The Kava Hour #035

This week on The Georgia Avenue Podcast, Vic, Trevor & Jack welcome Kaitlyn Healy. 

It’s a relaxing hour and we may have never had a better time.

Jog on!

Transcript

Welcome And Chaos At The Mic

SPEAKER_04 0:00

Well over the George Avenue Podcast. I'm Trevor. I'm Vic.

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And I'm Caitlin.

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God damn, man. You couldn't even let me hit record without me. I'm fucking with you, man. You always are.

SPEAKER_06 0:09

So Caitlin, what's your fucking name?

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What's up, Caitlin?

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What's your last name? Healy. That's how I greet my parents every Sunday when we talk.

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I swear.

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If I called my mom right now and I went, whoever answers the phone would definitely say, wahat's up right back.

SPEAKER_04 0:27

Bailey responds in CNA too.

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Yeah, she knows.

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She knows the look at her.

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Nick's too old to remember that.

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Healy's my dog for everyone listening.

SPEAKER_06 0:36

Yeah, we got a new guest in the house. Yo, we got trying out for Jack's producing roles if she can't see up on time. All right, we got a new mascot. Yeah. Toma fucking tear this damn building down.

SPEAKER_04 0:51

Sorry, I gotta move the course. Oh, God. So, Caitlin. Caitlin, what's going on? Good to see you. Thanks for being here. Thanks for having me. Yeah, yeah. So what's going on? No, I was just making a transition.

SPEAKER_06 1:06

You don't like no shit in the street. I'm just making a transition. When you start talking shit. When you start doing your shit, you don't want nobody to want everybody to be quiet. Sit down, classroom, and be quiet.

SPEAKER_04 1:16

Oh man. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, so that's how we are, Caitlin.

SPEAKER_06 1:22

Okay.

How Caitlin Found The Show

SPEAKER_04 1:24

Usually it takes us about 20 minutes before Vic starts. That's fine. Yeah, but. But so so what's going on? How are we? Uh normally we talk start off talking about how you know how we all know each other and what brings so and what brings you down to Georgia Avenue. Gotcha. That kind of stuff. So but but we we just met you tonight. So exactly.

SPEAKER_02 1:40

Hi. So yeah, I found Georgia Avenue Podcast via the the social integrams, interwebs, whatever we want to call it. And Instagram is what I was getting at. And a number of my personal and professional connections have been on the podcast. And then I saw you guys had a call to action for like, hey, if you want to be a guest, sign up. Gabriel Hannes.

SPEAKER_06 1:59

Gabriel.

SPEAKER_02 2:00

And I don't remember Jess's last name, but she's a fabulous therapist. She has a great hug, Barley. Yes, Jessica. So I called her Jessica and then he said Jess. So then now I said Jess. Now you're saying Jessica. It's fine. We all know who Jessica is.

SPEAKER_06 2:12

Yeah, that's funny.

SPEAKER_02 2:13

And she's great. And we gotta get her back on. I'm just trying to do more things and get out of my comfort zone and you know, rejection therapy, but I didn't get rejected, so here we are.

SPEAKER_04 2:25

So this is out of your comfort zone?

Singing And The Talent Show Push

SPEAKER_02 2:27

No, like out that's maybe not uh it's atypical for me. Like it's not something I am commonly accustomed to. So like I'm trying something new in that way.

SPEAKER_06 2:36

All right. So you said that you fucking sing.

SPEAKER_02 2:40

I sing, yeah. We can talk about that.

SPEAKER_06 2:42

You didn't collar out that early. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:45

I gotta warm up a little bit.

SPEAKER_06 2:46

Yeah, yeah, that'll get a voice warm.

SPEAKER_02 2:48

Yeah, let me let me let me we can look back that way. We can talk about singing though.

SPEAKER_06 2:51

No, we don't want to talk about singing. We want you to hit some shit. Oh, we can talk about singing.

SPEAKER_04 2:55

Who's your favorite singer?

SPEAKER_02 2:57

Who's my favorite singer?

SPEAKER_04 2:58

Or what got you into it? Don't say gay, bro. He sang for us last week.

SPEAKER_02 3:02

I really love so so I was in Delan's Got Talent. I'm gonna make a plug for them, which is uh a talent show put on by the Rotary Clubs of West Falucia. Yeah, they did that for the first time this past year, and I made it to the finale, and I sang a Sarah Sarah Borelis song, and I really, really love her. I think she's a uh give us a little fucking is the finale is the finale like top ten? Uh top 11. Top 11? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 3:24

At Athens Theater? Give us a finale.

SPEAKER_02 3:27

Yeah. Finale. So the live auditions will actually be this Sunday at Ivy Hahn Charter School. And then there's like a month of online voting. You can do like a free vote a day. You can pay for extra votes. I want to make it to the top 11, y'all vote for me. And and then the finale will be. The finale will be March 20th. Give us 12 bars. May 29th.

SPEAKER_06 3:49

Give us 12 fucking bars. I don't know. Sing your damn you just like you like so much.

SPEAKER_02 3:55

I want to sing that again. I sang that for the contest. What have I been listening to on Spotify?

SPEAKER_04 4:01

You got Spotify, huh?

SPEAKER_02 4:02

Yeah, I got Spotify. What are people gonna be doing? I'm trying to get off it. I know it's not the greatest.

SPEAKER_04 4:06

I went to Title for a while. Yeah, I mean, you know, not to get all not to get all controversial about it. But it is what it is, you know. I mean, like I mean, you're not gonna get canceled over having a Spotify subscription. I sure hope not. I hope you have cooler friends than that. I I had title for a little while. Title just has a better, better sound quality, less less processed music. Spotify's a lot more MP3s, but I guess Spotify's gone the lossless route these days, too, I've heard. But I haven't been on Spotify in years.

SPEAKER_02 4:36

It's what I've been on since, I don't know, 2010. No, yeah, I've it's a it's a pretty heavy catalog of like my listeners.

SPEAKER_06 4:43

Blah, blah, blah. It was really tough. I want to hear a song. I want to hear him for it.

