The Naturist Vibe

Love, Music and The Perv

Dan Speers

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In this episode of The Naturist Vibe, Gabby and Dan explore what authenticity, art, and accountability really mean in naturism.

From the raw vulnerability of Naked Love, a French film that redefines beauty through illness, to the liberating rhythm of Sky Hy’s Nudism 101, a track that celebrates body freedom through music, the hosts connect each story to the heart of ethical naturism — respect, inclusion, and courage.

They also take a deeper look at Hollywood’s latest take on nudity with Henry Winkler’s comedic “perverted nudist” in Loot. While the laughs land, Gabby and Dan examine what happens when comedy becomes the only story people see and why real naturist communities deserve stories that show truth, consent, and accountability.


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Includes messages from Gabby and Dan

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Gabby:

Hey, beautiful Nas. Welcome back to the Natures Vibe podcast. I am Gabby, the Crown Nudie.

Dan:

And I'm Dan Maker of things. So Gabby, what's been going on lately?

Gabby:

A lot, Dan. A lot has been going on. So recently we had to reschedule. The RK underground concert that we were going to have on October 25th. We are rescheduling. That new date will be announced in November, but it will be in the spring. And this will give an opportunity for more people to make time to come out and enjoy good ethical nature's time. Um, what I love about rescheduling it is that we have a time to really think about what really resonates with our audience, the Nats audience, as well as the natures curious audience. So we did some revamping of the show theme. The lineup changed kind of slightly, not too much, and we still at the same venue, the same city. Um, but there's so much more that's gonna happen, and we took the feedback and we're gonna make it happen,

Dan:

and that is really amazing. I mean, I'm really excited for this.

Gabby:

Another thing to point out is that because we love our natures community so much, what's exciting about this is that all Anna and TNS members will be able to attend the concert for free.

Dan:

I think people are just gonna love that because it'll give them the opportunity to enjoy something like this. And especially in an urban environment where NAM is hard to come by.

Gabby:

It really is. And I think what we're doing with RK Underground is bringing Naturism to bigger cities, starting right here in our home city, Jersey City. A lot of people, especially the younger generation of nature, is they don't have that easy accessibility to. Uh, some of the nature is clubs out there, so we wanted to, you know, find a solution for them and that way they can continue to practice naturalism, but in a new, exciting way. And, um, we're excited for what's going to happen in the spring.

Dan:

Speaking of things that are coming up, what else are we working on?

Gabby:

Uh, yes. So rooted kind hair, which is set to launch in the summer of 2026. So next year lots of cool things are happening, including, uh, production is about to start in the next couple of weeks. And just so that everybody knows,'cause I, I think there are a lot of people are like, why do you even call yourself the Crown nudity? And most people might think, oh,'cause she thinks she's a queen. And while that is very much true, I am referring to my crown. Which is my Afro, and a lot of us in the black and brown community do refer to our hair as our crown, so hence the crowned nudie,

Dan:

which is very apropos.

Gabby:

Yes it is. Yes, it is apropos. Uh, as you say, but, um, I know some people were just kind of confused by why I am calling myself the Crown Nudie as if I'm the queen of all Nudists or Naturist, but no, it does refer to my, my big Afro and I affectionately call it My Crown. So, but what's exciting about Rutkin hair? it will be a multipurpose product for both your hair and your body. And I think it speaks to the, uh, comfort and the convenience natures need when they're outdoors or traveling. You don't wanna have too much, we barely have clothes, so why would we want a gazillion one products for our skin and hair? You know, just choose a multifunctional product that speaks to ethical nam, body autonomy, body positivity, the body freedom made by a nudist for nudist, and I think it's gonna be really awesome. I can't wait. There's some heirloom ingredients that are our hero ingredients of the products that I am so excited to share more about. Tutorials are gonna come up. The making of the product is coming up. I am really excited about this.

Dan:

I think people are gonna really enjoy this when it finally comes out. It's really unique and different in this space. I mean, there's a lot of people that just buy whatever that's on the shelf, but this is something that's specifically formulated for natures in particular,

Gabby:

and being outdoors, protecting your skin outdoors, protecting your, your crown outdoors, but also being environmentally. Conscious, you know, a lot of nature spaces want you to also be respectful of their facilities and of, you know, the land that they're on. And what better way to do that is by being conscious with the products that you choose. Yeah.

Dan:

So we've got something else that's exciting that's coming up.

Gabby:

Yeah. Yeah. Are you ready for it, Dan?

Dan:

I am stoked.

