First Wear Podcast
Real sneaker stories. No hype. From your first wear to the culture’s biggest moments, First Wear Podcast takes you behind the counter, behind the releases, and into the real side of sneaker life.
Hosted by @EdotREEP, we dive into the moments that matter — first wears, campouts, raffles, retail nightmares, resell culture, and how sneakers truly shape the community. Whether you’re a sneakerhead, a curious collector, or just someone who loves the culture, there’s something here for you.
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Your Grail Is Valid: Breaking Down Sneakerhead Gatekeeping
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What truly makes a sneaker a “grail”?
As the sneaker community continues to debate this, Episode 4 of the First Wear Podcast dives into the personal meaning of sneaker grails — and challenges the gatekeeping that often surrounds them.
For many sneakerheads, grails represent the ultimate goal — a pair that blends emotional connection, personal history, and sometimes high resell value. We explore whether a grail has to be rare, hyped, or expensive… or if it just has to mean something to you.
👟 From the silver Kobe 2s to the Nike Air Mags, Red October Yeezys, and Paris Dunks, we unpack what makes a sneaker iconic — and why your grail doesn’t need validation from the community to matter.
We also look at how generational shifts affect this: why younger collectors view the Black Cat 4s (now hitting $1,000 resale) with the same reverence older heads had for OG Jordans.
🎙️ Plus, we introduce Solecial Hour — our new community segment. This week’s question:
“What’s the order of how you get dressed? Shoes first or outfit first?”
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🧩 Topics Covered:
- What is a grail sneaker?
- Emotional value vs hype value
- Sneaker resell culture
- Personal storytelling in sneakers
- Kobe 2s, Nike Mags, Red Octobers, Black Cat 4s
- Generational shifts in sneaker culture
- Community Q&A via Solecial Hour
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Podcast Intro and Growing Audience
Speaker 1Hey , welcome back to First Word Podcast . I am your host . Edyreep , episode 4 , we're here . It's been a fun road so far . I appreciate y'all for rocking with me . I want to say we're up to 27 or 28 downloads like in total through the first three episodes . I'm not sure how that stacks up with like a new podcast , a new indie podcast or that , and like not a lot of buzz surrounding it , so that 27 might be an insanely low number . But hey , I wasn't expecting anything for the first like two months , so hey , I'll take anything I can get . So appreciate y'all for all your support and rocking with me thus far .
Speaker 1So , episode 3 we did talk about resale , like the resale culture . Who's to blame ? And we're all at fault . So we have to take part in our you know , in our actions with the resale game . But yeah , shout out to the sneaker teacher once again for that topic . So that's basically what my vision is and was for the podcast . That's the direction I want to keep trending towards . Of course , I'm going to have my own topic I want to come up with . I definitely value all community input . So if you have a certain topic or a certain question or anything you want to talk about or you want me to go over . Definitely drop those . In the dms the comment section . I have a link . Like I said you can . You can do it a little more in depth on the link tree , whatever , but let's go ahead and get into episode 4 and we're gonna talk about grails .
Speaker 1What's a grill ? Why do people covet certain shoes or items over others ? You know all that good stuff , because that's one of the main topics in the state community or the main discussions in the sneaker community is like the grill talk . Everybody has their
What Makes a Sneaker a Grail?
Speaker 1own definition and they like to police or govern what you can consider a grill and what's not a grill , which is crazy to me , but we're gonna get into it today . So we got three components of this particular topic you have .
Speaker 1What is a grill ? Why grills are personal , highly coveted is a particular item that , for the most part , is widely expensive . It's not gonna . Most grills aren't cheap . If you go by like the standard definition or like the standard qualifications of a grill , they're definitely going to be up there in price , which is , you know , another issue in itself . You know , once you get something like titled or characterized as a grill , then of course that's when the resale comes in , which is why those numbers on those grills are higher than the average shoe , because you know it goes back to . You know we create the market . Basically , if we say this is the end-all , be-all , then of course that's going to start circulating around and then somebody that has it say , okay , well , this is the item to have , this is the shoe to have . Then I'm going to sell it to the highest bidder and then that's how you get the high prices and everything and everything .