SPEAKER_04 4:50

Like a child. Come on, Podcast. Well, Walter Sochak or something.

SPEAKER_06 4:55

Who?

SPEAKER_04 4:55

Walter Sochak? Who the fuck is that? So Walter Sochak. You don't want to meet him. He's a prick. Yeah. He is a prick.

SPEAKER_01 5:06

Okay, wait, I think I found something. Okay. So shit.

Bandits On The Run Discovery

SPEAKER_06 5:10

All right, podcast we're all get ready. Get your vote money out.

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Now I now I am all embarrassed.

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Get your vote money out.

SPEAKER_00 5:16

I've never been to Paris. But you can draw me like one of your French girls. I dream of getting married. You dream of traveling the world. I've never been to Paris. But baby, maybe that's all right. Cause when I look at you now, I see my own city of light.

SPEAKER_06 5:38

Who's that?

SPEAKER_02 5:39

That's my friend's Bandits on the Run. They're three-piece based out of Brooklyn, New York. I live there for a few years. Damn, nice. Always gotta plug them.

SPEAKER_04 5:47

So On the Runs are brand new?

SPEAKER_02 5:49

Bandits on the Run.

SPEAKER_04 5:50

Oh, Bandits on the Run.

SPEAKER_02 5:51

Bandits on the Run. Yeah. That's all right.

SPEAKER_04 5:52

Three-piece band from did you say Brooklyn?

SPEAKER_02 5:54

Yeah. Nice voice. Thanks.

SPEAKER_04 5:56

Yeah, that was awesome. Thanks.

SPEAKER_02 5:58

I made it myself.

SPEAKER_04 5:59

They're on a Spotify, huh? How long have they been around?

SPEAKER_02 6:02

They've been around roughly 2014. I moved to Brooklyn in 2014 and then I bumped into them on the subway, and then they were becoming a band. So yeah. And you joined them? I wish.

SPEAKER_06 6:15

That's how shit happens in fucking New York.

SPEAKER_04 6:17

That line about uh you can draw me like your French girls or what I was like, I was like, I've never heard a song that references the movie Titanic before. Titanic reference.

SPEAKER_02 6:25

I was like, this is I was like, yeah, I was like, and they have a fun music video on the the Brooklyn, not the Brooklyn Pier, the Coney Island Pier, and you know Okay.

SPEAKER_04 6:32

I've been to I I've been to New York once, but I've I only saw Manhattan Island and uh and the kitchen in Yonkers in Ardsley. Ardsley's an awesome little village just north of Hill's Kitchen, but in Yonkers.

SPEAKER_02 6:43

Yeah, I was born in Brooklyn and then raised in Daltona. And then after college. Yeah, I'd go to Daltona.

SPEAKER_04 6:48

And then when did you come to Daltona? Sorry.

SPEAKER_02 6:50

94. Wow. So I was itty bitty. So I did like great all grade school. Seven? Not like two.

SPEAKER_04 6:57

Oh, you were two. Oh, yeah. So you're born in ninety two. That was my way of gauging. I'm thirty three.

SPEAKER_02 7:02

My birthday is in two weeks. Like I'm not sure. Born in ninety two.

unknown 7:05

Yeah. Damn.

SPEAKER_05 7:07

When were you born?

SPEAKER_02 7:08

Getting older is a privilege. I'm not I'm not embarrassed. Like it is. Society is like, oh, you're getting older. Ew. It's like no.

SPEAKER_05 7:14

I was born in the fifties. You good. People are lucky to uh get older. Like it's in the night. It's in the 1950s.

SPEAKER_02 7:21

Yeah. I mean, my dad was born in 50.

SPEAKER_06 7:23

You don't?

SPEAKER_02 7:24

My dad. Oh, yeah. What's his name?

SPEAKER_06 7:27

Grandpa?

SPEAKER_02 7:28

Greg.

SPEAKER_06 7:29

Shout out to Greg. Shout out to Greg. What's up, pimp? 50 brothers. Greg's a pimp.

SPEAKER_02 7:35

Yeah. Not really, but I mean he's a good guy. Oh, there goes the door.

SPEAKER_04 7:41

What you doing, Bailey?

SPEAKER_02 7:42

Uh oh.

SPEAKER_04 7:43

Bailey's like, oh, that table table looks like a good place to land it.

Kava Bars As Sober Third Spaces

SPEAKER_02 7:46

No, you're not you're not walking around, honey. Um but yeah, so I sing. I hang out at the Kava bar. If you've never tried Kava, try Kava bar.

SPEAKER_04 7:54

Uh Sunset?

SPEAKER_02 7:55

Yeah.

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Up on a church.

SPEAKER_02 7:57

I never knew the name Sunset.

SPEAKER_06 7:58

I just knew it was a fucking Kava bar.

SPEAKER_02 8:00

Yeah, church and Woodland.

SPEAKER_04 8:01

Woodland, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Wits is on the corner of church, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 8:04

Exactly. Yeah. Yes. So that's cool.

SPEAKER_04 8:06

Yeah, I haven't done the Kava thing.

SPEAKER_06 8:07

We gotta everything is gonna be very specific with him. Good friend of ours loves Kava. Although it's on the corner. It is on the corner.

SPEAKER_02 8:14

Wits is on the corner and then Sunset is next. I know. 222 North Woodland Boulevard. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 8:20

Our friend Lauren used to go down to go down there and hang out and drink Kava. Well, Courtney. You know Courtney. Oh, Courtney, yeah. Courtney too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 8:27

Courtney used to be there a lot. I don't know if she's still here.

SPEAKER_02 8:29

She is over at Roots now, I think.

SPEAKER_04 8:31

Oh, really? Roots?

SPEAKER_02 8:32

Roots is another Kava bar off 15.

SPEAKER_04 8:35

Oh. And then we had two in the advanced.

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We have three.

SPEAKER_04 8:38

Oh wow. It's really it's really blown up.

SPEAKER_02 8:40

And then we have mantra up by Lowe's. And then Bayob opened in Orange.

