For the Love of Facts
For the Love of Facts is a podcast where two therapists, Dr. Zamzam Dini and Dr. Kadija Mussa, unpack the truths behind love, relationships, and healing. In a world full of noise and myths, we bring culturally grounded, evidence-based conversations that center faith, connection, and care. No fluff—just facts.
For the Love of Facts
So You’re Not My Dad, But You Took My iPad
Forget the “instant family” fantasy. We dig into how blended and step families actually form, why genuine trust takes years, and what parents can do to lower stress while building real connection. From loyalty binds to the pressure to use mom or dad titles, we explore the emotional landscape kids face and the slow, respectful steps that help everyone find their place.
We talk about the new partner’s role with clear guardrails: don’t jump into old conflicts between exes, respect existing parenting agreements, and use careful language around children. We get practical about leadership at home—who sets rules, how to align discipline, and why step parents should earn influence before enforcing consequences. We also address hard truths about physical discipline, escalation risks, and the protective power of a no‑hitting policy.
Culture and community expectations can add shame and confusion, so we share ways to name the stigma, keep transparency at home, and involve kids in age‑appropriate choices—from nicknames to which rituals stay or change. We close by reframing the strengths of blended families: a wider support network, new traditions, and a chance to rebuild with intention. If you’re navigating a step family or supporting someone who is, this conversation offers steady guidance, realistic timelines, and simple tools for calmer days and warmer bonds.
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Imagine being thirteen, moving into a new house, and suddenly having to call someone else's mom, mom. For millions of families today, that's not fiction, it's daily life. Step families are now one of the fastest growing family structures in America, yet they're still one of the least understood. Welcome to our podcast, and today we will talk about blended and step families.
SPEAKER_01:I can only imagine being a 13-year-old. I definitely won't call somebody my mom, though. Right. So I think that that is really a nice start of us thinking about how people are sold the myth of instant family. Right. And I think that's what you see in the media, in movies, of this fantasy of like bonus parent. When thinking about blended families, it actually takes years to blend a family properly.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And people want that, like, you know, bonus parent, bonus child, like that whole blending to take months when, like you said, it takes years.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And you may never call somebody that's not your true parent, like mom or dad, right? That's okay too.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Yeah. And research shows that like it actually takes about two to seven years to adjust to a new family structure, right? Parents figuring out schedules. Are you know, is the biological parent still in the in their lives? Like, what does parenting time look like? And so there's a lot of moving parts that happen when you know you begin a new life with somebody who has children from a previous relationship.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I mean, you don't want to push the family to act too early, like a family, right? Um, because I'm sure that definitely backfires, and I've seen it happen before where I've witnessed uh blended families who on the surface look like they're super blended, but then there is resentment, there is anger, and there are fights happening. So it's really better to take your time and build that family structure.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, there's a huge thing about loyalty, right? Where it's like, am I, you know, are the children, do they feel like they're betraying their biological parent by either accepting or loving the new step parent? Right. There's just a lot that children have to navigate, and unfortunately, a lot of that is uh adult relationships, right? And children just kind of being the byproduct of that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And you know, the one thing that is so interesting to talk about, and I'm not sure I haven't done too much digging into the literature, is that males with children versus females with children, having you know, children early in life or women can potentially seriously derail later committed relationships, you know, forming those partnerships just because you have to bring in kids into a relationship, and when you do feeling torn between your children and the new partner, right? That that's also normal, and also like depending on how is that partner coming into this relationship? Are they coming understanding? Okay, I'm gonna take this slow, I'm gonna build this relationship versus I'm I'm going to assert my dominance, right? Like I might not be your father, but I pay the bills. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mentality, like you have to respect me, you have to do this. So I think what you've that what comes into the relationship and what people bring into the relationship makes a huge difference.
SPEAKER_00:Just as you know, it it took time for these people to come together to want to get married, right? Want to learn about each other and grow up with each other. Like, why does why do we kind of assume that children should just accept the stranger who is now a part of their lives like overnight?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and I mean, and I think I as a parent would I don't know, be okay with a little bit of caution, right? Because I think you were dating the person, you were getting to know them, and you took your time deciding to get married. Um then there's no reason why the children should be rushed through that process of getting to know you. Right? Just because I know them, it's like, oh trust me, you love so and so. And I'm like, no, clearly I don't.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. So what about like what about the other biological parent? What about like co-parenting with an ex?
