Genesis 7:7-12

The flood of Noah and the waters from below and above, raining for 40 days. 

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Hi, this is Pastor Frank. And this is Luce. At Two Becomers One. We just want to welcome you to this episode and podcast. This particular one is our episode 26. 26. We're getting up there.

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So thank you everybody for sticking with us to this point. We started back in June.

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Mm-hmm.

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And here we are in March, you know, nine months later. So thank you for those that have listened from you know our very first episode until now.

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Okay, so today we're going to continue in the book of Genesis, chapter seven, and we're going to be going through verses seven through twelve. You want to read?

SPEAKER_01 0:39

Yes.

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Okay.

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Okay, um, but before I start reading, and just to recap on last week, that was um, you know, uh chapter seven, starting in verse one. Um basically it was when uh Noah and his family, you know, God invited Noah and his family into the ark, and they had to be there um for a week. You know, God told him to gather the clean animals, the unclean animals, you know, seven each of the clean ones, uh, two each of the unclean, and he announced to Noah and his family that it would be um he would make it rain on the earth for forty days and forty nights. And the amazing thing is that at that time uh rain as we know it today had never been heard of. But here we go, we'll go ahead and start in again chapter seven. We'll start with verse seven and read through twelve. Please take out your Bibles and follow along. So now we're going to continue on in chapter seven, take out your Bibles, and we're going to start at verse seven and then continue through uh through verse twelve. And it says, So Noah, with his sons, his wife, and his sons' wives, went into the ark because of the waters of the flood, of clean animals, of animals that are unclean, of birds, and of everything that creeps on the earth. Two by two they went into the ark to Noah, male and female, as God had commanded Noah. And it came to pass after seven days that the waters of the flood were on the earth, in the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep were broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened, and the rain was on the earth forty days and forty nights.

SPEAKER_00 2:22

So as we uh titled uh and the description of this last podcast we did, and the former verses that we did, um there are some things here we have I have to at least try to make clear when reading this. Um, first of all, Noah didn't write this.

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Right.

SPEAKER_00 2:43

Moses wrote it. So I want you to picture Moses as the stenographer for God. He's writing down chapter after chapter after chapter of of Genesis. So this is coming from oral tradition uh from the Israelites in Moses' writing this on a scroll. And so I just want people to understand when we're reading this, this is coming from a perspective of Noah's time, but writing it from the past and what what happened, and then in more his time, which would be more contemporary for him, is the reason why I think these uh the story of the narrative is a little more clear than what we would say how it was reiterated uh in the tr in the generations of the Israelites up to Noah or up from Noah to uh Moses. Right.

SPEAKER_01 3:42

Well, I mean you have to think too though, the way something is written has to do a lot also with that individual that's doing the writing.

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That's right.

SPEAKER_01 3:51

Their their background, their education, their um personality, their you know, it has a lot to do with whether how descriptive something is or not descriptive, or you know, maybe it's a little bit more dry or you know, a bit longer, shorter. You know, it just has a lot to do with that individual writer.

SPEAKER_00 4:10

True. So um the the it says here in verse 7 it says Noah with his sons, his wife and his son's wife, went into the ark because of the waters of the flood. Now, we know the flood is coming because God said it, but they went in there because they knew it was coming. It's not because the waters were there.

SPEAKER_01 4:32

Right. Well, God gave them that additional seven days to say, hey, in seven more days, that those floods are coming.

SPEAKER_00 4:39

Yes. And of it says of clean animals and unclean animals, birds, and every creeping thing on the earth, well, everything that creeps on the earth. Two by two. Now that's what you know, growing up I would hear, two of each animal. But we know as we read form formally it has there's seven in each of the clean animals and for the reasons we gave.

SPEAKER_01 5:00

Well, they probably went two by two into the ark. Oh, that's true. Because I would think that that would make it easier to kind of keep track of how many and what's what. You know what I'm saying? You know, I I just that's how I picture it, you know, for the the sake of orderliness.

SPEAKER_00 5:19

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 5:19

But it says very specifically in the previous verses that of the clean animals, seven each, the birds, seven each, the unclean animals, two each. But it also says male and female. That's right. So but so they could have gone into the ark two by two.

