Sticky Notes
Ever wondered what it's actually like to build a fitness business from the ground up? Meet Rosie and Leila, two Pilates instructors who crossed paths at a London studio and discovered a shared vision that was too powerful to ignore.
This podcast—Sticky Notes—is our real-time chronicle of building something from nothing. We're relatively new teachers stepping into entrepreneurship, balancing Rosie's big-picture dreaming with Leila's pragmatic planning. We're challenging fitness industry norms, particularly the narrow concept of a "Pilates body," and creating spaces where everyone feels welcome regardless of how they look.
Join us weekly as we document every decision, meeting, and milestone. Whether you're interested in Pilates, entrepreneurship, or simply enjoy witnessing the unfiltered journey of two women betting on themselves and their vision—we're glad you're here for the ride.
Sticky Notes
The Art of Juggling Business, Banking, and Bad Camera Angles (Ep. 3)
Ever wondered what it really takes to launch not just one business, but three at the same time? In this honest, behind-the-scenes episode, we’re sharing the unfiltered reality of starting from scratch—the good, the bad, and everything in between.
We kick things off with a confession: we’ve been using the wrong camera this whole time! A small but classic example of how nothing about this process has been smooth. From the technical hiccups to those rare lightbulb moments that keep us moving forward, we’re opening up about the rollercoaster of entrepreneurship.
One of the biggest struggles? Getting our podcast out into the world. Even though we picked a platform that promised easy distribution, our show mysteriously never showed up on major apps. Turns out, there was a hidden verification step no one tells you about (seriously—why does no one talk about this?).
On the brighter side, we finally made a big decision about our branding: we’re officially simplifying “Honey Hex” to just “Hex” for our high-intensity Pilates platform. It feels right and fits perfectly with our long-term vision of eventually opening a physical studio. We also took the plunge and set up business banking—one of those small but satisfying steps that makes everything feel a bit more real.
The most personal part of this journey, though, has been learning to balance it all. Between teaching, moving apartments, training for a half marathon, and planning for an international move, life is full. It takes serious discipline (and lots of late-night planning sessions) to carve out time for this business. But having a partner makes all the difference—it keeps us accountable and turns what could feel overwhelming into something exciting and shared.
To anyone watching, it might just look like two friends hanging out on a couch. But behind the scenes, real decisions are being made about the future of our brand, our platforms, and our goals. So come along for the ride as we tackle the highs, the lows, and everything in between. Subscribe to follow along—we’re just getting started.
Oh, it's going to be really weird to not have it See ourselves.
Speaker 2:I know I'm also going to watch the time because every like 20 minutes I'll go and check it.
Speaker 1:This is a change from our previous videos because we've been using the front facing camera, so the whole time we can see.
Speaker 2:And we've been saying, oh my God, iphone camera quality is so good, it's so good. And it's like okay it's okay when you watch it back on the phone, but then once it's been exported to the yeah, onto the ipad, my pad, macbook, the ipad it is, um, not as good quality, especially if you want to upload to youtube.
Speaker 2:So we're now recording on what is hopefully 4d, no hd, hd there was the option for like 4k, but we know that was it because it's gonna be like pro res and we were saying Something Then that I think it, like it, cuts every like 10 minutes or so and obviously we can't see. So we can't actually see the phone, so we just can't see the time.
Speaker 1:We can't see the time 10 minutes Just switching, which you won't be able to tell. No, now it's the back camera, so it's not flipping us. So it looks like we're in the same place, but we're not. I was feeling self-conscious about my bad side, so we switched it yeah, I've been filming on my bad side and I just wanted to change it up do you know what I think it is?
Speaker 2:it's because you spend more of the clips like you stay facing, because you know how we always say we, we've been discussing, we watch ourselves back and Rose fidgets quite a lot, whereas you have probably seen I tend to slide down, I just become even more cozy.
Speaker 1:I'm also like doing things with my eyebrows I'm like I can't.
Speaker 2:I didn't think I was someone who couldn't sit still, but that's I think maybe seeing myself, I was going to say maybe like this it's almost better because you won't have some you can't almost like see and criticize it. But yeah, we've realized that rose fidget.
Speaker 1:So I wonder if you spend more of the time facing me whereas I'm just like sliding down and just face on and I'm just like looking into the yeah, and I'll have to remember to look because, truth be told, when I've been looking at the phone before, I've been looking at myself. I have not been looking, which is why I didn't notice when you were laying down I know I want to.
Speaker 2:I'll try editing layla please, but I want to put a screenshot of like where I start in the episode and at one point I just get quite low at one point.
Speaker 1:There's quite a drastic height difference between us whereas in I'm in a fidgeting like I'm sitting up for some unbeknownst reason and you're passionately making a point.
Speaker 2:Whereas if we both stand up we are pretty much the same height.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we are, I don't know how tall are you 5'2" on a tall day 5'3".
Speaker 2:Uh-huh.
Speaker 1:Maybe I'm still growing.
Speaker 2:We never know you know, Pilates has made me taller.
Speaker 1:It's lengthened you out. I know I genuinely my spine.
Speaker 2:obviously my posture is so much better, you can't really tell. That's amazing.
Speaker 1:I'm a really good compensator for your slouching. You're also not propped up the pillows. I have two pillows behind me because we also took about five different takes. Trying to figure out, trying to figure out how to get us both in the frame.
Speaker 2:Yes, and I was always just well I guess it is an audio podcast at the end of the day. So as long as you hold that mic closer to your face, which yes, oh wait, should we just wait we haven't. Actually should we start the episode and then we can. We'll chat. So episode three whoa, it's flying by.
Speaker 1:I'm actually really proud of this because I think if I was doing this on my own, it would be very easy to just talk. Yeah, well, two hasn't been posted yet, so maybe we don't get ahead of ourselves. But I am very excited that we've put it in the schedule. We've committed to it.
