Genesis 8:1-5

Noah and his family continue their days in the Ark waiting for what's next. Being human through this experience and pure faith and trust in Gods salvation.  

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SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hi, this is Pastor Frank. And this is Luce. And this is our podcast, Two Become Is One. I just want to also invite you to share these episodes with your friends, with your families, no matter where they're at. We are so thankful of the growth of our podcast, and we give God all the praise and glory for it. For it's his word, not ours. And we're that humble to say that we're just willing vessels, willing to communicate his truths, his love, his mercy, and his grace. So we are in Episode 29.

SPEAKER_02 0:46

And just to reiterate Pastor Frank's words, yes, we are truly humbled and truly thankful and grateful for the downloads and for those who are listening and sharing, and over and over, we can't say enough that all glory be to God for making that happen. So, and today we'll be reading, we'll be starting a new chapter in Genesis. It's uh uh it's about Noah's deliverance, and it's uh Genesis chapter 8. We'll be starting, of course, verse 1, and then we'll go through verse 5. Yes. So please just bring out your Bible, read on your phone, the tablet, whatever is available to you, and just follow along. We read out of the New King James version, but it doesn't matter. Whatever Bible version you have at your, you know, at your disposal, uh, please feel free to uh read from that. So uh without saying too much more, I'll go ahead and start reading in uh verse one. Sure. It says again, chapter eight, verses one through five. Then God remembered Noah and every living thing, and all the animals that were with him in the ark, and God made a wind to pass over the earth, and the water subsided. The fountains of the deep and the windows of heaven were also stopped, and the rain from heaven was restrained, and the waters receded continually from the earth. At the end of the hundred and fifty days the waters decreased. Then the ark rested in the seventh month, the seventeenth day of the month, on the mountains of Ararat, and the waters decreased continually until the tenth month. In the tenth month, on the first day of the month, the tops of the mountains were seen.

SPEAKER_00 2:40

You know, this paints a very stark uh reassuring picture versus the last chapter of destruction and judgment. Um I would say by this time, Noah and his family being in the ark, I think the worst is over. Right. Uh and and you know, I think it would the the 40 days, 40 nights of rain. Uh I don't know. It just it is an to even think about you know it to put yourself there, to remove and use your imagination and put yourself there into that place, and then it stops raining. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 3:22

In a time where it never rained before.

SPEAKER_00 3:24

Yes. So everything's brand new, everything's unprecedented. So I mean, just to just to I don't I don't I don't think I can ever think of what it would be like just on a personal level to be in something other than the fact if you've ever been locked up, it'd probably be the only thing that I can think of. Uh, but or being in a position where it is uh you know very, very difficult. And it's not just food and water, it's like emotionally, spiritually, physically. There's just a lot of things happening. Psychologically, yeah, psychologically. I don't think I think these people had that much faith in God. I think Noah, his family, and you know, his uh sons' wife, they had deep faith in God and his promises. They had to be able to do that. What else would bring us through or bring them through?

SPEAKER_02 4:17

Right. What they have had to have the a very deep, very great level of faith, just to even take on the task of building the ark and believing everything that God said about the flood coming, and then not just the flood coming, but then it would wipe out every living thing. You know, every like the scripture says in in the previous chapter, everything that had the breath of life died. Yes. And in order to believe all that and to go through with such a tremendous task, they had to have a great amount of faith.

SPEAKER_00 5:00

Yes. And the stability that faith creates, I just want to bring that up too. Faith creates a very stable heart, mind, soul. Because I think an average person would probably have taken on some like emotional and psychological damage without the Holy Spirit, without God's promises, without having faith. You just see things so much differently. Right. It's more like um you see it as a a nihilist, you know, or somebody who just uh just hey it that's the natural course of things, and that is just so unfeeling. But God's love had to be felt here, right?

SPEAKER_02 5:46

Right. Um I mean we can't disregard, like in the book of Hebrews, the very first um verse uh Hebrews chapter 11, where it talks about all the about faith and the the heroes of faith, etc. In that very first verse where it talks, it describes what faith is. And I know this is not the exact wording, but it's basically saying you're putting your hope in those things that you have not yet beheld.

SPEAKER_00 6:15

Or seen.

SPEAKER_02 6:15

Or yeah, and and this is exactly what's going on. You've never seen rain, uh, floods like God described.

