Two Become as One
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Two Become as One
Genesis 8:6-12
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Continuing the narrative of the flood and Noah, in the promises of God to have faith in the waters revealing dry land, with the raven and the dove, and the meaning behind the two.
Hi, this is Pastor Frank. And this is Luce. At Two Becomes One. I just want to uh welcome you to this podcast in episode number 30. Number 30. We will be going through.
SPEAKER_00It would be Genesis chapter 8, verses 6 through 12.
SPEAKER_01Okay. So the last one we did, you want to give a little kind of a rundown of what we did last?
SPEAKER_00Sure. And that was um again, chapter 8. We did verses um one through five last time. In those verses, it just says how um how God it says, well, God remembered Noah in his grace and in his uh was there. Yeah, he was mindful and had everything under control. But it says how God made the wind to pass over the earth, the waters began to subside, and that waters began to recede, and that the ark came to rest in the mountains of Ararat. And it was in the tenth month on the first day of the month that the tops of the mountains were uh visible. That's right. Well, starting to become visible. Right. So, and again, we're starting with ch uh how we say chapter, oh my gosh, verse six. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01You know, concerning like the um the water receding, the anticipation and the eagerness for it just to be over, I can only imagine how that would be. And and even if you look out, you obviously see you know that the ark is a large vessel with many decks, three, three to four decks, and three decks. And then you if you could if even if they were able to look out through a window, all you see is water.
SPEAKER_00Right. It just or the views are it's just endless miles of ocean.
SPEAKER_01So you either see either you look outside of the arc and maybe see the sun and just water, or you're in the arc and you see the sun.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, the sun, the sky, and whatever, but it's just water.
SPEAKER_01And and I just want to give uh kind of a word picture for people to visualize. Now, mind you, this is coming to an end nearing a a year.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I think they're on the um arc a total of a year and ten days.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Okay, would you like to read the scriptures?
SPEAKER_00Sure. All right. And again, chapter eight, verses six through twelve. It says So it came to pass at the end of forty days that Noah opened the window of the ark which he had made. Then he sent out a raven, which kept going to and fro until the waters had dried up from the earth. He also sent out from himself a dove to see if the waters had receded from the face of the ground. But the dove found no resting place for the sole of her foot, and she returned into the ark to him, for the waters were on the face of the whole earth. So he put out his hand and took her, and drew her into the ark to himself. And he waited yet another seven days, and again he sent the dove out from the ark. Then the dove came to him in the evening, and behold, a freshly plucked olive leaf was in her mouth, and Noah knew that the waters had receded from the earth. So he waited yet another seven days and sent out the dove, which did not return again to him anymore.
SPEAKER_01So again, uh just trying to give a word picture so that we can become, you know, use our imaginations and try to put ourselves in the ark, um, you know, whether you're Noah or his wife or maybe being somebody who's younger, like his sons, or you know, his daughter-in-law's. And to put yourself in that situation, uh, I would assume that being Noah and his wife being older, who experienced more things, would have maybe a little bit more wherewithal to deal with this psychologically, emotionally, and such.
SPEAKER_00They would have experienced far more in life at that point and had more patience. That's right. They would have learned that.
SPEAKER_01I'm sure on the on the ark, um, you know, given that as an example to them, too, maybe if they the you know, the the sons and the daughter-in-laws maybe got worried, or you know, when is this gonna end, or just kind of keep them calm. Reassured, reassured them, yes, through faith and in God's promises. And I think that's it's the same thing as well, as Jesus referred to the days of Noah. I think we also, when we hear things like that are going on in different parts of the world that seem, you know, whether it's conflict, um, some kind of um war or anything that can worry us, like, you know, what does the future hold? You know, in more recent future, what is it? Is it gonna be tomorrow? Is it gonna be next week? We have to be assured that God's promises will prevail over anybody's news or newspaper or whatever they think on the internet or we know that God's promises are going to be held uh by him. So there's a lot yet to go, but just to reassure you for our listeners, um just trust in the Lord, trust in what we have in Scripture.