Speaker 2:We're doing it despite us having quite a busy schedule. We have, yeah, are you having a bit of a?
Speaker 1:touch schedule on it's. I'm impressed with us.
Speaker 2:It's cool yes, so we figured out. And also, truth be told, we figured out the camera thing about five seconds before we started to film the third episode. I turned to rose and I go we've been using the wrong camera, which is. It's almost wild to me that we haven't figured that out earlier. Um, yeah, I do actually remember thinking a little bit when I was editing the tiktok. I was like this quality is a bit not the best. So we've sorted out the video quality as it could be.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's okay, but it's not as good as it could be.
Speaker 2:Yeah especially considering people have always said that you can use an iphone to film major stuff. Yeah, um, so that is great using it to its full capability now the mics hopefully the audio is gonna be better things we learned from last week.
Speaker 1:There's moments where I'm talking like this, and there's moments yeah like this and I'm looking at myself in that second video, why I'm talking, and my hand is here, yeah can't. That's the point. Yeah, the mic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, leila was doing a bit, I was like I kept putting the clip like onto my finger and I was like trying to hold it and I was just like playing with the. I was fidgeting with the clip and I think easy to do. Yeah, I'm gonna see. Hopefully I don't fidget. If I fidget in this one, I might just snap the clip of it off because and then we'll know that the little mic you can't hear like I can't hear it happening, but I think maybe I also didn't realize how good the quality of the mics are.
Speaker 2:To be honest, yeah, I didn't actually think you would pick it up. To be honest with you.
Speaker 1:I didn't either.
Speaker 2:The first time we recorded, we just used one of these mics.
Speaker 1:And it's quite good.
Speaker 2:Arguably better quality. Sorry to the friends and family that have been forced to listen or have been listening to this out of just like solidarity, because you're probably being put through the ringer with like the worst quality audio but we keep saying that's the whole point of the podcast yeah the podcast, as we said on instagram is supposed to be a side hustle to the I put it on.
Speaker 1:I said, uh, I said something like when you create a fun, silly podcast to oh yeah to document building your business, and then the podcast ends up being more intense, more challenging at times.
Speaker 2:Yes, no, because I do think it's worth it for us to have something on the podcast account that explains that this is almost just a document.
Speaker 1:I mean, I guess it does say it in the description that this is a documentation but that is the purpose and we're doing it, including with the podcast, because we don't know what we're doing. So we're learning every time exponentially.
Speaker 2:This is just us justifying to each other and our and the audience like having everything going wrong, like well, it's just a learning curve.
Speaker 1:It's just a part of it. It definitely is.
Speaker 2:This is why the podcast is free and not a membership yes, which the other things are?
Speaker 1:yeah, do you want to talk about uploading?
Speaker 2:oh my, god, do I want to talk about uploading it. So if you, if you are listening to this as it's being posted live, congrats, congr. You're probably also oh, I was going to say you're also a friend and family member. A friend and family member, yeah, who is listening to this in solidarity of, like, supporting us in our lives. So you will have also seen what has been posted onto the Instagram, which was me just having. I mean, I wish I recorded almost the breakdowns I was having on Mondayay trying to understand why the buzzsprout platforms had posted, but when I searched on the actual app store, it was not there. Yeah, um, so we were having an issue because I couldn't access the directory section on buzzsprout.
Speaker 1:I didn't even know it existed and buzzsprout, which I think we said before, is the platform that we're using to host the host of our podcast, but it can ping it out to different.
Speaker 2:Basically, the whole selling point of us signing up with them was they were going to take care of it and post it everywhere. I was like, great, I don't have to do anything, don't handle it for me. What happened? I think this is the only issue I've been have or I think either of us have found with having two people on this. I was trying to verify, or it kept saying it would send out an email verification, and I've used, obviously, our company email, which is eventually going to change, but the current company email. I then, was it not because of Gmail and Google and all of their like.
Speaker 1:What were you going to say? What?
Speaker 2:Because of Jesus, oh no, because of the powers that be Just not wanting me.
Speaker 1:I don't know where my brain's at.
Speaker 2:I thought you were going to say because Jesus. Maybe, maybe it was that way Because of.
Speaker 1:Gmail Because of Gmail.
Speaker 2:And they're like two-factor authentication. I, despite having our password, I've never hated two-factor authentication.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and which fair enough because, you know, maybe one day, when someone tries to hack our billion-dollar Pilates industry, we'll be grateful for Gmail and Google's two-factor authentication. But I was failing the human tests. I apparently don't know what a fire hydrant looks like. I don't know what a bicycle looks like, so it was not letting me log in and verify our email. So because I couldn't verify our email, I couldn't access this whole directories page that I didn't know exists. So I'm having these breakdowns on Monday or crash outs, almost trying to figure out how to log in or verify our email, finally get the email verified and then figure out. I've put us on YouTube. No, amazon Music, spotify, apple Podcasts. I meant to show you this. There are a bunch of other ones. You can do it now on the podcast.
Speaker 1:Are there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there are a bunch of ones that are just not really used and I can just send them out. So we're listed on Apple Podcasts Spotify. We've been submitted. We're looking on the Buzzsprout website yes. We've been submitted. We're looking on the Buzzsprout website. Yes, we've been submitted to Apple Music, but we haven't been listed yet. So these are. Yeah, I didn't do. Youtube because I was like we're going to post onto it, yeah, which the YouTube post is coming eventually, mother.
Speaker 1:I think is way more fun watching it personally. Yes, but that's just me.
Speaker 2:No, I agree, I just didn't. But that's just me. No, I agree, um, I just didn't, you can check these if any of them interest you.
Speaker 1:I mean, I'm happy to just send it out to all of them. I mean, these are the two majors. Yes, so that's good. That's apple podcast and spotify.
Speaker 2:But it was funny because and I just listed to all of them.
