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Episode 41 - New ground for Mostly Legal! Welcome Ladies!

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Our first ladies on the podcast! We welcome two ladies who love the outdoors - Anastasia Patterson and Sarah Knight Nalley. We know you will enjoy listening as we learn about their passion for the outdoors! Thank you for listening!

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SPEAKER_05

I'm thinking like the way they scared me, I was like, my hunting license is gone. Like, why else are they taking this this far unless it's like something way more serious than shooting a bobcat out of the season?

SPEAKER_01

They were trying to get McDonald's on that, y'all.

SPEAKER_05

Sat down, had four birds goblin. I was like, this is it. I mean, they were all within 150 yards. I was like.

SPEAKER_04

Welcome back to another mostly legal Monday. We hope you had a great weekend and are ready to start your week off right with some great storytelling chaos. We're here at Dinkins Mill again. This is Stephen Dinkins, your host, and I'm excited to be here with my brother Scott Dinkins, aka the Pony Boy, and of course, Barracuda Bubba Johnston down at the end of the table. We've got some special guests with us today that Bubba's gonna introduce in just a few moments. We're very excited about breaking some glass ceilings here at Mostly Legal and opening up to a new segment of uh listeners, we hope. So you're gonna hear more about that in just a second. But I want to give a shout out to the listener of the week. I want to thank uh my friend Dean Bennen Haley uh for being an avid listener of the podcast and giving some encouragement to me, but also Bubba. He used to go to church with us at First Baptist. We've known him for a long time and we saw him not too long ago, and he was very kind to us and told us that he'd been enjoying it. So Dean, thanks for listening and appreciate you sharing it with all of your friends and family and hope that uh our audience keeps growing. Bubba Johnston, these guests that we have today, um they're uh friends of yours. You you line this thing up. I want to give you the honor to introduce them and kick off what I think is gonna be a really fun and a little bit different, mostly legal episode.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I am truly excited about this episode because I am tired of looking at you two, and we have got pretty faces to brighten this place up a little bit, thank goodness. And um, we have Anastasia Patterson and Sarah Knight Nally. Just a little bit about them quickly, and we'll let them tell all about their self. But both of these young ladies are like just making a name in outdoors. Um, Anastasia is fishing on the open series with Bathmaster. She is part of Bathmaster Her. Um, just very integral in that, and just super excited to have her. Sarah Knight, influencer, outdoors lady, all involved with everything. Hunting, turkey hunting, a little bit of fishing, but mainly, mainly hunting, and just can get it done, no doubt about it out there. So we are truly excited to have y'all on here tonight. Y'all are the first ladies that have been on the Motion Legal podcast. So, I mean, for the millions and millions of listeners out there, y'all, this is just truly groundbreaking tonight. And so we're glad to have y'all. Um, we will take a little bit of time, like just want to kind of the way we started this podcast really is talking about like our stories and how we got involved in outdoors and what kind of led us to that, and then sharing the outdoors stories that we had and and that we the memory we have from growing up doing that kind of stuff. So we want to know a little bit about your background, like what you got, what got you involved and who got you involved in outdoors and and everything. We'll start with Anastasia, kind of tell a little bit about like how you got involved with outdoors. I know you hunt, I know you fish and stuff. Then we'll get Sarah Knight to kind of tell a little bit about her, and then we'll get into kind of some of the stories and go from there. But Anastasia, if you would kind of introduce yourself a little bit as far as like what you do, what what you're doing in your spare time, and then a little bit about your background, how you got involved.

SPEAKER_06

Awesome. Well, thank you all for having me first and foremost. Um glad to be here and um kind of sad that we're looking at a pond, we're not fishing right now, but that's okay.

SPEAKER_07

Amen to that.

SPEAKER_06

Um I'm Anastasia Patterson. I am from right around State Burger, live in Sumter, basically, South Carolina. Um, and I grew up hunting and fishing my whole life before I could literally walk. My dad would take me out with him, and it's just kind of something that was my dad's passion that became my passion from a very young age. Um, I was like four in the Sumter item for the fishing stars and like the all-star sports. Everyone was like doing real sports, and I was over there doing fishing, which to me wasn't not real. And then um I think it was 2006, the Bassmaster um Elite series, which at the time was named I think the Red Man or something like that during that time. Um, whatever it was called, it was a different tournament series through Bassmaster that would now be the same thing was at John Sea Land. And me and my daddy had been fishing all day and I saw these boats, and I'm like, you have to take me to wherever they're going. And we went to the ramp, and um the rest is kind of history. Preston Cook ended up having like a serious um giant win at the time. I think it was like 98 pounds of bass, which was a lot of fish for Santee with that win that he had, and it just lit a fire in me. I told my daddy I want to do that one day. And then um he kind of just never said no. He said no to a lot of things, but not hunting and fishing. And then um went off to college at Presbyterian College. There wasn't a fishing team at the time, but um ended up being the integral part in getting one started, and then kind of the rest was history. I learned everything in the fishing industry from um being on that team because we did like the Bassmaster Classics, so I had to learn how to talk to like different sponsors and all that. And um, we worked with a lot of people and thankfully our coach was actually a scientist, so he knew kind of everything about why fish do what they do down to the very metric pressure, whatever. He's a pretty smart guy, yeah. Um literally just studied the fish all the way down, and that kind of made me love it even more. Um I thought I was gonna go to law school, but I was praying to the Lord that I didn't have to. And just kind of I graduated college was it's a very long story, but I graduated college and I was supposed to be going to law school and it was like kind of this week in between the end of school and graduation at PC. It's like a basically a party week with fraternities where you go down to the beach and um on the way back I had gotten a call from a lady who's like, hey, there's a tournament coming up next week um after you graduate, and there's still one spot left if you want to jump in. I'm like, oh, I don't know, I have to figure it out. I'll see, but go ahead and put me down. I'll talk to my dad when I get home. Um then I graduate and I hadn't really decided if I was going to school or not, and COVID came, so it's kind of right on time, and then during that process, um I my dad told me that one of his fraternity brothers had passed away, we're going to a funeral in Kentucky, and a man opens up a garage to a blue and white bass boat at the time um that had a bow on it, and I was so daggum confused like what is this happening? But yeah, so I got a bass boat um of my own. I had always obviously fished with my dad and a bunch of his buddies um out of the battery.

SPEAKER_00

Daddy got you a bass boat out of the blue.

SPEAKER_06

Out of the blue, and that's what I named it too. So that's crazy that you said that. Really? Yeah, but it was named out of the blue because it came out of the blue boat.

SPEAKER_00

Did not know that, y'all. Yeah. Big Steve did some of that stuff for y'all back in the day, right?

SPEAKER_06

That's a little godly thing.

SPEAKER_04

It was always had a boat to fish out of, but I never got a bass boat with a bow on it.

SPEAKER_06

Well, I fished out that boat uh for a long time, I think maybe five or six years, and then um I ended up fishing a little bit bigger tournaments nationally and signing with bass pro shops and I fish out of a nitro Z20XL, and I love that boat. Um, this one's got me spoiled this year, so I'm kind of nervous. I might want to end up buying that one too at the end.

SPEAKER_04

We thought for a while we were gonna have a nitro, didn't we, Scott? We were the well spoken ministries at a raffle. Uh we had a ticket in for our team to hopefully win a nitro, but somebody else won it. You mentioned, Anastasia, that you had to in in college do a lot of uh your major in the fish club, you ended up talking to a lot of sponsors and stuff. And I'm thinking you really paid attention in that class, and you must have gotten an A, because I saw you pull up in your nice Toyota truck out here with uh sponsors all over it. You've talked you've taught a lot of people into some good sponsorships. It looks really, really good. You are indeed a professional.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I think we need a mostly legal sticker on that truck. Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_06

We might be able to make it happen. So there's a little thing that a lot of guys do is um I'm obviously one of only a few girls that fish uh the baker tournaments, and we all kind of have our own stickers and we'll like stick one on someone's boat or truck and see how long it takes them to figure out that it's on there.

