Episode 38 : Behind the Glam - Stories That Matter

🥂 In This Episode

This week, we’re stepping into the spotlight and pulling back the curtain…

• Jen shares her experience seeing Hadestown (and why it stuck with her long after the final note)
• We dive into Heartspring’s mission ahead of the Rouge Gala—and why this organization is so special
• A sneak peek at Ballet Wichita’s Breaking Barriers
• Hits Different: Getaway Car by Taylor Swift
• Plus: a This or That that turns surprisingly introspective (because… of course it does)

🎭 Under the Lights: Hadestown Review

Jen takes us inside Broadway in Wichita’s production of Hadestown—and WOW.

From haunting vocals to a story rooted in mythology, love, and sacrifice, this one hit deep.

Highlights:

• A fully sung-through production (no dialogue, all music)
• Standout performances (Hermes as narrator stole the show)
• Themes of love, trust, and fate that leave room for interpretation

And maybe the most special part?
 Sharing the experience with her mom—and realizing how powerful live theater can be when it means something.

❤️ Beyond the Spotlight: Heartspring + Rouge Gala

We’re honored to be guests at the upcoming Heartspring Rouge Gala, and after Jen’s behind-the-scenes tour, this organization left a lasting impression.

What makes Heartspring so impactful:

• Serving children with autism and developmental needs
• A whole-child approach (education, therapy, life skills)
• Supporting families—not just individuals
• Drawing families from across the country to Wichita

From classrooms to residential living spaces, it’s not just care—it’s community.

As we said in the episode: It’s easy to show up for the sparkle… but what stays with you is the purpose behind it.

🩰 What’s Next on Stage: Ballet Wichita

Next up, we’re heading to the same venue (hello full-circle moment 👀) for:

Breaking Barriers

A powerful performance inspired by the Dockum Sit-In, blending history, movement, and emotion.

📍 B-29 Doc Hangar
 📅 April 3 & 4

We already know this one is going to be feel-it-in-your-chest kind of moving.

🚗 Hits Different: Getaway Car

This week’s song: Getaway Car by Taylor Swift

And WOW… this conversation went places.

We talked about:

• Fast, fiery relationships that feel electric… but don’t last
• Being someone’s escape—and realizing they were yours too
• The difference between love, timing, and emotional survival

The takeaway?
Sometimes the “getaway car” isn’t the destination…
It’s just the thing that helps you move forward.

✨ Final Thoughts

This episode is all about contrast:

🎭 Being seen vs. figuring it out
 ✨ Glamour vs. meaning
 ❤️ Performance vs. purpose

Some moments are meant for the spotlight… and some quietly shape who we become.

🥂 Next Episode Tease

We’re joined by Jamie Seipel of Blood Cancer United (formerly LLS) to talk about her Visionary of the Year campaign and how Wichita is showing up for a powerful cause.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Cheers, girl. Cheers. Here we are for episode 38 of Soul Disappoint.

SPEAKER_01 0:06

So this is happening.

SPEAKER_00 0:07

Here we go. Oh, we have a lot to cover today. We have a lot going on. Last week I went to see Hades Town with my mom. Rachel was out of town, so I had my mom come with me and we had the best time. So we'll be I'll be talking all about my experience of seeing Hades Town. Then we have the Heart Spring Rouge Gala coming up this Saturday, the day after my birthday. I'm so excited. Birthday.

SPEAKER_01 0:34

You guys had our birthday, my birthday episode last time.

SPEAKER_00 0:37

Now it's not we I love how we both have Friday birthdays this year. And it's been too back. They don't always fall on Fridays. Yeah, I know. Usually it's like a Thursday or something. Yeah, it's weird. And then for our Hits Different segment, we are going to be talking about Getaway Car from Taylor Swift's Reputation album. Yee. Oh, and guess what? We have another date with our friends at Ballet, Wichita, at the beginning of April. So excited to go see them. We'll be talking about that.

SPEAKER_01 1:06

Support by our merch. Messi is my polish. That line 10% goes to Ballet Wichita. Don't forget it.

SPEAKER_00 1:14

You know you want it. We all do. So before we get into all of that, let's warm up with a little something called this or that. Okay, alright. Hot and heavy. Okay. Hot and heavy. So we're staying on theme as always. If you're new here, the way that we do this is I'll read off a couple of prompts, this or that. And we will each write down our our own answers, and then we will also try to guess what each other would answer. Then we kind of chit-chat about it, make fun of each other a little bit, and move on to the next one. And we keep score. I feel like I'm on a streak right now, but I don't remember how much. I think you are, I think you've on the last two at least. Maybe so. So I'm on a little streak. We'll see what happens. Are you ready to begin? Yes. Let's go. Okay, let's see. Okay. Would you rather if you're going into something new, would it you rather it be scripted or would you rather it be fully off script? Oh god. Okay, I know, I know my answer totally. I don't know. For you. I know for me. Now I'm trying to figure out for you. It just says it's just a pen. Okay. I love this game. Alright, we ready? Okay. No, I said off script for myself and script for you.

SPEAKER_01 2:38

I put off script for both. I'm wrong. Point for Rachel. So why did you put script for me?

SPEAKER_00 2:47

I put script for you because I feel like you have a good memory. Okay. And you're very well organized. I feel like you're you are as well. Yeah, but I also know this about myself. Oh. I know that a lot of the times if I show up with a script, I get really, really nervous about forgetting something important. And it makes me overthink the entire thing. So I'd rather just like go without a script and be allowed to just authentically be myself so that I don't have to overthink things. Okay. I get that.

SPEAKER_01 3:24

So I put off script for both of us because messy is our polish. That's true, yeah. Um, because even yes, I do appreciate a plan. Yes. And we've talked about this before. Like, we like a plan, but if it derails, it derails if it feels right. Yeah. And so to me, I'm like, like, let's just say it's a movie and there's a producer, and if I take it the way that my character should take it, and I go a little off script with the wording and like maybe add something or don't say a certain sentence, but it works, then it works. Yeah. So for me, I'm like off script, but I do like guidelines. I like guidelines, yeah. Guidelines are helpful. I like rules and I like a process and I like guidelines, but I also love the power to take it in my own direction. Yeah. And I think that you do too. Definitely. But I think we just thought about it differently. Yeah. In answering that question.

SPEAKER_00 4:16

Yeah, yeah. I think you're either, which sometimes we do, which is wild. I don't know. A lot of the times we have that neurosyncricity going on. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:23

It's like sometimes not so because I almost said script for both, but I was like, no. Because we both like to do things our own way. Yeah. You know? And if anyone, like, just like, you know, like, are you a planner or an attender? Right. Yeah. And we like you want to be the planner because you want to know what's happening and when it's happening. So in a way, that's a script, but yet it's in your control. So it's like off of everybody else's script.

SPEAKER_00 4:49

Yeah. If that makes sense. Yeah, no, it totally makes sense. And you're so right about like, would you rather be the host or the guest? Because oh thank God. A similar relatable topic. Yeah, it really is. Okay, so love what this next one alludes to. Love story or cautionary tale? What's my favorite?