SPEAKER_00 6:28

I mean and a vessel with like all animals and as huge as it was.

SPEAKER_02 6:33

Yes. So you had to have had tremendous faith.

SPEAKER_00 6:36

Yes, and so we just want to build that for you. We want to be able to build uh your imagination just to place yourself there and not read past this because it should build inside of your heart a level of thankfulness.

SPEAKER_02 6:53

Very much.

SPEAKER_00 6:54

So here it says, then God remembered Noah uh and every living thing and all the animals that were in or that were with him in the ark, and God made the wind to pass over the earth and the waters subsided. So there's uh at least three things going on here. The very first thing is God remembered Noah, and and just at face value, it the the antonym to to remember is to forget. So I don't want people to think when reading this, depending on the version that you're reading the Bible, God doesn't forget. It just basically means that he has always had Noah and his family in mind. Um and this basically saying that it just wasn't the time, and then now it's time. And so he had not only Noah, but also the animals. So the more broader view, uh, we talked about this already, why the purpose of the animals on board, which has a lot to do with the uh, I think the sacrificial system and the um priesthood of the Levitical priesthood and such and on and on, which comes later, way later. But my point is that God was thinking of that back here in these in here in chapter eight about these things and having these animals in particular, I think even double to triple the animals that they were going to use clean animals they were going to use.

SPEAKER_02 8:21

So well it mentions about having seven of each the clean animals. Yes. And what I studied is that uh and you know, male and female, what they said was that three pairs meaning six, you know, male, female for, you know, uh for procreation, you know, for bringing about more, you know, the little babies, and then the one, the seventh, for sacrifice.

SPEAKER_00 8:46

That's right. Okay, and and then it says here in the same verse, it says uh that God had made a wind. Okay, so I studied um kind of like the etymology of the word wind, biblically, Hebrew and such, and what basically wind is also called is ruach. So it is um so where does wind come from? You know, I I've actually asked that question. Where does wind come from? It is created by God, God created wind. Now, um wind has I think a lot of functions if you think about it. It actually um it here it has an evaporation evaporative effect, evaporative effect. So if you ever hang your clothes on a line, if you don't have a dryer, uh I remember my mom used to hang clothes with clothespins outside on a line. Mine too. And the sun, the heat, and also with the wind, they dry. Right. They're stiff, but they dry. And so uh this is the same effect in the with why the wind is important. The other thing, wind also is important in sailing. A vessel can move through water if you have a sail and it catches the wind and it moves it along. Um the other aspect is that um in the seasons change, the wind also blows the leaves off of the tree.

SPEAKER_02 10:20

Right, it's gone almost like a cleaning.

SPEAKER_00 10:22

Yes, like cleansing, yes. Right. Um, so I mean you could just keep going on and on about that, but that's that's the point I'm making. But here, God used wind, to evaporate or a part of the processes of evaporating the water. Now, this is uh I don't want to go too scientific because I don't believe God has written this for science. I think God has had Noah write this for a specific reason so that we can understand. Moses. I'm sorry, you're right, Moses. Uh, and and just keep in mind Moses wrote this, and this is the reason why it mentions certain things in here. So I just want people to understand that the water just didn't miraculously disappear. Disappear. It literally and there's other reasons for it as well, uh, as it reads here in verse 2.

SPEAKER_02 11:12

And I was going to touch on in the beginning of this chapter, verse 1, where it says that God remembered Noah and every living thing. As you mentioned, God never forgets. And the scripture that comes to mind about God, never forgetting and you know, remembering his his promises. It's in the book of Psalms 105. And starting in verse 7, it says, He is the Lord our God, his judgments are in all the earth. He remembers his covenant forever, the promise he made for a thousand generations. So we can always rest assured that what God promises he will fulfill. That's right. And also when it comes to remembering Noah, it's not like, like you said, it's not like you know, God just like all of a sudden got distracted, um, and he just like suddenly remembered again that Noah and his family and all these animals were that they were floating about aimlessly about you know in this great, you know, flooded area. It's not like he's it's like we as human imperfect people we forget something on the stove, and it's like, oh oh my god, I gotta go turn it off, or oh hey, I gotta go turn off that running water. That's not what happened here. So God never forgets us. And then the other scripture that I wanted to point out is in the book of Hebrews, chapter six, and starting in verse 17. So when God wanted to make the unchanging nature of his purpose very clear to the heirs of the promise, he guaranteed it with an oath. Thus, by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have fled to take hold of the hope set before us may be strongly encouraged. So whatever comes out of the mouth of God will never not have results. It will always have results. Exactly. So just wanted to uh that's that that's what came to mind when I I we were going over that uh when you're reading that uh that that verse there. So but if you want to, you know, go on with uh verse two, and it says how the fountains of the deep and the windows of the heaven were also stopped and the rain from heaven was restrained.

