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Amelia and Desireé talk season 2 episode 10 "The Sacrifice" of The Vampire Diaries. Damon, no notes, Jeremy… a lot of notes.
Hello, listener. Welcome back to Barbie Vamps. It's Okay to Love Them All podcast. Each week we'll sink our teeth into every episode of the Vampire Diaries. Relive the drama, romance, twists, and supernatural goodness with us. I'm your host, Amelia, and this is your other host, Dizzer.
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SPEAKER_00Alright, Lana.
SPEAKER_06Alright. Are you calling yourself Lana?
SPEAKER_03I am Lana.
SPEAKER_06You're like, alright, me.
SPEAKER_03Okay, me?
SPEAKER_06Who is sounding like this right now?
SPEAKER_03She sings that song, right?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, Lana Delray. Is that another Lana Delray song? I think that's the same song. Oh.
SPEAKER_03In the Pale Moonlight.
SPEAKER_06Oh, probably. We were singing it.
SPEAKER_03So I liked it.
SPEAKER_06Well, welcome back, guys. Yes. Thank you for joining us for the 10th, right? Correct. 10th episode of season two. Uh it's called The Sacrifice. And I made sure we watched Matic Ass card to the scene where King Julian repeatedly says sacrifice, because I think it's one of the funniest things ever.
SPEAKER_03Well, a sacrifice. It's fantastic. It's such a funny, funny little guy.
SPEAKER_06I adore that character.
SPEAKER_03He's so cute.
SPEAKER_06He's so funny. He's not, I mean, I wouldn't say cute. He's kind of a terrible asshole. No, the the animal's cute. Oh, like a lemur. Yeah, it's cute. Yeah. I like the little lemur in it that has the huge eyes.
SPEAKER_03King Julian's an asshole.
SPEAKER_06And the ones that he uses, like the like in the show, I think he uses him as like on like a stick to like if there's explosives. The little one that's like stuck on the outside of the plane. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's sweet.
SPEAKER_03Very cute.
SPEAKER_06And it's they they they don't treat him very annoying. No. But King Julian's the worst.
SPEAKER_03Just so funny, though.
SPEAKER_06Um, but I adjust I think he's so like the laughter that that character has brought to me over the years is a lot of fun.
SPEAKER_03I actually don't know.
SPEAKER_06I think it's the guy from Borat. I think it's Borat.
SPEAKER_03No, Sasha Barra Cohen.
SPEAKER_06That yeah, that's his name.
SPEAKER_03No way. That would make sense. He's hilarious. I think so.
SPEAKER_06Let me look it up. I have this pocket computer.
SPEAKER_03Cool.
SPEAKER_06So I can look it up and buy a pocket like a pocketbook. How old? How old am I? It's a cell phone, you guys. Everybody relax. Okay, hold on. Let's think Julian. King Julian. Everybody else is like, we already knew that. Why are you wasting our time?
SPEAKER_02King Fashion.
SPEAKER_03Okay, where am I?
SPEAKER_06Yeah. King Julian.
SPEAKER_03He's a funny guy.
SPEAKER_06He's hilarious.
SPEAKER_03Previously married to Isla Fisher.
SPEAKER_06I know. I was kind of sad when they broke up.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_06I was like, oh, I thought those two kids about Hollywood.
SPEAKER_03Hollywood. Oh, is Hollywood gets you?
SPEAKER_06Completely non-sequidor here. My favorite Hollywood couple in the current times is Tom Holland and Zendaya.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god.
SPEAKER_06Like if they don't last, I'm like, is love even real? You know? Is love even real?
SPEAKER_03I love that they're married already and nobody knew. Like they did it, like still like it came out and then we're like, what, what, what?
SPEAKER_06Like actually private.
SPEAKER_03Actually, Taylor's like, stupid. Sorry about it. Sorry about it.
SPEAKER_06Sorry about it. Everybody that loves her. Um, I love them. We respect your opinion.
SPEAKER_03One of my favorite Hollywood couples is um Goldiehahn and Kurt Russell.
SPEAKER_06Oh, they're adorable too.
SPEAKER_03God, they're so good. They're adorable.
SPEAKER_06I yeah, but like, because when I was a teenager. Oh, well, he's fabulous to her. He like loves her.
SPEAKER_03It's so fucking protects her and like worships the ground she walks on.
SPEAKER_06It's like give us this energy.
SPEAKER_03Um he's like kind and like a good person and listens. Like doesn't mind being called girl.
SPEAKER_06Like I like that we're kind of just describing bare minimum, but like it's also like everything to us. But it's the truth. Um, yeah, like well, when I was a teenager and Jen and Brad when they broke up, tragedy. I was affected. Like I looking knew those people. I was like, I'm pretty sure that love is fiction. Whole love that that's never been real, and it it's a facade, and but we're all cursed to be alone and sad. And I was, and I think it's because my parents were divorcing and I was like going through stuff. Probably. And I put a lot of my energy into that relationship because I have a big thing for Jennifer Aniston. Um, but yeah, so I feel like that's my that now it's Zende and Tom Holland for me. I'm like, don't break up. Okay. I don't think they're don't put that into the universe.
SPEAKER_03I'd be shocked if they did. They like seem they seem like end game to me.
SPEAKER_06They seem that way. I really hope that they are. I hope that. Anyway, that has nothing to do with anything.
SPEAKER_03Stephen and Elena were in games.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, so that was my I'm a frustration uh exhale. Yeah. Um very frustrated.
SPEAKER_03I support it because this episode was a little frustrating. Um Elena, uh, I want to punch her in the throat.
SPEAKER_06You like her.
SPEAKER_03God, you guys, again, she's so God, this episode bothers me. We'll get into it.
SPEAKER_06Hit us with the uh the writer, the director, all the goods, or the sacrifice.
SPEAKER_03Grab your is that when we say it.
SPEAKER_06Oh grab your verbane, pour a drink, and let's dive in. It has been a while.
SPEAKER_03Um, so season two, episode 10, The Sacrifice. Sacrifice uh was directed by Ralph Hemmecker and written by Caroline Dries. Those are two people and those are their names.
SPEAKER_06Great work. We have to give them their due. Okay, they did a lot of work here.
