Feeding the Brain: How Nutrition Transforms Mood, Focus & Energy

there's a lot of people working in the world of nutrition doing different things. I spoke to a therapist just earlier this week and she said, okay, I understand you're a nutritionist. So where do you focus? Do you focus on like weight loss, know, hormone balance? He's like, no, like I focus on mental health. And she's like, this is all I've studied for the last few years.

It just is fascinating to me and it makes sense now that I know what I know that our food and nutrition makes such a radical difference to how our brain functions because it impacts so much of our organ function inside the body, our gut, all of those pieces. 

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James Moffitt (00:01.24)
Hello and welcome to ABC's Parenting Adult Children podcast. My name is James Moffitt and I will be your host. Today we have a special guest, Jane Reynolds. How are you doing?

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (00:10.975)
I'm doing just great today, thank you.

James Moffitt (00:13.46)
Awesome. Hey, me a favor and introduce yourself to the listening audience.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (00:17.846)
Yeah, I am a board certified holistic nutritionist working out of Mesa, Arizona. And my goal and passion in life is helping people to think about their mental health differently. That comes to our families, our kids, the people that we work with, and just changing the way we think about our mental health is kind of my life's goal. So I love to get to help people to do that.

James Moffitt (00:41.57)
Awesome. One of the recurring themes on our podcast is self-care. And we encourage moms especially to step back from the mayhem and the chaos and do whatever it is they need to do to embrace self-care, whether it be listening to a podcast, taking a walk in the park, going to Starbucks and getting a drink and people watching or whatever it is that helps them to...

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (00:47.17)
Mmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (00:55.564)
Mm-hmm.

James Moffitt (01:11.0)
to kind of get centered and to, you know, rejuvenate themselves mentally, emotionally, spiritually, what have you. So, that's probably what got my attention about your profile, was you're going to talk about mental health. I've never heard of mental health nutritionist. That's a new term for me.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (01:30.978)
Many people have not. There's a lot of people working in the world of nutrition doing different things. I spoke to a therapist just earlier this week and she said, okay, I understand you're a nutritionist. So where do you focus? Do you focus on like weight loss, know, hormone balance? He's like, no, like I focus on mental health. And she's like, this is all I've studied for the last few years.

It just is fascinating to me and it makes sense now that I know what I know that our food and nutrition makes such a radical difference to how our brain functions because it impacts so much of our organ function inside the body, our gut, all of those pieces. So yeah, I was brainstorming with my social media manager about having

James Moffitt (02:08.558)
Sure.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (02:22.077)
like a title that people could grab onto. And I was like, I'm the mental health nutrition coach. And there are others of us, but there's only a few. There's not a lot that have just kind of really grabbed onto this and gone really deep on this topic.

James Moffitt (02:27.874)
There you go.

James Moffitt (02:37.302)
You're from Australia. You're from England. You have a very distinct accent. It's cute. It's very... Yeah, I had to ask you. I you didn't mind. Yeah. I actually interviewed a health coach. He was a coach of some sort. Nutritionist, whatever. And he is from Australia. And he was one of my international...

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (02:38.685)
England. Yes.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (02:46.123)
Thank you very much. No, I don't mind at all.

James Moffitt (03:06.638)
guest that I introduced or talked to. He didn't have a heavy Australian accident because he was born and raised here in America. I want to say Philadelphia, Northeast somewhere. And he moved to Australia when he was like nine years old or whatever. so yeah, it was pretty cool.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (03:19.382)
Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (03:25.759)
Yeah, I moved here when I was, I lived here for a year when I was 10. My dad took a job in the US. So we lived here then. And then I came back probably when I was 17, had a phenomenal time. I just came back to visit friends, went home, worked three jobs, saved up to come back again and met this really cute boy. And I chased him until he caught me. We got married. We've been married for 30 years this year. Yeah. Thank you.

James Moffitt (03:44.962)
Yeah.

James Moffitt (03:52.59)
Oh wow, congratulations. Yeah, Katie and I have been married 34 years. We're going on 35. Yeah, we have, yes. Interestingly enough, I have met people that were, have been married 50 and 55 years. And I was in our local pharmacy the other day, a couple of weeks ago. And I saw an older couple sitting down. I think they were waiting on the flu shot or something. And I was like, I've got to go over and talk to them.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (03:58.604)
Congrats. It's a rare thing these days.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (04:19.201)
Mm-hmm.

James Moffitt (04:22.402)
You know, and I went over and said hello and I said, do you mind me asking you how long y'all been married? Of course, I'm assuming they're married, right? And typically older people like that are married. And the wife looked at me or was a man. The answer was the guy. He said, we've been married 66 years. I was like, what? 66 years? I said, did y'all.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (04:30.943)
Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (04:43.899)
my gosh.

That's amazing.

James Moffitt (04:50.722)
Did y'all get married in kindergarten or what was the deal? And they laughed. And I said, okay, can I ask you what the, what was, what's the magic? What was the secret to your success? And that's when the woman spoke up and kind of laughed. says, well, we were both in the armed forces, the air force or something for like 30 years. And so they weren't together a lot in the first 30 years. said, so the absence does make the heart grow fonder. And they laughed and said, yeah, yeah. They were in their eighties.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (04:52.395)
Hahaha

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (05:20.489)
Yeah. Yep.

James Moffitt (05:20.75)
You know, and for their age, they look pretty good. I was like, wow, 66 years. I don't know if we'll make it that long, but anyway, yeah, it's, uh, let's say, uh, this day and age, uh, being married, being committed for that long is unheard of. You know, a lot of people get into, they get into relationships of convenience, right? Uh, and, uh, they become attracted, they fall in love, whatever.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (05:27.937)
you

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (05:38.625)
Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (05:45.11)
Mm-hmm.