Speaker 1:Actually, while we're here, we had um set it up on buzzsprout so that it would post at 6 am on Monday morning. And then I had bombarded you with so many messages on Monday. I don't know what about just about the proposal from the branding people? No, you're fine.
Speaker 2:I tend to message Rose back at like 2 am because I have this issue. I have a problem actually where I just don't respond to people Emails. I get over, like I get overwhelmed when I get notifications, or a lot of the time I'll see a message and go to respond and then I just get like overwhelmed by like basic adult tasks. And then I'm like 2 am before I go to sleep, Like, oh my God, I have so many things to do and I just respond mass to everyone.
Speaker 1:And I think I had messaged you about, because last week we were trying to get Layla verified on our business bank account and we needed some like an extra thing. So I had messaged her about that. I sent you so many things and then I went to look for the podcast on Apple podcast and realized it wasn't there and I didn't want to message you again saying, by the way, the podcast isn't.
Speaker 1:So I went around in Buzzsprout saw that it said it was posted. Yeah, and then maybe you, because I didn't remember. Why did it not actually what happened, that it didn't actually get posted? Because it wasn't?
Speaker 2:listed to directories Right, which we didn't know we needed to do Exactly. There was just another step we didn't know we needed to do Because, oh, this is what I was saying, like Buzzsprout has been very clear, or like it's very helpful, but they don't really tell you.
Speaker 2:Like this is the next step, or like make sure you've listed to a directory because you post like from what I could see from the back end it was post and my understanding was all right, perfect, they're going to post it across to all the platforms because that was the selling point of the platform. Um, I can say that live while speaking. We are now listed on podcast index, deezer, listen notes, player, fm and a couple other. Um, there's a few that just need an email. So I'm going to wait until we have a Google business. Oh, podcast addict Just been added. I will wait until we have a podcast email or a Google business email for the podcast maybe?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and do that instead, which is another thing on our never-ending to-do list.
Speaker 1:Never-ending. It's very challenging. In some ways it's super fun, but it is very challenging to be starting basically three businesses at once yeah that's kind of what we're doing. Yes, so everything feels like it needs not feels like does need an instagram account, an email, a website or a youtube, whatever a place where you're putting the information. That's been challenging, for sure.
Speaker 2:It's also been quite a lot when because, as things have gone out or as I've like, posted things to like personal accounts my public palacios account, which is like just my name, like my main account now, um, and then obviously the podcast instagram. It is almost like whenever I see people, they're like, oh, are you starting a podcast? I'm like, well, yes, and the podcast is documenting the other two businesses.
Speaker 1:I'm supporting the other two.
Speaker 2:It's like yeah it is like three things that we're trying to launch and I think it also I'm sure we've mentioned we mentioned in the first one. For me it's come a little bit out of nowhere. I'm sure for you as well like for it to have been scaled up this much, definitely a lot from where you were maybe originally.
Speaker 1:But I also wanted that. That's why I wanted to bring someone else specifically you into it because I just wasn't doing that. I had all the these ideas and I didn't really have the momentum behind it so yeah, um, it's all good, but no a lot it is.
Speaker 2:It's definitely a lot. So now, when, like, there are some very close friends of mine that I also haven't seen in a few months, just because I think they've been away and I'm just anticipating the first time I see them next week or whenever, and they're like so you're especially like my guy friends that are a bit more like businessy finance bro like so you're starting a business.
Speaker 2:It's like, well, I'm kind of actually starting three, three businesses. I was also like in a smoking section of a member of a lounge of a like this, I'm still fidgeting so much. No, you're fine of a. There's like members club a couple weeks ago and a guy was asking me what my kpis were. Didn't know what kpi oh yeah yep, it means key performance indicator, which I've now learned oh, wasn't there something else?
Speaker 1:isn't there another three letter thing that was being thrown around you and sarah were talking about it. It's like the thing that you're selling your key. Oh, what is it your key selling? It's like our niche thing.
Speaker 2:oh my god, usb unique selling point. Yeah, selling point, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Too many.
Speaker 2:We've got USP. Our USP is kind of like the actual point of everything, which is like the hit crossover with classical, but we don't have a. We have less of a target audience than most people tend to.
Speaker 1:I think with business.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because we wanted to be, we're casting a big net, big net, but yeah. So I didn't even know what KPI was New upgrades, what's it called? I'm screen mirroring the phone that we are recording on to my laptop, because it's my phone and my laptop, so it's like the same Apple. Actually, I should technically be able to. Oh yeah, I can see how long we're recording for, which is perfect. I love the top Inception, which is perfect at the top inception. Um, I guess I could also technically. If your laptop was ever here, I could screen mirror to that or to your phone, even probably yeah, which yeah that was a very many options.
Speaker 2:Um, okay, cool, it just means we have options. It also allows us to cut the clips and just make sure that we because it is easier to airdrop or just share shorter videos to my laptop. When it comes to the editing process, yes, yes, shorter videos to your laptop. Yeah for the editing process.
Speaker 1:Now we're running up into a YouTube issue.
Speaker 2:That's a live issue, that one I'm sure maybe we're just not meant to have. No, we'll have, I'm gonna figure it out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what did it say? Just that it's too long.
Speaker 2:It's just too long to process, maybe because we're doing a lot on the. I've seen two hour videos on youtube. I can also, if I have access to the video.
Speaker 1:I can also try to do it too yeah, I can see if I can.
Speaker 2:I'll see how long it takes if I try to upload it to a drive, and then you should have access to the video. I can also try to do it too. Yeah, I can see if I can upload. I'll see how long it takes if I try to upload it to a drive and then you should have access to the drive, because I've got access to the email now on my laptop after Google finally allowed me to verify. All right, this is so cool. This is trippy. Now, if I look down at the laptop, what were we talking about?
Speaker 1:We were just talking about the last podcast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all the technical difficulties.
Speaker 1:How many people said I'm listening to your podcast? Yes, and we discussed how. I don't remember if you agreed with this, but I will likely never listen to a full episode.
