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Faith, Family & Legacy | Julian Germinal on Leadership & Purpose
In this deeply personal season finale of the Mix Realities Podcast, Julian Germinal sits down for an unfiltered conversation about faith, leadership, entrepreneurship, marriage, and fatherhood.
This episode goes beyond business strategy and into the real foundations of a meaningful life. Julian reflects on his journey from instability and hardship to becoming a purpose-driven leader, husband, and father, while building businesses rooted in integrity, discipline, and service.
You’ll hear honest insights on
• What it truly means to lead as a man of faith
• Balancing marriage, family, and business responsibility
• The realities of entrepreneurship and long-term sacrifice
• Fatherhood, identity, and raising children with intention
• Why integrity and accountability matter more than success
This conversation is for anyone building something bigger than themselves. Whether you’re growing a business, leading a family, or searching for deeper purpose, this episode speaks to the unseen realities behind titles and achievement.
This is not motivation.
This is real life, real leadership, and real faith.
Julians Interview
[00:00:00] Kate Germinal: They're the Germinal group, which is a real estate group based out of Tampa Bay, Florida, and they Okay. Should I just restart or just keep going?
[00:00:14] Kate Germinal: I'm not gonna say all that. I'm just gonna say Florida. 'cause we can refer 'em to anybody. Welcome to the season finale of the Mixed Realities Podcast. What a journey this first season has been filled with stories, leadership, faith, and the realities that shape us who we are between these titles and success.
[00:00:32] Kate Germinal: And today we're closing out with one person who's been the center of it all. My husband, my business partner, the father of our children, the visionary behind the germinal group companies, Julian Germinal. Before we talk about business purpose or legacy, I wanna start with something that brings it all back to the core.
[00:00:53] Kate Germinal: Who is Julian Germinal?
[00:00:56] Julian Germinal: Who am I first of all? [00:01:00] Kate, you're cute. Okay.
[00:01:01] Kate Germinal: I try, I'm trying. Yeah, I
[00:01:02] Julian Germinal: try. So who am I? I would say I am one. A man of God. I am a Christian. And when I say that, 'cause I know the world says a lot of people say they're Christian, but then there's actually people that are Christian and a man of God.
[00:01:25] Julian Germinal: We're not focused on the religion part of the thing. It's just like having such a good relationship with God that you follow pros To me, there's no cons. It's just living away with standard, but. Pros and cons. If you're gonna do something, I think you have to do it and accept it fully with the goods and the don't wants.
[00:01:44] Julian Germinal: Yeah. So that would be the first, and then second of all would be a father. I'm gonna take that back. A husband then a father, I gonna
[00:01:51] Julian Germinal: say,
[00:01:51] Julian Germinal: right? Yeah. We're supposed to do it in that order according to the Bible,
[00:01:55] Julian Germinal: right?
[00:01:55] Julian Germinal: Yeah. And I take very much, I take a lot of. Joy in, in that title. [00:02:00] I think God assigned me both those roles and I take a lot of joy in it because there's a lot of growing and you're dealing with people.
[00:02:08] Julian Germinal: And then third, which is my purpose, is business real estate development, coaching which is all revolving around our businesses. Yeah, I would say that sums me up as a whole. I think I wanna mention as well, I'm gonna add a fourth one in there. Just a person who really prides theirselves or not pride, loves relationships, and relationships means a lot to me.
[00:02:33] Julian Germinal: And operate out of integrity. I would say that's sums me all, I think, right? That's who I am.
[00:02:39] Kate Germinal: Yeah. I would agree.
[00:02:40] Julian Germinal: Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's it though. That's it. I appreciate you for, uh. Interviewing us on our, on our own platform. I interviewed you for the first episode and I think it's fitting that
[00:02:50] Kate Germinal: I'm excited to not be in the hot seat.
[00:02:52] Kate Germinal: Mm-hmm. I can kind of control the conversation, so I'm excited for ask you these questions. 'cause when I was in that seat, I was [00:03:00] nervous on what questions you would ask me.
[00:03:01] Julian Germinal: Really?
[00:03:02] Kate Germinal: Yep. So let's jump into it.
[00:03:03] Julian Germinal: Okay.
[00:03:04] Kate Germinal: So you just came back from a mission trip in El Salvador and you were gone a whole week.
[00:03:08] Kate Germinal: Was there a moment, or I guess I wanna say was there, I know there was a moment that broke you open in a way that you didn't expect.
[00:03:17] Julian Germinal: Wow. Man. I mean, there was a lot of moments. It was a very interesting mission trip. Definitely life changing, I would say. But the biggest moments I think that affected, affected me the most, and not necessarily in a negative way.
[00:03:35] Julian Germinal: But, um, we went to this, um, disability home, uh, that houses, babies, all the way to the elderly. And, um, I, we, we spent pretty much half a day there, uh, loving on people and praying and spending time with the uh, the people that were in the home. First of all, shout out to the employees.
[00:03:56] Julian Germinal: There were employees that worked at this home, and keep in mind, this is a [00:04:00] nonprofit, but they, there was a couple of them that had been working there for like 30 years. So that spoke a lot to me. But one of the bigger things that happened was, um, it was like a psych ward. If that's even a thing, I might not be saying it what the o Salvadorian people would call it.
[00:04:18] Julian Germinal: But we went in there, um, and we had to feed them. And there was people obviously with mental issues and mental problems that were in what appeared to be like cages. I had never in my life felt so helpless because I couldn't do anything about it. It was for their own good, but that was actually the reality of what life is.
[00:04:44] Julian Germinal: Not that you're in a cage, but. We live in this country and we don't, we're not in the reality of what everybody else is in. And this is where I think a lot of people that live here are, don't understand [00:05:00] because they don't know that reality is not where we are having government assistance.
[00:05:06] Julian Germinal: We can like you, you get help being fed housing. That's not reality. The rest for the rest of the world, the rest of the world do not have the luxuries that we have here, which going there now, I'm not originally from here, obviously, you know that. I came from a similar situation coming from Haiti and I.
[00:05:23] Julian Germinal: I got mad at myself a lot, uh, uh, uh, going on this trip because I realized like, man, I came from a place like this. And somehow when I started living here I started to feel like I was entitled to some of the things and privy to some of the things that we have now, which is definitely not something we should take for granted.
[00:05:40] Julian Germinal: God has blessed me, you. And everybody that's specifically live in this country though there's levels to it, but for the most part, like reality is reality and, and I wish everybody, and I urge every single person actually to go out, participate, go to these mission trips, go out and help. Go give your time [00:06:00] to help people who are less fortunate than you, and it will expose you to reality and I guarantee it will change your perspective on life.
[00:06:07] Kate Germinal: I was, um, one thing you did say when you came back, you were like there's so much joy, even though they're less fortunate. The only joy is that it comes from is the joy of the Lord.
[00:06:18] Julian Germinal: Yeah, it is. And I mean, being in church with these people, first of all the, the services were like almost four hours long.
[00:06:24] Kate Germinal: Yeah.
[00:06:25] Julian Germinal: But when we're doing worship, man, like they're going and it's like, and obviously we're participating with them, but you like it's all clapping and jumping and joy. And I'm like, man, like we're going out here to these rural villages that has nothing, no electricity. No water really? For real? And I'm like, man, these people are extremely joyful in their lacking of.
[00:06:46] Julian Germinal: What, what I would deem necessities like water, what
[00:06:49] Kate Germinal: people would have like joy in like material. Yeah. That really set stuff that, yeah. Shifted
[00:06:53] Julian Germinal: my perspective like, man, if these people could be happy, I mean, shoot, God has blessed me tremendously. I have no [00:07:00] excuses for not to be happy in my everyday life.
[00:07:03] Julian Germinal: I mean, I know it's mundane that we get in these routine with children, family and stuff, but like, man, you better be happy that you can go home and drink out of your water faucet. Yeah. Though I don't do that. Bougie.
[00:07:13] Kate Germinal: I remember they mentioned, um, even when you're in the shower, not to like gargle the water.
[00:07:18] Kate Germinal: 'cause you know, in the shower here, some people drink the shower water or, yeah, that's wild. Just like play with it. I don't know. But,
[00:07:25] Kate Germinal: Just and then having to worry about your kids, you know, doing that. Same thing.
[00:07:29] Julian Germinal: Yeah, but see they're used to it though. So the stuff that's in the water over there, they can, they can drink the water.
[00:07:35] Julian Germinal: It is just like if you're not from there, you're not living there if you drink the water, which ultimately when I came back, see, I didn't drink the water though, but yeah, my stomach was hurting for a couple days.
[00:07:43] Kate Germinal: Yeah, I've noticed. But
[00:07:45] Julian Germinal: it was a life change changing experience. I think everybody that lives here oughta, I don't know if that's a real realistic, but like everybody should have a chance or seek.