SPEAKER_01 5:08

Well, what do I have most of?

SPEAKER_00 5:09

No, no, no, what would you okay? Let's let's do it this way. What would you rather Can I put both? No.

SPEAKER_01 5:19

Does your cautionary tale come from a love story?

SPEAKER_00 5:23

I feel like would you rather tell, would you, when you're talking to people, do you get more, do you get more satisfaction out of talking about the love story or get more satisfaction talking about the cautionary tale? Okay. There's so many nuances that could go into this. So it's gonna be really hard to guess. Uh I think we have to think, I don't know, I'm gonna stop thinking out loud because I'm gonna give away the answers. So let's see. Okay. I'm hiding my face. No one could see it. Okay. No one can see it. Okay. You ready? I think so. Okay. I said that's a love story for both.

SPEAKER_01 6:03

I said caution, but I forgot how to draw caution sign. What's that you think? Oh, I think it was going for biohazards.

SPEAKER_00 6:11

I was going more for biohazard sign. Watch out. Do not enter. Poison. Okay, so we're both wrong. We're both wrong. That's a point. That was tough. Oh my god. Oh, that is so funny. I almost put cautionary tale for myself.

SPEAKER_01 6:28

I don't even think mine was an answer.

SPEAKER_00 6:30

Those are non-cautious. Definitely, we know what you meant. You said what you meant. I think that I was going for biohazard signs. What's a biohazard sign look like?

SPEAKER_01 6:39

Isn't it like a big thing? I think it's like test poison.

SPEAKER_00 6:41

I don't know. And then like molen bones and signs and I don't know. Anyway, very much on topic, I would think. Why did you pick warning?

SPEAKER_01 6:55

Because I think that I because both. Like, because I think that there's like you feel the love or a certain type of love. I think there's a lot of different versions of love. Oh, yeah. But like you can feel that that awesome love story, and it turns into a cautionary tale or learning experience for a better term than cautionary tale. And I believe that teaches you the lessons to know where you do find love. And so to me, that's part of the bigger story of the ultimate love story is all of the lessons leading up to finding I love your answer. That love, that great love. So to me, that all is what encompasses and makes up the love story because once you finally find the love, like for example, when you see me with a person that makes me so happy and satisfies my needs, you just know that you're like, you know that they balance me out and that they give me everything I need based off of because you know everything about all of my cautionary tales of fake false love and hope and all of that drama, whatever, even if there was drama, just pain and love and hype and down and up and down and up and down. And you know all that. So then when you see me with the final one, doesn't that make it even better? You know what I mean? Yeah. No, I know, it's so true. That's why I picked it for both of us because I've we've both watched each other go through our trials and tribulations. Of course, I get more satisfaction from hearing about the love story, but it wouldn't be that important or that impactful without all of the like boom without all the shitty ones. You know what I mean? Yeah, but of course, I love a romance. I do too. I am a romantic, I love it. Romance me, baby, and hit me up.

SPEAKER_00 8:52

Yeah, I I put I yeah, wow, I did not go that deep in my thoughts about that. It was just like, I really love talking about when I'm in love, and I love talking about the fun stuff. I do love teaching as well. So I I did almost put cautionary tale for myself because I do love trying to not give unsolicited advice, but I do definitely like to share my knowledge when I love the way you when it's relevant. Yeah, that's the thing too.

SPEAKER_01 9:20

I go, well, listen to this bullshit. I went through it once. It could start like, so this happened. Oh, that that's how this, yeah. I've told her a lot of stories that started with, so yeah, this happened this weekend. Oh my god. So this happened. I lost half my toe this weekend.

SPEAKER_00 9:39

Oh, so this happened. I ripped off my gel polish this weekend. One toe, the middle toe. Oh. How does that happen?

SPEAKER_01 9:47

It happened and it hurt. So this happened. My ex got someone else pregnant. So this happened. Oh my god. Climbed through a bus window.

SPEAKER_00 9:56

So this happened. There's been some wild ones. That's why we have this this ear pod. Hello. So our next one is high drama or low-key living. I know what I like here. Yeah. Got it. Okay, so do I. Flip. Low-key bitches. I put drama for you. I'm such a drama queen. I'm just kidding. I put low for both. We don't like that drama. Get out of here with that. We don't have time for that. Get out of here.

SPEAKER_01 10:30

We don't like that mean girl energy. Though life naturally already has enough of its own simple source of fresh, natural drama served at you. Like, I don't need nobody else turning anything up.

SPEAKER_00 10:45

No. Get out of here. Good vibes only. Good vibes only, please. Collaboration over competition. We will keep we will keep the list going. I don't want to make any of that nonsense. Don't want your drama. No. No, no, no, no drama. No drama.

SPEAKER_01 11:01

No drama mamas over here. Ooh, that's another shirt. No drama mamas. No drama mamas. And then on the back. Over here. Oh. Like with no context. Or just on the shoulder. Ooh, but over him. We're not caffeinated. Okay. Just to tease. I'm just saying. You're right. I did drink a lot of coffee today. It's been a it's just been a day. Well, it was a cool it was a cool morning this morning. So I actually did have a hot pot of coffee. I woke up at six and I started my coffee pot and I drank like I drank like three pots of coffee. Girl. Oh my gosh. I got so much done. I vacuum my car out. I think I was, I think I was there. I got a workout. Oh shit. Getting that dog fur out of my carpet. Oh, go back and forth, back and forth. I was getting that dog hair out of there.

SPEAKER_00 11:50

See, I found out this weekend that I don't do well on drinking espresso quickly on an empty stomach. Well, okay, I do do well. I just get really hyper and excited about everything. And then I kind of knee-jerk a little bit. And yeah, I mean, everything is fine, all is well. But secret tip I don't know how you care about cottage cheese.

SPEAKER_01 12:13

I love cottage cheese. Boom, me too. Okay, so I got I get a big tub, right? In the morning, because I'm not that hungry in the morning, but I know I take a lot of vitamins in the morning, and I like to drink coffee in the morning. So I take all my vitamins, I go in the kitchen, I just eat like four big spoonfuls of cottage cheese. Oh. And then I go in. And I also get a bunch of water intake just by taking my vitamins. I drink like half of that. Yeah, yeah. I always start the day with like big old chug of water. A bunch of water. I got like three cups of coffee in this morning. Oof. I was very productive.

SPEAKER_00 12:42

Okay. For the record, I do do though get the dudes.

SPEAKER_01 12:49

So I have to plan it to where I'm awake enough. So that happens before I go to work.

SPEAKER_00 12:54

I love this one. Okay. Okay, so would you rather rewrite the ending or leave it at it? Leave it as is. Like in real life. Yes. I am. Okay. Okay, you ready? Uh-huh. Okay, flip it. I said leave. I said leave for both. For both. Nice. Leave for both. Yeah, leave it as is because otherwise you wouldn't be where you are today.

SPEAKER_01 13:23

What were you thinking about when you. Yeah, just what scenario were you thinking of when you put that?