SPEAKER_00 5:38

Speaking about order, it says the the Bible describes the ark as having multiple decks. And I would imagine that animals that are going on would have, of course, animals that are a little bit larger would have the more larger stalls or partitions, whatever have you. And then, of course, the smaller animals, so on and so forth, but I would imagine that the heavier animals be on bottom. Yeah. Bottom decks. Yeah, I can't imagine them being on top. And then not only that, but this is something that I I thought of after you know studying this, is that at this point in time, after you know Adam and Eve had sinned, had come into the world, uh, I would imagine that animals at that point had predator and prey.

SPEAKER_01 6:28

Yeah, because well, in order for Adam and Eve to even live with those animals in the first place, they would have had to have not had their ferocious demeanor and been more been peaceful, been calm. But then the fall of man came, everything changed. That's right. So, and when I mean when I mean everything, and that includes the animals, and again, like you said, then it turned into predator and prey.

SPEAKER_00 6:58

And not only just um animal to animal, predator to humans.

SPEAKER_01 7:04

Right. Exactly. Even though we have dominion over them, that's right, but they're still ferocious to humankind.

SPEAKER_00 7:12

So in this case, I would see this as miraculous because in the beginning, when Adam named all the animals, the state of their um existence was not predator and prey. No, it was peaceful, right? And so God allowed not only the animals to be handled by humans, taken care by humans, right, not to attack humans or to each other.

SPEAKER_02 7:36

Right.

SPEAKER_00 7:37

There's something that that happened there, and it was almost like a return to Eden with for the animals of some sort. In a way. In a way, yeah. And uh I think there's uh a verse that I think you had.

SPEAKER_01 7:50

Yeah, there is. Um it's a scripture, and it is in the book of Isaiah, it's chapter eleven, starting at verse six through verse nine. And it says The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the young goat, and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together, and a little child shall lead them, the cow and the bear shall graze, their young ones shall lie down together, and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. The nursing child shall play by the cobra's hole, and the weaned child shall put his hand in the viper's den. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea.

SPEAKER_00 8:35

Okay, I think the what gets me there is the knowledge of the Lord, and Jesus is called the Prince of Peace. And I just see you know, this is this has to be. You know, when the animals are entering in the ark orderly, and God ha and I also believe it's also self-preservation because they God obviously something happened between God and the animals, where he gave them the knowledge to say, look, this is for your survival, so you don't perish. I don't know if they understood it exactly like that, but I think the urge was there. Animals today know how to run for safety. We don't have to tell them anything. Uh they they could feel they matter of fact, I think they're I've watched a few videos where animals react right before an earthquake or before some kind of catastrophe, like a tornado or hurricane. They run for cover and they know. So it's not like it's unheard of. This isn't like completely far-fetched, like, oh, that doesn't happen. So we even see that even today.

SPEAKER_01 9:39

I mean, there's a scripture in 1 Corinthians 14 33 where it says very specifically that God is not a god of disorder but of peace.

SPEAKER_00 9:47

Hmm. Very good.

SPEAKER_01 9:48

Um and having the animals come to Noah, there's no other way other than by the power of God that those animals would have been able to be gathered together.

SPEAKER_00 10:01

I agree, 100%.

SPEAKER_01 10:02

And not only gather together, but and and also to know the exact point in which to meet. Exactly, the arc, yeah. Right, and there's no other explanation for it other than the power of God.

SPEAKER_00 10:18

Yeah, because you know Noah didn't do that.

SPEAKER_01 10:20

No. And and I think I mentioned this in one of our previous episodes. Can you imagine somebody like me or you trying to round up all these different species of animals? Wouldn't happen. No, are you kidding me? Not one.

SPEAKER_00 10:32

You'd have to tricolize them.

SPEAKER_01 10:33

Yeah. And and then even after tranquilizing them, you wouldn't be able just to let them roam free. You'd have to have them caged up in order, you know, for them not to eat you or attack you. So this is this was a huge undertaking undertaking, possible only through the power of God. And not just to get them to the ark, but to keep them calm. Yeah. For almost peaceful. Yeah, because yeah, for over, was it how many? 371 days, I think we read. Yeah, that they were on the ark.

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So talk about getting along.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:07

Okay. So uh let's move forward to verse. Okay, so uh we talked about the un in verse eight. We talked about the unclean, clean animals in the last one that talks about where you I remember Moses is writing this, and and God had had uh given them the knowledge of what animals they can use, what they can't use, what's clean, unclean. And this is the reason why it's named here. Uh verse 9, 2 by 2 went into the ark, male and female. So let's talk about the male and female aspect of this. Because here it says God commanded this. Now, as we know that God commanded this for the very reason of procreation. Right. If you were to have two male, let's just say two male camels, and those are the only camels that made it on board. Or two females. Or two females, uh, consider their species wiped out as soon as they die. Right. Exactly. So you have to have the natural order that God created for procreation. Right. Regardless of what anybody thinks, okay, this is how it is. The animals knew that even in this aspect here of getting on the ark, without that, it'd be extinction.

