Ep. 17 - A "Just Us" Episode

This week on The Pickup Meeting, Brody and Kevin ditch the guest list and settle into a classic Just Us episode. Think less polished panel, more honest phone call between two friends who’ve seen a few semesters, a few campuses, and more than a few questionable comfort foods.

The conversation wanders joyfully through first-week-of-college memories, accidental class enrollment disasters, legendary professors, Super Bowl predictions that may or may not age well, and the real work behind student success and retention, and what no one tells you about becoming an administrator. 

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Transcript

Kevin Thomas  
And away we go. Hey, it's The Pickup Meeting. You found us. How wonderful. We're so glad you're here for a just us episode with your co host, Kevin Thomas Brody Broshears, just having a good time with you today. How you doing?

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
I'm doing great. You know, the one thing I like about the just us episodes is I feel like we can do a relatively mediocre job without much preparation, because it does really mimic our phone conversations, right, like, so, I mean, I guess I'm not setting the bar real high for today's so, but I feel like it is a more natural version of The Pickup Meeting.

Kevin Thomas  
Yeah, it probably is. And, you know, from the standpoint of when we have a guest on. Thus far, we've known our guests. And either you've known really well, we've both known them, I've known them, you know, in some way, shape or form, and we want them to do well, right? And so there's a level of nerves that come in with like, do we have the right questions prepared? Do we have things ready? Are they in a good place today? Are they ready and listen like being on the mic and being on the screen is not always an easy thing. And so in this case, we don't have to worry about the energy of the guests, which is usually all of our guests have really picked us up and made us look prettier, which thank you.

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
For the record, our guests have all been amazing, and we've not been amazing every time.

Kevin Thomas  
We've been younger, yeah, several times. So yeah. So here we are, another episode of The Pickup Meeting. 

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
And we're gonna do our best.

Kevin Thomas  
That's right. I was thinking about this the other day because it's just one of those things where you think about your college experience, as, you know, I have a 16 year old that's looking at colleges a little bit, not a ton. You know, you've had your girls that have gone to college, but I was thinking about those first experiences of college. And like, do you have like, a memory of, like, the first couple weeks of college? I know you're gonna have to reflect back quite a bit here. But do you have like, any like, memories of, like, those first weeks of class? Like, maybe it was learning what a syllabus was, maybe it was finding where you went, like, anything that stands out from those that time frame?

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
This is going to be unpopular. I mean, I did really well as an undergraduate. Like, I didn't have the kind of classroom struggles that some of our students do have. And I went to kind of a college prep parochial school, and I just, I remember the first couple weeks going, so, this is it? Like, this is this is what I'm going to have to do. Like, I think I can do this. And I was a first generation college student, so, I mean, I was nervous, no question. But after I went to my first couple of classes, like, I was like, Okay, this is all right. I mean, my intro to psych class had like 450 people in it, so that was a little surprising, right? That's a lot, and I do remember that, like I was going to a conference every, every class period, Tuesday and Thursday, from 4 to 5:15. And I do remember, I do remember also, like the days were so spread out, like you were just so used to being scheduled and having all this free time? 

Kevin Thomas  
And at that point you discovered that naps are a part of college. I did, yeah, amen, absolutely, when you're a baby, when you get near death, and when you're in college.

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
What about yours? 