SPEAKER_00 13:29

When I wrote that, I was thinking about the time that my younger son asked me if there was anything that I would ever change in my life. And I told him no. Despite how everything has gone, there have been some ridiculously rocky times. No, I I I wouldn't change it because I love where I am and I love my life right now. I love it so much. And so, no, I want I wouldn't rewrite it. I would leave it just like it is. Because I love it. I love that answer.

SPEAKER_01 14:00

That's right. You told me about when he asked when he asked you that.

SPEAKER_02 14:03

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 14:04

Too. So I love that. It's still like repeating in your head too. Yeah. And it's good too, like the whose mouth that came out of? What? Which one? Which son? Oh, oh yeah, who did it though? It was Nathan. What about like of all the people to say that to you or ask you that? So inquisitive. That's like a question you think your therapist would ask. Right?

SPEAKER_00 14:28

Like, I love that he thinks that way. It just makes me so so impressed by him. He impresses me all the time. Both of them do, obviously. But wow.

SPEAKER_01 14:38

I think that means he you impressed him too, the fact that he's willing to ask you those sorts of questions and actually value your response. Yeah. So that means a lot too. Well, thank you. Yeah. I think that means a lot too. And he probably took that and like that probably made him feel better and more confident. I sure hope so. Just knowing, like, oh wow. Yeah, yeah. What about yourself? I was kind of thinking about a lot of things, you know. I was thinking about whether it's romantic relationships, friendship relationships, professional relationships. No, I wouldn't rewrite it. No, absolutely not. Because I think that it's all just like you say, you know, in a way, I think it's all happening. There's not necessarily a grand plan. Like, I don't believe that there's someone up in the sky or in some parallel universe with like, here's Rachel's life. What are we gonna do to her today? Yeah. Like I don't necessarily believe that they're just moving puzzle pieces around like that. Yeah. But I do think that I'm making the most out of every situation or change. And I think you are too. And I think that's what makes us strong, and I think that's what brought us where we're supposed to be. Yeah, I love that. Yeah. And I think that's why our friendships are even more important and our relationships that we still maintain, because that means that's the strongest bond we've chosen to keep. Yeah, that's so true. Yeah, I love it.

SPEAKER_00 16:02

Alright, we have one more.

SPEAKER_01 16:04

Getting all gushy over here. Gosh, stop it.

SPEAKER_00 16:08

Even if Loki's up here, like what are we talking about today? All right. So I guess the last one would be would you like one big defining moment or a lifetime of small ones?

unknown 16:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:26

I think I know your answer. No, you don't. I think I do. No, you don't. I'm pretty sure I do. You ready? Yeah. Okay. Small one. I bet small. Small. And we're on a we're just on this. I know.

SPEAKER_01 16:37

We have we've been putting the same thing for both of our answers each question.

SPEAKER_00 16:41

Yeah.

unknown 16:42

Except for.

SPEAKER_00 16:43

Yeah. You did win though. You got me tonight.

SPEAKER_01 16:46

Well, I mean, my tattoo literally says small be like a little beautiful thing.

SPEAKER_00 16:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:51

Yeah. I think a big grand one would embarrass me. I'd be like, stop it. Like, who way? But I think small wins are what make the big ones. Like, yeah. Anything. Like, just like a relationship. You know, any relationship, any trial tribulation you go through that like something good stays. I think that's a little beautiful thing. I think it is.

SPEAKER_00 17:12

But also, like, I think about like having one big thing, like one big moment as your that's your thing.

SPEAKER_01 17:20

Then it seems like you're just gonna go boop.

SPEAKER_00 17:22

That is exactly like then what's next?

SPEAKER_01 17:24

Like, you're right. That's like actors are like they're like artists that are like one-hit wonders or yeah, and then when you get to high school, or the situation there, like yeah, and I remember thinking that too in high school when like I wasn't a popular girl. I wasn't popular. Oh, me neither. I was thinking, like, and I was like, looking at all them, and it's like, oh man. And everyone was telling me, don't worry, they're peeking now.

SPEAKER_00 17:49

They always say that, and they told us that the whole time.

SPEAKER_01 17:52

I think they were probably right for 50% of them. Yeah, yeah, I feel like it was definitely right. A hard 50. Yeah, no offense to those beautiful women. No, but I'm over here like a lot of those friendships didn't matter to me. That's exactly right. You gotta spend you gotta spend your energy on the people that actually matter. Yeah, I meant people that matter. To you, and stuck around. Everyone matters to each other, to you, to each other, yeah. Man, that was a good game. I feel like we deep dived on some some sweet topics.

SPEAKER_00 18:23

Yeah, I think we did too. And I think it leads us beautifully into the rest of our episode today, which we have a lot to cover, a lot of a lot more stage time to be talked about, that's for sure. Well, cheers to my win! I broke my streak. You broke my streak. Streaks are made to be broken anyway. That's fair. I had one last month. Yeah. Yeah. I like how we just take turns. So, okay, stepping into the spotlight. I took my mom with me to Broadway and Wichita's production of Hades Town. Okay. And it was phenomenal. I had never seen Hades Town before. Fun fact when Nathan was in New York City last week for his big theater trip, he saw Hades Town. Oh, shoot. Okay, and just for here's something funny that happened. That entire week, not a text message from him until the night that he saw Hamilton. Like, I was texting him. Hi, how's the trip, honey? Make sure you save all of your playbills, honey. Not a word. Then the night that he sees Hamilton, I get three pictures from him and sing Hamilton right now. But it's funny because he did he did one of the pictures exactly the way that I do my pictures, and he doesn't have social. He doesn't see that I do this, but he took his playbill and he put it out in front of the camera with the stage in the background, and I was just so proud of my little dude. He did it the same way that I do it. It's so funny. I know that it's common, but for a kid that's not on social media, he's such a natural. I love that. I love it too. And then I didn't hear from him again until he was on his way home making sure that I was going to pick him up. Oh no, wait, that's not true. I texted him the same thing from Hades Town when I was with my mom. I texted him our tickets with and and a selfie with my mom, and I said, Hades town. He's like, You're seeing Hades Town? I'm like, Did you see Hades Town? Oh I got him to talk to me for just a little bit, and then he was gone, and then we had to watch the show and I guess. Oh my gosh, for real. That he had the time of his life, and I love that we both got to see Hades Town for the first time in the same week. That's cool. That is an incredible production. Have you ever seen Hades Town? I have not, I don't know anything about it. So oh my gosh, it goes dark. It's so cool at the beginning because it's about this lady who's kind of like she she's lives a lifestyle of travel. Like she goes from here to there to here to there, and she then, like in this one town, Hades Town, she meets Orpheus. Yeah, I know, beautiful, and he's got this beautiful voice, and he instantly falls in love with her. And I'm telling you what, the vocals of this production absolutely phenomenal, and it was really fun comparing my experience of Hades Town to Nathan's experience of Hades Town, and we both were just completely in love with the soundtrack. The music is so good. He was in love with Orpheus's character, or if Orpheus, I love that character too, but my favorite character, I believe, was Hermes. He's kind of like plays as a sort of narrator to the story. Okay. And so then you it's you're talking about Hades Town, Hades and Persephone, they've been forever forever together.

