Episode 38: 90s TV Dads - The Sitcom Fathers Who Raised a Generation

Episode 38: 90s TV Dads - The Sitcom Fathers Who Raised a Generation

Growing up in the 90s, a lot of us learned about fatherhood from TV dads before we ever became dads ourselves.

From Uncle Phil in Fresh Prince to Tim Taylor in Home Improvement, Danny Tanner in Full House, and Carl Winslow in Family Matters these sitcom fathers shaped how an entire generation viewed parenting, masculinity, family, and showing up for your kids.

In Episode 38 of The Dad Edit Podcast, we dive into the impact of 90s sitcom dads, the lessons those shows quietly taught us, and why modern media feels so different today. We talk about fatherhood, nostalgia, family values, community, growing up without role models, and how TV once created shared family experiences that still influence us as fathers now.

This episode covers:• The most influential sitcom dads of the 90s

• Why shows like Fresh Prince, Boy Meets World, and Full House mattered so much

• How TV shaped our expectations of fatherhood and family life

• The difference between 90s family sitcoms and modern media culture

• Why today’s kids are growing up with YouTubers instead of TV role models

• The importance of presence, community, and positive male influence

If you grew up watching TGIF, sitcom reruns, or family TV nights, this episode is going to hit home.

Listen now and join the conversation about modern fatherhood, parenting, masculinity, and raising good kids in today’s world.

Join us for our monthly Dad Walk in London, Ontario, every third Saturday at 11AM at Kiwanis Park. Follow us on Instagram @thedadpodcast for updates and future episodes.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hey man, before we jump in, if this podcast has ever helped you think more clearly, respond more calmly, or feel less alone in the quiet parts of fatherhood, hit that follow button on Spotify or Apple. Leave a review if these conversations have resonated with you. If you're watching on YouTube, like, comment, and subscribe. We host a monthly dad walk here in London, Ontario, where fathers get together, walk, talk, and connect. No pressure, no speeches, just real conversations. This dad walk occurs on the third Saturday of every month at 11 a.m. at Kawanis Park. We meet at the Kawanis Skate Park. You can find it on Google. Watch our Instagram at the Dad Edit Podcast for updates on the next dad edit. Walk. All right, let's get into it. Still here. This is a fun one. 90s TV Dads, the sitcom fathers that raised a generation. Before we get into today's episode, um, I want to give a quick shout out. Uh, I believe it's a local business. It's a place called Egg Cloud. The Ryan picked up some breakfast. So we we each got actually Ryan tell tell me about the sandwiches. No, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:21

So uh just a little backstory. Uh, me and my daughter, we like to do this little YouTube thing. We uh rate different um mama pop places uh when it comes to chicken wings. We love our chicken out here. Ziza, you know what's up. And on our ventures, we saw this little spot. It's right on Richmond Street. Uh it's called Egglout. Uh just caught our attention. Went in there, chipped out the menu. It was a most definite one to come back and check out. So today I took the opportunity to get the boys all round up, got them breakfast. We went and got the OG sandwich. Oh my goodness. I'll let you guys check.

SPEAKER_00 2:02

A garlic toast, fluffy egg, like a maybe a garlicky onion y mayo. It was fucking delicious.

SPEAKER_01 2:10

It was the best thing I've ever eaten. I'm telling you, they they have the fucking hack. It's like they're grabbing clouds out of the fucking sky and putting them in sandwiches. It's it's fucking unreal.

SPEAKER_00 2:18

Bro, there's no sponsorship here. Um, we just wanted to recognize a local, I believe it's just a local business to London. Um, I don't even know, I know nothing about them. I'm gonna look into it after this episode. But egg cloud, big shout out. They're located at 691 Richmond Street in London, Ontario. Please go check them out. EggCloud, if y'all wanted to sponsor us with egg sandwiches on recording day, hey, we'd love it. Oh gosh. We don't got much pull, but those are fucking good, man. If you're in the London area, go check out eggcloud. I believe Ryan said he was there at 9 a.m. They opened at 9. We're we were recording at 9:30.