SPEAKER_01 12:31

Right. Animal life would not exist at all. And our earth would be in trouble because every single thing on this planet, from people to animal life, to the little microscopic little insects. Yeah, that that live in the soil that you know, we can't see there's so many different things that God created in order to make this planet what it is. Yes. And without one of those species of animal life, insects, whatever it might be, this earth is in trouble because everything has a purpose and it keeps everything balanced.

SPEAKER_00 13:08

I was told that uh that of the sea, um crabs and uh lobsters and you know, fish or or or shelled fish like that are kind of like the garbagemen of the uh of the sea.

SPEAKER_01 13:24

Oh, like shrimp and lots of big things.

SPEAKER_00 13:25

Yeah, and the same with flies. Flies, they have a job. They all they're like the garbagemen of of the of the land. Right. And so the vultures the same way. So there's purpose for everything, and and God, and see, God didn't tell that to Noah, though. He said, just do this, I'll take care of the rest. Right. And eventually, as through science, we figure out this is what God meant it for, which is amazing to think. Yeah, it's it's it's extraordinary. Okay, so uh let's go to uh let's see, we were at just eight verse not ten, now it's ten. Okay, and it came to pass that after seven days that the waters of the flood were on the earth. So, like you said in the last episode, there was seven days of grace. It was a countdown. Seven, six, five, four, three, two, one, and then the rain. So even in the very end, after a hundred plus years of building the ark, now he's saying, here's seven more, here's the countdown. Okay. Uh they still ignored him. They still ignored Noah, they still ignored the warning, they ignore, ignored the message.

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Which is mind-blowing.

SPEAKER_00 14:34

Yeah, it's it's crazy. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 14:37

Um, so now we go into Well, here's another thing, too, with the seven days. That's think about the kind of patience and obedience to God you would have to have in order to stay put inside of this ark with all these animals for seven days. I know you think, oh, okay, a week. Well, you try.

SPEAKER_00 15:10

It's like it's like that would be psychologically and emotionally, it would be like, okay, we're in here with all these animals. What if it doesn't rain?

SPEAKER_01 15:21

Yeah, I mean, and Noah is with all of his faith and obedience, you know, to God, he's still human.

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Yes.

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I'm sure that if if not Noah, his wife, maybe his sons, the daughters-in-law, you you don't know, they could have had a moment of like doubt. Yeah, what if this doesn't really happen? You know, they're imperfect people. You know, we all have our moments of doubt.

SPEAKER_00 15:45

But on the other hand, think about this. What if we're what if what our father and our father-in-law and and Noah's wife, my husband, is correct. Right. Then we are in the right place.

SPEAKER_01 15:57

Exactly. I mean, so this the the the additional seven days seems to me that it could have been like a final test of faith and obedience.

SPEAKER_00 16:05

Very good. I agree. 100%. Um and every day could seem like a week.

SPEAKER_01 16:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:13

With all those animals. I'm not I'm not trying to be gross or nothing, but can you imagine the stench of animals for a week?

SPEAKER_01 16:20

Right. And and what if it was hot outside? Ooh. You know, just compound and then swampy, huh? Right. Yeah. And then just I mean, the way that the Bible describes that the ark was built, I mean, it had ventilation. Yes. I mean it had to have ventilation. But that would just that would have been a hard place to be there.

SPEAKER_00 16:43

That's why he's in the Hall of Fame of Faith, and like you said in Hebrews.

SPEAKER_01 16:46

Eleven eleven, yes.

SPEAKER_00 16:47

So Okay, um. Okay, so here in verse 11 it says, in the sixteenth okay, in the six hundredth year of Noah's life.

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In the second month, the seventeenth day of the month.