[00:07:56] Julian Germinal: To do mission trips and go help those who are less fortunate, but [00:08:00] ultimately it'll benefit you more than the people that you're actually helping.
[00:08:03] Kate Germinal: Yep. Mm-hmm. So how does your relationship with God shape how you lead our home and our businesses?
[00:08:12] Julian Germinal: I mean, that's a lot. The, my relationship with God, the Bible specifically tells you how you should lead your home.
[00:08:20] Julian Germinal: Right? It's a, God first. Man, second wife, third, then children, and then everything else kind of stems from there. It specifically says in the Bible, right, as a father, uh, my job is to lead, protect my household. And that doesn't mean Lord over your household, meaning. Like, I'm not here to be a dictator to anybody.
[00:08:44] Julian Germinal: I'm here to guide and protect emotionally, physically and help develop my family and put 'em in the best position as possible. And that's kind of how I take that approach. That's a lot of accountability to all of this as well. 'cause obviously it forces you to grow. I [00:09:00] don't come from a, a stable family, uh, and a background where it's caring families and like marriage that are healthy and stuff like that.
[00:09:06] Julian Germinal: Mm-hmm. It's like we're having to figure it out. Plus we started super young and we both come from different backgrounds. That I wouldn't say is ideal for setting the standard for how a healthy Christian marriage should look, should look like. Yeah, I mean, I think it, it's everything. I mean, I use that right to lead everything that we do.
[00:09:25] Julian Germinal: 'cause, I mean, faith is in everything that we do in our lives, our businesses, and everything. So I think it's. The foundation of who I am. So yeah, and
[00:09:33] Kate Germinal: I would say it definitely helps you in business. Like you said, you're more relational. Yeah, yeah. Than just transactional.
[00:09:40] Julian Germinal: Yeah. And, and in real estate and just in business, I think it's easy 'cause everybody's, like, I was taught growing, like going as I really started developing myself in business.
[00:09:49] Julian Germinal: Like value bring value, bring value. But I really noticed that this is things that are just, people are just saying. You're bringing value, but you're expecting something back so it becomes like a transaction. And [00:10:00] I kind of fell into the mode of that, which then I started having that be my identity. Like everything that I would do is basically based on a contract.
[00:10:08] Julian Germinal: Like, I'm bringing this to you, but I expect you to do something back of value. Brings something back. And don't get me wrong, that's not wrong per se, but you can't treat personal life like that. Now if I, if I do something for somebody and it's out of like generosity. Of course, like I, you shouldn't expect something back.
[00:10:25] Julian Germinal: But if it's a business transaction, Hey, I'm gonna do this for you. Can I expect this back and via a contract then? Yeah. Obviously you gotta uphold that. But um, I actually just merged that into just who my entire being. So it was like both, because I look at business and family. It is this, there's no, I don't really separate it.
[00:10:44] Julian Germinal: It's just like, are you gonna be a person of character? Do you have integrity, morality? Do you do things the right way?
[00:10:49] Kate Germinal: You don't just mold it for
[00:10:51] Julian Germinal: Yeah. So it's not like, oh, I'm gonna act a certain way in my personal life and act a certain way in business. Um, obviously just being professional, I'm saying, but it's like.
[00:10:59] Julian Germinal: I don't really [00:11:00] separate the two. 'cause it's just me. I'm the person how you, how do you separate personality being that I'm the person running a business, meaning I'm the one that makes it different. How can I take out my personality? 'cause that's what's building a business. Yeah. No, you shouldn't.
[00:11:13] Kate Germinal: Nobody should. No, I don't think so. Authentic. Yeah.
[00:11:15] Julian Germinal: Agreed.
[00:11:16] Kate Germinal: What does being a man of God really mean to you now after everything you've seen and done and how far you've come in your, um.
[00:11:25] Julian Germinal: Faith, a man of God to me means accountability to the word, to what the Bible says that a man should be. And typically, you're never gonna see somebody, for example, give their life over to Jesus.
[00:11:41] Julian Germinal: And, um, they're not the. They become worse than they were. Like it's always evolving, but you gotta be true to it though. So it's like we can't pick and choose what we want and then continue living a certain way. It's like for me, I never, half, I don't cuss anymore, so I'm not gonna, like, I never [00:12:00] half but do anything.
[00:12:00] Julian Germinal: So it's like if I'm doing something, it's fully in it, I'm not gonna have to do it. So if I say I'm gonna be a man of God and live and follow what Jesus did though, we'll never be perfect. Nobody's perfect. Mm-hmm. But we can, he set the standard and we are to follow that. I gotta do it even when I don't want to do it, or I don't want be nice to somebody or I don't wanna love on somebody.
[00:12:18] Julian Germinal: 'cause it's a lot of times I don't want to do that. But that's the standard that Jesus has set. If you think about right, if he did that to some of the people that he saved or us, because I mean, Jesus gave his life for us then, then we wouldn't be here because if he picked and choose who he did it for, he wouldn't have done it.
[00:12:35] Julian Germinal: So we have to go by the standard, not picking and choosing what we want. So, yeah.
[00:12:41] Kate Germinal: Okay, so now we're gonna jump back to kind of where it all started. So we started young high school sweethearts. Mm-hmm. Moved in when I was, well, you already had a place, but I moved in with Julian when I was 18.
[00:12:55] Kate Germinal: You were 20. What was going through your mind back then? Did you ever [00:13:00] imagine we'd be where we are now?
[00:13:03] Julian Germinal: Did I imagine we'd be here? No, absolutely not. But together? Yeah. I said to you like right when we were getting together that I wouldn't try to get in a relationship with you. You getting
[00:13:13] Kate Germinal: teary-eyed.
[00:13:13] Julian Germinal: Huh? You
[00:13:14] Kate Germinal: getting teary-eyed?
[00:13:14] Julian Germinal: No, ma'am. But I love you though. Um, love you
[00:13:17] Kate Germinal: too.
[00:13:18] Julian Germinal: Yeah. Anyways, I wasn't, uh, I told you like I wouldn't get with anybody unless I thought I could actually get married to him, and this is me seeing that. Even though at the time I really didn't understand what man of God and being a Christian, and yeah, trying to live by the Bible really meant the foundations were there in me because I grew up in like strictly religious churches.
[00:13:37] Julian Germinal: So I knew getting married to somebody was important. Even though I didn't really want to get married, to be honest with you, I just knew that, hey, I wouldn't be with somebody that I didn't, I didn't think I could actually get married to. It wasn't like a, ah, man, I'm really looking to get married. It was just really, you know, as we got into the relationship and stuff.
[00:13:53] Julian Germinal: You were on, you really wanted that. And I didn't, wasn't opposed to it. It's not like I was out here, you know, doing wrong. I was living basically like we were [00:14:00] married already, so it wouldn't have, didn't make a difference to me at the time. Obviously there's a big difference Yeah. When you get married. But I think God, that foundation was just kind of set, but I didn't think that we'd have everything that we have today.
[00:14:12] Julian Germinal: Geez, man. Uh, from the kids to the businesses. Sustaining our own lives on our own terms. Nah, I didn't know we'd be here or have, be blessed enough to have all this stuff, but thank God that we do. I thank God.
[00:14:26] Kate Germinal: Yeah.
[00:14:27] Julian Germinal: Yeah.
[00:14:27] Kate Germinal: I kind of seen that we would, because you're very like visionary.
[00:14:32] Kate Germinal: So back then I wasn't very, I didn't really have a vision. Mm-hmm. I would say like, you would come up with these ideas or plans and I'm like, that just seems crazy, but I like it. Okay. Um, so I'd like to support you in a way where you could. Kind of do step into those visions you had. Yeah. You have, which you have done.
[00:14:49] Kate Germinal: And then I know we always wanted a family.
[00:14:51] Kate Germinal: First we wanted like four or five, and then as we had two, we were like, okay, three's good. Yeah. And then we had three. And then now we're like, okay. [00:15:00] Surprise. Four,
[00:15:00] Julian Germinal: four. Surprise. But
[00:15:01] Kate Germinal: yeah, so
[00:15:02] Julian Germinal: Nonetheless, I mean, we're blessed, but to be able to have a, a be young and have a family of four children, that's a pretty big size family.
[00:15:10] Julian Germinal: Yeah. Um. Obviously I'm super grateful because I always knew for some reason God was gonna be blessing us with four biological children. And then as we became more established, I feel like later on we might adopt a child. 'Cause it's always been my way of like, I know I'm probably gonna do that just because when I was growing up, I was homeless and stuff.
[00:15:30] Julian Germinal: There were people who extended their hands out their homes to me and I'm like. I felt God is going to give me the opportunity to do the same thing for a young man. And I'm gonna, obviously as soon as it happened, I'm jumping on it. And I know you're right there. And props. I tell you, Kate you're the only wife that I've ever had, obviously, but I feel like it's not too common where people get a spouse that is so supportive in what they're doing and mesh so well together.