SPEAKER_01 2:59

Um, there was already a lineup, bro. Like, there was already a lineup.

SPEAKER_00 3:02

It was right across from Molly Bloom's, so it's it's right in the the downtown core area. Go check them out. Those were fucking fire. Fire. Back to this episode. Um, for a lot of us growing up, man, in the 90s, we watched a version of fatherhood every night on TV. Sitcom dads. Some were goofy, some were strict, some were wise. Um, but almost all of them showed us something important. They showed that fathers being present in their kids' lives matter. Shows like home improvement, fresh prince of Bel Air, Bully Meets World, Family Matters, Full House, all these didn't just entertain us, they quietly shaped how many of us see fatherhood today. Hell yeah. They showed us dads making mistakes, which was learning lessons, having heart-to-heart talks, trying to raise good kids. In this episode, we we're just gonna talk about sitcom dads, um, why they were so influential, what they taught a generation of boys about fatherhood, and whether there's anything like that shaking fathers today.

SPEAKER_01 4:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:13

In this first uh uh section here, you know, the fathers that we grow grew up watching. Um definitely the most influential dude. I'm I think I will die on this hill. Uncle Phil, brother.

SPEAKER_01 4:31

I I want to give an applause right there. Great fucking performance. Yeah, he had to be like the the spotlight for me. I still fucking care up when I see certain episodes. That episode with Will Smith and his dad. I don't need a dad, dog, like that hit home heavy, like you know, it was just um my sister, myself, or my mom. So I never had a father figure in the house, and like that just resonated. Touch was out the ballpark for me. And I still, like I said, tear up to this day. Oh, yeah. Um the Danny Tanners, the Phil's I'm saying, like, yeah, it was a big part of like TV was a big part of for me growing up. I think it was like something like how uh where gaming was a big part for some people, sitcoms was a big part for me, especially in in that era.

SPEAKER_00 5:21

Man, that like when Fresh Prince was running, those episodes, they they had they depicted uh uh not a perfect family, but a very uh relatable family. Yep. You could relate to the kids in the episodes, you could relate to the family life, you know. Um I'll always remember in in home improvement, I that's what made me always want siblings. Yes, because they'd have them. I didn't know what like picking the phone up to talk to your girlfriend, and then someone jumping on the phone going, Ooh, Brad, and Randy's like giving his older brother Brad a hard time. They chase him around and then they run outside, and then Tim's going, Oh, what what what the hell's going on? Yeah, you know, I I watched that and like would uh fantasize about what it was like having siblings. Yeah, because that wasn't my experience. My experience wasn't a father in the household, especially, you know, Tim was a manly man. You know, oh his grunting, he was the tool guy, he was fixing a car, cussing and swearing and hurting himself and jamming his knuckles and doing all those things while still trying to maintain a relationship with um Jill, I think was his wife's name, and maintain a friendship with his neighbor Wilson and Al, who he worked with, and still raise three uh uh strong boys. Yeah. Um these these shows were highly influential at that time.

SPEAKER_01 6:54

I love the what I really loved about it is it wasn't just like pixie dust and happiness. Like Fresh Prince used to touch on some real fucking topics, bro, uh, with what was going on at the time. You know, um, just with the full house, that was one of my favorite too. Just having that dynamic of the uncles being around to support to the community that was needed to raise these girls. Yeah, you know, and that was uh uh a big influence for myself. Like my daughters, I always promote their uncles and Uncle Matthew, Uncle Aja, Uncle Blue, Uncle Khalil, and and and and the dynamic that they had in my life that I tried to implement in my kids' life. Even though I wasn't uh like I'm born and raised in Montreal, I was raised around a lot of family. What I chose for my family, um, we did a lot of moving around, you know, uh paper chasing, trying to establish ourselves. And I felt that the lack of the community wasn't there. But I always used to really stress FaceTime, phone calls, visits are the uncles and the uncles are there to the same way daddy's here to protect you, it's the same way any of your uncles will ride or die for you. So even like that whole dynamic of community to raise a child was very important for me when I was watching these shows, and I wanted to implement that into my my my situation, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 8:18

It's interesting. I I feel like um full house really influenced the like like your Uncle Ryan, your Uncle Jeffy. Like you guys are that, will always be that to my kid. Whereas I feel like, you know, family matters, okay, that okay to you know, friends and family. Everyone is can be the uncle to you. Yeah, I believe Danny was a single dad, right? Yeah, and then he had the uncles living with him.

