She Shines with Karen "Coach KG" Gilliam

Pride, Purpose, and the Power of Becoming

Karen "Coach KG" Gilliam Season 1 Episode 31

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Angel Jenkins is a woman of pride, purpose, and unwavering self-knowledge. As she prepares to step into the second half of her life at 50, Angel reframes aging as growth—not loss. Raised by a mature, self-preserving woman and deeply inspired by her 93-year-old grandmother, Angel learned early that life is about core values, not surface conversations.

In this episode, Angel shares defining moments that shaped her journey—including motherhood, quitting smoking cold turkey, navigating relationships without compromising her identity, and embracing the confidence she was born with (her third-grade teacher called her “Little Oprah,” and it shows!).

Angel’s message to women is rooted in hope, faith, and self-preservation. This conversation is a reminder that owning your shine means honoring where you come from, standing firm in who you are, and trusting God with where you’re going.

✨ This episode will inspire women to rise boldly, live intentionally, and shine unapologetically.

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SPEAKER_04

Welcome back to She Shines, the podcast where women rise, reclaim their voice, and radiate in their truth. I am your host, Karen, Coach KG Gilliam. I am a transformational coach, a published author, and a woman who loves to see other women owning their shine. And today, oh, today's episode is about owning your shine at every age, in every season, and without apology. My guest is a woman who embodies pride, purpose, and self-preservation in the most powerful way.

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So I would love to introduce to you Angel Jenkins.

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Hi, Angel. Hello, Miss Coach K. I'm so excited to be a part of this.

SPEAKER_04

Well, I am so excited to have you here. And I want everyone to know who you are. So I want to just say this to the audience. Angel Jenkins, because I want them to see you. If you have to see the YouTube video to see it, otherwise you're listening. But if you're watching the YouTube video, Angel Jenkins is stepping into the second half of her life, turning 50. And instead of fearing aging, she celebrates it as growth. So this conversation that we're having today is rich. But if you're watching on YouTube, she doesn't look like she's turning 50 at all. Angel, welcome to She Shines.

SPEAKER_03

Thank you, thank you, thank you. And thank you for the compliment, too, because before you hit 50, you don't know what 50 looks like.

SPEAKER_04

That is so true. That is so true.

SPEAKER_03

It has um a lot to do with how you wear it, right?

SPEAKER_04

Oh yeah. And how did it wear on you? That's right. That's and see, that's the problem. Women wear it and then they look like it. And so and and I, you know, I'm 68, I'll be 69 in July, and I don't even feel like it. Yes, I am blessed. I'm truly blessed. Absolutely. Angel, when I think of you, I think of a proud woman, grounded, intentional, and clear about who she is. Now, how would you describe yourself in this?

SPEAKER_03

I was gonna say you could stop it right there. There's a push. You could push the stop button. I um I guess we have the same eyes, right? Because I see myself the same as um as you depict it in even in introduction when you said this is going to be a rich interview. I said, Oh yeah, right. Lines up, everything kind of lines up with um where where you're from and where you're coming from. And um, as I mentioned to you before, being from Richmond, California, it's sort of a catch-22, because there's a lot of pride involved, right? And um, and there's there is a lot of purpose, but in addition to that, there's a lot of promise. Um, and you get to kind of you get to kind of foresee a future that otherwise may have not been afforded to you when you come from spaces like that. And um, and I think that is kind of what solidifies your character moving forward in life. So, yes, it is a very rich, I feel both of my hands are full kind of at all times, right? As soon as you drop one thing or distribute weight some kind of way, somehow God just continues to replenish your purpose.

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Yes.

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And um, and I I am enjoying it. I am really enjoying it.

SPEAKER_04

Now, just for our audience, Angel, tell them how Richmond, California is. Because maybe they don't know.