SPEAKER_03Listen, this episode fucking pissed me off.
SPEAKER_06I know it did.
SPEAKER_03Hit me with the recap.
SPEAKER_06Uh well, it came out December 2nd, 2010, so it's almost 2011. Oh my god. Moving on up. Okay, the description. This is the description I wrote.
SPEAKER_02Tell me.
SPEAKER_06Elena makes decisions behind everyone's back. Jeremy is annoying as fuck to help Bonnie. Stefan is a selfless angel. That's the description.
SPEAKER_03And that's it. Thank you guys for listening. So that's pretty much wraps it up. Elena's a dumb cut, and thank you very much.
SPEAKER_06Thank you. Thank you. We wrote that. Um, okay, so the episode opens with Elena sleeping under like a throw blanket, her journals open on her bed. Like she kind of passed out while she was diarying.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god. It's a tragic.
SPEAKER_06So that's how she fell asleep. But then we see what's his name? Jo Jonas' dad. Jonas. Jonas is the dad, right? Is Jonas the dad? Jonas is not the dad. Jonah is the young guy.
SPEAKER_03I thought it was Jonah. Or am I? Oh, we're No, I'm pretty sure the young one's Jonas. Because Bonnie calls him Jonas.
SPEAKER_06Jonas! I need to know now. I'm gonna look this up while we discuss this scene. Um, but the dad, uh, the warlock is looking um through like at her, basically, but she's sneaking in her room like a little creep creep, like a freaking creep creep. And she kind of wakes up, maybe because she likes senses, but she hears something, and what does she hear?
SPEAKER_03Jenna and a lark fucking.
SPEAKER_06Well, post.
SPEAKER_03Post fuck. Post fuck. Um, yeah, so she catches a lark in his underwear, and he's like, what does he got? Like cereal or something? I think it's ice cream. Ice cream, something like that. It's more sexy than cereal.
SPEAKER_06Maybe down for some cereal. Um I mean, well, I love cereals. Same, all the kinds. Give me that cereal aisle.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and then Jenna pops out and is like, they have this whole thing. The dad is Jonas. Yeah, yeah. The dad is Jonas.
SPEAKER_06The dad is Jonas, and the son is Luca.
SPEAKER_03I could have sworn I called she called him Jonas.
SPEAKER_06To Matt. It's Luca Martin and Dr. Jonas Martin.
SPEAKER_03I could have sworn she called the kid Jonas.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, nope, it's the dad. Okay. Oh well. I'm brilliant.
SPEAKER_03Anyways, she catches him in the hallway. They have a little awkward interaction.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, he's like uncomfortable. He's like, I'm naked. And I'm like, You're not naked. No, you're in your box. You're fully just topless. You're topless. I can see your useless nipples. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03Jenna's just like, is this okay, sorry? And Elena's.
SPEAKER_06And she's wearing his his button-up shirt. She's got that on.
SPEAKER_03And again, Jenna still knows fucking nothing.
SPEAKER_06No, she knows nothing. No one tells Jenna anything. But so she's like, Oh, I thought I heard something, and it was just them getting their ice cream after they made love. Yeah. Sweet passionate love.
SPEAKER_03Banging.
SPEAKER_06Banging it up. Um, and then Elena goes back to her room and then she goes to sleep again, but like in the weirdest way. Like she goes pillow, she just goes in and she like lays down and immediately shuts her eyes. Like, it's the weirdest, like there was no transition. It was just like, okay, and I'm sleeping. But she went back under the throw blanket, left her diary on the bed. I'm like, why aren't you cleaning this up and getting under the blankets? Like, I understand if you fell asleep awkwardly the first time, but now you're just going back into that position. It was odd. It was odd, but whatever, it's fine. It's so that you know, during the time that she's talking about the ice cream, Jonas can come in. Oh, and he's stealing shit.
SPEAKER_03All the shit. He's taking so much stuff. Like so much stuff.
SPEAKER_06Why do you need all of her things and her hair? I mean, the hair makes sense. The hair is very witch.
SPEAKER_03Jewelry, uh photo, and a frame.
SPEAKER_06Like yes, like all of her good. Like, I'm like, she's gonna notice. I feel like the amount of stuff you took, it's like not just giving. Where's that one thing? It's like, where's my 10 items that were sitting on this specific area?
SPEAKER_03My whole pie. It's like he came in and like took her bed and was like, and she's just like, hmm, good night. Goes to sleep on the floor. Like, what? So much stuff.
SPEAKER_06I mean, I get I get her walking right in and not noticing, but in the morning, sure. There was like 10 things right here where am I losing my mind?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's weird.
SPEAKER_06Very often. And then who cleaned out my brush? Like, I'm sorry, I know.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_06I know if my brush was cleaned out and my hair was removed, I would notice. I would notice.
SPEAKER_03I also have a routine, I clean it out every time I use it.
SPEAKER_06So that you're better than I. I don't, nor my daughters. And I brought her over for a sleepover to my mom's house, and the next day I took out her brush and I was like, Oh, my mom cleaned my kid's brush out, and I immediately noticed because it it was clean where it had not been clean before. So I'm just saying. I'm just saying. You're getting kind of getting kind of obvious, Dr. Jonas Warlock, Martin.
SPEAKER_03Jonah. I'm just gonna call him Jonah.
SPEAKER_06He's Jonah. He's Jonah Jonas.
SPEAKER_03Jonah Jonas.
SPEAKER_06Maybe that. Maybe we were making jokes like that, and that's what happened in our brains. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03That's just what Bonnie called him Jonas. Anyways, who cares?
SPEAKER_06Who even knows? Um, so uh we get just from that scene to the vampire diaries, and then we see Stefan just in the cute like tan, creamy colored Henley, like button, long-sleeved shirt, just so hot, moving that big stone from the tomb, like just being like, who's the hottest bitch around? And I'm like, oh, you guys, Stefan and Damon. And uh they're moving the stone from the tomb, and just and then I need to talk to Catherine. So they they kind of have that moment where you're seeing that, and then you see what they're currently doing, and they kind of go back and forth between that moment and them showing up to Elena's house. And he's like, We need to talk about Catherine. And she's like, Come on in. Because she's like, at first, she's like, What are you guys doing here? I know, and I'm like, excuse me, excuse me. Don't treat Stefan this way.