SPEAKER_01 8:43

Yeah, the the I think Jesse was like the brother-in-law, right? And I then I don't know how Joey fit in there. I think he was just a friend or something like that, but they still refer to him as Uncle Uncle, which my kids do. Like um um Uncle Vaughn, we're not blood related, but they know that Uncle Von's been there for a while and that that's what they call him. They could call him Vaughn, but the respect factor is there to to call him Uncle Vaughn, right? So yeah, I really, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:09

But I think I think those shows really influence that for people in our generation. Yeah. Um Jeff, because I know Ryan and I could go deep on all of them, because I know how much he was influenced by Sick Holmes. Was it big for you?

SPEAKER_02 9:22

Like the during that time is uh, man, it's a nostalgia thing too, just everybody sitting around one single screen instead of everybody having their own individual screen. Yeah. And you'd you'd watch this show and it'd be a new episode every week, and it would be a shared experience together, and you're all kind of watching these different families and how they work, and you're like, ah, and you point over to your sister or something, you're like, ah, like she did something silly, and you do silly exactly sometimes, and but you know, and then like I get in my favorite chair Thursday nights, you know, there's a new episode or whatever, and uh TV like that brought did bring people together, yeah. I mean, um, now all the screens are keeping people kind of siloed, but um it's it's it was really good. Um, but and not even just like the real life sitcoms, too, because like there were shows like Simpsons that were always all showing this you got wacky cartoon family that gets into all sorts of stuff, and the dad's a doofus, but there are moments where it's like all everybody's you know learning lessons and it showed that dynamic.

SPEAKER_00 10:39

Yeah, but it's interesting because I feel like the Simpsons still kept the spirit of like 90s sitcoms. Yeah, whereas once you got into like Family Guy and the American Dad, it got away from it's not about the like the story of the family and their experiences that day. It's all this other shit. I totally agree. And it has its place, it's its own niche, but the Simpsons is still very, very close to that sitcom sign. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:12

And it was just always on. And like in the day and age of streaming now, it's we've uh me and my partner and and mother-in-law as well. We we we use the Roku, and there's like uh I think it's Tubi or something like that. Or I don't I don't know if it's Tubi, but anyway, Pluto TV or whatever. Yeah, yeah. It's like it's like uh cable TV where you just whatever's on is on, and we've been watching like King of Queens just because it's like nostalgic, like Doug Heffering being a dumbass, getting into all sorts of trouble. Yeah, that kind of thing, but like they they had, you know, it was the couple with the the dad living in the house with them, and we kind of have a bit of a dynamic like that, and it's nice. It's like families look like every household looks a little bit different, but we all kind of have the same experiences. Like this guy's doing something silly, and then we all like give him shit about it, or like I don't know, man. It's going back to that, like whatever's on is on, like we have unlimited things to watch now. Different Netflix and Disney and Prime, it's like I don't even know what to pick, so we just go back to the same thing every time.

SPEAKER_01 12:27

As a father now, like I wonder what in your situation, because you had your mom and your dad was there, and you guys would carve out this time to sit down and watch this. Being a father now, I wonder what your dad because you you were saying, like, oh, she's being silly, and then you point to your your your your sister and be like, you do the same shit. Yeah. I wonder what his point of view of watching these shows, of what he learned from that. Oh, my son goes through that. Maybe he's processing for himself, oh, this is how he dealt with it. And maybe he even tried to implement it with you, you know, like things like that.

SPEAKER_02 13:01

Interesting.

SPEAKER_01 13:02

To have that there every week, implementing community and everything, you still learn shit from it. You still pick, you pick certain things on how you're gonna implement in in your household.