SPEAKER_00 17:02

Yes. Uh I like how Moses is. He's very specific. So here's another thing. Again, remember, Moses wrote this down. In Exodus chapter 12, God had given Moses and Aaron and the the the children of Israel a calendar. And the very first calendar, and I and I and I wrote this down here so that we can uh check this out. Now the the calendar um that that m that was given to Moses by God. Okay, so the first month of the calendar is um Nisan. Is it Nisan or Nisan? I I this pronounced both ways. Oh, okay. Yeah, but it's definitely not the Japanese vehicle. Oh, the month of Nisan or Nisan is the first month, and the second month of the Hebrew calendar is Ear and Zev. Ear or Zev. So this is the second month of the Hebrew calendar. Okay, and if you think about that, that's how Noah would be that's how Moses was able to write this down, is because they already were given a calendar.

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Right.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_01 18:16

So he had an understanding of time. Of time, of the months and days and years.

SPEAKER_00 18:21

So here's another thing. Noah being 600 years old. Why is it necessary? It is not only a milestone, so that you can figure out many things from his age, because the flood is the marker. So this is one week before the flood happened, and you're talking about a marker from the flood forward. So then you could start doing the math and figuring out how long it was from Noah to, let's say, Jesus, or from Noah to, say, Moses. This is a very catastrophic day that these things happened on, but at the same time, it's also a marker, a timestamp. Now, we were talking about Noah's age. Why at 600 years old was he able to complete this? I'll tell you. I've studied this through and through over and over, and I've come to the conclusion that Noah may add a better material. Well, yeah, and and and Noah also had six hundred years of work with his hands. And it took him a hundred plus years to build the ark. So he probably was familiar with tools. Uh here's the other thing, technology.

SPEAKER_02 19:41

Right.

SPEAKER_00 19:41

So, in order to build the arc the size that it says that it built, which was what was the length of three football fields?

SPEAKER_01 19:48

Oh gosh. It was like 510 feet or just over 500 feet.

SPEAKER_00 19:51

Okay, so a couple of football fields and then a couple of decks. Three. Yes, and then three decks to house animals and them and supplies, and so on. So this was a massive undertaking. Undertaking, and eight people in a hundred years. That's an amazing. So you so we're gonna have to at least give Noah's age uh in order to develop technology and ways to cut trees, transport them from the place where they cut them to the ark, split them, however, it is, measure. This didn't this wasn't just human power. This was obviously godly power. Godly and also animal power.

SPEAKER_01 20:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:36

Okay. I imagine that animals were just a little bit bigger and were able to haul larger things. So there's there's a lot of explanations that we can go into, but I think it was necessary for Noah to be this age to have that much knowledge to build uh an arc of such undertaking.

SPEAKER_01 20:53

Well, we've I've mentioned this, or you mentioned it. One of us did. I mean, think about the the knowledge that we accumulate even in our lifespan now. That's right. Can you imagine doubling that, tripling that?

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Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 21:06

You know, ex you know, on so on and so forth.

SPEAKER_00 21:09

You'd be a master.

SPEAKER_01 21:10

Right. At at different things. You know, whatever you put your hands to, and by practicing it on a regular basis, you would become beyond an expert in whatever that that um that skill is.

SPEAKER_00 21:24

I've been in retail for thirty-six years. I can't imagine being in retail for another five hundred. I just can't. I just no. But I would be the master grocer, you know.

SPEAKER_01 21:36

Right. Right. Well, I've been in healthcare for twenty-one years. And um I can't imagine doing anything else. You'd be the master physician. Yeah. Given enough time. That's right. I mean, for cre I mean, I'm not a doctor, but I mean yeah, I mean, given that much more time. Shoot.

SPEAKER_02 21:55

Yes.

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Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_00 21:56

Okay, so um so let's go back. To the last scripture here, it says um oh no, it says that gives the time and date. It says on the day on that day, so on that day, all the fountains of the great deep were broken up. These are the artesian wells uh that are under or even today. So if you if you go to wherever and they have ways to figure out where water is at, if you buy a piece of property, you want well water, you drill until you hit water, water's trapped underground. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:35

Well, when I was a kid, uh my dad had um paid this company to come out and drill, and well, they found water. You know, they went down, they went down like 30 feet or something like that, 40 feet, and they were able to find water. So it's it's it's amazing. You don't think that there's water down there, but it's just it's kind of mind-blowing.

SPEAKER_00 22:57

Yes, and so water being underneath the earth now. Imagine in more ancient times, ancient earth, 6,000 years ago, 5,000 years ago. You this is uh you're talking, I think it was 1,100 years from the creation to Noah.