SPEAKER_03For a real bitch.
SPEAKER_06You broke his heart, and you're gonna be like, Why are you at my house? I mean, I get it. If we broke up with someone and they came up and we'd be like, excuse me, why are you at my house?
SPEAKER_03But it's a different kind of breakup, so like she Yeah, because you didn't want to break like she she it's not the same kind of breakup. I hate her. I hate her.
SPEAKER_06I know you were talking about it so much during the episode, and I was like, I'm not hating her at all right now. But you are hitting her so hard. I hated I have an issue with Jeremy in this episode, though.
SPEAKER_03He's annoying too. Both of them are fucking annoying.
SPEAKER_06Um, so they go back to the Catherine moment, and he's Stefan's basically like talking to Catherine, who's very like clearly starving. Oh yeah, she's uh she can't like lift her feet well, she's like very like shumping around. Shumping around, her hair's disheveled, like whatever. Anyway, he's like, We're here for the moonstone because we left it with you in the stone. Because we're idiots, which makes absolutely no logical sense. Uh, because we can't get in there to get it. So that's a great place to have it, isn't it? Uh so Catherine's kind of like, well, if you like figure out a way to get me out here, I'll give it to you. And Stefan adorably is like, thought you liked it in here. Didn't you just say that you're the safest psychotic bitch in town or something?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_06No. Oh, you didn't hear me. And she's like, I've had some time to think about it. Because she's hungry. Yeah. Although I I feel like she was lying anyway. I think she's just a lying liar who lies.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, she's just a playing, she will never stop playing games.
SPEAKER_06But I like that a beyond being hungry, like beyond that being the point she's trying to make, is that she's bored. I was like, I fucking love this. I like it.
SPEAKER_03I mean, after 500 years, I'd be bored too.
SPEAKER_06She's like, I'm just sitting here for like, how long has she even been there at this point? Like a couple days? A week? I feel like I don't think it's been that long.
SPEAKER_03I would have just started like punching at the rock and like breaking the earth and found a way out, like climbed out.
SPEAKER_06Isn't it like isn't it like pr like for like the magic force field around the whole like area? Like it's encompassing.
SPEAKER_03I don't know.
SPEAKER_06All right. Well, yeah, she don't know if she don't try.
SPEAKER_03That's what I was saying. I'd find I'd be trying, bitch, I'd be trying to sh dig my way to China and start digging or some shit.
SPEAKER_04Like, or I'll go the other way. Yeah, I'll go to the core of the earth.
SPEAKER_03Like, I'll just keep going until like the ring is broken. There's no more ring. Yeah, it's like yeah, I get that.
SPEAKER_06No, yeah. So she be bored because she'd been on the run for 500 years and she's used to doing whatever she wants. Having a great time, partying it up. Um, but Elena's just kind of like, well, you don't like believe her, do you? And someone's like, No, of course I don't believe her. No one believes Catherine or anything that comes out of that lying bitch's mouth. He didn't say that, but we both know that's what he was meant. That's what he was saying.
unknownYep.
SPEAKER_06Because that's what we all say.
SPEAKER_03Because she's a lying bitch.
SPEAKER_06Because she's a lying liar. But um, they want to destroy their their whole plan basically is just destroy the curse within the moonstone, basically, so that they can't break the curse. It's just kind of like the curse is the curse because they destroyed the binding agent that is the moonstone. Correct. So they're like, we're gonna Bonnie's gonna be involved. And she's like, You got Bonnie involved? And it's like, yeah, she actually agreed to help. She's doing witchy shit for us now. Isn't that great? She's come to the right side of the game.
SPEAKER_00There's another person that's gonna put their life on the line for me because it's all about me.
unknownI fucking hate her.
SPEAKER_06Now listen, I agree that her whininess about it being about her is annoying. But I do I do have a respect. Why can't I move this microphone? I'm very annoyed. It's too low, and I'm my torso is too long. I can't why it won't go either way. Am I just I lefty Lucy? It's not working.
SPEAKER_03Uh the one on the other side.
unknownThis is the one that does it. I just did it, but it wasn't fine enough.
SPEAKER_06I hate everything. I'll just slouch it. So I'm just gonna I'm gonna do this. I'm like a freaking 98-year-old woman right now in this chair. Okay, anyway, it doesn't matter. Okay. Uh so what was I think? Oh, I do respect the fact that Elena is willing, like she's willing to give up her life for everybody she cares about. And I think that's r you know, commendable because Catherine, number one, wasn't obviously she never will be ever in a day in her life. Um, but Elena, like, yes, she's very like, oh my god, it's because of me. That's annoying. But like her being like, oh yeah, I'm actually gonna step up and protect all of you. Listen, I get it.
SPEAKER_03I fuck with that. I would do the same thing, but I wouldn't be like, oh ming, ming yung. No one would know what's happening. I'd sneak away, I'd figure it out, and not but she did try she did try to do it. Yeah, I know, but she fucking didn't succeed because she's a stupid bitch who whines about everything.
SPEAKER_06Like that you can't see past how much you hate her.
SPEAKER_03God, she's such a whiny bitch.
SPEAKER_06Like she's whiny. Yes, she is whiny.
SPEAKER_03Uh not everything is about you, Elena. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, it's very it's it is, but it's also like she understands from Catherine that if she were to run, if she tried to do what Catherine did, everybody she cared about would be murdered. So I can understand why she's doing what she's doing.
SPEAKER_03I don't know, as I said, I agree with that. But like, stop bitching about it.
SPEAKER_06I know, but it's also like because her point at the end to skip all the way to the end of the Amazon when she's kind of having that conversation where she's like, everybody is so upset that I want to do this to sacrifice myself, hence the name of the episode, the sacrifice, that I'm gonna sacrifice myself, but all of you would do do it for me, but you're questioning me. And I get it because they all are always like, we have to save Elena. That's like the whole fucking premise of everything.
SPEAKER_03That annoys me too.