SPEAKER_03

Well, there might be one out there. You just you never know. We got a pile of stickers, we'll leave with the viewers.

SPEAKER_00

You can put them all over those boys' boats, that'd be great. Yeah. So so y'all, and just a little background. So Anastasia's out there, she she's competing um on Open Series, two different divisions and open series of Bathmaster, which is it's it's up there, and it's up there on the tiers, and um, and so she she's out there competing against the big boys. I mean, there's a lot of the like elite pros that fish that trail as well as as the other individual anglers, and so she's competing against the the people you see on TV all the time.

SPEAKER_04

So to be clear, Bubba, she is surpassed you, right? She's way above you in tiers. Once again, she's probably taking my money a lot.

SPEAKER_00

I'm just telling it right now.

SPEAKER_04

That's awesome. I want to make one more connection about Anastasia for our listeners. A lot of our listeners that are at least in Sumter or from Sumter will remember our police chief, Patty Patterson. That's your mom, right? Uh, I when I first met you at Simpsons several months ago, I didn't have that connection, but Bubba clued me in a little bit later. She was a great police chief. A lot of people love and adore her and so she's done a good job of children.

SPEAKER_00

Sing like a bird, too. She's amazing. She came to First Baptist and sang one time for us. She's she's amazing and very talented, extremely talented.

SPEAKER_03

Just to be clear, she's never been uh in the DNR, has she? My mama? I don't know, sir. That makes me feel very comfortable.

SPEAKER_06

And obviously I fish for a living, but I I told people if I could have the chance, I would just be hunting. I'd just be fishing for fun.

SPEAKER_00

There you go. Yeah. I love it. All right, so Sierra Knight, give us a little bit about your background and tell us that like what you're doing in in now as far as what you're doing for a living, and then also with your like outdoor stuff, tell us a little bit about what's going on with you. We we want to hear it all.

SPEAKER_05

Okay. Um so I do insurance for a living. Um, got into insurance because of my dad, got into hunting and fishing because of my dad. Um, my mom used to graciously make trips to where we were hunting to come change diapers and do everything else just so I could go be with daddy. Um, and he said he would really start taking me on my own when I could use the bathroom by myself. And so whenever that happened, that's when it really started rolling. I was going on deer hunts with him. I was dog driving at, you know, two, three, four years old. Um, most I laugh about this all the time because you know, most little girls have their pictures that were taken at Belk or JC Penny and their little pink dresses and their big bows on their heads, and all of my pictures are me in little camo overalls and my plastic BB gun. Like it was it was a thing that's been there from the beginning. Um, but I killed my first deer at seven by myself and my first turkey at eight. So it just, I feel like it immediate spark. I mean, I had been around it for a while um before that, but actually doing it on your own is a totally different feeling. Um, my dad had me in the public timber in Arkansas at 12 years old. Um water up to the top of my waders, and you know, loved it, fell in love with it. And I've been back numerous times every year since then. Um he got me an insurance. He's done that since I was a year old. So he has always been being an insurance, he's worked his butt off to get to him where he can go and hunt and fish as much as he wants. And it was watching him love the path that he chose, you know, inspired me to do the same. So now I'm getting to sell insurance and hunt and fish.

SPEAKER_00

So her dad, Robbie, um, good friend of mine as well. And I remember when your daddy was was considering getting out of coaching and teaching and getting insurance business. I was in the insurance business. He actually called me and said, Hey, what do you think about this? And we kind of talked about the pros and cons of it. And um apparently I didn't scare him off because he he's jumped in and he's been very successful and just neat to see that and everything. So so pretty cool, pretty cool to see how that had evolved over time and everything. A little fact that you didn't know is Stephen and I actually worked for Lee and Associates, Creek Trotty Watson back in the day, and Stephen had an office at the last as you're going down, the last office on the left going out to the last one.

SPEAKER_05

That's my office.

SPEAKER_00

That was Stephen's office back in the day. Mine was mine was adnected to the last one going out on the right. Um, but we used to uh used to do a little work back there. We did more playing than we did working back then, and probably should have worked more. But anyway, so there's a little connection there, but didn't want to interrupt, but that's just kind of a little connection there.

SPEAKER_05

Between Steve Creech and Lathan Roddy being in there, when they come in, we only talk cutting and fishing too.

SPEAKER_04

So that sounds familiar.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. Um but I actually have a good friend, um, Kurtley, and nanny'd his kids for seven years now. Um, but he told me over and over and over and over again to make an outdoor page. He was like, This is stupid. All these people are on YouTube and doing all these things. Like, why are you not doing it? And then I hit that little age at like, I guess, 18, 19 years old, where I was like, do I really want all of this on my personal page? Like, because I didn't have the cute little Instagram where you go and see me and my friends at the beach and on all these little trips. It was strictly hunting and fishing. And I was like, you know what? Let's go ahead and make it. So finally, after like two or three years of him begging me to do it, I did it. And thankfully it's taken off. I mean, it's gotten me involved in shows, other podcasts. I've met so many good people. Um, have great connections from that. Um, it's crazy how fast stuff like that takes off.

SPEAKER_04

You know, you meet one right person and so for our listeners, if they wanted to come follow you or find you on social media, give them some handles or what to search for to find.

SPEAKER_05

Underscore SK's outdoors. So SKS Outdoors.

SPEAKER_00

All right, simple. How about you, Anastasia?

SPEAKER_06

You gotta where are you Facebook or where or um I'm everywhere, Anastasia Patterson underscore fishing, and then um on TikTok at Annalizpat A N A L I Z P A T. And then I do have a YouTube channel coming soon, um, before the summertime. I just am I'm pretty particular about what gets put out there, and I'm trying to just really tell the story of like my life and the people who get to hunt and fish around me, and I'm I'm really faith-based, so I want to keep like the Lord at the center of it, and I'm trying to do that intentionally. So that's been a little bit harder than just putting stuff out there. But on TikTok, you just see me post like random stuff every day.

SPEAKER_05

That's how my TikTok is. A little fit check. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

That's awesome. We are uh growing our social media presence, but we've got a lot to learn from you ladies. Uh, we've just been able to post some reels from these actual podcasts. But we like you, Anastasia, hope to get a YouTube channel up and running soon where we can have the long form videos of the podcast. But we got a little growing to do yet and a little bit more uh we need to learn, but we're getting there.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, we know once everybody sees Bubba's face regularly, they won't be able to get enough of mostly legal.

SPEAKER_00

You need a lot of bandwidth, okay, at that point. I guess that's what it's called. Who knows? I don't know.

SPEAKER_04

We can need some AIs what we're gonna need.

SPEAKER_00

All right, so well hold on real quick. So Stephen went there, we might as well say this. As you were talking about like your your outdoor conquest, your first deer at seven, your first turkey at eight. I mean, that's very similar, Stephen. He killed us first at 47 and 48. So very similar to Stephen.

SPEAKER_05

But that was just yesterday though, right? Right.

SPEAKER_04

Almost. I thought you were kidding when you called me this week and told me you were gonna take the gloves off. I thought you were just joking. The gloves are off, okay? This is incredible.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I think that both of our dads kind of are glad that we were like little boys instead of girls, even though we are girls. But we're like out there cleaning the deer and all that, so it made life a little bit easier around the hunt club for sure.

SPEAKER_05

I've always said I was the boy my dad never had. And he I swear he says it too.

SPEAKER_04

I'm impressed with both of you. I had a Scott and I had a sister and I have a daughter, and neither one of those girls ever cared about cleaning a fish or duck or skinning a deer or anything like that. So you guys are uh obviously a little bit uh different in that regard, but also very feminine and girly too. So you got a good piece.