Kevin Thomas  
So there's a couple things that stand out to me. And like, one of them is funny, and one of them is really something I tried to embrace first day of class, and you have a schedule, and I remember having the schedule and looking at it and going to where all the first year classes were at Murray for life of me. I think it was faculty Hall. I think that's right, and I know I'm supposed to get to a history 119 course, and it's like a world civ course, and I that's where I just got to get to. And for the life of me, I couldn't find my schedule in the backpack. I couldn't find where I was going. I couldn't find was doing. Oh, and so I found a history of course. And so I go to the history course, and it's first one, and I walk in a little bit late. They've already done attendance, and I just sit there and I'm in the history course the whole time. Next session, same thing. I go back to the class. I'm good. Don't ever think a whole lot of it. And about November of that first semester, finally, the professor comes up. He goes, I don't think you're in this course. And oh no, he goes, Yeah, I don't have you on my rock. And it turns out that I did not go to the right history course, like I went to a different section of the course. So I was in the right course, just different section. And so I got switched over, and all the things worked out. But yeah, I was not enrolled in that course, doing all the assignments, doing all the things. You know, it was probably before there was a Blackboard to put grades in. So there's just a grade book, and he wrote my name in, and Terry Streeter had me right there. You know, it's just what it was. But, yeah, no clue. And that just stands out to me. I don't know why, but it does. And then the other one was a journalism class that was taught by a guy that's beloved in Murray community, Doc McGahee. And he would do this way of teaching where he, like he was talking about journalism and the foundations of media and all these things. And he had this teaching style that he would give us a good 10 to 12 minutes of content, and then he would give us a three and a half to four minute story that he referred to as a commercial break, he said, because our minds are so built into the TV mindset that you need your commercials. And so then he would tell some story. And I'm going to tell you that if you've ever been to a class where you cried and laughed so hard like, it's memorable for all those reasons. And so for whatever reason, Doc McGahee, he's class where you just crying, because the stories he tells are so absurd and but but real and just wonderful. Like, those two things stand out to me from that, that first few weeks, that first semester of college.

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
Yeah, I was thinking about majoring in business. I think I came in exploratory, but I didn't take a business course. My first semester, I took business Calc, right, which wasn't going to help you decide whether you wanted to be a business major or not. Was just going to be a test of whether you could do calculus. But I had a Intro to American politics with Marjorie Hershey, and she was fantastic, life changing, and just really brought American politics to life. That's what I ended up majoring in. I remember going to my advisor my first semester, and kind of, he was like an absent minded professor. He had crazy hair. He rode his bike around campus. And I'm like, Oh, I got to meet with this guy. He was in the residence hall I was living in, and and I I told him, I said, you know, I don't really know anything about business. And he asked some of the simplest questions, like, well, what's, what's your favorite class? And I'm like, well, that Intro to American politics class is baller, right? Like, it's great. And he's like, he's like, take more of that. And I'm like, Okay. And that just led to me just diving into politics and political science, kind of full bore, I think about the faculty members, like I had George Jergens, who was this renowned history professor. And like, this is the 80s, in the early 90s, like we he had these book quizzes that were 10% of your grade. This is one of the things I remember. And one of the books that we had to read was The powers that be. This was a precedence in the press. Course, 10% of your grade, 1000 page book, 1000 pages. And he said, if you read the book, you're going to get 100% on the quiz. If you don't read the book, you're not going to get any percent on the quiz. And I'm like, This is awesome. It's something. So remember when students, if you're listening right, when you talk about having too much reading.

Kevin Thomas  
Yeah, this is Patti Griffin students that she assigns us to, yeah.

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
And so the other thing I was thinking about, like, boy, if you were really forward thinking, I mean, when I was in school, they used to put your social security numbers and your grades up, right? Like, the after every test on the on the wall, like, just took a couple pictures of those social security numbers, you you'd be good to go.

Kevin Thomas  
So in this episode of turning to crime.

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
Can you imagine? Can you imagine doing that now? Like, everybody would walk up and look at that's all I'm saying, right? Like, that's how silly it was.

Kevin Thomas  
You're an IU grad, so that's a different experience too. Yeah, and I don't know the age range here that we're gonna get. So the only other, and I know there are a lot of IU grads, but Mark Cuban's an IU grad. Did you guys go at similar times? Or are you older than Mark Cuban? 

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
I think he graduated 84 you know, Joe Buck is also an IU grad. He was there when I was there. I think he graduated in 91 but you didn't hang out with Joe Buck. I did meet Joe Buck, but not when I was at IU Yeah. 

Kevin Thomas  
Well, speaking of stories that have gone on forever, let's transition to January. Why is this month so long?

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
So long, every so cold and so miserable.

Kevin Thomas  
And so gray, and you take down the Christmas stuff, and there's not a lot of exciting things going on. 

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
I hate the cold so much. I can't believe that I endured the cold my entire my first job, I moved to Northern Iowa.

Kevin Thomas  
You know, there are jobs that are south of you.

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
I know everybody tells me, but the seasons, I'm like, I really just want to swear at the season. Matt Markin, the other day, when we were talking doing some prep, he's like, Well, How cold is it now? Like, How cold is cold, you know? And he's out in California. Our producer is out in California, kind of living it up in the 60s and 70s every day. And I told him how cold it was. He's like, Oh, yeah, that's really cold. He said it's cold in California, if it's 40 or 50. I'm like, That's shorts weather in the Midwest.