SPEAKER_04 8:45

So what's the deal? Why is it uh why is this thing become so popular? I've been like I I I've talked to a few people about it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:50

Oh, I can't speak for everyone, but I haven't been drinking since 2024. And I wanted, I was like missing that like late night social third space environment that didn't involve like going to a restaurant and like racking up a$30 bill, or you know, or going to a pool hall and like what restaurant are you racking up a$30 bill?

SPEAKER_04 9:11

I don't know. Well, I'm a single person. That's how much it costs to walk in the door. I guess so.

SPEAKER_02 9:16

Yeah, I was looking for something different, and then a friend was like, hey, come hang out at this place with me one night. And then I met the people. And so it's a lot of people who are on a sobriety journey and they want a social element in their nightlife.

SPEAKER_04 9:28

Is that is that the big hook to it? Is uh is people on the path of sobriety. It's not it's not a cat, it's not a casual thing that people just pick up.

SPEAKER_02 9:36

I'm I'm gonna let her off if that's okay.

SPEAKER_04 9:38

Yeah, that's fine.

SPEAKER_02 9:39

She won't get into anything crazy. Bailey, come here, please. Oh Lord. Sorry, y'all. Uh oh. It's different. I think it's different for everyone. Like some people come hang out, and some people don't drink kava or kratom. They just want to come and hang out with the crazy.

SPEAKER_04 9:58

There's kratom drinks as well. Yeah. I knew it was closely related.

SPEAKER_02 10:00

Yeah. So they have kava and then they have three strains of Kratom: a red tea, a red tea, a green tea, and a white tea. And you can put all different kinds of like flavor ads in the case.

SPEAKER_06 10:11

What is what is fucking Kratom?

SPEAKER_02 10:14

So Kratom is a different part of the same plant prepared in a different way. I believe. Check it out. Someone in the Kava community is gonna slay me for being wrong on this. But but the both both servings excite different receptors in your brain, but they don't attach to them. So one of them excites like the same receptors that alcohol would attach to, and one excites the same receptors that opiates would attach to, but they don't actually lock in and impair you the same way that like consuming alcohol or an opiate would. So typically for many people, there is a light relaxation, a mild euphoria, but it's in it's in it in no way like compromises you. So like you could operate a vehicle, you could sign a lease, you know, you could make a verbal contract, and like that's like a binding agreement kind of thing.

SPEAKER_04 11:05

So I I don't want to put you on the spot or anything, but so I think I'm on, I think I'm on already. I know laws I know 10 or 15 years ago, Kraton was really popular for for people in in recovery uh from uh opium and things like that. Sure. But but the laws were real strict and people were, you know, big big heroin or whatever was trying to keep it out, or because like you could only go to like random like back alley of flea markets and you could find bags of it or whatever. But but now you can sell, but now you can buy it at a shop.

SPEAKER_02 11:32

So do you know anything about the laws and why they so I act so it's interesting that you bring this up because there are actively laws trying to be passed to further restrict the current access and consumption. Shout out to Jamie Torgler, who is one of the owners of Sunset Kava Bar. He was up at legislative session within relatively like the path maybe it was the past few months or maybe it was last year.

SPEAKER_04 11:52

We're talking on a state level or a local level.

SPEAKER_02 11:53

Oh, yeah, no tell happy.

SPEAKER_04 11:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 11:55

And, you know, and just said, like, you know, this is something that we have seen has been good to the community. Members of our community come to us and tell us this, like unsolicited. This is one of our family businesses, so this is a way that we, you know, provide income for our family. So like we really urge you to not take this away from us. So I don't know what the status of that is, but yeah, I think like anything, you can overdo it. Like, right? You could have one glass of wine at dinner and it'd be fine. And then you could have two bottles and not be so good. So, you know, there's some people who have tried kava. Have have you ever had like a five-hour energy drink at the gas station? Sure. So they sell like a kava shot, and some people, the bottle very explicitly says, like, don't consume more than one a day. And there are people who go in and get eight a day and like are actual are actually like fiending for it.

SPEAKER_04 12:46

People will abuse anything, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:47

And like gas station attendants are pulling the product off the shelf and hiding it so that when those people come in, they're just like, nope, we're out because they just don't even want to deal with the interaction. So you know, like everyone has to be responsible and have self-awareness.

SPEAKER_06 13:00

You're talking about the five out five hour energy drink or the kratom?

SPEAKER_02 13:04

The the kava? So there's kava shots served in a bottle like a five-hour energy drink. Concentrated. Concentrated.

SPEAKER_06 13:11

Yeah. At the gas station, or really?

SPEAKER_02 13:13

Yeah. So like at I I mean, I don't know which chains do and don't serve, but I'm sure if you drove around around to land you could you could find one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 13:21

Well, there there's been a lot of issues with, I mean, even with like, you know, I I got a lot of a lot of opinions on uh Delta 8 and all this like hamping stuff that we're selling at head shops and but here we go. So so people are so people are abusing it to a degree, I guess. What you're saying. At least you know, some people are, you know, that we don't want to demonizer or nothing.

SPEAKER_01 13:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 13:41

I'm sure I'm sure what's a cup of kava cost at the at the cava bar?

SPEAKER_02 13:46

A single cost five dollars, a double cost nine. Is that like a twelve ounce drink or like I think it's a six ounce and then a twelve ounce? And then typically with the kava, you can flavor it with a creamer or some like fruit or like chocolatey flavors, and then if you get the kratom, which is a tea that's a little more bitter, they have a lot more like fruity flavored things.

SPEAKER_06 14:09

So they have like a whole set of bottles of flavors of what would be the main difference between Kratom and Kava?

SPEAKER_02 14:18

How it makes you feel, I think. I feel more relaxation when I drink kava compared to Kratom, but there's people who react differently to that. I think Kratom also has more physical pain relief benefits. So if so if you are someone who's at the chiropractor all the time, maybe come hang out and try a glass of Kratom and just see, try one, take it slow, see how you feel.

SPEAKER_03 14:40

Really?