SPEAKER_05

I love to say I I still love to dress up. Like I will do my hair and I will put my makeup on and I will wear a cute dress. But I'll also get up at 5 a.m. and go turkey hunting before you see me all dressed up like that.

SPEAKER_06

So real life Hannah Montanas.

SPEAKER_03

The best of both worlds.

SPEAKER_06

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_03

Well, let's go back to the uh the first uh kills. Um Sarah Knight, you mentioned yours. Uh tell us about the deer hunt, the details that you remember. Um, no detail is too small. Okay. So don't think, oh well, that doesn't really matter, because it's those little things that really connect with everybody who's listening.

SPEAKER_05

So my turkey story might be better than my deer. Um, but my deer story, my little sister was actually with my dad and I. We were in what felt like a one-person stand with me at seven, her at three. Um, she was playing on her Nintendo, not very quiet. I doubt I was very quiet at that age either. Um, and my dad went to go get down the stand first, you know, just to catch us in case we fell he had the gun with him. Um, and I'm like two steps down getting down behind him, and I look out over the food plot and I was like, that is a big deer. And I'm like, Daddy, that's a big deer. Daddy comes up the stand, he's like, go, go, go up. So we get up there, and I mean, I I don't know how this deer never ran off, but he stood there broadside, which felt like 10 minutes, uh, long enough for us to reload the gun, click the safety, get back in our seats, all three of us, um, and I shot him, dropped him dead, eight point at seven years old. I mean, a good deer. He was, I think, nineteen inches on the inside, so at seven, and I was stoked, which was crazy because we were getting down.

unknown

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's a great story. So, what were you shooting at seven? And I I assume you shot it before, but did you were you nervous as a seven-year-old shooting a rifle at a grown deer?

SPEAKER_05

Nah, I mean, I still get the shake, so I know, and my heart still beats out of my chest for every time I'm going hunting. Um, I was shooting a 223. Um, I don't remember I think I thought I missed because I saw the fire, you know, and you like see the big boom, and then I think I was just like so excited, I was just ready to go. And dad's trying to look through binoculars, you know, make sure I don't need to shoot again or anything like that. But I was I was ready. I was like, let's get in, let's go check it out. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You you talk about shaking, that kind of still to this day. I don't I don't get nervous before I shoot, but after I shoot, I can't climb out the stand. I'll fall down. I I got to sit there for a little bit. Oh, I'm nervous before I shoot. Before I shoot, I'm good. I'm pretty solid, but after I shoot, when I pull that trigger, everything falls apart. Oh no.

SPEAKER_05

The second I see something I know I'm about to kill, my heart starts. I'll have to tell myself, like, close my eyes and just take some deep breaths, because it I get going and my heart starts beating out my chest.

unknown

Pretty cool.

SPEAKER_04

How about you? You you mentioned you like to hunt as well, and I'm assuming that's deer hunting. How about when was that first kill for you?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I do a lot of different hunting, but my family owns a sportsman's club in Somerton they have for basically a hundred deers, it feels like. Um, and we run dogs too. So I killed my first deer in front of the dogs when I was six. Um, it was a six-point, so I got the name Big Six, but it also got the name because um there is a little Chinese restaurant that used to be across from the base. I'm sure y'all might have gone there and by the KFC. I wouldn't go in this day and time, sorry if you're watching.

SPEAKER_04

Um Twin Dragon, I think it was the Twin Dragon buffet.

SPEAKER_06

And um I was a little big for my age, still lamb. Uh, and the lady would say I was too big to be six, so I couldn't eat the food there um with the kid price. I had to eat the adult price. So the big six stuck on. Um I don't remember exactly what I shot it on, but I just know that like every man in Somerton and Clarendon County was so excited and that there was people coming, and then um, you know, you get um blessed by the deer. Oh yeah. And that's like still a thing in our hunting club. So there's lots of pictures of that roaming around still, um getting baptized in deer blood. And um My mom has never been more mad at my daddy than that night, I think.

SPEAKER_01

That's the way it is though.

SPEAKER_06

And then um my dad said, well if you're gonna kill it, you're gonna have to clean it. And so I pretty much just watched someone else clean the deer and um put it up there, cleaned it, and that was kind of I caught the bug from that, but I had already hearing the dogs run, just even thinking about it makes me get choked up sometimes. Like I love um I hope they never outlaw a dog driving, like I love it, and I want my kids to be able to do it too.

SPEAKER_03

So you're on your you're on your stand, you're you you hear the dogs, and you're holding a shotgun. Um tell us a little bit about the gun and what the deer did when you first saw him. Was he was he skimmed back or was he tiptoeing slipping?

SPEAKER_06

No, this was during the time like whenever we had beep beep boxes and Garmin was not as far ahead as it is right now. So you didn't really know, like, oh, the dogs are on this head right here. It was like you had to really watch, and I've always had like a good ear for knowing like what dog, whenever they strike out first, if if that's going north or south or east or west where they're going. And I kind of had learned like, okay, if you hear like Trixie first, then it's they're going to the bridge, like, because it just weird to how dogs relate to certain deer. And I would even be able to tell my dad, oh, that's gonna be a doe because this dog did it first. But this particular day was like, you know how sometimes a dog would just keep circling over and over again, and I'm like, they overran the track. And I was just eating snacks. My daddy doesn't like to bring snacks because it's too loud. Uh I think I had a 410, which I don't think I could have actually reached out to it, but I definitely crippled it enough to get close. Um, I just know that in my mind the deer was coming mock Jesus at me. Yeah, and it was gonna run me over, if anything else, but after That I feel like this was also at a time where you could kill a lot more deer than you can now. Um, so I kind of got on a little spree there where I had a cowhorn curse. I revisited that a few years ago. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

It's not an 11 point.

SPEAKER_06

Right. Curse of the cowhorn. But yeah. Um I think it was a 14, but I don't a hundred percent remember. I think my dad might have actually ended up finishing it off for me. But yeah, I've had some scary deer encounters since then. Last year or the year before last, I had a doe that I knew I had killed it, and then whenever I got down there, she decided she wanted to come back to life and it was not fun.

unknown

I've had that.

SPEAKER_07

I've had that after the couple.

SPEAKER_04

I know by those death throws not being really death throws. Death throws, yeah. Pseudo death throws. You know what pseudo means, Bubba? That means false. Like it seems like it, but not just like clarification.

SPEAKER_00

Snoophole stopped.

SPEAKER_04

All right, so that we got some good first stories out of the way. That's impressive. Six years old, seven years old. You guys are killing stuff. You're about 20 years ahead of me. Maybe not quite 20. I was in college when I when I killed my first deer. We didn't do a lot of deer hunting. Scott did with some of his friends in high school, but our dad didn't take us deer hunting a whole lot. But the first time I killed one was up here. Uh Lincoln and I were coming over to hunt pretty regular that that fall. And I missed two deer. Like Sunday afternoon, we came back on a Wednesday. I missed again. And then the third time was a charm, and I finally hit him, and he was a small six point. But uh doing it at six and seven years old is pretty amazing, pretty impressive, and to be young ladies at the same time. I want to transition uh to another question that has to do with first, and maybe it's maybe it's only one happened one time, or maybe it's happened more. But tell me about the first run-in if you've ever had one with any kind of game warden or other law enforcement officer while you've been hunting or fishing or on your way. Tell us about maybe that time when you got in a little bit of trouble, as much as you'll tell.

SPEAKER_05

You want to go first? You got one. Sure. Um, never really had a run-in with game warden. I feel like we my dad, you know, has instilled in me, if you're gonna do it, you're gonna do it right.

SPEAKER_03

I mean mine too, for sure.

SPEAKER_05

But I mean, I that was the lay of the land, you know, this is how you do it. And he always said, you know, he he does a lot for me, don't get me wrong. But I mean, I've been having to be out there putting corn in feeders and just all the stuff. He's always made me be very involved, involved, and if you're gonna do it, then you're gonna do it right. Um, so I had never even, I don't think, even talked to a game warden before. I might have been checked on like a dove hunt or something like that when I was young, maybe before I even had to have a license. And um this hunting season killed a good buck, um, but also killed a bobcat same day.