[00:15:57] Julian Germinal: Not saying it's been easy, obviously we've had. [00:16:00] Being so young, I think this is what I want to tell people. Like when you, obviously we lived together before we got married. I'm gonna tell my children not to do that. I think being honest. You just jumping in and getting married to somebody without being firm in God and your beliefs is gonna be challenging because the whole point of us moving in together was like, Hey, I wanna make sure that we're compatible before we go ahead and get married.
[00:16:26] Julian Germinal: But you can't. You can't do that. You can't test the waters like you're supposed to commit yourself to somebody, the good and the bad, and grow together. And that's what brings Unif unification. I hope I just said that word correctly.
[00:16:37] Kate Germinal: Unity. Unity. I don't know.
[00:16:38] Julian Germinal: Unity. Unity was the shorter word I wanna be.
[00:16:40] Julian Germinal: Okay. I wanna sound smart. Okay. Um,
[00:16:42] Kate Germinal: I like it.
[00:16:42] Julian Germinal: Yeah. But yeah, I think that's I'm gonna obviously tell my children, the Bible says you should be married before having sex and all that stuff. And, and I, I now fully understand why that is. Um, so I'm gonna tell my children to do the same thing, but we were super young.
[00:16:56] Julian Germinal: So that you have to give each other time to grow. I mean, [00:17:00] obviously anybody who's married, nobody's had a perfect marriage. You're gonna go through things, trials, tribulations. The biggest advice I can say, even though being 29 and you're 26 going on seven that you're together young. You gotta give each other grace.
[00:17:15] Julian Germinal: You're gonna have to love. Each other more than you're receiving at points in time. That specifically in age, I don't think have nothing to do with that. I think that's something that's ongoing. Yeah. But specifically growing, like we got together when we were in high school and got into adults, so we grew with each other.
[00:17:32] Julian Germinal: We went through these changes. And man, when God is like molding you into things, it's like, bro, you go through a lot and sometimes you have to love your spouse more than more than they can give back to you. And that's a, I think a maturity thing that I didn't know at one point in time. Yeah, I see. Um, and you go through the same type of things, but now we're like, every day is a continued growth, but you do have to love and be patient with your spouse.
[00:17:56] Julian Germinal: I think that would be the biggest piece of advice. But yeah, you have to get married, bro. Like, I [00:18:00] don't recommend going around sleeping with a bunch of people and all that stuff. It's just not good for your soul and your spirit, um, to be doing that type of stuff. Which is exactly why, just develop a relationship with Jesus, develop a relationship, go after that hard, super, super hard.
[00:18:17] Julian Germinal: Everything else will fall in place. Not easy, but you will develop into your purpose just by seeking the relationship. Boom. Yeah.
[00:18:26] Kate Germinal: Like that little end off there.
[00:18:28] Kate Germinal: Uh, we were just 20 and 22 when we got married, some might say that's too young. What do you think the blessings and challenges are of getting married in early in life?
[00:18:40] Julian Germinal: All right. First of all, let me ask, who is some, who says that's too young?
[00:18:46] Kate Germinal: Maybe some elders. Some
[00:18:48] Julian Germinal: elders. I don't think so. I would
[00:18:49] Kate Germinal: say when we got married, people were like, oh, like you guys are getting married. Yeah, like. You're young. Are you sure? Uhhuh. So that those are the people I'm talking about.
[00:18:59] Julian Germinal: Oh, am I?
[00:18:59] Julian Germinal: Sure. [00:19:00] But obviously though, can those, those couldn't have been people that were following price. Right. I feel like
[00:19:06] Kate Germinal: So it all goes back.
[00:19:07] Julian Germinal: Yeah.
[00:19:08] Kate Germinal: Okay. Yeah.
[00:19:08] Julian Germinal: It's, you're too young. Yeah. All right, bro. I mean, it's wild. 'cause like right after high school, man, we got after life, but it was kind of,
[00:19:16] Kate Germinal: yeah. I don't wanna rely on, or I don't wanna talk.
[00:19:18] Kate Germinal: Too much about those people, but Yeah.
[00:19:20] Julian Germinal: Yeah. No, no. Um, I mean, but obviously you don't know what, you know, situations. Yeah. You can only give advice on where you are been through, which is why, hey,
[00:19:27] Speaker 6: yeah.
[00:19:28] Julian Germinal: You don't want to take advice from everybody, right? You take everything, digest it and see if that information belongs to you.
[00:19:34] Julian Germinal: But it's perfectly fine to say, Hey. I rebuke that. I don't want that you,
[00:19:38] Kate Germinal: but Oh, thank you.
[00:19:39] Julian Germinal: Or when somebody is pouring into you and it is what you need, I would go as far as to speaking and say, Hey, I do receive that from you, because the, the, these things lay up in your spirit and they get into your genetics and form who you are and how you act.
[00:19:52] Julian Germinal: But go ahead and repeat the question again. I just wanted to ask
[00:19:54] Kate Germinal: Well, that, that was, I, I agree with that one.
[00:19:57] Julian Germinal: Yeah. But you, uh, the question was, well, can you repeat the question? [00:20:00]
[00:20:01] Kate Germinal: What do you think are the blessings and challenges of getting married early in life?
[00:20:05] Julian Germinal: Okay, so I didn't answer that part. I was asking who, who are the who's?
[00:20:09] Julian Germinal: That's where we went off to. Oh. So the blessings are gonna be. You're building with one person. I mean, starting out so young, being children and growing up together I think obviously is ex, there's a lot of things that are extremely positive in that, but the negatives are gonna be the we're growing.
[00:20:29] Julian Germinal: Changing and being molded into who we wanna be and we have to have patience with one another as we go through these things. I mean, how many different endeavors that we go into, how many businesses have we started?
[00:20:40] Kate Germinal: How many one,
[00:20:41] Julian Germinal: the impatience, right? Of being impatient. The thing, how many
[00:20:43] Kate Germinal: homes we've moved
[00:20:44] Julian Germinal: to homes, houses, cars, things, cars that we've been through.
[00:20:48] Julian Germinal: Um, and a lot of it, I'm gonna take the. Take the, take accountability that, hey, I had a, a material, a, I was materialistic at one point. I felt like that's what brought success to somebody. Mm-hmm. But it was, you [00:21:00] know, I wasn't right man. I was in a bad place. You know, people, my father, mother coaches friends.
[00:21:08] Julian Germinal: Associates, almost every single people that I was in my life was basically depositing that I'm nothing, I'm not gonna do anything with my life. And I felt like
[00:21:18] Kate Germinal: you felt like you had to prove
[00:21:18] Julian Germinal: I had to validate that. Yeah. With materials and money. Um, which is why we got after it so hard. And we got out, I got outta high school and boom, like took off, like out to making money, which we learned our
[00:21:29] Kate Germinal: lessons on that.
[00:21:30] Kate Germinal: Oh yeah. So
[00:21:31] Julian Germinal: Money is just, money is only good for the good that it can do. It ain't something that people are, you, you hear terms like, chase the bag. Nah bro, go chase a relationship with God. And I don't wanna be that guy that like, oh yeah, you sound all cringey and all, Hey, this is what it is. I wish all of you guys can experience the growth that I've went to or through by just accepting the relationship and developing a relationship with Jesus.
[00:21:54] Julian Germinal: Because the impurities, the things that I struggled with, the lusting, the [00:22:00] uh, the hatred being, the biggest thing that I had in me is this. It's getting dissipated, it's been gone. It's like you give that up and like, Hey Jesus, here take this. I can't hold it anymore. 'cause that weight is heavy, man. Like when you get rid of it, you notice how heavy it was.
[00:22:14] Julian Germinal: It just slows you down like a slug. And I'm like, man, once, once you fully give it up, you just realize like, wow.
[00:22:21] Kate Germinal: And it's not so much of a rollercoaster.
[00:22:23] Julian Germinal: Yeah, exactly. Like you're steady, you can move at a steady pace. Um,
[00:22:27] Kate Germinal: because like before there'd be, good weeks or good months
[00:22:30] Julian Germinal: or days
[00:22:31] Kate Germinal: or yeah, hours or eight days, hours,
[00:22:33] Julian Germinal: and then the rest of it sucks.
[00:22:34] Julian Germinal: And then the next,
[00:22:34] Kate Germinal: it's like something hits you and you're like, you take it and it's just, now we take it, but we, before we used to like. Everybody could see it. You wear it on your sleeves, it affect the kids, affect the marriage business. Like
[00:22:47] Julian Germinal: you pouring all that nonsense onto your children. And I don't
[00:22:49] Kate Germinal: like rollercoasters in general, so I do,
[00:22:50] Julian Germinal: I like rollercoasters.
