Al Kushner: How to Optimize Your LinkedIn Profile and Use Ai to Attract More Clients

In this episode of the Passion Millionaire Podcast, Robert Roth speaks with LinkedIn strategist, speaker, and author Al Kushner about how professionals can use Ai and LinkedIn together to attract more leads and build authority online.

With more than 30 years of experience helping companies close deals, Al shares practical strategies for optimizing your LinkedIn profile, creating authentic content with Ai tools, and positioning yourself as a trusted expert in your niche.

The conversation also covers how LinkedIn newsletters, carousels, and video content can significantly increase your reach, as well as how to use Ai tools to generate ideas while still keeping your content personal and credible.

If you want to turn LinkedIn into a consistent source of visibility, trust, and new opportunities, this episode provides practical insights you can apply immediately.

Contact Al Kushner: 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/al-kushner/

Listen to the podcast:
https://rockandrollyourdreams.com/podcast/

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:02

Create a life of entrepreneurial freedom with insights from successful creatives, entrepreneurs, and investors. Discover how they overcame challenges and turn their biggest dreams into reality. They share their personal success playbook so you can build the business and life you truly want. Welcome to Passion Millionaire, the podcast by Robert Roth. Rock and roll your dreams.

SPEAKER_02 0:29

Welcome to today's episode of the Passion Millionaire podcast with somebody who is known from TV. He has uh spoken on Fox TV, NBC, ABC, CBC, and other channels, has spoken on big stages, corporate stages, has worked with Fortune 500 companies. He has 30 plus years of experience helping companies close deals. And he has a very specific experience or expertise combining AI and um closing, finding leads on LinkedIn. So I'm super excited to learn from Al Kushner today what's the best way to transform your professional brand brand on LinkedIn and uh make more leads happen and do that in a way that is very authentic and very very personal. So excited to have you on. Al Kushner, welcome.

SPEAKER_01 1:23

Thank you, Robert. Looking forward to uh being on the program.

SPEAKER_02 1:27

Yeah, thanks very much. And I'm excited to have you reintroduce yourself real quick. Just let us know, add on to what I've said so far. Please also feel free to correct, um, let us know who you are, and then we dive into uh all the details.

SPEAKER_01 1:42

Well, we've got to mention my book, The Um AI LinkedIn Advantage, which is my latest book out there, talks about how to use uh AI technology with your LinkedIn uh profile to uh optimize and uh hopefully uh dominate the competition. That's really what it's all about. So yeah, glad to share some insights and appreciate the opportunity.

SPEAKER_02 2:04

Yeah, exciting. Um let's dig right into that. Like, what made you feel like you have to write that book and what is it if you would have to hop right to the core of it? Like, what is it somebody would get out of it, especially also freelancers or you know, startup entrepreneurs or companies who are making somewhere between one and ten million, you know, what could they learn from it?

SPEAKER_01 2:27

Well, the simple truth is that uh AI technology uh is is sort of a breakthrough, I think, when it comes to uh using uh LinkedIn uh because it'll help you to optimize your profile, help look for keywords, help to create content. Um and content is king on LinkedIn, so you really, if you want to be a thought leader, you you provide content, and that's exactly what AI can help you with to uh use it as a way to um you know gain trust and gain authority. So that's really what it's all about.

SPEAKER_02 3:00

Yeah, absolutely. And now I'm curious. I mean, obviously everybody knows, okay, there's ChatGPT, and it's possible to create content with ChatGPT. But now what makes really high quality content? What is the difference between somebody who just you know pulls up ChatGPT and there you go, there is content and the content that you would create on the highest level?

SPEAKER_01 3:26

Well again, ChatGPT is just one of many AI technologies available. And I wouldn't rely on just one technology, I would use a multiple of technologies because that's really important because every AI technology has its own specialty. So uh when it comes to uh providing um value to whoever you're connecting with, uh the content you're creating should be authentic and not just replicated, let's say, by using ChatGPT, because sometimes people just are lazy and they just post it. And uh it's surprising that they realize that uh you know the quality is not what they are are expecting. You know, a lot of times it could be even hallucinations for the most part when they're posting. And they they realize it's too late that they post it and they say, oops. And that really uh ruins your credibility right there. You know, you you have to be original and authentic. You can use Chat GPT for, you know, perhaps an ideas uh you want to look at, perhaps an outline, but don't use it as an end-all because you'll find it to be uh short, uh a lot of shortcomings with that. So it's technology is there, but it's not perfect. So you really need to um you really need to look at it more closely before you use these tools. So it's uh you know, it comes across being authentic.