SPEAKER_02 13:15

Absolutely. There's this um book that I bought off of Amazon, it not a plug or anything, but it was like uh basically a questionnaire kind of journal sort of book where it's like you ask it, just ask your parent like different types of questions to get them to know them better and about their story and everything. And I gave it to my dad and he filled it in, and so he I got a bunch of like that kind of information. Yes, uh, but he don't it's a neat thing. Maybe we can put together something like that. That'd be so if anybody's interested in that type of thing, probably not, but whatever.

SPEAKER_00 13:49

Bringing it back to uh uh how influential these 90s dads were, these sitcoms. I feel like they were targeted at males. Like the the Tim Taylor, you know, main character, Uncle Phil was one of I guess not the main character, but pretty influential in that. Carl Winslow, Danny Tanner, Alan Matthews from Boy Meets World, Connor, uh Dan Connor from Roseanne, like a lot of these shows, and maybe it's just because I'm male, so I see that male influence more, but it seemed very targeted towards a lot of impactful moments with him. Most 90s sitcoms included meaningful father-son, father-daughter, father-child moments. Yeah, right? Yeah. Um, do you think this was on purpose?

SPEAKER_01 14:43

Do you 100%? I feel so. I think at that time there was a stigma. We all we all know it where the importance of having a father figure in the household was being tarnished.

SPEAKER_00 14:58

Definitely. Like, I think the what were the shows before that?

SPEAKER_02 15:01

Um was that one with the Alba?

SPEAKER_00 15:05

Yeah, that's what I was just thinking of, where he was kind of the oaf uh womanizer. You know, it was funny, but he still, I think he was a shoe salesman. He was always like looking down women's skirts, same that the big broads needed a bigger shoe, yada yada yada.

SPEAKER_01 15:22

So like uh uh Sansford and some like that dynamic was more like oh, you big dummy. Like it was more of an aggressive type of point of view uh of what a man was in the household or being uh a father figure, where in the 90s it kind of more like softened and kind of I want to be like shot out to the the ones that wanted to be there, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:43

Yeah, yeah, the shift, which I think was important, man. I uh you know, when it's interesting hearing Jeff describe how he saw sitcoms, you know, as his family's moment. To me, the sitcoms were very much like fantasy. Like I pictured myself in those households. Yeah, it wasn't just about like I got to watch these with my mom, it was what I didn't have. Yeah, I watched uh families with two parents, I watched families with siblings, I watched you know, kids get fatherly advice uh uh of situations that they were going through, or get advice of situations I was going through. Yeah, right. When when Tim talks to his kids about puberty and liking girls and this, that the other thing, I may have been watching it at a point where I've already experienced that, but I was like, oh damn, like those are the conversations that I missed.

SPEAKER_01 16:36

There was a yearning for that growing up, and yeah, it was just like automatic. I told myself, like, when I get that opportunity, I really want to be like Uncle Phil or Danny Tanner. Like it was, like you said, a like fantasy voice all right.

SPEAKER_02 16:54

And an o posited one, like not the role models that we were, it's the the positive, constructive, yes, loving kind of build-you up type of 100%.

SPEAKER_01 17:07

And that's what I wanted for myself. Like I wanted in the early stages uh back home when we decided to move out west, we come home and visit. Uh, we had a nickname, the Huxtables, when we came home. Everyone used to call us the Huxtables because we had that dynamic of like deep love, laughter. That's what we were trying to build. And I I admired that growing up, bro. Like seeing the siblings just get along in their way they did, but at the same time fucking duke it out in a loving way. It was so like I yearned for that shit.