SPEAKER_02 14:41

Yeah, I'm by no means an expert. If you really want to learn about this, I definitely I'll tell you know, Jamie and Marcy to come down and you can interview them. But I think the the the more important part of it for me is that I have found community when I was really desperate for community. And it's community that is really sincere and authentic and isn't muddled by alcohol. And I'm not here to like demonize alcohol, it just wasn't something that was serving me in my life, and I found made relationships more difficult as as I get a little a little toast in the corner by the gentleman. But no, yeah, yeah, I'm not here to to tell anyone otherwise. I just knew for myself I didn't want to keep doing that. And so then I was like, okay, wait, now it's like Friday and Saturday night, and like I'm bored. Like, where do I go?

SPEAKER_04 15:23

We don't we we don't have to get too personal, but uh did uh was your experience with alcohol?

SPEAKER_02 15:27

Does it was it was it something you just felt was kind of a hindrance to to your day-to-day life and what you were doing, or not my day-to-day, but there came a point where I I was just kind of reflecting, and when I was younger, I kind of set myself this rule of like alcohol is meant to aid and enhance happy moments, not to escape in dull sad moments.

SPEAKER_03 15:47

Awesome.

SPEAKER_02 15:48

And so then some many years went by, and then I had this pivotal moment of like, oh, wait, I've been telling myself I've been enhancing happy moments, but in reality, I have been escaping negativity. Fair enough. And so then I made this decision of like, okay, well, I'm just gonna hit pause, and then that pause just has awesome. I never hit resume again. Cool, that's awesome. And I'm and I'm I'm good with it. And you know, there's days where I'm like, oh man, an Amaretto sour would be so nice. Or a little gin and Tana would be so nice.

SPEAKER_04 16:17

You liked liquor then. I was I was never a big liquor drinker. Yeah, I was a straight edge for a lot of my life.

SPEAKER_02 16:22

No, not be not into beer, not into wine, gin. Gin and I were homies.

SPEAKER_04 16:26

I I love wine and beer, so that's yeah, those are my those are my hoax advices with outdoor.

Ripple Leadership Coaching Philosophy

SPEAKER_06 16:31

All right, Nana, we've gone down that long road where your pleasure road. What do you actually do?

SPEAKER_02 16:41

What do I actually do? Well, I do a lot of things. Are you referring to my profession? My hobbies, okay.

SPEAKER_06 16:46

No, I like to cover it. I thought that that was your hobby right there, right?

SPEAKER_04 16:49

Yeah, just cover.

SPEAKER_02 16:50

Just consuming a drink. That's not my old.

SPEAKER_06 16:54

What do you do have a person now?

SPEAKER_02 16:56

Yeah, so so I partnered up with my mentor about a year and a half ago, and we have co-founded Ripple Leadership Coaching, which is a leadership coaching practice. And I think really the mission that we're on is trying to instill in people in a business setting that just because you don't have a seat at like the C-suite executive table doesn't mean you're a leader. In fact, every person is a leader because yeah, you're a leader when you're a manager, but you're also a leader when you take on a lead role in a volunteer group, or you're a leader when you're a parent in a household with a spouse or with children, or you're a leader when you have an aging parent and you need to do something to take care of them, or you're a leader when you're a friend and you see someone going through a hard time and you're like, I'm here to like demonstrate a way of life to you that could be better, or I'm here to guide you out of something that you're navigating. And so it's really about helping people embrace that mindset shift. We do it primarily in a business setting, but the hope is that people receive the ripple benefit and see positive impact throughout multiple dimensions of their life.

SPEAKER_06 18:00

And how'd you get to that point in your life where you felt like that was your focus on?

SPEAKER_02 18:06

Yeah, I was working at the Delane Chamber of Commerce, and that's where I met Manny De La Vega. Shout out De La Vega restaurant.

SPEAKER_03 18:14

Oh, wow. Oh, De La Vega, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:16

Yeah, everyone knows that. So, so yeah, so I met Manny uh while I was working at the chamber. I had been there for a few months, and he was gonna host a board of director like retreat for the chamber board. And yeah, Bailey's just stalking around.

SPEAKER_06 18:30

I got the door locked so they can just walk in. No, it's fine. I'm not, I was just I was just looking around. I always walk around.

SPEAKER_04 18:36

Sorry for this session. I'm always looking around.

SPEAKER_02 18:38

But but long story short, I was invited to help kind of co-facilitate that session. And the short-sighted part of me was like, oh, I'm gonna get in front of the board, I'm gonna make a good impression. And then I went and I did this like facilitation, and I was like, wait, this was really cool and really fun. And I think it created some positive impact in the room. And then one of the board members came up to me and said, you know, if you don't figure out how to make a career out of what you did in that room today, I'm gonna be really disappointed. So now I had proof of concept that the thing I just really enjoyed was enjoyed by other people. So Manny kind of mentored me for a few months, and then I did some reflection and soul searching, and then I was like, I hope you're ready for a partner because I gave my notice and I'm ready to take the plunge. So it's been a little over a year, and we've had a few clients, and I think we've made some real genuine impact. And I know I know that's the case in some cases because I have people in my network coming to me saying, Oh, I ran into one of your clients, and they're telling me unprompted that you made a positive impact in in their life. And so so I just want to do more of that.

SPEAKER_04 19:42

So how did you meet Manny? Did I mean how long has how long has Manny been your mentor, I guess is what I was saying?

SPEAKER_02 19:47

Yeah, so we so I started working at the chamber in what September of 23. So we probably met like October, November that year. Okay, and then by that following February, March, we did the session. And so now it's been two years that we've known each other, but we've been working with each other a little over a year.

SPEAKER_06 20:04

Okay. I don't know why this is, but that's not one of the spots where go.

SPEAKER_04 20:13

Well, you're a hungry guy, so that's toppis isn't exactly that. It's for out of towners. Unacceptable.

SPEAKER_02 20:20

What do you mean the nachos are the five?

SPEAKER_04 20:22

What I mean is what I mean is that I also don't know anybody that could be.

SPEAKER_06 20:27

Oh, yeah, he's on a new diet.

