PART I: THANK YOU KEHLANI (Ft. Kayla Taylor)

WELCOME BACK  KULTURE KREW. We know you've been waiting for that Iceman review. Come kick it with us as we talk about the three albums that dropped from the boy himself, plus a review of BROWN. Tune in next week for the rest of our topics! 

Transcript

SPEAKER_08 0:03

I don't like honey but I don't like it.

SPEAKER_14 0:22

I thought it recorded already. Oh shit, okay. Got the timer on this shit? Of course. Okay.

SPEAKER_07 0:35

We are back.

SPEAKER_14 0:36

Oh my god. Welcome back to the Culture Drop Podcast, motherfuckers.

SPEAKER_07 0:41

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_14 0:42

Yes, sir. That's it, nigga. Damn. I thought you was gonna help me out.

SPEAKER_07 0:47

I was about to introduce her.

SPEAKER_14 0:48

Oh, my fault, my fault, my fault. I'm rude as hell. Yeah, I don't introduce people. I forgot.

SPEAKER_07 0:53

Yeah, we usually wait till the very end and be like, uh, but yes, we have someone.

SPEAKER_08 0:57

What's up, guys? My name is Kayla. I'm from the well, I have my own podcast where I used to listen to me speak podcasts. So I'm happy to be here with y'all.

SPEAKER_14 1:04

Oh my god. First of all, you're the first New Yorker we have in this fucking day.

SPEAKER_08 1:08

Let's go, of course. I'm the best New Yorker you know. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_07 1:12

A lot of New Yorkers will fight you against that. I don't care. Brooklyn all day, baby.

SPEAKER_08 1:15

Let's go.

SPEAKER_14 1:18

She said best star, do a die, nigga.

SPEAKER_07 1:21

Facts. Oh man.

SPEAKER_14 1:24

What's good, Boogie?

SPEAKER_07 1:25

You tell me what's up?

SPEAKER_14 1:26

I'm just here, bro.

SPEAKER_08 1:30

Come on, man.

SPEAKER_14 1:31

I just got my shit together.

SPEAKER_08 1:32

Y'all gonna address the elephant in the room? Come on.

SPEAKER_14 1:35

Oh my god. Wait, wait a minute. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_07 1:38

And is that the song you're gonna cue up? That's crazy.

SPEAKER_14 1:42

You gonna tell me no? I mean you're gonna tell me really?

SPEAKER_07 1:46

It's safe.

SPEAKER_14 1:46

You the god.

SPEAKER_07 1:48

You the god on that song, bro. No, that song is that song is cracked.

SPEAKER_14 1:53

Look, I'm not gonna say shit. I'ma just fucking play it. Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back, welcome back, welcome back.

SPEAKER_07 2:05

We back. Take this ride with us. Let's go.

SPEAKER_00 2:27

It's so silly in me to act like I don't need you back. When uh all I can think about is that since I see you last. I know I didn't have to walk away.

SPEAKER_14 2:43

You wanna think you take lumine?

SPEAKER_00 2:46

You the best. I'm telling you. When I told you to fuck back, so can you for the repos? Can we posted the ready for the sun?

SPEAKER_08 3:36

Someone get them on the reading.

SPEAKER_02 4:14

She says they missed the whole trade. If they don't get it, we can play ready. I'm like why I gotta be out there. That it's true. Listen to you, expressing all them feelings. So proper rappers, all these niggas sound like all my team. I guess it's really just me, myself and all my meal. You know that they ain't even got it like that. You gon' pipe me up and make me catch a body like that. Cause I live for this, it isn't just a hobby like that. When they get my shit and play it, I ain't even gotta say it. When I pull up on a nigger, tell that nigga baby. I'm too good with the words, watch a nigga bad track. If I die, all I know is I'm a motherfuckin' legend. It's too late for my city. I'm the youngest nigga rappin'. Oh my god, oh my god, if I die, I'm a legend, I'm a current I'm on close, got a gusty front of sci. Used to be nigga, used to dancing and testin' notchy, cleanin' the house every day. I was struggling to learn when the lights apply on my way. Money taught me span is making it on the left. Way up no other pack than undercards. Don't know who we are to fuck them all. They only press them niggas. Do you not start? Right on. I'm on right my wrongs. They can't let it snoff. You don't know where you're gonna go. You got the nigga mapped out strong when I forgot. I'm a rookie in the vet. Shout out to the bitches that holdin' down the set. All up in my phone, up in the pictures from the city. She gon' see some shit that she don't wanna see. She ain't ready for it. If I ain't the greatest, then I'm headed for it. Yeah, that mean I'm way up. Let's get to it.

SPEAKER_14 6:36

We really get into the shit.

SPEAKER_02 6:40

I what?

SPEAKER_08 6:42

It's the one.

SPEAKER_02 6:46

Manich on the beach, a bang. Uh all of my ops stay dead.

SPEAKER_08 6:50

Stay dead.

SPEAKER_02 6:50

Why do they gas me up? Uh-huh. Where does it go? My head. How much I got? A lot.

SPEAKER_06 6:56

A lot.

SPEAKER_02 6:56

Don't leave again. I won't out. Thinking to try me, do like rice and put that nigga. Don't can I forgive? I can't. What do I need? Some head. Shorty keep asking the date. She tryna finesse polymarket for bread. Where's the beef? It's cooked.

SPEAKER_14 7:12

We gotta look.

SPEAKER_02 7:15

Don't even recognize none of these things at the top of the charts. I look, am I upset? A bit. Last one you dropped, was shit. I didn't press play on that hoe. Miss, meh, miss, skip, skip. Cap, cap, cap, cap.

SPEAKER_04 7:28

Should I take a trip? Should I take it? What album was he talking about?

SPEAKER_02 7:38

I was in a loop like a carabina. Yeah. And shot to all the sweet things from Willamina. Who tell me at the white party? Drake, I love the album, man. Well, I mean a cottage. And like dips that they really mean it. Yeah. I need compliments, cuz. Lately it's just falling out to disagreements. Industry is really evil. And I face the way they pay me, but if you like people like a play a strip for a million people now, let's just describe it's just like people. Measuring eight size in millimeters.

SPEAKER_14 8:14

One last one lots.

SPEAKER_02 8:20

But I realize it's gotta get a little deeper. Let's go. Just resurrected me. Let's go teach me, baby.

SPEAKER_15 8:35

Call my phone and say it, me, baby. I'm so free, you gotta teach me, baby. From the cool you a peace, baby. And my shit came with the eat seats, baby. Swear my label, gotta free me, baby. Blow on me just like some green tea, baby.

SPEAKER_07 9:03

And that's how you do it.

SPEAKER_14 9:05

Yes, sir, yes, sir. God damn.

SPEAKER_07 9:12

I like that. That was white applause. Oh my god, bro.

SPEAKER_14 9:16

You lucky I even gave you all of that drink, bro.

SPEAKER_07 9:20

Hey, pause.

SPEAKER_01 9:21

You know. It was a mood setter. That was that was good. It was cool.

SPEAKER_08 9:27

It was cool to kind of browse through a couple of snippets to like remind me of like some of the vibe. Because it's been a couple of days since I looked, the whole album run.

SPEAKER_14 9:35

Okay, listen, this nigga's been sucking lately.

SPEAKER_08 9:40

You said it.

SPEAKER_14 9:41

I just miss shuffling.

SPEAKER_08 9:42

That's a good shuffle. Yo, I think it takes me a cool little minute before I can start hitting shuffle, especially on Iceman, because I'll give him credit for this though. This is like one of the more cohesive sounding albums from him in a minute. So I feel like certain shuffling some of the songs. I'm not ready to do that yet because I I feel like I have to soak some stuff in.

SPEAKER_14 10:03

Look, look at this nigga. Alrighty.

SPEAKER_08 10:05

What happened?

SPEAKER_14 10:14

Oh, I think that was I think that was this, bro. My fault. No, that was an AC. Oh.

SPEAKER_07 10:20

Come on, bro. Record it, man. I already knew that shit was dick.

SPEAKER_14 10:23

Oh my god, bro. You know what? Audience, I'm not gonna hold y'all. I don't even want the fucking board today, yo. Take the fucking board, nigga.

SPEAKER_07 10:30

You did good.

SPEAKER_14 10:31

Talk the fucking boy, nigga.

SPEAKER_07 10:32

He don't mean it.

SPEAKER_13 10:34

He don't mean it.

SPEAKER_07 10:35

I didn't know he knew that many Drake songs. I was like, oh true.

SPEAKER_08 10:39

Cause I think I think I'm a happy medium between the two of you. Like, I was a Drake fan for a long time. Like I'm talking Degrassi days, Aubrey. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_14 10:48

That's when he got shot.

SPEAKER_08 10:49

Right, when he was wheelchair Jimmy. I was rocking with Drake when I used to get clowned for it, you know, because it used to not be super cool to be a Drake fan back then in a different way than it's probably not cool to be one now, I guess. But so a lot of my critique from him just comes from like just a disappointed fan sometimes, you know, like someone I feel like I've been rocking with him a long time and just expect like a like a higher quality of music from him because I know he's capable deep down, you know?

SPEAKER_14 11:16

Never did I think that I was gonna start my podcast off with a fucking Drake song.

SPEAKER_01 11:20

What the fuck you thought the song was? And he was grooving too. Like I'm just saying, he's a fraud. He was grooving. You're a fraud.

SPEAKER_07 11:32

You're a victim. Oh, we're back on bullshit.

SPEAKER_14 11:39

Oh nah, I'm here, bro. I'm here, I promise.

SPEAKER_07 11:42

That first episode was kind of like putting the trainer wheels on popping bitches off.

SPEAKER_14 11:49

No, I feel confident today. I ain't gonna hold you.

SPEAKER_07 11:51

You got Kayla in the building, it's over.

SPEAKER_08 11:53

I'm in the building. I can't wait. It's been a while since I've been behind the mics, I'm ready to start cooking. What about y'all?

SPEAKER_14 11:59

I'm still on the fact that we started with Drake, but I mean, I said we can get to the topics.

SPEAKER_07 12:03

You wanted to go play.

SPEAKER_14 12:06

Because, bruh, I already know this shit is about to take an hour, bro. I know Drake himself is about to take an hour. Because not only did he drop Iceman, but then he decided to drop three fucking albums.

SPEAKER_08 12:15

Like which was insane. Felt like a hard drive drop to me. Just here, like here, here y'all go.

SPEAKER_07 12:23

It's been two years, here y'all go. Get me off the fucking label, man.

SPEAKER_08 12:26

Right, literally. And there's no been there's hasn't been any confirmation of that yet, right? That that he's been that he's officially off. It's just been chatter online, right?

SPEAKER_14 12:33

Yeah, but I mean, to be honest, for a while he was trying to get Albus deal. Like, I think ever since Certified, yeah, we've been trying to get Alba's deal.

SPEAKER_07 12:40

So yeah, agree.

SPEAKER_08 12:53

Right. Yeah, I think so. I think too, like, I've said this before. I think that like Scorpion for him was like a gift and a curse. Because Scorpion had like so many important Drake records on there, so many hits, yeah, and broke all these crazy numbers, but like that was the tail end of the last decade, and music doesn't really sell in the dream that way anymore. And I feel like certified lover boy was him trying to find his footing after that, because that was like a tall order to follow. I feel like he's been chasing that high for a while and just can't quite capture it again, if that makes sense, you know.

SPEAKER_07 13:26

I think I think now I think he realized that and then just re-revitalized everything now because the content he dropped for this was crazy. Like I don't know if y'all tune into the stream. Well, he didn't tune in.

SPEAKER_14 13:39

So I didn't tune into the yeah, I said fuck the stream because that was gonna be too much for me, but I did go through all the music videos at least. Oh my god, yo, this nigga's already starting, bro.

SPEAKER_08 13:51

Yo, I hit I hit Donnie up and I was like, yo, he's dropping like three albums. And he was like, no. Like, I had to keep telling him, I said, he said, where you hear that from? I said, My nigga, I'm serious. Like, he and he announced it himself at the end, and I'm like giving him the names of like the songs, and then I don't know if he went on IG to confirm it himself. He's like, This nigga dropped three albums. I'm like, that's what I said. Like he's not playing around, he's trying to get out that deal.

SPEAKER_14 14:15

I'm gonna be honest with you. That was a rough night for me. That was that was that was a rough night for me. I'm gonna be honest. Because, yo, I was just listening to Euphoria earlier that day, bro. And then all of a sudden, I'm just like, when I found out, like, yeah, she hit me up and told me, but like when I actually looked at it and found out, I saw him place all three of the hard jobs. I'm like, God damn it.

SPEAKER_08 14:39

Because that's a lot for us to unpack. That I felt bad for a lot of like the journalists that had to like review all of those albums at a clip. You can't really sit with all three like that.

SPEAKER_07 14:47

No, I I kind of got mad at the streamers who went through all that and was like, this is all mid, but it's 1230. I'm like, bro, yo, I'm gonna be honest with y'all.

SPEAKER_14 14:55

Y'all stream, like, I'm not gonna have this whole episode of me defending Drake. I got pros and I got cons. Drake. I got nah nah, hear me out. I got pros and I got cons between all three of the projects. However, y'all little niggas behind y'all fucking computers and all that shit, nigga. Y'all niggas don't even listen to music like that.

SPEAKER_09 15:17

We talk about it.

SPEAKER_14 15:17

Come on, nigga. Y'all niggas don't even listen to fucking music. If y'all niggas listen to music, y'all listen to lyrics, y'all listen to instrumentation, facts. Y'all listen to all that shit.

SPEAKER_08 15:26

Facts. All of that has to be considered in an album.

SPEAKER_14 15:28

And y'all niggas did that shit in five minutes?

SPEAKER_08 15:30

No way. My boy, cooking right. That's crazy. That's true.

SPEAKER_14 15:34

Nah, nah, nah. It's not even to defend Drake. I just hate when little niggas do that shit.

SPEAKER_07 15:37

No, that's true.

SPEAKER_08 15:38

That's fair. Cause you can't really, like, you could listen to an album and like no off rip that you probably don't like it. But if you're gonna like constructively break down an album, you gotta really sit with it.

SPEAKER_13 15:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 15:48

Love it or hate it, you really have to sit with it. You the album can't come out at midnight and then at 1 a.m. you're like, hate it, or you know, it's garbage or whatever.

SPEAKER_14 15:55

Like, yo, for all y'all little computer streaming little niggas, you know how many times I heard this album? I heard this album eight times before I said anything about it.

SPEAKER_11 16:04

Damn my boy.

SPEAKER_08 16:05

You can't talk to him.

SPEAKER_14 16:07

Yo, let's be honest. How many times did you hit me up and it was just like, yo, what do you think? And I was like, I'll told you on pod day. Nah, you did.

SPEAKER_07 16:13

Like, yo, no funny shit randomly. I think a couple days later, he gave me like a list of songs. He was like, I fuck with all these songs. I was like, you heard it?

SPEAKER_01 16:22

You really listened?

SPEAKER_07 16:25

And then gave me some constructive criticism on it after he was like, Here's a stack of songs, here's what I think of everything, but I got more. I'm like, oh but wait, there's more. Wait, there's more.

SPEAKER_14 16:35

But before we even start talking about anything else, there's two things I do want to say. Okay. Janice shut the fuck up. This is a fucking hit.

SPEAKER_07 16:42

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 16:43

Like, I know niggas didn't want to admit it, but I'm telling you, like, as soon as I turned it on, I was like, Yeah, this is it.

SPEAKER_08 16:50

I'm gonna be honest, on the ride here, like I I liked parts of the song, but I wasn't fully sold, which I can say for a lot of the songs on this album, I like parts. That beat switch is killing me though. It's killing me, Aubrey. That beat switch is too much. But when we were in the car and he let it ride, I'm like, it sounds different in the car. Like I get I'm starting to hear some of the appeal. I think by the end of the week, I might be on board with Janice, shut the fuck up.