SPEAKER_02 4:42

Yeah, 100% agree. And I mean everybody who is using LinkedIn professionally knows there is a lot of content out there that feels kind of how to say that, mushy, or it's like it's there, but it's it doesn't really hit something that is super on point and differentiating from everybody else in the same niche. So how would you actually fix that problem so that whatever software you're using, I'd be curious to learn about that as well. But so that the the content that you're creating is on point, is authentic, and doesn't hallucinate. How would you fix that?

SPEAKER_01 5:20

Well, the fact is that you want to look at what you're trying to accomplish. Are you trying to create a newsletter, are you creating a script for a video? Uh and then if you are, you know, you want to come up with ideas that will resonate with your, you know, listeners, your uh your people who are subscribing to your newsletter. You gotta offer value, you gotta touch on pain points that are concerns for them. And that's where you can reach out to uh AI technology to come up with ideas for articles, ideas for uh scripts or newsletters, to really present in a way that it comes across as um I would say uh value to whoever you're connecting with. You know, not just you know producing articles for the sake of it because what you think is important may be different than what the uh the your readers are are different from their point of view. So always try to uh provide uh information that is going to be that's gonna resonate well, that's gonna touch on pain points that will help perhaps you can provide a uh solution for though those issues that are concerns for your readers. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 6:26

So basically you need to have a a profile of who is your reader and understand exactly what do they need to to read, to see, so that they dig in and um get value from it. Is that is that right?

SPEAKER_01 6:42

Yeah, exactly. So uh and you you want to be um you know selective on on the connections you're gonna be approaching. Because a lot of people want to reach out to you, but they may not be your target audience. So you really want to perhaps ask them to follow you instead of actually connecting, because that's gonna make a difference in terms of your uh connecting with the right people, you know, because you only have a certain amount of connections that you can do. I think it's 30,000 is the limit. You're quite surprised how fast you can get to that limit by accepting everyone, you know, to connect with you. However, but if you you know change your profile and indicate instead of you know ask to connect but to follow, well guess what? You can have unlimited amount of followers. And I think that's the approach that you should do on your profile is to make sure you change that to followers. And those who want to connect with you, you can evaluate whether or not they are worthwhile uh you know of of you connecting, you know, because being selective is gonna make a difference, especially when you decide to do outreach, you can connect with someone who's gonna be of value, you know. That's that's a key issue right there, is uh it's quality over quantity.

SPEAKER_02 7:53

Yeah, it makes total sense. And then now let's say you have achieved this step together with a client or somebody who just listened to that, takes that advice and then switches the profile and then narrows down the the niche, narrows down basically the the readers, the audience, right? But you were using AI in some way. So how would you make sure that if you're producing content through AI, whatever types of tools, how how would you produce that in a very efficient, effective way so that it's not hallucinating and it's that that the content is really on point for that that audience?

SPEAKER_01 8:35

Well, uh again, um I give you an example. Like I have a number of newsletters that I use uh that I send out each week. I have about five different newsletters. My target audience is usually uh referral partners. So I have accountants, I have attorneys, I have financial planners, I have insurance agents, I have event planners. Um the information that I provide to these individuals are very specific for their particular uh marketplace. So what I send to a CPA would be different than to send to an attorney. So I would use various forms of AI technology. Um to be honest with you, I don't use ChatGPT uh for that purpose. I use Perplexity, for example. I use um Google has their own excellent one, um uh Gemini, I believe. And um there's another one that's also great, Jasper. Uh these are all excellent tools, and I use a combination of these tools to come up with ideas for topics that are touching on the pain points of my uh newsletter subscribers. Because again, each week they look forward to reading something that's gonna help them achieve results, better results on LinkedIn, and that's why I help uh by reaching these technologies to see what ideas that they can uh come up with that is ideal for my target audience. But I even go a step beyond that too, and I create AI agents, okay, that help me. And they are basically uh created in a way that uh has a certain purpose. You know, one agent would be focusing on newsletter content, another one would be focusing on outreach strategies. Uh and uh I basically created a team of advisors on AI that helped me to make my decisions on the strategy I take each week and how to uh focus and on uh what best to uh reach my audience, which resonates well. And it's surprisingly uh effective.