SPEAKER_02 20:29

I'm doing some crazy they have options that you you could pick a a full healthy sleet if you wanted to. I just that's not my choice.

SPEAKER_04 20:36

He read this book by some guy named uh John Atkins.

unknown 20:40

No.

SPEAKER_04 20:41

No. Sorry, 90s kid joke.

Golden Meals And Serving Seniors

SPEAKER_02 20:43

Well, if if you are trying to dine healthy, I'll make a plug for their other business that you might not know about, which is Golden Meals.

SPEAKER_06 20:50

Where's that?

SPEAKER_02 20:50

Which is so Golden Meals is their fresh and ready to go lunch service out of. Do you know where the CVS Plaza is off of Plymouth?

SPEAKER_04 21:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:01

So in that plaza, there's Oh, they're in the market? The Deland Natural Market.

SPEAKER_04 21:04

They they took over that kitchen.

SPEAKER_02 21:05

They took over that kitchen. They took over the market's kitchen. Yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_04 21:09

What happened? I don't know, but they took it over. It was a lot of work, but but what they do Vegas were kind of like they took it over last last February.

SPEAKER_02 21:16

And so you can go in and get a really healthy, fresh meal. They have wraps ready to go. They also do delivery because part of the passion and inspiration behind that is that a family member of theirs was needing healthy food and like going over and cooking every single day, like becomes tiresome. So, what if we did batch food and prepared plates and then neighbors saw what was happening? And so they were like, there's really a need for the senior community to have access to healthy fresh meals delivered.

SPEAKER_00 21:46

Sure.

SPEAKER_02 21:46

And so they decided they wanted to fill that gap. And and so they do catering. So if I was gonna send you there, they have great meatballs, they have great couscous, they have great because I'm couscous is something I want to try.

SPEAKER_06 21:59

I never had it. Couscous.

SPEAKER_02 22:00

No, it's not couscous. I'm sorry. Quinoa.

SPEAKER_04 22:02

Oh, quinoa.

SPEAKER_02 22:04

They have a three bean salad, which is incredible.

SPEAKER_04 22:06

I got a quinoa burger recipe for you, man.

SPEAKER_02 22:08

A pumpkin soup in the fall. Oh my god. Yeah. So go go through there. Tell them Caitlin sent you.

SPEAKER_06 22:12

I can go now. I'm I was banned from there.

SPEAKER_02 22:14

Monday.

SPEAKER_06 22:16

On the Nart Market? I I personally wasn't banned from there, but my fucking daughter, man. My daughter got into it. The Delaney natural market? Yes. My daughter used to eat lunch there every day. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 22:26

Yeah, I love that book. What happened?

SPEAKER_06 22:27

I was going to say that it's such a good thing. And she had something that wasn't good and she complained about it.

SPEAKER_01 22:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 22:32

And they got into a a confrontation, I think. She's going to say, she's going to listen to the shit. She's going to say, that's not what happened. God damn it. I don't know what the fuck happened. But at any rate, once we can go back now. When she doesn't go somewhere, I can't go.

SPEAKER_02 22:47

So well now you can go.

SPEAKER_06 22:49

Now I can go. So Monday through Friday.

SPEAKER_02 22:53

Monday through Friday, 11 to 3.

SPEAKER_06 22:54

Yeah. Golden meals. Alicia, if you're listening to this shit, we are back.

SPEAKER_04 22:59

She didn't get into it with a Clara Better.

SPEAKER_03 23:01

We are so bad, Alicia.

Consent Privacy And Asking People Out

SPEAKER_04 23:02

Man, there was there. So I I interviewed there once many, many years ago when I was back in Deland looking for looking for kitchen work. And they they happened to be higher. And I was like, I could do grocery store stuff. I've done it before. Buffet, bulk cooking, cafeteria style. It's easy. But I I interviewed with this some girl that was probably a couple years younger than me, but but like the whole interview turned into like her like basically asking me on a date at the end.

SPEAKER_02 23:28

Wildly inappropriate. Yeah, I was like, oh my god, what the fuck is that? Oh my god, that just triggered something in me. Allegedly, human resources. Human resources. That happened to a friend of mine.

SPEAKER_03 23:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:38

She she went in to a T-Mobile to get something done with her phone. And then after the fact, got a phone call from an employee who used the system to get her phone number and then called to ask her out.

SPEAKER_04 23:50

How does anybody think that's okay?

SPEAKER_02 23:52

I don't know. I also don't know why she went on the date. So she went.

SPEAKER_04 23:56

Oh, she went. Oh, I continue to brew, please. Continue to brew. She liked it.

SPEAKER_02 24:03

That's as far as the brew is gonna go on that one.

SPEAKER_06 24:05

So, but no, okay.

SPEAKER_02 24:08

Both of those things are crazy.

SPEAKER_06 24:09

Wait a minute. Hold the fuck up. We ain't just gonna walk away from this. He was interested in her if it was a he.

SPEAKER_02 24:18

The T Mobile guy called my friend.

SPEAKER_06 24:21

And she was interested in him.

SPEAKER_02 24:23

Enough to say yes. I don't know. Yes, I don't know. Absolutely. It's not a choice I would have made. It only went, it was only one date and then it didn't go anywhere.

SPEAKER_06 24:30

Good.

SPEAKER_02 24:31

I think she saw I just don't see enough of us got in her ear.

SPEAKER_04 24:34

Yeah, good. I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 24:35

Maybe Oh, she's just she's probably going, damn, I wish I would have we could have been married by now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 24:40

I've had people offer me get that family plan deal. I've had people offer me girls' numbers before. You know, friends of friends of the girl that I knew that even introduced me to them have offered me girls' numbers. Oh, like just casually. I'm like, well, I'm like, well, hey, like that's not no, I'm like, that's weird. Like if someone calls it if she wants me to have her number, or if I want it, I will if I want to ask her, I'll ask her. And she'll tell me if she wants to tell me. But like I don't, I'm not gonna get it from somebody else.

SPEAKER_02 25:03

If someone triangulated to get my number, the person who gave my number away, dead to me.