[00:22:51] Julian Germinal: It's fun. I can those,
[00:22:51] Kate Germinal: yeah.
[00:22:52] Julian Germinal: But be careful with the kids man. Like our biggest responsibilities as adults or God has given us little tiny souls to [00:23:00] nurture and develop. They're not ours. They belong to him, but he's been given, he, he's given you the biggest responsibility that a human can have, and that's to nurture another human being.
[00:23:11] Julian Germinal: So take that serious man and your relationship, how you treat your spouse, how you treat your wife, husband, all that stuff, your friends, the communities that you're involved in, the things that you're allowing to be deposited into you and your children. By things I mean words, those are super impactful.
[00:23:27] Julian Germinal: I truly believe when it's time for us to answer to God, God's not gonna care about what Kate's responsibility was. That ultimately like our responsibilities that he's given us doesn't balance off of one, one another. That's why like being a good son, being a good father, all those things are separate. You don't get to react off of somebody not doing their responsibilities, and then that means you don't do your responsibilities 'cause God gave you responsibilities, not.
[00:23:52] Julian Germinal: Us we're each individuals, right?
[00:23:55] Julian Germinal: Yeah. But that's, that would be my answer. Long, long-winded.
[00:23:59] Kate Germinal: How do we [00:24:00] balance it all without losing our spark or I guess our, our patients.
[00:24:05] Julian Germinal: Alright. Vulnerability time here, right? I can't, I don't know if I can answer that. We're going through it right now. Not saying the spark thing, as we, this is another, I guess, pro and con of getting together so young. We were set in an identity where we were both playing sports and doing this and that. And then once we got out of that, we started having a family. And I think. For me, I think I identified in my fatherhood a little too much in business and working a little too much that I didn't pay attention, or, and this is something we're actively working on, is like
[00:24:38] Speaker 6: right,
[00:24:39] Julian Germinal: putting each other before everything else because it is healthy for the children as well.
[00:24:43] Julian Germinal: Like we all focus on becoming better parents, on doing, doing right by our kids that we don't understand that, hey, if you just put your spouse first. You treat them well, they benefit off of the energy and the interaction from a mother and father way more than, than just trying to [00:25:00] individually focus on them and our identities.
[00:25:02] Julian Germinal: I would say your identity for sure like became on being a mom and not really like tending to the needs and same thing.
[00:25:10] Julian Germinal: Right. Uh, tending to the needs of your spouse, which we also got needs, which like when I
[00:25:13] Kate Germinal: was in the thick of it, I'm like, no, you're being like, you're, inconsiderate or this and that, but that was back.
[00:25:19] Kate Germinal: Mm-hmm. Forever ago. But it's like. No. 'cause when we work on each other, that's when we keep our spark. But when we not, like the spark is gone.
[00:25:27] Julian Germinal: Yeah. And then marriage stinks, man. Yeah. I mean, you're just around somebody. It's, and it's not like you could just get up and walk away. It's just like, dang man, this person, we all want gratitude.
[00:25:36] Julian Germinal: We want recognition for doing things that we're supposed to do. I think men specifically and I think it's important for little boys to see that happening in a home where like a wife is like, Hey. I see what you're doing. I'm proud of you. Good job. You're supporting the family. You're doing this. Like, the kids need to see that because they need to know, this is what I need to go after as well, is like a wife or a spouse that's gonna pour in my cup all the time.
[00:25:59] Julian Germinal: [00:26:00] 'cause those things, right? We work our tails off. So it's nice to be recognized by the people that we're working our tails off for. So that's gonna be it. It is very, i it is very important that, um, you know, you, you prioritize your spouse because that's what God asks us to do. And there's a reason. All knowing, ask us to do these things.
[00:26:17] Julian Germinal: Um, yeah, I mean you got,
[00:26:19] Kate Germinal: um, three pair of, three pair of eyes looking up at you.
[00:26:23] Julian Germinal: Oh, yeah. Right now until it's about to be four boys. Yeah. And speaking of, I'm so excited to have my daughter, man. I can't wait. I've been hearing everybody. Say, Hey, it's gonna soften you or soften you up. Yeah, because I'm pretty, I'm not, I mean, I'm pretty rigid with my kids.
[00:26:37] Julian Germinal: Like, I, I talk to my kids and I'm like, Hey boys, what do you wanna do? Emerson is big into sports right now, so I'm just like, Hey, come on, come on bro. We gotta do this. We gotta do this. Love you, but we gotta do this, we gotta do this, we gotta do this. And I guess, uh, little Amelia is supposed to. Softened me up, but,
[00:26:51] Kate Germinal: and I hope she slows down the boys.
[00:26:53] Julian Germinal: I hope so too. That yeah, they're just on go all the time. Yeah. I'm glad we had kids young though. This was the very reason why I couldn't imagine being like [00:27:00] 60 and with a five year olds, or 50 or 40 something because you know, the energy dwindles down. I notice a difference.
[00:27:06] Kate Germinal: Oh yeah.
[00:27:06] Julian Germinal: Yeah.
[00:27:07] Kate Germinal: Big time.
[00:27:08] Kate Germinal: Uh, so how do you switch between CEO mode and dad mode?
[00:27:13] Julian Germinal: I think.
[00:27:15] Kate Germinal: Is it an easy switch?
[00:27:16] Julian Germinal: No, I don't. It's not an easy switch, and the switch is not really as aggressive as one would think because as a CEO, you're also fathering a company because a company is nothing but a secondary child. And I say secondary 'cause obviously you're real children come first.
[00:27:33] Julian Germinal: Like you're supposed to nurture. When you first start a company, it's a baby. You grow it, you feed it, you deposit it into, when it grows, it grows, it grows. And the people that come into it is like the cells of the body for the company. You have to nurture, you nurture it, you have to exercise. And I hope these are translating to where people understand what I'm saying.
[00:27:50] Julian Germinal: You have to nurture it and exercise it and put a lot into it for it to grow to become a teenager where it's a little bit self-sufficient, but now the mental aspect of things become. [00:28:00] More important than ever is like when they're in those teen 12, 13, 14 years. I think it's literally the same exact thing of just raising a child as doing a company, but switching, obviously there's a difference.
[00:28:11] Julian Germinal: I have to come home and have to stop, stop attacking the world or attacking things like I am doing in a, in a, in a, uh, business realm versus coming home. I know there's a difference. I'm gonna just be honest. I really don't know what the difference is, but I know there's a big difference, but it's just not as aggressive.
[00:28:29] Julian Germinal: It's not like, so, oh, I flip off a switch and I have to act like a different person. I
[00:28:32] Kate Germinal: feel like it, it could be a switch when you walk in the door. Like if, you know you're just handling something in the car, in a driveway about something, you know, a deal go wrong or something. Some days be gone. So, and then you walk in the door and the boys are happy to see you.
[00:28:46] Kate Germinal: Uh, dad yesterday. Dad, I wanna go play football outside. Oh
[00:28:49] Julian Germinal: yeah. Emerson
[00:28:49] Kate Germinal: Oh. Switch. Yeah. So sometimes,
[00:28:52] Julian Germinal: sometimes I'm a little instant, sometimes I'm a little tired. Yeah. Yeah, switching it is very important and that's something we have to be conscious of. I'm gonna have to just be [00:29:00] honest and say I'm working on that for sure, like every day.
[00:29:03] Julian Germinal: And I think that's something that's gonna have to happen all for the rest of my life. Um, because we're doing stuff, we're working and it's, I don't think we can just abruptly shut it off 'cause we still dealing with this stuff, but you definitely don't wanna bring the stress of it home. But that's a practice thing, I think.
[00:29:17] Julian Germinal: And I'm still, which is not
[00:29:17] Kate Germinal: gonna be like ideal situations. Yeah. But sometimes you may just need that fresh air. Throw the ball off five minutes. Yeah. And that does help though, that that does help. You
[00:29:26] Julian Germinal: may not realize it's what you need, but like going out, playing with the kids rough housing and that's why I love having boys and stuff, you know, I'd be throwing them,
[00:29:32] Kate Germinal: but not right before bedtime.
[00:29:34] Kate Germinal: Like that's, yeah, no, we turn it up. We're turning them
[00:29:36] Julian Germinal: every, at all, at all, all points of the time. They should be able to just abruptly. Go to bed.
[00:29:42] Kate Germinal: Yeah. Not
[00:29:42] Julian Germinal: realistic, but I love playing, playing Especi with the boys. Love with the kids domain. I love them.
[00:29:45] Kate Germinal: Yeah.
[00:29:46] Julian Germinal: Yeah.
[00:29:47] Kate Germinal: So if one of our boys grows up and says, dad, I don't wanna work for anyone, I wanna build something like you did, what advice would you give them?
