From Homeless to Founder: How Crisis Becomes Your Competitive Advantage with Shawn Gregoire

On the Top Voice podcast Shawn Gregoire shares his journey from homelessness in Houston after dropping out of Rutgers to finding stability through 14.5 years in the Air Force, teaching himself coding in 2021, and later completing an executive MBA at Brown University and IE Business School. After leaving the service in 2023, moving to the DC area, and taking a Department of the Navy role, Shawn is laid off during probationary employee cuts when veterans are no longer exempt, prompting him to found Capstone Tech. He explains how his company builds products to support people navigating a fragmented workforce—starting nonprofits, switching industries, or launching businesses—and how experiences in South Africa shaped his focus on expanding access to opportunity. Shawn discusses redefining security as doing meaningful work while prioritizing family and health.

Timestamps:
00:24 Welcome
01:16 Shawn Background Overview
02:54 Early Life and Loss
04:20 Homeless in Houston
06:30 Mindset in Survival Mode
09:31 Federal Layoff Shock
12:15 Turning Layoff Into Purpose
14:31 What Capstone Tech Builds
16:11 South Africa Entrepreneur Lesson
22:37 Leadership Through Vulnerability
25:05 Redefining Security and Family
28:35 Advice for Big Leaps
32:24 Closing

Connect with Shawn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/shawn-gregoire/
https://capstoneworkforce.com
https://www.capstonetech.co

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome to the Top Voice Podcast, where each week I sit down with leading voices in business leadership and transformation to unpack the issues that matter most. Together, we explore fresh insights, bold ideas, and real-world stories from people shaping how we think about change, culture, and what's possible. Hello, and welcome to the Top Voice podcast. We're a couple hours late today, but it's going to be worth it because we've got Sean Gregoire on with us. And it's a story of inspiration that I think a lot of people are looking for these days. Sean, when we talked and I was just taken by your journey and your story, and we're going to get into that from homelessness to founder, somebody leading the AI revolution here and using those tools to make a difference in your world. Before we get into that and we get to introduce yourself, for those of you who are listening on the live stream, please do let us know where you're coming in from, leave a question or a comment. We'd love to get those. It makes the conversation really, really engaging. Sean, a lot of people are going to want to hear this story. So let's start at the beginning. Tell us who you are and tell us how you got to where you are, because I think that's really the best place to start.

SPEAKER_00 1:12

All right, fantastic. So I I'll like we'll talk through the personal stuff at length. So I'll leave it to the professional. I'm Sean Gray. I'm the founder of Caption Tech. As far as my professional background, I spent 14 and a half years in the in the Air Force. I was an aircraft mechanic. I taught myself how to code back in 2021. I started with Python, and I used that to build a prototype of a product while I was there. I left the service in 2023 and I worked at a startup and uh also did my executive MBA at Brown University and I. That places us in August 2024, where I moved to the DMV, Washington, DC area, um, to work for the federal government. I was working with the Department of the Navy and Doge happened, and uh I got laid off, which we'll also get into, but that was the the genesis of me starting my company.

SPEAKER_01 2:23

Yeah, let's let's talk about that piece. But I I I want to get into that because that story is in and of itself, it seems like a lifetime ago that that doge happened, but it but it really isn't. Um talk to us about your journey into the service because the title of this episode is From Homeless to Founder. And I think your journey is pretty incredible. Um take us back even farther to before you entered the service and some of those early days.