Gabby:

Yeah. So, um. If you're new here, Dan and I, uh, started Nature's Business Network earlier this year and it's a free listing for nature's businesses, nature's owned businesses, resorts, you know, retail products, services. Content, content creators all to connect in one place and collaborate with each other. If you want to list your business so businesses, so other natures can find you easily, and one member is play a sun out of Mexico and um, we are going to pay them a special visit in November and. Partly because we wanna meet them, but also partly it's getting cold here in New Jersey. So it's a win-win.

Dan:

This is very true. It's gonna be really nice to meet people that, um, have listed with us on the business.

Gabby:

Yeah. And are so down for spreading ethical naturism and are doing their part as well. They're not just spreading the word, but they're also embodying it. Yeah. They're living it. Yeah, and we can't wait to see the folks there who are running the, the space and you know, also visit Mexico, eat some great food, drink some really good tequila, and just have a ball while also, you know, sharing with others about ethical nature. I think this is really good. But, um, moving on today, we are diving into stories on this episode of The Nature's Vibe Podcast that celebrate truth and freedom from music that uplifts self-expression to art that explores vulnerability and how it connects to body confidence.

Dan:

but first it's time for our weekly vibe. Check every week before we jump into the world's noise, we take a moment to breathe and reconnect the vibe. Check is that pause, that grounding moment where we remember what this movement is really about. Naturalism at its core isn't just about being nude. It's about being honest with yourself, with others, with life. Because when you strip away the layers, the clothes, the pressure to perform, the fear of being seen, what's left is something real. And being real isn't always comfortable. Sometimes it's raw, sometimes it's stings a little. But that discomfort, that's growth, that's truth showing up in its purest form.

Gabby:

And we're calling that the authenticity isn't comfort. It's courage vibe because what you are describing, Dan, is exactly why nature is so transformative. being authentic isn't easy. It's intentional, it's choosing to stand in your truth, even when it would be simpler to hide behind what's expected. It's the quiet bravery, the kind that says, this is me. No edits, no filters, no apologies. And that's what I want our listeners to carry with them today. The courage to just be,

Dan:

you know, that's beautifully said. So as you listen to today's episode, keep that in mind. Authenticity doesn't always feel safe, but it always sets you free. So when we talk about authenticity isn't comfort, it's courage. We're not just talking about body confidence or taking your clothes off at the beach. We're talking about what happens when your body changes without your consent. When you don't get to choose the story your body tells, but it still becomes a story that everyone can see.

Gabby:

And that takes us right into our next conversation, this upcoming screening of Naked Love originally released in 1981 as La Nu, directed by Yannick Bellen. It is showing this December at the Florence Gould Theater in New York. And we're going, we're going as the natures vibe. We're going as natures. And honestly, I'm going as a woman who understands what it means to negotiate with her body in public.

Dan:

This film is special. The story follows Claire, an interpreter for unesco, who falls for Simon, an oceanographer. She meets at a conference just as that intimacy starts to feel real. Claire find a lump in her breast, is diagnosed with cancer and faces a mastectomy. Her first thought isn't, how do I survive? It's how do I let someone see me like this?

Gabby:

That hits me so hard because it's not just will I live, it's also will I still be allowed to be desired? That's a gendered layer. That's a patriarchy layer. That's a beauty standard layer.

Dan:

Exactly. And Bellon a woman filmmaker working independently when that was almost unheard of. Centers the story on Claire's perspective, not Simon's. The camera never asks can he handle it? It asks, can she claim herself back? Bellon consistently placed women in her lives at the center documenting them with realism rather than fantasy.

Gabby:

That's huge. When you're a woman director in that era and you say, I am going to film a woman's body while it's being rewritten by illness, You are not just making cinema, you are making evidence. You are saying, this is what it looks like to still deserve tenderness after.

Dan:

And that's what makes Naked Love revolutionary. It approaches the body not as an object, but as a record of living. Bellin shoots the medical process, almost like a documentary, the checkups, the radiation treatments, the waiting rooms. The other women she meets. You see the routine of survival instead of glamorized tragedy.

Gabby:

That's naturalism language because ethical naturism is exactly that. The body is real. The body is allowed, the body tells the truth. This film is an asking, is her body still attractive? It's asking, is her body still hers? That's body autonomy. The foundation of ethical naturalism,

Dan:

yes. And Claire's fear isn't just mortality, it's losing what she's been told. Defines womanhood, her breasts, her power of seduction,

Gabby:

and so many of us know that negotiation, if I change, do I stop being lovable. That's not theory. That's everyday reality.