Kevin Thomas  
No, today, you know, it's pretty chilly here. And was walking through campus and saw a faculty member walking with his wife, and he had shorts on. And I'm like, only here and it's 40 or 50. Are you going to do that? Because everywhere else it's you're going to be bundled up. Yes, yeah. But as we get to the end of January, we also get into this season of the year that is the playoffs in the Super Bowl. And, yeah, yeah. And so this is a episode that's releasing when it is and end of January, and Brody and I do not have any idea who will actually be in the playoffs, and so I'm curious, Brody, roughly 3540 days ahead of the Super Bowl, who will be in the Super Bowl? Who's your write this down prediction, who will be in the Super Bowl, and then who will win it?

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
Yeah, I have bad news in the NFC, because you're going to hate both of my picks in the NFC, one, I only pick one team in the NFC like so I think either the Seahawks or the rams are going that that NFC West division is really, really good, and the Seahawks have your old quarterback from the Vikings, kind of leading the charge. And the Rams right used to be the st Louis Rams, and you despise them with every part of your being. I think so. In the NFC I'd say I'm going with one of those two teams. All right, pick one. I'm gonna go Seahawks because I think that's less offensive to you.

Kevin Thomas  
Like this was real close here to my response needing to be edited so it's, it was, yeah, all right, so Seahawks versus...

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
In the AFC, God, if it's the Patriots, I'm gonna give up. But who's beating them, if they're playing at home, who's beating the Patriots?

Kevin Thomas  
All right, so you're going patriots and Seahawks and who will win?

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
The Patriots are no, the Seahawks are gonna win. I'm gonna take the Seahawks.

Kevin Thomas  
And what are you going? In a completely different direction. I'm going with the Buffalo Bills. Oh, I know that's just as digestive for you. God, eat that up. The Buffalo Bills winning the Super Bowl over the Green Bay Packers?

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
Yeah, I don't mind the Green Bay Packers. I mean, they're, they're the real America's team, in my opinion, right? They're owned by the fans.

Kevin Thomas  
I hate the Packers, but that's just because NFC North, that's the NFC North. That's you're not.

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
You hate the bills because it's the dolphin. It's recent hatred, though. You just started liking the Vikings. I mean, come on.

Kevin Thomas  
No pack, no. That's what I said. No pack, no. All right, so moving a little further forward. Listen, we work in retention and student success, and in a lot of our works there and and so I'm just curious, you know, are there things that over the last couple years have stood out as, like, what are those effective student success offices, and what are they doing really well that makes the work transformational and not just checklist?

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
Boy, that's a hard question. Can I? I want to start with just a very general thought. I think one. I think oftentimes we, we, we view these strategies as kind of silver bullets. And I don't think there, there's any silver bullet. I what I would say, generally, often and in all the spaces where I've been, I think we have to just collectively care more like in that's my initial response, is when I think about it, and I'm not suggesting that as an entity, higher ed doesn't care about student success. But I I think institutionally, I think institutionally, we fall into the trap of each of us is doing our job as well as we can do, and then that is good enough. But I think oftentimes it's about collectively caring more about what that looks like. I know. On our campus, and the last couple of campuses where I've been, we've done a lot more phone calls with students to just follow up and ask how we can be helpful to them to get registered. I feel like that. That's a real simple strategy, but a helpful one, right? Emails don't automatically do it. I think we do a lot like in in my old space, where we had a First Year Experience course that was required for every student, I felt like as a strategy, based on the fact that we created that course just 10 years ago, I think as a strategy that was really helpful, right, to provide a a uniform experience for every new student, with the goal of that course, really helping new students transition to the institution really, really mattered. And then I think there's a couple other things, like, we are not like, I think we forget about the end too, right? And so we're doing some of those strategies even at the 90, 100, 120 hours stage right. How can we help you graduate? Like those kinds of nudges at the end also matter, right? I'm blown away at how often we let students who get really, really close to graduating leave our institutions without a degree. And so I think any of those strategies that are focused in on helping students get to the finish line is are equally important.