SPEAKER_07 17:15

So the thing is too. First of all, Timbaland said that shit was a hit. Like the morning after.

SPEAKER_14 17:20

Yo, the crazy part is I didn't even see it, I didn't even see that video until like three days later. Me too. I was dead ass like, yo, like there's something sonically pleasing. Not even pleasing, it's odd.

SPEAKER_08 17:31

You know what it is? For me, it's the sample placement. It feels out of place. Yeah. Almost. Like it's like a random outlier that doesn't belong there. I think that was what I was struggling with with the song at first. I'm like, why am I hearing Janice shut the fuck up? Like randomly in my right ear. Like, why am I hearing that? Hey, like, okay, like why am I hearing that, you know?

SPEAKER_07 17:52

I um I think I feel like it's hard to explain. I feel like wait, there's certain songs he makes where your brain just doesn't register at first. And I feel like that's where a lot of streamers went wrong because they did like a first listen was like, oh my brain's not commuting with this, I can't, but you gotta like a lot of his album.

SPEAKER_14 18:15

Yeah, a lot of his album does it.

SPEAKER_07 18:17

But you gotta you gotta just register. I feel like with certain artists, you gotta like program your brain to get through it and then adjust like, okay, this is the sound, but let me go in knowing that this is what it is instead of what you expect it to be, and it doesn't meet the criteria or anything like that.

SPEAKER_08 18:33

I think that that's also like something that he can be at fault for because I think he has trained, at least his more intense fans, um, to look for the hit because he's been the hitman for like nearly 15 years, if not 15 years. So I think a lot of them have been trained. Oh, he's the numbers guy. So like Drake like is falling victim to his own standards on his high. And so I think when you search for an album expecting a hit, like that's the wrong way to go into an album. You should be looking into an album to enjoy it, not what's gonna run this summer. And I feel like Janice Shut the Fuck Up might go the way of Nokia, where it eventually is a slow build, which I feel like is a better way to have a hit. You don't want something that burns quick, that hits you, and then burns quick, and then it's out of here and out of your mind in like a week. You want something that builds up gradually, and I think Janice Shut the Fuck Up might be that, and I think shebang has a has a chance of being that.

SPEAKER_14 19:27

Because even though the lyrics are kind of stupid, if it wasn't for the lyrics, I'll be fucking with that song more because I'll fuck with the beat.

SPEAKER_08 19:33

A lot of people, like since everybody goes, Oh, I gotta hear it outside, I gotta hear it outside. I think a lot of people in the club won't care about what he's saying.

SPEAKER_07 19:41

That's what it comes down to sometimes. Like, all right, this is not at home, it's gonna slap.

SPEAKER_08 19:46

Yeah. Which again, like, there's pros and cons with making songs for outside appeal. I think you should just make a good song that sounds good altogether. But I think sometimes when you have a good beat like shebang and you have like a fun flow, like he has a fun little bouncy flow, that if you're in the club a couple of shots deep, like let's be real, if we're in the club, we're not paying attention to like facts deeper lyrics, we're just getting lit. So I feel like shebang is that moment to like go up in the club, I think. Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 20:14

Oh, trust me, I know it is, but before we even go on to my second point, yeah. Just like that, bro.

SPEAKER_02 20:58

I swear I could cry when I see your face. I wait too in love, just to let you up away. I know it's your dream to start a family in LA. They love me too much, yeah. I can't help you. I just can't move away. I can't leave my brothers in the church. Just gotta lead the way. I cannot relocate. Just even the thought to turn my back on them is not okay. I cannot be okay. We just gotta post up here. I promise things will be okay.

SPEAKER_06 21:31

Cause I love you back. But they love me too much. Yeah, I cannot.

SPEAKER_02 21:37

Yeah. Yeah. I push you niggas through the ring. Yeah. You get embodied by a single nigga. I'm with nowhere like I'm Chris Kringle. Yo, baby mama ain't even post a single damn. Where she at? Yeah, where she at Yo baby mama. Ain't even post a single. Uh I'm off a quad made my body tingle.

SPEAKER_14 22:05

ASAP, smack this nigga, bro.

SPEAKER_08 22:07

Where she at?

SPEAKER_14 22:08

Smack this nigga.

SPEAKER_08 22:09

Alex is still concerned with Rihanna, man. Let it go. Yeah, send shots to him. Like, Rhea ain't been thinking about this nigga. Like, these three kids keep with ASAP, nigga. Let it go. Nigga, let it go. He's living the life Drake wants. It's like he won.

SPEAKER_14 22:29

He won. ASAP was talking shit first. He was.

SPEAKER_08 22:32

I'm not saying that he don't deserve shots, but like you got this obsession with Ree. You gotta let go, nigga. Let that hurt go.

SPEAKER_07 22:38

Nah, because he's over here looking at one baby, two babies, three babies.

SPEAKER_08 22:42

That's his issue. He gotta heal up. You know, he's talking about therapy. He need to start taking it serious.

SPEAKER_07 22:47

He can't because the therapist attracted himself. I know.

SPEAKER_08 22:49

Find an ugly nigga to go talk to you then. I don't know what you want me to say. Like, my nigga, you need to let that hurt go. They've been broken up longer than they was ever together. Like, let it you gotta let it go. Send shots at ASAP. That's deserved. Out of all the niggas he took shots at, ASAP deserves them. Even though Drake kind of sent them first, like ASAP did just recently diss him. So like I'm cool with him sending shots that way, but leave Re out of it.

SPEAKER_14 23:12

The only reason why I'm cool with it is because of the fact that ASAP, you took eight years to drop a project. You took eight years to then diss this nigga. Like he wasn't gonna say anything after you just been called a pedophile for two years.

SPEAKER_07 23:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 23:27

I'm not saying the shots aren't justified. Like I'm cool with the shots at ASAP. I think he could have shot at Ross more, too.

SPEAKER_07 23:34

That Aiden Ross bar was hard though. It was that I could have I wanted maybe like three more dishes.

SPEAKER_08 23:40

I think with the way Ross has been going at him, he he should have had more shots.

SPEAKER_07 23:44

Should have been all over the album.

SPEAKER_14 23:45

I fucking hate that Aiden Ross line.

SPEAKER_08 23:48

I'm not crazy about it.

SPEAKER_14 23:49

I know niggas love it. I know niggas been hyping it up. I'm not crazy about it either. I understand what he's saying.

SPEAKER_07 23:56

I'm like, why'd you say that?

SPEAKER_08 23:56

I thought it was kind of corny, I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_14 23:58

I understand why he did it, and I understand. There's a lot of niggas out there that will sit there and just be like, yo, y'all not understand what he's saying. No, I understand exactly what the fuck he's saying. The bar is ass.

SPEAKER_08 24:11

It is ass. And also, like, I think some of the issue I have with this album too is like some of the bars, I'm just I don't believe. I don't believe in them. And I think with like, I'm trying to think off the top of my head. The well, the one on Tribang, mid, mid, mid, skip, skip. If he's talking about G and X, nigga, you a lie.

SPEAKER_07 24:27

Yeah, I want to be a good one. You a lie.

SPEAKER_08 24:28

I want to know what if it was ASAP Rocky shit, then okay. I I got you with that. Because ASAP to me hasn't had a good album in a long time.

SPEAKER_07 24:37

His second album was my shit that at long last ASAP was.

SPEAKER_14 24:46

It was hard.

SPEAKER_08 24:47

I didn't like testing. Testing was okay.

SPEAKER_14 24:48

It was experimentative. It was one of those things that's like, look, if you like it, you do, you don't, you don't.

SPEAKER_08 24:53

Like, I feel like getting into like an alternative bag, I I don't remember much of testing. I know I didn't like what I heard.

SPEAKER_13 25:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 25:00

Um, but I feel like he's one of the ones that can kind of get away with some alternative type of stuff if he wanted to, you know. Like he's just got that that vibe to him for some reason to me.

SPEAKER_12 25:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 25:09

Um, but if he if he was talking about G and X and a good cap, and then also the Ross line, too. Like, yes, a lot of Ross's biggest songs are with Drake, but you gotta remember Drake was going that way early in his career for a reason. You were linking up with Ross earlier in your career for a reason. You wanted that look.

SPEAKER_13 25:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 25:26

And Ross gave it to you. It was a mutually beneficial relationship. So I think that's why I also I'm not fully like into the line, and I don't fuck with Aiden Ross either.

SPEAKER_07 25:35

Nah, me neither. Oh no, Aiden Ross was cool.

SPEAKER_08 25:37

Yeah, he don't he don't deserve a look. Yeah, that wasn't even deserve a look like that. And that's Drake's problem, too. Stop hanging around them fucking streamers. You're Drake. You're Aubrey Drake Graham. You are too big to be running behind these young idiots. Like, go talk to a real journalist, nigga. Stop it.

SPEAKER_14 25:55

I'm coming at everybody today, bro. I don't give a.

SPEAKER_08 25:57

I think we're on that time.

SPEAKER_07 25:59

Because that's how I be feeling.

SPEAKER_14 26:01

Speaking of coming at niggas, before we finish with the Iceman talk, can we stop doing this shit?

unknown 26:06

Crow with no.

SPEAKER_14 26:10

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

SPEAKER_07 26:15

It's gonna be the barbecue song now.

SPEAKER_01 26:19

Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_07 26:22

Yeah, yeah. I can't wait to start doing looking at it.

SPEAKER_08 26:28

Don't invite me. I'm gonna leave it in the middle of it.

SPEAKER_07 26:34

Or you just go see as the P just. Now this part right here is fucking fire. I love Honestly Nevermind. That's why I'm biased.

SPEAKER_08 26:54

I'm not crazy about Honestly Nevermind, but I think it's he did a better job with it on that one than he did on Made of Honors. Yeah, there's only about two songs I think I liked for Made of Honor.

SPEAKER_07 27:04

Okay, I gotta ask everybody, what's everyone's favorite tape?

SPEAKER_08 27:08

Iceman is a better one to me.

SPEAKER_01 27:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 27:10

It's Made of Honor, nigga.

SPEAKER_01 27:11

You hear the shit.

SPEAKER_15 27:13

Send them down. You hear the shit? I don't know what you hear.

SPEAKER_14 27:18

You gotta let him talk, man.

SPEAKER_15 27:19

Yo, grand babies.

SPEAKER_07 27:21

You're ruining my name. You're ruining emotion.

SPEAKER_09 27:24

I'm having motion, mom.

SPEAKER_07 27:25

Listen, yo, I was uh I was dropping back from Brooklyn because I got my girl from uh work event. And we listened to Iceman, and I was kind of cheatering on it. I turned it off towards the end, and I was like, let's just listen to this we park.

SPEAKER_04 27:41

And uh, put that back in the drive we are.

SPEAKER_02 28:44

You might be going toward the whole thing, you gotta make that road tech. Like that for real, too. Like y'all really gotta know where that nigga is.

SPEAKER_14 28:52

Alright, chill. Don't say we for real. Don't say we for real. Nah, you really move it. Here's the thing. That's y'all damn. Because we from Jersey.

SPEAKER_07 28:59

Like it hit a certain brain cell. I'm I shit you not. Like, once that beat dropped, I was like, nah, I gotta, I gotta go back outside. Like now me and my girl just drive around the city, just fucking in circles. I'm like, nah.

SPEAKER_08 29:11

See, I don't got a problem with house. I got a problem with Drake's thin ass vocals on it and what he's saying. Like the beat is cool on its own, especially when it drops. Like, that's cool. Um, but like, like we were talking about before, I I consider all things. It can't just be the beat for me, you know.

SPEAKER_14 29:27

So here's my thing with love, there's hate. Iceman is fucking mid, bro.

SPEAKER_08 29:33

You're not wrong.

SPEAKER_14 29:35

I will I will say, but but to answer your question from before, made of honor is my favorite project out of the three. Yeah, but if I gotta go back to Iceman, it's a high mid. I give it a seven. Yeah, I give it a seven. There's a lot of people that like they hear my seven, they be like, nah, that's a seven point five. Like, nigga, it's not that big of a difference. It's a fucking seven.

SPEAKER_07 29:59

Yo, on everything, I was really like, yo, you gotta give it a 7.5.

SPEAKER_01 30:05

He just cooked it without even knowing.

SPEAKER_14 30:10

These niggas, bro. Now, do you want me to start with my reasoning or do you want to go first?

SPEAKER_01 30:16

Nah, nah, go, man. Yeah, I'm curious to hear.

SPEAKER_14 30:18

Alright, cool. Nah, there's a few things. I don't mind the B switches all too much because he's kind of been going crazy with that ever since Sicko Mode. My main problem with Drake is that niggas have been calling you again, niggas been calling you pedophile for two years straight. It was a 20v1, we get it. Niggas is really showing their true colors about how they feel about you. Don't tell me that you don't give a fuck when it's clear that you give a fuck.

SPEAKER_07 30:51

That's facts. We all know he gives a fuck.

SPEAKER_14 30:53

Yeah, but like it was it was starting to get annoying after a while.

SPEAKER_07 30:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 30:56

Like it was kind of one of those things where it's just like the main nigga that dissed you was Kenny. Let's be honest. And there's a lot of Kenny disses, especially too hard for the radio, which whack. I wouldn't say it's whack. I wouldn't say it's whack.

SPEAKER_08 31:12

The beat's cool, everything else is whack. Which beat? I like that. Is it the second one?

SPEAKER_07 31:18

The Western one.

SPEAKER_14 31:19

The second one is the one that sounded like like Kenny was spit on it.

SPEAKER_08 31:22

Yeah, maybe maybe it's the second one. Because I'm gonna show you how to do a little boy. Like, come on, man. Oh my god. Don't act like not like us and squabble up weren't major hits. Like he's trying to little boy him, like, oh, like that was whack. Don't act like those wasn't hits and one of them wasn't a fatal hit for you, my niggas. I mean, I don't want to hear that.

SPEAKER_14 31:40

To be honest, though, like if I'm looking on both sides, like, yes, squabble up was a hit, not like us was a hit, Luther was a hit. That was kind of the point that Drake was trying to make to him during what was it, family matters or push-ups or whatever the case.

SPEAKER_07 31:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 31:55

You don't have hits. And don't get me wrong, Kendrick does have hits.

SPEAKER_08 31:59

He does, even before this beef, and niggas play like he wasn't Kendrick Lamar before.

SPEAKER_14 32:03

It's just the fact that his hits are.

SPEAKER_07 32:05

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_08 32:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 32:06

It's the same shit with they make the comparison all the time, but the same shit with Mike and Prince. Right. Like Mike has a lot more hits, sure. But there's a lot of conversations in a lot of rooms where niggas will say Prince is way better than Michael Jackson.

SPEAKER_08 32:20

I think it's a fair debate.

SPEAKER_14 32:21

Yeah, but it's it's kind of like the same concept with this one. Because it's like, yes, Kendrick has hits, Kendrick's been had hits. Even when it came to what was it, Dam? Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 32:33

Damn was hits on. So like you can't talk to Kendrick about things like that. And I agree with you. I think the whole point of Kendrick's uh intentions behind GNX is to say, when I want to be outside, when I want to do that, I can do that. I can be a pop star if I want to. That's not what I'm here for.

SPEAKER_14 32:51

Yeah, I feel like GN that was the whole point of GNX. GNX was just like, look, you said I don't have hits. I'm about to body your ass.

SPEAKER_08 32:58

Right. That's true. You know, I saw someone say, like, to your point. I saw some people say to Donnie's point of like listening to the album, like, I get it, this is his first solo album since the beef, so he's gonna talk about it.

SPEAKER_07 33:16

You got him.