SPEAKER_03

So, how it is, how it was. Yeah, how it was, how it could be. Yeah, it is definitely um a region that is about the people, um, very historic um in in just its establishing, right? Um my family was uh one of the first families to come to Richmond and um pursue homeownership and um things that were available in the north that weren't available in the south back in the like back in the day, right? So like the 1930s uh probably. And so most of the people who are there are lifers. Um my grandmother is 93 and um and bought her home there many moons ago and raised her children and still have um access to them because everybody is still right there. Um, a lot of people I went to school with raising their kids there, and then their kids, you know, have grown and got established there, went to school there, right there, locally in the Bay Area. Um, the Bay Area is just a it's a rich environment to be in, and um because it's so fulfilling, you kind of compare it to everything and everything else you do when you go places. And one thing about Richmond uh that we've always been able to say is if you can make it here, you can make it anywhere, right? Wow. And yeah, and so that's what it looks like. You you carry it with you. Um it's more than just um a city or a town. Um, it's it's an experience, and you're able to like really carry that with you with a lot of dignity, right? Moving forward in your life because um it takes a lot of tools to navigate. Um, I will say that. And um, and if you can get through it, you you gotta you got a lot to be proud of.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. I I definitely see that. And you you're mentioning your roots and the inspiration you had growing up, and you told me in our chat together about your grandmother. And who is 93, bless her heart. Tell tell us what she meant to you.

SPEAKER_03

What she what she has meant to me throughout my life um is uh is stability, right? So when I reference that promise um and what the future, you know, of me as a woman and a black woman can look like, um, it looks so good, right? Like it looks, it looks well. And um, I don't know, I think um in your formative years, you know, like teenage years, um, we're going through adolescence and puberty and getting introduced to freedom, right? The curve curfew extended, and um, and she was a part of shaping all of that for me in just her being available, right, for all of those things. And then when I became a young mother and giving me all these old tools and and remedies and suggestions, you know, it was almost like she told me what to do without telling me what to do, right? So encouraging me to follow my first mind and and nurturing like my instincts as a mother. Um it just just everything about it uh was something that you could like sustain yourself with like for life, right? Teaching me how to cook a whole chicken over the phone.

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Oh my goodness.

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You know, let me grade cheese and crack walnuts, you know, for for baking. And of course, you know, her home being the center of um our holiday events and you know, and just getting to be there and have that time and still being able to have time with her now, um, although we're long distance, it's just like you couldn't ask for nothing else. You you can't ask for more than than what she's already given. It's it's like a word, you know, it's like a word you can you can live off of.

SPEAKER_04

You know, we talked about aging and that is growth to you, and how I said you you don't look like you're turning 50. But you said something to me in our conversation about your grandmother, even though she's 93. Uh she you said that she's the 65-year-old granny when when you talk. What do you mean by that?

SPEAKER_03

Well, that's when I kind of first realized that she was like an older woman. Mm-hmm. She was about that age. Um, meaning that um I respected that that difference in the age, right? Okay. Because you know your mom's in the middle of that.

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Right.

SPEAKER_03

And um, I think that's when I probably recognize that my grandma was my mom's boss. So it kind of it kind of put her on more of a pedestal than ever before, right? Because you think your your mom is the all in all, right? Your parents are the all in all. And then you realize that no your grandparents are they're the ones, right? Yes. Um, and so I kind of leaned into her with all of me, and there was no more separation um as far as like the energy goes, because there were some things, you know, that you felt like you could communicate with your mom about, and then there's things you feel like that your grandma would know better. So when I realized, hey, she actually taught my mom everything that she knows, yeah. So that means that she knows what my mom knows and beyond, right? And so I wanted to get acquainted with that beyond. I wanted to um for you. I wanted to like embrace um, you know, just just the wisdom. Like I wanted to learn, I wanted to know, I wanted to understand. Um I wanted to model what was being put in front of me early on. It was like I didn't want to wait because I felt like if it was being shared with me now, then it could be of some benefit now, right? So I was able to hold on to a lot of the things that she said. Um, I never took it for granted. I like it stuck with me, even if they were minimal things, you know.

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Yeah.

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Um, like preserving water for your water bill.

SPEAKER_04

Wow.

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And making sure you lock the door behind yourself and not setting your purse down anywhere. And you know, there were so many things. Um, but I realized that they were not just because you know, it depends on when you when you hear it, if it's a survival tactic that they're giving you or strategy, right, or um if it's just something um that you you should know to to apply and remember, like don't forget it. So there's a lot of things that are because she was so repetitive in her explanations. Yes, yeah, and her stance, she she didn't switch up, you know, she stuck to the script, which is why I do. Um, it made you understand the importance of of the information she was conveying. And there, you know, of course, you get a a greater reverence and respect for people that way too.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Wow. What's you you what you've just shared is depth, uh wisdom, core values, no surface level conversations with your grandmother. Um she she she went down deep. And I remember when we were talking about it, and that wisdom she has passed down to you, and that's why you move the way you do, Angel. Um you are blessed because I didn't know my grandmothers. And my friends, um, that they had grandmothers, either they had one or they had both. And I always felt that there was a void in my life. And I had adoptive grandmothers. I mean, some of my friends' grandmothers said, Well, you could call me granny, or but I didn't have my own because they passed away before I knew them. So, what that taught me was um as a grandmother now and a great-grandmother. Um, I want to make sure that they know me, not know of me. Yeah. So I'm a part of their lives. Um, I create memories. Um, what I share in coaching with my clients, I share with my my grandchildren. Um and it's starting to come back because they're at the age now, because I've got uh grandkids from two up to 22, 12 of them, and all in between. And um they'll say things that I have said to them when they were younger.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