SPEAKER_02 10:31

Okay, yeah, that's interesting as well. Um the AI agents, I I'd like to uh dive into that as well, but I'm still curious. I mean, now you have explained that you use AI, those different tools to generate ideas that are very specific for this target audience. Now I assume that you're not only generating the ideas, but probably the articles, the content itself. Um is that so? And if yes, like how would that look like until you have the finished article that you that is ready to post and high quality?

SPEAKER_01 11:08

Well again, once I select a topic, then I would use AI technology to get research on the latest trends and updates on that particular subject itself. And then once I've got that information, I create a a Word document, and then I use uh services like Grammarly, which helps to uh create uh sentence structure and help with editing uh to make it look polished. And then I add my own uh insight of what uh what worked for me uh into the article and then produce in a way that it comes across as being authentic. You know, it's you know you use it as a tool, you know, to do the research, to do the grunt work, all right, and then use services like Gramley to help polish it and make it look professional, and then um post it, you know, that uh will uh resonate well with your uh viewers, you know, that's really how it works. And you'll find that is a strategy that uh works well because it is uh original in a sense that it's um coming up with ideas that are really touching on people's uh pay points. And that's really what makes a difference of getting people to respond. And I see the difference because of uh AI technology is helping me uh do the research to find out what is uh what is concerns for my readers.

SPEAKER_02 12:31

Yeah, interesting. And I have two detailed questions about it. Like how would you pick the right idea, the one that sparks the most interest, and also is there still some manual work in there before you have the finished article? And what would that be?

SPEAKER_01 12:46

Well, um I would select a particular target audience. Um and again, it could be uh, for example, on my uh podcast I have uh that I drop four times a week. I would talk about certain techniques. For example, I would look at on Tuesdays, I do all uh I do tools and tips and tricks on tools on AI and talk about the latest um you know technology that's uh that a lot of people are looking into. And I use AI to help find out, you know, what are the companies uh offering and what changes are happening in the industry that are affecting uh my listeners. And it really is about choosing which topics, and it gives me an endless amount of topics to work with. And once I select one topic, I'll expand upon it by using some of my insight that I know my experience in dealing with certain technologies, and you know, share that information in the podcast. And I usually my podcasts are less than 10 minutes on the average, uh, because I like to keep it short and sweet, and I find it to be very effective that way because people don't really have time to sit a half an hour or more to uh a podcast. Uh they want to give them the meat, and that's what I do. I give them the the key highlights. And then um if they want more, they can subscribe to my newsletter, and that's something that gives more in-depth information. So there's a lot of possibilities that you can work with. I also use um AI to help create scripts uh to uh use for uh videos, and I find it to be very effective. I uh post in groups. I'm a member of uh over a dozen different groups on LinkedIn, and I find that strategy works very effectively because a lot of the group members are, and could be in the thousands or hundreds of thousands, are very interested in learning about AI technology and what things that can help them be better in their profession. So they're always interested, and uh and AI does help in uh creating ideas for that uh that kind of content.

SPEAKER_02 14:54

And um so the manual work is basically the distribution work or when you create the content itself, is there any manual work involved as well still? Or is it fully automated?

SPEAKER_01 15:06

No, there's always um manual work, but I have a team of VAs that I work with that help to uh you know come up with the ideas, they use the area technology, and then they pretty much give me suggestions on what to work with. Plus, I have a team of my AI advisors that I also run it by as well. And they also give me ways to help uh become more impactful with the information I present. And then what I do is I take the information, I rewrite it in a way that it comes across as being authentic, and then um and then I publish it and I find uh what kind of response I get from it. You know, some days it can hit a home run, other days, you know, crickets. But that's the that's the kind of the name and nature of the beast. You know, you don't know where it really works. But for the most part, I think most people get value from what I present because the information is timely, it's informative, and it's something that a lot of them are um or are pain points for them to address. So I try to give them information that is relevant. And the response that I get from that knows that I'm in the right direction. So that's that's the key.

SPEAKER_02 16:18

Okay. And when you're working with um a client, so how would that usually look like? Like what is their initial situation? They come with they come to you, they have a a problem, they need more leads, they need more to grow their following, potentially also on LinkedIn. Um, can you describe their typical case when they come to you? And also I'd be curious when you work with them, what is the transformation that happens? So maybe you have a case study in mind that um you could just yeah, give us a little bit of a story, what is possible when somebody's working with you? Like basically what is the results then also that uh come out of working with you?