SPEAKER_01:I mean, I think co-parenting is gonna look one way when it's just you and your ex-partner, yes, versus now you bring in someone else into uh that relationship. So, I mean, first thing is first, you have to have a respectful co-parenting relationship, which means you know, lower stress for everyone. Yeah, you need to have boundaries, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Just because you are, you know, like the new parent in town, right? The new sheriff in town, that doesn't mean you get involved in your now, you know, partner's uh previous relationship conflicts. Like that's not your business. There is a type of relationship there, right? Even if it's not a romantic one, it's a co-parenting one. And and that isn't kind of there's no space for this person to kind of get in get in the middle and cause more conflict.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, you know, balancing that cooperation versus intrusion, really new, I guess, new partners staying out of conflicts that predate them in the relationship. It's like uh-uh, this is has been between the two of you, and you need to handle that versus you know, being involved and being intrusive or like trying to redo the parenting time that has been agreed upon because it doesn't work for their schedule.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So I think as a new partner, you have to really be mindful of how you do the blending and really be curious in that process of finding out how things are done and really just toe the line, you know, there's no need to be really bulldozing and rushing in just you know, asking questions, finding out things.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, this kind of goes back to what you said about respect, right? Like you are you are the one joining this new family system, what whatever it looks like, and so you want to join with humility and respect. Because why would you want to go out of your way and make your partner's life more difficult?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, because I mean the ex that is still a parent to the child and they deserve a level of respect. I mean, we're not gonna go too much in depth into it, but the language that is being used around the child is very important. Um, so maintaining that love, love, respect in how you speak about you know, whatever is disclosed to you, right, between partners, like oh, my ex-partner was so and so, right?
SPEAKER_00:Not not taking that like paint and try to put the children against them or something like that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, or be like, oh, your parent wasn't so great, blah blah. If they were so great, like just staying away from hot buttons that push people, you know, and trigger them. So understand it's okay for children to feel conflicted in the early days.
SPEAKER_00:And we want to acknowledge that, like, you know, step parents don't always just come from divorce, right? People can lose their partners, right? Like to illnesses, sickness. And so there's another layer of grief that's there that you know, it doesn't matter how long the parent has been passed, like has passed away, if there's now a new person in the parent's life, like that children can feel some type of type of type of way, and kind of acknowledging that grief and loss too, and really trying to join with them in a way that is you know respectful and considerate of the context.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But also don't forget about the couple, right? Don't like, you know, children are there and right, the the step couple relationship also has to remain secure in order to navigate all of these new transitions, whether it's you know, chill different family structure, new children, new ages that you've never parented, like all of these things are very stressful to the family system. And if you don't have that secure base, that strong connection with your with your new partner, right? That could that could kind of unfortunately destabilize. And we know in research that once you get a divorce, it's easier to get a second and a third. And so it's it's I guess it becomes less scary, right? And so you're like, I've done it before, but there's a lot at stake in in terms of like you know, trying to maintain that that healthy functioning.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, I just think about the all the different dynamics that step parents and blended families need to navigate, right?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:They have to build their own rituals, um, and then they need to figure out leadership in the household, right? Yeah, and I think that's like the biggest struggle is to figure out okay, who who does the child answer to? Right. And then and you need to align your discipline, uh, yeah, philosophies, and how you do discipline in the household. Because you know, I mean, in the back of your mind, so think about it. No matter how rough my husband is on our kids, it's our kids. You know what I mean? At the end of the day, they are his children versus if somebody else comes in and they discipline my kids, right? Like my kids, yeah, we have a problem. We have a problem, like several seats, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're being rough out here, and I don't know why. So, like you have to think about those things, very important, yeah. Like super important.
SPEAKER_00:You can't just walk in week three and start disciplining children that are not yours, right? And it's like, but also I think unfortunately, like in the research, and I don't want to get too much into this, but the highest indicator of child abuse is is there a step parent in the home? Yeah, right. And so people are more likely to not treat children well that they are in constant interaction with when they are not biologically related to them, unfortunately.
SPEAKER_01:And also, Sam, thanks for bringing that up is that when parents engage in physical discipline, say, like there's uh, you know, some people for whom it's the norm to do that, you know, us like Africans, we can slap our kids once and twice, you know, but the global majority, the global majority. It also predisposes you to abuse when you lose control, when you're super triggered. So if you get used to it, like if that like hitting is your thing, you can find yourself doing abusive things, not because you're a bad parent, but because you have desensitized yourself to physical discipline itself. So it's just it's in your toolbox, so like you're just doing more of it, right? Yeah, at this time you are that's your default setting. That's your default setting, and also when you're triggered, you're emotionally not in control anymore. People in control that are not in control cannot discipline, yeah. Right. That's why if you are a type of parent that used to insult your kids and just say whatever you want to them, when you are triggered and you're no you're no longer you know regulated emotionally, then your speech goes into the abusive speech, right? And the same way, if you physically discipline your kids, very likely you would end up moving into that physical abuse, no discipline realm. Um, so I would say, like, as if I mean any of our listeners or people find themselves in a blended family thing, one of the roles or like the family agreement they need to have is the step parent should never ever touch a stepchild, period, physically, right?
SPEAKER_00:Like, and I think honestly, the step parent shouldn't be the driver of the discipline, right? They can support the biological parent.
SPEAKER_01:I think they can discipline Zam. Like, if we say in our family, like discipline is, oh, I'm gonna take away your iPad, he'll take away their iPad when I'm not there, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Right?
SPEAKER_01:Like, what is happening to them?
SPEAKER_00:Nothing after we've developed the relationship, like yeah.