SPEAKER_02

Um before or after the buck?

SPEAKER_05

Before.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, so you shoot the bobcat.

SPEAKER_05

Yep, bobcat comes out, and then right at dusk, big buck walks out into a field. I shoot him, I'm all excited, you know, whatever. I have my outdoor page, SK's outdoors. What do we do on there? We post what we do. Um, so I had taken a picture with my buck and my bobcat, posted it on Instagram, Facebook, all the things. Uh, I didn't think I was doing anything wrong. Bobcats kill turkeys. Like, bobcats are a nuisance. Um, I mean, whatever. Well, that night, you know, happens whatever we go to the processor, everything's fine. I go to sleep and I start getting phone calls at like 5 30 the next morning. And I was like, what?

SPEAKER_03

What what time of year was this?

SPEAKER_05

This was not yet. No, this was September or October. No, that is important. This was like September or October. Um, so not November. No. Key key point there. Um, so I start getting all these phone calls, and everybody's like, you need to delete that picture of the bobcat. And I'm like, why? Like, I didn't do anything wrong. Like, okay, and I start getting all these messages and all this stuff, and there's actually a guy from Sumter, and he was like, dude, I just got a ticket for this. Delete your post. And I was like, What? I'm deleting it, you know, I'm freaking out. I'm like, whatever. Well, D and I'm I had to go to North Carolina that day. I was actually going on a dove hunt in Lawrence with some family and then going up to North Carolina for friends and gave me. Get across, get across. No, but I ended up getting a call from a number in Columbia, and they said I'd been turned in, and I was like, okay, like for what? I still am completely oblivious at this time. I had no idea there was a Bobcat season. As much hunting. I had no idea there was a season as much hunting. I've literally been around my whole entire life. I had never heard that. Um, and I guess it's on me for not sitting down reading the book, but it's a lot of baby books.

SPEAKER_00

You heard the model word.

SPEAKER_05

But I um I mean, I told him, I was like, yeah, I mean, I was called. It was on Facebook.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, say something like, Well, my dad does this all the time. No, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_00

You should have seen the one dad killed the dad.

SPEAKER_05

It was bigger than mine. But I mean, I told him and they wanted to question me, and um this one specific DNR took things a little too far. He went and got my casing. He went and ran ballistics on the bobcat or on the chill, wanted the bobcat, checked it all out, all the things. I mean, it was taken to a whole nother level.

SPEAKER_00

DNR officer that did all that?

SPEAKER_05

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_00

I was just curious.

SPEAKER_04

That's good taxpayer money spent on ballistics. Yep. Dead cat.

SPEAKER_05

Uh-huh. Um, for a hundred and fifty dollar ticket.

SPEAKER_03

A turkey killer.

SPEAKER_05

Yep.

SPEAKER_03

So crazy. But so now I know. But there was no disputing it. Why why the ballistics?

SPEAKER_05

That's we all had the same questions. Like, why are we going through all this shit? I'll tell you where the bobcat is. I'll tell you where I shot it. Here's a pen. But like, I admitted to it. I told you I did it.

SPEAKER_03

So yeah, with our millions of listeners around the world, uh this guy might be out there. I'm sure maybe he could come on and explain. Yeah, we might we might have a uniform here.

SPEAKER_06

Can I be the uh what do you call it? The person in between the middle moderator?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that was it was a lot. Questions voice.

SPEAKER_00

So Fair Night Changer. You have had a ticket then. Wow. Stephen never you've never had a ticket, right?

SPEAKER_05

Steven also started 40 years after I did, so catch me in 40 years.

SPEAKER_04

Um tickets over here. Um is that your first and only it is.

SPEAKER_05

And I told them I was I I'm crying, like I'm terrified my dad's gonna kill me. Like, I'm I'm thinking, like, the way they scared me, I was like, my hunting license is gone. Like, why else are they taking this this far unless it's like something way more serious than shooting a bobcat out of a season? Like, I was freaking out. I was like, I've never even had a speeding ticket.

SPEAKER_01

Like, Stephen's way ahead of you in that ball, okay? A lot further ahead of you in that ball.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, um, before we talk about speeding tickets, um, I want to make a one funny uh tell you a quick funny story. This is sort of similar before we go to Anastasia and hear about any uh run-ins she's had. Um we I told a story a couple weeks ago of Bubba being with me on a youth day with my two boys, and they shot a turkey up here not far across the road. And it was a great day, and we got a turkey, and we I didn't put it on social media, but we passed it around to some family threads. And Sarah sent it to uh her family over in Florence, and her uncle is an outdoorsman and um loves to hunt, and she knew that he'd be proud of Benny for shit turkey. Well, the next day when she sent it to him, he calls me immediately. I couldn't get it, I was like at a meeting and so he calls again, then he texts, please call me ASAP 911, you know, kind of deal. And then Sarah says, Jim's trying to get a hold of you. And I'm like, what? I hope Jim's okay. Is there like a medical problem? Well, he's calling me to tell me turkey season's not in yet. And he doesn't, I don't need to be sharing that picture. Well, it was in. It was a youth day, but he didn't realize there was a youth day. But he was looking out for me. He was very worried that something similar was gonna happen, that that picture was gonna get in the wrong hands. There's a lot of people out there that like to turn successful people in, you know, trying to get people in.

SPEAKER_05

They said somebody literally called the Columbia Hotline and turned me in because they saw my post on my outdoor page. That person is a miserable person.

SPEAKER_01

Operation game thief. They were trying to get away.

SPEAKER_00

So yeah, Steven on that turkey deal, too. I mean, you know, Steven always being the legal eagle. I just just thought it was good to maybe remind him, hey, make sure you report this thing, even though it's U day, it still got to be reported. So I sent him a text, it's got to be reported by midnight. I think I sent him a text about 10 o'clock. About 10 30, he sends me back the little confirmation where it was reported. I know he was just kind of waiting to kind of report it, but yeah, oh yeah, that was all in due time.

SPEAKER_04

It was coming. We needed to make you nervous. I'd rather somebody explain to me what good comes of making everybody do that.

SPEAKER_00

Well, because that way they can tell they they're trying to do surveys to keep up with what's happening with the whole population.

SPEAKER_04

I want to wait a write another ticket.

SPEAKER_03

He was probably busy tending a fire, just making sure nothing nothing got out.

SPEAKER_04

I had a few things going on that week.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, if y'all came in, y'all have to notice how pretty the woods burnt off and everything. I heard that mentioned in the last one of the last if y'all need any like I know y'all both have family land, but if y'all need it burnt, do your boys, right?

SPEAKER_05

Land management 101, professional arsonist.

SPEAKER_02

All right, Anastasia, you're up.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, well, so I've never had a ticket, but uh I mean I dog drive, you have a lot of run-ins with DNR. Uh when you dog drive, especially property owners. Um, you can't really help where a dog goes, and that's part of the argument. Um, so multiple times I've had that, but I think it was maybe four years ago now, opening day of duck season. You look forward to that. The the day it goes out, the day it starts. Um, and uh, there's a guy who had messaged me on TikTok, like, hey, come hunting with me and all my buddies. And I'm like, Oh, cool, are any girls going? No, but you look like you know what you're doing. I'm like, okay, awesome. Meet him at the boat ramp. We go out. I think we actually went out like the night before and camped out. We get out there, we limit out, we get back to the ramp, and they're all panicking. I'm like, what's happening? They're like, Green jeans. Green jeans. I'm like, oh, what a worse. Yeah. And they're like, just play it cool, just play it cool. I'm like, I'm like, everything's great with me. I don't know what's happening.

SPEAKER_02

What cool?