So that's that's when you know they got it. So yeah, I have I'm passing that legacy down to them as well. Now, another thing about your life, Angel, and it was a defining moment, was when you told me you you discovered you were pregnant. You were with your first child. Talk talk to us about that moment and how it confirmed something you already knew about yourself. I think I just blinked like four times when you said that.

SPEAKER_03

Why? Because going back to that time, it was um it was like a revelation, right? Um I was the the kind of young girl who dreamed of getting married, right? My senior plan was my wedding. Oh my god, oh yeah. So high school sweethearts, um my two children, father and I, and um there was no one else in the world, right? So to find out that you have um not just a forever piece of a person that you care about, but that your role and responsibility in that would be to provide love for people that you already love. So I was like, ooh and ah, right? Um and no knew that I was more than capable. Um I think I was ready for the job.

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Yeah.

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I knew I knew it was a job, right? Because I had babysat everybody before then. You know, I was a little old lady and um and had cared for a home, you know, supporting my mom when she uh became a single parent. And um when I found out that I was gonna be a mom, it was like I was checking something off of my list, right? Yeah. Um and so it was good. Um I was that model patient, you know, didn't miss any doctor's appointments, got, you know, I got rewarded for it. I was getting all kinds of gift certificates and stuff. Mind you, this is the 90s. Yeah. Um, and I feel like I was celebrated during that time. Um, and then of course, watching my body change and like feeling her, you know, inside my tummy, and I was read to my stomach, and I was looking forward to breastfeeding, and just, and I don't even recall how I knew so much, but I will say that I got pregnant my first year of college and I was going to school for early childhood education. Um and um, like I said, it was like all these things that I had wanted for myself in the future that came true when when I found out that I was expecting. Um, and so I didn't have to change a lot, but it was almost like my maternal instinct kicked into overdrive. So I was no longer just protecting a children, I was protecting my child. Um and you know, you get like a you get put on another coat of armor when you do that. Um your life becomes just that much more important when you when you know when you're responsible for someone else's.

SPEAKER_06

Like what you know what ages are your children?

SPEAKER_03

Oh Lord. Okay, so they're gonna be they'll be 26 and 28 this May. Their birthdays are May 23rd and May 24th. Um so they're Geminis and they're two peas in the pod. They were besties, you know, all while they were growing up. And um they probably would beg to differ, but I would say that I treated them the same. And when I say treated them the same, meaning they were afforded all the same little luxuries, you know. Um, but of course, with one being male and one being female and me growing up, you know, um making sure I made a point to um cater to them as such. You know, like my daughter used to say, I let my son get away with everything. But I think it was because she was older than him. Yeah. And so of course she's comparing. And I'm like, hey, I know a little bit better with him than I did with you. So of course, my reaction's gonna be a little bit different, right? Right. Um, right, and so yeah. But I um I'm looking forward to um when I become a grandma, you know, with them. Um my daughter's a certified birth doula, um, and she loves children and babies. Um, she's a preschool teacher as well, and my son also works with youth and um was a coach at the YMCA for many years um before COVID, shut everything down. Um and so they have very nurturing spirits. They love the Lord, um, and they love each other. So that's like those are like my big ones, right?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Now tell our audience what is it that you do professionally? Parent.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, what was that? I'm a practitioner, I'm a parent. So yes. What a my role in my my appointment role is I'm a kitchen manager. So I manage a commissary kitchen. Um, I work for an organization that's contracted by the city of Vancouver um to manage this commissary kitchen. And the commissary kitchen um it was created with an effort to um kind of bridge the get the gap for um bridge the wealth gap, I should say, and um and as a solution um to support like economic empowerment um and help I don't like to say small business, but businesses um that are looking to become established um or operate uh formally. Um I just create lanes uh through this resource for them to do just that. Um so there's folks that come in um from like various avenues of the food industry. Um, some are caterers. Some are farmers market vendors. We have people who have uh Washington State Department of Agriculture processors licenses. So they're actually selling their products in stores. We have meal prep companies or businesses. And then, of course, there's food access programs that we run out of the kitchen, which my business supports as well. So we do um houseless resource fairs and provide food for stay-safe communities, which are the tiny homes that are managed by the city here. Um and um and we just I just like to see people happy and um having a good relationship with food, whether that's them growing their business and supporting their clients and customers or um creating food access, you know, for community. Um I'm a former lunch lady, work for the school district here in two different departments, transportation and nutrition services, while my children were growing up. So um a very present parent, if that makes sense, that was um totally obsessed and concerned with the with the quality of service that my kids were receiving in community because you know we're a part of that. Um and so it just kind of led me into a space where I was able to start my own business um and focus on the things that were important to me as it related to that. And and I was able to use all my wonderful domestic gifts, talents, and abilities to secure a future for myself and for my children. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, so I'm I'm always excited to participate.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_04