Dan:

Marlene Job who plays Claire gives one of her bravest performances. Critics said it was among the first films to show breast cancer on screen, not as a plot device, but as a psychological and emotional earthquake for the woman living it.

Gabby:

And that nuance matters. Most films about illness make the woman delicate and tragic. Bellon said, no. She said, this woman is angry, afraid, messy, sensual, alive. The body isn't here to be pitied. It's here to be listened to,

Dan:

and the love story deepens that point. When Claire is diagnosed, she pushes Simon away to spare herself. Rejection. But Simon, the man who literally studies depth returns, he shows up. He doesn't turn away that scene, him at her hospital bedside lands like a prayer. I still choose you.

Gabby:

That's intimacy. Without performance, that's nakedness. I will sit with you in the body you have now, not the one I fantasize about. That is consent, reverence, and repair.

Dan:

Exactly. It's love that adjusts without fetishizing the wound. It's not, I'm a hero for loving you anyway. It's, you are still you.

Gabby:

And that's why we are covering this on the NAS vibe. Ethical naturalism isn't, all bodies are sexy. It's all bodies are worthy bodies with scars, with surgeries, with stories. If you make people feel unworthy in their real skin, you're not practicing ethical naturism, you're just doing aesthetics. It's not ethical natures if only the cute nudity is welcomed.

Dan:

And that's exactly the conversation this film forces. It was co-written by Francois Prevo who had lived through breast cancer herself. So this story is not fiction, it's testimony,

Gabby:

which means when we see Claire in treatment or sitting in a raiding room with other women, it's not melodrama. It's real it that era. You weren't supposed to talk about breast cancer in public, and you certainly weren't supposed to talk about what it did to your sense of womanhood.

Dan:

Mellon keeps everything understated. No melodrama, no romanticized suffering. She lets the quiet everyday moment speak that restraint was called courageous by critics at the time,

Gabby:

and here's why that matters. For natures ethical naturalism is the politics of presence. It says everyone deserves to exist and share spaces without being turned into a spectacle. When Claire wakes up post-op, and Simon is still there. What she's been given is permission to remain visible.

Dan:

If you run a nature space, ask yourself, is that true in your community or do you still center on one version of the body? Because if you do that, you're not healing anyone. You're just selling a fantasy of liberation.

Gabby:

That's why I am planning to host a reflection after this screening called When Nudity means Survival. Because for so many people being seen isn't about seduction. It's about reclaiming. It's saying, this body is mine, and it is worthy of care, attention and tenderness.

Dan:

Yeah, that title alone gives me the chills.

Gabby:

Sometimes nudity isn't chosen for pleasure. It's confrontation. You're face to face with what you've survived and you chose to stay.

Dan:

That's courage and that's the vibe today.

Gabby:

So if you are in New York or can make it naked, love screens December 2nd at the Florence Gould to theater Come sit with us, feel this, and be part of a conversation where nudity isn't opposed, it's testimony.

Dan:

And after we sit in that truth, we're shifting the energy because there's joy and body freedom too. And somebody out there, just put that joy on a beat.

Gabby:

Up next, nudism 1 0 1 by Sky High. The most affirming natures anthem we've heard in a minute.

Dan:

After sitting with the vulnerability of Naked Love, I think it's time we shift into something a little lighter. Because natures isn't only about confronting truth. It's about celebrating it.

Gabby:

Exactly. Because freedom isn't just quiet reflection, it's movement, rhythm, connection. And right now nothing's capturing that spirit better than music.

Dan:

And that brings us to this week's spotlight. Atlanta based artists Sky high in his track, NM 1 0 1, it's a house electronic blend, but it feels bigger than any one genre. It's liberation with a beat.

Gabby:

Yes, it's soulful, smooth, and honest. The kind of song that doesn't ask for attention, it just is. He's singing about comfort, confidence, and being unfiltered. He's describing ethical naturism without ever saying the word.

Dan:

Alright, now we're gonna play this song for everyone.

Gabby:

That right there, that's Nam and Self-Love in audio form.

Dan:

Yeah, it's the soundtrack for a clothing optional day party. People vibing, dancing, nobody judging, everybody just being,

Gabby:

and honestly, that's what nature is, should feel like. What's interesting, and we've seen this on Reddit and Instagram, is that people are starting to talk about how the music at Nature Spaces actually reveals whether a community is truly inclusive,

Dan:

right? So folks online are saying the playlist tells the truth. If all you ever hear at a club or resort is country or classic rock, it says This space was built for one kind of crowd, but when the music includes pop r and b, hip hop, Afrobeat, EDM, dancehall, soul funk house, when you hear a mix of cultures, it signals that everybody's welcome.