SPEAKER_00 2:50

Absolutely. So so I I grew up, uh I mean, like I had a loving family, but I I grew up um pretty hard. My my mom um dealt with uh addiction. I I never met my father. So I I moved around a lot uh between New York, New Jersey, and and South Carolina. And my my mother ended up doing a jail stint for for most of my childhood. Um when I was um when I was 17, my senior year in high school, I moved back up to New Jersey because she was like she was getting out of jail, she was at a halfway house, and I remember meeting her for the first time as a you know, like a like with like a living memory of her. And she, you know, she looked normal, she was all the way cleaned up, she was still really bright, she was coherent. And a month after that, she passed away just suddenly, right? So I never got to process it. I frankly didn't process it until I was in my late 20s, honestly, but but I I never processed it. So I graduated high school, I went to Rutgers University on uh on an academic scholarship. I did really poorly. Uh and I I ended up and I ended up uh moving back down to South Carolina. I dropped out after my freshman year. Uh like my family did not take that well, so I ended up moving with a bunch of my friends down to Houston, Texas without telling anyone. This is about 2007, and it was seven of us in uh one bedroom apartment, so it went really bad really fast. Uh, I was homeless a lot of the time. Uh I remember being homeless while working at Target, so I would do my shift from 2 p.m. to 10 p.m. And I'll have my my little bag with my toothpaste and everything else, and I'll just figure out a place to sleep. Uh so that would be outside, that'll be at the little 24-hour fitness. And I was trying to figure it out that way for weeks at a time. And even after I got my housing together initially, uh, there was always some sort of struggle because I was never really making a lot. I was um I would have a good couple of months, and then something would happen financially, and I couldn't pay for my likes for a couple of months. So I'd have to, I had to figure that out. Or I was working at Jack in the Box at the time. So there were you know six, seven weeks, so I was just surviving off of Jack in the Box food at the end of each shift, and and that would be my meal. So uh so yeah, it was really rough. It was a really rough couple of years out in Houston, and I got really fortunate that someone introduced me to an Air Force recruiter. I had a I had a clean record, and they said that they could get me out of that situation fairly quickly. So I took it.

SPEAKER_01 5:57

Yeah, wow. It's um, you know, thank you for sharing that. And for people that are listening, if you think you've been through something, play that back and just listen to Sean's story because you've gone from that all the way to the founder of a company to a top voice, somebody who's really, really making a difference. And I think what a what an endorsement for military service and what it can do for someone who's working through the early days of those struggles. I'm I'm curious, Sean, and uh again, we don't get into this a lot, and so I really want to dig in about in those early days. What do you remember thinking about? How do you remember planning? How do you remember coming up with ideas? Most people in survival mode like that are just really in long-term stress, and and we talk a lot about that on this show. But take us back to just what that experience was like. And you seem you're you're you don't seem you're such a calm, composed, well-spoken, successful person. It it's almost hard to imagine. So when you look back, what do you think and feel and and remember from those moments?

SPEAKER_00 7:06

So I always wanted to treat people well, and I always remember, especially since my mom passed at such an early age, and I went through a lot. I went through a lot early. I never wanted to have anything carry over. Now, no, there are there was a lot of times where I didn't actually get to process anything, and that that held me back um for a while until I was able to. But when I'm when I was in times of crisis, it was just stepping forward, stepping forward, stepping forward. Uh so even when I was in Houston back then and I had nothing, it was just all right, so I got to wake up, I'm gonna do my best again, and I would just keep working until I had a break. I uh I I wish that there was some like some magic or or some great book that I read at the time, but um especially back then, I was just doing my best every day. Uh, I never let my situation stop me from treating people nicely. Uh, and I honestly think that was the biggest thing. Um, because like even like during my very hardest times, um, you know, like I finally told someone that I was sleeping outside uh for a couple of weeks while I was working at Target. And you know, she let me crash on the couch. And it's because I was always nice to her, but I didn't want to be seen as uh an anyone's sob story. So I was hiding, I was hiding from people that um I didn't have anywhere to stay. And I think that was really my my thing. Just being able to treat people well, you know, my my situation isn't their fault, and everyone deserves basic dignity and respect and kindness.