Um now they've got a glimpse of who Angel is, but I want to talk about the challenges and that you've had, and and you've set some non-negotiables. Um you've you were honest with me about the challenges that you had in your in relationships, particularly with men, because of your pride and your confidence. So why was that never something that you were willing to shrink?

SPEAKER_03

Well, because I wasn't taught to. And contrary right to my stance, it was more so um, like you mentioned in the beginning, about self-preservation um and making sure that I prioritize that because of the greater calling that I had as a mother and just as a woman, even before becoming a parent. Um, I owed it to myself, right, to um have some boundaries in place so that I could protect myself for the long haul. Um I'm just I'm I'm really grateful for the examples that I had um growing up because uh it helped me to not be a follower. So I was always like a leader in my friend group. Um, and I didn't fall victim to a lot of peer pressure. But when it did come to relationships with men and you're gauging what is my responsibility or what is my position in this relationship, you know, and having um, you know, a mom who didn't drive, you know, my dad went to work, my mom stayed home. So there was a level of dominance that was kind of asserted there, but it went unspoken. And so when I got into the space of relationships, I'm like, how much do I say? What can I do? Right? Like, um, and I think what I did was uh followed my heart and kind of did what I felt like was best for me. So I didn't really model what my mom did per se. Um, but I kind of held to that still in my stance. So it was like, you're gonna go, I'm gonna say something back, but I won't yell it. Right. Right, right. Even if I feel like it's, you know, I need to holler. Maybe I'll hold back a little bit uh and just make sure I communicate that. Um but one thing that my mom always taught me was that if a man doesn't listen to you, there's someone he will listen to. That's the and that's not the whole one. So yeah, absolutely. Um, so that's when I knew that you don't fight men, right? And so I didn't take that stance. I just um I I more so kind of fought for myself before I would be combative. And um, and it kind of made me look like I didn't care.

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You know, guys like, oh, you ain't gonna even call, you ain't gonna even say nothing, or you ain't gonna even no, nah.

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I don't want to look like a fool. For the women listening, hear this, please. What Angel is exuding right now is confidence. It is not arrogance, and pride in who you are is not a flaw. So never let someone dictate to you how you should be. Because they don't have your best interests at heart. They're trying to make it, just like I say in coaching, they're trying to curate you to be what they want you to be. And most people operate out of that avatar.

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Absolutely. Absolutely.

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Out of that avatar.

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Don't we all, right? What I just described is basically reminding someone, hey, I'm in it for the benefits. Now, that doesn't mean that people won't try you. That don't mean that you won't have to go through what it takes to establish those boundaries because it's always gonna be a fight to be who you are. Um, but you cannot, you can't you you can't stop fighting. Like you absolutely should always fight for your yes.