SPEAKER_06But Bonnie's like, Oh, I'll die for you, and that's like okay. No one's mad at Bonnie for trying to give up her life. And I agree, it's double standard. It's very double standard towards Elena, I think. But I do think that like, while I think she can be really whiny, kind of self-centered sometimes in that she's always like, Me, me, me, it's about me. Everything's happening because of me. Even though she does care about everybody around her, she's still like, it's happening because of me, and it's annoying. I still think, you know, hey, she's she's a good friend, and she's willing to die so that her friends don't die, just like Bonnie and Caroline, you know, the crew.
SPEAKER_03They're not as annoying.
SPEAKER_06The crew. I love it.
SPEAKER_03And they're humble and take it and like roll them in.
SPEAKER_06Um, but anyway, when when she when they say Bonnie's gonna destroy the stone, she Elena, which you love, says she doesn't want them to do it um because of Klaus. And I love that they're like, well, we'll destroy the moonstone, then we'll find Klaus. Guys, listen, Stefan, Damon, why would you seek out Klaus? Haven't you heard enough about him to not want to do that? What do you thought? What are you thinking thotting?
SPEAKER_03They just really think that they're so strong, like they're so naive.
SPEAKER_06Like, guys, he's a big, bad, scary story, and you're just over here, like, yeah.
SPEAKER_03It's because they think they killed Elijah.
SPEAKER_06So it's just like they really think they're real duped right now. Yeah, they've got like they're in denial city, they're in the denial river.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but they're gonna realize very soon that uh Elijah's not dead, maybe.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, but I because like she's like literally, he killed everyone Catherine cares about. Catherine's afraid of him, and Catherine can kill whoop your guys' ass. Okay, and she's smart and she's clever, and she's been on the run for 500 years because she's a survivor.
SPEAKER_02I'm a survivor.
SPEAKER_06I'm not gonna stop. We're all uh so anyway. Um the fact that they're just like, yeah, we'll find him after, we'll deal with that later. I'm like, oh yeah, that tiny little nugget that you'll just deal with later. Okay, guys. So cute. You're so cute. Oh, Stefan. No, and then Stefan, take your shirt off and tell us about it.
SPEAKER_03Just put your tongue up my throat. What's the problem? I don't see it.
SPEAKER_06I was always married again. Okay.
SPEAKER_03So you're saying there's a chance. You're saying there's a chance. That's what I'm saying. He doesn't seem to be very committed.
SPEAKER_06So I'm just saying, hey, we're looking at a track record here.
SPEAKER_03Give me uh, I'll see you in about seven years, my guy. Send me it. Send me. I won't marry and divorce you. I will happily do that.
SPEAKER_06Happily. What a great time that will be for everybody involved.
SPEAKER_03We grew apart, we had amazing times. So much sex.
SPEAKER_06Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03No, yeah, it looked like a Santa Barbara though. It looked really pretty. I'm pretty sure it's a courthouse there.
SPEAKER_06It was beautiful and they looked beautiful. The photography was gorgeous and very like luxury. Yeah. It was cute. I liked it. Anyway. So Jonas or Jonah, wait, who am I talking about? Because I thought their name was Jonah, but it's Luca.
SPEAKER_05See?
SPEAKER_06Well, I thought it was Jonah and Jonas, and apparently it's Luca and Jonas, and nobody understands a damn thing.
SPEAKER_03Like a Mandela effect.
SPEAKER_06I like seriously, for real. I don't understand why our brains are.
unknownAnyway.
SPEAKER_06Getting older. They're they're uh Bonnie and and Luca are at the school discussing magic. You guys, magique. You guys. And she's like, sometimes I get bad reactions. Like I fast out, or I get nosebleeds. And I love that nosebleeds are always so dramatic in movies and shows because I get them all the time. And I'm like, Am I dying?
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah, no.
SPEAKER_06Um, it's just like normal. Yeah. Um, but he's like, Oh, it's because you're trying to do too much and you like need help, like you're overdoing it, obviously. But you can like channel like nature elements, another witch, and like draw double your strength and draw power from these things. I'm like, but we saw that she did that with Grams, and Grams died.
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_06So we already know you can she I guess she didn't register, that's what she was doing. Like, she hadn't really learned how to do that. Grams was doing that, probably. Yeah. But like still, there's still only so much you can do with certain like if your grams in you, your grams in you. Couldn't open that and she died. You're just sitting over here thinking, Oh, I'll just channel this like other teenagers.
SPEAKER_03I mean, to be fair, she don't know how much he knows. He could be some badass warlock that like To be fair, yeah. Because he knew about it. He's she's freshly new.
SPEAKER_06She's new, she's learning. And he's like, he's like, How did you not know about all this? Like, and she's like, Well, I thought my grandma was just drunk, which she was, which makes me love Grams even more. Like, she know how to have a good time. She was like, I'm gonna have my drinks and practicing spinning. Like, I was like, I respect it. Okay. Um, but yeah, so they he's like, Let me show you. And like they like hold hands and he's like, Close your eyes, and they have these moments.
SPEAKER_03He gives her his necklace and she gives him her bracelet, and they like hold on to it, and the wind is starts to howling, and the leaves start to blow. Swirling all around them. And everyone's around them's like, Oh my god, what's happening?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, one of the girls, one of the blondes behind is like struggling in the wind, like she's in a fucking storm. It's so funny. Like they're dressed.
SPEAKER_03It's weird. So weird.
SPEAKER_06Being super weird.
SPEAKER_03And then here comes Jeremy.
SPEAKER_06Oh my god, what's with this weather, huh? I can't. I cannot with Jeremy.
SPEAKER_03That's kind of weird, huh?
SPEAKER_06No, we're twice. Why are we going huh? After everything. I will kick you in the shin.
SPEAKER_03Also, Bonnie jumping on the no, he's not.
SPEAKER_06Uh yeah, it's he's cool. It's like obvious, Bonnie. Like obvious that he's saying that because he's jelly timed because he was playing pool and you weren't watching him.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, watch your watch. He wants to be watching, he wants to watch a little stick, put a ball in a hole on a table that it's pre-built.
SPEAKER_01Pool. And you didn't.
SPEAKER_06And you didn't. You didn't. You were flirting with a brother warlock. And you have witch connections, and he's so jealous. We're fine. Anyway, it's obvious, Bonnie. So anyway, Jeremy's annoying. Um but she's and then she gets a message and she's like, it's Damon.