James Moffitt (05:50.398)
They live together, they don't get married, because think marriage kind of has a bad rap at times, or has gotten a bad rap. So some people just, they get into a relationship and they think, well, I'll just stick with this person with the idea that they'll change their bad habits or whatever and they'll like, I'll stay with them until it's no longer convenient to stay with them and then I'll jump off this boat and paddle to shore and go find somebody else.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (05:56.8)
Mm-hmm.

James Moffitt (06:19.906)
So.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (06:20.447)
We were just talking about this the other day. I remember we were recalling when we were dating and when we were coming down to that marriage point and I was standing in the kitchen with my mom and Casey flew to the UK to marry me. He arrived on Sunday. We got married on Thursday and then he was there for a couple of weeks while we honeymooned. And then he flew back to the States and I had to stay in the UK. But in those few days before the wedding, my mom looked me dead in the eye and said, you need to know.

that this is once and for all, you're done. If you marry this guy, you are not coming home. And I was looking at a 6,000 mile move and it wasn't that I wasn't committed to the relationship in any way, or form like I was head over heels. And I wanted to be in the relationship we had written to each other for two years. We had phoned each other for two years. Like we wanted to be in this relationship.

James Moffitt (07:04.963)
Right?

James Moffitt (07:09.017)
wow.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (07:13.205)
but the thought of having that door closed and not being able to come home, she's like, unless something goes catastrophically wrong, you can't come home. And I was like, no, you're right. Like I am in this for the rest of my life. we've, know, we're people of faith. have made to us our relationship as a covenant relationship. And it's the, you know, him, me and God, we're working on it together. And I think because we wrote to each other for so long,

James Moffitt (07:31.96)
Right? Right?

James Moffitt (07:37.048)
Right? Right.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (07:42.612)
and we were so far apart from one another, it is just still a delight to spend time together. Like that hasn't lost its, it's gonna make me all verklempt. I like him a lot.

James Moffitt (07:51.742)
Aww.

James Moffitt (07:56.43)
No, that's okay. Oh, and there's nothing wrong with that. mean, you know, that's, know, humans, you know, we have a need to be wanted and loved and accepted and cherished and adored and all of the above, right? And that's all we can hope, whether it be female or male, that's all we can hope is that we find that soulmate. We find that person that we can spend our life with and we can grow old with, right?

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (08:00.853)
Yeah.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (08:08.447)
Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (08:18.869)
Mm-hmm. Yes.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (08:25.141)
Mm-hmm. Yep.

James Moffitt (08:26.626)
You just don't hear that very often. So yeah, part of the podcast obviously is talking about marriage relationships and that covenant relationship between you and your husband and God and how God is in your faith is an integral part of that relationship, right? Because relationships can get complicated. We're complicated.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (08:29.15)
No.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (08:38.175)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (08:47.915)
Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (08:51.783)
Mm-hmm. They really can. Mm-hmm.

James Moffitt (08:54.667)
Men are different or why are different women are wired different and

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (08:56.374)
Mm-hmm.

James Moffitt (09:01.698)
That's a good thing, you know.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (09:02.559)
Yes, over the years, I was just gonna say over the years, it has stunned me as much as we learned about communication that anybody gets along with anybody else. Like everybody is so diverse with their own baggage that they're bringing into the relationships, right? Yeah.

James Moffitt (09:15.64)
Yeah.

Right, right. Yeah, sometimes we do bring emotional baggage. I'm on my second marriage and my first marriage was a flaming disaster. You know, it was just on the side of the road in flames and I'll never forget how painful that was, you know. And I have a 38-year-old son from that relationship, which he was probably one of the brightest spots of that relationship.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (09:22.495)
Mm-hmm. Okay.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (09:36.981)
Yeah, I can't even imagine.

James Moffitt (09:47.532)
His mother and him are now gone. And so there's all that. But anyhow, yeah. So we talk a lot about marriage relationships and the importance of emotional intelligence, importance of mom and dad being cognizant of what's going on inside them, you know, their emotions, you know, why do they react to certain stimuluses?

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (09:49.397)
Mmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (09:53.749)
Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (10:04.234)
Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (10:12.0)
Mm-hmm.

James Moffitt (10:16.238)
a certain way. Why do they overreact? Self-care and all that's all wrapped up into a nice neat bundle. There's a lot there to unpack and sometimes we get so focused on the kids or the adult children that we forget that we need to talk about what's going on with mom and dad. Sometimes you got single parents. You got moms that are being dad and mom both.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (10:17.621)
Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (10:26.122)
Right.

Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (10:45.728)
Mm-hmm.

James Moffitt (10:45.838)
And so like I said, there's a lot to unpack there. it's, you know, our hope and desire on this podcast is to provide, you know, parents with hope, you know, and redemption and restoration and healing all of the above. Right. Because we know that, you know, raising, we raised four kids and there was a point in time back in 2015 when I had teenage, two teenage kids living at the house. told my wife, said, I need to

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (10:59.499)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

James Moffitt (11:13.666)
I need to start a Facebook support group, private Facebook support group for parents because I feel like I'm headed to prison at this point, you know, and I don't want to go to prison, you know, and so I didn't, luckily, I didn't, I managed to stay out of prison and the kids managed to live through past me as well. And now they're on their own. And one of them is an attorney and one of them's living downtown, working at a hotel, doing something. So.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (11:20.737)
Nope.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (11:30.817)
you

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (11:42.219)
care.

James Moffitt (11:43.638)
And parenting, they don't ever just grow up and go. Parenting's a life skill. It's a lifelong commitment. And we all laugh when we talk about kids are in college and, well, when they come home on the weekends, they're there to eat and to do laundry. Right? And have a roof over their head so they can sleep unacosted for 12 hours or whatever.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (11:51.327)
No.