Speaker 2:I was saying it was cool to see my because I listened to podcasts on the way to work specifically, actually, when I'm walking over to PR it's like my podcast morning and it was funny to see our podcast in between other more maybe let's say reputable podcasts or like legitimate podcasts, and to just see ours in between them all. It's also kind of a little bit wild to me how easy I mean easy once the directories aspect was set up but like there was no approval I mean Apple podcast had to like approve us Spotify had to approve us, but we could just exist on that platform, which is obviously great.
Speaker 2:You know free speech, all that stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But it was sort of wild to just be there.
Speaker 1:And it was very cool to then go on those platforms you normally use and see yourself. And it was just so sweet. How many people said oh, or even just followed the instagram?
Speaker 2:yes, because obviously and obviously not everyone is forced to listen and I I don't expect every member of my family and or friends to listen along to the podcast, but it's cool to see people who I've supported wanting to support me back or people who I would support putting in that extra effort, because obviously it's not easy and it is a time, um, I mean, takes time out of their daily life. But I do remember someone actually saying, like, if you want to see who your sort of true people in your corner are, you know, see, watch who comes out to support you. Or, yeah, you know, help out in these times.
Speaker 1:I had a few friends who I'm very close with, but just the way our schedules align, I don't talk to as much. And some people texted me after I put it on Instagram, on my personal Instagram, and said you're starting a pod, you're starting a business you're starting a podcast what's going on, and I realized I hadn't updated some people on that.
Speaker 1:But when it's living in your head, this idea, first of all, it's exhausting to update everyone on this If you're doing something, you know school or something and you tell people I'm starting this program and it's universally understood what that means, it's much more challenging to continue to have the conversation about how your business is evolving, because it is changing and evolving so much, so quickly and it's not so much so that we, between the last episode or I think maybe after the last podcast episode was recorded, we now have a new official name for the second website that is being launched, which actually I want to say it because you kind of birthed it.
Speaker 2:I also do like that we have sort of one, is not that? I think we're obviously equal in both?
Speaker 1:but, I, like that.
Speaker 2:You've come up with one. I've almost come up with one. So we had been toying around and you would have heard us refer to it as hex, honey, honey, hex. We couldn't decide, we weren't quite sure what it was. Yeah, it was just I. We were fearful. It may have quantity that you may think of other things when you think of it. It was just like a bit unclear, yeah, um we were just a lot of words, a lot of words.
Speaker 2:We were getting lost, not getting lost between the websites, but it was a lot of words. We were getting lost, not getting lost between the websites, but it was a lot of big, because Honeycomb Studios is a big name and we've decided to keep it as just Hex, so the virtual online platform is now Hex.
Speaker 1:There is still Honeycomb Studios, which is very separate, with a separate intention and goal.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the classical online space, and then our Hit Pilates workouts, our, our online workouts will all be on HEX, which aligns more closely with what our long term vision was, because I think we'd been saying that the dream which I'll say it now so we can, I think we may have said already, but to manifest into reality is that we have an in-person location one day, and that was always going to be called Hex. From day one, the in-person was Hex, the online was going to be Honey Hex, which didn't really make sense, because Hex in-person will offer the same thing that we offer online. So I'm not sure why we just didn't.
Speaker 1:I don't know why either, and I think one thing that was cool is that we both sort of subconsciously knew it was. We hadn't even spoken about making it Hex, and then I sent an email to the web developer powers that be Nikki, and Nikki and Kate and I was outlining Honeycomb Studios, and then I just called the other thing Hex.
Speaker 2:Yeah, rather than Honey Hex or Hex Honey. I just said Hex.
Speaker 1:And then we had had an exchange about it. Maybe it should just be Hex, honey. And then we had an exchange about it. Maybe it should just be Hex. And then I went and looked back on that email and said oh, I actually did just name it, it makes more sense.
Speaker 2:It makes more sense, it's snappier, I think, from a marketing sense. It probably works better.
Speaker 1:Yes, all the things and it still connects because of the honeycomb.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's still very much in the family. It's still very much in the family Of everything we're creating.
Speaker 1:And then Layla got me the sweetest. Oh, this was another weird thing. I mean, you actually beat me to the punch, but Layla got me a very cute bracelet.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That says Hex on it.
Speaker 2:Oh, we can show. I'm wearing a matching one.
Speaker 1:I don't know why there's like a string on it but it says Hex, Because we both have these little bracelets from a company called the Little Words.
Speaker 2:Project. What is yours, Sam? Mine says Breathe, which I bought almost five years ago when I first moved to London Pilates-esque, I know which was originally more anxiety-focused because I had really bad social anxiety and it was to remind me to take a breath.
Speaker 2:But I now see it less as breath and more like breathe, which is obviously one of the core principles of paotis. So it's yeah. I've been wearing that on my wrist for the past five years and it's almost so wild to me how much the meaning has changed, but still how pertinent it is to my life early thing we connected on is that I have one that says be kind that.
Speaker 1:I've had for a long time and I bought it at this little store in Michigan and then I saw that she had a similar one and I said oh, is this from that company? Yeah, and I was going to get Layla one from that company that said hex or honeycomb or something and then you showed up today with one handmade with love yeah um so sweet I love it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So that was cool, and now it's hex, so we have sticky notes, which is documenting the building of hex honeycomb studios yeah and oh, the logo was flipped as well.
Speaker 2:actually for Hex, that's one of the things. We said we'd so the. Hexagon is not yes, which I didn't even know. That's how it was referred to, until you were telling me that you and the team decided so for sticky notes and for honeycomb it is on a point, so it looks almost like a diamond.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which I love.
Speaker 2:It's a bit more like yeah, oh okay, classical pilates reference, um, whereas for hex it'll be flat on it. Yeah, is that what you refer to it as flat?