Kevin Thomas  
Yeah, the last part of what you're talking about there, you know, our metric side of things, we look at graduation rates truly like our graduation rate here at UCA, growing how it has over the last five, six years, I think is a lot of registrar's office in some advising, yeah, because of what you talk about is in those checks of 75, 90, 105 hours to ensure that they're there and somebody communicating to them about the students, what's what's going on, what's happening, and the faculty members to ensure that the advisors know that there's issues all the things like, we've grown, our return, our graduation rate, and I think it's because of those efforts. But the to start where you were at, you know, I think the offices that do this, well, have what you talked about, because systematically, people think they can figure out the answer for retention, and so they build systems. And that's not to say systems are bad. I don't believe that systems are bad.

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
We need good systems. There's no doubt about that, right? Like, let's be perfectly honest.

Kevin Thomas  
But if you build those systems without heart and care and purpose, then you're doing it wrong. And it gets down to some of the things that you're talking about. Gosh, there was a person that I worked for along this journey that's been my career where she would talk to my boss and say, well, like all Kevin's doing is making phone calls, and it's like, nope, nope. All Kevin's doing is showing care, yes, right? Because somehow, in the race of sending out emails that hit the same message for everybody, calling somebody, sending an email or a text in a non traditional time to get back a response that you don't get whenever it's eight to five every day when we send a bulk of our emails, you know, it's those things that building in things it's not rocket science to look and see how you do you retain students. Well, go look at what private, small private schools do. Go look at people that show those intentional efforts with folks that build the relationships that connect with students in personal ways, and not just in regulated emails and text ways like that, makes a massive difference.

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
Makes a massive difference. And look, we talk about systems. I go, I do these program reviews for Nakata quite a bit. And one of the things that I kind of came to me one day, and maybe I haven't created this, maybe this, these aren't my words. I'm not saying I created the internet like Al Gore or anything like this. But I remember, at one of my program reviews, working with a person who was just fantastic and was kind of carrying the water at their respective institution, but so much so, right? Like a singular person, and it can't be a singular person, we need personalities. I mean, personalities can transform culture, no question about that, but systems maintain them, right? So this kind of speaks to the combination of collective care and then building systems that allow that work to happen seamlessly, or create clarity as to who's responsible, who's going to make these things happen, right? We, we were pretty successful at my previous institution at getting departments to kind of buy into the whole graduation piece, right? So department chairs started to play a role in that, right? They were tracking. They were helping us track students that got to 105 hours and to 90 hours. And making sure that that students got across the finish line, and it didn't matter whether the chair was had just this great personality, it only mattered that they were involved in the work, right? And so when you create those systems, it really makes a difference, I think too.

Kevin Thomas  
Yeah, and this is a shameless plug, for sure, but I also think, as we approach, I think we're like two weeks away from the Administrators Institute. It is why our role as faculty are so I don't know, inspirational, powerful fills our cup, whatever you want to use for that, but getting to work with administrators throughout the country and sometimes the globe, and have conversations about systems and care and effort as administrators. We've had a number of guests that have been on the talk about the admin or that have been a part of the administrators Institute. But I will tell you, from a standpoint of those that attend, they speak highly of it because of these type of conversations, because it's building these things that are impact retention and student success. And it's an advising conference, it is, but you know, our role as administrators often now is really built in retention, advising, student success.

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
Yeah, it's all encompassing. There's no question about that, right? And it does speak to the challenges of the 21st Century academic advisor. I don't think there's any question about that. It's more complex work than ever. And the lines between being a social worker and academic advisor, I know you and I have talked about this a little bit kind of off line is, you know, there is a blurred line, right? We can't we're not big C counselors. We're not automatically social workers, but that kind of work is popping up in the work of an academic advisor more and more in this time, right? In 2026 there's no doubt about that. And though, you, we took some notes before this episode, and you, one of the things you have written here is things no one told you about being an administrator. I love that. And you know, as I talk to my leaders in my space, the one thing I think is really important is no one really told me that you need to really understand the work, right? And I think the people that report to you need to believe that you understand the work. It's one thing to kind of have the vision and lead and inspire. It's another thing to really understand the work. And I've always tried to pride myself on making sure that the people that work for me and with me on a daily basis know that I understand what they do and know that what they do matters, right? And so I don't think I automatically knew that. I mean, I had great supervisors, so maybe I learned that pretty early on in my career, is i, i The people that have been my mentors. They, they, they cared about what I was doing. They knew that what I was doing mattered and was important, and they understood what I was doing. And I think that's maybe if administrators don't get told that, I think it's an early lesson that you have to be able to bring that to the table, because people are going to respect you if they know what you're doing, and if they care about you as a human and then they're interested in in the work that you are trying to accomplish. 