SPEAKER_08 33:17

But I saw people make this point and it's true. It's like when you lose an argument real bad and then you let some time go by and you think of like better rebuttals. It's like, all right, it's like, all right, you could have said that before, but you didn't.

SPEAKER_07 33:29

It's like when somebody gets punched in the face and they're like, nah, yo, but he caught me off guard. If I would have just turned like that, bro, you got punched, it's too late, right?

SPEAKER_08 33:37

Like, right, I agree. So, what about you? Like, what are you some of your deeper feelings? Because I know you said before that like in a car you were riding with it and you didn't you didn't know how to feel about it. So, like, what were your like initial?

SPEAKER_14 33:50

Come on, come on, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad. My bad, my bad.

SPEAKER_07 33:57

Fingers slipped open, apple. Yo, get the search Kendrick Lamar. I did a um, I was uh like everyone else, I was way too overwhelmed with three albums. Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 34:11

I'm done, I'm done, I'm done, I'm done, I'm done, I'm done, I'm done. This is done. I'm done, I'm done.

SPEAKER_07 34:15

You had a good run earlier, yo. What happened? Yeah, yo, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_08 34:25

Euphoria.

SPEAKER_07 34:28

So I fucking um it was way too overwhelming.

SPEAKER_13 34:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 34:33

And I went through all of them, I think once, but after that, I just made a playlist and then I threw all of them in there, and I ended up in total with 31 songs that I actually enjoy.

SPEAKER_01 34:44

All right.

SPEAKER_07 34:45

I'm not saying they all slaps. Like literally, it was just me going back and forth and back and forth, and just being like, okay, if I like how it sounds, I'll just throw it in the playlist.

SPEAKER_08 34:53

Right. So you can go back to it and sit instead of having to like revisit all of that. That's like what, two or three hours of music? That's overwhelming.

SPEAKER_07 35:00

Overwhelming as fuck. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 35:01

I'm gonna be honest. Once people have to start playlisting you like that, I think you lost like with an album.

SPEAKER_07 35:08

I think it worked.

SPEAKER_14 35:09

I don't look at Drake as a regular artist, though. Like I look at him as a playlist artist.

SPEAKER_08 35:13

That's a problem to me.

SPEAKER_14 35:14

It is.

SPEAKER_07 35:15

But but that's what he's been doing since more life. So I kind of teeter on it. Like, there's some songs that every Drake every Drake album at least got six slaps.

SPEAKER_14 35:25

It's called brainwashing your fans.

SPEAKER_08 35:27

It is. He does that a lot. He like Nicki Minaj does that too, but that's a different conversation. That's a whole different conversation. It is, but Drake does do that, and that's what I'm saying. It it sometimes costs him though, like a hit conversation. Like he's brainwashed his fans to thinking, oh, you have to do this amount of streams, you have to have this amount of hits, you have to drop this amount of times. And when he can't meet his own demand and expectation, like that costs him in the end. And I feel like I don't know if he's starting to realize that, but it's becoming more apparent to me that he's falling under his own like uh expectations.

SPEAKER_07 35:58

Hold on now, hold on now. We hold on, wait. Here we go. Here we go. You know me. Here we go. You know me.

SPEAKER_14 36:05

The Drake body is just starting to fucking stir up.

SPEAKER_07 36:07

It's not bias, it's the numbers, y'all. I don't care about it. Nobody cares about numbers, but 460 first week for for ice.

SPEAKER_08 36:14

How is that second week gonna look though?

SPEAKER_14 36:17

Because that was the same thing with GNX. GNX didn't have that's what I think. Like G and X did kind of shitty the first week. Granted, he surprised dropped it, he did it.

SPEAKER_11 36:26

Yeah, noon. That shit fucked up.

SPEAKER_14 36:27

That was crazy.

SPEAKER_08 36:28

I'm like chilling. I'm in the bed trying to wake up, get the crust out of my eyes, and I'm seeing uh G and X.

SPEAKER_14 36:33

And I'm like, But then like the second week, GNX numbers went all the way up. So in my opinion, numbers don't really matter.

SPEAKER_08 36:40

That's true. And like it's better to keep consistency or even grow. And like even Luther alone hung in there a while. So that's that second week. Wow, that's just ripping for life. Yeah, but I mean it was like 13 or 14 weeks on like number one, like that had longevity. And uh, so yeah, those second that second week drop is gonna look mad scary, I'm telling you. So, like, I'm not moved by first week numbers.

SPEAKER_07 37:02

I don't think so with Drake, because the only reason I I fuck with Drake because like what y'all saying with the numbers, he's an anomaly. Like, there's no one else, you can't he can only compare himself to himself numbers regardless.

SPEAKER_08 37:15

Yeah, he's always gonna sell because he's Drake and his court fan base is massive, and it's gonna keep streaming.

SPEAKER_07 37:20

Like, even if the album sales go down, his stream numbers go look crazy for Spotify.

SPEAKER_08 37:25

And he's got a crazy back catalog, so he's always gonna stream well too. Like he could put Dud out after Dud, and he's always just gonna stream. Like the first week numbers are gonna look crazy on each project, even if it's not a good one. And then his back catalog, like, even when I'm not impressed with any of the new stuff, I can still enjoy the old stuff. Yeah, um, but like first week numbers, I hate that conversation. I wish that the average consumer didn't even get a look at those because I feel like it clouds real conversations about the quality of the music.

SPEAKER_07 37:50

Yeah, that's that's what I don't like now because first week numbers. You guys Donnie, we got the same thing. I fucking I'm just like him, I collect CDs and vinyls and stuff. Me too. So it's more of an art piece, and like with the journalism, I like looking into analytically how something is moving.

SPEAKER_08 38:08

That's fair.

SPEAKER_07 38:09

So now that like and I don't know if it's because of academics or some shit like that, but now he's a cancer on a lot of that stuff. Like, I don't know why you would show the main, like the public the numbers that they don't need to see that they don't need to see because they're gonna be like, Well, they only sold 60k first week, and you're like, and then looking at how the streaming, like everything is diluted now, so 60k isn't actually bad at all. Right.

SPEAKER_08 38:35

And then also like streaming, like speaking of numbers for Drake, his pure sales, like that to me is more of what matters. Who cares enough to buy your work? And his pure sales are low.

SPEAKER_14 38:44

Did he even come out with physicals yet? No, he keeps fucking.

SPEAKER_08 38:48

He's not a physicals guy, and I feel like he's really missing a market here, especially on his older catalog. Like, that's really gonna be what sells. I can't see a lot of people wanting to like maybe buy some of the newer work. Because for me, when I collect a vinyl, I have to really love an album. Yeah. Because vinyls aren't cheap.

SPEAKER_00 39:03

And the artwork.

SPEAKER_08 39:03

And the artwork and the and the albums aren't cheap. Those vinyls aren't cheap. So I have to really sit and live with an album before I get it. There are two exceptions to that rule: Beyonce and Ariana Grande. I will buy a vinyl from them before I even hear the album because they're album artists for me. Yeah, but I really believe you got like you gotta live with that. And I can't see people wanting to buy like Iceman on vinyl for some reason. I'm getting that shit off of freezing.

SPEAKER_07 39:27

I hope for you that he does physicals for that. I keep looking at it. The thing is, what he does now ever since Certified Love Boy, I don't know if he came with the re-sign, but he'll release the physical like six months after it came out.

SPEAKER_08 39:41

Yeah, I wonder what the idea behind that is, because that doesn't really help.

SPEAKER_14 39:44

I think he just wants the streaming numbers to run up because you already don't get paid a lot from streaming at the end. But like with him, those pennies are like triple. Yeah. So it's like, and now that he's dropped three albums, it's definitely gonna be triple.

SPEAKER_09 39:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 39:57

Like they keep saying, like, Drake's the first artist to get three albums on Billboard Hot 100.

SPEAKER_08 40:04

Which is a crazy stat. Oh, what, two, three.

SPEAKER_14 40:06

Billboard's bullshit, but it's cool.

SPEAKER_08 40:08

And it goes to like a bigger theme too on this album, which is botting, which I find funny because it's like for you to know how that works, it means you know what's being done for you. Every artist is getting botted, whether they know it or not, because the labels have to do that to to fluff them. So that goes into a deeper conversation. Sure, you sold 460k, but how much of that was botted? I know that him and his label are at odds, but at the end of the day, they still want to make money and make their books look nice. So, how much of that is is botted? And it goes to the other conversation I question I keep seeing online. Why doesn't he do stadium tours? He's got the numbers.

SPEAKER_07 40:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 40:44

So do this do like seats match that? Like that's what I'm curious about.

SPEAKER_14 40:49

Wait, was um it's all a blur, a stadium tour?

SPEAKER_08 40:52

Nah, it was arenas.

SPEAKER_14 40:53

Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 40:54

And why is why is like so why did someone beat you to ha to being the first rapper to sell out that stadium in Toronto? Like that's like a that to me all like bleeds together. It's like we're talking about botting, but why why doesn't he do things on that level? And I almost wonder are the streaming numbers magic.

SPEAKER_07 41:14

Like, okay, so they don't know if they don't know about these seats. I'm gonna just get the small arena.

SPEAKER_08 41:19

Yeah. Like I like almost he's too scared to see what it looks like. I think Drake from 2018 could have totally did a stadium tour.

SPEAKER_15 41:26

Easily.

SPEAKER_14 41:27

I wouldn't say that he can't do a stadium tour now. My bad audience, we fucked up again.

unknown 41:32

Yeah. Something's going on.

SPEAKER_14 41:34

I don't know, yo. This shit does not want us to pod, yo. I'm not gonna lie to you.

SPEAKER_07 41:38

I guess at a certain point, it's like, ah, cut them off. Cut their mics. Cut their mics. But um talked about botting too much. It was like, all right, shut that shit up.

SPEAKER_08 41:47

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 41:48

Back to back to the bot talk. What you were saying now, Caleb?

SPEAKER_08 41:50

Uh I was just saying, I'm I'm really I could care less about the botting because I'm of the opinion that every artist and label is botting, whether the artist is uh on board with that or not. Um, but I'm only addressing it because Drake is addressing it on Iceman. It's in his visuals, it's in some of the songs. So that was just something I thought was interesting to bring up.

SPEAKER_14 42:09

The one thing I will say, and I think this is like probably my last pro about this entire situation. He did a lot for y'all. Like a lot for his fans. He did a lot. Like that was a lot of fucking music videos, that was a lot of production.

SPEAKER_13 42:26

A lot of money, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_14 42:28

It looks like money on screen. Like it was it was fairly produced, like that was crazy. Even the fucking ice sculpture and all that shit, like all of that shit. It was he was feeding y'all for these last two weeks, three weeks.

SPEAKER_08 42:43

Yeah.

unknown 42:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 42:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 42:45

I'll give it to y'all. For now. We up. Are we going song by song?

SPEAKER_07 42:52

I mean, we can just point to the slaps.

SPEAKER_14 42:55

This nigga said, I don't really want to talk about Iceman.

SPEAKER_07 42:58

No, no, no. Because when um because we do have three albums.

SPEAKER_14 43:03

So it's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 43:05

And this ain't when cold dropped. When cold dropped, it was a double album. We just kind of went through. We actually went through a lot of it, actually. But I can't do that one here. I ain't gonna lie.

SPEAKER_08 43:14

Yeah, it's a lot of music.

SPEAKER_07 43:15

I was ready to until you dropped three. I was like, oh shit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 43:20

Yeah, that changed a lot about how I went about focusing on these new albums.

SPEAKER_07 43:25

I'm thinking probably changed the streamer's mind too, because it's probably like, I'm gonna just stay up to like 12 feet.

SPEAKER_11 43:30

What? Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 43:31

Yo, I'm not gonna lie, like even hearing all three. As I said, I heard Iceman eight times. I heard Maid of Honor maybe like nine or ten.

SPEAKER_07 43:42

Yeah, it's my shit.

SPEAKER_14 43:43

A BT, I hate that project.

SPEAKER_08 43:46

I started skipping around and I don't do that unless I really hate what I'm hearing.

SPEAKER_07 43:50

It's not, I think, okay, so what I'm realizing too, the what I hate about the whole uh the streamer perspective, bro, you done had a whole Whole day you done stayed up till 12 and now you're straining yourself to listen to Drake bro. I would probably hate that shit too.

SPEAKER_08 44:06

Right, and you're yeah, you're right. You're tired. You're not even taking anything after Iceman.

SPEAKER_07 44:12

Like the wake up overview, I would probably want to see. Because when I woke up, these songs sounded better. I didn't even finish, like I said, I didn't even finish Iceman until like the last half. There was a few songs left. I was like, nah, he's rapping too much right now. My I'm tired.

SPEAKER_09 44:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 44:26

See, I feel as though that like Habib T was just strictly for Toronto.

SPEAKER_08 44:31

It sounds unfinished to me.

SPEAKER_07 44:33

It's for the RB heads.

SPEAKER_08 44:34

If you so that's an RB head and I didn't feel catered to with that.

SPEAKER_07 44:38

Not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_08 44:39

I think too, like, if you're gonna put out an RB, I'll really do it. Because like you can't come at me with thin vocals.

SPEAKER_07 44:45

Wait, hold on, hold on, wait. Let me see. Because I'll I'll play one off of it right now.

SPEAKER_14 44:48

Wait, I'm about to play the one that I hated the most.

SPEAKER_08 44:50

Which one is this off of?

SPEAKER_14 44:52

Off of BT.

SPEAKER_08 44:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_14 44:54

Nigga, when I tell you I hate this fucking song, this Gen 5. Yeah, I fucking hate this song, nigga.

SPEAKER_08 45:01

I don't even remember it.

SPEAKER_07 45:03

This ain't my favorite.

SPEAKER_02 45:05

How many nights can we get dressed up?

SPEAKER_07 45:08

Oh shit, you're playing it from there. Hold on. Oh, tough. Okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 45:11

Back and forth over some Italian wine. By the time I'm gonna do it. Let me know when y'all ready.

SPEAKER_14 45:18

This is the song where I was like, yo. What the fuck is this? Oh, this is Slap City?

SPEAKER_07 45:25

Nah, nah, nah. That's another one. That's another one. My bad, my bad. Before we get into it, before we get into it, I got it. I couldn't even get through that Gen 5 when I was like, Oh, your finger slipped too, huh? That's crazy. What for this? This shit will be looped on the whole episode, just playing in the back. Don't play with me. This is the one yo, this. I feel like he should have made this like around nothing ones the same. Like.

SPEAKER_08 45:49

Which one is this?

SPEAKER_07 45:51

Classic.

SPEAKER_08 45:52

I think this is one of the ones I was gonna return to.

SPEAKER_14 45:56

Just like I say classic.

SPEAKER_08 45:58

I heard once. Yeah, this beats insane.

SPEAKER_05 46:02

I heard once.

SPEAKER_07 46:03

That's one of the few I have seen from like this might be my personal favorite one off this. This production is a lot of image. I'm like, why didn't you do this 10 years ago? Like this whole thing.

SPEAKER_08 46:16

I think you could have done it either 10 years or two.

SPEAKER_07 46:19

That's what I'm saying. Nothing was a thing. If you would have came, if this was like after come through, I would have like that.

SPEAKER_08 46:25

And you know what? The lyrics would have been better if he could still be pen.

SPEAKER_07 46:35

I don't know why he isolated himself from like the artist.

SPEAKER_08 46:39

Well, I think he's in a bad because he's got issues with some people and their associates he can't rock with either. So, like if he's got people with Kanye, Ty is not gonna link up with him and there's loyalty for Kanye.

SPEAKER_14 46:52

You know what my problem with this song is now that I'm like really listening to it? Why listen to this when we got this? You get what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_11 47:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 47:08

Damn this Damn, yo, let this rock. I haven't heard this in years, yo.

SPEAKER_02 47:20

I can tell that money's got you working. We've been talking for so long.