SPEAKER_01 23:16

The way they would calculate the time was based on the lifespan of the patriarchs of that era, and I think it m amounted to like 1,656 years, something of that nature. Until the from creation to the flood.

SPEAKER_00 23:36

So you figure it's only been that period of time, which is a long period of time, but no, it was 600 years old, so half of that, or a little over. Little under little under. You figure the earth is still basically in a in a pristine condition and having all the water not visible or not even you know available, but it's either under the earth, under dry land, in the ocean, and then above, which is the ferment. We'll get to that. And so one of the things that I find interesting is that God used the earth to destroy the earth. He used the earth also to destroy the people. It wasn't think anything outside of himself, it was to use that. And the earth is dangerous. A lot of people don't think so, but it is very dangerous if it does not go in our favor. Right.

SPEAKER_01 24:32

Think of volcanoes.

SPEAKER_00 24:34

Yes. I mean that's what Mount St. Helens, that was in, I think, eighth grade or seventh grade when that happened.

SPEAKER_01 24:40

1980, May of 1980.

SPEAKER_00 24:42

Um Kilauea in Hawaii. There's just a lot of things, the tsunami in Sri Lanka. There's so many things, it's just there's so many tragedies. And so, but but the earth is is it can be dangerous. And so here you have these wells underneath the earth breaking out, earth cracking, here they come, bursting out of the out of the land. And then the oceans get overwhelmed, and then it starts to rain, and then there's the what they call the firmament, and I think that we kind of talked about what that was. In in Genesis chapter 2, it talks about mist watering the earth at that time, which is a very unique way to do, but that's what it was in the ancient times.

SPEAKER_01 25:26

Right, because it didn't rain as we know it today.

SPEAKER_00 25:28

So collectively, if you gather all of that water together, you have a flash flood. And the flash flood, and I looked up a flash flood, the flash flood today could take up to I think it was like a c I think five or six minutes. You could be underwater.

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Right.

SPEAKER_01 25:47

You mean like a hundred pound rock?

SPEAKER_00 25:48

It could move a hundred pound rock.

SPEAKER_01 25:50

Or it can move uh cars, yeah, vehicles and take out trees and your house. It's like it's just awful.

SPEAKER_00 25:58

And that's just local floods. This is worldwide.

SPEAKER_01 26:01

Right. And yeah, we're not talking a tiny local flash flood, we're talking a worldwide torrent, you know, just torrential rain and a massive deluge.

SPEAKER_00 26:12

You know, where I'm from, I'm not gonna say, but if it rains for three days, okay, and living by a river, that there are people that live like on the on the right by the river. And if it rains for three or four days, they're they're they're underwater. Oh yeah, I know. Okay, this is just the water flowing into that river and causing this this this flood. Mm-hmm. Um, I can think of at least three times that this has happened, and up and up in recently, I think it's been really close. Uh this is scary, you know, and we're talking now 40 days it's rained. After three or four days, but forty days, this is uh unprecedented. Right. Not only is raining is unprecedented, but flooding.

SPEAKER_01 27:00

Right. Um, here's a scripture in in regard to what we're talking about, you know, these waters in Psalms 33, verse 7, it says he gathers the waters of the sea together as a heap. He lays up the the deep in storehouses.

SPEAKER_00 27:17

There it is. So along with the wind, along with uh all the water, there's one more thing that we don't think about, is that if you believe in one supercontinent, and they call it Pangea, and you can see the proof of how the Earth was connected to one another in one continent. They're all separated now into, I think it's eight continents, seven continents. And you could see that there's a mountain range, which is the longest mountain range on the floor of the Atlantic Ocean, that ranges with the same outline as the continent's coastline, as if they were joined. And this mountain range like a jigsaw? Yes, this mountain range is uh called the mid-Atlantic Ridge. Look it up, and you'll see I'm correct. This is super important to know because I believe it caused the earth to break up into pieces. If the artesian wells were emptied, that was the support before, and then when you remove that support, it created tectonic plates and tectonic movement. So that's what I I believe to be true. Um it says the uh the fountains of the great deep were broken up and the windows of heaven were opened. No, I'm sorry, heaven. The windows of heaven were opened. So that means uh I believe whatever water existed at this time in these ancient and the ancient earth at this time came down. Additional water that wasn't on the earth physically, but was in either the atmosphere or in the sky came down.