Gabby:

exactly. Because music is cultural invitation. It tells you who belongs in a room before anyone even speaks. Diverse music equals diverse energy. It's one of the simplest ways to show inclusion without needing a mission statement,

Dan:

and that's the heart of ethical naturalism, creating spaces where everyone feels safe, respected, and represented. Not just physically, but culturally too.

Gabby:

Yes. Ethical nature is means body freedom and cultural freedom. It's not just you can take off your clothes here, it's you can bring your full self here. And music helps people believe that

Dan:

because when someone hears their culture reflected, whether it's reggae, trap, afrobeat. Or even a pop remix, they recognize that this community sees them, and that's how you get younger, more diverse people to show up.

Gabby:

Exactly. The next generation finds tism through culture, through sound, through art, through experiences that already speak their language. They're not looking for a brochure about body acceptance. They're looking for a vibe that feels real.

Dan:

And honestly, if your natures event still sounds like a campground radio from 1979, you're not reaching that generation

Gabby:

facts. If the playlist never changes, neither will your membership.

Dan:

Boom. That's the line,

Gabby:

because music sets the tone for connection. It tells people this is not just a nude space. This is a living space. And when you bring together different genres, you're not just playing songs, you're creating belonging.

Dan:

So Sky High's, nudism 1 0 1 is more than a track. It's a reminder that Freedom has many rhythms. That naturalism should sound as diverse as the people it hopes to attract.

Gabby:

Exactly. Imagine a natures gathering where the playlist moves from Ika Badu to Burna Boy, to Calvin Harris, to Sheia to Fleetwood Mac, and everyone's dancing. Everyone's free, everyone's seen. That's the Naturism we are building

Dan:

and that's the vibe. Sky high. If you're listening, we want you on the natures vibe. You made a song that feels like the future of this movement,

Gabby:

so go stream. Nudism 1 0 1 is actually gonna be, listed in the show notes added to your NAS playlist. And let's make naturism sound like the world we wanna see. Diverse, liberated, and alive.

Dan:

Alright, next up, we're moving from the beat to Apple tv. Henry Winkler just played a nudist on loot and yeah, Hollywood still doesn't get it

Gabby:

at all. Let's unpack how comedy keeps confusing nudity with perversion and why it's time for a rewrite.

Dan:

So Gabby Loot season three premiere, Henry Winkler shows up as Gerald Canning, the self-declared enlightened nudist billionaire, running a clothing optional commune called Fiji. He walks out in a silk robe and gold chains grins and says, oh, hello. I know I smelled clothes. Welcome to vi, and with a crowd of naked elders dancing behind him. And I'm still sitting there thinking, really, we're still doing this in 2025,

Gabby:

right? The whole setup is played for laughs. You got blurred out bodies, fruit baskets as props and used as it innuendos for sexual stuff. A tipp covered in penis art and Winkler licking hummus off his fingers while saying things like create art with what God gave us. Nipples and penis tips. The audience laughs. Critics called him fearlessly funny scene stealing and said he embraces the role fully appearing in minimal attire. And yes, it's outrageous and charming. Wrinkler sells it.

Dan:

And look, you know, nudity for comedy isn't automatically the problem. Comedy has always used nakedness to explore awkwardness, ego, or vulnerability. That's fine. The problem is when that's all we ever see. When nudity becomes shorthand for pervert or weirdo?

Gabby:

Exactly. Because let's be honest, those characters do exist in nature spaces. They really do. And we're not pretending that they don't. There are people who treat naturalism like an excuse to ignore boundaries. They hover, they overstep. They sexualize people who didn't consent. Those people are real. But the thing is, Hollywood stops the story there. they make that character the whole narrative.

Dan:

Exactly. They turn bad behavior into a punchline instead of showing accountability. What they never depict is what actually happens in an ethical nature's community. Okay. Most clubs have written consent policies, codes of conduct, and even ethics committees. When someone crosses a line, they're warned, then banned if necessary. It's just not tolerated

Gabby:

Well, we actually should say most clubs because there are some that still protect those people or look the other way. And that's part of the problem too. We're seeing it right now. Ethical naturalism requires more than rules. It requires the courage to enforce them,

Dan:

And that's what the show misses completely. In loot, Gerald is written as a lovable, eccentric, the funny old guy who's free spirited and fearless. He's not the villain, he's comic relief. But in real life, if someone acted like that, cornering guests making unwanted comments, blurring the line between consent and coercion, that's not entertainment. That's harm,

Gabby:

exactly. The show presents it as satire, but the reality is that. Behavior like that drives people, especially women, queer folks, trans nas and younger newcomers away from naturism entirely. In real life, when someone turns freedom into entitlement, the community doesn't laugh. It fractures people stop showing up. They stop feeling safe,

Dan:

and that's why this matters. Hollywood keeps portraying the funny nudist as the only type of naturist there is. And when millions of viewers see that, they assume that's us. They don't see the people gardening, swimming, sharing meals, making art, you know, the ordinary, respectful community. They just see Gerald.