SPEAKER_12 47:26

Now we're living personally, you swear.

SPEAKER_09 47:32

You would think this is his home, too.

SPEAKER_06 47:36

I can tell that you've been crying. I can tell that you've been crying. I got a lot of messages. I got a lot of messages to this.

SPEAKER_14 48:06

But that's what I'm saying, though. Like, you have shit like that, and it's kind of feel like you're kind of rehashing it.

SPEAKER_08 48:12

That's a good point. It feels like Drake parry uh parodying parody himself, and not in a better way. I do agree with that. It seems like he's trying to reheat, as the kids say, reheat his own nachos, and it's not working.

SPEAKER_07 48:25

But that's what I kinda like.

SPEAKER_14 48:26

I saw it a minute, kids say reheat your own nachos?

SPEAKER_08 48:29

Yeah, they'd be like, oh, they re hitting reheating their own nachos to say, like, oh, you're getting back in that in your old bag when like we really like the shit.

SPEAKER_14 48:35

Well, in the skippity.

SPEAKER_07 48:36

I like that.

SPEAKER_08 48:37

I kind of like that phrase too.

SPEAKER_09 48:39

I kind of like that phrase.

SPEAKER_07 48:41

Somebody, somebody, uh, there was a post where somebody took the song, like say Firm Friends, and then they had the nothing was the same album covered. It was like, this song can go on this album.

SPEAKER_14 48:51

Yeah, and that's kind of what bothered me because I saw that post too, and as I was sliding through, I was like, Yeah, you're right, but it's like, why is he doing that?

SPEAKER_08 48:59

Yeah, I mean there's no like no evolution.

SPEAKER_07 49:01

But to be fair though, I feel like it's in a in a combination of everything because the weekend did that shit last year as well. Like every hurry up tomorrow song, you he got it influenced from a different area.

SPEAKER_14 49:14

So the difference with that is that you can tell even when the weekend does it. He the weekend is one of those artists that does everything in trilogies. Yeah. And however the last album sounds in that trilogy is gonna sound like the first one.

SPEAKER_08 49:30

I will say to his point that I think by the time I got to Hurry Up Tomorrow, I was kind of tired of like the sound he was going with. It just felt like it sounded better on After Hours. Um, and then Don FM was kind of a deviation, so that worked. But by the time I got to Hurry Up Tomorrow, I think I was just like I had fatigue of the sound. And it's not that Hurry Up Tomorrow is a bad sounding album, it's not. But it just got to a point where I was just like, alright, like I like better I like songs off of After Hours better that I feel like are just kind of sequels to that. So I get where you're coming from. I I I get what he was trying to roll with. You end with where you started, but I just feel like after hours was done so well, I didn't need it again.

SPEAKER_14 50:15

I will say I like how vulnerable Drake is within like the entirety of Iceman, because even on what was it, make them cry.

SPEAKER_08 50:25

Yeah, that's the one for me.

SPEAKER_14 50:27

And make them cry, like he's telling you, look, like I had to get my shit together, I had to team back up with 40. I had to basically go back and see why is it that I'm hated the way that I'm hated.

SPEAKER_08 50:40

Yeah, I agree. I like that part because I always felt like the lack of 40 in the more recent works was part of the problem. So I did really like that vulnerability of him saying, like, yo, like 40 is asking me where the emotion and the depth is and like why I'm not giving it up how I used to. And I feel like he's maybe the problem is that Drake is not surrounded by 40 and some of those other people that will like really push him. Because he says it, he's like to unpack things is scary for me. Like, like I can't I can't, like, that's too much. I don't want to unpack. It's dunting his growth. Yeah. So I I agree with that.

SPEAKER_07 51:14

And that battle definitely made him reflect that I did like that.

SPEAKER_14 51:18

That was the sad part because it took it took until that.

SPEAKER_07 51:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 51:23

You know what I mean? Like it's not that it took until that, because I feel like he knew that for a while, but he wasn't really trying to prove it to himself.

SPEAKER_08 51:30

Or accept it. And I don't think he's even fully there yet because when you start off Iceman, I'm like, oh my god, finally some vulnerability, but then the next one is girls from Atlanta, they call me Santa. It's like we go, it's like we were so yeah, it was like we were so good on the vulnerability. I'm not expecting every track to be that way. I mean, to be fair, but you just kind of conflict yourself. It's like here you're vulnerable, and here you're like, fuck it, I don't care about the beef. I don't care.

SPEAKER_14 51:53

To be fair, Drake is is an intro artist too.

SPEAKER_08 51:56

Is a what? Is an intro artist? Like all his intros are like topics. This is one of the stronger ones in some of the more recent works.

SPEAKER_07 52:03

Yeah. I mean, shit, it's a better intro than fucking views. I didn't like the views intro.

SPEAKER_14 52:08

Whoa, whoa, watch your mouth.

SPEAKER_08 52:09

Wait, wait, let me pull it up.

SPEAKER_14 52:10

No, I'm pulling it up.

SPEAKER_08 52:11

No, no, no. I want to see, I just want to see what it is again because I need a reminder. Don't worry, I'm not gonna step on your toes, man. You play what you gotta play.

SPEAKER_14 52:19

How do you not like this?

SPEAKER_08 52:20

The fuck is that wrong?

SPEAKER_14 52:22

How do you not like this? No, I will defend views with my life.

SPEAKER_08 52:27

I remember this one.

SPEAKER_14 52:28

Yeah, I will defend views with my life. I don't care how many times niggas say he sucks.

SPEAKER_07 52:32

This intro sucks. That's really it. I love the album.

SPEAKER_08 52:36

I get why you don't like it, because you said something a similar thing about another song that kind of has this vibe.

SPEAKER_07 52:42

You ever been in sounds like that too? Like, I don't like when he comes in singing sometimes.

SPEAKER_14 52:46

Have you ever been in negative five cold ass winter weather, nigga? Are you kidding me?

SPEAKER_08 52:54

I feel like this is the vibe he should have brought for Iceman, actually.

SPEAKER_12 52:56

This actually still friends I don't have anymore.

SPEAKER_02 53:03

Doesn't that fit the vibe of Iceman too? Like you don't got these friends no more. I think it's evergreen. I think he's cooking.

SPEAKER_14 53:14

Nah, don't say y'all.

SPEAKER_08 53:16

Don't say y'all because I'm on board with this.

SPEAKER_14 53:18

Nigga, that's him.

SPEAKER_08 53:20

I think it's an Evergreen record too, because this could have been on Iceman. It has the same themes.

SPEAKER_07 53:25

I like this more with this happening now because I I don't think like what you were saying earlier, I just didn't believe this shit. Like it's like, oh man, let's just be friends. I'm like, bro, you're at the top of the game. Like, what are you talking about?

SPEAKER_08 53:37

Remember, this was in context after what Meek did.

SPEAKER_07 53:39

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 53:40

He didn't have Nikki anymore. Like, that was the real big fracture in that friendship that I think never really recovered from that.

SPEAKER_14 53:45

Yeah. And Nick was really hurt about Nikki too.

SPEAKER_08 53:48

Yeah, I would be too. Like, that's your label mate and like someone you consider family.

SPEAKER_14 53:52

And I wonder if he's laughing. I don't know. I would be shit.

SPEAKER_08 53:57

Yeah, because no matter how bad of a spot Drake's in, Nikki's in a worse spot.

SPEAKER_14 54:02

We just told you about it two weeks ago.

SPEAKER_08 54:04

Yeah. Like Drake's gonna be alright. Like, yeah. He'll never be what he was because nobody can maintain that that high for long. But he's not where Nikki is. I tell you that.

SPEAKER_07 54:14

Nicky just went down a mud slide.

SPEAKER_08 54:16

Yeah. It's bad. It's bad for her. So I do wonder what that what he does think. I agree. It's gotta be spooky over there. The nights get cold, man. But that is a good intro. I needed a reminder because I'm like, what was the the views intro? But it it was that he was just singing.

SPEAKER_07 54:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 54:38

Yo, that shit at full blast in the car, bro. My bad. I'm done. I'm done. He really loves views. Yeah, yeah. Come on. You love views.

SPEAKER_08 54:46

Be a Drake fan for a moment. You love views.

SPEAKER_12 54:48

We got him. We got him.

SPEAKER_10 54:53

You're a victim.

SPEAKER_07 54:59

Uh um. Oh, oh, let me let me see. There's one song, my fault. There's one song. There's one song I did really, really fuck with, and it reminded me of uh some old time shit.

SPEAKER_08 55:08

You said you fucked with it?

SPEAKER_07 55:09

What, the intro?

SPEAKER_08 55:10

No, no, no. The song you're about to play.

SPEAKER_07 55:12

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like heavy, heavy. Like I'm hoping, I'm hoping y'all feel the same, man.

SPEAKER_08 55:18

Give him a chance. Give him a chance.

SPEAKER_07 55:20

Nah, you just play keep the family close, so fuck.

SPEAKER_08 55:23

Not too much on keep the family close, though. I agree with him. That is a good intro. Not too much.

SPEAKER_06 55:34

Can I baby sped up?

SPEAKER_08 55:39

I didn't hate this one. I say play cool.

SPEAKER_07 55:41

This shit reminds me of Bobby Brown.

SPEAKER_08 55:43

Yeah, he's also doing his week weekend impression too, to me.

SPEAKER_09 55:50

Stuck.

SPEAKER_06 55:51

Stuck the traffic stuck.

SPEAKER_07 55:53

I be stuck in traffic with that. Stuck the guy.

SPEAKER_08 55:59

I'm not gonna lie, when he released this as a snippet, I wasn't fucking with it.

SPEAKER_07 56:02

This was a snippet?

SPEAKER_08 56:03

Yeah, he teased it, and I wasn't rocking with it out of context. But then I was like, it's not awful, but it doesn't feel like him.

SPEAKER_14 56:10

I kinda hate this.

SPEAKER_07 56:12

I can tell, but it looked like it reminds me of new edition or something. Maybe it's the beat.

SPEAKER_01 56:18

Uh why why do you hate it? Like what's not connecting for you.

SPEAKER_14 56:26

So I fuck with the beat. Okay, yeah. I definitely fuck with the beat. He's doing that sing songgy monotone shit that I hate.

SPEAKER_08 56:35

That's fair.

SPEAKER_14 56:36

And I can't fucking stand it.

SPEAKER_08 56:38

I think that's that's my problem on Maid of Honor. Like, when you have a house beat, that requires like I don't think people factor in like just how much your vocals have to matter on that. I think people get lost in how good the production sounds. For me, your voice has to match that. And Drake's vocals are too thin on a Maid of Honor for me to fully like get into it like that. Like some of the beats is that's how I felt about Honestly Nevermind 2. A lot of the production is really good, but it carries him.

SPEAKER_07 57:03

Yeah, oh yeah. What? He's getting carry bottom peaked.

SPEAKER_08 57:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 57:07

So are we gonna get into it? Oh, wait, no, that's not your point, bro.

SPEAKER_07 57:10

Um, we're stuck?

SPEAKER_14 57:14

Nah, nah. Are we gonna get into it?

SPEAKER_08 57:17

What do you want to get into? Yeah.

unknown 57:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 57:24

I'm gonna let this whole thing play out.

SPEAKER_07 57:26

Can we agree this is probably the best song about there? Oh, for sure.

SPEAKER_08 57:32

It's I think one of the better one of the best beats.

SPEAKER_07 57:36

I guess the best, I feel like the best introspective song. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:40

I just wanna be fired too, though. Yes. The sample is it's good.

SPEAKER_07 57:45

Look.

SPEAKER_02 57:55

I was in a dream hotel before I was in a loop like a carabina. Yeah. And shot to all the sweet things from Willamina, who tell me at the white party, Drake, I love the album. Well, I mean you kinda genius. And like Dip said they really mean it. I like that way you meant those words. I need a compliment. Well, I mean you kind of lately it's just we're ballin' out to disagreements. Industry is really evil. And I face the way they paint me, but it hurts just like the Philly Eagles. LA loves the sound, I could play a show for a million people. Don't be surprised. These niggas measuring their dick size in millimeters. There we go, but I'm ready about it. Other than me talking about the way I'm flippin' dough like little Caesars. I'm tryna catch one of you boys, start gazin' in the field like little leagues. Yeah. And ain't no passes for you, quit walking. All of that diss talking, kiddo beat it. I'm supposed to be my brother's keeper, so don't make us hit another buzzer beater. And don't be suddenly eager to hit me up and have no discussions either. Now you gotta plan a meeting with me, just like the Russian leader. To shake my fuckin' hand in front of other people. Yeah, fuck the chatter. Since 2009, as I climb the ladder, they envy me like Nevada, but it never matter. My niggas run the phone soon as you check in the prison. Your niggas run and talk to hold for a second opinion. Me, I stood 10 T's and accepted the mission. Cause I much rather death than submission. How can you press the ignition? And let some memories of the past affect the decision. I love you cause of the history, but if we be in real, I can never forget ya. And you never call me back, but destiny's written. For real. Fuck a big three anyway. There was too many chefs in the kitchen. It was a mess to begin with. And now they got a new goal, and we gotta test the position. Damn, we just got for real, I guess the magician. Hundred million streams vanished, no one got questions for niggas. Well, maybe I'm best as the villain. Cause I got real numbers on niggas who said they got billionaires. I got all the chains that they never repped in Virginia. I got niggas cost possessions. I get possessive on niggas. I got problems with people who I would've never dreamed. Making people in a get in between. You know what I mean? The beef was fully locked. I literally watched these colors from reds and a one ever discount.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:46

Nah, nah, cause Kala got too quiet.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:48

And it was like I got teaching that the jerk key.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:02

I got two drink songs in my house.

SPEAKER_08 1:01:08

That's fair, like the candy, but never like that. Like that was on my trick. You gotta keep my name out. You can make peace with that.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:17

Yeah, we definitely gotta get this. I do like that bar though, Michael Lottie.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:30

Cause I just wanna be free.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:39

That was a love letter to the label.

unknown 1:01:41

Yeah. Free. Free. I just wanna be.

SPEAKER_14 1:01:52

So my main problem. And I'm gonna start off with that, because that was the point I was about to get into.

SPEAKER_08 1:01:59

Sorry, I jumped the gun, my bad. No, no, no, you're good.

SPEAKER_14 1:02:04

Why are you making songs with future?

SPEAKER_07 1:02:06

What do you mean, bro?

SPEAKER_08 1:02:08

Nah, let them cook. Let him cook.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:10

That's a good state. That's that's uh I I gotta show them that that Kendrick verse at the end was a fucking lie. Like I'm still I'm still running Atlanta.

SPEAKER_14 1:02:19

Okay, cool. Cool, right? You're working with Future. He was the reason all this shit started because not only was Kendrick's verse a surprise verse on the album, literally called We Don't Trust You. And not only that, but the entire album was basically saying, Yo, Drake, we don't trust you. But then you work with this nigga after he gave that song again. And then he worked on the follow too.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:59

We still don't trust you, so you got a problem with the cold.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:04

Nah, that cold versus already pre-recorded.

SPEAKER_14 1:03:07

That's cool.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:08

But still.

SPEAKER_14 1:03:09

But why is he on the follower though?

SPEAKER_07 1:03:13

Oh, because listen, bruh.

SPEAKER_14 1:03:14

Yo, I feel like future, future's a fake ass bitch, bro.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:18

But we know this though. I feel like future is just like a nigga, I'm here for the money, I'm here for the bad.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:23

But I feel like the moment you put future on Ranta Atlanta, you discredit your whole narrative on Iceman. You're supposed to be ice cold, not fucking with no one in the industry, and you got a nigga that essentially celebrated and starting off all of this.

SPEAKER_15 1:03:38

There's three things I don't think you should be doing as a grown-ass man. Let's get right into it.