SPEAKER_01 8:47

Yeah, I I just uh I'm so inspired by your story, and I'm so inspired by your ability to maintain perspective. I think so many people in similar circumstances, it's easy to give up, it's easy to throw in the towel, it's easy to to blame all sorts of things. And and you know, I I I say I have a phrase I use all the time. It may not be your fault, but it's your problem, and and you've got to figure out how to how to move through it, and certainly you did that. So thank you for sharing that. I I hope you share that a lot with a lot of people because I think you know, and maybe more than ever, we need examples of people who've picked themselves up out of out of out of tough circumstances and and and turned it around. So let's let's talk about the turnaround because you know, here we are 20 something years later, and you get a nice federal job and you get laid off in the midst of one of the most disruptive times in in government that I can remember. I I spent five years in the government space, so I know a little bit about that. Take us back through that experience. I think you got a two-hour layoff notice, and and that was it. So tell us what happened.

SPEAKER_00 9:53

Uh yeah, so I was on the call. So I was working um with the Department of the Navy um at the headquarters in Navy Yard. So um there was A1, A2, and A like A1 would be the Pentagon level. We were at A2, so we would um often get briefs from the Pentagon level officers. And it was a meeting that I was supposed to be in, but they just randomly dropped news that veterans weren't going to be exempt from any probe uh any any probationary employee cuts. Uh at the time, anyone who had been in at their role for a year or less was considered probationary and they were easy to cut. So they were just cutting them essentially wholesale. Um, but veterans were initially exempt for that. I I'm the one who got the news accidentally that veterans would stop being exempt for that. And we're there was supposed to be a 48-hour period for me to know, but since since I was in that meeting and they couldn't hide it, they uh drafted a letter from legal, and I turned in my laptop, and my manager read the letter through tears, and that that was that. It really stunk because I I really liked that job. Uh I liked it, the people were great. Um, I really liked what I was doing every day. I liked the scope of what I was doing, and uh it was uh it was a it was a good job, and it that did not feel great.

SPEAKER_01 11:30

So, how do you take the experiences that have you've accumulated up until that moment and you get another you know big big thing dropped on you out of the blue? What first of all, what what did you take with you into that conversation in terms of skills, experiences, and then what what shifted in you and how did that relate to now what you do? Because I think a lot of people when they get laid off, there's two paths you can take, and it's similar to the story you told. I could I could go feel sorry for myself, or I could use this as a moment to take a new path, and and and that's what you did. So t to tell us what happened in that moment and where you're where you're going now.

SPEAKER_00 12:11

So something actually did snap me then because you know you recall with the homeless story and being able to enlist in the military, uh, that was my first time that I had some sort of security. And everything for me was security. I built my family on just having this bedrock of no matter what, uh I'm not gonna go back, right? And I thought that the the military and uh the federal government was the was the bedrock of of stable employment. Um, but there was always things that I would be curious about, and I would do that a lot in my off time. And I think during that layoff, that's when it hit me that there is no security except for what makes you actually happy. So that's when I just dove in. I told myself, well, like if I'm not gonna have any security anyway, I might as well do stuff I really, really like. And and that's when I really started diving into the in the community and the nonprofit space and really um supporting people. And and as a as a founder, like when you find uh when you find a problem happening over and over and over again, you figure out how you can, you know, one perform a service to help with it. And if you have enough people, you figure out how to scale out said service. So I feel like my company was a natural outgrowth. It still is a natural outgrowth of stuff that I really enjoy doing. And, you know, for my first time professionally, this is the first time I can say, wow, this is everything I've ever wanted. Uh besides uh, you know, like the the revenues lagging a little bit, but I think just like what I do day to day, who I get to help, who I get to support, it's everything I've ever wanted. I couldn't be happier about it.

SPEAKER_01 14:06

Uh it's yeah, you are I I've said this many times to a lot of people that I think resilience is the single most important attribute a person can have, and and it beats all the others by a long shot. And I think you are the you are the living embodiment of that characteristic personality trait. And I just uh super impressed and inspired by you. There's another story I want to get to, which is your this 15-year-old entrepreneur that you met. But before we do that, I I just can't help myself but bounce off your comment about your company. Tell us what you do now, tell us what your company is so people who are listening have a sense of the thread and and the kind of work you do now.