SPEAKER_01 21:44

I feel like I would love it because I love all of the storyline of the You would love it. Oh man.

SPEAKER_00 21:50

I'm gonna have to see it. You're definitely gonna have to see it sometime. I know I know that you would love it. Eventually, the girl, so she's so tired of the cold and The wind and being poor and being subjected to the elements and just frustrated by life. And Orpheus basically says, When I get done writing this song, it'll be spring and everything will be okay. And we'll be together.

SPEAKER_01 22:12

I've heard this story, but in ever other realms. Oh yeah. You know what I mean? This is yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:19

So then eventually, unfortunately, she's she sells her soul to Hades and is taken down to be, oh my gosh, the por portrayal of these workers. Like they just did such a great job of portraying the soulless, like empty eyes, limp, like just no reason for life, like to live at all. And all they were doing was doing as they were told, like the working and the core choreography was great. And then when she was realizing what she had done, yeah, that she was doomed to this for forever, and like starting to forget her life back on you know on Earth with Orpheus, starting to forget all about that and all the purpose. And then Orpheus shows up, and I'm not gonna spoil the ending. But it was god, it was so good. I I know I say this every time we go to a theater production, but I I vocals are a lot to me. A storyline. Um here's another thing about Hades Town. There is no actual dialogue, it's all music, just like Hamilton. There's no stopping for dialogue or anything like that in between.

SPEAKER_01 23:25

So it in a way, it's like because it's Crowdwaven's child that put it on, correct? So it's but I like those as well because then it's more like a ballet, like or what you're like in it.

SPEAKER_00 23:37

It's you know what I mean. You're figuring out the story as it unfolds before you, unless you've seen it before. And there there were very obviously a lot of people at the production that had seen Hades Town before. Yeah, they got excited when Hermes came out, they knew the inside jokes. Like I was and now I just it was so cool.

SPEAKER_01 23:54

But even then, I think it's still so cool how everyone can put it on differently. Like, kind of like when we went and saw Stomp. Like everyone does the betrayal differently, like each company that puts it on does its own little twist. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:06

That yeah, it's kind of like that whole thing. Like, do you want like, sure, there's a script to this, yes, but you're also invited to add your own flair to it and make it kind of yours, which makes it even more special.

SPEAKER_01 24:20

Yeah, I agree. With everything that we've seen so far, they think they've done that, you know, with their productions they do here. And I think even if they did the same one, they like switch up every now and then.

SPEAKER_00 24:30

Yeah, yeah, and you know, there's always going to be the understudies too that'll that'll pop in and and then add their flair, you know, if someone like gets sick or injured or something like that, or maybe they're just I I know on concert tours they call them the swings dancers that come in and like that, yeah. Dancers that come in and like replace you for a couple nights or whatever, so people get days off and things like that. I learned that from the Eras tour documentary, by the way. What a swing list. I don't just know this stuff, okay? Taylor helps me learn that there was a lot to talk, there was a lot to really think about when it comes to love and sacrifice in the story of Hades Town and and trust. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

And trying to bounce it.

SPEAKER_00 25:13

And just remember this ending.

SPEAKER_01 25:15

Oh gosh, are you trying not to ruin it?

SPEAKER_00 25:17

Not gonna ruin it, not gonna ruin it for anyone that hasn't seen it.

SPEAKER_01 25:20

Well, I mean, it's not like we're gonna get to go see the same production, but I get what you're saying, and that's like to ruin it. I think so. So then I find a version of it on Netflix or something to watch. I'm sure you can find something somewhere.

SPEAKER_00 25:32

That is a part of a point that I would love to discuss with Nathan, though, like how he interprets the end, because I think there's pieces of the ending that are left to interpretation. Yeah. Which I I appreciate those a lot. And so it'd be really interesting. I really wish I would have debriefed that part with my mom too, but she had to drive back to Eno that night. I feel like we've got a lot of talk to it.

SPEAKER_01 25:55

I feel like we need to take Nathan to one of our coffee breaks.

SPEAKER_00 25:58

Oh, that would be so much fun. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 26:00

I feel like that would have end up being a mini sode.

SPEAKER_00 26:02

It would be a mini sode, but that's okay to have mini sods. Yeah, it's fine. We do what we want, just an idea. Or just go. Or you could do it with your songs for your TikTok. Oh, yeah. Oh, I don't want to put him on my TikTok channel. Okay, you're right. I don't know. I don't know. I love the idea.

SPEAKER_01 26:20

It could be a fun little thing. I just know once we all get talking about it, he really dives in. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Yeah, he really does. Yeah. Well, now I'm excited to see it and I have to see it, and it already happened.

SPEAKER_00 26:32

I highly suggest if you if you if any of our listeners too, if you ever get the opportunity to see Hades Town, absolutely. It is so good.

SPEAKER_01 26:42

It's so good. I love the mythical realm and everything like that. All of the gods and goddesses and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 26:47

Yeah, I love that stuff too. It's so fascinating. And it's just kind of fun because it's I know like mythology to me is a lot like fantasy. Um just sometimes you just wish it was real.

SPEAKER_01 27:00

But it's also what a lot of our religion and a lot of different cultural values are based on.

SPEAKER_00 27:05

Yeah, I and I love diving into that. It's super cool to see how it's all transpired.

SPEAKER_01 27:10

Yeah. Like communities to you know, the whole thing. I know a lot of ideas. The moral basis. That's right. It's so wild. The children's book I have, it's a children's book, but it's really adult from the like as far as like adults can enjoy it too, where like they're like short stories of each, like mythical god and everything, what they went through. Oh, that would be cool. You know, I always liked Freya. I'm like, I'm her.

SPEAKER_00 27:32

Yeah. But so tell me about Freya, because I don't know about Freya. And if I do, I forgot.

SPEAKER_01 27:36

She like is beautiful and like makes all the crops grow. Oh, that's so you! Has like has like hair like barley. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 27:46

Um, you literally are Freya. Changing your name for Rand.

SPEAKER_01 27:50

Forea! Pharant.

SPEAKER_00 27:52

Raya, for real. It's our girl.

SPEAKER_01 27:55

No, we're not doing that. Forey Ray. Chill. Okay, too much. No, it's just perfect. Yeah, okay. I couldn't tell you because I would butcher it, but that's it. And she is like, everyone wants her, la-di-da. And then like she like someone's like, oh, okay, well, I will build this wall, and if I don't have this ball, you know, I'm gonna marry her and I'll take this I'll take the moon or I'll take her, basically. Wow. And then it's like, you know, she's like, oh fuck no, you can't marry me like that. She looks at whoever it is, I think it's like Poseidon or some of the other godly gods. I'm I mix up all their names. They all sound ridiculous and the same to me in my head, unless I'm like looking at pictures or the a script. But then she's like, Oh no, you didn't. Oh no, you didn't. She goes, Oh no, and she call up Loki and she'd be like, Hey yo, Loki, you know, I need you to s I need you to start some Tom Foolia up in here because he's like, yeah, no, I ain't marrying this fool. And then he goes, All right, let me change into a horse and do some stupid shit. Because he can like sh shake. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways, that's basically she just she's a boss queen. Dig it. Is the point. That makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 29:05

Totally sucks, yes. Because I did a very bad synopsis. No, I think he did a beautiful synopsis of it. Very fabray, Rachel.