SPEAKER_14 1:03:42

I'm just saying, bro.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:44

Now that it's facts. So, like, if you can get future on this album, you can piece it up with Cole. You can piece it up with Khaled. Go give them niggas a hug and stop crying.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:52

Nah, Khaled ain't getting no hug. Cole?

SPEAKER_08 1:03:54

You need to piece it up with both of them niggas. Because if if it was so offensive to you that Khaled kept his mouth shut, why you got future on there? Future did worse.

SPEAKER_14 1:04:02

I'm also conflicted because now Drake's in there talking about some Cole, you never called me back. Nigga, Cole just went on and said how he tried to call you, he just wasn't trying to talk to the nigga.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:11

Right.

SPEAKER_14 1:04:13

Am I wrong or not?

SPEAKER_07 1:04:14

I don't know the timeline.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:16

It might be like a he said, he said situation. Like it's his truth, Cole's truth, and then the actual truth.

SPEAKER_14 1:04:22

I think see a lot of the shit on Iceman though sounds like it was recorded maybe at least like within the last six months.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:29

I'm sure there's stuff that was recorded probably in 2024 on here.

SPEAKER_14 1:04:33

If I feel like anything was recorded in 2024, it's it's make them pay.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:04:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:39

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I think also too, um J. Cole, whatever happened between the both of them. I think the pure fact of like they were like they were on tour together, they did a few tracks, they were a first-person shooter, they like buddy buddy, and then that's like that's basically like a dude came to stick you up and then your man just ran. And now you're just there like that.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:06

That's fair, cause seven-minute drill did sample energy, so clearly there was conversations being had between the both of them about how they were gonna go about approaching the response to their responses to like this.

SPEAKER_14 1:05:16

My niggas, I just can't respect niggas that just don't stand for shit.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:19

True, and that's future for real.

SPEAKER_14 1:05:20

Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:22

If I'm Metro, I'm looking at you funny nigga. You supposed to be my man, and and now you're you're pieced back up enough to go do a song on Iceman, and you know Metro and Drake probably haven't pieced it up.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:32

Yeah. Well, I heard another thing too that 21 Savage put them both on a call, like, yo, y'all need to straighten this. And I also think Future was I think Future did the whole rollout and was like on the fuck Drake wave just off the pure sense of my man's not fucking with you. And he wants to make a collab album, and he um didn't want to he didn't want to not run. With the with the narrative, you know? Like, okay, well, my man's just kicking his back in. He can't say how he feels. So I guess. Because he also said in the interview once that that Kendrick feature, I think Metro called Kendrick. Like, I got a beat for you. Yeah. I don't think Future even thought of fucking King.

SPEAKER_08 1:06:16

I don't believe Future. I don't believe him.

SPEAKER_14 1:06:18

I mean, I don't think that Future sat there and said, yo, dust this nigga.

SPEAKER_08 1:06:22

But I do think Future had his own issues with Drake. Again, we just said he's a self-serving nigga. So it's more than just about Metro because if it was about Metro, he never would have hopped on Iceman. So I think Future had his own issues. It's been rumored to be about a woman. About, yeah, I'll say it's about Puss. Yeah, I don't know how true that is. I think Future had his own issues. And I think much like Drake and Cole had a conversation about how to respond to like that. I think once when they played uh Kendrick the beat, they kind of told him the idea they were running with for this whole album. Drake came up and Kendrick was like, Well, I gotta get them niggas back for first person shooter. This is the place to do it, since y'all have issues with the nigga too. I think that's kind of how that came about. I don't trust future at all. We still don't trust you.

SPEAKER_14 1:07:02

That's one of the hardest intros, by the way. We still don't trust you. Crazy. Fucking crazy.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:12

And then they put the weekend on. I was like, yo, nah, yo. They had the weekend as a just an instrument.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:19

And again, you got the weekend on that shit. Who has who's had the most issues with Drake? Yeah. So there's no way that future didn't have stake and having an issue with Drake too and putting that together. It doesn't come together by accident.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:29

And I don't know if y'all saw the uh the little interview they asked him, him and Metro during the rollout, like months and months later. They was like, yo, so how do you feel about um oh boy, uh, like that being the whole catalyst thing? Future is like, what beef?

SPEAKER_08 1:07:48

Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, but that's my thing. Like he's being petty.

SPEAKER_14 1:07:51

Looking back at that though, it's kind of just like I wish this nigga would say something, bro.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:07:59

Like anything. Like you don't even have to say anything crazy, but like Future you mean? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. That nigga pissed me off, bro. Nah, I feel uh I agree with you.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:09

Going back to the rest of the here for shit though, bro. You just he, I'm just here for the money.

SPEAKER_14 1:08:13

Yo, you could be here for the money, but just you as you as a nigga and your self-pride and everything just for self, I just don't respect that, bro.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:24

What if I tell you this though? I've been kind of, I'm not gonna say I lost respect for future, but I kind of stopped taking, I took him at like a face value after the whole, after um, he did an album with Juice World, and Juice World was like, yo, I used to be high as shit off everything listening to your music, and this is not in the future. Was like, I don't even do drugs. He was like, I don't even do drugs, and he was mind blown that Juice World was actually doing drugs because of his music.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:51

Yeah, because to a degree, I think a lot of people, there are like a small percentage of rappers that really are who they say they are, but a lot of these rappers are just acting. Yeah, and Drake literally was an actor before because Drake is a role, and Aubrey is the real person, and I think once people start to accept that, I'm slowly accepting that. Once more people accept that, you take what he says at face value. And I agree with you. The moment Future said that, I'm like, all right, cool. So he's one of these, he's cosplaying.

SPEAKER_14 1:09:16

Yeah, it's only hard for us to accept it.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:17

But it was just so crazy.

SPEAKER_14 1:09:19

It's only hard for us to accept it because we were riding on a big three for years. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, it was one of those things where it was just like the big three was the catalyst and only thing to keep us going since what 2009?

SPEAKER_08 1:09:33

Yeah, yeah, but to be fair, that was something that fans pushed on them. They weren't running around saying they were the big three. That was something that was created by fans online and it became bigger than them.

SPEAKER_14 1:09:43

Absolutely, but like that's with every era of rap. Like, there's gonna be certain niggas who are in that area of rap that's gonna be able to boost above the other ones. Like the whole blog era, we didn't really have that many niggas. Like, we had a lot of niggas in the blog era, whiz, but not many. Big Sean, big Sean, Wiz, Wale, Big Sean, MG K fucking just a whole bunch of.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:07

Joey badass, I think, counts towards the tail end of that.

SPEAKER_14 1:10:10

Yeah, and it's like out of everybody that we just named, is either they wasn't dropping projects, they switched sounds, and just wasn't like all of it just was not comprehending with what it is that we wanted.

SPEAKER_15 1:10:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:10:25

When it came to Cole, Kendrick, and Drake, they were on it. Even when Kendrick disappeared for five years, he was still respected on that tall pedestal.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:34

I think they all provided something different at the time. So, like, you if you weren't getting something from one of them, you were getting it from the other.

SPEAKER_14 1:10:41

Not only that, but they were still doing shit the old school label way, yeah. Which we were all used to for years.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:48

They're like the last of the old label way, honestly. Especially, and they had the most, I think they had the most successful radio hit. Like, I feel like them three catered to the label move so well that the label's like, listen, they're hitmakers, let's just keep pouring our money into them. We're getting profit back. I feel like everyone else we named in a way, unfortunately, didn't make the margin for whatever they were trying to, for their label was trying to boost.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:16

Yeah, I think they they didn't certainly didn't last as long as them because they're still going, we're still looking at them. I would say if Big Sean had remained consistent after I decided, he could have been up there with them. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:11:27

I would have said Big Sean would Big Sean definitely would have been part of the big four if it wasn't for control. For sure.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:33

Yeah, if it wasn't for control, in fact, he could have easily shelled that verse. So I think he's a rapper's rapper.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:38

Fuck out of here, yo. I'm redoing my verse, bro.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:41

Uh I respect him a little bit more because like he wasn't trying to front. He was like, This is rap and this is bigger than me. So I respect that more. That was a big moment. I remember when that shit dropped. So I actually respect that.

SPEAKER_14 1:11:52

I'm gonna be honest with you.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:55

And he took it in stride, unlike Drake, who like got his feelings hurt from that.

SPEAKER_14 1:11:58

I don't know how old I was when that shit came out, bro. 2013.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:12:02

2013. Okay, so I was in high school.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:04

So little that was supposed to be on Big Sean's Hall of Fame album. And then he was like, he was like, Don't put it, don't put it on.

SPEAKER_14 1:12:12

Like little 15, 16-year-old me on fucking Hot New Hip Hop downloading that shit.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:17

I was mad when Hall of Fame came out and that wasn't on.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:19

Yeah, you're like, What? I put it, I was I used to um import albums onto iTunes, so I physically imported that shit on the album. I was like, you're just gonna be at the end of this.

SPEAKER_14 1:12:30

Yeah, yeah, we're really the last generation of like burned CDs.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:33

Yeah, man. I used to make my own covers and like I don't this this album cover is lame. I'm gonna do my own shit with the explicit sticker on there.

SPEAKER_14 1:12:39

Yo, my man's Jorge, like he like when I when I was in elementary school, like he wasn't really known with rap and shit. Like he was mostly listening to Spanish music and shit. Yo, I burned him a CD, his love for rap accelerated.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:53

Yeah, I feel like that's like true, like uh like a true beginning for real hip-hop lovers. That's like kind of all like all of us have done that, you know. Um, but yeah, I'm a big Big Sean fan, so not too much on him. Yo, we too, I know. Okay, that's what's up, and he's a cool guy too. He's a cool guy. Yo, don't hate yo, yo, I don't hate Big Sean.

SPEAKER_14 1:13:12

I don't hate Big Sean. I do feel like his projects became a lot more lackluster within the last few years. I think I don't hate him.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:19

I think there's a lot of like like unnecessary hate he gets, and I think sometimes he tries to overcompensate by over rapping. Yeah, but the nigga can rap, he don't have to do all that hibbity hibbity hibida and speeding up to show me you can rap. Like he to me, he has some of the best double entendres in the game. That's in my opinion. I feel like that um so I don't think he gotta do too much. Um, but I think if he had remained consistent, we would be having a different conversation.

SPEAKER_14 1:13:41

That was my other problem with him. He couldn't stay consistent, even when he tried to, Kendrick stepped in every time.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:47

Yeah, it was every time he was ready to pop back outside, even in 2024. This nigga was rolling out his latest album, Here Come Kendrick and Drake. Yeah. Fell for it.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:54

Yo, that shit was crazy the same night. And that's crazy because he was like, Y'all worried about a big three, and it's me. And they was like here they go.

SPEAKER_09 1:14:01

They was like, shut up, little nigga. He's like that. I'm sorry, Sean. I'm sorry. But it's true.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:08

I think I think him stepping away and saying that, oh, all this mentally drove me to almost committing suicide was crazy.

SPEAKER_08 1:14:16

Sean, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:17

But I think, I don't know, I feel like he peaked in Dark Sky Paradise.

SPEAKER_08 1:14:23

You wasn't fucking when I decided, because I feel like that's where he I got the CD.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:26

I I love I decided, but I don't know why it didn't get that reception. I don't know.

SPEAKER_08 1:14:32

I think maybe like they were just as well.

SPEAKER_14 1:14:33

That might have been because of that might have been because of control. Like I know um what was the album that you just said that Beware is on? Uh Beware's on Hall of Fame, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:43

It's on Hall of Fame.

SPEAKER_14 1:14:44

Even though Hall of Fame Hall of Fame dropped close enough to the control verse being out that everybody was kind of able to like glide past it because everybody was kind of waiting for a response from Sean. And when he didn't give it and they realized, oh shit, this album's just good. Yeah, it kind of got that play. Now, when it came to I decided, which I feel like is one of his better projects, nobody gave a flying fuck.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:10

He had a hit with the what was it? Um Bounce Back. That was a hit.

SPEAKER_14 1:15:16

Huh? Moves.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:17

Yeah, so he had some hits on that. I would argue that people cared about him. I would say where it started was that they were expecting Big Sean and Kendrick to do what Drake and him did. He should because like Joe Budden was trying to like gas up an issue between them, and and Big Sean like addresses that on Detroit too, where it's like, I didn't think there was an issue, but then niggas started saying that there was, and so I started shooting at him because maybe there is an issue, and they pieced it up when Nipsey died. So I think that's kind of where things went with him. I think people were expecting him to really engage in that with Kendrick, and he fell back just entirely, and then people just kind of never picked back up with him. I would say that's kind of where I think things went wrong with him. I think people still cared about him on I decided, but when he took that break and then he linked up with Metro for that album.

SPEAKER_14 1:15:59

So I think it was 2088 that was kind of the downfall. I love that album. I know a lot of people love it, but like reception-wise, it didn't do great.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:07

You're right, it it gained a cult following after.

SPEAKER_14 1:16:11

You good, Poogie?

SPEAKER_07 1:16:12

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was just trying to child side down.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:16

Uh, I agree. I think it it got its cult following uh after.

SPEAKER_14 1:16:23

And that was the unfortunate part for him because like even albums like Dark Sky Paradise goaded for life.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:29

That production, that's one of the best produced rap albums, I think, to come out of that.

SPEAKER_14 1:16:32

But Dark Sky came out before I I decided, right?

SPEAKER_08 1:16:34

Okay, it was the Dark Sky 2088, I decided. And then the joint with Metro the same year, that wasn't received well.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:41

Now I see the problem. I was kind of pissed.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:44

I was like, why did you yeah, that wasn't the right producer for him to do a whole like a whole album? Nah, they got a couple of music.

SPEAKER_14 1:16:50

Now I kind of see the problem in that because like if you come out with something as amazing as Dark Sky Paradise to do a joint album with your girl, niggas are gonna hate you.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:03

It was a good body, and now niggas want a sequel. That's what kills me. Niggas want a sequel, me too. But the same ones that was hating on it back then now want a sequel. So niggas don't know what they want sometimes, and that's back to Drake. I think Drake gotta start making music he truly believes in and loves instead of trying to make music to what he thinks we want to hear. Yeah, that's done.

SPEAKER_14 1:17:21

Honestly, I'm you can't do that only because we've spent over an hour on Drake. The last thing I'm gonna say about this nigga, honestly, is that and I'm talking to you specifically, Aubrey.

SPEAKER_10 1:17:35

Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_14 1:17:37

These three albums, they cool and all that. They mid, but they cool and all that. You better start making music for yourself, nigga.

SPEAKER_09 1:17:47

Agreed.

SPEAKER_14 1:17:47

You better start, like now that you out of the label, you better be making the best fucking music on planet earlier. If you're not, fuck you, nigga.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:55

So so let's get into that because I want to talk about the future. I feel like now, so there's, so there was, we can end it up, we could we can wrap this up now. I know you don't want to talk about Drake any longer, but check it. Check this shit out. I think between um the label between the label being dropped, and I guess um he has stakes and equity from other people pouring into uh his career. Supposedly if he leaves the label, he's gonna have like two billion dollars in revenue from his music alone. So there's that, and then I also four years they said he was been trying to get out this label deal so he can have the real slaps on his hard drive and be like, I'm still here.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:44

I hate that excuse. Because it it brings back to Donnie's point. Now that he's out of this deal, supposedly, right? If you don't come with a good album, that excuse is dead. Because that's how people have been for uh caping for him for a long time. Oh, he wants to get out of his deal, so he's just dropping whatever. First of all, I feel like that's a piss and poor excuse and it's a poor artistic integrity.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:05

But to Donnie's point, if this next album independent, because I'm assuming I'm assuming he'll go independent, if it doesn't go, then that's just an excuse and you're just you're not what you were.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:15

Yeah. Well, I heard also he dropping in um he dropping before December.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:22

I don't think he should drop again after three albums.