SPEAKER_00 17:43

They did a great job, man. I think something that I mean, you don't see those sitcoms anymore. And the the like the structure of a 90s sitcom and the storytelling, yeah, and the classic, like, there's a lesson at the end of every episode. It just it was always so impactful. And whether or not the lesson was outwards and in front of you, like they sat down and was like, So, what happened today? What do you think? Yada yada yada. There's no giant PSSA. Uh uh they you saw it, you saw Tim lose his cool and yell at his son and then apologize to Muk for losing his cool and being like, I will ever want you to feel that way. You see, so I go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 18:26

No, no, no. You also saw the dynamic, the dynamic of the partner and the and and the husband, yeah. How they would approach situations, you know what I'm saying? And that dynamic right there just it showed me or it set me up for what I wanted with my wife dealing with our kids and shit like that, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:48

And it's uh the Good, go ahead, go ahead, Jeff. The blueprint uh is just not there anymore of those types of TV shows. It's all just all shifted to like attention grabbing YouTube or shorter formed videos, or I don't know how to explain.

SPEAKER_00 19:07

I think there there's a lot of like inclusion and don't pigeonhole people, like all those shows. No, not all. A lot of those shows, the wives were kind of stay at home, take care of the household, the fathers were the go and work, and I feel like we've kind of swung too far into a world where you can't create a family because someone's gonna be offended that, yeah, that family has you know, like me, the wanting that I had was that that had a mom and a dad, and then it had three brothers from home improvement, or that Uncle Phil took in a son like his own. I didn't I don't have that, so I don't relate to it. So rah-rah, I'm mad. Don't be so fucking offended, don't watch it then. But we've gotten to a point, I think, in society, where producers and directors can't uh uh uh emphasize a family.

SPEAKER_02 20:06

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The family unit has been attacked almost uh you need to tick all the boxes.

SPEAKER_00 20:15

Every family then needs a persons with disability and a per oh, we adopted someone of color, and then there's also a someone that's queer or bisexual, or like you have so many boxes that you now have to tick to be like, okay, this is a show that targets everyone. You can't just have a black household family that doesn't take in a white child, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 20:41

The bomb sees at homes and takes air or everything, and dad's out there being a provider.

SPEAKER_00 20:45

I I so you can't I feel like you can't depict that anymore. Yeah. Um, or if you do, it has to be drama or edgy or yeah, you know what I mean? Like you don't just get to have a true family at home experiencing shit. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_02 21:03

And I don't have the answers, but and before streaming, and everybody had their own screens and look the unlimited choice of what to be able to watch, like whatever was on at 5 30 was on. That's what you got to watch. We had one TV and we had 13 channels, and choose your third one of 13 shows that you want to watch, and half of them are news.

SPEAKER_00 21:25

So like Bro, you remember getting the TV guide all the way through and seeing what time your show was on, and you would circle the blocks that you wanted.

SPEAKER_01 21:33

Oh bro, and then uh go a few years ahead when they used to have like that P VR where you could record, yeah, yeah, see the guide, see what time it comes on, recorded and shit like that.

SPEAKER_00 21:42

Yeah, what a time. Man, I bet most people listening to this podcast right now don't know what TV guide is. You got a you got a printed out booklet in the mail that outlined all the shows that we're gonna be on, yeah. Over the next month or two-week period or something like that. I remember like sure, oh man. Robocop's gonna be on at 7 p.m. on May 24th. Mom, I want to make sure that we watch it. And then the TV guide always sat next to the the couch or whatever. Yeah. Craziness. What about that?

SPEAKER_02 22:17

Survivor on Thursday nights, and then uh our aunt come over. Yeah, but she was kind of like a second cousin of one my mom or something. Anyway, but she was an aunt and watch on the the like all huddle in the living room and watch it survive because that was a brand new episode. What what kind of challenges are they gonna make up maybe this time?

SPEAKER_01 22:39

It's at 50 seasons now. Jeez, it's kind of like it gave you the opportunity to carve out family fucking time. Yep. You know, let's let's block out everything, the noises, and this is our time and enjoy it, right?

SPEAKER_00 22:51

Which what an interesting concept, like to to block that time out, and then to most of the time like have family time watching a family, yeah. And like, who knows? I don't know if dad got the same, like, yeah, he's going through the same struggles as me. And mom was like, Yeah, her husband's an idiot, just like mine. And it doesn't fucking listen to me. Yeah, it was for everyone at different levels, you know. Yeah, man. And yeah, all those shows. I I find those shows highly impactful. Actually, as we're talking through this episode, I'm trying to think of like, okay, what ones do I want to? I want to go back and watch like home improvement now and maybe watch some fresh prints again and see those originals, yeah. Because they were so good.

