For the Love of Facts
For the Love of Facts is a podcast where two therapists, Dr. Zamzam Dini and Dr. Kadija Mussa, unpack the truths behind love, relationships, and healing. In a world full of noise and myths, we bring culturally grounded, evidence-based conversations that center faith, connection, and care. No fluff—just facts.
For the Love of Facts
Why We Need Relationship Science—Not Clickbait
Ever noticed how the loudest voices in relationship discussions are rarely the most knowledgeable? We certainly have. That's why we created this podcast – a sanctuary of evidence and empathy in a landscape dominated by hot takes and headline-chasing content.
As two therapists with over 20 years of combined experience, we're bringing something different to conversations about love, attachment, family, and healing. When everyone claims to have "done their research," we're here to ask the important questions: What research? How was it validated? Where's the nuance? Drawing from our backgrounds in couples therapy, family science, and clinical practice, we offer perspectives grounded in both scholarly rigor and real-world complexity.
What makes relationships so fascinating is that they exist at the intersection of multiple domains – science, culture, therapy, religion, and lived experience. They're not just about logic; they involve emotion, vulnerability, identity, and history. Each week, we'll explore this beautiful complexity, breaking down myths, responding to trends, and offering context when viral moments sweep across social media. Sometimes we'll challenge prevailing narratives, other times we'll validate what you might already sense is true. Always, we'll bring facts with heart – because relationships are sacred and facts are freeing.
This isn't a one-way conversation. We want to hear your questions, dilemmas, and "what would you do" moments. Send them our way, and we'll weave them into future episodes as we build a community of thoughtful, curious people who believe in the power of nuanced dialogue. Subscribe now and join us for real talk, rooted in facts, with plenty of room for feelings.
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Welcome to For the Love of Facts, the podcast where truth meets tenderness and where we untangle relationship myths with evidence, empathy and lived experience. We're your hosts, Dr Zimzim Dini and Dr Khadija Moussa, two therapists, two women of faith, two friends and, like you, we've had enough of sensational headlines and toxic hot takes.
Speaker 2:Enough of sensational headlines and toxic hot takes In a world that's polarized and loud. We're here to offer something rare grounded, honest conversations about love, attachment, family and healing.
Speaker 1:Each week, we unpack real issues, from commitment and conflict to culture and connection, drawing from science, spirituality and stories that matter, because relationships are sacred and facts they're freeing.
Speaker 2:This is For the Love of Facts, let's get into it.
Speaker 1:Here we go. Welcome everyone to the very first episode of.
Speaker 2:For the Love of Facts, I'm Dr Khadija Moussa and I'm Dr Zimzim Dini. We're so glad that you're here with us today. We've been talking about this podcast for a long time and I'm glad we're actually getting started.
Speaker 1:And finally, honestly, it all started with conversations and I think we need to have this conversation, especially around relationships, gender roles, masculinity, femininity, and you name it. It feels like the Internet is at war.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, I feel everyone it has access to um each other. But also that also means they have access to things that are not accurate, that are not fully vetted right, like where's the research, where's the nuance? And like this idea that you know people have when they say, oh, I've done my research, what does that mean? What? What research have you done? And like, how have you checked for validity? Right, for sound arguments, how are you actually doing your research?
Speaker 1:That is so true. I think about, like, where are the people who actually study this for a living right? Like where are the scholars and are they in the space and engaging with the discourse that's happening online? Um so, and I also think you and I are the perfect people to be doing this because, combined, we have I don't know over like 20 years of experience doing therapy with and research, um so yeah and right, like that's actually why we wanted to create this space.
Speaker 2:We we wanted to not talk at people but like really slow down the conversation, bring in what we know from our work and family. Science. We wanted to offer facts but also hearts. Right, because we want to talk about the cross section of science but culture, therapy, religion, human experience, which is beautifully complex and complicated and can't always be recreated in a sterile research environment.
Speaker 1:That is true. I really love that, because we know relationships are not just about logic and they're about, like you said, emotion, vulnerability, identity and history. So that's why we're doing this together.
Speaker 2:I'm going to give you a shout out. So Khadija is a recent graduate from the University of Minnesota, with her PhD in family social science. She's trained as a couples therapist, a family therapist. She's an amazing researcher, writer, a beautiful mother and a genuinely amazing person. I really love just like your intentionality in the work that you do and I love your like, no nonsense approach of like you tell it how it is and a lot of people shy away from that. And when you have the facts, when you have the knowledge, the loudest people in the room should be the most knowledgeable right, not the most quote unquote passionate.
Speaker 1:Thank you, zam. That was amazing For those of you listening. Dr Zam Zamdini is a force, a scholar, educator and advocate and I think you bring so much heart to this conversation, of course, not just as a scholar, but as an immigrant and also doing research on relationships and communities that matter to you, and also doing healing work. I mean, sam is an amazing, not just a therapist but also a supervisor doing, you know, therapy and then supervising trainees in therapy and systemic worldview, and I think you are just an amazing person and I am happy to be doing this with you.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm so excited. Thank you for that. And so you know, in this first episode we really wanted to talk about, like, what this podcast is going to be, about who we are, what are our qualifications, um, talking about things like conflicts, boundaries, parenting, also breaking down relationship myths and how culture and faith intersect with all of that you can respond to trends too, sometimes, right, those viral moments on tiktok and youtube that everyone's talking about, and what does the research say about those things?
Speaker 1:And what do our clients say? And what do we see in our practice as we work with families, and I think that's something we will bring to those moments to shed light and explain or even just bring context.
Speaker 2:And, like we said before, we don't want to just talk at you, so we want to hear from you too. This is a conversation. Send us your questions, your dilemmas, your what would you do? Moments, and we'll weave them into future episodes.
Speaker 1:So that's the vibe real talk, rooted in facts, with room for feelings.
Speaker 2:Love that. Thank you for joining us.
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