SPEAKER_01 29:09

Well, earlier in the book of Genesis, it mentions how God separated the waters from the waters, and there's water that was below the expanse and then above the expanse. And the expanse is the sky. That's right. Um, in s uh, you know, the Bible talks about birds flying in the expanse, so we know that's you know the heavens. You know, I'm not saying heavens as where God is, you know, where his his abode. But it explains about how God separated it. Water, there's water below, water above. And there's the the th the theory, the thought that maybe God took some of this, you know, because it it says the earth was uh without form and was void. The Bible also talks about God's face being upon the the dark of the of the waters. Um so you can imagine the amount of water that was, you know, there was no dry land showing. So we're thinking that God, you know, may have taken some of this extra water, if you want to call it extra water, and put it that's what he put above the expanse, like this that water canopy, that theory that exists, in order to have a place to put the water, and then you had just enough water below the expanse, or like the seas, the rivers, the lakes, etc. And dry land appeared, was it by the creation day of like the third creation day? Of of it was the second. Was it the second? Well, the second is what it talks about the the expanse and separating waters from the waters. You're right. I believe the land appeared by the third third day of creation. I might be wrong. It's the thing is in uh verse six. Yeah. Um and so when the time of the flood came, those waters, I mean, it's not there now, you know, but you know, in that time it could have served also as a protective layer from the heat of the sun, the ray, you know, the radiation um from the sun's rays as a maybe a protective factor for people of that time. Um again, this is a theory. There's this is not something that the Bible says exactly, a water canopy, but um those waters at the point of the flood could have uh that could have the skies could have opened up, and that's what fell from from the heavens, all that extra water.

SPEAKER_00 31:48

I agree 100%. And so here uh it says that uh on that day uh it says the fountains of the Great Deep were broken, the windows of heaven were open, and verse 12 says, and the rain was on the earth forty days and forty nights. So it rained for forty days. Now I always thought that meant eighty. No. Counting the uh the forty nights, it's actually forty.

SPEAKER_01 32:15

Yeah, I mean 40 full days. Well, because if you think a day has a the morning and the night, that's one full day. And then you have day two, morning and night, etc. etc. So I I I it's a literal 40 days.

SPEAKER_00 32:30

So yeah, I agree 100%. So here, um these 40 days, you know, some people like to make a big deal about numbers. Um Jesus was tested in the wilderness. Uh, I believe it was 40 days. Um there's uh We touched on this on our other. Yeah, and and and I and I start thinking about the significance of that. No, even though Noah was told it would rain for 40 days, I don't know about you, but I don't know if I could handle the noise of rain for 40 days. That would be hard.

SPEAKER_01 33:11

And I don't know, and I just um in you know, of course, like you play out scenarios in your head. Can you imagine when the rains finally did start coming down and the people who were outside the ark, the shock that they would have been in when the rains when the water started coming down? Right. It'd be like, what's going on? And when it just and things and then not only from the sky, but as the Bible says that the fountains of the great deep were broken up, and there was just more water coming up from the ground. Can you imagine the terror and the sounds of people dying around you? And not just one or two, you're talking thousands, you know, just hundreds, you know, of like just uh just a huge amount of people, the wailing of not just humankind, but also of animal life. That's right. That would have just been a horrific sound.

SPEAKER_00 34:10

Um I think what I take away from this is not just a story, but since Jesus referred to it as a warning. Yeah. In the day of the world. Something that actually the mistake that people make today of Christianity, Jesus Christ, eschatology and times, these types of things can't be real. You know? It can't be real. That's just religion. These are fanatical people believing that an end will come. You know, and and and they disbelieve it, faithless. They think that we're crazy, they think that what we're doing is a waste of time. It's for the weak, it's for the people who need spiritual uh uh emotional crutch to have religion for the old, for the young, and for the naive, and that's what they think. And that's what they thought then. So history repeats itself. The brazen, proud, arrogant nature of man to defy God, and then judgment comes. You see, this isn't something to play with, this is a uh a story that is is is meant historically for us. It's not a children's story. This is a story of accountability to God to recognize that he is a savior, that there is something he is doing to save us from ourselves.

SPEAKER_01 35:47

Right. Why do you think Jesus mentioned so many times uh or mentioned, I should say, during this time on earth, as in the days of Noah?