SPEAKER_03Yep. What does he want?
SPEAKER_06So then we're at the Salvatore Mansion boarding house, and Elena's to the door because she's gonna go talk to the boys, maybe. We think, probably, right? That's why she'd normally show up. And then Rose comes out in a towel.
SPEAKER_03No, she comes out in a robe.
SPEAKER_06In a robe. That's right. I'm thinking of Lexi. Robe. And she comes out and she's like, what is she? Something about leaving a girl naked alone or something? Because she knows Damon.
SPEAKER_03I never thought you'd leave a girl naked, half naked in the morning.
SPEAKER_06Something like that. Yeah, sounds right.
SPEAKER_03And Elena's like, oh my god. Wow, I've never seen someone in a robe before.
SPEAKER_06And it's someone that I'm not even with. Like, oh my god, I'm so what why would Damon, who's supposed to be obsessed with me, have sex with you? Who took me? How dare he like someone that kidnapped me?
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna punch her.
SPEAKER_06It's dumb. Like, don't be jealous, don't be weird. You have Stefan and end sentence. Period.
SPEAKER_03This is how it should have gone. Uh half naked in the morning. Oh, hey, good morning. Glad you got a good time. Yeah, not Damon. Um, I'm actually here to talk to you. Do you have a second?
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_03That's how it should have gone.
SPEAKER_05Not oh my god, I've never seen people have sex before. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, okay, yeah. Oh, whoa, okay.
SPEAKER_03Like, shut up.
SPEAKER_06I want you. I want to like do a video montage of you reacting. Not reacting. That was a lie. Reenacting Elena scenes. Like, but overdramaticizing. Yeah. But you're like folded in.
SPEAKER_00Seven Verbane. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Oh god, she's so annoying, you guys. Shut up, Elena.
SPEAKER_06Anyway, she's there to see Rose because she wants to see Slater.
SPEAKER_03Slater.
SPEAKER_06Because Slater knows all the things about the vampires and the originals and the Klaus and the Elijah. And Rose is like, I don't think I can help you like at all, bitch. And she's like, Do you want to see the sun? Do you want to be in the sun?
SPEAKER_03And she broody bribes her.
SPEAKER_06She does brobity bribe her. And it works because she's like, I've been a slave for 500 years to this motherfucking son. Been a shadowy bitch. And I'm ready for some UV. Ready, ready, ready, ready, ready. Ready for the sun. Oh my god, I loved it. Okay. Anyway. Tyler's playing some b-ball out by the. I'm sorry. I need to stop.
SPEAKER_03I was gonna sing for a friends of the I went to um how to beat Shaq.
SPEAKER_06Oh, really? It's so good. Well, we're you know, millennials. Anyway, so uh Matt shows up and he is apologetic about the masquerade bowl. Which happened like two episodes ago.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Like, oh damn. All right, that's why I feel like it hasn't been that long that Catherine's been in the tomb. I feel like it's been like a week.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Um, because I mean it makes sense, all this stuff's happening so fast. It is happening. Like she got kidnapped for like a day. Yeah. And that was a full episode. Yeah. So that makes sense.
SPEAKER_03But the boys are browning and absurdness. Sorry, he feels bad.
SPEAKER_06He's been dodging him because he feels and Tyler's immediately like, it's fine.
unknownYep.
SPEAKER_06He just he's going through too much to give a shit, Matt. Yeah. He's literally gonna be a wolf soon.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_06So he has no time for your drums. Nobody has time. Nobody has time.
SPEAKER_03I don't care about this. I'm gonna be a wolf soon. Do you understand?
SPEAKER_06Do you underfucking Stan what I'm going through?
SPEAKER_03Okay. I woo the whole thing, okay? So fine.
SPEAKER_06I'm literally a werewolf.
SPEAKER_03So you're forgiven.
SPEAKER_06That fucking moon right there? I'm gonna turn into a slave to it. I'm a slave to it. I'm a slave. So Caroline comes over being the sweetest little fucking sweet ass. She's so sweet. Her voice is just like this delicate little sweet. Sweet little beats. I love her so much. Um, she's checking on Matt. She's like, How are you, Matt? I'm so nice. And he's like, Oh, I'm uncomfortable because we broke up and I have feelings for you, but I'm weird, so I'm gonna go away now.
SPEAKER_03Yep, that's exactly what happened, honestly.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, and then and then Tyler is like, Oh, you get still in the outs. Yep, sure are, because I'm a fucking vampire and he doesn't know about it. And Tyler's like, Oh, yeah, that makes sense. You should be with someone you could be honest with.
SPEAKER_01They're foreshadowing there. Thank you very much.
SPEAKER_06Little bit, little bit, a little bit. Um, and uh she asks him about the whole wolf thing. Yeah, because it's a little bit more than a lot of things. Like, so the whole the whole moon coming, you slave to, you turn where man.
SPEAKER_01What do?
SPEAKER_06And so um, she starts like he's like, nah, it's like personal. What? Shut the floor. What's personal about this? It's not like you're starting your man period. Relax. Seriously, really, like relax, Tyler. So she like starts naming her accomplishments and like things she's done. Because she's like, excuse me, you don't want my my help? Are you fucking crazy?
SPEAKER_02I mean, she's not wrong.
SPEAKER_06She's not wrong. And he's like, Okay, you're right. He he heard her, he heard her on her soap on she is.
SPEAKER_03I'm the chairman of this. I ran the this and organized this. You don't want my help.
SPEAKER_06Are you fucking crazy?
SPEAKER_03I'll be like, I'll take your help, Caroline.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I'll take care of it any day. She should be a member of the president. She should be the president of the internet.
SPEAKER_03She's a mythical creature like you too. Like, so you and you don't know anybody else about it.
SPEAKER_06So yeah, she's also a fictional character that you didn't know was real until yesterday. Like a week or two weeks ago. No, I mean being like a vampire in a witch. You know things. Anyway, it's fine. Bonnie's like, I can totally lower that tomb spell. No, you can't, Bonnie. I respect that you feel you can.
SPEAKER_03We love a confident queen. We love that, but we also need someone who's self-aware.