SPEAKER_04 25:09

Yeah, absolutely. Unless that person's trying to get a hold of me for something. But if it's to the if it's like in that kind of manner, you know, I'm like, well, no, hey, that's that's that's a little inappropriate.

SPEAKER_02 25:19

Like a business inquiry, sure. Yeah, of course. All right, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. He's not done with this. Hang on.

SPEAKER_06 25:26

Okay, so I get this. In today's world, nobody really meets anybody face to face. Well, maybe they do, but it's a rarity. Exactly. Face-to-face meeting like when I was growing up is kind of a thing of the past. Everything is like social social fucking media.

SPEAKER_02 25:50

Social media and dating, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 25:52

So what is wrong with what is wrong with you knowing a good friend of yours, a girl, and you think that this guy that you met at the fucking grocery store would be a nice is a nice guy. What is wrong with you sharing that information?

SPEAKER_02 26:13

I think that there is an element of consent that both parties need to be aware that the exchange is happening. If my if I had a friend and I went, hey, I just did this podcast and this guy seems really cool, could I connect you guys? Because I think you guys might get along. She's saying yes, and then I'd be like, Hey, I mentioned to my girlfriend that I who's really cool that I did this podcast with you, and I think you guys would really get along. Can I connect you guys? There need I think there needs to be like mutual buy-in for the connection.

SPEAKER_06 26:43

Okay. So you saying that the guy at T-Mobile That was an injection because he that's an invention of privacy. Because he ex he had access to her number is where the shit went wrong.

SPEAKER_02 26:58

Yeah, like if I if I didn't have access to if I was in the store with my friend Lori and he came up to me and was like, Man, your friend's really cute. Like, do you think you could get me her number? I would then like sneakily go over to her and be like, Hey, he thinks you're cute. Can I give him your number? But he used his professional access to bypass her consent to go into the computer, to take the phone number and then call her. That's weird.

SPEAKER_06 27:29

And all she had to do was say, you know, this is kind of weird.

SPEAKER_02 27:34

Yeah, I I don't I don't know why she said yes to the date. I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 27:37

And then she said yes, and then they went on a fucking date.

SPEAKER_04 27:39

Would you would you would you want would you want your friend to be with someone who's not brave enough to approach a girl that he likes, but approach her friend and ask his friend, ask her friend to ask her out for you know you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 27:51

I don't even mind I don't mind that part of it. You know, and I mean like I think I I see where you're coming from. Like, would I be like super excited about it? No. But in a world maybe he's just shy. Well, I was just having a conversation with a friend, a guy at the the Kava bar about this. He's like, it's impossible to approach women because everyone thinks you're a creep and this and that. And like he's he's an attractive guy, he seems to have an okay job. Like, I don't understand why he's single. Like he's seems like a good package. I don't know. But I was just like, Well, you why didn't you give him your fucking number? Maybe I will.

SPEAKER_06 28:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 28:21

Damn.

SPEAKER_06 28:22

Hey, give me his give me his number. You don't have his number.

SPEAKER_02 28:25

I have his number.

SPEAKER_06 28:26

You have his number? Yeah. Give him, give, give him his number.

SPEAKER_04 28:31

Give me his number so he can ask him on a date and we'll see how he's gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_01 28:36

He got me hooked up.

SPEAKER_02 28:37

Um, no, but I just said I was like, you know, I have witnessed either personally or secondhand through like a first degree connection that like saying no to a man can go like really wrong in a really significant way quickly. Oh, yeah.

unknown 28:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:56

What do you mean? Like, what do you mean? Clarify, clarify. Like men, men screaming at you or men putting their hands on you. Like, I I don't want any part of just from saying no? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 29:05

No.

SPEAKER_02 29:06

Oh, yeah, dude. People being followed to their cars, give me your number, give me your number. No, no, yeah, I've seen a shopping cart right into your vehicle.

SPEAKER_04 29:15

Kaylee, Kaylee from episode saying no.

SPEAKER_02 29:18

So it's like, so it's not like it's not conceptual and like what if? It's like, no, like I went on social media and I like if I'm sure if you like search some sort of tag of like creepy guy or something, I don't know. Uh I use I use Instagram. I'm I'm a millennial, I use Instagram. There are real verifiable accounts of like I'm a guy, and like, hey, can I get your number? No, thank you. Oh, but come on, let me get your no thank you. Oh, but come on, I have a I have a boyfriend. Oh, come on, no, don't worry about let me get your Kaylee Kaylee from episode 15.

SPEAKER_04 29:52

Shout out to Kaylee and uh, you know, listen to episode 15, everybody. That's the hook. She uh she she she told a story about this about being at the springs and her and her friends literally getting hassled for like 45 minutes of of yeah, like, oh hey, come on, girl.

SPEAKER_01 30:05

There it is.

SPEAKER_04 30:06

But but no, maybe not the public outrage. Like, you know, what what Vic is the way Vic I think is is hearing it is that like you know a a girl saying no to a guy at like you know here at Da Vinci's at a bar per Simon Hollow or something, and then and then him having a having a breakdown right there on the spot. Like yeah, I've seen it, but but maybe it's not super common.

SPEAKER_02 30:26

I don't think it's completely commonplace, but I think I've seen enough stories of it that I have like I've I've seen I've heard I've got I've got really strong resting bitch face.

SPEAKER_04 30:36

I've heard girls turned down men before.

SPEAKER_02 30:38

I have really strong resting bitch face. Like men don't approach me, which is annoying because I'm like, I'm single and like where is he? And then it's like I catch like a photo of myself, like a candid at the kava bar while I'm playing bingo, and I'm like, oh, that's why men don't approach me.

SPEAKER_04 30:50

But I've seen I've seen men get men get turned down and then they then they'll they'll be it they'll be a dick and make a really rude comment and and walk away or you know, not necessarily cause a scene.