[00:29:56] Julian Germinal: Oh my goodness. That'd be a dream come true. I don't want my [00:30:00] kids working for anybody. Not nec And I'm not saying working for people is a bad thing, but I would be happy and also sad 'cause I'm like, okay. The challenge is, yeah, are you not gonna try to, you don't wanna do what I'm doing? Oh, okay. You want to take this over?
[00:30:10] Julian Germinal: 'cause I mean, obviously we're doing all this. Go ahead and take it over, bro. Or work in it or do something. But hey, if they don't, they want to do, do, do. He don't
[00:30:18] Kate Germinal: work for you. He wants to.
[00:30:19] Julian Germinal: He's not working for me. Yeah, he is working for himself. 'cause this is. Is there thing he wants
[00:30:23] Kate Germinal: to start his own? Well,
[00:30:24] Julian Germinal: if you wanna start your own thing, I'm just as happy as well.
[00:30:27] Julian Germinal: I'm gonna help as much as I can. You do have to go through the thick and thin of it. 'cause that's what develops you into a real owner, a real CEO of like going through things. Now you're not alone, right? You have me to help you so you're not completely in the dark, but I'm not gonna be making problems go away.
[00:30:44] Julian Germinal: The biggest job and responsibility we have as business owners is to solve problems. So your problem solving skills and traits has to be constantly being worked on and refined. And the only way that's gonna happen is. Actually solving problems.
[00:30:57] Kate Germinal: And that's a way to grow too.
[00:30:58] Julian Germinal: Yeah. Yeah. So I'll be [00:31:00] happy.
[00:31:00] Julian Germinal: I mean, shoot, my kids wanna do anything. They want to be their own boss. Or even an entrepreneur. An entrepreneur want to help develop and grow something, but don't own it. I'll be happy about that. Um, hopefully they want to, work with us, but I wouldn't be really too mad if they just, Hey, I wanna do my own thing.
[00:31:17] Julian Germinal: Go ahead, son. Go. Do you?
[00:31:19] Kate Germinal: Okay. What's one misconception you had about fatherhood before actually becoming one?
[00:31:27] Julian Germinal: Obviously you don't understand or you don't know a lot of things until you have your own children. Um, but I think, I thought fatherhood before I had kids, which is gonna be, oh, we're gonna go play at the park and do all this stuff and do all the fun stuff and then go home.
[00:31:42] Julian Germinal: That's it.
[00:31:43] Kate Germinal: The packing before the park. Oh my goodness. Love.
[00:31:46] Julian Germinal: Yeah, it's a lot. It is a lot, but I mean, I'd
[00:31:47] Kate Germinal: say motherhood's like the same. You don't know how
[00:31:50] Julian Germinal: you just, oh, I wanna get my kids how hard
[00:31:51] Kate Germinal: or how challenging it is and rewarding at the same time. And it's just the rewards, like the battle obviously
[00:31:56] Julian Germinal: outweigh the growing and the nurturing.
[00:31:59] Julian Germinal: Like, [00:32:00] bro you, if you become a parent and you're not struggling hard, even if you had perfect example. Then something's happening that's not right. 'cause it's for it. It forces you to grow and develop. It doesn't matter who you are.
[00:32:14] Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
[00:32:14] Julian Germinal: It's just my opinion, which is probably facts. Um. Yeah, like if you're not really struggling hard, even if you have perfect parents or semi perfect, I'm gonna put that in quotations.
[00:32:24] Julian Germinal: There's no such thing as perfect parents. But if you have a good example of like what to do, you're still gonna struggle. They can't make that go away for you. So just know if you're not constantly drawing and uncomfortable, then something is not right there.
[00:32:37] Kate Germinal: Mm-hmm.
[00:32:38] Julian Germinal: Mm-hmm.
[00:32:39] Kate Germinal: What's one legacy you hope to leave behind in family and in business
[00:32:44] Julian Germinal: Integrity.
[00:32:46] Julian Germinal: I wanna leave the legacy of like, wow, this dude had incredible integrity and character. Um, and I want that for both family and business. 'cause the separation from me is not really existent. Yeah, [00:33:00] that, that would be my, my answer.
[00:33:01] Kate Germinal: Okay.
[00:33:04] Kate Germinal: What is one misconception you had about entrepreneurship before you? Stepped into that role
[00:33:11] Julian Germinal: that I'm gonna start it and then get rich tomorrow. Nah. No, that's not a thing. Uh, there's rarely in life outside of lottery and or inheritance that you just wake up one day and you're rich. It's, you start a business, you're poorer than you were before, and I shouldn't have used poor, let's say, broke.
[00:33:33] Julian Germinal: You're broker than you were before, and you're broke for you're negative five, six years. Before you start, I think being able to cover yourself and cover your bills solely on the business, and then probably within the next decade is probably when you start assuming money and wealth. Mm-hmm. Because you ain't just have to invest so much in this company, in the companies that you're doing.
[00:33:54] Julian Germinal: Some are luckier than others the the benefit of like. Who you know, comes into [00:34:00] play to speed that process up. If you know people that can help open doors for you quicker than you just getting it out the mud and like developing these relationships like you don't know, uh, Donald Trump or this person, that can honestly open some doors for you to speed up that process.
[00:34:14] Julian Germinal: But I think. I just thought, man, which is why at the beginning we did so many businesses and within two, three months I'm like, nah, this ain't working. Mm-hmm. Let's go. Terrible mentality to have by the way, but you don't know what you don't know until you're forced to know.
[00:34:28] Kate Germinal: Yeah.
[00:34:29] Julian Germinal: Yeah.
[00:34:29] Kate Germinal: And I feel like you really have to be consistent in that because after, you know, months or sometimes years.
[00:34:37] Kate Germinal: Of, I mean, you're getting paid, you could be getting paid or not getting paid, but it's just going back into the business or kind of catching up. Yep. I feel like that's where we've really seen being consistent.
[00:34:46] Kate Germinal: And actually seeing, the fruit.
[00:34:48] Julian Germinal: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, just 'cause you see the fruit doesn't mean you're rich either.
[00:34:52] Julian Germinal: And you could be making a million dollars a year, like in your third, fourth year. But
[00:34:56] Kate Germinal: are you happy? No, I'm just kidding.
[00:34:58] Julian Germinal: You're having to reinvest that money back in [00:35:00] the business. It's like you're still broke even though you're making a bunch of money. Mm-hmm. Or you don't have as much as you would want to have.
[00:35:06] Julian Germinal: It's, it's a lot of sacrificing just like. Following Jesus, you sacrifice. Developing, building, family. It's a lot of sacrificing. 'cause what The biggest sacrifice that Jesus made was like giving his own life for us and then going to hell for us. Like accept our, accepting our consequences for us and then overcoming those things.
[00:35:25] Julian Germinal: Um,
[00:35:26] Kate Germinal: what, what do, what do you think about having one foot in and one foot out?
[00:35:30] Julian Germinal: Me personally,
[00:35:32] Kate Germinal: because like, just say as far as. I know anything usually that doesn't go. But what about being an entrepreneur?
[00:35:39] Julian Germinal: Uh, that's non-existent. I think, first of all, I can't stand people who are just half foot in, half foot out type of people because that's like, you're gonna test the waters.
[00:35:49] Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
[00:35:50] Julian Germinal: How you really gonna fully test the waters? 'cause you could dip a toe in the water and it might seem freezing cold, but that's 'cause you just touched the surface. [00:36:00] Waters aren't consistent. Temperatures throughout the whole thing. Like, bro, get your butt in there and jump,
[00:36:04] Kate Germinal: especially if somebody peed over in that corner.
[00:36:05] Kate Germinal: And accept the
[00:36:05] Julian Germinal: risk if you want to be an entrepreneur. And this is what a, what pisses me off. Everybody want to be an entrepreneur because of the title. Mm-hmm. I don't even know why the titles enticing to people, but it's like, bro. What a risk that, well, I
[00:36:19] Kate Germinal: feel like a lot of people say that and they don't even have, they don't even work.
[00:36:23] Kate Germinal: Yeah. And you're not even taking the risk like I'm an entrepreneur, bro. Being
[00:36:25] Julian Germinal: an entrepreneur, you, you, you're a risk taker. You have to take risks. You can't half foot in, half foot out. First of all, I won't work with nobody like that. I'm like, I'm not gonna partner with you. You, if you just, 'cause
[00:36:36] Kate Germinal: you always, I mean, you don't have that much motivation or like vulnerability.
[00:36:40] Kate Germinal: Or the, because you can always go back to where you were. If it's not working out, like if, if you think of, but if you're an entrepreneur, you don't have an option. This is what you want. This is, it has to work out.
[00:36:49] Julian Germinal: Let me give an example, right. If you think of a swordsmith, right, hammering like and shaping the sword after it's hot, boiling hot, like you have to shape it.