Speaker 1A lot of people I'm not included in this , but a lot of people feel like a newer release can't be considered a grill . But I personally believe that a grill is a personal , it's a preference . It's basically a preference like a personal story tied to it . It's subjective . At the end of the day , I don't think you can put a concrete definition or like a standard definition on what a grill is . You can have like certain qualifications , maybe , like certain criteria that it has to hit , but I don't think you can put like an end , all be all definition of okay , this is what a grill has to hit . But I don't think you can put like a end all be a definition of okay , this is what a grill has to be . Anything outside of this cannot be considered a grill because , like I said , grills are personal . You have to have .
Speaker 1I feel like a grill has to have some kind of emotional attachment or connection to it , whether it's
Why Grails Are Personal and Subjective
Speaker 1a shoe that , growing up , your favorite player wore , or as a shoe that maybe your siblings or your favorite uncle or somebody that you watched on tv always wore and you were never able to attain it for whatever reasons . Maybe your parents , you know , couldn't afford a particular shoe , maybe that the shoe was only in certain sizes , maybe it was like a women's size and only , or like a man's size , and as a child you know you couldn't fit the shoe . So even if you had the resources or ability to attain the shoe , you couldn't , for you know different reasons and you know , growing up you just always had that shoe . That was like your , the shoe that you always wanted , and I think you know the sentimental aspect of it is what really makes a grill for me , like . In my opinion , I think that is the highest form of , or the highest . How can I put this ? The sentimental value should be the only criteria for a grill in my eyes .
Speaker 1Like there are certain shoes like , for example , a recent pickup which you know I don't like to , I don't like to steer in that direction for my podcast , like that's not going to be half the segment , but yeah , just for a sake of argument or sake of an example the kobe 2 , the silver kobe 2s . That's one of my more recent pickups and that was a grill to me because growing up kobe's my favorite player , still my favorite player , the lakers are my favorite team , so that was one of those shoes that growing up I don't even remember like seeing them in a store . I don't remember seeing anybody wear them outside of kobe , like on the court . And even once I started like buying my own shoes , that wasn't a shoe that like popped up and like the , the sneaker groups or in resale shops or anything like that . It was like a shoe that I was just waiting for it to re-release . Maybe they did re-release in some capacity and I just missed it because working in , like working in retail , I've never came across that kobe 2 . Even now I had to order it online . I haven't seen them in any stores locally .
Speaker 1Anyway , like I said , it could be a regional thing . La probably has them all over the place or new york , but in virginia , the 757 specifically , I've never seen their shoe on any shelf , so that's considered a grail , because , one , I've always wanted it . Two , I had like a personal or emotional attachment to it because my favorite player wore them and I was never able to get them . As a child and leading up to adulthood I've never been able to , you know , attain it or the price was just too crazy , like I seen them on ebay , like a few different colorways , but they were either trashed , they were beat or , like I said , the price was too high . So , finally able to get them for retail and I would consider that a grill , if , if not the grill in my collection and you know a lot of people will say , you know that's not a grill that shouldn't be considered a grill because you actually have them , because a lot of people , a lot of sneakerheads , quote-unquote they feel like grills are something that you just aspire to have but you're never going to be able to get them , which I don't think that's the proper , the proper definition of it , like the proper qualification , because why would I say something as a girl if I know I can't get it ? Which , which I think that's weird to me .
Speaker 1I feel like Grails can be different things . That could be one of your Grails , might be a shoe that you're never able to get , but it can also be a shoe that you know is going to release in two years , if that makes sense , because a lot of PEs , a lot of people will consider PEs or player exclusives or samples to be grills like if they ever come out they want them like , maybe like the tokyo five that are dropping later on this year . I think they're
Famous Grails in Sneaker Culture
Speaker 1dropping the sample version . That's like the yellow toe and a lot of people might consider those grills . But you can actually get those for retail or you can try to get them for retail once they drop . But yeah , like I said , I think the grill thing is like a working definition and it should be unique to each individual .
Speaker 1You just can't put a blanket statement over what a grill is and what a grill isn't . I guess , like the common grills just off the top of my head , definitely Yeezys , like the Yeezy one , yeezy two , the Nike Yeezys , the red October joints , the Blinks , the Zen Graves I forgot what the tan joints were called , but yeah , I think those six pairs , you know , the three easy ones . The three easy twos definitely grills . The galaxy foams were definitely grills for a lot of people and I know a lot of a lot of people were happy when they re-released recently and they were able to get them for retail because those prices used to be outrageous the stuff that people were like trading to get those foams . I couldn't imagine doing some of that stuff .