SPEAKER_06

Well, they all ended up getting um a ticket. They didn't have hunt licenses, they didn't have um a duck stamp, and one of them had a warrant, so he went to jail. So I got to witness someone going to jail with DNR, but thank God it wasn't me or anything I had done wrong.

SPEAKER_00

But so you you do a lot of background checks with the people you go on to the city. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

So see, this this started a whole thing of my mama. I think with people you don't know.

SPEAKER_00

I bet the chief was not happy about that, was she?

SPEAKER_06

You know, I probably disappointed her a few times, but that's high on the list.

SPEAKER_04

Anastasia, do you think, just philosophically, do you think like George Washington or Thomas Jefferson had a hunting license?

SPEAKER_06

Um, you know what? I don't think so, but I do think that Jesus wanted some regulations because that's why there's only two on the arc of each animal. Because if you get too many, it might make it where they start to take over us.

SPEAKER_04

That's a fair point. I won't argue with you too much there.

SPEAKER_00

So no, I so in like all the tournaments and stuff and everything, no problem, no no wake, no no no going through a no wake or running a no wake or everything's always been good with all that stuff.

SPEAKER_06

It'll probably happen, but as it happened. Um mostly like the things that I run into problems with are co-anglers or like um I did have this, was a DNR, did have to show up. I was helping a man at John C Land, and he was by himself and his co had already left, so I went to get his trailer for him, and uh a man actually a sixteen-year-old man, young man behind me in the boat ramp, not only ran into his trailer that I was at the ramp with, not once, not twice, but three times so bad that he totaled the man's trailer while I was sitting still at the boat ramp.

SPEAKER_00

Wow.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Wow.

SPEAKER_06

Texting and in the boat line to load up after a long day.

SPEAKER_00

That's crazy. Sixteen years old. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

So be careful who you let, um, you know, put your boat on the trailer or go grab it and all that. Now I'm very anal about like, you just get in, I've got it, you just gotta get out, I've got it.

SPEAKER_00

So so that brings up something real quick, and and just fishing is interesting. Back when I I years ago when I used to fish somewhat more serious than I do now, um, a lot of terms we fished back then, you'd have a co you draw a co-angler. And I had some really in interesting experiences with some of my co-anglers. I'm talking about just they would argue with you, you try to tell them like I I think a lot of them get lied to and stuff. I really do. I mean, but I was I'd always trying to tell them to have a positive mental attitude. I always wanted them to have a positive mental attitude. Keep you tell these guys right here. I told them that attitude has a lot to do with fishing and everything, and what goes a matter of fact, I watched your your podcast the other day with the bath ma at the Bathmaster's Classic, and one of the girls, it might have been the Fisher girl or the other girl, was talking about like one of the things, and attitude with what she said made the most difference of everything. Is that not rule? Was that not right?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, 100%. Sometimes if even if you're like bed fishing, especially, like if I'm already going into it thinking that I've lost, you kind of already have, because someone else, especially, like there's a lot of guys, and not to say they're that's probably the wrong word, cocky, but that they go into each tournament knowing they're gonna kick in the teeth of the 298 other people. And if you go in and you're saying, I've already lost, you might as well stay on the trailer and not put it in.

SPEAKER_00

We heard it right here from a sponsored professional right here. Okay, there you go.

SPEAKER_04

He feels so vindicated. So just to be clear, I you can go out there and throw any bait you want to, any way you want to, as long as you have a positive mental attitude.

SPEAKER_06

That's not 100% true, but I do help coach a high school and a junior's team, and I've seen some crazy stuff. So I don't know. If you've got confidence in what you're doing, it does make you better. Like if you're on a cooking show and you're like, I can make macaroni out of anything in that kitchen. And they're like, Okay, guys, here's some Cheerios. You might be able to make it taste good if you have confidence, probably doesn't. But if long as you don't feel defeated, you can get up and go to the next one.

SPEAKER_00

That's what I'm talking about. So I'm glad you were here to kind of clarify. Touring professional, once again, y'all.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, just I'd like to make the point. I'm big on positive mental attitude. I think being an optimist is a big part of it, and you gotta have confidence. Uh, but sometimes our listeners were looking for a little bit more on the water section from Bubba than the positive mental attitude, like maybe a certain kind of bait or where to throw it or how deep or what lake. Bubba doesn't like to come off that information. He likes to just tell them to be positive. That's where we're going with that.

SPEAKER_00

Brick by brick, okay? And you gotta start with the foundation, okay? You gotta start with the foundation before we get all the way up to baits and stuff. We're getting there eventually. Bad foundation. I think it's a nomination. Well, very good. Um, so say or night. Going back to the hunting a little bit and everything, you you killed your first turkey when you were seven, right?

SPEAKER_05

Mm-hmm. Out at Tracy's camp, actually.

SPEAKER_00

At Tracy's camp. Yeah. And was Robbie calling? Who who was calling? What what was the story with that?

SPEAKER_05

Um, it's a really funny story, actually. Uh so Jason Browder had been running Tracy's camp at that time, um, and had seen this gobbler in a field right beside the cabins, and he was like, I I got him, you know, teed out. Let's go kill him. And we're like, okay. So Daddy's called every bird in for me that I've ever killed. Um, but except one, actually. Um, but we sit down. I'm seven. I don't know much. I have a little 20-gauge turkey gun. It's got the little handle on the front of it, you know. Um, and I guess I didn't shuck the shell in all the way, but it wasn't all the way clicked. Um, that bird came in hot. I mean, he was fired up. I think he gobbled all the way till he was 20 yards in front of me. I mean, he never quit. And I go to shoot, Jason Browder's behind me recording, and you can hear it in the film click. And I'm like, I don't know what to do. Dad's like, shuck a shell in. I'm like, it won't. Like, it was so stuck. And part of that was probably because I was a seven-year-old little girl. Like, I don't know what I'm doing. When that turkey, you know, he picks his head up, he starts butting, he's getting all mad, he goes off, he wanders off. Well, dad's clucking a little bit and he starts easing back. Dad leans all the way over from two trees over, shucks that shell out, gets another shell in. I shoot the bird because he comes back in, and in the video, you can see, you know, dad takes off running, he's all excited, you know. Stop the flop, you know, they're gonna fly away. So daddy leaves me, he runs. Well, when I shot the back little um legs on my stool came out, and I went backwards. And you can see in the video, you see the bird go backwards and me. So at the same time, both my feet went up in the air.

SPEAKER_04

Stop the flop. I like stop the flop. That was better than Bubba was yelling at my boys uh stop on his head. You should 18 times in our video. I mean, he was a little slow though.

SPEAKER_05

They will run off. They really will run off. Oh, I know. But once again, once again, when you miss the runoff, that happens too.

SPEAKER_00

I am learning that like you and Steven have lots in common. Because just like you, somebody's called every bird that Stephen's ever killed in, too. So that is awesome.

SPEAKER_05

Listen, I'm on this journey of doing it on my own. This is kind of crowd here for you.

SPEAKER_04

I'm like you recognize that. You're meaning to me, but that's okay. I'm gonna I'm gonna grant and bear it.

SPEAKER_00

We just uh that's that's I mean, just you he's a good thing. He really is a good guy. No, I mean you're just a good guy. You're teeing it up.

SPEAKER_04

Anastasia. Yes, sir. Um I'm impressed. I knew you were a bass fisher lady, fisher woman. Um, I didn't realize how much you enjoyed the outdoors and how much hunting you did growing up too. So I'm am I am I right to guess that if you're doing the bass master, is fishing your passion? I mean, if you had to choose one thing to do outside, is it gonna be fishing?

SPEAKER_06

I mean, I love to fish, fishing is my passion, yes. But I mean if I could probably choose to do anything outside, I kind of have this like dream to go hunting and fishing in every single continent. So funny that you're talking about that earlier. But like catch a fish in every state, including Hawaii. Kill a bird in every state, including Hawaii. But you know, you gotta have a lot of resource to do that, so that also would be something that I would tie into the YouTube, maybe eventually a show of like the quest. Yeah, something like that. He's he knows all the names for everything, apparently, but yeah, I don't know about if that would be it, but uh definitely some sort of adventures with Anastasia or something of that nature.