Kevin Thomas  
I think back often to when I was at Western Kentucky University. A lot of what I did was training and development for advisors throughout campus. And so stealing from the team at Missouri State and Kathy Davis and her crew that did the master advisor certificate program, they did some great things. Kind of built one that was really for faculty only at Western Kentucky, and all these folks had been advising students for years, and we brought them in and had conversations and multiple weeks of a semester and just connecting on advising topics. But one of the things that always blew my mind is a question we would ask, which is, how did you learn to be an advisor? And the things ranged all over the place, from I don't have any clue what I'm doing and I'm just figuring it out to well, the person that advised me as a student is how I am guided into this, and I'm doing my best to just navigate the curriculum and hope the students figure it out like it was a really non existent effort of training at that point. And so, like, teaching faculty in an actual way was really powerful. And I think about that on the flip side for administrators that we often say, Well, you know, how did you learn to be administrator? And you touched on some of it. You hit it with, you know, people that you watched, people that you viewed. But I would also say this is in this is hard sometimes, you know, depending on resource allocation and ability, I'm a better administrator today because of professional development opportunities that were out there, yes, with NACADA, or whether it was other associations and interacting with people. That taught me in different ways. And so, like, it's one of those things I wish I would have known as an administrator that I wasn't going to have all the answers and wasn't expected to, because I think there were layers that I was like, Okay, I'm going to get to that point. And I was a pretty one of these things that stand out to me is, like, the ability to say, I don't know, isn't always the easiest thing, but it might be the strongest thing you need to do in a situation. Because as an administrator, you don't always know the answer. It's fine to say, I don't know, but you're going to find out, or I don't know, but we're going to figure out the answer together. But that's hard to say when you're new. That's hard to say when you're growing into the position. And I wish somebody would just said it's okay to say it.

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
And like advisors, right conceptual, information or relational you think about the core competencies, those same kinds of those same kinds of categories exist for administrators, too, when you think about it, right? I mean, at the end of the day, we have to give ourselves grace, right? Because good administrators don't become good. You're not good right away, like it takes time to kind of, I've learned an awful lot from bad administrators to develop the skills needed, right? And so I think about that a lot too. We have to give ourselves some grace. If you're a new administrator sitting out there trying to figure out you know the world and bring your best version of yourself to to campus, just remember, it takes time to get good at this, but it is a skill. There's no just like, advising is a skill, right? I mean, I think conceptually, you have to understand what your role is as the administrator. You know, where do I fall organizationally? Who are the people that can help me get things done? And then the information is the stuff you're going to get quizzed on that you just have to know, like the job, right? Understanding the people that are working with you, the work that's getting done. It's the relational piece, I think, is the hardest. And it's usually the piece that I think, whether you're an advisor or an administrator, that we all think we're really good at, and I think it's the place where we have the most, most space to grow, right, in my opinion, right? Like interacting with a student, being a real listener, right? Making sure that you're showing that that care and really matters a lot, and maybe you're good at it naturally. But I think it's a skill that can certainly be developed, whether you're an advisor or an administrator.

Kevin Thomas  
Absolutely. Well, you know, speaking of needing to give ourselves grace, I think it's time to talk about our top three lists today, which is the top three comfort foods of all time. Oh, my God, I know you. I knew you were gonna love this topic. I love this category. All right. Do you have a you have three? You want me to go? You? You go first because, because I didn't, I didn't put my stuff in an advance. Maybe it'll be a surprise. Maybe it won't. I mean, if you look at me, it's probably not a surprise. All right, so I'm gonna go in and just completely switch up what is on our prep document. I decided to change it up. You better not be stealing any of mine. All right. First of all, listen, I love some Mexican food, right? Like, it doesn't matter what it's called in what town you give me some chicken cheese and rice, I'm in heaven. Let's go right, like it is delicious. So Mexican food is for sure comfort on my end, chicken wings, man. Like, I love chicken wings. Gosh, dang. Like that has become, like, just, I want it for anything that's a celebratory thing, like Super Bowl coming up, gonna have it, but probably gonna have it multiple times, because chicken wings are delicious. They are delicious. And then the last one does get into a seasonal time frame. And we all know when this hits, when you go to the grocery store, and I know you love going to the grocery store, but when you go to the grocery store and you see those Christmas tree cakes that are out, oh, Sign me up, man. Christmas tree cakes are top notch, and I could eat them all.