It's a lifelong commitment.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (12:04.479)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (12:10.997)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

James Moffitt (12:12.462)
And so yeah, it's a parenting, it's a lifelong commitment and it's a challenge. It can be utter chaos or it can be joy, you know. So I'm going to let you talk for a minute. I've got allergies that are driving me crazy.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (12:24.331)
Mm-hmm. Yep.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (12:30.689)
Oh, I'm so sorry. We have three adult daughters too that we have raised. We have a daughter who is going to be 28 this summer and twins who will be 27 right after that. So our eldest was 13 months old when the twins were born. And you talk about like a chaotic home. It was organized chaos, it was chaos. We had toddlers, toddlers running around everywhere and

James Moffitt (12:55.478)
I bet.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (12:59.913)
You know, I joked for a long time that we did a lot of the same things at the same time, even though there was 13 months between them. We did a lot of party training at the same time, learning to tie our shoes at the same time. School was not far behind for, you know, each one of them. And then we empty nested very quickly when when it was time for them to fly the nest. They kind of all went, you know, one right after the other. And so we've run the gamut of, you know, all the emotions of.

James Moffitt (13:23.694)
All

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (13:28.683)
parenting from having very littles all the way up to getting to that point in our relationship with our kids where we are now more of the consultant than the parental figure in their lives. And we have great relationships with all three of our girls. I'm so incredibly grateful for that because I think it's a bit of a crap shoot. Honestly, sometimes, you know, people have said, how did you get to the place where you had such good relationships with your girls?

James Moffitt (13:47.64)
Right, that's wonderful.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (13:58.028)
to be quite honest from, I don't know, think they were probably three and four when I started consistently praying for them every single day. And I tell them now, I get to tell people now that I believe that they are who they are today, but for the grace of God. Like there's nothing that I did or didn't do that wasn't just surrounded by this hedge of protection as we navigated through those parenting years.

James Moffitt (14:06.19)
James Moffitt (14:16.398)
Sure.

James Moffitt (14:25.326)
That's wonderful. Yeah, we find ourselves on our knees quite often, don't we?

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (14:30.067)
We do. Sometimes you're desperate. And sometimes I feel like there were points where it was better for me, especially as they got into their later teen and early adult years, but was still living at home, to step back and allow them room to fail. And I would bless them and send them out the door and then go and hit my knees while they were out doing whatever it was that they were doing. We were not.

You know, I mean, we're talking about kids who are 19 and 20 years old at this point. So I'm not sending my 12 year old out and just go and, you know, figure it out for yourself and don't call me. But yeah, just like when they were a little bit older, learning to step back and not have such a choke hold on them as far as direction or what you think is the best thing for them. They still do things that I'm like, that isn't a choice I would make. But

James Moffitt (15:01.678)
Sure. Right.

James Moffitt (15:19.79)
Bye.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (15:21.503)
they're figuring it out and they're growing into wonderful human beings in the process.

James Moffitt (15:26.094)
Right?

Yeah. I think as parents, always have, we have a picture in our heads of, of what we want our children to turn into, you know, and I remember my dad was, he was in the military for 26 years as a parole instructor. He retired from the army, started taking classes at East State, East State, East Texas State University. Yeah, that was it. Yet East Texas State University. can't see it.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (15:38.72)
Mm-hmm.

James Moffitt (15:59.308)
But he was working at Charles State Hospital as a TV man. Back when TVs were, you know, back in the seventies when there were big chunks of furniture, you know, the RCA and Phillips and Zenith and all those name brands from back then. they were, you know, they had the TV set and you open up the lid and had an eight track cartridge and it had the phonograph and radio and all that. he had a big

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (16:09.675)
Mm-hmm.

James Moffitt (16:28.046)
storage building in the backyard and he had it in his mind that he wanted me to take over the shop once I turned 18, 19 years old. And I had zero interest in that. had no desire, you know, to work eight hours a day and then come home and work another four or five hours after supper, you know, put food on the table. I was like, they really let him down and disappointed him. And I think the rest of my adult life.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (16:39.297)
Mm-hmm.

James Moffitt (16:57.71)
while he was alive, I think I was just a huge disappointment to him. whatever. We were adopted, you know. anyway, so it's a huge blessing. My parents weren't people of faith, and so we didn't have that upbringing. I didn't become a Christian until I was like 17 years old. And I my parents that I got saved, and they looked at me and said, saved from what, drowning? I was like, no!

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (17:03.873)
Mmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (17:22.495)
Hmm.

James Moffitt (17:25.806)
I kind told them the story and then just kind of rolled their eyes and said, okay, well, we've always said that you are welcome to pursue whatever religion or denomination you want to pursue. anyway, so tell me, let's see, what are we going to do here? Talk about how you got involved in being a mental health nutritionist.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (17:28.629)
Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (17:39.147)
Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (17:54.762)
Yeah, that started with my own journey. After that little tiny baby was born, the first one, Naomi, I ended up having an E. coli infection. And during that process, they took me into the hospital, they gave me seven bags of antibiotics over the course of three days and realistically saved my life. The reality was also though that it decimated my gut bacteria and within a couple of weeks,

James Moffitt (18:06.273)
Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (18:23.923)
I started having anxiety attacks. Now she was only a few weeks old when that happened. So when I went to see a very old doctor who probably should have retired long before I went to see him, but he had a very traditional mindset. And he just kind of looked at me and said, well, I don't know what you expect. You're a new mom. Your hormones are probably out of balance. This is life, you know, and sent me home. And I was like, okay, well, I guess that's how it goes. And I

James Moffitt (18:37.473)
Right.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (18:52.425)
I started working on, you know, just carrying on with parenting and figuring out life as best we could. And those anxiety attacks got way more serious as time went on. By the end of seven years, I was having them, you know, three and four times a day. They were lasting for an hour at a time. I was not really functioning as a mom. just, didn't want to get out of bed. Any given day I was calling my husband home from work multiple times a day.

because I, I just wasn't coping anymore. I had a seven year old and a couple of six year olds. and it was, it was just, it was rough. I thought at one point it was having a heart attack. I ended up in the ER and they're like, nah, it's just anxiety. And I, there's no such thing as just anxiety. It's miserable. Yeah. Yeah. It was a panic attack and, yeah. So those panic attacks,

James Moffitt (19:37.294)
Is that the same as a panic attack?