SPEAKER_04

So I spent some time in Africa. I think you ladies knew that I had spent some time over in East Africa. I had a chance to travel around a little bit different places and had some buddies who were hunting over there. Um do you have you I'm guessing you haven't had a chance yet, but is that on any of your radar coming up soon to try to make a trip over there for any hunting or maybe even fishing?

SPEAKER_06

So I've gone to Africa I think three times now. I've never hunted there, but I've gone on the safari and one of my good friends, Nina, is actually kind of involved really heavily in Africa with a hunting, I guess what what would you call it? A guy outfitter, yeah. Sorry. What word words? Um involved with an outfitter in Africa. Um and so she's like tried to get me to go out there. Just with my schedule, I literally don't have a single day besides maybe like the 4th of July. And I'm also like a people, like my people person. So when I do have time to like get home, I want to spend it with my people. I just got to be home for Easter before this, and it was like my little cousin had grown like two feet since I had seen him the last time. So it's just like it's a great life to be able to go wherever you want, but then it's also like great to grow where you're planted. So I'm kind of in the season of just figuring that all out right now.

SPEAKER_04

Where is your friend in Africa that's doing the professional hunting?

SPEAKER_06

I think that she's somewhere in South Africa. I'm not a hundred percent sure um exactly where. Whenever I was there, I s like met up with some other people through Cape Town and like the Fish Hook area um in South Africa.

SPEAKER_04

Fish hook, Scott knows about Fish Hook.

SPEAKER_00

Scott's been a how long were you in Cape Town, Scott?

SPEAKER_03

We were there, see, I was there. Uh in 2002 to 2004, two years. I actually lived in Fish Hook for two years. And uh I never did any hunting. We did some fishing, we did some diving for rock lobsters, which was a lot of fun. Also scary because Great Whites. I did the Great White shortcuts and are often seen. But um But yeah, that that place is one of those places where you're you're like if anybody's talking about their bucket list, you're like, you need to put Cape Town, you need to put you know the point on your list and going to see where the two oceans meet, you you know, you fly into Cape Town and see Table Mountain and And head down toward Simonstown, Fishhook, and then Simonstown, and then all the way to the point. It is unbelievable.

SPEAKER_00

Now Table Mountain is the big cliff right off the coast, that you can see from the ocean or whatever. That's right. Big flat top.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I hiked it, not not a great time. I studied abroad uh in Africa, so I did South Africa and then Morocco.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. Yeah, I just had that hike on uh Table Mountain. I did you know, we had teams come over from the States, and so that was one of the things we would take them to do on our you know, scenic day or whatever. So I made that hike a lot. A lot.

SPEAKER_06

My professor told us that Justin Bieber was at the top. This was like a girl thing you would get, but Justin Bieber was up there, but I thought he was lying, so we're taking our sweet time. He actually for some reason was there, but then he was on the gondola thing that we didn't know existed. So I would have taken that the whole time instead of hiking up there.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I actually prefer the hike. Um the gondola if you have any uh aversion to heights, the gondola is not your friend. Um noted. It's just it's just one of the yeah. So the older I get, the less I like heights, and those gondolas. I mean, it's you and a cable and 20 other people. Um but you know, they they're safe, they just don't feel safe.

SPEAKER_00

And Stephen, you hike what mountain you what mountain did you climb?

SPEAKER_04

Uh we hiked Mount Kilimanjaro. Kilimajaro, yeah. It's the tallest mountain in Africa. It was about a five-day hike in Holy Out, but it was a lot of fun and some unbelievable views that would rival Cape Town. I got to go visit Scott in Cape Town, and he's right, that's a special, special place. I was thinking about Africa and fishing as they should do, because in East Africa there's a lot of tiger fishing and a there's uh as much as there is professional hunting and guys that kill the African animals, there's also a lot of guys will take fly fishing tours and go to these rivers in East Africa and catch monster tiger fish, which essentially I don't know if this is exactly right, but it looked like a big striper with really sharp teeth. And you gotta be really careful and they're strong. And uh so I didn't really got to do that, but I'd love to go back sometime and get a chance to do that. It's there's stuff to fish and catch on every continent and every place. And I love your idea of getting to see the the different continents are the different states and doing that everywhere.

SPEAKER_03

I'm sure with you know the millions of listeners we have around the world, multiple continents, I mean you might get some real good leads. Right.

SPEAKER_06

Let me know. We can do we can collab.

SPEAKER_03

If you keep a positive mental attitude, you never know what can happen.

SPEAKER_04

Um Sarah Knight, how about you? Do you have we we got to talk to Anastasia about her plans and hopes to hit those 50 states and maybe get back to Africa? Do you have some stuff on your horizon that you're looking forward to in terms of getting out of the state and doing different things?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, um, obviously I've duck hunted in a lot of states. I can mark those off my list. Um I turkey hunting, I would love to do my grand slam. I think that's awesome. Um, people don't know what that is.

SPEAKER_04

A lot of people that are listening won't know. Tell them what the grand slam is for turkeys.

SPEAKER_05

Every what do you call it, a kind of turkey? Species of turkey. Yeah, I'm like, whatever. Oh um, so killing one of everyone. Uh I think there's five.

SPEAKER_00

There are five. There's a grand slam of the four, and then there's five though.

SPEAKER_05

Um, I would love to do that. I will say though, you know, I we you were talking about meeting people on TikTok, and like people will ask you to go do things. We're girls. Men love to ask us to come do stuff. It's just the fine line of like You couldn't even be safe at CNT. I think I mean there's a fine line between like, okay, I've actually made a friendship with these people and I can trust them rather than just somebody that's reaching out over and over and over again, asking you to come do something. So making sure you have that connection before you go. Um, but I love hunting at home. I like you know, walking out the back door and walking straight to the deer stand or you know, traveling five minutes, ten minutes, and going in the duck hole. I mean, I love I love here. Hunting in South Carolina is great. So and we have had the pleasure. We fished offshore, I think, a couple times now.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, we have. Yeah, out of Charleston.

SPEAKER_06

So yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, now uh we've talked about a lot of different stories. We've asked you some questions about some of those first and the law and et cetera. But uh, I imagine maybe you came here with one story, one or two that you know is uh relates really well and is maybe a funny story or very interesting story from your time in the outdoors. I want to give you a chance to share that. Maybe I'll start with Sarah Knight and work back to Anastasia. Sarah Knight is there one that you really want to let the world know about.

SPEAKER_05

I think mostly legal. Um we were talking about me hunting by myself, turkey hunting by myself. You know, my dad's killed, called in most of my birds for me. I have turkey hunted by myself a lot. I just haven't been successful.

SPEAKER_00

Um's your attitude.

SPEAKER_05

It's good, it's good, it's it's slowly declining now, but we're you know what? After this talk, it might be right back up. Very positive again.

SPEAKER_03

Maybe your point is taking the point.

SPEAKER_05

Um I actually went two days ago and sat down, had four birds gobbling. I was like, this is it. I mean, they were all within 150 yards. I was like, game over, easy. Um, really long story short, they all four came up in these beautiful burnt pines. Um probably not as burnt as those, but as they were the burnt pines. Well, I mean, if we can make a picture of that. Um, watched all four of them come in. I mean, I you literally could not picture anything more perfect.

SPEAKER_03

Four times?

SPEAKER_05

Four times is what I thought, you know, coming in. And I thought when they were gobbling in the tree that there were three here and one over here. Um, so they start coming in, they get we're gonna get a little more detail.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Are you a pure decoy or no decoy? No decoy. No decoy. You see kind of crumbs.