SPEAKER_00 14:02

So this is interesting for me personally, because I had read this, I think, in the very first formidable years of me becoming a Christian, or at least a devout one anyway. Um I read this over and over and over, and there's just some things that I thought, oh yeah, I think I have it down, I understand it. And then rereading it now, after all the years of study, I actually found out there's a lot more questions I have. It's not as easy to understand as when I first read it and studied it. Here it says that the the the fountains of the deep and the windows of heaven were also stopped. This means that there was still more water. So the earth was already covered, all the peaks of the of the highest mountains.

SPEAKER_02 14:50

Yeah, by 15 cubits over, it said.

SPEAKER_00 14:52

That's like three stories. Uh two. Two and a two stories, okay.

SPEAKER_02 14:56

Yeah, basically like twenty feet, twenty plus feet.

SPEAKER_00 14:59

So that's amazing. And the God says, okay, turn the faucet off. And so now you're you're thinking, okay, um, there was more than enough to destroy the earth once, probably twice, you know, which is amazing. That's a lot of water. And so uh there are conclusions to this because I said, okay, then where did the water go? Right. Because the wind and heat can only do so much. So I started to realize that there's here and now there are polar ice caps, which is actually contained water. The other aspect is uh clouds in the sky and the water cycle, the evaporation, and then the rain and evaporation and rain.

SPEAKER_02 15:47

So you figure there is um these things came into play once the flood was over because it it had to have the earth changed so much, and then all of a sudden God made it rain. So now with it make with this new uh how should I say that's this new concept of rain, yes, there had to be a new cycle.

SPEAKER_00 16:12

I agree 100%. Uh this okay, so the the way I studied it, it was a part of a a normalizing of a restoration.

SPEAKER_02 16:24

Right. It's like God by stopping the the by uh stopping the fountains of the deep and you know the restraining from the waters from the windows of heaven, it marks the end of judgment. That's right. And it marks the beginning of restoration.

SPEAKER_00 16:45

So it's interesting how God said, okay, enough. Right. This isn't the first time he said enough. Right. If you know your Bible, there's one passage in scripture that I had read just not too long ago, and I was studying the um uh the the beginnings of uh of the the temple of Solomon. Um before it even was a temple, there was a threshing floor that was owned by a Jebusite named Ornan, and David took a census of Israel, and God was displeased, sent the angel of the Lord to destroy, and just as the angel's hand was destroying and it got to the to the uh Mount Moriah or the Temple Mount before it was the Temple Mount, God said enough, withdraw your hand. So there's other places in the Bible where God said enough, and this is judgment, and then it stops. Mercy was also on the ark, not just um after, because the mercy that God, the love and mercy and grace he had on Noah and his family as well was uh part of that, and then now we see his love and mercy and grace also after the flood when the judgment stopped, because now the water is starting to recede, because restoration here is organic, the natural draining of water, the natural water cycle evaporation cycle had to take place and it took time, as it says here.

SPEAKER_02 18:28

Correct. And um, but there's something further here for God, just to touch more on what you just said about God saying enough. That right there, that that concept right there shows you just how much God is in control of everything. I mean, to him, it's like the earth. It's like almost like holding, it's like it's like us holding a marble in our hands. So to God, he could hold the whole, it's like holding the earth in his hand would be like a marble. Yeah. And it just shows you how much he is in control of everything, the elements on earth, everything in space, and you name it, because he is all powerful. And it also takes me back to, uh, not takes me back, but takes me to the in the book of Job, chapter 38, where Job, where God was having that conversation with with Job, if you recall, and he started saying, like example, like starting in verse 4, where he says, Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?