Speaker 1:yeah, a little more grittier. Yeah, I was gonna say grit pilates definitely has grit 200. Yeah it's. It's just got a different feel it feels a bit spunk.
Speaker 2:It feels like a bit sassier, to me a bit sassier. Honeycomb is a bit more of the like refined, yeah, elegant, like cool on hex.
Speaker 1:Kind of feels like the teenage, that's like yes yeah, exactly so that's been and that has tied into a bit more of I guess we talk about. We've been defining the pieces more Talk about that now, yeah, go for it going to entail because we've given kind of an outline and we don't want to put the whole product out there of course also knowing us like god knows who and we may have a conversation in two weeks and it might it completely change.
Speaker 2:I think it is a lot more defined, both pieces for us now. Yeah, um, I know, so I guess we don't. We don't want to speak too much on things before they're done. We definitely want to document things as they go. But I'm also a big believer like not just for, like evil eye, but just like oh you sort of wait until it's done and then like, yeah, talk people through it or just we'll take people along for the ride, but we had.
Speaker 2:We both happened to have some really good conversations this week with other people who are part of our classical pilates community, which made it clear to us that honeycomb studios will be, there will be kind of already an audience a demand yeah, already a demand, and it kind of helped us think about the timeline a little bit more, who we might get into that space yeah, because I think how we would connect them, even just the team, so nikki, who's running the mark, the website build out um had been asking us, or timeline wise, what we wanted to prioritize between honeycomb and Hex, because also, honeycomb's brand package is done whereas Hex is still waiting to be done, which would shift the timeline slightly, and where we were thinking that Hex would just require us to film videos, which that is all it really needs, and I don't think we necessarily.
Speaker 2:We saw the vision of the demand for honeycomb but I don't think we realized exactly how useful and how many people we have, I mean in our industry and just like in our daily life right now, yeah, who could use it and or would like to have a resource such as honeycomb. So I think even this week we've realized, okay, we could launch that I as soon as, obviously, the build-out is ready, and give it as a resource to people.
Speaker 1:Definitely yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know if I made the point that I was planning to make with that.
Speaker 1:No but we had initially said okay, Hex is a little more clear, let's get that going first. And then Honeycomb will evolve. I think that going first and then honeycomb will evolve, I think with a bit more time. And now it's, there's a teacher training that will be happening in our kind of circle come the autumn, which would kind of align perfectly with us wanting to get you know again on board going and connecting apprentices and teachers, things of that nature and that we could do.
Speaker 1:It's almost good we have a. Obviously we sort of have some kind of not deadline, but we want to get hex going because we're maybe a little more clear on that vision, or at least we're a little more clear on it. Um, and it's. It's cool now that there's in some ways, not a deadline, but there's good pressure, yeah, to get honeycomb going as well, because we can see some people who would be good resources for it. Definitely, yeah. Another live update is we just learned how to upload a longer youtube video.
Speaker 2:Yes, because apparently you need two-step verification If you're going to upload longer than 15 minutes. Which I guess maybe it may seem like common, like maybe for someone that's common sense.
Speaker 1:But there was nothing For us.
Speaker 2:It was not common knowledge that was notifying us that that is something we should do. That just said too long, because also I wouldn't, I didn't expect YouTube to have a different two-step verification to the Gmail, because surely, because it is connected to the business email which is verified Doubly across many a device, it would just take. It was also the two-step verification was sending, was texting to my phone number which I had to input and which wasn't already connected to the account, so it didn't really verify anything.
Speaker 2:No, so but, it's hopefully uploading here in the background as we record the rest of this episode.
Speaker 1:Yes, which, what else were you going to talk about? Um other?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so if you've been wondering what Rose has been looking at, she has just been looking at my notebook.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can have in your lap. If you've been wondering what Rose has been looking at, she has just been looking at the outline, I have my notebook.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can have it in your lap if you wanted. I thought you said you were going to I'll bring her up.
Speaker 1:So other things we did this week besides the podcast, which I think took a lot of kind of mental energy because we posted it, you posted it, and then we were doing a lot of cross Instagram.
Speaker 2:Promotion-y stuff.
Speaker 1:Promotion-y were doing a lot of cross instagram promotion promotion stuff which I learned.
Speaker 2:I just don't know how to use instagram.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's fine. I was messaging people from the businesses, I just was not.
Speaker 2:It's too many accounts to keep track there are a lot, because actually we got lucky, because then last week, when we or last time we spoke, when we decided to switch honey hex to hex, we're like, okay, we need to make a whole new Instagram, but we found that I had an Instagram for Hex, which I made way back when when we thought that was going to be the physical space.
Speaker 1:So we lucked out, so we had that, but it just was. It's one of those. I'm sure there's a very efficient way that you could go and learn how to do the marketing of all of it through Instagram. But we were just oh, we're on TikTok as well.
Speaker 2:I posted the clips on TikTok.
Speaker 1:Layla's on TikTok.
Speaker 2:Trying to do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's been good. Layla made all the clips, so then we were posting those. We were posting it to our personal Instagram. We were posting it on Honeycomb Studios Instagram.
Speaker 2:We were cross-post commenting. Do you know what it is as well? Actually, the podcast only went live about three days ago. Because we're recording this early, we're getting ahead of episodes because you can talk about what you have coming up, yeah, but that is also why it feels like we've done so much, and maybe, yeah, because this is Friday today, as we record, the podcast only ever went live on.
Speaker 1:Friday, june. What 27th? Yeah, friday.
Speaker 2:And it only went live on Tuesday, Friday, June. What 27th, 27th? Yeah, friday, june 27th, and it only went live on like the 24th or 5th this last Tuesday three days ago. So it makes sense also as to why it feels like it has been so much, Because I think all of Wednesday was just still posting promoting.
Speaker 1:Or Tuesday, Wednesday? When did we even film the second one?
Speaker 2:Because we had last week. Yeah, because we had a week delay.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes so we'll get two coming out.