SPEAKER_05

I don't even o I don't even own a turn decoy. You gotta you gotta keep those men suspicious. Um, so I am watching all four of them come in. I'm positioned the completely wrong way because instead of coming from where they should have come from or where they were, you know, they're always gonna do something different. Yeah, well, I mean, it is what it is. I knew they weren't gonna come up the road. That was too easy.

SPEAKER_00

You know what a decoy does? It puts them where you want them to be.

SPEAKER_05

You know what a decoy also does? They see it and they say, I'm gonna sit right here. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Dr. With a fan up, and it's amazing what happened to you.

SPEAKER_05

Might try that more. Attitude is not positive. I said this works, I'm getting positive about it.

SPEAKER_00

This was the early morning. This was a morning hunt like you heard them on the brush and everything. I think go ahead.

SPEAKER_05

Yep, heard them watch them fly down, you know, see all four of them coming in. Well, I finally get it, they're coming, you know, close to my gun barrel. Again, I'm in burnt, tall, open pines. So I it's not like not a little bit cover. Yeah, I can't move. I don't have any brush in front of me or anything. And with eight eyes looking at me, one turkey can see good enough as is. But with eight, I just knew if I tried to take a chance and turn, I'd just mess it up. Well, I end up seeing one of them's a Jake, of course, because that's the one that comes straight to me, you know, right up the perfect line that I can see the whole time. So it's three toms, one Jake. I end up going to get a shot on the furthest Tom to the right, and I mean, as soon as I go to take it, the Jake walks out. And it was one of those situations where, you know, Tom was here, Jake was here. They were probably five feet apart, but when I was looking down my scope, I'm seeing both, and I was like, you know, can't kill Jake's anymore in South Carolina. And my luck, I would end up one like little pellet would hit him right in the head or something and knock him out. And you know, we're all the way legal, not mostly legal around here.

SPEAKER_00

So I'm self-reported. That's another thing we like to talk about on the street. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_05

I something would have happened. Like, there would have been a drone over my head or something. Like my luck, the DNR turkey. My luck, my luck, I would have been caught somehow, and I wouldn't have been able to live with it. Like it would have driven me nuts. So I ended up not taking the shot, but I was like, you know what, two more times, they're 10 yards right here. Walking this way, I just shoot those. I mean, I'm not worried about this one. He's a little bit bigger, but that's fine. I mean, as soon as I'm like, got this game plan, trying to catch my breath because my heart is beating out of my chest. I'm shaking. Like, I'm trying to tell myself, close my eyes to like catch my breath.

SPEAKER_03

Yep, positive middle net.

SPEAKER_05

Yep, yep. All of a sudden, right out my right eye, here comes a coyote. I mean, straight through the middle, bust him, runs him off. I mean, completely ruined my whole morning. So that's how turkey hunting by myself. I did not. I did not hear.

SPEAKER_02

I don't wonder if it was coyote season. Put him on you, put him on you, put him on you.

SPEAKER_00

Instagram store.

SPEAKER_05

He was a little too far for the turkey shot, but is there really a coyote season? No. There's not. There's a bobcat season, though. There is a bobcat season.

SPEAKER_04

When is that?

SPEAKER_05

Uh after Thanksgiving. Until read your book, Don't Ask Sarah Knight. Yeah, I I won't shoot one again, so don't ask me. I don't need to know.

SPEAKER_00

I bet if you shoot one, he won't go on your Instagram.

SPEAKER_03

I can tell you that. Well, we had a similar situation happen to us last week. The first time this has ever happened to me. Um, I had my son Benjamin, he's 11. He hadn't killed a bird yet. We we got close a couple times last year. He's been on uh, you know, multiple hunts previous years, but last year we really set out to make it happen, and it didn't. He had he also had a uh Jake walking in front of a Tom and and couldn't shoot. And uh so this year we were uh out last week, had a Tom and a hen on the edge of the field, and she was making all kind of racket. And but it wasn't like it wasn't she wasn't just yelping, she was clucking, she was mad about something. My back was to her, so I couldn't see any of this. Benjamin has a phone and he's he's videoing. Anyway, long story short, she was clucking at a hawk that swooped down on her he says right when she flew out of the tree. And that hawk ended up in a tree above us, and when the time came out of the woods to meet up with her, uh the hawk swooped down again, and he's got video of the hawk running both turkeys into the woods. She shut up, he never gobbled, and of course we never saw him again.

SPEAKER_05

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_03

And I said, Benjamin, this is a tough hunt. You know, it's it didn't end like we wanted it to, but I've been hunting turkeys for a long time, and I've never, I've never seen a hulk run a turkey out of a field. And so it's kind of a cool hunt, yeah, but not exactly what you want.

SPEAKER_05

I'm determined that my second bird this year, I'm gonna like I'm gonna do it by myself. I'm determined.

SPEAKER_04

I've had stop to flop.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I've had four good hunts the last four mornings. I've had birds within 150 yards, and I'm bound and determined I'm gonna finish it.

SPEAKER_04

Buffalo wants me to ask you, what was the address of that property again? Yeah, drop that pin.

SPEAKER_06

I need to call uh someone named Ed later this time.

SPEAKER_03

Oh Ed. He knows where that is, I can promise you.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, he does. We call him actually for some dog drivers around us that like to come sit in our front yard. Like, I mean, we've drove up and they were under an oak tree in our driveway and looked at it at my daddy and said, Oh, Mr. Nally told me I had permission to be here. Oh, well, I'm Mr. Nally, nice to be.

SPEAKER_00

Been there doing the story. I'm sitting in the deer stand on a piece of property we had down in Westfield one time, and I'm I'm I see a guy come walking down the road. And um he comes walking just like he owns the spot. I'm watching him, he's got a rifle on his back, I'm walking right by, and I'm sitting in the stand, he doesn't know I'm in the world. And I whistled at him and he looked up at me and I kind of gave him the motion, like, what are you doing? And he said, This property's posted. And I said, Yeah, my name's the one on the sign. And like he out, like he was he was sticking to his guns, like he he he he acted like he was supposed to be there and everything, but truly like this property's posted. I'm like, yeah, I posted it.

SPEAKER_07

It is really pretty bold.

SPEAKER_00

I mean sometimes people, I guess you just gotta rub it. You have to act like you belong and it works, I guess. So I don't know. It's pretty interesting that that whole deal. So you've had to run them off, but so hunting close to the house. So so out there, if y'all in the insurance world and you're looking for night, um, she'll call you back, but it's probably gonna be after about 10 o'clock in the morning. She's uh she's on a mission right now.

SPEAKER_05

I am on a mission right now. I am on a mission.

SPEAKER_00

I like selling insurance. You gotta have a positive mental attitude when you go out.

SPEAKER_05

It's hard. It's hard, but it's it's fun.

SPEAKER_04

I can attest to needing a positive mental attitude for that. For sure. Uh Anastasia, tell us. I know there's a story in there, bacon, you want to share.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, so y'all know how your daddy tells you you like you're not supposed to talk while you're fishing, it'll scare the fish away. Well, we got on a really good bite kind of near the swamp um a couple years back on October 13th.

SPEAKER_00

What kind of bite was this?

SPEAKER_06

It was a the bass were biting in the water, in the corner of the mouth.

SPEAKER_00

In the water, in the water. Give Bubba all the time. Yeah, the swamp. Okay, the swamp's kind of a big area. We know that's above out 95, but let's talk a little more about that.

SPEAKER_06

So if you know me, you probably know where. You could guess. And uh you know, digging Freddie there? Freddie? No, he he probably fished there a few times and Chad and it's a pretty communal. We're the communal area of the lake. Yep. They probably both have fished it though. Um But Daddy kept saying, You talking too much. I'm like, I'm catching, you're not, you're just getting frustrated with me for no reason. Well, he showed me I had two treble hooks on one side and the other one coming out, and then the top treble hook up here, if that tells you what I was throwing. But pretty much all all the troubles besides one had my mouth completely shut. And the fish, six-pounder flopping on it, so you had to cut it off. The fish is still attached, so we did have to doctor up the fish a little bit.