SPEAKER_14 1:19:24

I honestly I don't think so either. I honestly feel like he's also waiting for that red button. Like I as I said, I know he says that he's not worried about Kendrick. He is, but I feel as though that nigga's the boogeyman. It's been two years now. Kendrick can drop anytime between now and like another two years.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:43

Yeah. Because I know there's some r rumors ramping up that he's dropping this summer. I don't think so.

SPEAKER_14 1:19:47

I think me and Kayla got a bet. I told her that he's dropping by the end of the year.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:50

Yeah, we got 20 bucks on that. I don't think he's dropping.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:52

I don't think he's dropping end of the year. If he does drop, I think it will be before August, only because the Grammy submissions end after September or like the beginning of September.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:04

Yeah. I feel like if I'm Kendrick, like us both being Geminis, that Gemini mine. If I'm Kendrick, I'm gonna be like, no, let him let him cry and have this year. Let him see what he does when I'm not in the mix. Yeah. I already did what I set out to do, I've already did the damage. Let him have this. I feel it. And I'll come out another time. Because remember, he was working on an album, a different album before GNX. Yeah. So I feel like he's just gonna let Drake have his moment, not out of like kindness, but it's just like I did what I needed to do. I was in y'all's faces for two years. Yeah. I'm gonna do me. You let the Canadian cry for an hour and 18 minutes. Let him have his moment.

SPEAKER_14 1:20:39

Go ahead and cry, Chris.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:40

I feel like if he don't come out this year, I feel like we're not gonna see Kendrick for like five years.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:47

But that's fair because he did more than he typically does. Like he was everywhere. And niggas start to turn on you too when they see you too much and you win too much. It's like it's like Zendaya said, Oh, I'm in four movies this year, I'm going away for a while. Niggas start to hate on you for no reason when you start being super successful and everywhere. So I feel like, yeah, it's like Kendrick is like they miss you more when you go away. There is a benefit to going away that Drake has not quite learned yet.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:09

Well, if you look, that just happened because um after Kendrick's run, he's kind of been radio silent for I don't want to say a year, but he just stopped. That's not the Keem features.

SPEAKER_14 1:21:21

It was it was good to see him, like, besides like the Keem documentary for casino and all that. It was good to see him at the Grammys this year. Yes, that was because you could tell that like he's on a mission, like even the way that he was dressed, the small symbolism, the glove, all that. Yeah, you can tell that he's on a mission that's just not finished. Yeah, but he's not gonna sit there and rush it either.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:46

Yeah, he's very intentional. I think that's always what's gonna matter. And one final point with the album cover for Iceman. Remember, Kendrick was running with that glove in Mr. Morale. So I do think that's Drake's also another response with that album. Maybe I'm reaching, but I do think it's interesting that he in Family Matters pulled away from the Michael comparisons and said, Maybe I'm Prince and you're Mike. And then he popped back up again with the glove.

SPEAKER_14 1:22:11

But that was a thing with me too, though.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:13

Because that number one.

SPEAKER_14 1:22:14

I'm about to say, like, even a first-person shooter, like he was like, I want away from Michael, be the nigga, whatever the fuck.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:19

Which I'm not impressed by because Michael was selling actual physical albums to that rate. You are streaming, those are streaming numbers.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:25

But he was still when the CD bef uh before CLB, he still had the uh the CD approval.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:32

Like he his pure sales have not been what they were earlier in his career.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:37

I don't think we're ever gonna see pure CD stuff.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:39

But that's what I'm saying. These these records that you're breaking from Mike now are streaming number like stats. Yeah, I'm not impressed by streaming number stats. That's easier than what Michael was doing back in 84, right? Was it 84 or 82?

SPEAKER_14 1:22:51

Yeah, 84. I think it was 84, yeah. I think it's 84.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:54

That was a different time. This nigga was doing like he couldn't even top thriller himself with bad.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:58

Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:59

Uh numbers wise. Um, I'm not as impressed by the the flaunting of breaking nigga beat it, nigga. I'm not, nigga, I'm not impressed. Nobody will ever beat Michael, ever. So I don't care how many of his records he breaks. Michael was doing that off of pure sales. Yeah. Iceman sold 11k. Pure.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:20

Damn.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:21

I don't want to hear that talk.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:22

11k?

SPEAKER_08 1:23:24

Yeah. Just saying.

SPEAKER_14 1:23:26

That's just crazy.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:23:28

Are we good? Yeah. Are we done? Please, are we done? Jesus Christ, I'm exhausted talking about the thing about drinking.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:35

You know what? I was exhausted too having to sit through three hours. So fair facts. Fair straight. Yeah, fair trade.

SPEAKER_14 1:23:42

We're gonna get into the real shit because audience, I ain't give it to y'all last week.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:49

Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:23:54

Let the shit rock, please.

SPEAKER_12 1:23:56

Please.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:01

One of the greatest RB intros of our time.

SPEAKER_14 1:24:04

Another argument incoming. You gotta just let the beat rock like the big bee crop. Yoda's intro is so good, you know.

SPEAKER_09 1:25:23

You couldn't wait to say that.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:24

Yo, and everything hits like dark chop.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:31

Let me bring it up. Everybody got opinions, but they bitten a message. I've been fighting my penis, I've letting my letters. I don't need no directors. I've already been a bit fucking my dumb feel. Every skull got a bit on baby. I don't need to float. I don't need to float. I've been giving it this way. I've been breaking these way. Don't understand me. It's okay, that's fine. I'm ready for my future. I'm just feeling it.

SPEAKER_14 1:26:16

Don't get me started, because I'll play that whole shit. Yo, I ain't gonna lie. Chris Brown, that was a great fucking intro. And I'm gonna be honest. The whole first week this album came up, I shouldn't on it.

SPEAKER_08 1:26:34

I'm still shitting on it.

SPEAKER_14 1:26:35

It's a lot better now. It's a lot better now that I hear it differently. But when I first came out, I shouldn't on it.

SPEAKER_08 1:26:44

For good reason. Because I still feel that way. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:48

Damn, bro.

SPEAKER_14 1:26:49

Audience, this nigga is so dramatic.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:51

I'm not dramatic. He listened to Iceman eight times and then turned off the C B. Turned off the breezy.

SPEAKER_08 1:26:58

Listen.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:59

We have been infiltrated.

SPEAKER_08 1:27:02

Listen, I will say, incredible start. The production, that like that first minute, because I think it rocks for a minute before you start saying the production is great. I've heard a better version of that song though, Don't Judge Me, off of Fortune. That same theme. And the same theme on uh Angel Numbers. Healing energy, um B. Like it's that same theme. I've heard it better before.

SPEAKER_14 1:27:28

So I feel like I feel like Chris. Chris is Chris is an anomaly, right? He's one of those people that as much as you want to hear what it is that he's going through, this nigga has been talking about fucking for the last 20 years.

SPEAKER_08 1:27:49

And he can keep that honey pack shit.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:51

Whoa, I was about to say put on a honey pack. Honey and honey pack?

SPEAKER_14 1:27:56

Here's my thing.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:56

Sick work though. I ain't gonna lie. Yeah, that's nasty work. That's grown man shit right there.

SPEAKER_13 1:28:02

Nah, that's nasty.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:03

Nah, that's nasty, right?

SPEAKER_14 1:28:04

That's grown man's fucking nasty. Yeah, you look, bro.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:07

Bro, you are a goblin out the Henny and Honey Pack.

SPEAKER_08 1:28:13

Nasty.

SPEAKER_14 1:28:14

When I first heard it, I'm like, this just sounds like the same shit Chris Brown does. Exactly. But that's kind of that's kind of like the thing with Chris Brown.

SPEAKER_08 1:28:23

Nah, you gotta want better.

SPEAKER_14 1:28:25

Now that I heard that album a few more times, I think at this point, if I'm counting correctly, I probably heard the album. There's fucking 12 out there ruining shit. I probably heard the album at least maybe 10 times now. Okay.

SPEAKER_08 1:28:41

I'm gonna be honest with you. I think you're settling because you you're a fan of his work. And I think you like adjusted your your expectations and just settled and accepted what he gave you.

SPEAKER_14 1:28:52

I feel like the problem jersey.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:54

That's that's on game.

SPEAKER_14 1:28:55

I feel like the problem with him in this album is that he set expectations way too high with the cover.

SPEAKER_08 1:29:00

Yeah, thank you. Let's talk about it. Don't pose like that if you're not gonna give me some real good RB shit. Don't do that.

SPEAKER_14 1:29:08

Or at least it's not good. I mean, it's not smash hits, sure. It's more like bedroom heavy shit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:29:16

It just feels like a hard drive dump to me again.

SPEAKER_14 1:29:19

I can't really say that though.

SPEAKER_08 1:29:20

It feels that way. It doesn't feel like there's any intention behind his track listing. Like, I got to certain points of the album where it feels like, okay, these are a bunch of songs that I know a certain set of fans like. The first song is cool, the second one sounds like a watered-down version of that one, and then the one after that sounds like an even more watered down version.

SPEAKER_14 1:29:37

I can't say that when there's shit like this on there, man.

SPEAKER_08 1:29:40

Don't play me some bullshit.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:42

Oh, this is this is gonna come up with it.

SPEAKER_14 1:29:44

This is one of the better ones.

SPEAKER_08 1:29:45

He didn't even push this though. He didn't, and it doesn't feel as authentic to me. If he's gonna do a song like this and finally evolve and step like into some odd new, do it with the whole album. But who's don't just give me one random song. Don't give me one random song.

SPEAKER_14 1:29:58

Who's pushing his shit though?

SPEAKER_08 1:29:59

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_14 1:29:59

Because when was the last time Chris actually pushed his own shit?

SPEAKER_08 1:30:03

That's also the problem.

SPEAKER_14 1:30:04

Yeah. Like Chris has been label reliant since he was 16.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:09

And they're not giving him anything.

SPEAKER_14 1:30:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:10

And he's also not willing, like Drake, we just said he put all his money into that promo to give his fans something.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:16

Chris Brown's not willing to do that because I just think he's in a space where he's like, nigga, I'm making mad money from these tours. I don't need to do anything else. And the money I make from these shows, I'm gonna put into the next album.

SPEAKER_14 1:30:25

And that's kind of my second problem is that he only rushed the album out.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:30

For this tour.

SPEAKER_14 1:30:31

Not even for the tour.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:32

I think so.

SPEAKER_14 1:30:33

He rushed the album out because, like, throughout the entirety of Breezy Bowl, everybody's like, oh, it depends. It's brown. Holy blindfold is brown. We getting a brown album. We doing this, we doing that. Everybody kept, like, not everybody, but all his fans kept rushing him to put this tape out.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:51

He didn't have to listen to him. That's the problem.

SPEAKER_14 1:30:53

As much as he didn't have to listen to him, if we know anything about Chris, he does everything that he can for his fans because he doesn't even give a fuck about himself.

SPEAKER_10 1:31:00

There we go.

unknown 1:31:02

We got it.

SPEAKER_14 1:31:03

Um these niggas out here trying to fucking do cable management and shit.

SPEAKER_08 1:31:09

I will say too, like, that's the problem with trying to put out music while you're touring. It never sounds good because touring is a lot of work. Yeah. And most of your focus and energies on touring. He set himself up. He shouldn't have put out new songs. He put out three, right? Holy Blindfold, it depends.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:25

And the obvious and then the Leon Thomas.

SPEAKER_14 1:31:27

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:31:28

He was off tour at that time.

SPEAKER_14 1:31:29

It was obvious. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. While he was on tour, it was it depends. So that was his fault.

SPEAKER_08 1:31:34

Like, like I said about Drake, Chris gotta get to a point where it's like, fuck what the fans think. That's why Beyonce's thriving right now. Niggas didn't want a country album from her. She said that's what you're gonna get at all.

SPEAKER_14 1:31:42

Okay, so respectfully, in that case though, like Chris doesn't really have a choice but to listen to his fans.

SPEAKER_08 1:31:51

He's the artist.

SPEAKER_14 1:31:52

Yes, he's the artist, but after you have to say it with your chest. Nah, I ain't saying that shit with my chest. Because I respect that nigga. I respect that nigga, honestly.

SPEAKER_08 1:32:03

That was his fuck up. Say it with your chest.

SPEAKER_14 1:32:05

It was his fuck up, but that was a fuck up that was a big chance.

SPEAKER_08 1:32:07

We're not gonna get there.

SPEAKER_14 1:32:09

For the rest of his fucking career.

SPEAKER_08 1:32:14

I'm one of the rare fans that like I can like your music, but I'm never gonna coddle you for that. I'm never gonna uh mute myself for that. Like, you did that.

SPEAKER_14 1:32:23

I'm gonna mute myself because I got respect for the nigga. Yeah, he did. That's on you. Like I got respect for the nigga. That's on you. Just know where I feel like that's just where I there's just certain people that I got respect for. Like I got respect for him. I got respect for Rhee. I got respect for MGK. Yeah, I'm always gonna defend that nigga no matter what. It's cool. Go ahead, nigga.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:43

I just knew the list.

SPEAKER_14 1:32:46

Oh my god, bro.

SPEAKER_08 1:32:48

We're not even on that because then we we could be talking all day.

SPEAKER_09 1:33:01

Oh my god, is this the chick that does the I was gonna say anyway?

SPEAKER_14 1:33:14

What were you saying?

SPEAKER_08 1:33:15

I was saying, like he's the artist. I feel like that's a cop out too. Like the fans, at the end of the day, his fans are loyal enough to him. You gotta start saying, fuck what y'all are are asking me for. I want to do music I believe in. And I feel like when we when you keep settling for this kind of music, he's gonna keep giving you this kind of slop.

SPEAKER_14 1:33:33

It's the same sound that he has since graffiti.

SPEAKER_08 1:33:36

I'm bored. It's the Chris Brown sound that's not a good thing. No, it's not the same. No, no, no, no, no. All right, all right, hear me out, hear me out, hear me out, hear me out, hear me, hear me out. And those all sound like distinct, different outlooks.

SPEAKER_14 1:33:46

Because I'm talking, I'm talking from a Chris Brown fan perspective, right? Graffiti, regardless of what we say about it, whether it was good, whether it was bad, whatever, that was the starting basis catalyst of the Chris Brown sound. Okay. There will be no Chris Brown sound without graffiti. Because graffiti had shit like I Can Transform You. Graffiti had shit like Famous Girl. Famous girl was that shit. Shit like Graffiti had shit, what was it? Fuck crawl, because I don't even give a fuck about it.

SPEAKER_08 1:34:17

Nah, don't do too much on crawl. Don't do too much on Crawl.

SPEAKER_14 1:34:20

Fuck crawl. Crawl was alright.

SPEAKER_08 1:34:21

I liked crawl. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:34:22

There's certain sounds from graffiti.

SPEAKER_08 1:34:24

You're doing too much.

SPEAKER_14 1:34:25

That he reinvented in fame and then carried on to fortune.

SPEAKER_08 1:34:29

I think you're missing out on how important and central those in my zone mixtapes were too. A lot of fame came from that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:34:36

Of course.

SPEAKER_08 1:34:36

But I don't, I think that's the last time he did anything inventive or like different. Like it's been the same thing.

SPEAKER_14 1:34:42

There's also a different era.

SPEAKER_07 1:34:43

Damn, I need this was fire.

SPEAKER_14 1:34:45

Like back then. Yes.

SPEAKER_08 1:34:46

Yes, it was.

SPEAKER_14 1:34:47

Back then, it was cool when you drop in in my zone, in my zone to the always be mixtape, the before the party. Poin detention. Point detention, all that shit. Like at that time and at 2011 to 2015 era, you could do that. You can't really do that now.

