happened in Battleground, which is the death of the iconic Karen Murphy.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:29

And you know, when I read that, I was literally, and it was so funny because I kind of mentioned something about it earlier. The first thing I thought was, thank God it wasn't butters. Literally, because butters, you've got Harry, you've got Mouse, you've got Maggie, and Butters, and they're all my they're just all my favorite people. But if I have to have anybody, I'd rather see Ebenezer die than Butters. I would rather see, I hate to say this and I sound like such a CNX Tuesday, but I'd rather Billy the Werewolf die than Butters. I would rather Michael Carpenter die. I would rather Molly die than Butters.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:08

So, but what's interesting to me, so mommy asked about that, and I was telling her, right? And then I was looking at the stats the other day because I'm like, okay, I knew I was gonna want to take a break because it's just I've had a couple of weeks with some stuff at work where I've had to work and fill in more, yeah, which is fine, but I'm just not in that mental state of mind anymore. We're a 40-hour work week uh is cohesive to my good mental health, which we'll talk about mental health here. We'll probably talk about how mental health helps. Anyways, um, 12 months was the fastest listened to uh episode we've had. 12 months. Now we've talked about Harry, we've talked about the Dresden Files, but 12 months had in the first 30 days had the has had the fastest listens to to get up to where it's at.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:58

And it's so crazy to me because it's the fastest in the fact that three quarters of the listenings of the, well, we would call it, I guess, views, but it's the listens. Yeah, uh, three-quarters of those happened within the first 10 days and accounts for three-quarters of the listening. And about every other week it gets more listens. So it's really, it's really interesting to me though to watch all this. So we need a break, we're gonna take a break. We're gonna it we're having a hot spell come in, um, FIFA's in town. So we're gonna take a break, and then we'll come back like right before 4th of July or right after, one or the other. Yeah. And uh, you know, and then we'll we'll move on with the second half of the season. Because everybody needs a break, because I can't keep working with you sounding all sickly and stuff. Uh, you actually sound better now than you did this morning, because now that you've actually talked.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:45

Now that I've spent more than three minutes talking for the entire day.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:49

Yeah, I have a feeling you're like me at work where it's just like there are days where you just don't engage with anybody. It's just not and I'm doing my work, I'm not and I'm doing my I I get it. It's I laughed with a co-manager on Saturday, and she had a snarky comment about somebody, and that's just her. She just she's not happy unless somebody around her is unhappy, yeah, is more miserable than her life. And it's a really sad way to be because if she could set that aside, if she really could set that aside, she has a plethora of knowledge when it comes to like heavy metal music and horror movies. She'd be a great guest to talk to about those things. But I can't stand that somebody's got to be doing worse than me, or I'm not happy. Yeah, somebody's constantly got to be in turmoil. And so she she was being snarky about something, and I don't even need to say what it is, because it doesn't matter. And I remember laughing, and I and I started laughing. She goes, Oh, you find that funny too? And I said, No, I find it funny that y'all expect a different result. I was like, Do you understand how unwelcoming it is around here? She goes, What do you mean? I said, People are like, welcome, welcome, welcome. And the minute you don't do exactly what they ask, so you're doing what the boss asks, then you're the target. Then, you know, it's you're terrible, you're awful, you're the worst. And I said, It's a mentality that needs to be broken.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:08

And I, and she said, Well, you don't still feel that way. And I looked at her and I said, Some days I do. I said, I, and this is literally how I put it to her. I said, This is no offense to anybody else. I said, What the big boss says is law. So what the big big boss says is really the law. And then our big boss says, What's the law? And I do that. I was like, but you know, because I'm the new guy, I do whatever you guys write down. I was just like, and you damn well better bet that I keep a list of it and I make sure I email my boss every day like I'm supposed to. When I'm not doing an EOS report, I you what? I email about my activities and who told me to do what. Because I have to explain. Uh, don't you remember? She told us, Oh, we need to explain what we're doing when we're not doing EOS reports. The response I got was, I'm not gonna do that because I've worked here this long and I don't need to do that. She asked us, but that was the exact same response

Until Next Time!

SPEAKER_05 1:14:00

I got from everybody. And I was just like, Do you see how unwelcome it would feel that you're targeting me? I'm getting targeted. Well, it's not about, it's not, it's not that we're targeting you. I said, if I'm the only one doing it and I've got the boss yelling at me because nobody else is doing it, why am I doing it? Well, that's what they said to do. And I was just like, Do you see how unwelcome it is? Do you see why I would feel targeted? I was just like, so you know, I was just like, and then the false accusations and the false statements that happened over this other situation, I was just like, I'm not a petty penny, but let me tell you what, if you think for a minute you are welcoming to anybody in this company, you're wrong. And and and that's it's just a mentality that has to change. So now we have this new person, and this manager says to me, What do you think of her? And I just look her down the face and oh, I like her just fine. I've complimented her work, and I've told her, I think it's admirable how hard she's trying to pick everything up, and not to worry about the little mistakes as long as she lets us know and not hide them. Which she doesn't know. I'd already been told, Oh, you're much nicer when I make a mistake than this person or that person, because I know what it's like to be targeted.

unknown 1:15:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:09

But, anyways, we'll take a break, we'll have a good time. Fourth of July is almost here. This fucking heat wave needs to end. Viva La FIFA. You know, I told you that joke that customer sent me the other day. Oh, nobody's painting gonna get no no no no work's gonna get so. Anyways, we I thank the listeners. I'm glad they're with us. Yeah, thank you. We'll be back in 10 or 12 days. Just a few days, get a few days, get us things taken care of, and uh yeah, and we'll I'll do more research on the movies. Okay, and we'll talk more about them in the future. Okay, because yeah, the movies are great. It's it's wild. It's it's it's movie magic happening all over Washington, and it's really cool to see it amp up. I remember Twin Peaks, the TV show.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:53

And of course, it was stupid.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:56

But fun fact, I had a psychology class in 11th grade, and I did an entire report based on Twin Peaks and how they use true mental health disorders to entertain us. And I got an A plus on that motherfucker. Okay. I remember my teacher going, I didn't realize. I'm like, you've got somebody who's a DID, but of course, it's it's only been recently called DID. Back then it was multiple personality disorder. You have you have somebody who's got multiple personality disorder, you have somebody who's antisocial, and you have somebody who is psychotic, and you have somebody who's a serial killer. So these are all mental health disorders. And and we're glorifying it. Like, I explained everything I'd seen in the season and how it all correlates to each other. And the teacher was just like, think I can remember it all now? Nope. And I delivered the I delivered because I always get stage fright in front of when people are looking at me and I can see it. I get I almost get stage fright and or a form of it. And I remember I got high as fuck before that class. And I was so nervous. Not then, man. I got up on the podium like, let me tell y'all about this show that exploits mental health illness, and we're all entertained by it. Yeah. Anyways, until next time. Yep. See you soon.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:15

Later.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:16

Bye.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:21

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