Speaker 1Let's see , like the Paris dunks . I know that's , that's definitely what there's up there . Know what the dunks definitely a grill for a lot of people . Those are , you know , price wise . Those are like insane , the what the dunks and the pairs dunks are definitely up there . Um , those might be the exception to the Grails that you will never own category Because they actually did release . But the aftermarket form is just insane right now . Unless you want to dish out A good amount of money , you probably won't get those .
Speaker 1Any other grills that I can think of off the top of my head , maybe like the OG Jordan 1s , like Chicago's Brez , of course , black Cement 3s that's a grill for a lot of people . I know every time they drop , people get multiple pairs of those . The 11s could be a grill for , uh , you know some people I'm just trying to think of , like the widely accepted grills . That's all I could think of off the top of my head . To be honest , yeah , yeezys , the dunks , yeezys , certain Jordans , yeah , yeah , that's all I can think of . As far as the LeBrons , I know the , the Watch , the Throne LeBrons are definitely up there . Maybe the , the Championship LeBron 10s I don't think I don't . I don't believe they released . If they did , maybe the championship LeBron 10s . I don't believe they released it . If they did , I think it was very limited or something . It was another LeBron I can't think of it . Was it the LeBron 10 , the honey joints , the honeycomb joints ? That could be a grab for a lot of people .
Speaker 1I know the KD4s , kd4s , the uh pearls I think that was definitely one of mine the unpro kd4s , the galaxy kd4s I think the entire galaxy pack probably was on the grail list for a lot of people . But yeah , all the kd4s , I would say they , they had a good , uh good argument to be considered grails and then you know they came back and they're sitting on shelves and going on sale . So you know how that goes . So I definitely think you know grails are generational , because the shoes that I would consider a grill or , like the older generations , like the og sneaker heads that have been doing it since the 80s and 90s , their grails are definitely going to be different from the yns right now . You know , I'm saying like they're not going to consider the same shoes that we like or they're not going to covet the same shoes because , as you can see , we were hyped for the kd4s and you can get them from like 70 to 90 dollars depending on the color . And , like the yns , they want those black cat fours like , as you can see that I spoke about it episode three .
Speaker 1But the black Cat 4s I checked recently and they're up to $9.85 . They're like knocking on the door to be going for $1,000 . I never in a million years thought I would ever see a Black Cat 4 going for $1,000 . It's crazy . And for $1,000 I feel like you could say that that is a grill for some people . So this generation , their grill is the Black Cat 4 and you know , based on criteria like the , the standard criteria that was set before us or whatever , like that wouldn't be considered a grill .
Speaker 1But hey , if you have emotional attachment , you always wanted it , you've actively tried to get it for however many years , or whatever it is . That's your grill and they're going for $1,000 for a reason , and they're re for a thousand dollars for a reason , and they're re-releasing and a lot of people are excited . Um , I think there's going to be slight differences . So it's not going to be the exact black cat 4 that dropped in 2020 , and I don't think they were even the same the exact black 4 , black cat 4 that dropped to no six . There's like slight differences , I'm sure .
Speaker 1So , hey , generation to generation , man , your definition of a grill is going to be different . So keep it . Just keep it true to yourself , man . Keep it true to you , what you like , how you feel about it . Don't let anybody tell you your grill isn't a grill because , at the end of the day , your emotional attachment it could be a pair of white Air Forces , that can be your grill just because Some emotional attachment to whatever your story is on , why this ? You know saying it could be anything . Oh , I Don't know how I forgot this . You as a grill , of all grills , a holy grill , a widely accepted grill .
Speaker 1The air mag , the Nike air mag I feel like that is the most widely accepted grill across the sneaker community . I feel like everybody could agree on that being the like . That's probably like the holy grill , the Nike Air Mag , I know . Unless something crazy happens , which messing with Nike , nothing is out of the realm of possibility at this point . However , I highly doubt they're gonna do a release like an actual release , not like a limited or special release , like a full-on nike release of the nike air mag where the average consumer has even the slight
Air Mags: The Holy Grail
Speaker 1chance of owning a pair for retail . I don't think it's going to happen . If it does happen , I don't believe it'll be anytime soon , but that'd be one of those shoes that you know .