[00:36:56] Julian Germinal: You have to shape it. I'm like, bro, how are you gonna go through the process of [00:37:00] shaping if you're not fully committed to what you're doing? That means it's not serious enough for you. So that mean you're not what you're claiming. And I know COVID made it a thing to, oh, entrepreneur and this, this and that.
[00:37:10] Julian Germinal: I'm like, bro, do you know what that means? Do you know how much sacrifice mm-hmm. It takes to have that title and it for it to be valid? It's just, again, my opinion, but I'm like, bro, I'm not working with somebody who doesn't. Fully commit to what they're doing. That's like, and you know, when you start working with people, you might as well be married to 'em.
[00:37:26] Julian Germinal: You get to know the bad, the ugly, the good. Like we struggle, we go through hardship together. I'm like, you don't, you're not even fully committed. That's like me saying we're in a relationship and I'm just like, yeah, I'm gonna keep dating outside though. But I'm like, I'll just be home with you. Right.
[00:37:40] Julian Germinal: Like, how is that that's not, it's not, that's not any form of commitment, bro. Like you're just doing something and obviously. That pisses me off. I don't like people who do that. Um, yeah, and I'm not gonna say I don't like people. We've seen it and doesn't love people. It doesn't work out. But I'm not gonna get myself in any situation with you because you don't know how to convince yourself to nothing.
[00:37:57] Julian Germinal: And to me, that doesn't make a man, brother, [00:38:00] or, I mean, I'm not gonna speak on a woman 'cause I don't know what makes a woman. But it doesn't make a man if you can't convince yourself to nothing. Love you though.
[00:38:09] Kate Germinal: What's one skill or habit you wish you learned sooner?
[00:38:13] Julian Germinal: I wished I learned, uh, how to love myself sooner. I hated myself for a long time and I'm still working on loving myself as we speak. I didn't have a fatherly figure in my life really up until. A little bit ago I have somebody who's
[00:38:31] Kate Germinal: like your father was around. 'cause I know people that know each Julian are gonna be like, your dad was around.
[00:38:36] Kate Germinal: Just 'cause your dad is present in the hou, like just comes home, sleeps in the bed, and then goes back. That doesn't mean your father's in your life. Yeah, that was
[00:38:44] Julian Germinal: just for a little bit. I mean, I'm not gonna get into my testimony or nothing, but it's like for a little bit of time while I was in the home.
[00:38:51] Julian Germinal: That was, yeah, he was there tormenting. But like the emotional connection, the things that you need from a father. I didn't get none of that stuff, man. I seen him dysfunctional, [00:39:00] uh, and how not to, how not to treat people and family. But as far as like, yeah, a good father, I'm just now get seeing what that is and that's a person.
[00:39:11] Julian Germinal: Who is a, it could be my actual father offered that up to me. I'm gonna say shout out. Pastor Carlos. And I'm really, it's weird because when you get a relationship like that, I don't really like people doing things or giving things to me specifically when I can't give nothing back. What do I have to give to somebody who's already super wise, who is, um, wanting to pour into me like a fatherly?
[00:39:32] Julian Germinal: Love type of thing. What can I give you, man? Like you already, you're already wise. I can't, I feel like I can't really contribute something of value to that, but this is where I'm gonna accept. Hey, bro, sometimes it's okay to let people pour into you. Um, shout out. Again, uh, pastor Carlos, I call him Pops.
[00:39:49] Julian Germinal: But uh, he's pouring that into me and showing me like really how to love and pour into my own children by showing me, by doing it for me. And to me, he prays for me. Mm-hmm. Um, and [00:40:00] it's weird 'cause I'm like, how am I supposed to act here? It's like, it's weird 'cause I'm never had a relationship like that yet.
[00:40:04] Julian Germinal: It is like I'm getting it now. He's being patient with me. He's a great father, has multiple children that are great people, successful people and he's wanting to do that at no cost. And that was weird to me at first. I'm like, why would you spend time doing that when I can't give you anything of value back?
[00:40:21] Julian Germinal: And that's just me saying that. I don't know what he's getting from this, but it's just, it's just odd. But I appreciate it. I appreciate it immensely though. 'cause it's showing me how to really do the same for my children.
[00:40:31] Kate Germinal: I feel like you're also learning to say no.
[00:40:34] Julian Germinal: I am definitely learning to say no. Um, because I also felt like, and this is a lesson that I also learned from Pops, he said that I'm not anybody's Messiah.
[00:40:46] Julian Germinal: I'm not, I'm not my family's Jesus. And I always felt the need for my sphere that I was the person that was gonna give the opportunity to break free from generational curses, which I'm really starting to learn that. There's really no such thing [00:41:00] as a generational curse, um, but generational poverty mentally and financially.
[00:41:06] Julian Germinal: But I'm not that, I'm not Jesus. I can't rescue people. I I'm not here to give salvation to people. I receive this salvation from Jesus, and it's just a choice that you can make as well. But I can't provide that to anybody. I'm not Jesus friend. I can't carry a, I can't carry that. Mm-hmm. That's a super, that's a title that no human can carry and we can't even begin to imagine the weight that comes with that.
[00:41:27] Julian Germinal: So once he said that to me, it settled in. I'm like, dang, I'm not Jesus for my family or my friends. Yeah. And. I think that helps me to say no to people is like you're expecting. I always felt like people were draining. You always felt
[00:41:41] Kate Germinal: like you had to be the the problem solver.
[00:41:43] Julian Germinal: Yeah, which is draining.
[00:41:44] Julian Germinal: Like I always felt like people were draining me, but never pouring back in my cup. Like also my expectation played a part in that as well, but like nobody ever pours in my cup and just like, dang, bro. Like you get to a point where you're empty and you're just like, why am I feeling like this? Because everybody's, Hey, got [00:42:00] you got from me, what you got from me, but never pouring back in.
[00:42:02] Julian Germinal: And it's different when people start to pour back in. So
[00:42:04] Speaker 6: I
[00:42:05] Julian Germinal: think settling in that is, uh. It's been helping me tremendously to say, no, I can't or I don't want to.
[00:42:11] Kate Germinal: Yeah. And I've been liking you say that, that's awesome. Not me, but to others.
[00:42:15] Julian Germinal: Yeah. Yeah. I love you baby.
[00:42:17] Kate Germinal: Love you too. What's something that surprises people about you after they get to know you?
[00:42:22] Kate Germinal: So I feel like when you just went on the mission trip, a lot of people, I mean, you spend, you see them every week at church, if not more. Mm-hmm. Um. You got to spend time with them for a whole week and they've come up to you and said, you know, Julie, I didn't know this about you. Or not just them, but everybody.
[00:42:38] Kate Germinal: What do, what's something that's come up quite often that people say?
[00:42:42] Julian Germinal: Um, I think that the dry humor, I'm a very dry, literal person. I love laughing and making people laugh. I, that went away because I'm in a business where I deal a lot with older people and that doesn't, um. I now, this is just [00:43:00] me probably doing that, but it doesn't translate well to like business because I'm young.
[00:43:05] Julian Germinal: I want people to take me serious. Right. And I think if I'm just witty and dry, like making people laugh all the time, that might not translate well. But I think that's just my perception of things. Um, but I, I kind of opened up, I'm like, man, I love the dry humor. I throw a dry, dry joke at people. It's like.
[00:43:21] Julian Germinal: That's always who I've been, just a person who's always loved bringing laughter and happiness around and I really let myself do that. Because obviously you spend eight days every second of
[00:43:31] Kate Germinal: Right.
[00:43:31] Julian Germinal: The, your waking moment is with this group of people. It's hard to not show yourself. And I feel like
[00:43:36] Kate Germinal: for you, some people may are easily.
[00:43:39] Kate Germinal: More easy for them to trust others. But I feel like for you, you have to have a few layers peeled back before you can,
[00:43:47] Julian Germinal: yeah. I, I like
[00:43:48] Kate Germinal: open with somebody. Yeah. No, that's facts. Some people are very open with anybody. Um, but I feel like you have to have peel them maybe a few layers and then them do the same for you before you actually.
[00:43:58] Kate Germinal: Are who you are.
[00:43:59] Julian Germinal: Yeah, I agree. Not are [00:44:00] who
[00:44:00] Kate Germinal: you are, but you know, before I,
[00:44:01] Julian Germinal: I let 'em into the personal, like, yeah, this is my persona, real personality outside of working. Right. Um, yeah, I, I, I agree with that. Um, and I think just for the same, for everybody else, like until you get somebody to start joking around, that's why dinners are, are very important.
[00:44:14] Julian Germinal: Like you invite somebody out to eat and you have real conversation with them. You start peeling back those layers and you get to know people. That doesn't happen overnight, and it shouldn't. Um, but once you get to know the real people, I think doing business is easier. Having connection is easier. 'cause it's like, Hey, this is me.