SPEAKER_00Just kind of thinking about what you were saying about how you know Noah's you know, sons and daughters-in-law, of course, they were of you know much younger age in comparison to Noah and his wife, and how Noah and of course you know, and his wife would have had to most likely play that role of you know, helping to reassure them and and they themselves having more patience being older in age. It it just kind of painted a funny picture in my head, you know, like when you're going somewhere along car ride and you have young kids with you, and they're all, Mom, are we there yet? You know, like that kind of attitude. I don't know why that just popped into my head, but you know, anyway, enough of that. But the other thing, you know, how you were talking about reassurance and having faith in what God says, and that what he says does not return void. Um if we read in the book of Isaiah, chapter 55, and it would be verse 11, it says, So shall my word be that goes forth from my mouth, it shall not return to me void, but it shall accomplish what I please, and it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it. So I just thought I would read that because um it's just very fitting to what we're you know, what we're talking about right now.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. For sure. Okay, so let's uh start to read in verse six. It said, so it came to pass, and you know I like when the Bible says that, because that means that there was before, and now it's at the time it's gonna happen. Right, right. At the end of 40 days, and Noah, or that Noah opened the window of the Ark which he had made. Uh I mean, either that says there were no windows, or there were windows uh that were sealed because of the rain and water, I'd imagine, and then he actually either, you know, I'll make a window right here and break through, you know. I don't know what that means.
SPEAKER_00Well, I mean, there had to have been some kind of ventilation. Sure. I mean, to begin with. Yeah. I mean, you cannot have the obsession. Yeah, exactly. The just the whole, just all those bodies in there, people and animals. I mean, no. I mean, you had to have some kind of ventilation. Um, but here it specifically mentions a window. A window, yes.
SPEAKER_01So uh then he sent uh this is interesting. Then he sent out a raven, so I'm gonna stop there at the raven. I've always wondered um why a raven, and I actually did a little research, you know, on a raven, and believe it or not, ravens um have somewhat of a buoyancy when it comes to water. They can't stay on water like a duck, right? They're not built for that, but they could rest on water if they needed to for just enough period of time to catch their breath or whatever have you and rest and then go back to flying. Now they could fly for hours. Okay, we're I think the when I looked it up, it said anywhere between like four to six hours of flying. That's good. And they would glide, you know, of course, on the wind and things like that. But just the fact that they could fly that long is amazing. Okay. And then the other thing would be about a raven is that uh, which I didn't know is they're omnivores. So they are they're out, they're scavengers, but they're also predators. Right. So interestingly enough, um, in in a translation that you read, it read it said that the uh the raven came back. Yeah. That it returned. And in other translations I read, it just says that it went out. It didn't really allude to the fact that it came back, but there are translations out there that says that it it did. Now, I guess that's whether here nor there.
SPEAKER_00Well, I mean, here, I mean, in what I what I read 6 through 12, this is the New King James Version, and this says, Then he sent out a raven which kept going to and fro until the waters had dried up from the earth. So, to and fro, that lets you know that it would go back and forth. So, um, and it says that it, but it kept doing that until the waters dried up. But as we we we read when we were looking up about ravens, they, you know, although there were waters and it kept going back and forth, so obviously this signifies that that raven would have been out for a certain period of time. It didn't come back to the ark right away. But we read that they are able to there's enough, there most likely would have been enough out there for them to survive for a little bit of time for say days or maybe a week or so, who knows? Because after the flood, there would have been the carrion, like from the you know, the dead animals, and you know, and as you said, they're omnivores, so they wouldn't just eat flesh, but they would also eat probably some kind of you know, maybe insects and so forth. No, it's not necessarily just animals. So there would have been enough for them to survive because they're scavengers, they're part of nature's garbage men. That's right. So they're I mean, they're very intelligent creatures, but they have a role, just like God has given everything a role and a purpose. That's right. And so they would have had enough out there in order to live on, and then but obviously it there came a point where it it didn't come back because it said it kept going back and forth until the waters had dried up. But then the next one in verse eight, this is if just to gonna go on, it says this is when Noah sent out a dove. So, and it says, and he also sent out from himself a dove to see if the waters had receded from the face of the ground. And what we know about doves in comparison to a raven, well, again, ravens are scavengers, they're unclean animals. Doves, on the other hand, are thought of as a symbol of purity, of innocence, of peace. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Their food source is seed, um, plants, and stuff like that. So they're not scavengers, so they have a different behavior.
SPEAKER_00Right. And they're not going to um when a dove, in this case, how it was sent out, it's not gonna land on the the carrion and the in anything unclean, let's say. That's right. And so since it and there was no land, it it's gonna come back to home and it knew where to go because well, as we know, birds have a uh migratory sense. You know, God created them. Yeah, almost like having a built-in map in their brain, you know, so they know where to go back to.