SPEAKER_04

You you have to know. You have to know who you are. And Angel, what I do in in coaching is people ask, but what's a transformational coach? I help you transform to your authentic self. And um, I'm gonna, I think we had a little bit of trouble. Angel went away, I'm sure she'll come back, but um, yes, never let anyone dim your light. You you have a light for reason, and so I want you to remember that. So being authentically yourself is not cocky, it is confident, and you know, pride, arrogance, you know what that is, and that's not who who you are, but when you are confident, um when you are confident in yourself, you don't allow anyone to dim your life. All right, angel, I'm not sure I don't see you and she's gonna come back, and we're gonna talk a little bit more about Angel's owning her shine and let her uh share that with you. Angel, do you have your camera on okay? I know she's gonna pop in here any second now, and while we're waiting for her, um so let's let's say you're someone, you're a woman listening to this, and you're hearing some some things that you want to possess. Now, first of all, I'm gonna tell you, you already do, and you just need to discover, first of all, who you are when it comes to essence excellence. And essence is another word for spirit, you are a spirit individual in a physical body. Once you discover what who you are, as far as your spirit, we move into the transformation by you discovering what your superpowers are. So what you're naturally great at. And um I use a resource called Strength Finder that um helps us by you answering some questions in the assessment, helps you to discover what superpowers you have. And then we then go on this journey no less than third than ninety days, because nothing truly changes until ninety days of consistency. And we go on this journey of how to apply your superpowers to your natural life and in what you do, who you are, and it can be a struggle. When I discovered what my strengths were, I still had that battle between my essence and my um avatar. I had that struggle, and every once in a while it just pops up.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, Angel is telling me that she's lost the connection.

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And I know she'll be coming back in um because I want you to hear from her uh what she shared about her upbringing and the self-esteem that she has and the professional profile, she has motherhood and self-preservation. Um, and she really didn't stumble into this, she was raised into it. She was blessed to have uh a mother and a grandmother who taught her well. Um, and so she didn't have to struggle with her identity, she owned her shine, and I I hope that we can have her come back and share that with you. Um, and then following that, I would like for Angel to share her message to you listening of what she shines is. And I know she hasn't. And then, of course, we have to do her rapid fire round. And um one of the things that she told me in our uh talk was uh her third grade teacher, I believe, was the one that called her little Oprah. So that is going to be her fire, her rapid fire round, little Oprah energy.

SPEAKER_06

So um uh again, I'm not seeing back. She's back.

SPEAKER_04

I told you she'd be back. I told you, didn't I tell you? So we will work on that, Angel. Don't don't worry about it. But what I was sharing with them is that I wanted you to uh talk to them about owning your shine. And what what does that mean to you and as a message to our listeners?

SPEAKER_03

Owning your shine. So we were my colleagues and I were um kind of gifted a challenge to read a book called Crucial Conversations, and I believe it's the second edition of the book, and there was a section um or a chapter where they talked about owning your game. So um there was a process in which a group would meet and everyone would speak to um each other's behaviors and uh and basically the approach and how it came across to others, right? So if they felt like someone was rude or um was the type to belittle another person, right? So they were pretty much called out on it. Um and as a result, you would have to sit with that, right? You weren't allowed to defend yourself or become offended, you just had to sit with it.

SPEAKER_04

Thank you so much for your patience. Um Angel is having a little bit of technical difficulty, and so um, and of course it's right when she is about to share with you uh the message that she wants you to hear. And um, I'm gonna see if she's able to to come to come back and then okay, yeah, she's back.

SPEAKER_06

I'm not sure at the point where I got cut off boo. I want to follow up. Um can you hear me? Yes, I can hear you just fine. Yes. Okay, all right.

SPEAKER_04

So um I was telling our audience that um we were getting, of course, getting right to that part where I wanted you to share um the message that you wanted to leave our listening audience, but we're not going anywhere yet because you have to do your little Oprah energy fire ram. So, and so you can tell them how you got the the nickname of Little Oprah. So, what is the message that for the women listening to She Shines today that you want to convey to them?

SPEAKER_03

Um I believe um that every part or piece of you that makes up the whole individual is equally as important. Um I don't believe that um any of us are operating out of time um or purpose, right? Because you serve in different capacities based on where you are in your journey. Um and so um what I was sharing about owning your shine um was the fact that you shine at every stage, even your mistakes. Um, like they said, a couple of steps back is still part of the dance, right? Right. Um so being able to just kind of pat yourself on the back through challenges um and encourage yourself to keep going is really what it looks like to be resilient. I think um that's what it looks like to be successful because you get to gauge your own rate of success based on your own experience, not in comparison to, and um, like I was saying with my grandmother and my mother, like I'm I only had the one grandmother. My my father's mother passed before I was born, and his father before I was born, and they passed tragically, right? Um, so being able to have um all of what I needed in one person showed me that um like the possibility of your influence is endless. Like there's so much you can do with so much you can do with what some people consider a little, right? But if you look at it as a lot, then then you can do a lot with it. And that's what it looks like for me to be able to share with someone. Um, and I think I've made mention to this a couple of times when I've been asked questions like this only because it was imparted to me by one of my professors when I was in college, and that was um, she complimented me on planting seeds in my children as I gathered them, um, and not to be dismayed that I didn't have all of what I felt like should be a part of my harvest, that it was actually coming because I have planted those seeds as I was gathering them along the way so that I would see it eventually, you know. Right. And it gave me some hope. It gave me hope. And I think that that is very important to possess throughout your life is hope because it helps to push you forward. And um, but it also sustains you as well, right? If you can get that bit of patience in there that's required to have that hope, because patience and hope go hand in hand.