SPEAKER_02 23:32

That's what we've been doing. We've uh been going back and watching things from the 90s, the time travel, it's just especially movies, but uh shows to like it's just less choice is sometimes better, like out of things to watch, like pen streaming services, unlimited shit to watch. It's like I just kind of want slower-paced shows, simpler, solid message behind it. Yeah, exactly. Um, and and I would I think the art of crafting a story back then was a lot better than it is now. Now it's just pump, oh, we gotta pump out a full season in about a month. We get we don't have time to write a convention.

SPEAKER_01 24:15

You gotta be able to grasp these motherfuckers to binge watch the shit.

SPEAKER_00 24:18

Yeah, yeah. And everything like you, I think Netflix ruined that for us because you got full Netflix series out. So you could just sit there and like watch four seasons of 20 episodes in a weekend.

SPEAKER_01 24:31

I've adjusted my TV watching to that, but I will not watch a show on Netflix unless the full season's out or anything. Yeah, yeah, I need to binge watch it. I don't got time. Like, it's like less time now. I had more time back then. I think because we were younger too, and uh, our point of view in life was different, but we had more time to embrace things now. Now it's like fuck, I gotta work or whatever, whatever. I gotta go to the gym. You know, I'm gonna take a Saturday night binge watch this shit. I'm good.

SPEAKER_02 24:56

Time was slower, but I think maybe just all the distraction, everything's like watching TV last night, like every fucking 10 minutes, there was like a five-minute commercial on the streaming platform that we pay for. Full circle. Do you get that?

SPEAKER_01 25:11

This is what happened to us. So we did full circle. We went from having commercials to having no ads, no commercials, and nothing now to back to commercials. I don't give a fuck if you want to call it ads and how commercial, bro.

SPEAKER_02 25:23

We have 13 street services that we have to subscribe to instead of one.

SPEAKER_01 25:27

Bro, and you can't even skip those ads now. It's like a full three-minute ad. I'm like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_02 25:32

Not to mention those ads. Okay, so I'm on my phone at work, and I was looking up on Amazon, like, say a paddle bore, and then on the TV later that night, it's like, hey, on not even on my TV, on my partner's TV. And it's like, hey, I know that your your fiance was looking at paddle earlier. So here's a picture, here's a ad for a paddle blower. Also, fuck you.

SPEAKER_01 25:58

The lip corner right there, you could tap on it and purchase it right away or throw it into your cart. What the fuck are you guys doing now? Like, what?

SPEAKER_00 26:05

Sorry, sorry, rat didn't know. I'm on board, man. It's it's it's modern media. The modern media environment is completely different, yeah. Right. There's there's this big shift from sitcom culture uh to the streaming short form clippable content, right? Fuck even when we're doing um uh social media, like we want our podcast to have clippable moments. We don't I don't uh produce or or we don't do the show notes in a way so that we guarantee clippable moments, we just hope the conversation happens and this is something that we feel like we could relevantly put into a clip. But I think a lot of things just center around short form content. Our attention span's too short, yeah. Yeah, I sit there and I flip through for four hours nonsense on my phone, and I got nothing from that, no return, shit.

SPEAKER_02 26:59

That's why uh Saturday morning, but like I'll come and I'll I'll get the TV first and I'll put on like recess from the 90s. Hell yeah, bro. It's slower, it's still an engaging enough story. The characters all have their personality. Kids are about you know in that age range, they're still in the elementary, so it's like a slower start to the warning instead of waking up putting on YouTube shorts and getting blasted by 700 short videos, like, oh my god, my brain's sick from all that stuff, and like and that's why I like was for a little while there, I was trying to start that like analog channel.