SPEAKER_00 14:44

Right. So my company is called Capstone Tech, and I I build products to support people through this newly fragmented workforce. So I have three products, and uh they frankly stand for what people tend to do when they're trying to transition into something new. They either try to start a small nonprofit, they either or they go to a new industry or they start their own thing. So I wanted to build products that help support people through each of those journeys uh because they're all unique and they're they're all noble, but they're also quite difficult. And when you're and when you're getting started, the process is quite brutal. So I wanted to take uh uh a couple of the the most brutal parts of that problem and do my best to solve them completely, do tat.

SPEAKER_01 15:43

It it's no surprise that someone who made very, very difficult life transitions is now in the business of supporting other people going through that journey. Uh tell us the the moment you there's this great story about a young entrepreneur you met uh on an overseas trip and how that added to your sense of what you needed to build and the service that you needed to build and and how that fit into your journey.

SPEAKER_00 16:07

Gosh, I I love this story. And um, this is uh a great time for me to tell the other half of that story too. So so uh when I was in school, I uh like I said, I went to Brown and IE's um executive MBA program. And as part of that, we went uh to Cape Town, South Africa for a couple of weeks, and a lot of it was under the lens of entrepreneurship. So we we would go to to what they call the um, oh my gosh, uh the uh I I want to call them the like like the like the hoods, like the the like the ghettos. Um I want to say barrios, but um, but yeah, like so there's this um neighborhood called Langa, and there's a lot of there's a lot of poverty there. And so we we not only had a profile of the entrepreneurs, but we also had uh uh a profile of the support system that they already had, and we were supposed to give suggestions for um for for how for how we could support them, like essentially as a consultant, right? And there was this one kid there who was who's 15 years old, and he just stood out to me because he it was it was pure entrepreneurship, and there it was this um like this mobile car washing where where he would um like he he found people in the neighborhood and he figured out everything that he needed to do to solve a problem. Like it's it's everything textbook, uh, like with how you would you know lead people, you identify the problem, like you get a name for yourself, and after you get that name, you're you're able to mobilize support for you while still doing the accounting and making sure the numbers make sense. And doing all that at as a 15-year-old with you know, like the like they they're in no financially dire straits basically is incredible. It's especially what I know now. Like when I was 15, I wasn't thinking about any of that stuff. And that sort of talent tends to get identified super early and nurtured, and you know, this guy is supposed to be a superstar, like just an absolute superstar, like one of the most talented kids and the most one of the most composed kids I've I've ever met. And I don't know if anyone's gonna save him. And and it made me really sad, you know. Like, no, we leave, we have another class, and you know, like who knows who's gonna see him, who knows what's gonna happen to him at any given time because he lives in a dangerous neighborhood, right? And the other side of that coin, this is why I like to stuck with me so much, is that there was this other kid um that I met, he was also really talented, but he had better means. Like he was in more of a middle class neighborhood, and his dad introduced him to crypto when he was 13. And so his whole his whole entrepreneurship journey was formed around around that community, uh, that community. And you know, he's already on startup number two by the age of 20. I think he exited out of the first one. And I didn't see any stark difference with the raw talent and potential. It was just one was opened up to um like a ton of opportunity um due to access to different resources and networks, and and the other one just knew what he knew. He did, he did his best with what he knew. So I I always wanted to build something where that first person will at least get the opportunity to to be whatever his or her potential is. Um, and that that's what made this inevitable. Like is that that story is gonna stick with me for the rest of my life, especially with the contrast. Um, being able to just see it in in real time. I think it was a couple of hours apart. Uh it it it really stuck with me.

