Podcast 12: Art Therapy and Dreams; Lucid dreaming and Liminal spaces in Therapy

Welcome to our 12th episode of The Spirit of Creative Entanglement. We are three art psychotherapists, and this space is for curious minds seeking relatable, authentic, and meaningful stories about healing from all walks of life, both professional and personal. Join us as we explore creativity, connection, and the transformative power of storytelling and self-expression.

We are delighted to welcome Miranda Jones as today’s podcast guest; integrative art psychotherapist, artist, and lucid dreaming facilitator. 

Today's discussion is a deep dive into the richness of dreamwork, the fertile void, and how working with liminal spaces can support our work as therapists. What happens when we consciously meets parts of ourselves in dreams, and how can we harness the power of this meeting place to integrate psychedelic and extra-ordinary experiences. This exploration opens a doorway into how we may utilise these transformational realms to make meaning for ourselves, our clients, and the collective.

Links mentioned in the episode:

Miranda's Contact:
www.thewondering.co.uk

https://thewondering.substack.com/

Miranda's Events:

https://dandelion.events/u/miranda_jones

www.mossycrow.co.uk

Charlie Morley:

https://www.charliemorley.com/

Charlie Morley's Ted talk on the lucid dreaming as trauma treatment:

https://youtu.be/yNqmYy9hucM?si=oxPjvm21ZPoRjSTt

Academic Paper mentioned: Decreased PTSD symptoms following a lucid dreaming workshop: A randomized controlled study

https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2025-90474-001

Podcast mentioned:
The Emerald podcast interview with Báyò Akómoláfé :

 https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Na74VKfLtGazWufYvxLhm?si=XE3t2XgmQiGdm_eHTFA9jw

www.hand2health.co.uk, @hand2health,