SPEAKER_02 31:00

And I want to own too that women can be really terrible to men. Sure. Like because in today's day and age, it takes a lot of nerve and confidence to like try and be strategic and approach a woman in a way that isn't gonna be, oh, he's a creep or he's this, you know. And some women can be malicious and just like mean for no good reason. And there's no excuse for that behavior either. So like I think people should just try and be good people and like dicks. You seem attractive, and I know nothing about you. And can I take a chance on taking you on a date? And she could say yes or no. And either way, like j just be decent about whatever comes next.

Legacy Planning And Conflict Choreography

SPEAKER_06 31:39

So, what do you do for a living? Is that what you're saying? Approaching we keep getting so fucking off which which I'm not mad about.

SPEAKER_02 31:48

So, one of the things we we do, we talk, so we're talking about relationships now, so we can talk about family dynamics and how sometimes people plan to exit their business and they think that their children are going to take over the business for them.

SPEAKER_03 32:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:02

And then they realize wait, I built this incredible legacy to take care of my family, and my family doesn't want to do have anything to do with this. No, and I see a I see a little bit of a smirk.

SPEAKER_06 32:13

Here's the thing in the room here's the difference. Here's the difference. It can be done and it has been done. But if I retired, I would have to keep the license in my name, which is not a problem. Okay. But should I die, then it becomes another whole issue. Because then one of my kids would have to be licensed.

SPEAKER_02 32:41

Could you bring on could you transition ownership to your children and then put an operator in place and create an equity situation that makes them want to stay in the business, but then leaves a cut of it for your children?

unknown 32:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 32:57

Possibly.

SPEAKER_02 32:58

So that's an option.

SPEAKER_06 32:59

Yeah, but I'm saying as far as because they don't want to operate it. As far as they want to own it. If my kids weren't were to be the CEOs or whatever they then they would have to actually, unless they had someone to qualify. I'm sorry. If they had they would have to have someone to qualify the business, then it becomes something else.

SPEAKER_02 33:18

And yeah, that's that's a level of like licensing that like I don't know about, and so I wouldn't want to like misguide you in that way.

SPEAKER_04 33:23

Yeah. I've known I've known people that uh that have the dream. Obvious obviously they're insane people because they own restaurants. That that think they're gonna leave their restaurant to their children. Like they're they're putting their kids in this situation to where like like you don't nobody wants nobody should own a restaurant. Like, you have to be insane to open a restaurant. I guess like okay. You have to be insane to want to open a restaurant. It takes an insane person to commit their life to that, and then to want your kids to do the same thing, I feel like is a is a big ask.

SPEAKER_02 33:52

I hear you.

SPEAKER_04 33:52

Unless your kids, unless your kids are really into cooking.

SPEAKER_02 33:55

I think if you go into, I mean, I'm not a restaurateur, but my business partner is a restaurateur. I think if you go into it with the mindset of like, what are we really trying to do here? Because I think some people go into it. Like Manny's mindset is why the business is successful. His like tagline isn't like we're a restaurant and like we serve so many plates. It's actually that like we are a place and an environment that brings families together and enriches them. No, so actually he is the business savvy side of it. His sister Nora is the chef there, has been for the 21 plus years that the business has been in operation.

SPEAKER_06 34:31

21 years?

SPEAKER_02 34:32

21 years. Yeah, they've been in business a long, long time. And so Manny, but Manny has built the systems and the culture, and like, how do we handle when employees are disgruntled or when someone's not being nice? Or like there was a situation, even yeah, I think I'm referencing a story that he's referencing of a client of his in the past. But like, how do you handle the conversation of like one of your servers has a body odor issue? And every time they walk up to a table, the table like loses their appetite and wants to walk out of the door. Like, how do you have that conversation with dignity? It's tough. It's tough.

SPEAKER_04 35:07

But but I mean, there should be.

SPEAKER_02 35:08

But it needs to happen. And then I'll cut, I'll it has to happen. I'll segue to the end of the story. The woman actually had a medical condition, and she was so grateful that someone brought to her attention that her BO had gotten out of check, and then she was just able to like step up and like flip a switch and put, you know, do more.

SPEAKER_04 35:26

It wasn't a hygiene issue. No, it was okay.

SPEAKER_02 35:27

Well, no, it was just a medical issue.

SPEAKER_04 35:29

So yeah, that makes it that does make it.

SPEAKER_02 35:30

So like, you know, so like we're we're going into these conversations with assumptions, and you know, so so that's part of the work we do too. Like, you know, we call it, you know, most people would call it like conflict management or you know, conflict resolution. I like to call it conflict choreography because in reality, there's two people in a dance and you're going back and forth and you don't want to step on each other's toes. You're doing everything you can to make the person in front of you actually look and be and become the best version of themselves so that you navigate and make it to the end of the dance together. The two of you are happy, and everyone in the circle of your audience, whether that's your workplace or your family or whatever, everyone is happy with the performance. Yeah, it's not a war. You know, we call it conflict resolution. It's like, no, it's not, it's not a war, it's not one person winning and losing. Like there's a win in it for everyone. Sure. So cool. Yeah.

unknown 36:22

All right.

SPEAKER_02 36:23

We jumped a little all over the place, but I like it.

SPEAKER_06 36:25

Yeah, we did. But we're gonna can we do another episode later?

SPEAKER_02 36:30

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_06 36:30

Later to win.

SPEAKER_02 36:31

Hell yeah, brother.

SPEAKER_06 36:32

Later, a few months. Yeah, a few weeks.

SPEAKER_02 36:36

Yeah.

unknown 36:37

Yeah.

Bingo Invite Plugs And Wrap

SPEAKER_06 36:38

Because we get into it. We we went so goddamn far. Well, she's going to bingo.

SPEAKER_02 36:45

Y'all wanna come to bingo?

unknown 36:47

No.

SPEAKER_02 36:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 36:50

Trevor Mike. Come to Bingo.

SPEAKER_02 36:52

It's every Tuesday.

SPEAKER_06 36:53

Get you some kava. You can't get kava now after drinking bee chippies. Nope, nope, nope. That would be unfortunate.

SPEAKER_02 36:59

You could get uh you could get a kombucha, a soda, a coffee, seltzer.