SPEAKER_01 29:12

Fabray Ray, yeah. We don't play with no shit up in here. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 29:18

This hair of Barley doesn't put up with any of that. Oh, and I bet that hair of Barley's gonna look beautiful on Saturday night at our gala that we're going to. Super excited. Uh-huh. So we have been invited as guests to Heart Springs Rouge Gala on Saturday night, March 28th. Which by the way is the Saturday. The day after this fair lady's birthday.

SPEAKER_01 29:47

Yes. Why did you vote?

SPEAKER_00 29:53

I was like, am I? No. Yes. Plus 13. You're fine. Um, yeah, I was so excited. And speaking of Heart Spring, uh, it was really cool because when we started, when I started talking to her name is Heather.

SPEAKER_01 30:09

Yeah. And yeah, you yeah, I know that you're we ran into a couple of them in the going bys of all of our networking and well the yeah, Brent's birthday party was where this whole thing started.

SPEAKER_00 30:20

Our lovely friend Brent. Yes, we love Brent. Hi, Brent. I um it was his birthday where all of this started. And but they invited me out to tour the facility last week, and so I went out there and I got to see I got to see classrooms, I got to see their playgrounds, I got to see their cafeteria, and I got to learn a lot about the services that they offer out there. And the fact that they bring they bring kiddos in from all over the nation to Heart Spring to for services. I and it's funny because it made me think of some of my friends that I know have children that have autism, and I got to talking about Heart Spring with a couple of these friends, and sure enough, they have taken their children to Heart Spring when they were younger, and so that was kind of cool to hear their stories about that. I don't want to drop too much information because I'm not gonna be talking about my friends and their children on this podcast without permission, but it it was just so so cool to see it in real life and see it in action. The day that I went was last Monday, and it was cold outside, and so when the I think it's the girls on the run program, the girls on the run girls were would have been outside doing whatever they do outside that time. They were inside, and it was so cool. They were all sitting around these tables, and they were making these water jugs with pink glitter in them, and just having a great time, and very excited to be where they were, and then just watching some of them walking down the hallway and the way that they interacted with the staff so casually and like respectfully, and it was just really cool to see this ecosystem out there at Heart Spring.

SPEAKER_01 32:04

Yeah, see it in in action. I'd never actually visited, but I worked side by side with some of the Heart Spring people that work there on the admin staff that who's their children went and were participants in the pro their programs and whatnot as well. And then also have a couple friends, like of my brother's friends, that work there and work with these kids. Yeah, and work alongside the staff and our teachers and there, and they have nothing but great things to say, and I know that their work they do is amazing. And I mean the fact that everyone's coming here to Wichita from out of state, right, like they out of state, because other places, especially if they're like underfunded or they just don't have that facility or access to the facility like that or funding, they bring them here and they try to help with all of the funding to help set up um not only the kids but their families to where they can stay in the area as long as possible from what I personally guess. Um yeah, it's a really good program, and they are really intertwined with all the other programs in Witch Talk. They really are. From my understanding, they're pretty well intertwined, and it's I I'm really excited to go because I think it's such a good event. So I'm sorry, I'm not trying to interrupt, but yeah. No, no, no, no, I love this. I've only ever heard great things. Like I literally have oh on the conferences I went to, I have I have a little like texture rubby thing. I have a couple little gadgets I got from their booth. Oh, that's great. And yeah, the the women I've met and the people I've met that work there are just amazing people, and you know they have the biggest heart.

SPEAKER_00 33:36

I met it it's funny because I wonder since I met with three people from their marketing team if to if any of them were the people that you met, because I know there was a Jamie and a Jeannie on my tour, and just so both of them so incredibly knowledgeable about especially Jeannie. Oh my gosh, she had a story for everything. It was so cool to listen to these stories about these kids and and to learn more about the there's so many programs that they have, like they have the you know, the live-in facility where they have the kids like that like literally living their their entire lives from the 24-7 weekends. They make it cozy, they make it cozy, they make it so familial, yeah. And and everything that they're doing is is custom to the individual, so it's not cookie cutter, it's not every kid is treated the same, it's every kid is treated the way that they need to be treated and served the way that they need to be served, but then at the same time, they still have their households for the ones that are living there, they have their households that they go back to, and then so they live evenings and weekends working on you know chores and independence skills and things like that to get them ready to, you know, for life.

SPEAKER_01 34:47

Which is shoot, honestly, these kids are getting more socialization than I did in college, right? I'm not even kidding. Like, there are really great violence here. Like they're already they're already going back to their sororities and then going to their classes and then going back to their little houses. I never did that. I've lived with the same housemates for years.

SPEAKER_00 35:09

And those two are really bossy, the ones that were decades older than you. It's probably parents.

SPEAKER_01 35:15

Oh no, I was talking about my grand ones. I was like, what? No, those two for the last 10 years I've had the same housemates minus one or two switches.

SPEAKER_00 35:23

Oh, see, I was visualizing you growing up and like definitely tonight. I think we're not that bossy. Oh no, not your not your roommates now. Her brother and sister-in-law, not bossy, the sweetest.

SPEAKER_01 35:38

So, yeah, but I get where you were going with that. Yeah, yeah. Even then, yeah, they're still getting so much more socialized. I mean, I was in college not even getting all the activities that these kids get. Yeah, yeah. So I can only imagine. And also, like, so it claps out for the for the staff, because gosh, like all of that care and all the documentation and do with that too. Like, if you were to take it away from just the beautiful side of it, like I know that's a lot.

SPEAKER_00 36:03

Oh, so much, yeah, so much background, silent, like invisible work going into that that you have to appreciate everything, everyone, the teams, so much going on there. Yeah, and it like it's cool too. So they have that section, and then they also have the section where kids come in and just kind of have services for a few hours a day, and then they go back to their homes.

SPEAKER_01 36:25

Uh, just kind of it like I said, it depends on what their needs are and what kind of services, yeah, they're like I think that's great too, depending on what they can afford or what they need, like, or and it's just good for them to also see a variety of other kids that they can build a community with. Yes. And that's all we're about is community. Yes. And I believe everyone deserves community. Uh yeah, yeah. You can't thrive without that. So I can't thrive without it. Oh my gosh. I honestly think I would be a lot further in life if I was absorbed in a community at a younger age. Like it, like, you know, like I just always wanted to stay in my own home, you know, and socialize as much. And so I'm I'm like envious of these kids. I'm like, put me in there. No, I'm just kidding. Sorry, that might be part of the fun. That might be of ill taste to say.