SPEAKER_01 16:58

Well, I have numerous studies that to look at, but I think for the most part, we kind of go back to the basics and talk about you know optimizing their profile. You know, we take a look and see exactly what their profile and how it compares to their competitors, you know, because they're in a competitive situation and they need to understand that if their profile doesn't look good, if not better, than their competitors, then they have a problem. You know, and that could be because the fact is people are using LinkedIn nowadays for searches, and if they're going to events most of the time, they expect uh that they would have a profile that is robust and informative, and um that's really the difference. They they think that it's not necessary that they have to have a LinkedIn profile, but that's wrong, and that's really what they'll see. And the one they're not getting the business because the fact that they're losing the business to the competition who has optimized a profile, who've used strategies that help for outreach. And that's gonna make a difference. And then that's what I help with clients, is just, you know, if you want to be found, if you want to have a profile that you can be proud about, um, then I could show you the ways that work for me and has given me uh the ability to become a thought leader in my industry. And that's exactly what I present to them. You know, if they want to become a thought leader, um, I can show them the right way to become that by using some of the strategies that helped me uh be a thought leader on LinkedIn.

SPEAKER_03 18:27

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 18:29

And can you give us one of those case studies also? Like you have worked with the client, and what was the transformation that happened, like before and after? Like maybe there's also some numbers that could be picked out, like whatever amounts of followers that have been gained, uh revenue that has been gained, and maybe within a time frame, or I'd I'd just love to have something tangible as well, but be curious.

SPEAKER_01 18:51

Well, uh I'm not sure we have enough time in this podcast to go into details on the case studies, but I do have a lot of them on my website as well as um information. But I would say this just to summarize, is that uh the fact is that um people who've worked with me have seen results by having their profile optimized. They're able to actually get more business as a result because they are coming across as a thought leader by creating content for newsletters, by creating articles, by helping to even create um the way to have case studies, which I do have on my website of successful clients who worked, were really thrilled with the results. The end result is that um you have to look at it that if you're not doing something um, especially with AI to improve your uh uh profile, then you're at a loss because your competitors are out there or doing that, and you could simply look at that and see the results. You know, one of the key factors I look at profiles, for example, with your profile, all right, look at the recommendations that you have. It's very limited. Okay, you really need to step up your game and get recommendations because third-party endorsements are crucial to success on LinkedIn. And that's something that I try to uh stress as long. Anyone who's worked with you should at least say some kind words and gotta be proactive in doing it. And that's gonna make a difference of you gaining trust on the platform because there's a lot of profiles on there that are really you can't really trust them for the most part because you look at it and uh it's what they say is different than what it shows. You know, that's really what it is. And that's really what I try to stress. Well, so in addition to recommendations, I look at the groups that they they joined, look at um articles they've written, and if there's areas of improvement, we focus in on that. And I find that, you know, not having a newsletter right off the bat is is is a no-no. They gotta get started with that regardless, and um get subscribers. And then once they see, and and being very specific with your niche newsletters, you can do up to five different newsletters on LinkedIn, okay, which is why you do. You know, I have one of the newsletters for attorneys, one for accountants, one for financial planners, and they go specifically every week and they reach it, and it's great about the newsletters because they have such an incredible reach. Uh, not only do they get notified on LinkedIn, but they also get notified in their in mail inboxes outside of LinkedIn because LinkedIn has such a high authority, it bypasses a lot of spam filters. Just think about it. You know, you send out a newsletter through your corporate corporate newsletter, guaranteed it's going to get into the spam filter. But with LinkedIn, not necessarily the case. And that's an underutilized tool that people should really see uh the difference. And you can work with AI technology to come up with ideas for these newsletters, and they don't have to be extensive. It could be 500, 700 words on the average. But you know, once a week is a minimum that you should be posting on there. And you can start seeing a lot of traction and a lot of results by just using that technique. And also, it's great for Google searches, too, because there are things in the news. Letter that you can use to actually enhance outside of LinkedIn. You know, uh LinkedIn allows you to create an actual URL for that particular article that you created and help create the keywords and the metadata, which you can use AI technology for. So actually, when you do post on LinkedIn, that search can be found on Google. And just think about the opportunity that you have. Imagine your article could be the top of the list on Google searches, you know, and all of a sudden you're getting a lot more reach beyond LinkedIn's walls. You know, so that's incredible. And that's something that a lot of people don't realize that this uh tool, this newsletter is an incredible free tool to use. And uh not taking advantage of it is just um is criminal, I would say.