SPEAKER_06Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You know? We need that. We need that. And they're kind and they are discussing how they might be uh underestimating Catherine even though she's starving. Right. They're like, but could you still beat her even though she's weaker with the no-feeding? Right. Because she's still Gather. And they're like, well, solid boy. Yeah. So Stefan brings out the picture from 19 not 19. 18. 1864, and they burn it.
SPEAKER_03He's like, This is hers. She's like, I'll make ash with the metal front. Because it's a metal picture. She's like, I'll make ash with it. It's like a tin type. Yeah. She's like, I'll make the ash and we can blow it on her and it'll incapacitate her for a few minutes, and we'll get this done and get out of there.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, so it's a lower the thing, incapacitate her, grab it, go. Good plan if you're strong enough. But um, I love that Jeremy this whole time is kind of like, I could go in and do it because then there's no spell needed, which I do respect his opinion on that, like giving some giving some like ideas. Okay. I just love Damon. Uh you're a 16-year-old. Like, what are you even doing here? I loved it. I was like, thank you. Yeah. This fucking boy needs to relax.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you're a child.
SPEAKER_06You have a ring, so you can just keep dying, and you think that that's sufficient. Are you kidding me? You're a 16-year-old little boy. Please, for the love of let the million aged people deal with this issue. And they're also vampires, and she's a vampire, and like just let them do what they're gonna do.
SPEAKER_03Also, like quit trying to be the fucking hero.
SPEAKER_06And you can't control what Bonnie's gonna do. At the end of the day, like, you can try to protect her. I respect that. And you're bringing up ideas. Great, let's bring up ideas. Let's bring them up.
SPEAKER_03Take a page out of Stefan's book and listen to the woman.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Just let Stefan. There should be like a handbook for men.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_06About about how to be Stefan.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Anyway. Um, it's like because it's like the Elena argument, you know, you know, it's like, okay, you can't control what people do. Yep. Um but also I can respect you want to protect Bonnie.
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_06Get it. Respect it. And you're bringing ideas to the table. Yes, let's do that.
SPEAKER_03We also know your fucking place.
SPEAKER_06But yeah, also you are 16 and she's a witch, and these are vampires. And this is you're out of your element here, and you really can't do anything. You can't.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Like we're you are human. Shut up.
SPEAKER_06Unless you're willing to die, you really can't help out my guy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_06So that's what that's about. Henry, when they show up looking for Slater, they're like knocking and they're like, Slater! And then he doesn't come to the door and she opens the door and then she walks in, she's like, I guess he can't help us, and then it's like, oh, he's dead, and it's sad. Poor Slater.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, R.I.P. Slater. R.I.P.
SPEAKER_06He was just a nice, smart, educated vampire. He's just living as a vampire. He's like, I just want to get all these doctorates and have a good time. And I want to go to Mystical Faith. He never even got to go to Mystic Falls.
SPEAKER_03Nope. He never turned.
SPEAKER_06Or Slater.
SPEAKER_02Poor Slater. Sad. Never saw the sun.
SPEAKER_06Nope. But um, here comes the sun. So then they're like looking at his computer and they're like, we can't get into this computer because of the password. And then they're like, oh, the person that blew up the cafe is definitely who came and killed Slater. Yeah. Which I mean, that's they're not wrong. That's exactly what happened.
SPEAKER_03That is exactly what happened.
SPEAKER_06Um, and then they hear something, and it's Alice, Slater's really weird girlfriend. Who wants to be turned girlfriend who's just couldn't be more of a stereotype?
SPEAKER_03Very much so, yeah.
SPEAKER_06I was like, this is giving stereotype into people that are into vampires.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Okay. Sure.
SPEAKER_03Goth, weird, alt chick. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Well, it was just, yeah, the weird isn't the the goth alt part, just whatever. But it the weird was just how, like, I want to be turned. That part. Weird. You're weird, lady. The fact that the like even Rose was like, she's not crying because of Slater.
SPEAKER_03She's crying because she can't be turned.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, like, ew, that guy was nice. We're using him. Fuck you, Alice. I don't have a lot of nice things to say about you now. Now do I.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, they do. It's funny.
SPEAKER_06I don't mind it. I'm like, if you're using him, then they can use it. It's free game. Free game. It's the way of the world. The way of the world. It's the way of the world. And it's not hurting anybody. I mean, except Alice. Okay, so insignificant. Well, yeah, she's just in this one thing. Um, but uh, yeah, and uh his windows too in his apartment were like the cafe ones where you can actually stand and see the sun, which is nice.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, UV protected.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, it's nice for them. Rose, I guess, would hang out there and just watch the day. So it shows you a little bit that Rose and Slater had a a relationship. Yeah, friendship. Yeah, sad. All her friends are murdered by Elijah specifically.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, well, yeah.
SPEAKER_03I'm not gonna spoil anything.
SPEAKER_00You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She knows what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_06Um one more episode.
SPEAKER_03One more episode.
SPEAKER_06Halfway there. Uh so um Matt is bummin' hard.
SPEAKER_02Matt's bummin' hard.
SPEAKER_06He's bummin' hard.
SPEAKER_02Bumming hard, missing Caroline. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_06He is.
SPEAKER_03It's uh struggling with the guilt of killing someone.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, being a part of that whole situation. And Tyler and Caroline are kind of talking about it and what it's like for them, you know. Can't be honest. No, they're um where are they? They're walking to the Lockwood cellar.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that's right. They're the cellar.
SPEAKER_06And I and I love that Tyler's like, this is the old Lockwood cellar. She's like, I know.
SPEAKER_03And he's like, She's like, I just she's like heard about it and I just like know that this was there.
SPEAKER_06Like, I've never been here. I don't know anything you're talking about.
SPEAKER_03I've never seen this before.
SPEAKER_06I don't think I've ever said a thing ever in my life. So what? Yeah, so good. And he just like doesn't care. He's like, okay, like I love it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Um, but they're yanking the chains, and we both had the same thought. Like, yeah, okay, you're like the bolts are fine, but I need new chains. I'm like, why is Tyler the one pulling it? Shouldn't the vampire pull it to see that the supernatural strength is sufficient?
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Wouldn't you think that that would be the play?
SPEAKER_03Exactly. I thought.