[00:44:29] Julian Germinal: This is what you get, and I'm annoying. Yeah. I like annoying people. It's fun to me. Michelle's
[00:44:32] Kate Germinal: gonna say, you're annoying,
[00:44:33] Julian Germinal: right? I am annoying. Yeah. Like I, the, the humor gets annoying. I'm like, and that's a part of it from me. Like, until I annoy you, we're not friends real, so I'm gonna annoy you. Yeah.
[00:44:41] Julian Germinal: If we're friends. All love though. Love you. Yeah. Everybody. My peeps.
[00:44:46] Kate Germinal: Yeah, I know the boys for sure get annoyed when you, because you're more like hands-on annoying for them, like,
[00:44:51] Julian Germinal: oh yeah, they're annoying. They're definitely annoyed at me
[00:44:52] Kate Germinal: throwing around this and that. Stop.
[00:44:54] Julian Germinal: Mm-hmm. I love it though, man.
[00:44:56] Julian Germinal: That's my job. I got annoyed you.
[00:44:58] Kate Germinal: They surely missed it when you were gone. [00:45:00] Cra asked you like, ask me 20 times a day. Where's daddy? Where's daddy? Where's my daddy here?
[00:45:05] Julian Germinal: That makes me feel good to hear that. And it does make me feel good. It's like. I did miss my kids. I know. That was like, I miss my whole family.
[00:45:12] Kate Germinal: Yeah.
[00:45:13] Julian Germinal: But I'm like, man, waking up in Crimson. Just the yelling at him all the time. 'cause he's just never listening. It's just re
[00:45:18] Kate Germinal: re redirecting.
[00:45:19] Julian Germinal: Re there you go. Redirecting. I throw a little bit of yell in there, here and there. Yeah. A lot of times
[00:45:23] Kate Germinal: especially for crim.
[00:45:24] Julian Germinal: Yeah. He, he doesn't listen, but it is just the joy of it.
[00:45:26] Julian Germinal: I miss it. It's like, oh man. With my creme or the hugs, the fist bumps, like I miss my buddy.
[00:45:32] Julian Germinal: And all of 'em, all of 'em. It's just a joy. I miss him. But I'm glad that he miss me too though.
[00:45:36] Kate Germinal: Yeah, they did. When you think about the future, what's something you're really excited for when it comes to our family?
[00:45:43] Julian Germinal: Freedom man. Being able to just all of us get up and go and go on a mission trip and go serve people. I'm definitely a serving type of person, like a leader, serving type of leader. I love serving and bringing things together for the people that I am serving. [00:46:00] But the real true freedom of being able to just get, obviously we gotta, we got businesses.
[00:46:03] Julian Germinal: We can't just get up and leave anytime we feel all of us. There has to be a body that's actually still working here. Not yet. Not yet. But we're working on that. I'm excited to see what God has, God has in store for us after these next couple seasons. I'm not gonna say free 'cause we're free now.
[00:46:21] Julian Germinal: But it's just, I want more of this. Mm-hmm. I'm excited for more of it. 'cause the things that we'll be able to do for others is what excite me as a family. Yeah.
[00:46:32] Kate Germinal: What's one legacy you wish to leave behind in family and business?
[00:46:37] Julian Germinal: I wanna leave behind, not, I wanna leave physical stuff behind, but if we're not gonna say physical, I think I might've said that.
[00:46:45] Julian Germinal: Like I want to be remembered as a man of integrity, character. Accountability and love, but combine those two together. I feel like those who try to hold you accountable are the actual people that actually [00:47:00] love you versus the yes men and the, oh, I got person
[00:47:04] Kate Germinal: candy, or what do they say? Yeah.
[00:47:06] Julian Germinal: Yeah. Ear candy.
[00:47:07] Julian Germinal: Yeah. I don't know if other people say that. I think I just, I don't know. I feel like the ear candy, I don't know. That might be a thing, but just tell you something to make you feel good.
[00:47:14] Kate Germinal: Mm-hmm.
[00:47:14] Julian Germinal: Yeah. That, that ain't me. And I don't wanna be remembered for anything like that. So that was it.
[00:47:19] Kate Germinal: Sometimes I feel like I want ear candy from you, but you don't.
[00:47:22] Kate Germinal: You don't?
[00:47:22] Julian Germinal: No. Me can't do it. You don't get the ear candy? Nah, I can't. I can't. Um. That just goes against my, per my core being, um, I'm not gonna tell you stuff to make you feel good unless it's deserving, right? If you, I'm gonna tell you the truth. If the truth is make you feel good,
[00:47:36] Kate Germinal: you gimme the truth and then you see how I am, and then you're like a little ear candy, but not all the way, like it's just a lick.
[00:47:43] Kate Germinal: It goes back
[00:47:44] Julian Germinal: just a lick.
[00:47:45] Kate Germinal: Yeah.
[00:47:45] Julian Germinal: Yeah. I mean, I gotta treat you good, baby. But the accountability, we gotta be accountable. And I don't want nobody doing that from me either. Mm-hmm. I want the truth. And when I say the truth, 'cause this is our truth, but like I want you what you see, you gotta be able to know that, hey, this is just what I'm seeing from you.[00:48:00]
[00:48:01] Julian Germinal: But also understand the difference between, oh, this is actually what I'm doing, or this is some of what I'm doing. Like you gotta be able to decipher that yourself. Yeah. But like, Hey, this is what I'm seeing, man. Like, am I gonna make you feel good? And that's why my mom, a lot of people don't like that about me.
[00:48:13] Julian Germinal: Um, I'll never be a person that comes and lie to you about something to make you feel good ever.
[00:48:20] Kate Germinal: Which I feel like there's a lot of times I think about something. Or like wanna reach out to somebody or have something in mind to say, and then I never say it and then it ends up coming out or something and I'm like, I should have said it.
[00:48:32] Kate Germinal: I should have spoke up. I feel like when we first got married and everything as far as it comes to business or household or this and that, I was just like, go with the flow. But you've told me to like communicate. What are you thinking? Right, because I've, I've always slacked at communicating. I remember one time playing softball.
[00:48:50] Kate Germinal: My coach is like, what is your position? And I was like, wherever you want me. He's like, oh, you pa play all the positions. I'm like, where? Wherever you want me. Alright. Go to catcher. I'm like, oh, [00:49:00] I, I never played catcher. Like, and my mom's like, he asked you, what is your position? Like I was just super people pleaser.
[00:49:07] Kate Germinal: I don't know what was bad.
[00:49:08] Julian Germinal: Oh yeah, yeah.
[00:49:08] Kate Germinal: But I kind of see that in Emerson in some ways and I'm like,
[00:49:11] Julian Germinal: yeah, I'm trying to not. Yeah, I see it too. Yeah. I don't like that. Um. He loves people with a little too hard.
[00:49:16] Kate Germinal: Yeah. I'm
[00:49:16] Julian Germinal: not gonna say a little too hard. It's not a bad thing to love people, but he does love people and I think he want, that makes him want to please and yeah.
[00:49:25] Julian Germinal: We just can't have that. Yeah. Specifically in a, in a boy and a man's like, you could be led astray. Easy, but we're gonna do our jobs as parents to speak in, speak into him, uh, speak life into him and, and reassure him. Of what God wants from him and mm-hmm. Who God wants him to be. Parent would not, that's hard to see, like
[00:49:44] Kate Germinal: things you may have struggled with and then see your kids kind of like ref, like mirror what you had and you're like
[00:49:51] Julian Germinal: accountability.
[00:49:52] Kate Germinal: Yeah.
[00:49:52] Julian Germinal: V vulnerability vulnerability time. Um, yeah. That means you failed at healing that or fixing that issue if it got [00:50:00] passed on to your children because now they gotta fight it. And I'm not saying that's on you specifically, 'cause I feel like even at some point in time. I was doing that same thing but more aggressive I think.
[00:50:11] Julian Germinal: Not in like the other way, but like, I wanna please people, but if I notice, I can't, like, okay, well cool. No, yeah. Like I'm gonna just say, not a nice thing, but it's like, well, I, I want to be, I accepted and please, please people, but I never would like go against myself to do that. Um, but nah, I think we both could be accountable for that.
[00:50:28] Julian Germinal: But we're gonna fix it though. I mean,
[00:50:30] Julian Germinal: Speaking Jesus and what he's supposed to be and who Emerson is called to be that, uh, naturally go out on him, heal himself. Yep. Mm-hmm.
[00:50:37] Kate Germinal: So that's all the, the questions I had for you today. I was excited to ask you all those things. Mm-hmm. Um, were you as nervous, like no.
[00:50:47] Kate Germinal: Is been in the hot seat?