SPEAKER_02 22:48

Yeah, that's quite interesting, actually. Um I I really believe that's an underused tool. That's also my impression. I'd be curious. Um, would you say there is best ways to grow those newsletters quickly? Let's say somebody who now just heard of this opportunity for the first time has no newsletter going on on LinkedIn, LinkedIn right now, but once you start it. So let's say you start it and how to grow it fast to let's say the first 1,000.

SPEAKER_01 23:18

Well, you're gonna take a look at your existing followers. I mean, it depends on how many people that you have currently connected with. If you're just starting on LinkedIn, you may not have anybody to read your newsletter, of course. Uh and then, but as soon as um you do create it, um, LinkedIn will notify your particular followers and ask them if they'd like to um subscribe. You know, and that's something that they'll get it usually automatically in the first newsletter, I believe, that's created. So there's your opportunity. And then you want to do with your newsletter, don't be a generalist, very be specific. You can actually use AI technology to help ideas for a newsletter, you know, what would be resonating well with your clients. So and that's really what you can focus in on. And then start with the first newsletter. And then once you uh find some traction with that, you can develop a second one and a third one, and so on. And once you reach five, then that's great. You you have that. And send it out at least once a week. I mean, there's no excuse not to do it. And you can schedule this in advance, which is great. So what I do is on the weekend is when I do my scheduling in advance. And a lot of times I'll schedule a month out, you know, because you know, you can do that with LinkedIn, which is great. So it's not like, you know, you're short for um, you know, ideas for articles. You always have a month lead time or even beyond that. But I find that to be an effective strategy. I find it to help build credibility and gain trust of the people that you're connecting with by having a newsletter, it's definitely going to make a difference in your outreach.

SPEAKER_02 24:45

Yeah, I I can see that. I'd still be curious. Let's say somebody has a couple thousand connections on LinkedIn, started the newsletter, okay, then LinkedIn informs automatically all the followers, if I understood that correctly. And then let's say you add more connections over time. Is that happening automatically as well? Or is there something that needs to be done manually? Do you need to invite them to the newsletter in order to grow it? Or what are the best practices there in order to continue to grow it?

SPEAKER_01 25:14

Well, I would say that once you release your newsletter, um, and you can use hashtags in there to release it to help um you know get the attention of those who are not followers of yours or who were not connected with you to be notified of this particular newsletter, as well as certain um tools in the newsletter itself, the settings, that you can go beyond LinkedIn itself uh to Google searches. And if your particular article resonates with someone who's doing a Google search, they may be on LinkedIn's network and they may decide to, you know, I don't know, rejoin LinkedIn because they haven't thought about it, and it's as a result of your newsletter. So you can use that as beyond the reach of LinkedIn's walls. So um there's no uh I would say that the opportunity is incredible in terms of the reach itself. It's a free tool. And um if you use it the right way, you can grow your followers in leaps and bounds. I mean, it's incredible because of the reach that uh newsletter has if you can instruction away. Again, cut come up with a title that's gonna catch people's interest. That's most important. And guess what? You can use AI technology for that. AI come up with a catchy title that's gonna grab people's attention, focus on the pain points, and then it'll develop a hashtag for that and a promo for for the article itself that can help you develop that. Uh, and um, as well as most importantly, is the uh Google um you know, the uh URL and the meta tags that are designed for you know uh Google searches. So this combination is going to be a very effective tool for using it. And in addition to that, you can look at when you create a newsletter, you have an option to create a static um image for the newsletter itself, or you can do a video. And video is a very powerful tool. You can do a video up to 60 seconds, you know, to introduce the idea that's presented in the newsletter. And you'll find a lot of uh eyeballs on that uh because of you created a video with your image of yourself. Uh and that's really a powerful um newsletter uh tool that is also uh a secret weapon in getting more followers and more interest in your uh what you offer.

SPEAKER_03 27:23

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 27:24

Okay, very interesting. And like if you would have to have a step-by-step process, let's say you have somehow grown your newsletter to the first 500, like what would be the next steps ideally that you could take in order to double that size? I I understand that it would be visible also on Google, etc., and um you have to craft the title to spark interest and all of that. But is there like I'm looking for something tangible? Like, for example, would you go ahead and write DMs to everybody? Hey, check out this newsletter, or would you post that on your profile, or is there like what would be the best practice in order to make that growth happen?