SPEAKER_00 37:13

I don't know. Like they do, I know that they they are open to volunteer opportunities too. So if that's something that sounds like would be of interest to you, they are open to volunteer opportunities. If you do want to go be put in, be put in, coach. Yeah, and I'm sure with summer coming up, they are gonna probably have a lot of activities. I imagine so. Yes, yes. So definitely something to look into if you are looking for something in the Wichita area to enrich your life in a really great way. Take a look at Heart Spring. As for the gala, I oh my gosh, I Do you have your outfit? Yes, I have my outfit. Okay, so here's the deal. I because the toenail polish got ripped off, this is a true story, middle toe. And my shoes that night um are like will show my toes. I have my manny putty appointment at 11. I have my Jennifer's gonna do my hair. Jennifer's uh short my hair girl is gonna do my hair on Saturday afternoon. And then, yes, and I have my dress all picked out. I'm doing my own makeup, but you know what? After my wedding and all that kind of stuff and all the tutorials I've seen on TikTok, I have full confidence in my makeup skills these days. Oh, you've got it. I'm I'm so ready.

SPEAKER_01 38:26

Well, I didn't, yeah, I didn't buy a new dress or anything. I need to make what I have work. I have I'm so excited. I have two options. I'm so excited. You're gonna look so pretty. Thank you. I haven't gotten my sparkles out in a while. I fit into my dresses that I've tried on. So that's good. The one I wanted to wear, my black one would leave. Uh-huh. It's zipper is broken. Oh shoot. So that one's not happening because I don't have time to sew it. Yeah. You're a messy girl these days. Oh, so that's not sewing. Um, we'll deal with that later. So we're gonna go with one of the sequenced dresses. And I know it's formal, but I think. Oh, you're gonna look fantastic. I think I'm gonna end up in the shorter one. We'll see. You're gonna crush it like velvet. Thank you. And the heels I really want to wear are the ones I wore to your wedding. But the thing is, you know that clasp is so evil. Not a clasp. No. So I either need to figure out a new belt situation for those heels, like on my own accord, but I don't think I have time for that, so I might just be wearing the ones I wore on my birthday.

SPEAKER_00 39:28

That's great. That you gave me. Yeah, oh dang. Oh, stop it. I know they look beautiful. They look great. Didn't you wear those to Brent's birthday party? I did. They looked wonderful. I think that they'll match things fine enough, but I'm gonna do that. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:40

That's also gonna bring clear, they'll match. I'm also gonna bring sneakers for the brickyard later. Uh oh, that's right, we're going to a band in Kansas afterwards. Because those heels, my feet were sore for after I wore them. There is no cushion on those heels. There's no cushion. I love them. They're so cute. Thank you for giving them to me.

SPEAKER_00 39:59

Absolutely. Thank you for taking them from me. I couldn't wear them. They were, they just didn't fit right. They were a hazard to my healthy ankles. I can't imagine what they would have done to yours. Oh god. Um, yeah, but yeah, I love that you brought up that we're going to abandon Kansas afterwards because Abandoned Kansas plays this Saturday night at Breakyard starting at 9. We will be very late and very dressed up. But also in sneakers.

SPEAKER_01 40:23

Sneakers and sparkles. But yeah, that'll be fun. I'm gonna be exhausted because I'm coming straight from Oklahoma City.

SPEAKER_00 40:30

Right, you have a big week ahead of you.

SPEAKER_01 40:32

And then my mom wants to go to the zoo the next day, and I'm like, I hope I can make it. Well, I haven't been to the zoo in a while.

SPEAKER_00 40:38

Wichita zoo, probably a lot out there. So oh, that'll be fun though. You know, it's very walkable. It's very I love a good walk. Yeah. I wonder what the weather's gonna be like. We'll find out. You never know these things. We'll find out. Oh my gosh. So I'm excited. Although this is happening uh Saturday night, the gala is happening Saturday night, March 28th, and it's gonna be out at the B-29 Dock Hangar. Very excited. If you've never been to that venue, or uh it's actually also it kind of it has a museum aspect to it too. It is, yes, it's the hangar for Dock, but it's also they have like a whole lot of cool in interactive uh historical information about Doc and about the women in aviation, all kinds of cool stuff. So definitely check it out if you ever get a chance to go out to the B29 Dock Hangar. And if you I don't know if tickets are this is something I don't know. I'm not sure if tickets are still available to the Gala. I have I wish I I wish I would have looked that up before.

SPEAKER_01 41:40

If not, I'm sure that we can look it up and put something for you to at least donate.

SPEAKER_00 41:45

I can update I can put an update in the show notes. I will be sure to do that. Yeah. Um, and if there is a link that still leads to ticket sales, I will put that in there too. Yes, ticket sales and also donating. It's a great freaking gosh. Yes. Not too much. It really is. Oh my gosh, it's supposed to be and and like the event is going to be incredible. We're talking cocktails, I don't have any dancing five-course dinner. Is that just my bike? Oh, yeah, there's definitely dancing. There's dancing. There's like the last two hours of it are the after party. Oh gosh. Um, there's awards, there's I believe a silent auction, all kinds of fun stuff. Uh it's gonna be a hell of a night, and then we're going to abandon Kansas after that. So much fun. Coming on, a lot to look forward to, but even more so, the next week at the same venue, B29 Doghanger, we will be seeing, we have been invited by Ballet Wichita, our lovely friends, to come see their production of Breaking Barriers, which is a whole historical tribute to the Dock Em Sit-In. So I'm very excited about that. We got a little teaser of it at the sparkling social event that we went to a couple of weeks ago. And God looks amazing. I feel like I'm gonna cry. Yeah, I'm definitely gonna tear shed. It's going to be a beautiful production.

SPEAKER_01 43:05

Bring your tissues. Bring your tissues in your snot pockets because it's happening. That's so true. I think it's happening.

SPEAKER_00 43:13

And I know tickets are available still for that. So that is happening April 3rd and 4th at the B29 Dockhanger. Tickets can be bought at balletwichtaw.com. And definitely, um, if you grab tickets for April 3rd, you're gonna see these two there. So come say hi to us. We would love to see you. Come enjoy the fun and come check out that beautiful venue because wow, yeah, what a transformation.

SPEAKER_01 43:40

And if you can't make it to Support Ballet Wichita, you know, you could always buy Messi as our polished merch and then support them by getting them 10% of the merch going to them. That's right. You know you want that cool merch, girl. Guys, it's soft as shit and it is comfortable and it washes well, it doesn't shrink. Like, it's good. It's great. Unless you're like drying your stuff on super extra high ha heat, you're fine.

SPEAKER_00 44:03

You're fine. Yes. Okay. Now it is time to embrace a little chaos. Oh gosh, what are we doing? It is time for our hits different segments. Oh, I forgot about this. Okay, okay, refuel. Refuel today. I love it. As she pours more rose into her glass. Cheers to Getaway Car from Taylor Swift's Reputation album, which is our hits different segment tonight. Tell me your thoughts about Getaway Car. Okay. It's probably my second favorite song. I knew you were going to love it. I knew, knew, knew, knew it.