SPEAKER_00 19:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:41

Tell me, if you understand, who marks off its dimensions? Surely you know, who stretched a measuring line across it, on what were its found its footings set, or who laid its cornerstone? So there's all you know, it goes on and on. Um, but it just really shows you like he's telling Job, who are you to say anything? Man, yeah. Man, you, Job, I am God, and this is what I have done. This is what you know, don't forget this. So it's just a very uh Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:14

The other thing this reminds me of is when there was a storm, and I'm not sure if it was the same time Jesus was walking on the water, but then the storm he said, be calm. And the storm, the waters were calm, and they're like, Wow, how how does how does this happen? He even even though the wind and the rain or the wind and the waters obey him.

SPEAKER_02 20:42

Yeah, and he walked on the water.

SPEAKER_00 20:45

So that that just for some reason it reminded me that I just thought I would add that in there. Okay, um so there's a lot to talk about here. I didn't when I first read this, I didn't this trust me did not come up. Right. But uh this is why we do these Bible studies. We read these for, you know, of course, for the edification of God, but also for our learning.

SPEAKER_02 21:08

Right. Because when you read, you may read a passage and understanding understand something from it, but you can go back sometime later and read the same passage, and you'll get out something totally different that you didn't see before.

SPEAKER_00 21:23

That's right. And all these scriptures also have, I just want people to know, they all have a reference. These aren't these these scriptures that we read have references in other parts of the Bible that back up certain principles that we read in scriptures, uh isolated and in some together as a as a concept. So um let's just continue here.

SPEAKER_02 21:46

It says the waters receded.

SPEAKER_00 21:49

So I would say that in the beginning, uh, when God created the earth, it said that there was a firmament, and this is my personal belief. Uh I haven't really tested. This against anything scientific, but I believe that the firmament that was in the atmosphere of the earth prior to uh the flood is part of the rains that came from heaven, and then the artesian wells that were uh inside of the uh cavities of the earth in the land broke open, and so there was more to go. But here's the thing about the water that was in the firmament. God said that's enough. That means that there was still some left. Now I believe that both of them, either in the artesian wells in the earth, in the caverns, or up in the firmament, that when this new restoration happened, that it all that water joined together into the water system. The water, the res uh the um the evaporation and the uh rain. That's the water cycle as we know today. I believe it just joined in, it was just added to it. Because we uh recently just went to the moon and they didn't splash through a firmament, so we know that water is not there anymore, right?

SPEAKER_02 23:06

And I mean, I agree with what you're saying because I mean there was, I think pre-flood, there was more land than there was water. Yes. After the flood, there's more water than there is land. Do you know the ratio of the earth and water now? Um the earth is about two-thirds water. And so that just lets you know, I mean, a lot of that water from that cataclysmic event is still with us. It like you said, it just became part of the whole water cycle.

SPEAKER_00 23:42

Right, along with the polar ice caps. Yeah, if you know, think about this. There was a movie that Kevin Costner made or was in called Waterworld. Oh, yeah. I remember that it was kind of a cheesy movie, but the concept was interesting.

SPEAKER_02 23:56

Right. Yeah. And also touching on verse three, you know, uh how it says, and the waters receded continually from the earth. It's easy for us to think 40 days, 40 nights, it rained. Oh, and then all of a sudden at the end of that 40th day, oh, that Noah could just easily step out and oh, there's land again. Yeah. That's what the that that's the idea, that's the concept that we build. It's like a myth. Yeah, from the time that we're even children. Yeah. You don't stop to think that this water was built up to such a tremendous level that even the mountains were covered. And that that amount of water is going to take a very long time to go down, to recede, to go away. Yeah. You know, it's not going to happen that quickly. So, you know, we need to break that concept, that idea in our head. That's right. You know, because this was this was not an event of just, you know, localized. This was worldwide.

SPEAKER_00 25:05

Well, and also, too, when you read the scripture, because it goes from it jumps from one subject to another just in a matter of words and sentences, like it's it, like if it happened in a moment. But if you read closely, it gives timelines here. Right.

unknown 25:22

Right.

SPEAKER_02 25:22

Well, like in verse 4, it says, then the ark rested in the seventh month, the 17th day of the month, on the mountains of Ararat.