Okay.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (19:49.57)
were really bad and a friend reached out and said, listen, I think you should try naturopathic care. You haven't tried anything else. You've tried all the other things. Like I was on medication, I was seeing therapist, but she said, you know, you haven't tried naturopathic care. Why don't you do that? She did neurotransmitter testing with me and that was phenomenally helpful. She started doing amino acid therapy with me, which I'm now trained to do.

James Moffitt (19:57.944)
Right?

James Moffitt (20:06.52)
Right?

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (20:16.097)
And I can explain that in more depth if you want me to in a few minutes. And then a few months later, a chiropractor suggested that I go gluten free for some digestive issues that I was having. And it took me about two weeks to decide to do it because gluten is in everything. But once I had committed to it, I took it out. And at the end of the first week, I kind of woke up one day and thought, I haven't had a panic attack for a whole week.

James Moffitt (20:35.41)
right.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (20:45.503)
and I'd been having them daily, you know, multiple times a day. And I thought, I don't, if that's the one thing, right, one thing I've changed and it's made all this difference, then what else am I missing? What else don't I know about? And it sent me back to the naturopath to learn more. I got my blood sugar regulated because anxiety attacks and low blood sugar are exactly the same panic attacks. They have the same symptoms. So we got a lot of these different pieces sorted out. It was a slow healing journey.

James Moffitt (21:08.929)
Okay.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (21:15.453)
menopause definitely threw it all for a loop again. It's been kind of, you know, it hasn't been anywhere near as bad as it was, but there've definitely been some wobbly moments where I'm like, I don't like how I'm feeling, but it's the shift in hormones, right? That have changed things again. And I understand that. And I have tools in my toolbox to be able to help me to navigate all of those moments. So it sent me back to school. I wanted to learn more about how my body worked and

why nutrition was impacting my emotions as much as it was and how to bring healing to my digestive tract because that was really the piece that was fundamentally affecting everything. And I did for two years, I did that. I've gone through the Academy for Addiction and Mental Health Nutrition and I've gone through AEM in Clinics coaching training as well.

James Moffitt (21:46.99)
Right?

James Moffitt (22:05.23)
Awesome. Yeah, I don't think a lot of people realize the importance of how your physical health and your mental health and your emotional health and your spiritual health are all kind of intertwined and connected, right? It's like they say, you know, your oral hygiene is directly tied to the rest of your body and how healthy you are, right?

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (22:19.679)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (22:24.789)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

James Moffitt (22:31.982)
So yeah, that's really interesting. Did you go through postpartum depression?

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (22:36.193)
I don't think it really was postpartum depression. I really believe a lot of it was tied into more anxiousness than depressive symptoms. yeah. And I know postpartum depression frequently shows up, you know, understanding now what I didn't back then, but we frequently see omega-3 deficiencies in those moms because they're,

James Moffitt (22:49.198)
Okay.

James Moffitt (23:01.888)
Okay.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (23:02.911)
babies are taking all of that nutrient from them when they're breastfeeding, because they're growing and developing their brains and they desperately need all those omega-3s and that leaves mom depleted. And then that wave of hormonal shifts and changes, estrogen rising and falling, really can impact serotonin levels. And so we know now how to, like I have a better idea now if somebody's dealing with postpartum, how to help them navigate that, both nutritionally and with amino acid therapy.

James Moffitt (23:06.734)
Right.

James Moffitt (23:33.32)
Okay, now you're like talking over my head

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (23:36.353)
Yeah, that's how I'll bring it back down a bit. Just to say there is hope if you have postpartum, right?

James Moffitt (23:40.662)
It's, yes, it all sounds good, but I don't know how all that works. So feel free to educate all of us on all of that.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (23:46.303)
Yeah.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (23:51.766)
Yeah, well, the Omega threes really help our brain to communicate. We cannot get the neurotransmitters across the gaps in our brain to communicate without Omega threes. They reduce inflammation in our body. Our brain, if you took your brain out and you removed all the water from it, it is made up of about 60 to 70 % fat. And so all these healthy fats that we put into our bodies are going to help fuel our brain.

James Moffitt (24:04.086)
Okay.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (24:20.991)
the EPA, sorry, not DPA, DHA. DPA is a supplement. DHA is to the brain what calcium is to the bones. So we need it to help have a healthy functioning brain. And so often when we're new moms, we aren't eating well because we're trying to manage all these other things. We're being woken up half a dozen times in the night to feed new baby.

James Moffitt (24:33.847)
Okay.

James Moffitt (24:43.64)
Right.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (24:49.389)
we have maybe got other kids at home and we're trying to manage, know, we, used to joke that we were lucky if we had, eaten and showered that day, we may or may not have undrawn the curtains. Like we, I had three little ones to get through these feeding protocols right through the day. Yeah. So, yeah, those nutrients are so necessary. So feeding yourself appropriately, when you are, post

James Moffitt (25:06.039)
Right? Right?

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (25:19.105)
part them as well as before you give birth, like it's equally as important.

James Moffitt (25:29.08)
Being a mom is a full-time job, isn't it?

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (25:31.093)
Being a mom is more than a full-time job. Yes. Yeah.

James Moffitt (25:34.702)
Mike.

Well, in many conversations I've had in the past on this podcast, we all know that moms are the primary caregivers in the house when it comes to raising children and when it comes to feeding them.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (25:48.383)
Mm-hmm.