SPEAKER_01 27:38

I just want to bring that up, Jeff, because I'm about to say that nostalgic right there, it just slows down. It's I feel like there's something needed for like the 80s. What is that? 90s, baby. His analog Jeff. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're all slow down, just hearing that video game come on, or that when you pop in the the tape into the video cassette, it's just like so you should slow that broke gearing up.

SPEAKER_00 27:59

We're getting into our side hustles here, but you should do one that's like just the start of the first like 10-15 seconds of sit ops. Those but in uh I don't know how we could, but I just I'll go out and buy box sets for you.

SPEAKER_02 28:15

I just picked up off Facebook. Some guy was giving away this whole collection. So I went, drove out an hour, and picked it up. I got like all the seasons of friends and I got some OC. I know everybody's watched the OC. If you have a girlfriend, you watch like if there's a girl in your life.

SPEAKER_00 28:32

I got some ideas for you, right?

SPEAKER_02 28:34

Like all sorts of stuff like that. And those older uh physical media, if it's on physical media, it's probably what we're looking at.

SPEAKER_01 28:43

Come on, dog. It's it's therapeutic, bro. Streamable. Uh so uh track. I love it when you pop on those N64s and uh I'll have to start doing that with a nice bro. I know it's a lot with the content, but you're saving lives, buddy. This is my idea. Sega.

SPEAKER_02 29:02

Yeah, yeah. Let's go buy a Sega today.

SPEAKER_00 29:07

For those of you that don't know what we're talking about, uh I think it's analog Jeff. Yeah. Just analog Jeff. Is it analog Jeff 1?

SPEAKER_02 29:14

Maybe I don't know. I think it's analog Jeff 1. You can go to the dad edit followers, and then it's I'm following the dad editing.

SPEAKER_00 29:22

That's what's up. Yeah, man. We're gonna make something happen. Yeah, yeah. It's good, it's fun. It's analog underscore Jeff 1. And he just posts like this is uh Pokemon Snap, uh uh NBA courtside, Donkey Kong, Star Wars, NHL 99, like just kind of the the beginning, E.T. blades of steel eating blades of steel.

SPEAKER_02 29:48

The thing I like about the NBA one is I was playing, I was Kobe. I sank the basket and then the video ends. It was beautiful. It's like wave. There's like Hoetic Omaha Lover A because I like it.

SPEAKER_00 30:02

So love it, man. I think uh it's a nice, like relaxing, nostalgic channel that Jeff's working on. Man, go go go check it out. It's it's cool stuff.

SPEAKER_02 30:11

Anyway, yeah, back to it.

SPEAKER_00 30:13

Back to the episode. Do you guys I don't know. Um, I haven't seen much sitcoms. I'm probably gonna sneeze in a second, sorry. But are there any modern TV fathers or movie fathers that have the same influence? Can you guys think of any?

SPEAKER_01 30:28

Why do I think of John Wick right now and Sean Wicker?

SPEAKER_02 30:32

I'm sure it's like, oh lee, I can't think of nothing that's pure like that in like uh dog dad for sure. Remember that Phil Dunfey, like okay, okay. Bit of Abagoo, he's got a good heart, but you know that that's hard. That's still like 10-15 years.

SPEAKER_00 30:50

What is um Life in Pieces? You've ever seen that? I don't watch that. It is a fire shit. It's a bunch of different fam or for families, they're all under the same family, but like pop pop is the grandpa, though. He's fucking great, alcoholic grandfather. He's hilarious. Watch Life in Pieces if you're listening to this. Watch Life in Pieces. I think it's a Netflix series. Okay, Nick got me on it. It's hilarious. Not as like nuclear family type of sitcom, like it's not just focused on the one. Yeah, it's you know, I think it's a bunch of brothers, and it's their individual families, and that how they come back together under grandpa and it's it's hilarious. Check that out. But I can't think of any like influential TV does. I don't think that's the focus of society right now, bro. And maybe society swung away from they don't want males as the main influence right now.