SPEAKER_01 44:41

I think it's fun. Yes. It's care-free. It's wow. I said fun, so like I sounded so catty. Holy shit. Okay, that's funny. I'm sorry. I just re-it took a while for it to echo in my head. Um and then I was like, whoa, Rachel, calm down. No, I really liked it. It like resonated a couple different ways. For me, it just like made me want to put my hand out of like a car window and be like going on like a girls' fun road trip. Like and us like getting away from our troubles. Yeah. It also kind of made me think and feel like sorry, am I supposed to be going straight into this? Yeah. Okay. It kind of made me feel like she was talking about and also made me think about like those relationships or moments you dive yourself into just to like because it feels good. And you're escaping. Yeah. And and all the moments are so freaking fun. And you're on fire and all the fireworks are going off, and you're just like, yeah, I'm laughing, I'm crying, we're doing all the fun things. Like it's a great time, but it doesn't last long. Doesn't last long. And you know, like it's like like fountains are my favorite fireworks. I love a good fountain. I love a good fountain. But guess what? It'll last like a five minute tops, and that's if you pay a lot of money for it. So if you buy like a five dollar fountain, you're getting three minutes of showtime. You know, in the real world, you're lucky if you get five minutes out of$50 in gas. So it also reminded me, of course, it hit a little closer home, like, because it's a driveway car, like, and all of it's hitting like different because you know, my last year's chip that was long distance, there was a lot of drive time. Yeah. We did meet so explosively, like, and it just worked, and everything was hokey dory.

SPEAKER_00 46:35

Yeah, that was very fast love.

SPEAKER_01 46:38

And fun and fast, and there's a beautiful aspect to that. Sure. Knocking that, but fuck him. Um, but she did. I did, yeah. Oh, wait, ooh.

SPEAKER_00 46:49

No, she said that. She said that. I made a man on the other thing, too.

SPEAKER_01 46:54

Yeah. It was safe, guys. Safety first. Okay. Anywho. Anywho, so a lot to cover there. Yeah, it was just a lot of driving, but like we had so many crazy nights where we did a lot of fun stuff. We had a blast. But I also feel like we were both like just going through a transition in our life. And so we were both in our own getaway car.

SPEAKER_00 47:19

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 47:20

Wow. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's a hell of a metaphor there, guys. I think we were just both in our getaway car. Okay. Like I was his, he was mine. Oh jeez, sensible. But it was a blast. Yeah. And nothing was really that bad until all of a sudden, boom, I was getting freaking left at the bar, and he was like, see you later in your not getaway car. Take an Uber. I'm taking my drive-home car.

unknown 47:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:48

But I feel like that's what it really resonated with me. It was like, and not just that last one I had, but a lot of the different ones that you had I've had, like, even not even just relationships, but friendships. Like, yeah. And um, and not even just that spurt one that's like such a high peak and so positive. Because I've had plenty of this, like, such a positive experience, like getting to know each other, and we're still totally cordial, total nothing. There was no bad fall. It was just we went on with our lives because we were each other's getaway car to like live free and feel better and help each other feel better. And I also feel like it reminded me kind of like of a girls' trip kind of vibe, like where it's like, hey, we both are stressed out as shit. Let's go have a fun time. And we're just like with our hands out of the window. Rolling down the window when it's raining. Oh my gosh. Yes. So it's kind of the same time. So I feel like you can get that even with like a girlfriend. Like when I went with my friend Allie to Kansas City just randomly, because she was like, Hey, I'm stressed out, I need a weekend. And I was like, I can't afford it right now. She was like, I'll cover you. I'll be your getaway car. And then I and we were just each other's getaway car, and we had just a fun couple nights in Kansas City and had a fun time. Like I think that it's kind of a free-spirited song. Yeah. For lack of better words. Yeah. I know I kind of remembered.

SPEAKER_00 49:01

No, it no, it really is. It's a free-spirited song, and it's a messy song. It's like it talks about a messy time in her life. And when she was like trying to figure out her relationship or the end of one, you know. And then maybe the beginning of a rebound. Maybe.

SPEAKER_01 49:17

Yeah, maybe it was a rebound situation. I I don't like to put that term on everything because I think a rebound is It's also a stepping stone. I think, yeah, stepping stone. I was gonna say something like a growth metaphor of some sort, but stepping stone is a lily pad, if you will. That's right. It's just it'll get you across the pond you're sinking in. Hippity hop, motherfucker. Don't let it bring you down. That's right.

SPEAKER_00 49:42

It's a lily pad for me.

SPEAKER_01 49:43

It's not an island. Facts.

SPEAKER_00 49:47

Shit, that's good. Put that on a shirt. Shit. Oh dear. Wow, we really hit some, we hit some things with this one. We do feel like sorry. No, it's good. This is what we're all about here. I to me that okay, that song, that album, oh my god, that album is my favorite album for one. Reputation. It's my favorite. It's also the only vinyl of hers that I don't own. Because I was waiting for her to put out the Taylor's version and she's decided she's not going to.

SPEAKER_01 50:22

Oh my god, your birthday is coming up. I wish I would have known that.

SPEAKER_00 50:25

Tim. He knows. I I don't know. I don't know. It's a who knows. I mean, he knows. Ten minutes later. Um so it's the only vinyl that I don't have. It is my favorite album, which is crazy. I've like, I was the biggest clown for she's like during the Eras tour, all of the many, many times that all the Swifties thought that she was going to release Reputation Taylor's version.

SPEAKER_01 50:51

So it's the only one you don't own is the Reputation album.

SPEAKER_00 50:54

The only one that I don't own is the right is my favorite. I was waiting for her to put Taylor's version, like clowning along with all the other Swifties during the Eras Tour, every time we thought it was going to be released.

SPEAKER_01 51:04

And her version.

SPEAKER_00 51:05

And she is not releasing Taylor's version because she can't replicate that point in her life, which I totally understand because I was going through this is the year that I filed for divorce. Okay. Okay. Okay, you were driving your own getaway car. Well, I didn't quite realize it. Yes, I I was, and I oh my god, it was such a tricky time in my life. That 2018 is when I went to the Reputation Tour. So sh I think she released the album in 2017, but I was gonna ask what year. I had I filed for divorce in I believe September. No, oh my god, I went to the ERIS tour and filed for divorce in the same or the reputation tour and filed for divorce in the same month. It was September of 2018. 18 when I did all of those things. I saw Jenny Wood that night, the down the street at the Crown Uptown. Then I went to the Reputation Tour the next night, and then later in the month I filed for divorce. And it was funny because I remember during the Reputation Tour when she played Getaway Car, and I was thinking about my relationship, and I was thinking about the friends that I had, like some of my really strong friends who had had my back. Like one of them, he lives in Malta, and the other one lives in Wales. They're both European friends, and like we had a whole friend group, but these two friends of mine, we were having a conversation in San Diego that that earlier that year about like the difficulties in my marriage, and they're like, Man, if we could just like we if we live closer, we would just come swoop you up and we'd take you to San Diego year round. And it was so just sweet and supportive of them. And so when Getaway Car came on at the Reputation Tour, I got all of my feels, and I remember that conversation that I'd had with them, and I I like took a video clip of her singing getaway car, and I assented to I think I tweeted both of them.