Speaker 2:Well, they'll still come out a week apart, but yes, they've been filmed, so I don't actually think we're going to be ahead, because we were, we were going to be ahead.
Speaker 1:We were going to film this on Monday, so only three days from From now.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, sorry as in, because we ended up posting the first episode A week late From our own Original deadline Because of More just IT issues. Yeah, it meant that we, because, had we done that With the episode we had filmed previously, we would have been ahead a week. But it's fine, I'm sure we'll be Ahead at some point at some point and the reason why we are.
Speaker 1:Well, I guess let's finish the other things. We got done this week a lot of podcasting and like aligning accounts, so making sure that we were both logged into things, that it was on a spreadsheet. We decided a more of a financial plan. We haven't talked about prices yet. We're were going to do that and we didn't.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, we didn't.
Speaker 1:Maybe we can both sit on that a little bit. But we broke down how each of us will be compensated and we talked about that piece which I thought, was super useful.
Speaker 2:What would go back into the business? What would go back into?
Speaker 1:the business. And then we confirmed our business banking information, which is very exciting because now we can be so much more clear on what's being used for the business. We can we have a few subscriptions that we're using and want to get, like business gmail and things like that that we can put through the account through the business account instead of through our personal accounts, which is nice I like that.
Speaker 2:It means even if I mean obviously, ideally, we do update the spreadsheet, and I think it's me who just keeps forgetting to put my thing I do too. There's some things on there, yeah it's nice that, even if we do forget that, what leaves the business account is obviously like the payment, like we would have a record yeah, everything that is moving in and out of that business account is related to anything under honeycomb. Yes, yeah, honeycomb and you can see how much we're putting in um.
Speaker 1:So it just keeps track of all that, yeah super nice and it's just kind of weird to have a business account on our phones.
Speaker 2:It was pretty cool it feels weird to have like a business card. What you had been saying prior about, like I think in a previous episode, about using, like having the pie business card. I remember when I worked front of house at cycle, briefly when I was doing my training um, and like being given the company or the company business card to run out and get something we were like low on stock for, like protein powder or something, but it was so funny because it felt like such an official or it feels very official yeah and it felt like, oh, this is such a big company, of course they'd have a business card.
Speaker 1:So it is wild to me that now, when I open my apple pay, that's in there, it's just going to be a card I think it's so useful too because, as we touched on last time, we are just investing our own money into it, and so it's. I find a lot of clarity in the fact that my personal bank account is my personal bank account. Back to our roots again. Episode three, episode three One mic, we're true to our roots. What can we say? Single mic, grassroots, grassroots Exactly. What could we say, yeah, single mic, grassroots, grassroots exactly.
Speaker 1:Um, anyway, I was just saying that I find it very helpful that I have a personal bank account and then I have this business bank account and I'm not, instead of putting money in my savings, which is also my savings for other things, you know, for the business, that I can just put money into the business account and I know that will go towards the business, that I can just put money into the business account and I know that will go towards the business and I'm sure it will help accounting purposes later down the line, obviously. So that's very exciting, and we also did just today. So Layla came over at 3 PM. We didn't start filming until probably 5, 5, 15, and we just talked a ton about what we want the actual products to be on our platform.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that was really cool too, I think especially for hex, where we both had a lot of general ideas of what hit classical meshed would look like. It was nice to be able to actually just break it down, quite specified in detail, just to make sure our visions were actually aligned, and just to have it written down. Um, it got us thinking and brainstorming about what types of videos and different series and formats we would like to see and different people we want to cater for and plan for.
Speaker 1:Um splitting up the workload yes, also to make sure that it's not redundant what we film yeah, um.
Speaker 1:So it was nice to just like actually get into the sort of nitty-gritty actual because a lot of what we've been doing is building the scaffolding to put the stuff out there. And then today we were kind of like what's the stuff? Yeah, what is what's that actually going to be? And it's very interesting how so much of this process is just creative thinking, which takes so much time. When I looked at my phone and saw it was 5.15 after you've gotten here at 3.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, that's a lot of just talking about what we're doing. Yes, it's wild to me that there's still so much to talk about so much. I almost went in. I was like, oh yeah, we need to take some photos for the business account, and then I was ready to start filming the podcast.
Speaker 1:I had forgotten what we needed to meet about yeah.
Speaker 2:And then it just seems that things just keep sort of popping up, which is, I imagine, especially in these beginning phases, the main time for this.
Speaker 1:Yeah the beginning. Yeah, you know, I think the hope is that you put in and I see this with Holly a bit, who again runs Pi Studios. She's the director and we hopefully will interview her at one point because that would be super interesting. But I have heard her speak about when she first started her business and she was teaching five days.
Speaker 1:you know more maybe seven days a week, whatever it was 10 hours a day, building the all of the scaffolding that she has. Now that we can just go in and work there and clients can come in and it's all built out and, as a result, she can step away yeah a bit, so that's kind of. That's not that we don't. I actually love doing the work on it, but it also is weird to be working and not getting any return. Yes, at this moment it was. You have to be very self-motivated yes, we're.
Speaker 2:Obviously we're filming these maybe not obviously still at the, the Airbnb that Rose is staying at, and a few times Rose is out to kick out both her husband and her brother because they were just wanting to hang in the room, doing nothing, by the way.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But it's funny because you and I just sat on a couch chatting does look like maybe just two friends talking, whereas obviously we're talking about the business and we're having. We are having what is a business meeting yeah, realistically we are.
Speaker 1:It's a very cozy meeting.
Speaker 2:So yeah, like you're saying it, it's something where it might you have to have that structure and that boundary of no leave the room, or obviously said in a much nicer way, but I kind of did say that, though, because tristan wasn't doing anything.