SPEAKER_01:If we've developed it and we've said, like, okay, if they do X, Y, and Z, like you're an adult, you don't need to call me. Yeah, you bring home, right? And you're in charge when you're at home. You want to take their iPad, take their iPad. No TV, sure, no TV, but as long as nobody's touching nobody, yeah, yeah, like we're cool, but then these discussions need to happen early on, yes, right.
SPEAKER_00:And you need to have are you are you both even aligned in how you discipline your your children? And discipline is different for a four-year-old versus a 17-year-old.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I'm saying if I feel like giving my kids uh SWAT, I definitely would. But if I'm ever in a blended situation, yeah, no, like no one else is gonna touch them because again, you can go into that realm of being uncontrolled and feeling disrespected and whatnot.
SPEAKER_00:So and like we said, like you know, early on when I said, like, you know, after relationship is established, we want to make sure that step parents are able to earn their influence, right? Earn that parental role. And so early on in the beginning of the relationship, usually the biological parent kind of retains that primary discipline, but then as the relationship develops and you know, both parents are kind of settled in, then the step parent can obviously discipline and parent the children as well.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, you're correct. And I think just like you said, trying to assert your authority too early is I think a common mistake.
SPEAKER_00:You don't just walk in there and be like, hey, I am the captain now.
SPEAKER_01:There is a new captain.
SPEAKER_00:We saw we saw how that movie ended.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, exactly. No, no, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So what about like a culture and like and other kind of how other cultures view like blended families?
SPEAKER_01:I mean, uh there is a stigma, right, around just even being divorced and then the remarriage, and the kids can internalize that, right? And be ashamed of their family structure. So really, parents need to have transparency in talking about those things, and then thinking about okay, how do they navigate community judgment and how are they going to re-establish themselves as a family? So, really, that has to be like a discussion had amongst themselves, worked on, and just recognizing something is a problem, I think, is the first step in dealing with it. You know, if you are in that sort of community and say, like, hey, this is how our community sees this. So that's one way of just naming it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And then what about children's adjustment? Because obviously blended families means there are children involved.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And so what are things to consider?
SPEAKER_01:Um, I mean, consistent routines, right? Having predictable schedules or even being emotionally transparent. Those things really matter. And I don't know why people don't include children into some of those discussions that need to be had. Or even asking children, like, what would be okay with your new step parent or bonus parent doing? Like, what would be okay with you? Right. Can we say this? You know, just try to get ahead of those things. Again, I think most of your discipline, you know, parents do it when they're angry, but it happens when you're not, it happens when everything is calm. Yeah, you're always parenting, regardless of whether parenting, you gotta talk about things, um, and you don't want to force closeness, right? And try to make people like each other, or like you know, force them into like, oh, he's gonna come to your game.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, or like this is your new brother, you gotta take him everywhere with you.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, no, he's not my brother. I just met him. Like, no, um, so really respect each other's autonomy. Yeah, if there are things, rituals that you used to do with your other parent, they'll still still remain, right? You can find something new to do together, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Right, start new traditions, you know, find ways to kind of engage in closeness, whether that's family game night or you know, like an outing once a week, but know that time is your friend in this scenario, where you want to kind of give people time to process, right? Name the grief for the old family structure, the way things used to be. Name the grief for what we thought it would be, and acknowledge that this is a change for everybody, and that even the parents are learning how to navigate this. And everything doesn't have to be sunshine and rainbows. Like it's okay, right? Acknowledging these emotions and these difficulties hopefully will help people come together and not turn away from each other when they need each other the most.
SPEAKER_01:Yep. Yeah, those things are really important that you said. Well, thinking about you know, blended families, what are some strengths, Sam?
SPEAKER_00:You know, you get to have a broader family network, you have more people in your family, you may have different traditions and rituals that you never thought you would be doing, right? There's there's more people at the table, and I think the fact that both families are experiencing the same type of transition can deepen that empathy. Like everybody knows what it's like, they know that this is a difficult transition, and that way, right, people can come together and kind of join as a team and work on situation together. And sometimes, you know, like especially with times of maybe trauma, like creating stepping away from a harmful family system and creating a new life for yourself is a source of resilience, right? It's a way that you can rebuild your life and reimagine what it's like to be a family and start over with other people, right? We we're not saying blended families are all negative, it can be a really beautiful experience that can change people's lives for for a long for a long time.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I mean you said it. It's just I think everything needs to be built intentionally. We keep saying this, and I think we will keep saying it forever. Yeah, is that you need to be mindful in how you do things. Um things just don't happen haphazardly, right? Um thinking about you know, step families that early fantasy, how do you build together, how do you find a solution, and just manage your expectations and yeah, then yeah, be realistic about it.
SPEAKER_00:Like the idea is great, but right, there may be some friction between your new partner and your children, and so how do you navigate that with equity and empathy and consideration? And you're not just default believing the adult because they're the adult, because you never know, right? And so, how are you navigating this and and considering every single person that's in your family system? Yeah, because they are all impacted.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's true. Thank you.
SPEAKER_00:Beautiful. Awesome. Thank you for joining us, and we look forward to see you in another episode.
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