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
You mean, like The Little Debbie cakes?

Kevin Thomas  
Hells, yes, let's go like it is heaven on earth. Man, like, wrap that up and give that to me as a gift. Christmas tree cakes are the real deal.

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
You mentioned Mexican food and so, like, comfort food matters. But like, I always think, like comfort food slash guilty pleasure. I'm not afraid to admit this, I think Taco Bell is amazing. It is amazing. Hold on. It's the greatest comfort. Like, it's amazing.

Kevin Thomas  
Hold on. I got it. This episode of the pickup meeting is brought to you by Taco Bell. Did you eat a taco I don't know. Go to the bathroom, turn around and look. What are you doing?

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
You're not a Taco Bell guy. You said you could eat as long as they had rice, chicken and cheese.

Kevin Thomas  
Yeah, but I don't think any of that stuff, I can't say that they could sue us. I don't think any of that stuff is chicken, cheese and rice. What are we doing?

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
Well, I'm gonna be on the next Taco Bell commercial. Michael, you're going to get sued by Taco Bell. So...

Kevin Thomas  
You're gonna be Chihuahua on the next Taco Bell commercial. Little Brody saying yokiro Taco Bell.

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
So my three all have kind of childhood elements to them. Okay? But, man, I love baloney. I love bologna. Like, there's nothing like a fried bologna sandwich.

Kevin Thomas  
I knew that. And like, even in knowing that you were going to say that, like, I got a little sick in my mouth there, like, what is wrong with you?

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
Such a good German Catholic food. And in Evansville, like, now, when you go to like the Fall Festival, which is the second largest walking festival in the country, after Mardi Gras, it happens in Evansville every first full week in October, there's, there's fried bologna everywhere, right? Because we're a German Catholic town, but the best fried bologna is when it's thinly sliced. I now I have to eat a thick slice, and so it loses a little bit of the flavor. But you cut them in the little you cut the little things, and then the it bubbles up and oh my god, if you cook it at home, my mom used to make it for me. Love it.

Kevin Thomas  
This was my sister's thing baloney all through life. I just think it's disgusting. So, all right, what's number two?

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
Those hostess fruit pies, man. Golly, growing up, when I got those in my lunch sack, like, with my bologna sandwich and some chips, it was like the perfect kid lunch. Like, and all the flavors were good. Like, it didn't matter, apple, cherry, blueberry, lemon, peach.

Kevin Thomas  
Do you still do this now and like, how are your feelings on it?

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
No, I cannot eat those anymore. They're like, 8000 calories. They're worse than donuts.

Kevin Thomas  
They're probably the same thing. Maybe stuff that they say is fruit.

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
But I loved those growing up, and they are definitely and I'll see them from time to time in the store, and I'll just think all the good old days.

Kevin Thomas  
I feel like, in the last five years, I've had one of those, like I got one, and I don't remember why, but I also the reason I remember this is the feeling I had afterwards where I thought I was gonna die, you know, like, it was just like, it sits in you and that sugar hits you well.

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
And the third thing, I was gonna say hot dog, but we'll just put hot dog with Baloney, right? Like, like, because you never know what's in it. Yeah, right. So my third thing, like, I love cereal, man, cereal is great, and we need to. We need to maybe spend some more time in this like the best cereals we can't.

Kevin Thomas  
We don't have time for that today, no, but that's a future list for sure. That's a future list for sure.

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
But I love cereal. I'm a big milk guy, and I love cereal, any kind of cereal.

Kevin Thomas  
We could do food topics all day long. Here on the pickup meeting, we got it's time to go.

Michael "Brody" Broshears  
It's time to go. So Alright, folks, yeah, think about food before the next show. Your favorite cereals. We'd love to hear them. Put them in the comment section if you're on YouTube, but that's it for this edition of the pickup meeting. We hope your own meetings for more pickup style are as meaningful and as fun as this one, until next time do good and be nice. Just be nice. Be nice, folks.