James Moffitt (25:56.098)
Moms play a huge role in nurturing them and providing the emotional support and training that they need, right? And moms have a different role than what dads have. so all of that's important.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (25:59.276)
Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (26:08.513)
Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (26:13.471)
It is. My husband had to learn how to be, well, he's naturally this way anyway, but it was, he has a kind of line that he tells people. They're like, my gosh, you were a dad to three little girls and three teenage girls. And he says, yep, parenting will beat the selfish right out of you if you let it. Because it just, was so many times over the years that he has learned.

to put the girl's needs or my needs well ahead of his own, because he understands how to nurture and how to take care of little girls and how to take care of his wife. And it has just been, and he had a horrible example in his dad in his younger years, his dad was not a healthy character for him to learn from about how to parent. And so, know, his dad set the bar like here, it wasn't hard for him to get past that bar and do better to break the generational

James Moffitt (27:05.976)
Right, right.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (27:08.001)
curses from the past, but he really had to, he didn't have to, he just did. He just not only went past that marker, but like blew it out of the washroom. Those girls adore their dad. They absolutely adore him because he's just, he was there for all the fun stuff, right? I was always there keeping them safe. Like, don't go wandering off down the river. Don't go climbing on the roof. And he's like, let's climb on the roof. Let's go down the river, you know, and letting them be teaching them how to.

not be girly girls, but to be like strong, independent women. Like his adventurous spirit allowed them to learn how to be those things as well, which I just loved.

James Moffitt (27:42.434)
Right?

James Moffitt (27:48.28)
That's awesome. Yeah. And I don't think it's in our nature as men or as guys to nurture. Right. And it's, and especially like my dad had, he had no clue how to demonstrate love towards us kids. You know, we were to be sane, but not heard, you know, we're to sit on the couch, sit on the floor, hands in the laps. Don't, don't speak, don't speak to anybody unless you're spoken to. Don't ask for anything. You know, we.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (27:54.591)
Hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (28:00.662)
Mm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (28:05.493)
Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (28:13.802)
Mm-hmm.

James Moffitt (28:17.486)
I just completely missed out on my childhood. So talk about breaking a generational curse. When I got married and we had children, I wound up listening to James Dobson a lot. I recognized the fact that I had no clue what I was doing. I'm like, what am I supposed to do with these children? So anyway, I listened to James Dobson a lot. We are hardwired to...

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (28:24.672)
Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (28:29.343)
Yes, very helpful.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (28:34.389)
Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (28:39.029)
Mm-hmm.

James Moffitt (28:48.266)
be to our children who our parents were to us, right? That's our, it's hard baked into our psychology. And we have to, when it comes to breaking generational curses, we have to identify those negative things that happen to us and find healing over those things, right? And at the same time, try to do differently and try to...

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (28:51.275)
Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (28:55.968)
Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (29:06.997)
Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (29:12.917)
Yes.

James Moffitt (29:14.35)
to demonstrate love to our children in ways that they need. It's one thing to provide a roof over their head and food for their stomachs and new school clothes. My dad, my mom and dad, they did the best they could with what they had. They were born in the 40s and they were raised in the 50s.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (29:18.399)
Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (29:24.011)
Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (29:32.021)
Mm-hmm.

James Moffitt (29:43.662)
The word emotional intelligence hadn't even been uttered back then, right? Men were told to, that men don't cry, you pull yourself up by your bootstraps, and you work all day and provide for the family, and then when you come home, you can pop open a beer, put your feet up in the recliner, and click the TV, and mom's like, oh, don't bother him, he works all day, leave him alone. Dad's coming home, leave the munch, don't poke the bear, you know?

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (29:47.734)
Right.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (29:53.215)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (30:06.645)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

James Moffitt (30:12.366)
And so luckily the family dynamic has advanced a whole lot since the 60s, right?

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (30:18.983)
Mm-hmm. Yep. It has. you know, I know I'm thinking back through even some of the things I've said on this call today and just I'm well aware it sounds very idyllic. We have had our moments. We have had our moments where we were pulling our hair out, where we were fit to be tied, where we didn't know what the next step was. But again, going back to prayer as a primary thing.

just like, God, I feel so lost and I don't know what I'm doing. Would you please help me? Give me wisdom to know how to handle this. The girls frequently had people in their lives that they could go to if they didn't feel like they could come to us. There were safe spaces that they could go and talk to. And we also went down the path of learning. Like if you don't know what you're doing with this little thing that you've been given and sent home with, then

James Moffitt (31:00.142)
Right? Good.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (31:14.919)
go figure it out, like learn maybe before they even get home because it's really hard once they get home. But like even to just get some of those pieces, you know, we had structure for our day. did growing kids God's way, which I think now like it was still way more we did it diligently with Naomi and it was probably too tough and too strict for her. Like we probably needed more flexibility as parents with her. That's

James Moffitt (31:42.05)
Right. I've heard of that.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (31:44.062)
again, hindsight, right? And, you know, set them down, let them cry themselves sleep. All these things. She's fiercely independent. But by the time I had the twins, you know, I held them like I was much more like I didn't feel I felt like I had missed out on some piece with Naomi with those little ones. Right. And so we fundamentally shifted and changed. And that's part of that growing experience as a parent. You're learning from the mistakes you've made and

James Moffitt (31:46.222)
Sure.

James Moffitt (32:04.983)
Right?

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (32:12.321)
trying to improve and I can guarantee you Naomi, my eldest, she's been in therapy for a number of years. I'm sure we come up sometimes because of things that she feels like were right or not right in the process. And maybe the other two too, I don't know. But generally speaking, we have whole healthy relationships because we were trying to learn as we went and make the best judgment and the best steps that we could at the time.

James Moffitt (32:24.386)
Right? Right.

James Moffitt (32:35.384)
Right?

James Moffitt (32:38.894)
And that's all you can do, right? We're not perfect. We didn't get a manual. I think the parents, as years go by, think they go through kindergarten, grade school, middle school, high school, they transition into young adults. That whole transition that the children are going through, the parents are going through a transition too. It's a very dynamic, flowing,

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (32:40.267)
Yeah.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (33:02.571)
Mm-hmm.

James Moffitt (33:08.856)
set of circumstances, right? And so, I think parents are learning and growing mentally and emotionally and psychologically and spiritually, you know, so, you know, parents are, it's like when you become an adult and you become a parent, it's not like you've arrived. It's not like you've arrived and you have all knowledge, right? And I think sometimes kids,

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (33:33.889)
Mm-hmm.