SPEAKER_08 1:35:04

I don't think a lot of other artists are having the issue I think Chris Brown is having. Though. Like, so I can't even say it's about where music is today. I feel like it's what you're willing to do. I think he's willing to be a touring artist, but wants to give fans new music. To me, it really feels like most of these songs we got on Brown, he probably recorded within the last year and said, here.

SPEAKER_14 1:35:27

I mean, they do sound like it's songs that was recorded while he was on tour.

SPEAKER_08 1:35:31

Which is part of the problem. I don't think you ever can make a I don't I can't think of one artist that made a good album while on tour.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:35

What about Don't Tap the Glass?

SPEAKER_08 1:35:37

Not a good album to me. What? Yeah. He got two or three songs I really like. Uh Ring Ring Ring and Sugar on My Tongue and Sucker Free. Sucker Free Goes.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:47

What about Don't Play With Me?

SPEAKER_08 1:35:48

Stop playing with me. What? But I gave him that pass because Chromacobia was so good. That shit was fire. And I was like, he just dropped that. I get it. But I don't, I think it's very hard to make a good album while on tour. I also think why that's why that album was so short.

SPEAKER_07 1:36:03

Yeah. Well, he kinda, yeah, nah, he kinda come with a long ass album while on tour. That's OD.

SPEAKER_08 1:36:08

Yeah. And again, same thing I said with Drake. When I've been listening to it.

SPEAKER_14 1:36:10

I mean, that's the other thing. Like, the same thing I was saying about Drake, like, where you brainwash your fans. Chris kind of brainwashed his fans to go ahead and listen to 45 tracks on an album.

SPEAKER_08 1:36:20

Exactly, because I've been sick of that. After Heartbreak, I didn't want to like that. It should have been a rap.

SPEAKER_13 1:36:24

Heartbreak the Long has six.

SPEAKER_08 1:36:26

Heartbreak has good songs, but it's a playlistable album. I really call it like Chris Brown has like been mixtaping himself.

SPEAKER_11 1:36:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:36:33

All of these albums, I thought 1111, we were heading in the right direction. But then we took a step back with this new one. It feels like he's so comfortable in being like, just playlist the songs you like and let's move on.

SPEAKER_14 1:36:43

I don't care what anybody says. Heartbreak is probably his best album to date.

SPEAKER_08 1:36:48

Nah.

SPEAKER_14 1:36:49

In my opinion.

SPEAKER_08 1:36:50

It's hard to really digest that album properly. I love fame.

SPEAKER_14 1:36:53

So I'm a that's mine. I mean, fame is always going to be the best, like, quote unquote album because it's the album after everything happened. It's the album that brought you back to the mainstream. And it's just a goodness. And won you a Grammy. It's a great album.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:08

Oh, you won a Grammy off that too?

SPEAKER_08 1:37:09

He did. That was the first one. Yeah. And then he didn't get another one until 11-11, I believe, right?

SPEAKER_14 1:37:14

Uh, I believe so. Yeah. I believe so. But Heartbreak, I feel as though that's it.

SPEAKER_08 1:37:21

That's his best intro to me.

SPEAKER_14 1:37:24

Heartbreak? I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_08 1:37:27

Heartbreak, that's not the intro? Never mind. Boston found his. I'm about to say, I don't know about it. Heartbreak, the title track on I thought that was the intro. That's a good song. That's a good title track. Heartbreak on a full moon.

SPEAKER_14 1:37:37

Like, if we're if we're really talking about like good intros, like, where the fuck is it? Because this is acting fucking stupid.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:45

Heartbreak had 45 and this one had 57.

SPEAKER_08 1:37:48

Yeah, that was the deluxe, right?

SPEAKER_07 1:37:50

I kind of tapped, I'm like, bro, this is crazy.

SPEAKER_14 1:37:52

This is his best intro. Yes. I don't care what anybody says.

SPEAKER_08 1:37:54

Yeah, yeah, this is a good one.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:57

This was one of my favorite albums. I got goosebumps right now.

SPEAKER_08 1:38:00

To me, that's his last really great album.

SPEAKER_14 1:38:03

Yo, I got goosebumps just here in that area energy.

SPEAKER_08 1:38:08

That's not one of my favorite albums by him.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:10

Nah, not at all.

SPEAKER_14 1:38:11

I too. I love royalty. Royalty is a room.

SPEAKER_08 1:38:15

He wanna have a different opinion so that.

SPEAKER_14 1:38:17

No, but anyway, anyway, anyway, anyway, anyway, anyway.

SPEAKER_08 1:38:23

Anyway, back to Brown, right?

SPEAKER_14 1:38:25

I don't, I don't feel like it's a bad album because I feel like it's more just a mature Chris. And I feel as though that I have to judge it differently, but at the same time, it's harder for me to judge it at this very moment. At this very moment, I think it's a better album than I initially thought. However, it's also something that I gotta listen to five years from now when I'm in my mid-30s, and be like, all right, maybe it was good, maybe it wasn't. Like Brown, I have a lot of complexities with.

SPEAKER_08 1:38:59

I don't mind sitting with an album and then my opinion changes. I think though, this is the first time I've never really wanted to return to one of his works. Like that's how disappointed I was with the work. Um, there are about only a few songs I let rock.

SPEAKER_14 1:39:14

I do hate with Crystal. Like, there are some albums that are just like niggas will hate it. And then it's probably like one of his most underrated projects later. Like Breezy.

SPEAKER_08 1:39:24

Yeah, we we talked about that.

SPEAKER_14 1:39:26

Yeah, we had that conversation a lot where it's like, yeah, you say Breezy's alright, but a lot of niggas hate Breezy Bowl.

SPEAKER_08 1:39:31

Yeah, a lot of a lot of his fan base, so much so that when he did Breezy Bowl, he performed one song off of that. That was iffy, and I feel like that was one of the worst songs right that out.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:39

He didn't do call me every day?

SPEAKER_14 1:39:41

No, not on every, I don't think he did it on every yeah, like you gotta realize this nigga's catalog is huge, bro.

SPEAKER_08 1:39:47

So it's like when he knows his fans don't like something, like I really do think he's gonna rush and drop a deluxe before the tour, but I won't be surprised if there's not a whole lot of the new songs on the RB sort of.

SPEAKER_14 1:39:58

Oh, he posted on his story yesterday that a deluxe is on the city.

SPEAKER_08 1:40:00

Yeah, but I knew that even when he did his reaction to Pitchfork and he said we got more stuff coming. I'm like, he's gonna drop a deluxe.

SPEAKER_14 1:40:05

Also, who the fuck is Pitchfork?

SPEAKER_08 1:40:08

Pitchfork, I take I take all of these people with a grain of salt.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:40:11

Yo, um, I don't I don't really care about all these like even with films, I don't care about movie reviewers, I don't care about actual like companies that review music. It's just the fact that regardless if you don't like an album or like an artist, unless the shit is really a 1.5, do not rate that shit a 1.5. That's just disrespectful.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:33

Yeah, that's a disrespectful.

SPEAKER_08 1:40:35

I thought it was kind of funny, I'm not gonna lie. I'm sorry, it was a little funny. It was a little funny, and I think too, like people get upset, but like back then, that's how like ruthless they were with reviews. And I think sometimes you have to hold these artists' feet to the fire and be like, yo, you're not like outcast roses. Like, your shit stinks sometimes. Like, sometimes what you put out is not gold, and sometimes it sucks to hear you may not like the delivery. I don't care. I don't care. Do all that, I don't care, I don't care. You may not like someone's delivery, but sometimes you need to humble an artist and be like, yo, this wasn't your strongest work. Come back with something better.

SPEAKER_14 1:41:12

I want y'all to know she just did that because of the fact we was listening to this. Whatever, whatever, whatever.

SPEAKER_08 1:41:20

Man, you should bro, don't act like that wasn't a bar. He's mad. He's mad I said it first. Thank you, thank you, thank you. See what I'm saying? Get out of here. Get him tight. I like this.

SPEAKER_11 1:41:30

Niggas. But you know I'm right.

SPEAKER_08 1:41:34

Like you may think 1.5 is harsh, and that's fine. Like, that's your opinion. But I do think sometimes these artists need like a like a reality check. Because sometimes they just surround themselves with yes men, yeah, or their fans gassed them up, and sometimes you just need to be told, hey, this wasn't great, go back to the drawing board.

SPEAKER_07 1:41:47

Yeah, but it felt like somebody who didn't like Chris Brown reviewed that shit.

SPEAKER_08 1:41:52

I'm sure it was. That happens a lot. Because like even with Drake's, one of them reviewed, it was different writers. One put Maid of Honor up high, different writer, another one put Iceman up low. So it's depending on who's a fan of what work.

SPEAKER_13 1:42:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:42:06

And some of these journalists don't know how to be um objective.

SPEAKER_14 1:42:10

I feel as though that a lot of opinion in uh yeah, I'm about to say music, music is so just objective that it's it's like you can't even really get a fair review or fair talk about any of it.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:23

Yeah, it's hard.

SPEAKER_14 1:42:24

Especially when it first comes out. Like everybody's rushing to it because of the fact that it just came out. Like, even with Iceman and shit, I told Rich immediately, I was just like, yo, I don't think we should do this shit this weekend.

SPEAKER_13 1:42:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:42:36

Like off rip. Like I heard it and I was just like, if I go in there this weekend, I'm going to shit on it worse than Pitchfork did with fucking Chris Brown. You know what I'm saying? I was like, I didn't lie.

SPEAKER_08 1:42:47

I was like, what? Yeah, sometimes you really have to sit before you react so quickly. I do agree with that. But I but like I'm I'm pretty firm in my stance with Brown, unfortunately. Like like unfortunately.

SPEAKER_07 1:42:58

Like I'm standing on it.

SPEAKER_08 1:43:00

Unfortunately. I really wanted to like this album, but it just wasn't for me.

SPEAKER_07 1:43:06

Now, if he could have did this pose on uh maybe Heartbreak or maybe X.

SPEAKER_14 1:43:14

So I'm not gonna lie, I mean I have so much bias with Heartbreak, but like Heartbreak's like my favorite album, my favorite cover.

SPEAKER_08 1:43:22

Props to you for being able to digest that many songs.

SPEAKER_14 1:43:25

You wanna know what happened? I think it came out on Halloween, the year that it came out. And when I tell you, like I had class at 7 a.m., it did. I heard the whole shit twice. Dang it. Like I heard it when it came out at midnight, up until like 3 a.m. and then I heard it again. Dang.

SPEAKER_08 1:43:42

I had to split that up. I listened to half of it at midnight and half of it when I none of that shit phases me.

SPEAKER_14 1:43:46

I never finished it.

SPEAKER_08 1:43:50

You know what? That's fair. It's a lot.

SPEAKER_07 1:43:55

I was like, yo, this is a lot.

SPEAKER_08 1:43:56

Yeah. You get to a point where it's like, alright, I've heard 20 songs. I'll I'll say I'll rock with the ones I've heard, and the other ones come across my radar. Cool. It's hard to digest a lot of music like that.

SPEAKER_07 1:44:05

Damn, that's the same with Dream.

SPEAKER_14 1:44:06

Can we give it up for this though? Oh can we give it up for this though? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You hating on this.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:16

Let it play, let it play. Maybe I'll just do that. Let me see. For the moment.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:52

What's my name? I wanna get another one.

SPEAKER_09 1:46:14

Oh, this is a Friday record, right? This is lucky. This is lucky.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:43

You mad when I'm late.

SPEAKER_09 1:46:46

This is like my third time hearing it. I was like, I need another mind.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:49

He might have got smoked. I ain't gonna lie.

SPEAKER_08 1:46:53

Nah, I agree.

SPEAKER_14 1:46:54

That's unfair though. Lucky day. Lucky day is crazy.

SPEAKER_08 1:46:57

He's a stronger singer, too, so like it's not gonna be hard for him. Yeah. You know what I mean? Um, I would have loved to hear like an album in that vein.

SPEAKER_07 1:47:07

I think I would have expected the album mostly to sound like this.

SPEAKER_08 1:47:10

Based off the cover, yeah. Yeah. It's like a bait and switch he kind of did with that cover, I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_14 1:47:15

That's what I was saying. Like, because of the cover, because of the expectation, because of everybody and their fucking mother using this cover this year. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like it's one of those things, like, yo.

SPEAKER_08 1:47:27

I think a lot of people were like, it's the Michael effect, with the Michael movie being out, and a lot of people just Yeah, and I felt like that was kind of his biggest flaw because I get it.

SPEAKER_14 1:47:35

Like, if you did it this year, it would make more sense. If you did it two years ago, niggas was gonna hate you anyway. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:47:44

Yeah, but like, I would have loved an album in that vein. You know? And I think, you know, maybe next go around, let's try to trim some of the fat from some of these albums.

SPEAKER_14 1:47:55

I don't think he's ever I don't think he's ever done drama.

SPEAKER_07 1:47:58

I'm not gonna but I'm not gonna lie to you. If we get a Chris album with like old time tropes where they do like nine, ten, eleven.

SPEAKER_08 1:48:07

I don't think he's capable of that right now.

SPEAKER_07 1:48:09

That shit would be out the fucking park. Like drop the deluxe later, right?

SPEAKER_08 1:48:14

I agree with you. Uh I don't think he's in a space right now where he can, I think, do that. Yeah. Uh unfortunately. It's like Drake, I don't think he doesn't is in a space where he can put out a 10-song rap classic, as they say.

SPEAKER_11 1:48:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:48:27

Um I would love that, but yeah, I think a lot of artists are having that issue with trimming.

SPEAKER_07 1:48:34

Now you think it's because of I know it's because of streaming, but you think it's also because of a fandom, like you just gave us 10 songs or something.

SPEAKER_08 1:48:42

I think it's a mix of both. I've seen a lot of his fans complaining. Yeah, it's mostly streaming, but I don't think it's benefiting him anymore because the first week's sales for this weren't like large.

SPEAKER_14 1:48:51

I don't even know what the first week's sales were. 63?

SPEAKER_08 1:48:54

Damn.

SPEAKER_07 1:48:55

I mean, that's not bad.

SPEAKER_14 1:48:56

I mean, compared to his last album. What was that? Do you remember?

SPEAKER_08 1:49:01

I don't remember what the oh breezy was no no 1111.

SPEAKER_14 1:49:04

1111.

SPEAKER_08 1:49:05

I think it may have sold under what this sold, but I could be wrong.

SPEAKER_07 1:49:08

It sold 44. Brown sold 67, and Breezy sold 72.

SPEAKER_08 1:49:13

I remember Breezy because of the Indigo did 108. I think Indigo was like his higher. Man, don't do that.

SPEAKER_14 1:49:20

I'm not a fan of Indigo.

SPEAKER_07 1:49:21

I like Indigo. Damn, bro was doing numbers. Chris Brown, the first album was 154. Exclusive 290.

SPEAKER_08 1:49:26

Well, that was pre. 294, yeah. That makes sense.

SPEAKER_07 1:49:29

Fame was 270. I think that's his highest level.

SPEAKER_08 1:49:32

Yeah, that makes sense because that's the one. If you don't like any other Chris Brown album, you probably like that one. I love that shit. Yeah, to me, that's the best. Yo, and then like coming behind it with Fortune, because that was supposed to be a double album, fame at the same time. And then he broke, yeah. But the label's like, we don't know if you're ready for that yet. Let's put out fame first, see how that does, and then you can do fortune.

SPEAKER_14 1:49:49

And if that shit would have came out as a double album, who? That would have been insane.

SPEAKER_07 1:49:52

Yeah, fame and fortune. I kind of treat it like a double album.

SPEAKER_08 1:49:55

Because it is. Like, I think fortune is like the other side of it with a different sound. It's more. Interesting. Interesting.