SPEAKER_01So the earth, I think if you know about this part of the earth, it has magnetism in it, and birds will use the magnetism to navigate. Not just that, but also uh they said that like a built-in compass? A built-in compass with the stars, with the moon and the sun, and which is in if you read in Genesis chapters uh one through two, God had put the stars there for such things, for time, uh, for measurement and stuff. There's one thing, um, and the reason why I think I read when I read the raven went to and fro, is whether that means it goes back to the ark and then out, and back to the ark and out. I would say, yes, that could be, but also another translation when I read uh in the book of Job, chapter um one, and also chapter two, it says, where Satan tells God he has been going to and fro on the earth and from walking up and down in it. So it also could mean that it's that the bird is flying randomly, you know, trying to find land and then resting. So, you know, um the the possibilities are widened, and this is like not really a huge point, but when I read scripture, I would imagine that God would have it make sense. And for me, I would have to read it and say, okay, yeah, well, that makes sense. And so the fact that you have the entire world underwater, it would make sense that wood floats logs and such and have you. Uh, and it'd be plenty, you know, space for a bird, especially a raven, to rest on a log, just for a short period of time to rest. So there's that too. I just want to give both and because I think that it's um if if we want to make sense of it, we have to have it make sense. And and and I think God is a sensible God, right?
SPEAKER_00Well, the scriptures tell us that God is a god of order and peace, he's not a god of chaos.
SPEAKER_01So okay, and then it says, um, and so here's the thing about um, and as you mentioned about the dove, the dove uh is you know, on in a more natural sense and and and you know, having to do with you know the species itself. Um different birds have different behavioral patterns, and in those patterns we can kind of guess, you know, and and say this is what they do, this is what they don't do. And interestingly enough, about a dove, as we read in scripture, that one of the aspects of a dove is that the Holy Spirit, like when John the Baptist, and that was like um Matthew chapter three.
SPEAKER_00It was Matthew chapter three and verse sixteen. Um and I'll just read it here. It says it's verse three, and verse three. See, there I go. I always get him backwards, I don't know why. Matthew chapter three, verses sixteen seventeen. It says, When he had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water, and behold, the heavens were open to him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon him, and suddenly a voice came from heaven saying, This is my beloved son, in whom I am well pleased. And John the Baptist was witness to that. That's right.
SPEAKER_01So, interestingly enough, God uses the dove and representation synonymously with the Holy Spirit. Now, um, you know, I just find that to be very interesting because um doves are they're beautiful birds. Um, and one thing too uh about the dove is that also it is like you said, it's one of the clean animals.
SPEAKER_00I mean, yeah, I mean they're they're how should I say they're in in the sacrificial sense. I mean, uh they were used for sacrifice, and you know, for people that may have not who may have uh may have not had the means to be able to have let's say like the livestock, you know, the more expensive animals for sacrifice, uh doves, turtle doves, you know, they were um they were able to use birds of that nature for that purpose. That's right. So more available. Yes, and they're probably more readily available. Um but the thing too, I was gonna say, you know, why, you know, again, you know, we've been talking about the raven, then now the dove. Obviously, Noah knew the nature of these two birds, you know, Raven again being the the scavenger and its habits, and then the dove being a more um what's the word I'm looking for? Being independent. Yeah, just being a more peaceful, more calm animal. Well, you're talking about the dove. Yeah, dove. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um the I think it's naturally docile.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, naturally docile, and that it wouldn't land on just it wouldn't land on garbage. So obviously, if the bird is returning to the ark, um, I mean, unlike the the raven, again, where it said it would go back and forth and it would obviously be out for some kind of extended period and then come back and etc. etc., the dove didn't do that.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_00It went out, didn't find land, didn't find anywhere to land, and it came back to Noah. So he that let Noah know that if that dove was returning, land was not yet visible.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00So um, and then but further than that, the dove, what it signifies, again, being that bird of of peace and uh purity, etc. And I think you mentioned that it would also uh its correlation with the uh the Holy Spirit. Yeah, so and in Noah and sending out the dove, I mean, I don't think he's just looking for land, he's looking for hope. He's looking for reassurance, he's looking for new beginnings. And I think that's also what that dug, that dug dove, sorry, what that doves dove uh signifies is that new hope, a new beginning that uh that uh God's promises will you see them coming to fruition. Right. And again with the Holy Spirit, how you know the whole um how it descended upon Jesus after being baptized in the form of a dove. Yes, that right there represents renewal, yeah new beginnings, you know, a a new a new way of the the Christianity. Yes, you know, and so there's just so much there. Yes, there is a lot there.