SPEAKER_06Because I'm like, Tyler, you can't logically think that when you turn into a werewolf, you're not gonna be stronger.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Because you're turning into a mythical creature. Like, there's good, like, come on. Let's be realistic, Tyler, about the unrealistic.
SPEAKER_03I mean, maybe he thinks he's just gonna turn into a werewolf, but not like that doesn't come. I don't know. Maybe he doesn't know about the strength.
SPEAKER_06I mean, how does he even know what it looks like? Like, it could look like a werewolf from like Harry Potter and the prisoner of Azkaban.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Maybe you don't look like a cute dog.
SPEAKER_03Seriously.
SPEAKER_06You know, you don't know, you don't know what you're gonna come out like, werewolf in Paris, okay? Come on.
SPEAKER_03All right, come on now. Come on.
SPEAKER_06Um, but she finds something like wrapped in like a cloth, which is we I don't understand why Mason wrapped it in a cloth. Yeah. But he like wrapped his journal. Because everybody be journaling, okay? Which makes sense when you're going to say it. But he said it's diaries, it's Mason's diary. And they find that.
SPEAKER_03And he chronicles pretty much everything of him turning.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, he talks about like the his his changing uh personality, which I thought was weird because once his friend died in their fight, he said he wasn't himself and he was getting angry and impatient and all these things. But I'm like, Tyler was like that prior to the incident of the turning. I thought that was just like how werewolves were. Yeah, they just run how even before they have that activated curse inside of them. Like I thought, I don't know. So I was like, hmm.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, just a little plot hole.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, that's what it felt like a little bit. So anyway. Stefan's like, I'm gonna go get some torches, and we got some steak guns. Not meat steak, but like wooden steaks. Um Jeremy's like, you can't do this, you're not strong enough. And she's like, shh, and she puts his finger to his. I'm like, this is like this is a lot, this is a lot, you guys. And she's like, it's gonna be fine. Shut the fuck up, Jeremy. Um, and then she walks away because they're all gonna leave, and he steals some of the ash. Yep. He's like, I'm gonna just take some of this through her at her.
SPEAKER_03Stupid.
SPEAKER_06He's trying to be the hero, but Jeremy, we both know you're a 16-year-old, and what are you doing here?
SPEAKER_03Who just learned about all this?
SPEAKER_06Like, I agree with Damon, okay?
SPEAKER_03Uh Damon was no notes to this episode.
SPEAKER_06Spot on. Spot on. And those eyeballs, like, what up? How are you talking to me today, sir? How are we discussing how you look today, sir? Anyway, sir. So after Elena kind of finds out that Alice is crying for her own bullshit reasons and not because she actually gave a shit. Because she obviously was like, she's like making tea, and she's just like, she just lost her boyfriend. Like, this is terrible. And Rosa's like, nah. And so after she finds that out, she comes out and she's like, hmm, I'm gonna need that password for his computer. She's like, How dare you ask me that? She's like, mm-hmm, yeah. Anyway, with the password, I loved it. She like, no beat, no beat. She was like, I'm just gonna jump to it. I'm gonna jump to the I need that. And then she's like, Listen, if you give me that, Rose will turn it down, point me towards Klaus. You wanna you wanna turn into a vampire? Because maybe I can convince Rose to do that. So she immediately jumps on board and Rose is like, you know, she didn't know, absolutely not. And Elena's like, I know she doesn't know that. And I think I'll give it. Rose respected that.
SPEAKER_03Period.
SPEAKER_06I could see her her eyes were like, Okay, I see you.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, play the game, get what you gotta need, get what you need.
SPEAKER_06And apparently the person wiped out the computer, but uh Slater had backups, so take care of all that. Yeah, and I think what was his password Kristen Stewart or something like that. Yeah, Kristen Stewart. That's so fucking fantastic.
SPEAKER_03Because of Twilight. I love it.
SPEAKER_06I liked that little like Easter egg. Mm-hmm. I liked it. Um so she sends like, I think they're like the Craigslist thing where they're sending the messages to this guy that apparently had been in communication, a guy named Cody uh with Slater multiple times about Elijah. So they're like, write him. So they're like, hey, she's like, write him, say, send a message that the doppelganger's live and wants to surrender. Yeah. And Rose is like, the fuck? Yeah, the fuck you say to me right now. And Rose is like, pissed. She's like, You fucking lied. Yeah, ch and Elena's like, Yeah, I know you wouldn't do it, so did what I had to do, bitch.
SPEAKER_03And so she says, All right, bet. And goes and calls David.
SPEAKER_06All right, so I'm gonna do what I gotta do. So she calls up Damon. I don't want them to be pissed off at me now. Yeah, I don't have no friends, so I'm gonna, you know. Anyway, and she tells Rose, she's like, it's me or my family, so it's gonna be me. It's gonna be May.
SPEAKER_05All that I do is not enough for you. Don't wanna lose it, but I'm not like that. And finally, finally, you get to love.
SPEAKER_03Guess what?
SPEAKER_02It's gonna be May.
SPEAKER_06Anyway, sorry about that.
SPEAKER_03I try to show the program.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, so in sync. Uh so anyway, Cody's on his way. I was like, Cody's on his way. I should yeah, yeah, he's coming. And she's like, Oh my god. Uh doppelganger? She's like into the she's into this. She's into it, yeah. She loves the lore. Oh shit. Now I know why you look familiar.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, see you. I know you be.
SPEAKER_06You're a doppel.
SPEAKER_03You a you a ganger.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, you know.
SPEAKER_03Gang, gang, gang, gang.
SPEAKER_06Yes, yes. So Jeremy shows up and he's like, I'm here for the moonstone. And Catherine's just like, okay. Uh and then he's like, steak, ash.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_06And it, I mean, I gotta give him props. He did a great job.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. But uh, motherfucker didn't think because he's a child and she didn't have the moonstone on her.
SPEAKER_06Why wouldn't you keep yourself prepared with more stakes immediately? Yeah. Why wouldn't you have more ash?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Why are you getting the moonstone, finding it, and then staring at it for 300 years and inspecting it and then leaving? And when she comes at you, why are you not prepared with more stuff? Yep. What is happening in this scene that makes sense? I'm just like so frustrated. Because now you're in here and she's eating you. Great work, Jeremy. Now her strength's now everybody's now everybody's fucked. And you made a good point.