Gabby:

And so the stereotype lives on. The media says nudists are weird. Some clubs ignore misconduct. New people stay away, and the cycle keeps feeding itself. That's why we're here to break it. And again,

Dan:

nudity and comedy isn't inherently wrong. it becomes wrong when it's the only story being told. Yeah, we could laugh and tell the truth. At the same time, show that nature's communities don't tolerate predators. That consent is sacred and that boundaries matter. That's a story worth watching.

Gabby:

Yes. Imagine a film where a nature's community actually confronts a boundary crosser, not as slapstick, but as a real moment of accountability. Someone violates trust, faces consequences, and the group works to rebuild safety. That's compelling human. And real,

Dan:

and it would do what ethical nature is already does. Take the messy reality and face it head on because we don't pretend everyone behaves perfectly, but we also don't turn harm into humor.

Gabby:

It's like any other community churches, wellness spaces, yoga studios. There are always people who exploit open environments. The question isn't whether they exist. It's how the community responds. Ethical Naturalism's answer is clear. Not here. Not ever again.

Dan:

Exactly. And I think it's time for natures to start telling that story ourselves through our own media, films, and podcasts, because if we don't, Hollywood will keep defining us as the punchline,

Gabby:

right? Ethical nature has every element of powerful storytelling vulnerability. Conflict growth, redemption community. It's not boring. It's misunderstood.

Dan:

So to the writers and filmmakers out there, don't just critique the stereotype, replace it. Show the difference between nudity, that's predatory and nudity. That's principled. Show the protectors, not just the offenders,

Gabby:

Because those Wrinkler characters exist, but they're the lesson, not the laughter.

Dan:

And until we start showing what accountability looks like inside natures, we can't expect Hollywood to get it right.

Gabby:

Because nudity for comedy isn't the issue. It becomes the issue when that's the only narrative shared.

Dan:

Exactly. And that's why we do this podcast, to shift the story from parody to truth.

Gabby:

Because the real nature story isn't about the creeps. It's about the community that says, not here, not in our space. All right. What a journey today from the vulnerability of naked love to the rhythm and liberation of Nudism 1 0 1 to the uncomfortable laughter of loot. Three very different worlds, but all asking the same question, what does freedom really mean?

Dan:

Oh yeah. I mean, in nick of love, we saw that freedom isn't always chosen. Sometimes it's survival. The courage to face a body that's changed and still say, I'm worthy of love. That's the kind of authenticity we mean when we talk about ethical naturalism. Not comfort, but courage.

Gabby:

Then in Nudism 1 0 1, we found freedom through sound, through music that invites everyone to show up as they are. Because inclusion doesn't start with a rule book. It starts with a vibe. It starts when a song makes someone who's never seen themself in naturalism think maybe this space is for me.

Dan:

And then LT reminded us what happens when that freedom gets distorted? When the story of natures gets told without ethics, without accountability, without truth, nudity becomes the joke instead of the mirror.

Gabby:

Exactly. Because nudity and comedy isn't the problem. It becomes the problem when it's the only story told. When the world never sees the nuance, the consent, the culture, the community that actually holds this lifestyle together.

Dan:

So here's the real vibe. Ethical Naturism is the balance between vulnerability, joy, and responsibility. It's the courage of naked love, the rhythm of Nudism 1 0 1 and the accountability missing in loot.

Gabby:

And if we can hold all three, the truth, the joy, and the boundaries we can build in naturism that's not just ethical, but alive. One that looks like the world we want to live in, diverse, safe, creative, and brave enough to tell the full story.

Dan:

Because at its best, naturalism isn't about what you take off. It's about what you choose to reveal. Honesty, empathy, humanity.

Gabby:

So wherever you are dressed, undressed or somewhere in between. Remember this, freedom without accountability is chaos, but accountability without freedom is fear. Ethical nature lives right in the middle.

Dan:

And that's the natures vibe.

Gabby:

Bye.