SPEAKER_02 31:43

There's a cartoon that the the kids watch. I actually think the cartoon's awesome. It's loudhouse, there's like 10 sisters and one brother, mom and dad, and they get into all this shenanigans. Like every sister has a different personality, or it's kind of like this the the son or the brother surviving in the house of girls. Yeah, plus dad. Dad's also he's a bit of a Magoo, but uh, and then like the son's best friend. Uh, he has two dads, kind of thing. It's a very inclusive kind of and everybody and like one of the sisters is has a a girlfriend, and it's it shows like every possible scenario of everything, and that's the only family dynamic of any of the shows that I can think of.

SPEAKER_01 32:34

And it's relating to society now, right? Like yeah, we're core open to these things, so it's it's like you said, it's current, right?

SPEAKER_02 32:39

Yeah, yeah. And it's great because like you've got every possible 10 10 different people, and then all of their relationships and friendships. This is Cartoon, yeah. It's cartoon's cool. Uh, but that's the only family dynamic I can think of in.

SPEAKER_00 32:55

We've really gotten away from it, man. Like, I think about how influential 90s sitcoms was for me. And like, what role models do boys have today?

SPEAKER_02 33:06

Well, I'll tell you, it's it's YouTubers, it's too it's YouTubers. Like, if your son is interested in video gaming, uh, there's a YouTuber. So, whatever video game he likes, maybe it's Minecraft, then there's a whole genre of Minecraft YouTubers, and they're usually just like teens to to young adults that are doing the streaming, and that's what they watch.

SPEAKER_01 33:29

I think that is geared to any like relevant message.

SPEAKER_02 33:33

There's no message, it's just silly, silly, uh, this is more around the game, it is and I get it.

SPEAKER_00 33:40

That's that's cool, but like, where's the substance? Is not I think that's why the previous conversation that we had around the manosphere thing is when kids are looking to influencers, entertainers to pull how we're supposed to act. Sure, you're you're watching influencer A, and he's a Minecraft player and he does that shit, and he he makes cool things. Now you're on that train of okay, I find him for Minecraft, that's cool, but how do I find someone for being a band? And then you go down to this road of you know, the red pill male, or like the I'm an alpha bitches, get money, you need cars, drive private jets, fight people, stop being a bitch. Yeah, like that's where you know that previous conversation becomes a value is once they're on the road of like YouTubers is their influence, it's easier for them to step into that world.

SPEAKER_02 34:40

And there was a uh series that the kids had on for a second, like not a series, I don't know, a video. I don't know. It was this guy exposing an influencer who is like a child bodybuilder who was apparently taking steroids and he was apparently 14. But did an interview with that guy that was hosting the show of exposing, he got a confession out of the kit that he was actually like 18 years old. He's just a little right, just very short guy, and they were discussing about steroids and stuff. And the kids are smart enough to realize like this is there is smoke and mirrors going on on this, but there are some people that might fall for it, like for sure, but what you see is not always what you said. Realistic, yeah, man. Yeah, it's so it's it it is concerning. I do limit that type of shit because there's a gap in the market.

SPEAKER_00 35:39

I'll just say right now, there's an opportunity for some quality 90s dad style TV. Long message. Someone someone hit us up. I think I think we got some ideas here. I think we got some ideas. Yeah, yeah. Andy's looking into getting some acting and no, no, I'll produce and I'll direct, but we'll we'll find someone that can be a good actor. I want I want nothing to be on screen. Um, I think a uh a closing refraction reflection here. A lot of us didn't realize it at the time, but those sitcom dads were teaching us something very important. Yeah, they showed fathers making mistakes, they showed fathers learning, fathers trying again. They showed up, uh or they showed that being a dad didn't mean being perfect. Yeah, it meant being present, it meant caring, caring enough to have the hard conversations. And maybe the real lessons from those 90s dads is this fatherhood isn't about having all the answers, it's about showing up for your kids, episode after episode. Guys, if this episode has brought back some memories, share it with another dad who grew up watching those shows. Come find us on our Instagram at the dad edit podcast. Watch for the next dad walk announcement. It is every third Saturday at 11 a.m. at Kawanis Park. We meet at the Kawanis Skate Park. Boys, we is all we got. Thank you.