SPEAKER_06

Mm-hmm. Can't have one without the other. Yeah.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

And um, I know one other thing that you mentioned to me in our conversation, um, Angel, you said, put God first.

SPEAKER_06

Mm-hmm. Why is that important? Because you're the only one who can do it.

SPEAKER_03

Nobody else can put God first in your life. You you have to be the one to do it. It's um it's a choice that you make. Um, it's a choice eventually that all of us will have to make because um he goes before us, if that makes sense. Yes. So so to recognize to recognize that is key.

SPEAKER_06

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_04

Well, we are now gonna go to your fire round, and each guest has a fire round. The fire round is really quick because sometimes, you know, in our interview when we're talking, it gets pretty heavy, the things we talk about. And so I like to end on a lighter note, but it still has a purpose in that you get to share with our audience something very quick. Um, because I'm gonna say a phrase and you say the first thing that comes to your mind. Okay, that's why they call it the fire realm.

SPEAKER_03

I won't cuss. I won't cuss. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_04

But this is Angel's Fire Realm, which is entitled Little Oprah Energy. So first one, turning 50.

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Ready. All right, motherhood. Everything. Everything. Okay, say that again. Everything.

SPEAKER_03

It's everything. Motherhood is everything.

SPEAKER_04

Everything. All right. Self-preservation. Essential. Essential, yes.

SPEAKER_06

Confidence. A must have. Must have. God first. Always. Always.

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Always. Your younger self. Go girl. Go. Go, go, go, girl. Go, go. Yes. All right.

SPEAKER_06

She shines means something better. Something better. Something better. All right.

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Wow. Well, Angel, I just want to thank you for showing us that shining isn't about perfection. None of us is perfect. But it's about everything you shared is about alignment, faith, self-respect. Oh my goodness, you ooze with self-respect. And to every woman who's listening to this podcast today, you don't have to shrink to be loved. You don't have to apologize for your confidence. And you don't have to fear the next season. Because growth looks good on you. Just look at Angel. It's looking good on her. And she is growing to be this wonderful woman in the community, but more importantly, in her home. So I'm excited. Angel, I want to share with everyone. I know you can't see it, but um, if you'd like to reach out to Angel, this is her web uh her email. Everybody's, and I'll put it back up again, underscore angel77 at yahoo.com. Reach out to her if you want to just ask her a question. Um or just yeah, if you want to talk find out more about her. And then, of course, you know, I always share with you if you would like to start this journey of transformation by the essence, excellence assessment, and then strength finders, and a minimum of 90 days to work with me so you can operate out of that essence and not by the avatar. Go to that link, canderly.com, forward slash KGilliam57, forward slash discovery dash call. That is free. That call is free, and so we can get you started on your journey. Hope you are liking and subscribing uh to our uh page, and you can go to She Shines 2025 in Facebook groups and join us. And we we've got a milestone, we reached over a hundred members um last week, and I'll I'll tell you, I'm giving a big shout out right now to Krisha Letty, who was a guest two episodes before ago, and last week was Victoria Gazus Monterrey. Between the two of them and their episodes and telling their stories, almost 100 downloads between the two of them. That's why no, what we're doing here at She Shines with Coach KG is helping women realizing okay, she if she could go through that, if she can be about that and still come out on top, I can too. So join our group, and then I'm sharing more lives. I'm doing reels in the Facebook group. So you want to be empowered, you want to be inspired, you want to know that you have a community of sisters that want to help you be the very best that you can be. So again, angel, girl, thank you. Keep shining. Thank you for showing us that your shine is bright and you it's gonna just keep getting brighter. I'm gonna be honest with with you. And uh don't forget, ladies, keep shining. Choose hope, as Angel said. Keep putting God first, as Angel said, and keep shining. This is Karen Coach KG and Angel.

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We love you. God bless you. Take care.

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Will you do your light or let your spirit break free? You got power inside you more than you can see. Time to real life, reclaim what's best to be just to power.