SPEAKER_14 1:50:01

I think I was talking to I think it was you that said it too, Kayla, where I was like even with X, because if I'm really breaking it down, I think X is his best album. Well, I think X between X, Heartbreak, and Fame, those are like his three best solid albums. Now with X X just ended up being super underrated because he went to jail. He had two years where he was supposed to drop it and then he didn't drop it. And he was like, Oh, yeah, there was a delay.

SPEAKER_08 1:50:34

But I think he had gotten out of jail at that point.

SPEAKER_07 1:50:36

But he kept releasing the songs because I remember that Leah came out, Fine China came out fine.

SPEAKER_08 1:50:41

And he did like a little mini mixtape of like X-Files, which I wasn't crazy about anymore. I didn't listen to it either. There was one song where like him him and Ree broke up for the final time. Um I forgot what it's called.

SPEAKER_07 1:50:53

I'm gonna look for it. I know what song you're talking about.

SPEAKER_08 1:50:55

I can't win. I can't win. That's the name of the song. That was like the one good song from that release.

SPEAKER_14 1:51:00

So I thought the last song that they did together was Nobody's Business.

SPEAKER_08 1:51:03

No, no, that this was like the song he made when they fine when they broke up the final time.

SPEAKER_14 1:51:07

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_08 1:51:09

Because the X is like a about a mix of both Ree and Karuchi, because he was kind of seeing them both, I think. Maybe. Um, and so I think X was a mix of songs about the both of them. And maybe it's the Muse. Maybe he doesn't have a good muse anymore. Karuchi was the muse for a long time.

SPEAKER_14 1:51:23

I mean, he seems like he's in a happier spot in like he has all four of his kids now.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:29

Oh yeah, he just had a new kid. Damn. Damn.

SPEAKER_07 1:51:33

I just know about his daughter. I'm like mentioned, I'm like, his daughter is a big thing.

SPEAKER_08 1:51:36

Listen to Henny and a honey and Henny in a honey pack, and it makes sense. He's got all RB singing. Like, but sometimes, like like I hate to be that person, but sometimes your muse does matter.

SPEAKER_12 1:51:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:51:53

Like I see a lot of people critique uh like Justin Bieber and saying, Oh, some of the music hasn't been hitting because all the good ones are about Selena Gomez. Like sometimes your muse does matter. I heard the way um you know, or sometimes it just matters where you are in life. And sometimes when people, when artists get out of a bad situation and they're happier, sometimes they don't know how to make like good music under like a happy feeling. Some artists struggle with that.

SPEAKER_14 1:52:15

It's always good and under duress, but I will say though, Chris, if you're listening to this podcast at any point, I want that hard drive, bro. I want that hard drive with like 8,000.

SPEAKER_08 1:52:25

Yo, wait, yeah, let me see the the hard drive. Let me be your AR for an album action. I feel like let me pick some some joints for you.

SPEAKER_07 1:52:33

Skim the fat.

SPEAKER_14 1:52:35

I wasn't saying all that. I just want to hear all 50,000. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:52:38

Give Donnie Give Donnie the hard drive for that.

SPEAKER_14 1:52:41

I'll give it back. Like, I'm not gonna leak it. He ain't giving it back. You know what I'm saying? He ain't giving it back.

SPEAKER_08 1:52:44

He's not gonna leak it.

SPEAKER_14 1:52:46

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_08 1:52:46

You shut up, he's not gonna leak it, but he's not giving it back.

SPEAKER_07 1:52:49

He's not giving it back. He's gonna be listening to it dolo. Exactly. Knowing him, he's gonna you're gonna get in his car back. What's this? Well, you ain't hear that unreleased Chris Brown?

SPEAKER_08 1:52:56

Right, you ain't on gang. That's on you.

SPEAKER_09 1:52:58

Shouldn't have been talking shit.

SPEAKER_14 1:53:01

That's like me looking over to this nigga, like, yo, I don't know if you're, but um, Kaylani reposted us. Anyway.

SPEAKER_09 1:53:08

We love you, Kaylani.

SPEAKER_08 1:53:10

Shout out to Kaylani. That's Kaylani.

SPEAKER_07 1:53:14

No, no, no, no, no. I ain't gonna lie to you. I wasn't, I wasn't expecting Kaylani to have a better album than Chris Brown this year.

SPEAKER_08 1:53:23

That's facts. Let's be real, it was a better album.

SPEAKER_14 1:53:25

It was Kaylani's album was great.

SPEAKER_08 1:53:27

See, I've been a Kaylani fan, as Donnie knows. Like for me, it was good until it wasn't, was like the album.

SPEAKER_07 1:53:33

And I feel like that's the shit I was just saying.

SPEAKER_08 1:53:35

Yeah, it was the album, and I feel like I'm not ready to say that Kaylani is better than it was good until it wasn't, because it's still new and fresh. I'm gonna see how it ages against it. But I feel like for a long time.

SPEAKER_14 1:53:45

That shit is gonna age like Juan, yo. It might.

SPEAKER_08 1:53:48

I just don't want to jump the gun.

SPEAKER_14 1:53:49

I get it.

SPEAKER_08 1:53:50

I don't want to jump the gun.

SPEAKER_14 1:53:51

But the reason why I say it's gonna age like one, because like it sounds different than what she's been doing before. It does.

SPEAKER_08 1:53:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:53:57

But it also sounds like that early 2000s.

SPEAKER_08 1:54:00

It does, and that's I feel like that's all of our bags.

SPEAKER_14 1:54:02

And that shit's just gonna last for like another.

SPEAKER_08 1:54:06

Yeah, and I feel like that that T Pain and uh that T-Payne and Little John feature was for like the 2000s kids for sure. That was like in the in the bag of yeah, you know what I mean? And lovers and friends.

SPEAKER_14 1:54:16

Oh, wait, you're saying that album's her boss?

SPEAKER_07 1:54:18

Oh, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_14 1:54:19

No, because I fuck with that album heavy.

SPEAKER_07 1:54:21

This was the album that made me kind of obsessed with her for a little. The sweet the sweet, sexy savage. Yeah, because she had one song on there. Is it uh Crazy and Distraction?

SPEAKER_08 1:54:31

Yeah, distraction. I knew that was what you were gonna say. That's a good one. For me, it was her mixtape, you should be here.

SPEAKER_07 1:54:36

That's what really yeah, with chance. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:54:41

See, we we come back. I like old chance. I'm not talking about I'm not talking about you.

SPEAKER_14 1:54:49

Me and this nigga's been arguing for weeks.

SPEAKER_08 1:54:54

I don't wanna Yeah, I like up until coloring book, I think, for me. I don't like coloring books. You don't like coloring books.

SPEAKER_07 1:54:59

I don't like coloring books. This nigga don't know game. I love acid rap though. I'll take acid rap.

SPEAKER_08 1:55:04

You really, you really should return to the coloring book. Like that, don't do that.

SPEAKER_07 1:55:08

It just it was so it was Starline?

SPEAKER_08 1:55:12

I didn't give Starlight a chance because I think I'm just not for like he's not for me anymore.

SPEAKER_07 1:55:17

I didn't give it a chance and I need to because he's rapping in there. He's really, really rapping, but he should have been rapping. He should have been rapping.

SPEAKER_08 1:55:26

That intro, Donnie played the intro for Star uh Starline. Is that what the album's called? That was actually pretty nice. I wasn't gonna lie. I like the intro.

SPEAKER_07 1:55:32

You'll be surprised. You're like, oh, he's really speaking some shit.

SPEAKER_08 1:55:36

Do you think it's too late for him now?

SPEAKER_14 1:55:37

Do you think people care enough outside of his I I I feel like he kind of getting like pushed to a corner because if it wasn't for the big day, yeah, he would have been fun.

SPEAKER_08 1:55:46

And I like the big day upon first listen, but then when I went back to it, I just that shit was corny. Yo, I liked it on first because I was so excited that he finally put out his debut. So I was so excited. So yeah, so I was so excited, and then I went back to it and I was like, maybe not.

SPEAKER_07 1:56:01

On everything I remember, I was like, hot damn hot water, hot shower. And then two days later, I was like, What the fuck was that? I was like made in Tokyo and the baby. I'm like, what now?

SPEAKER_08 1:56:12

I love my wife.

SPEAKER_07 1:56:14

Yo, once the meme started flying, it was cooked. It was cooked. He should have been like, he should have been like, he should just threw his wife down, so that I hate her. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_14 1:56:23

No, he shouldn't be like, I mean, technically, he kind of.

SPEAKER_08 1:56:26

Yeah, they're not together anymore, right?

SPEAKER_07 1:56:28

And that's what I hate, bruh. Don't, don't prop, don't prop up the big day and then cheat on your wife. You can't do that, bro.

SPEAKER_14 1:56:35

Nigga, he's an Aries.

SPEAKER_08 1:56:37

Get the fuck out of here with that.

SPEAKER_14 1:56:39

I don't know how Aries are.

SPEAKER_08 1:56:41

No more Aries for me. I'm triggered. Nigga, I'm an Aries. Triggered.

SPEAKER_07 1:56:44

That would do that. It's always that one sign. They're like, I'm good off the pod.

SPEAKER_08 1:56:48

Yeah, I'm good.

SPEAKER_14 1:56:48

Yeah, I wonder how many niggas just heard I'm an Aries and turned off the pod. I wanna know.

SPEAKER_08 1:56:53

I'm not gonna say what I am. They're really gonna turn off the pod. I don't want to do y'all like that.

SPEAKER_07 1:56:57

Mine is hated. I don't know what it is.

SPEAKER_14 1:57:00

I'm neutralized.

SPEAKER_08 1:57:01

I'm Gemini.

SPEAKER_07 1:57:02

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm an Aquarius. She can only watch a side. No, niggas hate Aquarius. Since when?

SPEAKER_08 1:57:07

I love Aquarius. Since when?

SPEAKER_07 1:57:08

Some of them love them, but I feel like they have been heartbroken by Aquarius where they're like, I hate them. They don't know.

SPEAKER_14 1:57:14

I told you what it was. Like, it's not even that Aquarius' are the problem. Y'all just are too fucking friendly.

SPEAKER_08 1:57:20

What's wrong with that? That might be. Here's the thing.

SPEAKER_14 1:57:23

It's not, it's not, it's not bad. It's not bad as like a self-portrait of yourself.

SPEAKER_08 1:57:27

Yeah, it depends on who you're dealing with.

SPEAKER_14 1:57:29

Exactly. Because there's some people that are just like, yo, you're just way too nice. Like you're not even on my level for how nice you are. Like it's not you. You feel me? Like, that's why I mean you work so well, because it's like you're so fucking nice, and I'm such an asshole, but we kind of we kind of just meet in the middle. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_08 1:57:46

I love Aries, but like air and fire, I think it is, just does not. It starts out cool, but it burns too hot.

SPEAKER_14 1:57:54

Air and fire. My wife's an air sign.

SPEAKER_08 1:57:56

Oh, is she? What's her sign? Libra. Libra. I love Libras. I don't like Libras.

SPEAKER_07 1:58:00

I ain't gonna lie. I got a few Libra friends that I'm so close with, but I love Libras.

SPEAKER_14 1:58:06

I love Libras, but they when they flake out.

SPEAKER_07 1:58:10

Oh yeah, you'll see that shit coming a mile away, though.

SPEAKER_14 1:58:13

It's like, bro, yo, it's like a snowflake that just like come down and you try to catch it with your tongue, but then that shit just vanish. You don't know where that shit went. It's every time, bro.

SPEAKER_08 1:58:21

Scorpios deserve the bad rap.

SPEAKER_14 1:58:23

Also, audience, my wife is here and she just gave me the depth stair. So stop talking about Libras.

SPEAKER_13 1:58:29

Moving on.

SPEAKER_07 1:58:31

So you could be in trouble when you get home.

SPEAKER_08 1:58:34

Do you have any more thoughts on Brown, though?

SPEAKER_07 1:58:38

Uh nah. Nah. I don't think so. So now that you don't, play this song when you get your grips on the game.

SPEAKER_09 1:58:44

I think I ranged. I mean I ranged on his parade.

SPEAKER_14 1:58:48

But like I am, I am gonna end off this whole Chris Brown shit with this, because this song is timeless. I don't care what nobody says. This shit is fucking timeless.

SPEAKER_07 1:59:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_14 1:59:02

Don't look don't look at it like that, Kayla.

SPEAKER_08 1:59:05

I'm keeping it, I'm gonna keep my shit. I didn't give this a chance when it first came out. Let me see how I feel about it now. It's been a minute.

SPEAKER_07 1:59:20

The coy's gotta take off if he's doing this.

SPEAKER_05 1:59:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:35

Actually, this isn't as bad as I thought.

SPEAKER_14 1:59:39

That's my problem with this nigga, bro. Because like, there's songs that I truly, truly, truly hate off this like obvious.

SPEAKER_09 1:59:47

I like obvious.

SPEAKER_14 1:59:48

That's one of the songs I like that. Fucking song.

SPEAKER_08 1:59:53

It did have to grow on me, though.

SPEAKER_14 1:59:54

Yo, it's it do you really want me to?

SPEAKER_08 1:59:56

Yes. That's I like it.

SPEAKER_07 1:59:58

I'm like half and half right now. Like once.

SPEAKER_08 2:00:00

It's one of those songs where when you first hear it, it's boring, but then the more you let it rock, you're like, oh, it's a kind of a groove, you know. And maybe come on, that talk box right there. Come on.

SPEAKER_14 2:00:09

Normal Chris Brown sound to start off.

SPEAKER_08 2:00:12

So he's saying that about this, but then my but I was doing too much.

SPEAKER_07 2:00:16

Nah, this is I like the way this See?

SPEAKER_08 2:00:19

Come on. Uh Chris Brown run. Come on, don't do that. Uh, come on.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:28

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_08 2:00:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 2:00:30

You know how we ride two bad bitches on pizza. So baby, let me turn that to be side.

SPEAKER_14 2:00:40

That's like the equivalent of iffy to me.

SPEAKER_08 2:00:43

No, it's not. Don't do that. Iffy is a worse-sounding version of I Can Transform Ya. Totally two different vibes. Play Iffy right now.

SPEAKER_07 2:00:50

Yeah, we're now wanna hear Iffy. Don't do that. Don't do that. See a gotta audience. I started, so I did like this video.

SPEAKER_08 2:00:56

Obvious, I can rock with. Again, when I first heard it, I thought it was a little boring, but then it grew on me.

SPEAKER_14 2:01:01

Agata audience. I fucking hate this song.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:04

I hate iffy.

SPEAKER_14 2:01:05

So unless you want me to play this, but it's a good one.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:08

Because for you to compare those vibes isn't saying that.

SPEAKER_14 2:01:10

Only like the dancing robot.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:12

Oh, I remember this song. This song sucks. But I'm telling you to you, you can't compare this to obvious. They sound nothing like. This sounds like a worse version of I Can Transform You.

SPEAKER_07 2:01:21

Even I Can Transform You, I'm tired of. I think because Graffiti was abusing it, it was it's a radio song.

SPEAKER_08 2:01:26

It's it's dated, it's a dated sound. I get why you don't rock with I Can Transform You Now.

SPEAKER_14 2:01:29

But the thing is, like, even some, I mean, that's another thing with graffiti. Like, Graffiti was great sounding at the time. Yeah, it's dated, but there's certain songs that thrive off of graffiti.

SPEAKER_08 2:01:41

Yeah, it's not one of my favorites from him for sure.

SPEAKER_14 2:01:45

Oh man. Sorry, sorry, we gotta. Sorry, Breezy. She she said, fuck my shit, bro.

SPEAKER_09 2:01:52

Listen, you said fuck my shit.

SPEAKER_14 2:01:54

But like I still fuck with you, Breezy. If you want to if you want to send over that hard drive.

SPEAKER_09 2:01:58

Here he go.

SPEAKER_14 2:01:59

You know what I'm saying? I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna leak your shit. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_08 2:02:02

We'll be friends after this guy.