Speaker 1:He was sitting in the chair that's right across from us and we were talking, and I I just said, can you leave? Because it's not, and I communicated with them before this is what we're going to be doing in this space. You can't come, come in during this time. Do you need to take anything out of the room? Blah, blah, blah, but it it helps set the tone, for we're trying to get something done, so let's do it, and I'm not going to. There are times when I'm bouncing ideas off of Tristan, and this isn't one of them.
Speaker 2:No, fair, so you, I think it'll definitely be more helpful when you know next week we're at mine, which I mean it does always also make sense because I'm the only one there, so it's a helpful place to be totally. But yeah, it feels weird to sort of be having to be so structured and, yeah, Strict with your routine or you can.
Speaker 1:It's also nice because you can do it any time, which is kind of. The last thing we wanted to talk about was we initially were going to film on monday today's friday and it's been a super hectic week on my end because I'm moving out of this airbnb on tomorrow, saturday, and I'm also going when I I want to just add.
Speaker 2:Actually the door is now closed and locked, but rose messaged me to say that oh, when you come, like I may be upstairs just putting on some mascara, but like don't worry, the door is open so you can just meander in. And when I saw the message kind of how we roll, yeah, I was expecting, oh, maybe a small crack in the door, maybe the door is closed but not locked so I just have to press it and it will open. But no, the door was in fact wide open. Um, which you probably it's not advisable.
Speaker 1:No, in probably most. Yeah, not advisable, but that's where we're at. We've had people coming in and out, moving boxes, packing things. Yesterday was super stressful and I what's it, maybe Wednesday. I sent you a message and I just said look, on Monday I'm not. So tomorrow I'm moving out of this Airbnb and I'm going to Henley for this big rowing race called Henley Royal Regatta, where I'm a coxswain for a team in London and I'm competing, starting on Wednesday. But we go tomorrow, we train there until Wednesday and then we start racing.
Speaker 1:And I had planned to come back into London on Monday to film this and then it just a. I don't know what my schedule is on Monday, so it was just going to be tough. I do like that with this we can kind of of set aside, you know, three hours and use what we need, and that just probably wouldn't have been possible on Monday, and I also have had such a busy week with moving that I wanted to just get to Henley and be there. My mom's coming into town, it'll be great, yeah, super fun, but it's cool. Fun, but it it's cool and also, you know, is it's just more effort to think about, to think so ahead and say okay, can we do this on friday instead?
Speaker 2:yeah, and we'll have anyways, the plan was to meet friday at, for just the meeting, even because it was going to be. We're going to zoom or like facetime for it, and just discuss everything we have chatted about yeah to recording. But I do think also there is the benefit to us being together in person as we sort of spitball ideas especially now, once we are both here together in the same place to really maximize on that time.
Speaker 1:So I'm glad that we have podcasted and or we took, had the meeting and then are recording in person, and that's another big thing coming down the pipe is that I'm actually moving out of the country at the end of july and I will be. Our business is, you know, intentionally based here, because I feel like we never really explicitly said it, but neither of us are from London, no, but it is a very good base if you want to have an international reach. I think we both feel that way, so it is based here, at least right now.
Speaker 2:It is also geographically in the middle of where we are both from, maybe not necessarily where we're going to be ending up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but we have our network here. You know, there's lots of reasons why it's good for the business that we're doing for it to be here, but, um, because of that I will be back in london quite a bit and I don't know, maybe we'll film a few episodes in a week or something. Who knows what we'll be doing.
Speaker 2:No, I'm so down to film virtually, but I'm just imagining the whole learning curve of when we have to record online or on zoom or however. Yeah do it. Which is possible so many people? Totally possible it'll just be a whole but yeah, so that is something.
Speaker 1:That's another thing that we're thinking about, and the intention one of the intentions behind the way that we're doing this now, especially with a virtual start, is that we can do it from anywhere, which is great.
Speaker 2:It's a huge motivator behind the business.
Speaker 1:It's a huge motivator and it will be really cool that when we have videos and things, they'll be in different, literally different parts of the world, but filming something like this, it's really nice to do it in person. Yes, I also like that. It'll be a shift this.
Speaker 2:It's really nice to do it in person, so I also like that shift. Like you're saying it's, we're starting it together in person and then who knows where either of us will end up and when we we can come um. But it is so great, obviously, that we can do so much online. I mean, if you just think about the ladies we're working with, we've only ever met them over, or I don't know if you've met them in person I've only ever met. I've only met them on zoom.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so there's so much that we can do so much and I'm not stressed about us being not being the same place but it's so fun to think about to being in a different place and then coming either to where the other one is. They're coming back here and do again, having to have the intention of we're going to interview this person or we're going to get this thing done, or look at this space. If we want to have a physical, you know, that's all really fun to think about and we want it to be expansive. So it's good for us to be expansive, and not just here, but there's a lot of change. That where I was going with that is. There's a lot of change coming, and balancing this with the rest of life is a challenge. Yes, because it kind of feels like a passion project.
Speaker 2:Yes, it feels like we're sinking a lot of time and money and energy and just mental bandwidth into something that we are hopeful and we believe will have success, but obviously have no metric to that or no proof of that right now. And I guess that is the risk in entrepreneurship and that is the gamble you take and you believe that what you're doing is going to be successful. You have to believe that or else, what is the point?
Speaker 1:And you have to just like do it anyway. Yes, I think, which we both do. Yeah, if this was such a slog and a grind and, for you know, not enjoyable, then it would be really hard to think like oh, when it's successful, it'll be all worth it.