Speaker 1I consider that like a holy grail . That be one of those shoes that you know . I consider that like a holy grail . That's one of those shoes that I don't agree with this , but it is what it is . You want , like . You can do whatever you want with your shoes . So I know a lot of like the grails people tend to . They don't want to wear them for whatever you know what I'm saying Whatever their reason , their rationale is they don't want to wear them , they're scared to wear them , or they just buy them just to keep them in the case , or whatever , which you know . Like I said man , if you bought it , you can do whatever it is you want to do with it . It's your shoe . At the end of the day , nobody can tell you what to do with your purchase , nobody can tell you to do with your money and nobody can tell you what a grail is if you think otherwise . So this would be one of those shoes that I would definitely get like a special case for .
Speaker 1I definitely would have to put them on my feet . It'd have to be like a special occasion . I know certain shoes , when you break them out , it has to be like , you know the stars have to align and I'm cool with that . I know a lot of people say you know , wear your shoes . I'm all for wearing your shoes , but I can't say that certain pairs aren't meant for certain occasions .
Speaker 1For me , like I'm going to wear my shoes at some point , I will put my foot in them and rock them . They're going to hit dirt , hit dirt . They're gonna touch grass . But I'm not just gonna wear them to Harris Teeter . I'm not gonna go to Whole Foods or cinema cafe and throw on a crazy pair of shoes just to say I'll warm , just to say they're NDS . It's gonna have to be the right occasion and the air max would is one of those , definitely one of those . You know , it's like I'm gonna need to go somewhere where eyes are on me . You're gonna see that I have these air mags on . I didn't buy him for you , but I'm gonna wear them and let you know I got these on . That's the type of like caliber that shoe is , because , oh man , I can't even I couldn't fathom having a pair of air mags and I wouldn't even know what event or an occasion that would call for me to wear that that shoe , especially around here . I don't know , it'd have to be like an out-of-town mission or something I don't know .
Speaker 1But Nike if anybody from Nike stumbles upon this humble startup indie sneaker podcast centered around the culture and the topics important to the sneaker culture , if y'all do decide to drop them , don't hesitate to send them to the small creators . You know I'm saying we out here doing it for the people , for the love of the game . No money is being made from any of my videos personally . So you know you want to slide a size 12 , 12 and a half , whatever you can spare to your boy , hey , just let me know . You know we can work something up . I will make 100 videos if I have to to get those shoes , man , but yeah , like you know , just to wrap it all up , to tie it all together , because I feel like it's starting to get redundant at this point .
Speaker 1Like the grill , the Holy grill , whatever you want to call them is , is unique to each , to the person , is unique to each person , man . It's not an end all be all . Like I said before , definition of concrete definition of what a grill is , what it should be , as long as it meets certain criteria . If you think that you know is important enough or worthy enough to be considered a grill in your eyes , then it's a grill , and all the overheads , you know , my generation and the older generation included in that , since I I guess I'm old now stop telling people what they can and cannot buy and what they can call a grill and what they can't call a grill . Man , my grill is not your grill , your grill is not their grill . It's subjective at the end of the day , man , it is what it is just like . Like the fashion trends , you know you can't be mad at somebody for what they're wearing at this point . It's like come on , man , if it's not bothering you , it's not taking money out of your pocket or putting money in your pocket . Who cares ? Live your life .
Speaker 1So before I wrap this up , so before I wrap this up , I want to introduce a new segment to the podcast , which is going to be Social Hour . Social Hour , you know S-O-L-E , so you know like a play on the sneaker terms , you know what I'm saying which was definitely going to be the name of this podcast before I searched it and found out that I wasn't as clever as I thought I was . It's already a similar sneaker podcast . I want to say it's called social studies . Shout out to social studies
Social Hour: Getting Dressed Routine
Speaker 1. I think he's been doing it for a good minute , so he's he's had that name for a minute . And then there's also like an actual sewing podcast and it's social something , but you know scw . So I was like , yeah , it's too close for comfort for me . I need something that if you type my podcast name in , nobody else is gonna pop up . So social studies was definitely the one I really thought . I , I thought I had one with that , but I can do a segment . So social studies instead of the community-sent topic , submitting topics , because you know , some people may not want to do all that . You can just submit questions or like smaller topics or whatever not like full episodes and I will answer , you know , at the end .