SPEAKER_02 35:56

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 35:57

It was a comparison he made because it's he's saying, just as then and what will come is destruction. And you need to heed my words. You need to heed what I'm saying. Take this seriously. Some people will, you know, will think, okay, like the Bible describes of, you know, the time of of the time the days and the things that will occur before the last days, before Jesus' return, about wars and reports of wars and pestilences and violence, lawlessness. People say, well, that's been going on for centuries. And it's true, it has been going on for centuries. But where in the course of humankind has it been as bad as it has been, let's say, in the last 100 or 150 years. I mean, especially the 20th century. Where did you ever hear of a world war? You had what, two world wars in a hundred years? And not to mention the other wars, Korea, Vietnam. It's like it's like the increase of of or the decrease of in in the uh belief in God, the decrease in morality, the increase of lawlessness, the increase of people thinking I don't need God. You know, that's just that's that's like you said, that's for the weak. That's for everybody else. That's not for me. I know what I'm doing, I know how I'm gonna live my life, I make the rules, I'm gonna live by what I believe. But what has that benefited anybody? And so you just see the the shift from faith and obedience to faithlessness and disobedience and an increase of everything of you know in all these iniquities. And never before, even just in the time I've been on this earth. There's things now that I thought I would never hear of. And these are just the beginnings, right? And um, it's beyond me, and this is not a judgment on anybody or pointing the finger at anybody, um, it's just beyond me to think that some people just can't see it.

SPEAKER_02 38:30

Right.

SPEAKER_01 38:30

Um, or maybe they don't want to see it. But um again, Jesus is our salvific um is that how should I say that uh that salvation? That's right.

SPEAKER_00 38:44

So So to tie everything up, I would I would definitely um to catch up, uh go back and listen to the other uh episodes that we have that are on here, to be able to understand a more panoramic, because these are we study these things um in sections so we can get through it, so it's easy listening. But listening to the whole these episodes in succession will help you understand the Bible in general, because if you know where you're coming from, you know where you're going. And I really believe that in conjunction to uh what Jesus is saying in Matthew chapter 24, it's important to tie all this together because these aren't the the Bible is meant for so many things, it is also meant for you to be inspired and and to uh gain faith and so on and so forth, but it's also about salvation and it's it's we find it in Jesus Christ. I say this with the best intentions. The Bible is not just a feel-good book. It is not so that you can gain something and you have a better day. It you it that can be, you could use it for that, but that's not what it's for. It is to let us know who God is, that this world is going to come to an end. We are in sin and need of a savior, and the only way we can find salvation is in the name of Jesus Christ. And that's that's the gist of it. But in order to really understand and put your faith in and root yourself in, is to read your Bible.

SPEAKER_01 40:33

Right. It's not just about you know, listening to a story and you know, a Bible story and you know, and feeling good after hearing about it. That's right. And not as the Bible describes as somebody just wanting their I don't know exact the exact scripture. For some reason I can't remember the exact verse, but basically like having wanting people wanting to have their ears tickled. That's right, just wanting to hear pleasant things. This is something for us to take seriously. That's right. And and that's not just for our listeners, that's for me, that's for Pastor Frank, that's for everybody. And um we just really need to take, you know, really pay attention and take heed to to to um what we you know take in what we read and make it part of our daily living. That's right.

SPEAKER_00 41:29

And when you tell other people, I always like to tell people that we do this one person at a time.

SPEAKER_01 41:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:37

And that's how it's done. Uh investing into people, the knowledge of God, letting them know, you know, where their salvation lies in Jesus Christ. And and we are we're doing the job, we're doing our duty, our uh our reasonable uh duty and faith uh in our Savior. So I just want to leave everybody with that and and um hope that you enjoyed this. This is something that we do, it we do out of our the bottom of our heart, um in the service of of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, so people can know.

SPEAKER_01 42:12

Right. Thank you for listening and always support us, please, by not just by listening, but to um but also sharing with those in your life. We would greatly appreciate that because the only thing that we want is for others to hear this word and to take it to heart and um be able to come to know God, to come to know Christ and uh make them part of their their daily life. That's right.

SPEAKER_00 42:40

Okay, well, um thank you for listening again and uh support us by downloading and um giving us, sharing with everybody else that you know, and just uh use it in your Bible studies, maybe on a walk, working out, uh maybe on your commute. Uh it's a good listen uh for those types of things. And uh we just hope that you know that you have a great rest rest of your weekend and and likewise for us as well. Yeah. Alright, this is Pastor Frank.

SPEAKER_01 43:10

And this is Luce at Two Becomes One.

SPEAKER_00 43:13

God bless.

SPEAKER_01 43:14

Thank you, amen.