SPEAKER_03

Hang on, hang on, time on, time on the house. Yeah, how did we get from you were catching them to the city?

SPEAKER_06

We were catching them and then I was released. You were caught. Yeah, and then my daddy went to set the hook and the fish came out of the water, and so did the bait. And it went straight and slapped me in the mouth because I was just yapping a lot. I mean, I don't know if you've ever been bass fishing, but it's not like a gentle giant. It was just like a I mean, it was a six-pounder, but he was acting like it was a ten pounder, like he really wanted to get it in the boat. And um, yeah, I had to hush my mouth because I couldn't talk, and then it was numb.

SPEAKER_00

Um Did you try Bubba's patented hook removal? That's a little different ball game right there. I don't know, that's a little different ball game right there when you got multiple hooks.

SPEAKER_06

Well, like I said, fish were biting, so we just cut it off, and I had to keep the hooks in my mouth so we were done fishing.

SPEAKER_00

Stayed fishing?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. Good gracious. We stayed out there, and then my mom was very ill when she found out. I bet you was.

SPEAKER_04

You are tough, and it's a few.

SPEAKER_06

I got it out a little bit of um I just got not even like filler, it was just like a little bit of something they put in there and it numbed it and made sure, got a tetanus shot. And when I about went back out there the next morning, caught them again. Then the tournament came and they were gone.

SPEAKER_00

We're gonna throw on a devil's horse by any chance?

SPEAKER_06

No.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, I just would that make you happy. Well, I'm just saying, that's a that's a staple I had danger's mill. Devil devil's horse is a big deal.

SPEAKER_04

My dad is known for the devil's horse. He doesn't like to throw a whole lot of other baits or lures.

SPEAKER_00

Baits or lures.

SPEAKER_04

He'll throw an old worm, a Texas red worm, and then the devil's horse. That's about all he does. I mean, a robot.

SPEAKER_06

Probably smart man. He was the other rebellious trip. I heard y'all have a heck of a tournament out here.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, Anastasia, hold on. What's that? What's that? What's it? Anastasia. So, I know like you fish on the open series and everything. Uh-huh. And like, you know, the prize, you see the elite series one day to get the big blue trophy to get to hold up the blue trophy and everything. Scott, reach over there and Steven, show her, like, I know that's big, but but this is what we fish for out here, Anastasia.

SPEAKER_06

I mean, that's probably a lot easier to hold up.

SPEAKER_00

Look at that right there, Anastasia. Could you imagine? Hey, I'll tell you what, hold her up like you won the elite series one time. I mean, just like when you get to hold that up one day, you will have arrived. You are actually in the presence of the people that have won that trophy the most. That's right.

SPEAKER_03

And you just did what Stephen Dingins has never done.

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That's not true.

SPEAKER_00

That is absolutely 100%.

SPEAKER_06

You know what? Your turn. You know, I've actually heard that it's bad luck to hold the trophy, so you might have ruined that for yourself.

SPEAKER_04

My problem is because I made the trophy and I helped me a lot. But I was actually making it, and so that's probably why I've never, well, I have never won it in a way that would satisfy these gentlemen here.

SPEAKER_05

If you um keep a positive mindset, you might win this year.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I might be able to give you some tips before. I like that.

SPEAKER_04

I like where we're going there. You know, if my uh if my fishing partner can't make it, Anastasia, then you might be on the short list. Alrighty. George, if you're out here, I need you to keep keep that calendar clear because I got some backups.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I mean, we've never had a female on the mostly legal podcast, and we've never had a female in the Dinkinsville Classic. Now, I mean, it might be time.

SPEAKER_06

Maybe me and Sarah Knight will get an invite to the We'll be our own team.

SPEAKER_04

Here's the problem. We don't want you to beat us. You would be in your own division. We would. We would.

SPEAKER_00

You can win a female division. I'll just win the Dinkinsville Classic Division.

SPEAKER_06

Are you doing this out of boats? I'm assuming. Okay, yes.

SPEAKER_04

We do it out of boats, and we usually have five to six boats, just depending on the year. Um, and we have we have a good time. And honestly, it's a whole lot more talking than it is catching, but we have we have a good time doing it.

SPEAKER_00

Qualifying is a lot more complex than just fixing than getting elites. I mean, this is really it takes a lot to qualify.

SPEAKER_04

Strategic process. You gotta really know how to bump those gums.

SPEAKER_06

Fellowship and tradition goes a long way. So that sounds like y'all got a good little tournament going on.

SPEAKER_04

Pretty funny. Well, I want to thank you both for taking time out of your uh very busy schedules, uh, doing the things you do outdoors to come spend time with us on the podcast. Uh, it's been a lot of fun. And not having known you very well, only known you from afar, I'm amazed at the stories that you have told and the things y'all have done, not just as ladies, but young ladies. And uh, you got a lot of fun outdoor uh experiences ahead of you. So thank y'all for coming. We're gonna um wrap this episode up. I want to make sure I let Bubba andor Scott have a last word. If there's anything else they want to say or ask.

SPEAKER_00

No, I just want to thank y'all for coming. I mean, we've had some good time to tell the stories. I know y'all have some more, so we may do some more and and possibly get another episode in, but we are certainly glad to have y'all for sure.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I echo all that. Uh very impressive stuff from you ladies. And as always, I just want to give a shout out to our sponsors. Really appreciate uh the partners that we have out there, and we couldn't do this and listen to this kind of this level of sportsmanship uh without uh that help. And so we really appreciate the sponsors out there. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_04

Yep, as we wrap up this segment, we're gonna throw it over to Scott for the Word segment. But we want to thank everybody for listening out there in the mostly legal land. I look forward to jumping back to another episode with you next Monday morning.

SPEAKER_03

Hey, thanks, Stephen, and uh welcome back to the word segment. Uh, this mostly legal Monday. We trust uh you're having a good week so far. I want to give you some encouragement, uh something to think on from Proverbs 25, uh, verses 11 and 12. It reads this a word fitly spoken is like apples of gold in a setting of silver, like a gold ring or an ornament of gold is a wise reprover to a listening ear. Encouragement here is just to uh be careful with our words, uh, not not just in the negative, like we've talked about previously, but also in the positive. Like think about ways you can encourage people. Um I love this idea, apples of gold and a setting of silver is a word fitly spoken. Like we should be looking for opportunities to um to add and to affirm and to encourage. And whether this is with our spouse or with our children, um, you know, there's there's often times we gotta correct and uh discipline our kids, but there's often also times where we we miss opportunities to encourage and build them up. Uh whether it's a grade in school or uh something that they've done well with a musical instrument or on the sports field, look for ways to encourage your kids, uh to encourage your spouse, to encourage your friends. Um, you know, I I can probably use this more than the rest of y'all combined. Um I love uh a snarky uh witty cut or sarcasm. And uh and so this is a real challenge for me personally. I I trust it's an encouragement to you. Look for ways this week to uh to intentionally and purposefully uh encourage somebody, build them up, um, let them know that you've noticed something in their life that uh is good uh and that they can continue. Uh because as we do that, um we um we add life and we add beauty uh to the relationships that we have. The second part of this verse um is similar, but it's about reproof. And so when we do need to correct, and those times come, certainly, um the the wisdom here in in verse 12 is. To be wise in how we do that. Be careful. I think wisdom encourages thoughtfulness, carefulness. Don't be long-winded. Say what we have to say in an encouraging and yet correcting way. And then again, for me, don't be offended if they don't listen, if they don't take your advice, if they don't follow what you think should be done. At the end of the day, you've said your piece, and then now it's the responsibility of the listener to do what they will with what you've shared. I hope this is some wisdom for you, encouraging to you. I hope you have a great week, and we'll talk to you soon.

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