SPEAKER_01 53:09

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 53:12

This is public, this was, I believe I tweeted both of them, like publicly tweeted both of them. The clip to Getaway Car. Oh my. But it like I was literally quite clearly very emotional in all of my feels about it, and just felt so supported by the group of friends that I had because it wasn't just those two guys, it was also like a whole circle of friends. Like you were included in that. You didn't know any of these people, but you I was still there.

SPEAKER_01 53:39

I was a home-based person.

SPEAKER_00 53:40

The home base person who did drive who did help me pack the getaway car, actually. Now that we think about it, there were we had a troop come in and help me pack my getaway car.

SPEAKER_01 53:50

So but no, yeah, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to make it sound like I was putting a negative by talking about it being like men or relationships that are the way because I think there's such a positive influence in that, even when it does end up being a cautionary tale. Like, I think that you spill your because that's your way of getting away mentally from everything else you're going away with sometimes. Yeah. That release that you get, yeah. But also the support system around it. Yeah. I think that's beautiful. So I love that you brought that up. Yeah. Well, yeah, that was a cautionary. Because that it's also part of mine is like I just picture like being like, like, putting our hands out the window, drive away car.

SPEAKER_00 54:26

Get away from the stress. Yeah, the reality of it.

SPEAKER_01 54:29

I went to drop off all my crap, all of my ex's crap on his mom's door and be like, who driving away, and not even literally, but just all the other things like that, too. I just feel like us, like when we went on a girl's trip, even this would have been the perfect Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 54:43

That was the next month when we went on our girl, when our we went on our trip to Colorado. Yes, it was the very next month. It was like literally weeks later. Oh my god. Like maybe three weeks after I filed for divorce. So we went on our college dogs, we didn't the boys, and then we went. Then we're gonna go to the show. And we got our first tattoos together. Woo! Mountains. Heart. But actually, we didn't do that until we got back to Woodstraw.

SPEAKER_01 55:08

Well, we tried to do two times, but everyone was closed. So we were like, okay, we're going first time we get in Wichita. And we I love And we did. I love that we actually did. And then we went to Ziggy's and got Summer Brews right after. And we were all wrapped up like we were so hardcore.

SPEAKER_00 55:23

But it's like this little tattoo. We were like, I know. It took five minutes. I can't take off my wrapping till like yeah, and then I have to like use all this lotion all the time. Oh dear. I'm sorry. So yeah, that that was like when I think it when I hear getaway car, there's that part that I think about, and then there's the part there's the viral video of her and Jack Antinoff writing the song together and they get to the bridge. I'm in a getaway car. Oh, but you at the hotel. And like there's the point where they like get like they come their thoughts completely align and they say it at the same time and get so excited. And I love that that's on video. That's cool. And then, and then during the Erasour, I'm such a nerd about this stuff. You are, I love it. And then during the Eras Tour at one of the shows, I can't remember which one, I think it was in the UK. She had Jack Antinoff come and and they reenacted that video on stage right before she sang Getaway Car. It was, I think I cried. So silly. I was what I was one of the people that watched the Erators on live streams.

SPEAKER_01 56:31

I also respect that she was like, I'm not gonna go back and race it because Yeah, you can't replicate that kind of anger in your life. I can't, and I don't want to. She can't much happier place. And she thought it was perfect enough the way it was, which it is. Like I still loved it. Oh my god, I love that song so much. And if she were to do it now, she maybe would sound too happy. Her voice is different now.

SPEAKER_00 56:53

Yeah, there's not gonna be all that like angst and emotion. No, she I don't think that exists in her anymore. And so I love that she's not remaking that album.

SPEAKER_01 57:02

I think that'd be like Avril Levine where you're singing what's that song called Dang? Complicated.

SPEAKER_00 57:06

Oh, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 57:07

Oh, yeah, basically all her songs are complicated.

SPEAKER_00 57:10

I love oh my god, I used to I think Avril Levine was my Taylor's lift before Taylor Slift was. Honestly, I just love her.

SPEAKER_01 57:16

I think she's the reason I wanted to skateboard. The fondest skater boy. But also, no, they're just sprawny. Sorry, guys, but I like a thick knack and bang hands. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 57:28

Snap. True. Yeah, well, sometimes we're center stage in the drama, and sometimes we're just trying to get out of the scene. So is that a lyric? You just dropped. No, that's not a lyric.

SPEAKER_01 57:42

Oh my god. Okay. It sounded like an opera levine lyric. Kind of hilarious. We emotionally.

SPEAKER_00 57:52

Well, anyway, so this this episode is contained a lot. Like we've been a lot of places and we've been on a hell of a journey. I know.

SPEAKER_01 57:59

I'm sorry, we went bouncy all over the place, but I feel like we really needed this. I think so, dude.

SPEAKER_00 58:04

We just ooh, yeah. Like this is also part of our hangout time. I'm pretty sure you guys realize that. But I'm just putting it out there. Anyway, wow, what an episode. We have a lot coming up. We oh my gosh, on next week's episode, which by the way, we recorded before today. Shh. No, we didn't. It's really good. We are we host Jamie Siepel. She is with Oh my god, what is my sweets? Home Too Sweets. And she's going to be the next visionary. She is. She's going to be the line to be.

SPEAKER_01 58:37

I don't know what to do.

SPEAKER_00 58:38

She is running as a visionary with Blood Cancer United. And so You nailed it. Yes. I'm like on the recording known as Leukemia Lymphoma. Yeah, Leukemia Lymphoma Society. And so it's it's it's a great episode. We recorded it yesterday. It's going to publish obviously next Thursday, April 2nd. And look forward to that because we're talking all about these upcoming events that she has. Yeah. She's got uh and we'll talk all about the mission and everything. You guys are gonna love it. It's great. I think that was an amazing one.

SPEAKER_01 59:12

And of course, we're gonna talk about more in our next one to after it r releases, I bet. But yeah, it was really refreshing to speak with her. Yeah, I know. She's such a light. I'm really excited. She is the light, and I'm really excited to see what events we can go to.

SPEAKER_00 59:29

I know, I'm excited to see what kind of what which ones of hers that we're able to go to as well. I think it'll be awesome.

SPEAKER_01 59:34

Yes, and I love the way that she's so good at the community and it like all encompassing the community with all her events. I think that's very important. I think that's awesome. I think a lot of people don't understand what this project does.

SPEAKER_00 59:51

I know, I I feel like it's very, yeah, it's very like a lot of people don't know. It's unfortunately. But you know, that's why if we do things like this podcast, we try to spread awareness for the awesome things that are happening in Wichita and hope that it will bring to light things that you don't know, things that you've never known about, things that you are super excited to hear about and want to get more involved with. So we love our community, we love Wichita, we love our listeners, and we love each other.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:18

And we love you guys so much! Cheers! Cheers. So this happened. Thank you for joining us and all of our rambunctious rambles. We love it. Cheers.