SPEAKER_01Uh the other thing, two things that I just thought of as you were speaking, is the reason why I think Noah had to make a window is to keep the birds in from flying away.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And then the fact that the dove won't just land on anything while it landed on Jesus.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Oh yeah. Well, exactly. Exactly. Think about pure, clean, perfect. That's right.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Um sinless. Yes. So here it says uh in verse eight, he also sent himself a dove in the sea uh to see if the waters had receded from the face of the ground. Uh so it's inquiry. I I don't find it wrong or sinful for Noah to inquire. No. He didn't doubt. No, he knew that God's promises, well, up to this point, yeah, he would totally have faith in God, but he knew God God's promises would there be dry land. He was trying to inquire, is there any dry land right now? We've been in here, and it kind of feels like about the right time it's you know, he God said. And naturally, you know, I'm curious. So he sent out these birds as a way. Now you also mentioned that mariners, uh, when they started sailors. They would send out birds. They would send out birds.
SPEAKER_00Uh so obviously this is something they probably learn from knowing. Yeah, exactly. Right.
SPEAKER_01It's a good that's actually a very smart and wise thing to do. Yeah, exactly. You're not risking human life and and and you're risking you know wildlife, but then they have enough sense to come back, you see, and can find their way back without a compass. Right. To see if the waters had receded from the face of the ground, verse nine, but the dove found no resting place for the sole of her foot, and she returned into the ark to him, for the waters were on the face of the whole earth.
SPEAKER_00Right there. I was gonna say, not to cut you off, but right there when it says that the waters were on the face of the whole earth, because there's people out there who uh think that the flood was only local to wherever Noah was. Noah was, and that it was not a worldwide thing. Here, the scripture specifically says the whole earth. It doesn't say only this part or that part, but it says the whole earth. So right there, that's it's clear as day that it was a worldwide um catastrophe. Yes.
SPEAKER_01And then it goes on to say, so he put out his hand and took her and drew her into the ark to himself. Now, being on the ark, being with these birds, being with the animals, okay, the animals would get used to his scent, to his voice, uh, to his touch, and the birds themselves, uh, just pigeons, um, doves, turtle doves. When spending a lot of time with these birds, they're social. Animals can be social, socialized. Uh, and then eventually you have this dove, I think, would, and this raven would learn to trust Noah as a human being, given the fact that why they got on the ark in the first place was a divine intervention of God on these animals. Right. Fear of man. Right. So that way they're they would fear death more than they would a man, get on board, and then so on and so forth. And this is still in effect, okay? So here, uh without the fear of uh with even with the fear of man, if you spend enough time with uh a dove or pigeons, they used, uh I think in um uh World War I, I think it was, uh homing pigeons uh to be able to uh send messages back and forth. And ironically, the enemy would get predator birds to to kill those homing pigeons. Right. Yeah, it's it's uh it was like a way to uh to deal with those messages back and forth because radios and such, they at least homing pigeons were something that they could trust, and which is interesting. But in the same genre, this is what I would imagine um how getting close to birds and birds would know uh this relationship. Okay, moving on. Verse 11. Oh no, verse 10. And he waited yet another seven days, and again he sent the dove out from the ark. So the fact that they're he's being patient here blows my mind.
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SPEAKER_01Because I'd be ready to get off of that ark, and as soon as we see dry land, we are off. But Noah's in Noah's wisdom and trust in the promises of God shows a lot of patience, and that's something I we don't a lot of people that I see and where I work, you don't see a lot of patience. It's not something that is uh as common.
SPEAKER_00Right. Well, then again, he had 600 years to hone. That's true. He's one year on the ark, yeah. Yeah, exactly. And then uh verse 11 it says, Then the dove came to him in the evening, and behold, a freshly plucked olive leaf was in her mouth, and no one knew that the waters had receded from the earth. Hear what time of day it was?