SPEAKER_01 20:14

So so much of that is about, I mean, we could we could have a whole conversation about the socioeconomic structure of people and the environment and mentors and and how you have inflection points and sliding doors and all of it about what it what sometimes how lucky you are, sometimes how unlucky you are, and sometimes what it takes to get out. I'm I'm just so curious about thank you for sharing that story. And and I think how does that you you've answered it, but how does that inform maybe who you work with now? You're mostly focused on the nonprofit side. So you're you're building a company, but you're trying to really serve a community of people who are much like the 15-year-old car wash kid, not necessarily the crypto kid.

SPEAKER_00 20:59

Um, yeah, like because like there's there's talent everywhere. Um there's never no there there never has been a shortage of talent anywhere on earth. Uh it's it's always a shortage of exposure, opportunity, and reps, right? And just giving people, like even if it's not necessarily attached to the company, just giving people um the opportunity to just like see more and just like just see what they're capable of with the raw talent, and then putting them in a in a position to do something with said talent is is something that's really important. Uh, because I I can you know like do someone just needs that lucky break. Uh, you know, like for me, my my lucky break um getting into the military was me um trying to apply to a job at at UPS in in the rain. And like me coming in soaked and um you know getting Like getting like water all over my paper application, and some some old guy was like, Man, like you're too young to do this, man. Just uh you never looked at the Air Force before, and like he happened to just know the recruiters, so he called him on the phone and like paid for my cab over there. And there are so many people that just need that that opportunity, or at least reverse engineer their way to an outcome, but they don't know you know what what they need to reverse the engine like reverse engineer their way to.

SPEAKER_01 22:32

Yeah. This is the the beats of a butterfly wing kind of experience where you never know the impact you're gonna have on somebody else's life, an act of kindness, an act of service, a cab ride, uh, you know, extra money, whatever it may be. And so I I think it's interesting in that you tell this story because how does this serve you as a leader now? Not just the experience that you've had, it's clear how it's composed who you are now, but when you share this with others, how does this inform the way you lead, the way you lead your company? The the telling the story is it's pretty vulnerable. You put yourself out there in a way that maybe a lot of people I sense that you might have some humility to you that you don't necessarily want to go into all this stuff, you just want to do the job. So, how does this how does this show up in who you are today?

SPEAKER_00 23:21

Um yeah, and to be clear, like going through my past like this is absolutely torturous for me. Like I'm starting to- I'm not trying to torture you. I'm trying to find because it is important. It is important that you know, like I'm starting to embrace the fact that that people do draw from from this as inspiration and motivation, right? Um, but as a but as a leader, like the traits that I like to see from people is um like clarity, clarity and honesty, right? Uh so just being clear around, okay, this is what I have to do. This is like these are what my blockers are for it. And like, can I do it? Can I not do it? If I can't, what support do I need? Uh I that's something that has really helped me as far as um building, especially in the um early stage, um, when you're not clear about who you're serving, why you're serving them, like what they buy and everything else, you can't really do anything else. And um just just like just taking my my process from like not just resilience per se, but like really backtracking and exploring like all the boring mechanics of why you broke through, and um being able to scale out all of those mechanics at scale. But I I think you know that all starts with being honest with yourself, being honest with your products, um, and um just being clear about how to how to move forward. I I think those two are gonna be the most important parts out outside of the resilience that you talk about, just going after it every day.

SPEAKER_01 25:00

Yeah. I I I want to ask a question that might be a little bit it it's not on the list, but it might be a little torturous for you. Uh so we're just gonna I'm I'm not trying to put you on the couch. I'm just I I think it's something that I'm interested in learning. Is, you know, when you started this, you were talking about security and you were talking about the military and government and that being the most secure piece now. And you know, I know you have a great family, I know you're building something great. How do you how do you think about that concept of security now? And what does it mean to you? Because I think you were searching for it in something else, and now you've you've got to have a different point of view about what that looks like.