James Moffitt (33:38.946)
maybe teenagers, they think we're supposed to have all the answers, right? We don't, we don't have all the answers. We're just doing the best we can.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (33:42.463)
Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (33:45.942)
Mm-mm.

Right. And the dynamics of the world are changing around us. It is not the world that when I got married and got, you know, I'm my first baby at 21 years old, I'm nearly 50 now, the world is radically different than it was. And that we're learning to navigate situations and circumstances that never would have crossed our radar 30 years ago. So we're always having to change and adapt for sure.

James Moffitt (34:07.328)
Right, right.

James Moffitt (34:12.59)
Absolutely. So I think that's going to give the listening audience some hope and some encouragement.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (34:13.311)
Yeah.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (34:22.155)
Good, good, I'm glad.

James Moffitt (34:24.426)
Yeah. So I'm going ask a couple of questions out of your profile, I think. How did you struggle with depression? How did your struggle with depression shape your approach to nutrition?

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (34:36.479)
Yeah, well, like I talked about in the very beginning, struggle with gluten intolerance that was triggering the anxiety attacks, it started making me think about just how our body is impacted by the things that we put in it. And then once I went to school and started learning all the intricacies and the nuances of everything we put into our body, right, our digestive system, we're massive walking, talking, digesting organisms, most of the

stuff inside our torso is all to do with digestion. We have this tube that runs from our mouth to our anus. And in that tube, all our food goes, it touches everything, it moves out into our body, right? And it has impact wherever it goes. So it really started changing the way I saw my food, I saw it as a way to fuel my body, a way to manage my emotions, a way to

James Moffitt (35:18.936)
Right.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (35:32.962)
find health and healing where I hadn't been able to find it for years. I was overweight and I was struggling with, you know, I ate like an old lady and I was 30 years old. So I had all kinds of, you know, things going on, but it really helped to solve by just changing my diet up. And then as we, as I learned those things, it became incredibly helpful for helping to parent my kids as well.

it changed the way I was, when they started going through episodes of anxiety or episodes of depression, because we have this genetic thing going on, right? It runs in the family. I wasn't standalone. It made me aware of the things that were going on and it gave me the tools to help my kids. So my middle child was struggling with suicidality and just not ideation, but just like I...

James Moffitt (36:07.096)
Sure.

James Moffitt (36:16.696)
Right.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (36:26.281)
I don't want to be here anymore. don't, you know, I don't know what's going on. And for her too, gluten was the key. Now it is not for everyone, but she was so emotionally volatile and struggling so badly. And I had a parent of the year moment. I have no idea, but she made biscuits and that's all she ate all weekend. And she was so ill the next week. And when I put the two pieces together, I was like, the only thing you've eaten all weekend is wheat. So let's take the wheat out and see what happens.

James Moffitt (36:54.85)
Right, right.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (36:56.147)
A week later, I've got a different kid on my hand. When you talk about emotional intelligence, When we've got these kids who are wildly all over the place emotionally, their brains are not fully developed yet, the front temporal lobes are not fixed, and they are eating foods that do not support their mental health, then we have additional moods and emotions that we have to navigate. So not only did it change how I...

you know, treated my own depression and how I saw food in light of that, but it helped me to navigate the emotions of my kids and look at things through that filter and lens. I knew if we had a birthday celebration, we'd be now and everybody had cake and ice cream and soda pop. Like we were in for a roller coaster ride of emotional struggles in the next 24 to 48 hours.

James Moffitt (37:47.48)
Sugar's horrible.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (37:48.449)
It's awful. Yeah.

James Moffitt (37:50.702)
My God. And I, I, uh, I'm 63 and I've, I've struggled with weight gain for the last 20 or 30 years. And I've, last two years I lost 80 pounds and I need to lose another 50. So I've come a long way. Uh, and, and I've been seeing a cardiologist for the last five years and every time I go see him, he hands me this, this paper handout. It's a book called wheat belly. And you read it and it talks about, you got to remove wheat.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (38:03.564)
well done.

Yeah.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (38:16.159)
Mm-hmm.

James Moffitt (38:20.206)
completely from your diet because it's horrible. And well, I've learned that, you know, eating ice cream and sugary stuff and you know, I'm diabetic, type 2 diabetic, so I had to go see a dietician and basically if the food tastes good, you're not supposed to eat it. It's bad for you. It really sucks. Let's know because we have to eat, right? I was listening to this nutritionist, she's talking about portion control.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (38:37.313)
Well that's not fair, we really have to...

We do have to eat.

James Moffitt (38:50.07)
Like you're only supposed to eat the same amount of food as the size of your fist. Cause your stomach is only so big. You're not supposed to horse feed, know, horse feed yourself and you know, eat fast because your brain doesn't have time to talk to your stomach or stomach talks to your brain says, dude, I, you know, I thought your throat was cut, but now I've got enough food. You can stop shoving stuff into your pie hole. Right? I'm like, okay. And so I was listening to this lady talk for.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (38:55.381)
Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (39:03.839)
Right.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (39:08.533)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

James Moffitt (39:17.23)
Four hours my wife was there and I just raised my hand and I said, so I'm hungry and you're gonna let us go out and eat lunch. so I guess the cheeseburger and fries is not on the menu, right? She was like, no, no, that's what's gotten you where you're at today. I'm like, great. So anyway, yeah, if it's like white rice, white wheat, flour, mashed potatoes, protein.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (39:26.209)
Mm-hmm. Nope.

Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (39:39.583)
Mm-hmm.

James Moffitt (39:45.42)
vegetables, fruit, some fruit, you know, and you have to eat a balanced diet, you know. And once I started, once I started getting that under control, and like I used to drink six, six, 12 ounce cans of soda pop a day, right? Yeah, you know, I just, you know, that's what I would, that's what I would drink. like, you know, cherry Coke, anything that had cherry in it. Cherry Pepsi, cherry Dr. Pepper, cherry Coke, it didn't matter.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (39:47.552)
Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (40:01.123)
my goodness, that's a lot.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (40:12.031)
Mm-hmm.