SPEAKER_01The uh evening. That's right. The dove knew to come back before the sun went down to find its way. Right. Interesting. Now, here it says uh, and he waited yet another seven days again and sent the dove from the ark. So on the seventh day, that could easily have been the Sabbath, you know. A lot of uh sevens in the Bible. Yes. Uh hard to say what day actually it was or whether or not um Noah observed the Sabbath or not, but I just find that to be interesting that it was on the seventh day. Uh it also the part of the uh this is that is very interesting and it has a gigantic narrative to it is the freshly plucked olive leaf was in her mouth. And think about what that means. Now um so in the Bible, olives and olive oil are vital for daily life, symbolizing peace, prosperity, and God's blessing. So primarily uh it was used for food because you know you could put olive oil bread, it just very, very good. It smells good, it tastes good, um, and then you could cook with it, but it's also used as oil for lamps. So the the menorah, the candle opera that was in the temple, olive oil was used as as light kerosene uh to uh to keep the uh the menorah burning. Um and the Garden of Gethsemane, which is an olive grove, that Jesus uh was um they were s him and the disciples were sleeping in the Garden of Gethsemane for a few days. And the fact that Israel uh actually uh pressed olive oil continually for uh the the use of it in in many ways, and this was part of the corporate uh aspect of Israel's unity, uh somewhere in the field and with the barley and the wheat, and somewhere with the the sheep and the goats, and some. So there was there was this community uh of Israel, and one of them were were the olives. Now the other aspect uh is that Israel is also an equivalent to a thriving olive tree. Now, us Gentiles later in the New Testament says that we are grafted on as a wild olive branch, right? Okay, so we're not completely out. We are wild olive branches, but we're definitely grafted onto the main olive uh tree, well, metaphorically speaking. Um the aspect of Israel uh having olive trees in in the the promised land was also something that was was pros is part of prosperity, it symbolized prosperity, right? So and and you have this dove with a little tiny olive leaf, and it has a gigantic narrative that how the olive was used throughout you know the the history of the scriptures of Israel.
SPEAKER_00Well, here's another thing too. I think, I mean, for that dove obviously this was God directed, oh sure for that dove to come back to Noah with that little that olive leaf, it let Loan Loa Noah know that even in destruction that God did not forget his promise of to maintain um life for restoration. It just it was like it was a further reassurance to Noah and his family. True, true. So, because at that point they may like we mentioned in the beginning, they may have already been very, especially the the younger uh aboard the arc, they may have been just weary of like, oh my gosh, when is this gonna be over? I know, you know, we're they're human, they're imperfect, so they may have had you know those feelings and those thoughts.
SPEAKER_01Um so you're saying that one olive leaf spoke volumes.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it spoke volumes, it had to have spoke volumes. They're like, oh my gosh, there's a leaf. You know, things like think about it, yeah, exactly. You know, that and again, you know, that that right there would have been a complete reassurance. I mean, I know it would be to me, yeah, that you know, that God has this, God is in control, God is in charge. He didn't, you know, this is going, his promise is coming to fruition. You know, he that even after all this catastroph all the the catastrophic events, the event that they just went through, in the end, God is wholly in charge. That's right.
SPEAKER_01So you know, the other thing also too, anointing is uh also olive oil is used for. Um the first king of Israel was Saul. He was anointed, and David was anointed, so olive oil is a symbol uh of anointing and also the symbol of the Holy Spirit. Um, it's interesting, and and and all of this, I think you can um kind of read why God allowed that. Because the reminder of this story, uh just I mean, we're reading it now. Right. It's even longer than two thousand years, it's thousands of years old, it's probably anywhere between four and five thousand years old, this story, but yet we're still here reading about it, and that olive leaf is also in scripture, and then the whole narrative of you know, of uh of the olive branch, the olive leaf, the olive itself, and even down to the olive wood, because uh reading and studying about this, it says that olive wood was used in the temple construction. Okay, and that's interesting because I've seen olive trees, they're not straight. So they used is you know what they could from it, from the tree itself, the whatever they can get from it, because it grows really you know in different directions. It's not like it's not like a pine tree, it goes straight up and down, you know, but or redwood, but it's interesting in how you know this all plays.
SPEAKER_00Um, and just to go on um here in verse 12, um he says, so he waited yet another seven days and sent out the dove, which did not return again to him anymore. So obviously, at this point in verse 12, land has become much more visible because the dove obviously found a home. Yeah, you know, so and I I I can only imagine the sense of you know, this joy or this this like oh my gosh, you know, this just the uh sense of amazement, the sense of thankfulness, you know, of gratitude towards God for everything that he had done to that point.