SPEAKER_06 37:03

Kombucha, is that from in it? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:06

Yeah. But it's but not I mean technically some kombuchas do have alcohol, but the ones they serve are just like general, good for your tummy biopsy.

SPEAKER_04 37:13

I mean, even the best kombuchas were only ever like half percent. Yeah. The the GT, whatever that can be.

SPEAKER_02 37:18

I don't even know if it would register like a relief reaction in you.

SPEAKER_04 37:21

But you used to have to be 21 to buy kombucha.

SPEAKER_02 37:24

Oh, I didn't know.

SPEAKER_04 37:25

Years ago, yeah, yeah. Years ago. Years ago, you'd go into Whole Foods or whatever, and they would card you for certain certain kombucha brands that that had higher traces of alcohol.

SPEAKER_02 37:34

You used to be 18 to buy alcohol, and then that's my mom was 18, and then they changed the law, and then she had to wait another three years. She was pissed. She was pissed.

SPEAKER_04 37:44

But, brother, she was pissed. She was pissed. That's how it goes sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 37:49

But no, I mean, thanks for having me. I mean, like Do you want to do you want to leave it too? It's too late to call.

SPEAKER_04 37:57

Do you want to leave them with anything on where people can find you? Where people can find me. What do you mean it's too late to call?

SPEAKER_02 38:02

It's fucking eight o'clock. If I call my parents right now, I don't think. Oh my dog just jumped under the table. Come on. Oh, that's gonna leave me hard. Nothing you need to plug or uh uh so uh my our website is my myripplecoach.com. You can add me on Facebook, Caitlin Healy.

SPEAKER_04 38:21

Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_02 38:22

Yeah, you know, I'm I'm reasonable. You can find me on LinkedIn.

SPEAKER_04 38:25

So can your friends tell people your your Facebook then?

SPEAKER_02 38:27

And sounds like you just friend, but you know, send me a message. Hey, I know this person.

SPEAKER_06 38:38

Go to go to fucking T Mobile.

SPEAKER_02 38:41

Come see me at the Cava Bar. I'm there like five nights a week, six nights a week. Like you'll see you'll see the chocolate lab. You'll know it's me. That's the giveaway. There you go.

SPEAKER_04 38:48

You got any shout-outs to round it out? No shout outs to the ramble on now.

SPEAKER_02 38:52

I think this was a good shout out Da Vinci's for this cool space to record.

SPEAKER_04 38:56

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yep. They help us out. They help us out a lot.

SPEAKER_01 39:00

Yeah. Thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_06 39:01

Dan's a super nice guy, man. Yeah, he's a cool dude.

unknown 39:04

Yep.

SPEAKER_06 39:05

You seen his house lately, Gibby? You seen his house outside? No, I haven't walked by out of it. That shit's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 39:12

You're awesome. He had somebody. What's his address?

unknown 39:15

I don't fucking know.

SPEAKER_04 39:16

You want a stall number? Go to C Mobile. Yeah, go to T Mobile. But I called him earlier. He was like, Save my number. He was like, save my number. Vic never tells him when you guys are coming by. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 39:26

But I tell him every week.

SPEAKER_04 39:28

His house is looking better though.

SPEAKER_06 39:29

That's cool. His house looks fucking phenomenal. It's gray and black trim. Sweet, man. And they've been painting this house for fucking weeks.

SPEAKER_05 39:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 39:40

The guy's putting like three or four coats on.

SPEAKER_04 39:42

Yeah.

unknown 39:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 39:43

It's fucking awesome.

SPEAKER_04 39:45

All right. Well, if you know how many shows, then.

SPEAKER_06 39:47

Shout out to Dan Reed.

SPEAKER_04 39:49

Okay, there it is. There it is.

SPEAKER_06 39:50

City Councilman. I guess everybody knows where to find you. MyRipple Coach.

SPEAKER_01 39:54

MyRipplecoach.com.

SPEAKER_06 39:55

Org.

SPEAKER_01 39:56

C-O-M.

SPEAKER_06 39:57

City Councilman. I don't know when we got a mic.

unknown 40:01

Yep.

SPEAKER_06 40:01

I don't know when we got a mic.

SPEAKER_01 40:04

Bro, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 40:04

Oh. We don't use HD.

SPEAKER_01 40:06

If you just put myRipplecoach.com in the engine bar.

SPEAKER_06 40:09

I don't know a lot of councilmen or women in the land. But I know Dan. That motherfucker's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 40:17

I know the mayor. He's a nice guy.

SPEAKER_06 40:19

You know the mayor? He's a rotary. Uh Cloud. Clown. Cleveland. Yeah, we gotta get him on.

SPEAKER_04 40:24

Yeah, we've been talking about that for for We've been talking about getting him on.

SPEAKER_02 40:27

He's he's incredibly busy. Like he gave a press. I was in a leadership program uh about a year ago and he came and spoke to the group.

SPEAKER_06 40:36

His ass ain't that busy.

SPEAKER_02 40:38

No, dude.

SPEAKER_06 40:39

He got he got an hour.

SPEAKER_02 40:42

I mean, probably. But you might have to book it like pretty far. He can find an hour.

SPEAKER_06 40:47

If he don't come and talk to us, we'll talk about his ass. Yeah, we ain't gonna vote for him.

SPEAKER_04 40:50

Yeah, we're gonna start talking about him.

SPEAKER_06 40:52

We'll start talking about him.

SPEAKER_04 40:54

Yes. How to bring that out.

SPEAKER_06 40:59

That's his favorite. Anyway. All right, Cloudman.

SPEAKER_04 41:02

But no, it's been great.

SPEAKER_06 41:04

You've been you've been warned. Now you're calling out Cloudman, huh? You've been warned, sir. Great. Fantastic.

SPEAKER_02 41:09

I got his number. You want it?

SPEAKER_06 41:13

Yeah, don't tell him you gave it to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just let it let it be organic.

SPEAKER_01 41:18

Thanks, gentlemen.

SPEAKER_06 41:19

Alright. I guess that's it. Yep.

SPEAKER_05 41:21

Vic. See ya. Thank you.