SPEAKER_01 28:07

Well, um, as I mentioned, the key to growth on the newsletter itself, of course, uh organically, is to have a compelling title for your newsletter and also have a uh uh a video, a short video that will highlight um what the uh what the article or the newsletter is about. And you'll find that to be um a very effective tool to gain interest because a lot of people are not really using uh for that purpose. Are you here, uh Robert? Yep, yep, here you go. So I find that China's strategy is very effective. In addition, uh you can also create uh polls on LinkedIn, which also are very effective in asking questions of people about their pain points. And you can do this at least once or twice a month, also is a right way to gain some traction. And there's another tool uh that also is very effective. It's called carousels. Are you familiar with that?

SPEAKER_02 29:06

Uh yes, personally, I have to admit I have not used them yet. But um okay, I'm curious to learn more about that, how that would help to gain traction.

SPEAKER_01 29:16

What's great about carousels is that it actually is uh is favored highly on LinkedIn's algorithm, because the fact is that it's kind of like a series of PDFs that usually five or seven slides on the average, that really goes beyond just a simple post on uh you know LinkedIn. It's you can create a um a general idea of the post, but people spend time on that particular post because of the uh PDF. It's like a series of slides that they have to go through in order to complete the uh information in the uh in the post. And that seems to resonate well because that's what LinkedIn wants, more eyeballs on a particular article, so uh or at least on a post. So carousels, and you can actually create that with Canva. Uh they even have a lot of templates on that you can use for carousels that are really impressive and makes it very easy. And I've been using that uh, oh, I would say the past month or so, and I've seen amazing results uh because of the posts that I normally used to use just a text post, and then I've used video posts, but uh all of a sudden carousels, you know, because LinkedIn is like, you know, promoting it, you know, they want to get more people to do it. Well, they really give an incredible reach uh once you post that. So that's also another tool that could be very effective.

SPEAKER_02 30:38

Okay, yeah, interesting. All right, and um I'm curious if you have like one tip only to leave the audience with and uh also leave us with today. Um is there a number one thing out of your experience when growing LinkedIn accounts that gain not only followers but also clients, especially? That is often missed. But if you start doing it, would be a total game changer.

SPEAKER_01 31:12

Well, it's very simple, it's just optimizing your profile. You simply have to focus in on getting uh most recent headshot, uh have a background image that uh represents who you are, uh look for keywords that are optimized, uh, have a description of the services, uh uh uh uh any recommendations. You know, you have to really use uh the ability to optimize your profile because if you do any outreach or any connections, people you only got a few seconds to make an impression. If you're not impressed, they're not gonna give you the time of day. And that's simply put. So you can't do any outreach at all until you optimize the profile. And what I created was actually a worksheet, a profile optimization worksheet that your listeners can have access to absolutely free. Uh go to linkvantage.com forward slash audit, and they have access to this tool that will help give you great tips on how to optimize your profile, how to look presentable, how to look trustworthy, you know, whoever you're connecting with. That's really what it's all about. And if you can do that, if you use some of these insights I created, you'll find that you'll have a lot more people interested in connecting with you. And whenever you do outreach, you'll get a lot more acceptance than you would have if you didn't do it at all.

SPEAKER_02 32:28

Mm-hmm. So that was linkvantage.com/slash audit. Yes, correct. Yeah, exciting. We're gonna also put that link down there in the description of uh this podcast. I'm really uh thankful. I'm I'm happy that you joined our quick interview today, Al. Thanks for that. And if there's a best way also to reach out to you personally, I assume that's gonna be your LinkedIn profile. Also feel free to just mention that real quick, whatever the best way is.

SPEAKER_01 32:55

Yeah, well, uh go to LinkedIn. Uh, you know, certainly you can follow me on LinkedIn. You can also check out my book. It's called the AI uh LinkedIn Advantage. Uh it's also available on Spotify if you prefer audio versions, which is a great uh option. And uh also check out my uh podcast called the AI Authority Edge. It drops four times a week, available on Spotify as well as Apple. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 33:17

Yeah, exciting. Again, thanks so much, Al. See you soon. We'll be in touch. Have a good one.

SPEAKER_00 33:27

Go to rock and rollyourdreams.com forward slash podcast.