SPEAKER_01So there's one thing I want to point out about the dove and the raven again. Now, if you read, we're gonna I'll just give you just one scripture ahead because we're not quite there yet. We're still in chapter eight, but in in chapter nine it talks about the animals, not just the birds, but the animals in general. Oh, yes. The the the dove uh has its um characteristics, but so does the raven. The raven is more um independent, not that the dove is codependent, but it is uh friendly to some degree. It won't it won't harm you, which a raven could harm you, okay, because there's scriptures in the Bible where it talks about the raven will pluck out people's eyes. Yeah, and now that sounds weird, but it's true. And but also the raven is useful because the ravens were the one who brought, I think it was Elijah or Elisha, I think it was Elijah, uh, meat and bread. Okay, so they were like uh couriers. But at the same time, I would imagine that when God brought the animals into the ark, including the birds, that there was a divine aspect to the birds not fearing man, and that they were there to um take part of the salvation aspect of it, and they stayed calm, and they stayed docile, they stayed uh non-confrontational, um, and they were there to uh you know be saved, of course. But I believe that once they left the ark, especially the raven, once it left the ark, it became a regular raven. It returned to its natural instinctual wild self. Right, and being afraid of people and not coming back. And I believe the same thing also with the dove. Now, if you read in Genesis chapter 9, verse 2, it actually says that. Now, reading this and and trying to make sense of it, I came to that conclusion uh because that made sense. And when I read that, I was like, thank you, Lord, thank you for that, because I really I really want to understand and I really want to give that revelation to people. Right. And also the Holy Spirit as the as far as the form of a dove is also revelation. So when the dove came back with that olive leaf, that was revelation for Noah that it's really close.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, and that's why I said I can't, I can't just I can imagine, or I can only imagine the the sense of of relief and joy and gratitude towards God. Yes. And that it's all coming to to a close. Before you know it, it'll be there. That's right.
SPEAKER_01So you know, it you know, at this point of this story, it's it's refreshing. Yeah. You know, it's it's renewal, you know, it's the restoration. You could actually see, you know, light at the end of the tunnel. Yeah. Right. You know, so to speak. And, you know, I just um it's amazing, you know, to read these scriptures and to realize that these things, these are these uh this narrative and all the affairs of all of this that go on here, it actually happened. And that this story is retold, told, and retold, of course, with some probably omissions and probably some you know um you know different types of uh additions also to it, but it's around the world in every culture.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, every culture has a um, or I shouldn't say every, but most have some kind of a a flood story, of course, with a boat. Yeah, a boat and animals and a and a man, and uh there's god involved, and it of course it's gonna be told differently depending on the on the culture, but you know but there are main things in there the the God, yeah, a boat, yeah, animals and a man.
SPEAKER_01And water, and water and water, yes, of course. The main one of the main components, yes, and I just find this to be interesting, and and that's something that uh, you know, and world uh religions, world uh points of view of this, but there's a reason why it exists. And so again, you know, I just want to um in in in summation that when we read these things, uh, we're reading things that uh that can make sense. God uh will make sense, and all we have to do is continue to study, uh, continue to uh pray and to ask God, what do these things mean? Look for scripture, scripture interpret scripture, and eventually we come to an understanding of what actually happened. So we're adding science to this and it works out. We're adding um the uh what we know here and now to scripture and it works out.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_01Um, and I just truly believe that that God has put these things there for us. Um the fact that that uh ancient mariners and also um you know mariners that were still traversing the seas in the time of the age of discovery would send out birds. Why? It's because they read it. Right. And it worked.
SPEAKER_00Right. And because again, because birds know they just have that built-in compass, that built-in map in their head somehow where they can, like you said, they can use the earth's magnetism, the the the sun, the the stars, the sky. You know, they know how to get from one place to another, which is completely amazing. That's right. You know, but it's all God-given. That's right. And um, just to add here, uh touching on what you said earlier, it says that there are over 200 known myths and legends about a major, often global flood in cultures around the world. It's and making it one of the most widespread ancient narratives. That's right. It says that um these stories are found in Asia, Europe, Africa, Australia, and throughout the Americas. Many flood, um, many of these stories they share similar details as a favorite family, divine warning, a boat or a vessel of some kind, and animals. That's right. That's uh that's pretty cool.
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SPEAKER_01All right. Well, this is Pastor Frank.
SPEAKER_00And this is Luce at Two Become is one.
SPEAKER_01Have a blessed evening.
SPEAKER_00Thank you, amen.