[00:50:48] Julian Germinal: No. No. It's not a hot seat cake. It's um, I mean, I enjoy this, these type of things. So I definitely were nervous. But it was nice to conversate with you though, on a on a level like this. It's, um, [00:51:00] I think it's important for people to have these conversations even more intimately behind cameras like spouses.
[00:51:07] Julian Germinal: But yeah, I think, I think it's important to see it as a business owner and as a. Family person, spouse, woman, whatever you, whatever it is. Um, you have to have these conversations. And it doesn't take sitting in an interview style 'cause everybody doesn't have a podcast.
[00:51:20] Speaker 6: Right. But
[00:51:21] Julian Germinal: it should be even more intimate than what we're doing right now.
[00:51:23] Julian Germinal: Which I think we have conversations like that all the time. Mm-hmm. Um,
[00:51:26] Kate Germinal: specifically when we're going to bed and You wanna bring something up?
[00:51:29] Julian Germinal: Yeah. I mean that's pretty much the only time that we're together, like in solidarity. So I'm like, why would we not talk about something that needs to be talked about?
[00:51:37] Kate Germinal: Because, uh, we gotta get up and. Six hours,
[00:51:42] Julian Germinal: but is sleep more important or communicating?
[00:51:45] Kate Germinal: Until you complain the next day.
[00:51:46] Julian Germinal: No. Uh uh. Communication is more important. Yeah.
[00:51:49] Kate Germinal: Communication I've learned, but I'm
[00:51:50] Julian Germinal: not gonna say more important to sleep. 'cause you gotta sleep, but it's like you gotta comm if there's issues or something, talk about there's have to
[00:51:55] Kate Germinal: address before the next morning because it will flow into the Yeah.
[00:51:58] Julian Germinal: I'm a man of action. [00:52:00] But I think if there's an issue, don't let a muster address it right then and there quickly, so that way it doesn't become a problem. Yeah. Or you're left to speculate, oh my gosh. Like, this dude is like, uh, he doesn't love me. Or ah, like, I feel like women are prone to doing stuff like that all the time.
[00:52:17] Julian Germinal: And then, Hey, what's the matter? You okay? Why you acting like that? Nothing,
[00:52:21] Kate Germinal: Nothing,
[00:52:21] Julian Germinal: nothing. I'm like, are you sure it's not how you act normally? Are you sure? Nothing. I'm like, okay. I expect something to come up probably in a little bit. Or
[00:52:32] Kate Germinal: I'm like, and eventually comes out, was wrong. Yeah.
[00:52:35] Julian Germinal: Like, whatcha you doing?
[00:52:36] Julian Germinal: And then I get annoyed or upset because like, see we're
[00:52:38] Kate Germinal: working on it.
[00:52:39] Julian Germinal: Yeah, there you go. This is what it is. Like, and it's crazy. You guys would be surprised that we all kind of go through the same stuff.
[00:52:44] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[00:52:44] Julian Germinal: It's like. Hey, if you love somebody, you gotta communicate with them even if you don't love them.
[00:52:49] Julian Germinal: Nobody can read minds. I know women think they can read minds or, or their husbands or boyfriends should be able to read their mind. There's only one being that can do that. That's God. [00:53:00] Okay? We can't read. We all have our own
[00:53:01] Kate Germinal: stories behind these walls. And open your titles. Yeah.
[00:53:04] Julian Germinal: And speak. And Beck is a Haitian word for beak.
[00:53:10] Julian Germinal: It doesn't translate well. Our kids
[00:53:11] Kate Germinal: know that.
[00:53:11] Julian Germinal: But it's just, that's just a thing that we say. Open your beck and say what you feel. Don't think somebody's gonna read your mind.
[00:53:18] Kate Germinal: Yep.
[00:53:18] Julian Germinal: Yeah, that's it though. But, um, I appreciate you for doing this. This is the season finale.
[00:53:24] Kate Germinal: Yes.
[00:53:24] Julian Germinal: Uh, the last interview of season one.
[00:53:28] Julian Germinal: Uh, this has been, this has been a lot of fun, man. I, I love sitting down and conversating with people. I love communicating, so
[00:53:35] Kate Germinal: I love conversating, but not on camera and not in front of a big crowd. I like the one-on-one. I think we're sitting in it pretty well there in the dark.
[00:53:44] Julian Germinal: It's way different from what we actually, when everybody
[00:53:45] Kate Germinal: has headphones on, so no, we can hear.
[00:53:47] Julian Germinal: I
[00:53:48] Kate Germinal: like it like that.
[00:53:49] Julian Germinal: This is a lot different though, from what we actually did the interview. You seem to,
[00:53:52] Kate Germinal: well, I'm interviewing you. I mean, we talk
[00:53:56] Julian Germinal: You don't think you would interview somebody this easily? Somebody else. [00:54:00]
[00:54:00] Kate Germinal: I feel like some of the questions I've asked, I know what your response is gonna be.
[00:54:05] Kate Germinal: Some of them I didn't, or you, you know, added stuff in there that I didn't. Think you'd talk about, but other people, I don't know what they're, they don't know what I'm asking. I mean, you didn't know what I was asking today, but in the future, they don't know what I'm asking to. Mm-hmm. And I don't know what they're gonna say.
[00:54:19] Julian Germinal: Yeah. I mean, I don't care what they're gonna say. I just want to get to know somebody or get to know how their mind works or the processes behind their thinking and behaviors.
[00:54:27] Kate Germinal: I think I'll get used to it. I think that's one thing I'm also learning. I
[00:54:30] Julian Germinal: think you'll end up going to really love it. Yeah.
[00:54:32] Julian Germinal: Which is why I. Push you to do certain things. 'cause you have the skills and you have the, the potential. I see the potential and like, you'll be really good at this, but you do have the uncomfortable. Yep. You get uncomfortable in something and then you realize how much you like it. Back to the
[00:54:44] Kate Germinal: consistency.
[00:54:45] Julian Germinal: Yeah.
[00:54:45] Kate Germinal: Just doing it.
[00:54:46] Julian Germinal: Huge improvement. Yeah. And same thing for me too. 'cause when I first started this, it's like, I mean, bro interviewing somebody is a skill. It's like. It's not something you just boom are naturally good at. It's like interviewing somebody. It's like you have to learn how to talk to people.
[00:54:58] Julian Germinal: Everybody. What you see it over
[00:54:59] Kate Germinal: time. If [00:55:00] you go back to people that started their podcast or YouTube channel or anything and go back to videos, you see the quality wasn't the best. Mm-hmm. The um, the things they discussed. Weren't the best, but then you look now and you're like, that's the same people.
[00:55:14] Julian Germinal: Yeah. Or you're watching person, like, why didn't you ask this question? I'm like, that's like common or basic. It's like, you know, it's easy to say that when you're not sitting in front of the camera, but it's a thing. Right. The skills that you develop and grow and stuff, but mm-hmm. I appreciate you though for for sitting here and doing an interview.
[00:55:28] Julian Germinal: I thought it was pretty good.
[00:55:29] Kate Germinal: Yeah.
[00:55:29] Julian Germinal: Um,
[00:55:31] Kate Germinal: so, um. I guess, yeah. As we close out the first season of Mixed Realities, I just wanna say thank you to every guest. Yes, every listener, every support, who's been part of this journey from day one. This conversation just wasn't about business, it was about purpose, love, leadership, and faith.
[00:55:48] Kate Germinal: Mm-hmm. Julian, thank you for leading this vision leading this, the podcast with vision, vulnerability for always being willing to go deep and even when it's not [00:56:00] comfortable.
[00:56:00] Kate Germinal: Um, and to everyone watching. We'll be back for season two, where there's stories that go even deeper, the impact even greater, and the purpose is even stronger.
[00:56:09] Kate Germinal: Until then, stay faithful, stay focused, and keep building your reality. We love you guys.
[00:56:15] Julian Germinal: Yes. All the love and definitely I wanna re reiterate thank you for those that actually took time out of their day and schedules. 'cause we interview pretty much business people right? To come sit here and be vulnerable and give certain lessons and things that are typically probably paid for to learn.
[00:56:30] Julian Germinal: Um, given giving it to us for free just because. That is who is typically in our spheres and are around people are willing to share and give and not really expecting much back from it. So big, big shout out to everybody and thank you for being the first interview that we did on this platform as it should.
[00:56:46] Julian Germinal: 'cause it's our platform.
[00:56:47] Kate Germinal: Yeah.
[00:56:48] Kate Germinal: Well, and you're the last for Yeah, I think
[00:56:50] Julian Germinal: it, I think it was fitting, but. Again. Let's go ahead and do 'em right. Thank you for being a part. Are you gonna finish it with me?
[00:56:57] Speaker 6: Thank you. Thank you for
[00:56:57] Julian Germinal: being a part of our Mixed Realities
[00:56:59] Kate Germinal: [00:57:00] Realities podcast.
[00:57:00] Julian Germinal: Thank you.