SPEAKER_00 25:39

100%. And I think my my security now comes from the fact that I'm doing exactly what I want to do. Uh uh, like the like the money will come, the money will go, but I I just no, I go to sleep at night so happy, and I'm able to engineer my life off of doing things I know serves people, I know like fills my cup and makes me like and gets me energized, and also a way where I can serve my family. Um like like now I can I can choose the 14 hours I work every day as opposed to working them straight. You know, like obviously I'm still working my my behind off, but like I I can I can wake up and take my son to play basketball, or you know, we can go swim. Um, I make sure that we have dinner and we get to hang out. You know, like I make sure my wife has a space to do the you know the stuff that she needs to do for her career to flourish because a lot of times we're moving with the military, like her career was always stalled out, and she didn't really have a professional identity that she could be proud of and have a network and really build out her, um, build build out her professional life. So I think you know, being able to architect all of that, uh, like that that's true security because that's what's going to compound uh over the next five, 10 years. You know, some of the ways I can quantify, but no, a lot of times, like you're not gonna be able to quantify like your son and your wife not resenting you. So, but it's something that's really valuable to me. So I think, you know, for me, that that's security, it's making sure that like I'm not only happy I'm with doing what I'm doing, but you know, my family is happy as well.

SPEAKER_01 27:27

Yeah. Wow, I I just you're you're a wonderful human being. And and I'll tell you, I I didn't have nearly the life that you had growing up, but I I connect with this concept of security. I was searching for security in big companies and trying to go the big partner route, and you know, again, very different than what you had to contend with. And and when my moment came, uh, you know, redefining what it meant to be in control of your life, I think what you're describing also is the difference of what it's like to run away from something versus run towards something. Right. And and when you do that, and there's actually a neuroscience basis for what that is, it's called an approach goal. And when you're pursuing something, instead of just surviving, that 14 hours feels different when you're when you're chasing instead of being chased. And I just think you're you're really, you know, I hope that people listen to this and understand, first of all, whatever you've gone through, put it in perspective, and people have gone through hard things, and there's probably people that have been through harder things than you, hard to imagine. But I'm sure I'm sure there are. But put it into perspective and then find a way. And so I think that leads to the last question of for people who are listening. Maybe they've been laid off, maybe they're in the job that they don't want to do, maybe they've got a family situation that's tough. I mean, you've been through it all. What advice do you have for people who want to take the step they're most afraid to take?

SPEAKER_00 28:50

Take take it through what makes you happy. That I think that's the I think that's what really helped me out. Uh, it was being able to kind of find find my bliss a little bit. And I mean, like one of the stories that I like telling is, you know, like after being laid off, I I think I I was supposed to, you know, like just apply, apply, apply for for jobs and you know, try to go after like whatever the next thing is. And I remember it being March and it was gorgeous outside. And I just remember just being outside so much because I was so used to being in the office, and you know, I was going in the in the DC proper, and um, you know, like you're just like kind of being shoveled back and forth, and it was really the first time I could just be outside, like in this wonderful metropolis, and um kind of enjoy it. So just being able to breathe and uh follow what you want to do. And I think the biggest part of rebuilding is that life, like professional life is just uh problems and solutions, right? So um being able to figure out what problems you want to solve, uh and uh making sure that that aligns with with who you're um with with who like who you like being around, the uh you know, like whatever your environment is, and uh just just being able to like pick out a problem that that you can help people with, and like figuring out what group of people has that problem, whether it's employment, whether it's the entrepreneurship, it's it's the same concept. And I I think even going after a job um and entrepreneurship are becoming blended together now, right? Because um you you have folks who try to use AI to scale out stuff, but the magic's all in the relationships and the the knowledge that you gain from actually talking with people and figuring out, oh, like this keeps me up at night, you know, like as a as a hiring manager. Oh, I can't believe you've done this and this and this. Can you do it for my company? And just having that clarity around the problem that you're solving and just having having proof around it, and then just putting on your your proverbial microphone and be like, hey, people who have this problem, I can solve it, I can prove I can solve it. You know, it works remarkably well for both uh like getting your your next role and entrepreneurship. So I think just taking that approach, but you know, most of all, uh like your sense of security, uh if if you're if you're looking for it in like a salary or or a large company, like it's it's not really a thing anymore. So like you might as well just like follow what makes you happy and what you're best at, and just creating whatever you're doing out of that and however that looks for you.