James Moffitt (40:15.726)
And so they were like, yeah, sugar is bad for you. got to stop it. You got to if you want to get your blood sugar under control. And so now I drink a couple of sips of soda for lunch and dinner. And then I put a put a cork in it, stick it in the refrigerator for the next meal. You know, I don't drink a 12. I don't ever hardly drink a 12 ounce soda pop by itself in one sitting. Right. And then we get those. Yeah.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (40:27.681)
Mmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (40:40.491)
Well, congratulations, because that's huge. Like sugar is so addictive. you know, kudos to you because those are massive milestones that you've managed to reach. That's amazing.

James Moffitt (40:50.818)
Yeah, and I drink, I drink water all day long. That's all I drink. when they were like, you're supposed to drink eight, eight ounce glasses of water a day. And I was like, what? There's no way I can choke down eight, eight ounce glasses of water. just, you have to take baby steps, right? And I had to take, I had to take baby steps instead of drinking six, six soda pops a day, I drank four or three, you know, and I just kind of stepped down over a period of time and shit.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (40:53.771)
Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (41:01.685)
Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (41:07.391)
Mm-hmm. Yes.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (41:13.438)
Mm-hmm.

James Moffitt (41:17.582)
And the same thing with exercise. You know, I had to learn how to when you're when you weigh 300 pounds or more, it is difficult to get off the couch and go do exercise. Right. And wow. So I learned how to you're supposed to walk 10,000 steps a day. I got up to where I was like 12 to 15,000 steps. It didn't happen overnight, though, like I had to had to walk to the end of the driveway, come back, sit down. I had to walk down the street, you know.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (41:38.625)
great.

No.

James Moffitt (41:46.872)
couple of houses, come back. And so then I started making a route around the neighborhood, right? And walking is the simplest exercise you can do. It's the best for you, right? And yeah, so I...

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (41:55.87)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. It's very good for you.

James Moffitt (42:04.238)
I haven't arrived, I still have issues and I'm still working on them and I may be dead before I actually get them under control but...

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (42:05.162)
Yeah, you have.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (42:16.209)
I think most of us are going to be dead before we get all of our things under control, to be quite honest, right? It's a journey.

James Moffitt (42:20.896)
I have heard from some sources that we don't make it out of this live.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (42:25.395)
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, and it's about progress, not perfection. Right.

James Moffitt (42:29.134)
Right, what is, uh, there's a Washington has a saying in a lot of his movies. Uh, progress, not perfection. That's it. Yeah. Progress, not perfection. As long as you're making us making baby steps towards changing things in your life to make you, you know, uh, don't know if you saw any of the equalizer movies. You probably haven't. Uh, they're a little bit on the, they're action flicks, right? So anyway.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (42:39.467)
Mm-hmm.

Right.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (42:53.62)
No.

Mm-hmm

James Moffitt (42:58.318)
He tells, in several of the scenes in these movies, he's running across, you know, prostitutes, ladies of the night, drug addicts, know, things like that. like, he says, if you don't like your life, change it. Change your life. Change your world. Right? And they're like, you know, they're so immersed and buried and in chains and bondage to all the negative stuff that's in their lives.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (43:12.683)
Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (43:26.229)
Mm-hmm.

James Moffitt (43:27.672)
when you tell them to change their world or they're like, this is my world. What do you mean change your world? And it's not, you just don't go to sleep at night and then wake up and you change your world and all of sudden everything's better, right? You just have to take baby steps. You have to make small progressive changes that will help you do whatever it is you want to do in life. And that very much, that is very much a good, that's a good message for those that are listening. know, if you've got, if you've got issues with your mental health.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (43:30.507)
Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (43:38.049)
Yeah.

James Moffitt (43:57.474)
your physical health, with nutrition, know, self-care. Just take one thing out of each podcast episode and apply that slowly and surely to your life and after a while you'll start seeing some changes, right?

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (43:58.25)
Mm-hmm.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (44:05.311)
one thing.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (44:14.421)
Yeah, this is a more than 20 year journey now. It's a 21 year journey that I have been on. And like I said, it's had its roller coaster moments. We've had our ups and downs. Are we better than we were 21 years ago? We are 100 % better than we were 21 years ago. I was packing up my belongings, bringing them home from work because I couldn't hold down a job anymore because my mental health was so destroyed. And here I am running my own company, helping other people on their journey.

James Moffitt (44:23.278)
Sure.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (44:43.263)
to navigate their, you know, their mental health. That is, you know, remarkable. That is restoration. That's what restoration looks like. It's better than you could have ever imagined it being. And it's a joy and a delight to be able to show up with purpose that's come out of your pain. And I know those things sound so cliche and so trite, but they are so very true. We've been through each one of these journeys that we're going through. We don't have to stay the victim. We can choose to become the victor.

James Moffitt (44:50.091)
Absolutely.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (45:12.639)
There is a spiritual element to that, to finding our help, to finding a path. And there is practical things that we also need to take responsibility for and start changing. And those are easier said than done. Like you said, if you're 300 pounds and sitting on a couch, then it's hard to have the motivation to get up and do the things you need to do. But the more you do it and the more you ingrain those habits and the more tiny steps you take, you're walking through life anyway.

So start making changes today that you will, as you go through this journey of life, they're going to take you to a space where you're a healthier you. So that you can show up in the way that you wanna show up as a mom, as a dad, as a kid in a family, as an employee, as a child of a grown parent. Yeah, all the things that you need to be.

James Moffitt (45:41.336)
Sure.

James Moffitt (46:04.718)
So how can parents support their adult children's mental health through diet?

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (46:09.843)
it gets harder the older they get because they're so independent. You know, I think we have more influence when they're younger, to be very honest and candid. So my encouragement is if you've still got younger kids at home, then start there train, work together at night, make meal time and meal prepper family activity that's fun that you do together that they're learning skills that they can take into their adult life. With ours, we had

James Moffitt (46:13.614)
Right?