SPEAKER_00 25:29

Okay. Now in the Jewish calendar, the seventh month, okay, is T shri. So Tishri, this is interesting. It says that there are high holy days on the Jewish calendar, and one of them is Feast of Tabernacles, uh, the other one is Yom Kippur, and the other one is Rosh Hashanah. Now, all of these are all characteristic of new beginning. Interesting. And so how we know that Moses wrote this is because T shri existed in Exodus 12. That's when God had given the Israelites a calendar, and the Nisan or Nisan was the very first uh April, I think it was um March, April. And here uh the T Shri, I believe is September, October.

SPEAKER_02 26:23

Something like that.

SPEAKER_00 26:24

Yeah. So um, so this lets us know that Moses wrote um the book of Genesis and well uh the entire Torah, but here we know it because there was no months, a calendar that God had given until Exodus 12. So this is how we know. And I just want people to understand this that that Noah didn't write this. Okay, this is oral Torah that has come down and then eventually written down. So uh interesting enough that these things that we read here can also be scientifically tested uh with more current science, and it still pans out to be applicable.

SPEAKER_02 27:08

Right. And it's just interesting how it says, you know, that the art came to rest on the mountains of Ararat, which we know is still still here today, right? I mean, it's like in it's uh in modern day Turkey, correct? That's right.

SPEAKER_00 27:23

So I mean, if if you look on the map, uh it where Turkey's at and where Ararat is, there's another once we get to the place, I want you to understand that humanity stopped right on top of Mount Ararat. Now, if you think about where that's at, and we'll get into this when we get to it later on in the either chapter eight or nine, you'll see how that there's some history that is very, very slanted and biased, but based on what we're reading here, humanity got out eventually out of the ark on Ararat, which is in Turkey, so just kind of keep that in mind.

SPEAKER_02 28:06

Right.

SPEAKER_00 28:07

You know, when I very first uh read this story, probably when I was a teenager and was understanding it with like more of a studious mind. I was like, what kind of name is Ararat? I just thought that to be a strange name, but that's what it's called. I mean, that's you know, um, it was uh obviously a uh a mountain that's called. Do you even know what that word means? I've never looked it up. So Ararat here, it says um the Armenians originally lived in the region known as Armenia. Okay, that's that. And this is Mount Ararat, officially Mount and this is A-G-R-I-A-Gri Agri R or also known as, and this is M-A-S-I-S masus or mass is uh a snow uh capped and dormant compound volcano in east easternmost Turkey. So this is interesting because scientifically uh the earth being um upheavaled uh for the caverns of the Ortesian wells, the uh disruption of the earth's crust, I mean you're talking uh the the weight of of that much water on the earth over dry land, I could only imagine the pressure that that water could create and how it could break up you know certain aspects of the of the earth. And if you start breaking up the crust of the earth, the natural response of the earth, since that we have a a molten core in our earth, is volcanic activity, right? We see that now, and there's not you know millions and billions and hundreds and millions of pounds of water on top of it, and so it says here that Ararat is a snow-capped dormant volcano. I find that to be interesting. I'm not gonna speculate, but I just find it to be interesting. Okay, verse five. And the waters decrease continually until the tenth month. So the tenth month, I looked that up, and it's interesting in how on the Hebrew calendar, when you look at it, and then you add that to you know what's already written, uh, I find it to be very interesting. Uh it is Tavat. T-E-V-E-T. That is the tenth month. And this is when the waters decrease. So that's about what, two, two months, two to three months? So it took two to three months, even though that that uh it came to rest. It came to rest on Mount Rarat. Now here's where I had a problem with it because it says that it rested on Mount Ararat, but here in verse 5 it says in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, the tops of the mountains were seen. I'm thinking, oh, wait a minute, if the tops of the mountain were seen, then how could it land on Ararat? I felt like there was an error there. It's because Ararat was the tallest peak. That's right. So where the ark actually rested was the tallest peak of Ararat. And then as the waters receded, which is when you were able to see the lower peaks. That simple. See, and I'm the type of person that I have to know, you know, exactly what the scriptures say, but I just it's the reason why um I go you know in depth and to find the answers. So I find this to be very interesting and the placement of where the ark landed. Okay, and I think the other reason why they didn't get off the ark, this is my opinion again, is because just as if you were to go swim in the ocean, you put yourself at risk for predators like sharks. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 32:12

Well, not just that, but there wasn't enough, uh there wasn't any dry land exposed for them to be able to inhabit again.