Speaker 1So today's social hour question is what is the order of what you're going to wear ? So , like , when I'm getting dressed , do I go shoes first , clothes first , or whatever ? And I'm not going to lie to y'all , man , at first I was definitely a shoes first type of guy . Before I got older , and you know I had a job and work a certain amount of hours , I was definitely shoes first . I get a new pair of shoes . I didn't wait longer than a week , if that at one point , to wear my new shoes . So that was always both . I'm going out , okay , what's my new issue ? Boom , I'm throwing these on and go from there .
Speaker 1Now , since my free time is more limited , I don't wear shoes as often . I'm in steel toes a vast majority of the week . So when I do go out , it just , it just depends on the situation , depends on the vibe . Like if there's something new that I purchased clothing wise , like there's like a , a crazy piece that I got from , like an independent brand or something dope in general , I'm probably gonna lean towards , lean towards that piece and then go with the shoes afterwards , like if there's an older shoe that I wore a hundred times that hits better with that particular piece or with the fit , more than like a new pickup wood , I'm gonna go with the older shoe . I'm not just gonna like throw on anything for the sake of saying , put on a new shoe , and then there be times where I've had a shoe that I just feel like these need to see outside , like the world needs to see this particular shoe , then I'll go shoe first , but like it . Just , it just depends .
Speaker 1I don't have a set routine anymore like I used to . This depends on the vibe , depends on the occasion , depends on the weather too . You know , if I got a brand new pair of suede shoes and it's going to be raining or there's a good chance that it's going to rain throughout the day , I'm gonna go with something else . As bad as I want to wear that shoe , it's not worth it for me personally . Yeah , I have , you know , the spray , the protectants and all that , the cleaners . I have all that stuff . I know I can do what I need to do . But if I don't have to take that risk , personally , I'm not . I have enough shoes that you know I throw on a pair of leather shoes or something else . I don't need to potentially mess up a shoe and make more work for myself if I don't have to just for the sake of saying I threw a shoe on . But yeah , that is my long-winded answer .
Speaker 1Shout out to Ashley for the question , because I wasn't going to do like a full episode on that , because I feel like you know it was pretty easy to you know , throw that out there in like a few minutes or a few paragraphs . So that's where Social Hour was born From a submitted topic that I felt like wouldn't have been a full episode worth or worthy Social Hour . Boom , the question is here , it's answered . Hopefully you're listening and there we go with it . So , yeah , that's going to do it for episode 4 .
Speaker 1Man , I'm excited to see where this podcast goes . Hopefully the people that are listening now , y'all , continue to rock with it . Hopefully you're buying into the vision . I would love to see more topics flood in the inbox , or at least social hour questions , but I can't force you to do anything . I just hopefully , as you know , after a while you get comfortable and you want to , you know , be a more active listener or participant or whatever .
Speaker 1Like I said , it's a community podcast for the people , by the people . I'm just doing what I feel like will continue to grow the Stinger community . Man , if you have a voice , you want to be heard First Word Podcast is the place to do it . Trust me , I got y'all . Yeah , I've really been showing love on tiktok and ig . Man , I appreciate that . I want to say we're at like 43 or 44 followers on ig , 70 , 60 or 70 on tiktok , which is crazy to me .
Speaker 1I , like I said , I had low expectations and high hopes for the podcast . To be honest , I didn't think I would see any type of growth or like see any traction really until like episode 8 or 10 , which is like around two months , and to see the growth that I've seen so far , with only three live episodes and I'm recording this episode four now is like it's so crazy to me . Man , I really appreciate everyone , even if you've just been sharing certain posts , commenting , liking anything , telling something about it , even if you haven't had the chance to listen yet . I appreciate you for real . You haven't had the chance to listen yet . I appreciate you for real . And look , you can stream First Red Podcast on every podcast platform , whatever your preference is . You just type the name and we're in there . So yeah , catch y'all next week . Same time , same place . More community topics .