Speaker 2:Yes, and I think that is where also it has been so fun to do it with someone because even like when everything was going haywire with like the uploads I I had, I had you that I could message and just be like I'm so lost, yeah, and I'm sure I would have just reached out to a friend or someone in my life, but it was nice to reach out to the other person who was directly tied into it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, To just be like. Or even when you would message about trying to figure out the virtual address.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the virtual address and registering the company and making decisions. You know, when I was registering the company and the name we initially wanted which it's not all worked out but the name we initially wanted wasn't available and so I was messaging you and you were at work or something. So making decisions I mean, we're so aligned that we trust each other to make decisions on the other one's behalf. But it's, yeah, it's a lot of bandwidth and when you're juggling, teaching Pilates is exhausting. Yeah, a lot of jobs are exhausting. So it's not to say other jobs aren't exhausting, but you teach more than I do. But to teach an X amount hour a day and then come home and edit a podcast it's not to say other jobs aren't exhausting, but it is.
Speaker 1:You know you teach more than I do, but to teach an x amount hour a day and then come home and edit a podcast, yeah, it's just another and, like you said, your rowing is another huge rowing is, and it's at peak. It's heightened right now because this is the culmination of the season is upon us, so everything's very emotionally heavy right now and moving is emotionally heavy.
Speaker 1:It's a lot. But I actually I think you said this last week the creative outlet. This morning I was running around packing. I felt pretty like just oh my God, overwhelmed, and then I was very excited to have you come over and do you sit down and you do this and it is a nice outlet. So I'm grateful for that.
Speaker 2:I'm really glad we're doing the podcast alongside it all and it's nice to also have someone to be held accountable with and for in that idea of doing something together, whilst we're obviously both very lenient and like things happen like like we wouldn't be like. Oh my god, why?
Speaker 1:is this not done.
Speaker 2:It is nice to know that, oh, I'm doing this with someone and I. It almost gets me more motivated to do it because, I'm like, oh well, we're a team, so you don't you want to carry your side of the.
Speaker 2:It's a partnership so totally a partnership? Yeah, it is not. That is where it's could be, because I think teaching is quite a solitary job. Whilst be lonely, yeah, whilst you do interact, and there's so much socializing in terms of the amount of people you interact within a day and you teach um, that is the part that you are touching on. That is quite draining. It is quite an isolating field because, while you also have, like colleagues, other instructors at a studio, for the most part we're all teaching at the same time yeah, and you come and go at different times, so you don't really have that camaraderie.
Speaker 1:It's the best five minutes, yes, when I'm doing admin at the studio and you and keelan are both available yeah, on that thursday and maybe there's a client who's 10 minutes late and it's kind of like, yes, we have 10 more minutes to drink our coffee and just decompress decompress chat gossip a little bit, super, super fun.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, it's all happening and it's very exciting with moving, still having this through line, this thread that I'm continuing to work with and not feel so, yeah, I'll move and then, you know, not just be like what's my purpose. Yeah, you know, and we both just have other things that we're doing. You know, you're doing your.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I'm training for a half marathon, which is wild so now it's going to be on the internet. Yeah, because I've been telling more people in my daily life to hold me accountable, because when I trained for and ran a high rocks, I had told no, pretty much no one up until and you crushed it.
Speaker 1:So imagine what you'll do with all this support.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm actually training for this one. This time for because, cause I didn't even run for the high rocks, I trained for it, but not the running aspect. So the half marathon is now, as we speak, just under 12 weeks away. So it's really kicked my ass into. Okay. We actually have run twice this week. Out of my three runs, I have my long run left on Sunday. Love it. So, yes, I'm going to be running in the Richmond half marathon, which I'm excited, which I'm very cool. I know. I've convinced myself that because there's a chance I'll see deer during the run. It will push me through the 21k. I don't know why I love that that's the story I've told myself sightseeing.
Speaker 2:So is it through richmond park? I could not tell. You must be some of it some of it, I think so, um, I remember they were listing the. It's a quite a nice trail, just visually what you see along the route, and I was like sure that'll push me through it. So, yes, I did eat First. I thought I was gonna be quite sluggish in the podcast because I ate a lot of carbs at lunch, obviously because I'm running so much, um, but I think I was. The energy came back to me in the meeting.
Speaker 1:Like you're, saying it's really. There's a creative buzz around this Creative buzz and it's so much fun.
Speaker 2:It is so much fun I'm very much enjoying it, as stressful as it is it is 10 times more fun and, like we, said last time, there's no stakes.
Speaker 1:We don't actually have any clients yet. Yeah, we don't have anyone consuming a payable, no product, so I don't feel, and we don't have any investors which we won't have investors, so I don't feel any pressure to. I think we're good at putting the. You're better at it putting the a deadline on things, yeah you're getting good.
Speaker 2:You came up. Rose said today we should have a deadline for recording the videos.
Speaker 1:I was like, yeah, we should, and now we do, which is great. So one thing at a time. One thing that was crazy with the deadline is we sort of set it for ourselves. And then I was thinking about it and I thought actually, not that far away.
Speaker 2:Yeah, about eight weeks, just over eight weeks, coming up to film about 30 videos each of like high quality one yeah, high quality, and then it'll be kind of the beginning of of it all for real. So yeah, that's very exciting, definitely and that might be episode three.
Speaker 1:That's about it now. Yeah, 6 41 pm, so almost four hours doing our thing yeah, good stuff.
Speaker 2:Well, you've got planned this evening I need to.
Speaker 1:There's a tiny interlude, albeit henley, but my husband and brother are staying with my uncle, so we're going to move some stuff over to his.
Speaker 2:Is that where you're staying for your last?
Speaker 1:month. Yeah, yep, yep, yep. So gotta get to that. Gotta call an uber fair. What about you, um?
Speaker 2:dinner. I'm already thinking about what I want to eat for dinner as you should and then meeting a friend in the evening. I'm going now, lovely have fun. Thanks. Hopefully we'll have maybe a fun story for yeah, next time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, another thing to happen in this movie section, who knows?
Speaker 2:maybe this time I can talk to them about what my kpis are yes, you can talk to someone about what you're on time, without technical difficulties.
Speaker 1:That's my that's the goal also. Yeah, we can do it. Okay, thanks for watching slash listening and we'll be back for now soon. Ciao for now, bye. We did it.