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (46:38.555)
one that really kind of pushed back and the second she could drive, she bought all her and had a job. She would buy all her meals out and she chose not to eat healthy foods. And we had to step back and let her make those choices because she was a young adult. Now in the last, six to nine months, she started saying, I have this going on, I have that going on.

how do I navigate that mom? And that is the place where we come back to that consultant piece, right? As a parent, because I want things for my kids very, very badly. Like I want them to feel healthy. I want them to enjoy their lives, but we have to step back and allow them to make mistakes and learn for themselves. I think a lot of the time, because those lessons when they learn them become so much more personal.

and something that they are able to grab hold of them with both hands and apply and resonate with. If I just tell them something, we've all got different kids, right? Some of you can just tell them and they're like, I don't want to be in trouble, I'll just do that. And some are like, let me see, let me see how that goes. And, you know, again, we're not, it's hard when they're like really struggling with addiction or some of those other pieces and we're blessed not to have had to.

face that struggle. have a sibling, my husband has siblings who struggle with those things. But our kids are okay. But just as far as their, their food is concerned, it's just been a case of stepping back and then living by example, and then allowing them to ask when they need help and then being supportive and not being the, well, it's about blooming time you asked, you know, I've seen this been a problem for years and years and years, you know, we're not coming at this in a judgmental space. We're coming at this as a

James Moffitt (48:27.106)
Right, I told you so. Right, right, it's important that our adult children feel safe that they can come to us. What are some simple dietary changes you recommend for mental well-being? That's talking adult children and parents.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (48:28.491)
How can I come alongside you and help support you?

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (48:37.287)
Mm-hmm. Yep.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (48:47.967)
Yeah, all peoples across the world, all peoples should be on protein, especially if you've got a mental health stuff going on. One of the first things I encourage my people to do is get their blood sugar regulated because the drop in blood sugar over a short period of time, about 30 points, which happens more often than you know.

James Moffitt (48:50.306)
Right, all people, there you go.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (49:13.361)
can cause the body to feel very much like it's out of homeostasis and it's dysregulated and it's seeking balance. So to combat that we're doing protein every three hours throughout the day. And you know, as we get older, as we get older, as we get further into that journey, sometimes we're able to space that out. So we're really only having three major meals a day, but are in the process of beginning that baby steps.

James Moffitt (49:27.255)
Interesting.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (49:41.366)
We're feeding our body to keep our brain stable all the way through the day. We're filling up half our plate with the non starchy veg. So things like broccoli, cauliflower, Brussels sprouts, and you can make them taste good. It takes a while to shift and change those taste buds because they've been trained that salt, sugar and fat are the things that, you know, go off in your brain and make you feel happy. But I love the flavors of my vegetables. I can taste them now where I couldn't before.

James Moffitt (49:58.136)
Sure.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (50:10.207)
because my taste buds have been retrained. And then we do a quarter of the plate depending on your blood sugar status. Like if you have type two diabetes, then we're probably not gonna put sweet potatoes on your plate because it'll probably drive everything crazy. But we might be able to do some quinoa or maybe some winter squash or something like that as a healthy starch. Maybe a little bit of fruit for dessert, a little bit of...

James Moffitt (50:10.755)
Right.

James Moffitt (50:26.273)
Ugh.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (50:38.707)
a drink, not a massive drink. I tend to advise warmer drinks with your meals as well. And then healthy fats. So we need those desperately to be able to communicate in the brain to help build our brain. Our whole body is made up of lipids and fats. So olive oil and fish oil.

James Moffitt (50:57.152)
I always say we're a huge chemistry set.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (51:02.163)
We are a huge chemistry set. Yeah, I did more biochemistry and nutrition classes than I ever did in high school. And it was kind of a shock to the system. But I came away pretty proud of myself for being able to understand some of those concepts. Yeah.

James Moffitt (51:09.166)
All

James Moffitt (51:13.262)
There you go.

Well, it's very interesting and you're very knowledgeable in that area and that brings a lot to the table. so listeners could gain practical insights on using dietary changes to support mental health, inspiring them to consider nutrition as a tool for fostering emotional stability in themselves and their families. the takeaway for this podcast episode is, look at your diet.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (51:37.952)
Mm-hmm.

James Moffitt (51:45.465)
What are you eating? What are you consuming? Is it really good for you? Go talk to a nutritionist. Talk to your primary care physician. Ask somebody that is trained in this sort of thing and start making, listen to what they say and try to start taking baby steps to improve your diet. then, at the same time you're doing that, it's going to improve your well-being and your emotional status.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (51:46.305)
Mm-hmm.

James Moffitt (52:15.178)
all that, your mindset and everything.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (52:17.781)
Yes.

James Moffitt (52:20.942)
Jane? I forgot your name. I had to scroll up. was like, what is her name? Jane, thank you for being here. I appreciate everything you brought to the episode today. It was wonderful talking to you and congratulations on 30 years of marriage and having three wonderful adult children that you actually get along with and can talk to. Yes. That's awesome.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (52:26.504)
That's alright.

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (52:44.469)
I do, I like them.

James Moffitt (52:48.844)
I think I like my children more than they like me, if I were to be honest. But it's a work in progress, right?

Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (52:52.207)
Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (52:55.743)
Yes, it's always a work in progress.

James Moffitt (52:58.038)
Right. So to my listening audience, I'll say thank you for listening to this, to today's episode. You can listen to this podcast on Amazon Music, iHeart Radio, Apple Podcasts, and Public Radio. If you're on Apple Podcasts listening to this episode, you can actually on the, on your phone, you can actually click on review and leave a review right there. You can also listen to this on Activate FM. I used to be on Spotify, but I've moved my hosting to Activate FM. You can watch the video.

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Jayne Reynolds, BCHN® (54:24.46)
Thank you so much for having me, James. It's been a delight to be on today.

James Moffitt (54:28.046)
Okay.