SPEAKER_01 31:48

I I mean, I think it's it's the most simple advice and straightforward advice. Find a problem, solve it, find a problem you're passionate about, do something that's in the service of others, and the money will come. And it sounds easy to say, and it and there's a probably a lot of people that that don't believe it, but there's real truth and wisdom behind what you just shared, and I hope people will take away from that real depth and from your story. You are a remarkable human being, and and I just applaud your journey, your strength, your resilience, and what you're working on. Um, you know, we have a closing tradition on this podcast, John, where the last guest leaves a question for the next guest, and it's just awesome because they always tend to work out and they always relate in some way. And the question that's been left for you is given everything you've been through now, I'm adding that part in front of it. How do you take care of yourself? How do you recharge? How do you unplug? How do you take care of you and the people that you love knowing everything that you've been through now?

SPEAKER_00 32:49

Well, that's the the cool part of my journey now. I can architect my life to do it. So, as an example, my son wanted to get good at basketball, so I can just take him to the gym and we can play basketball. Uh we go swimming three times a week. We go swimming three um three times a week. And um, like when it's not really warm outside, I I lift and I can actually make make time for that. When I was, you know, when I was in the Air Force and when I was, you know, like a working, I didn't have time to lift. And even when I had time, I didn't have energy to to do so. So I just uh the fact I'm able to architect my life to to make sure that I'm making really healthy decisions. Um, you know, like I'm I'm like I've lost a whole bunch of weight over the last couple of years, and I've also dropped a bunch of bad habits as well. Um, so just being able to have that sort of lifestyle and being able to build it from the ground up has been um really valuable.

SPEAKER_01 33:51

That's it it's great. And I'm gonna I'm gonna insert an observation or an assumption, but you know, a lot of people will will maybe complain or be frustrated. I have little kids now again too, and they want to go do something. Take me here, let's go play on the swings. And maybe you're working on something and you can't do it and you get frustrated. I'm gonna bet that you're probably the most grateful person ever to be able to stop and do those things and spend time with your son, with your wife, with your family. And and I think it's just a good reminder for all of us put the computer away, put the phone down, and and go play with your kids. And it's really what life's all about. And I just I think you're just an inspirational human being, Sean. So thank you for coming on. Where where can everybody follow you? Learn more about your work, about your company, uh, more about your background, and and for those that are interested.

SPEAKER_00 34:42

Yes, so so I'm on LinkedIn uh as Sean Gragoire. Um, you can find me on Instagram at Sean CGregoire. Um, you can look into my website at capstone tech.co not com. Capstone tech.co. Um, you'll be able to see my story and you'll be able to see my my products and everything that I'm working on. And uh, of course, if you want to reach out to me directly, I always have LinkedIn. Uh, I'm reading my messages obsessively. And you can also email me at sg at capstone tech.co.

SPEAKER_01 35:17

Great. Thank you, Sean. We'll we'll be sure to put all those links into the show notes so people can have access to that. Thank you again for your story. Thank you again for coming on. Thank you for sharing it. For those of you that tuned in today, I hope you got a lot out of this conversation. For those of you that are following on your favorite podcast, please do subscribe. This has been a special episode where we did uh something a little different to dive into, I think, what's really an incredible journey. And if you can take anything from it, listen to it again. There's a lot of wisdom in here that you can apply to your life, and and I think Sean is a great example of leading by example. So keep doing what you're doing, brother. You're making a difference. I appreciate you. Awesome.

SPEAKER_00 35:54

Yeah, thank you so much, and I really appreciate the uh opportunity for being on your platform, man.

SPEAKER_01 36:00

I appreciate it. All right, thanks everybody, and we'll see you next week on the Top Voice podcast. Right.