SPEAKER_01 32:19

Right.

SPEAKER_02 32:20

It was still mostly underwater. So then like but but like you said, there was, you know, predatory sea animals that could have them for dinner, basically. And and why why would God allow that to happen?

SPEAKER_00 32:35

No, I know. I'm just but this is me. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 32:38

You know, just thinking out loud because you're saying, I I'm just saying I I agree with what you're saying, but also there just wasn't any inhabitable dry land for them to be able to rebuild.

SPEAKER_00 32:51

Right. Uh I don't I would imagine that the ark was secure, it wasn't teetering. No, you know, I think it was secure and where it's very seaworthy. Yes. And that to know that you the the the well, the fact that it stopped raining, the fact that it landed, and then on the fact that water started to recede, and a few months later you start to see the mountains, you're like, there's progress.

SPEAKER_02 33:14

Right.

SPEAKER_00 33:15

So just thinking about that, you're seeing you went through all of that, and then now you're like saying, Whew, finally, you know, dry land, you know. Uh you're on water, and I I don't know if you've ever been on a boat before, but it it's it's unstable, it's constantly moving. So under your feet, you've always feel that feeling of it always constantly moving. And I think there is a saying about um sea legs, right?

SPEAKER_01 33:47

I guess they really developed their sea legs, sea legs being on the arc as long as they were, right?

SPEAKER_00 33:52

And so dry land would be, I don't know, it'd be like going home.

SPEAKER_02 33:57

Yeah. You know, yeah, because it's what what we know as human beings where we live, you know, we don't live in the water like fish in a water world.

SPEAKER_00 34:05

So you know, I could imagine is there was a level of um thankfulness, elation, uh, a level of uh just like you know, oh it's it's it's happening, you know, we're we're the with the the worst is over, and now we have like a future. You could that seeing the top of those mountains would be like being future to me, you see. And uh again, using our imaginations, this is what we how we can add what it was like and not just read past it like it's you know like nothing. Like nothing.

SPEAKER_02 34:36

Yeah, just we there's really there's always something to take away from the Bible, uh, something valuable. And again, like I said, you could read something and then go back somewhere, you know, months later, even a year later, read the same thing, the same passage again, and you'll get something new out of it completely. You'll be like, was that there before? Yeah, you'll question yourself, but you know, there's always something new to learn from the scriptures.

SPEAKER_00 35:06

So the other thing would be is this seeing the mountains, seeing the water recede, okay, faith in what was said is now coming to fruition. So the faith wasn't blind faith. It was told God had told them this is what's gonna happen. And so therefore, uh the faith that I believe that they had, they actually could see it actually coming forth in real time and seeing this is why we believed in the first place, because of what we're seeing manifest.

SPEAKER_02 35:42

Right. Yeah, they're seeing it unfold before their eyes. So okay, well, I think uh we'll bring this episode 29 to a close. Uh thank you again, everyone um who has joined us before and for joining again and and also um welcome those who might be new to this podcast. We encourage you to, we hope you enjoyed it. And uh we continue, everyone, to please continue to listen and to share the word. And again, we're very thankful and humbled by the fact that um there's just been an increase of downloads for worldwide of our episodes. And again, all glory be to God always, and you know, he's the one that makes all of this possible.

SPEAKER_00 36:29

Yes, I am I'm humbled. I'm I'm just literally humbled that God is allowing for this to happen and in our time and when we need it the most. We need to know the promises of God, we need to know the covenants of God, we need to know how he fulfills and how he is able to save us in his love and mercy and his grace. It is just so awesome and so uh wide and deep that God is who he is and how he gives us this opportunity to read these stories for the main reason is we said it before and all our other uh episodes of concerning Noah is that Jesus talked about this very same time and how it relates to how it relates to him and his second coming and how we will be redeemed when that time comes. So please, this is not just a little Bible story or a little Bible study that we talk about. This is real life, and then the next time this will happen, the earth says it said the earth will be burned with fervent heat and all the elements. So that's not to scare anybody, but that's just to say that we could be saved from that as well through Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_02 37:46

So spiritual arc of salvation through Christ.

SPEAKER_00 37:50

Amen. All right. Well, this is Pastor Frank. And this is Lu at Two Become is one. Have a blessed evening.

SPEAKER_02 37:57

Thank you, Amen.