SPEAKER_03He could have just killed her.
SPEAKER_05He could have staked her in the heart.
SPEAKER_03Catherine problem over.
SPEAKER_06Over. And like who's gonna care?
SPEAKER_03Who is gonna care?
SPEAKER_06I mean, maybe Damon and Stefan a little. A little. But like they'd get over it.
SPEAKER_03But they'd get over it.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, they wouldn't be like, oh no, Jeremy. They would have been like, ah, alright. Also, couldn't technically uh well, I guess no. I want to hear what's happening in your brain.
SPEAKER_03I'm like, can't Catherine be the doppelganger? Like, they're both a doppelganger.
SPEAKER_06They're no, because she's dead. She's a vampire. You have to be a human doppelganger.
SPEAKER_03That is correct. That is correct.
SPEAKER_06That's why Klaus was pissed.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's correct.
SPEAKER_06He was like, you I remember all that. Yeah, and you know, and it's coming back to me. That's when my friend was like, mm-mm mm. So meanwhile, after Jeremy fucks everything up, because listen, if he didn't do that and Bonnie couldn't open the thing, then they'd be like, Well, we'll have to find another way. Yeah. Nothing that happens would have happened. Anyway, anyway. So Bonnie comes in with her grimoire. Holding it all like snuggled and like concernicous. And they're like, Where's Jeremy? She's like, He said he'd be here. Anyway. Oh, he was when they're going down there. Um, that's when Damon gets the call from Rose about what Elaine is up to. Because Stefan goes down with Bonnie alone. So he's down in the tomb area with Bonnie and Damon jets.
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_06I don't think he had that conversation with Stefan.
SPEAKER_03No, he just took off.
SPEAKER_06I think he just left.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, he just took off.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And so that's a correct decision. Just take you don't have time to take off.
SPEAKER_06Take off.
SPEAKER_03I'll tell you later.
SPEAKER_06So then they go down and the moonstone's out of the tomb.
unknownYes.
SPEAKER_06And they're like, wait a hey, wait a hot second. And uh then you see Kathy and she brings over Jeremy. She's like, hey, guess what, guys? Yeah. Thanks. I can eat and I can kill him as many times as I want, because it's a fucking handy dandy ring.
unknownBring him back.
SPEAKER_06Do it again. What a great time. Anyway, lift that fucking spell and I'll come out and we'll all be fine. Yep. And we'll all be saved. So, you know, that's great for everybody.
SPEAKER_03Stupid Jeremy.
SPEAKER_06Anyway, Elijah's with Jonas. And he's like, How does the spell work? And Jonas is like, close your eyes.
SPEAKER_03And pulls out all the fucking cells.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, he cuts his hand and then he grabs his hand and then it's like, shut your eyes and then look for her in your mind's eye. You know? And then he does. And then Elena's like looking out the window at Slater's and you see Elijah's reflection in it. And she can see Elijah and she's like, What the fuck? And she looks around and no one's there because Elijah's like there, but not there. And he's like, Oh, I know exactly where she is because I was just there killing Slater. Yep. Great. Fantastic news.
SPEAKER_03And then he's like, I'm on Maui. Going to kill Elena.
unknownBut he's not going to kill Elena.
SPEAKER_06No. So Stefan is like, Well, we have to get fucking Jeremy out of this fucking tomb.
SPEAKER_03Yep. Gotta be a fucking savior for this dumb kid.
SPEAKER_06Like, Bonnie, we gotta, we gotta hurry. We gotta do it. And Bonnie's like, alright, well, I'll just chone channel Luca.
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_06That's what I'll do.
SPEAKER_03He can feel it.
SPEAKER_06Yep, he sure can. He's feeling it. And he's not good about it. No. He's not feeling good about it. And uh the fact that she's just like using someone that's new. I'm like, you want to make a new friend, and this is how you're okay you're hijacking his magic.
SPEAKER_03No consent.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, that's non-consensual magic use. Um, so she's doing meanwhile, um Tyler and Caroline have looked into the journal more and they found a tape, and they're watching Mason very excruciatingly transform very slowly. Because like it's like hours. Hours of transformation. Like an all night. Um, and he's like drinking Wolf Spain because that's like toxic to werewolves, and Tyler is like it's like watching a birthing video before birth. Like, don't you know? If it's like don't watch the bad ones, yeah. Um, and I guess the first turn is probably the worst one because it's your first experience of it. Although I feel like if it's that bad, your second one would feel like more daunting almost because it's like, oh, I don't want to do that again. Um but he's like he's like literally like his sweat, he's like glowing with sweat. Yeah, he's trying to he's like throwing shit. Like, and I know that feeling when your body's hurting and you just want to like grab things and just like chuck them. Like I felt like that was very realistic. Um, the way he acted in that scene. Yeah, I I I thought it was well done. And Tyler was really sad and scared, and that was really and Caroline was concerned, and it was a very emotional moment, and they're connecting in it because she starts talking about because he's like, Why do you even care? And she's like, Well, I was alone when I turned into a vampire. I was alone, and I don't want you to be alone. I killed somebody so casually, yeah. And um, I don't want that to happen to you because he's like, We've never been friends. She's like, I've known you my whole life. He's like, Yeah, we're not friends, like, and it's true, he's been quite the dick, honestly.
SPEAKER_03Big fat dick.
SPEAKER_06Um, he was really rude when she started dating Matt. He was like mean about Caroline, he's not been very supportive of that relationship.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_06And he's, I can't, I think, seeing that she's a really nice girl. Yeah, sure. She's very sweet and compassionate and loving, and she's just, you know, like, hey, we might not have been friends, but I'm gonna be here for you through this because I know what it's like. And I'm a good person. She's just so you know. Anyway, Damon shows up to the Slaters and he's like, What the fuck are you doing here?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and she's like, Well, you told on me?
SPEAKER_06You wouldn't have understood, so I did it, and he's like, Yeah, damn fucking straight. You're an idiot.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and he's right.
SPEAKER_06So he's like, We're getting out of here. Yep. Very upset with you right now.
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_06She's like, no, Damon, I'm not, you can't tell me. You did the nyh.
SPEAKER_03You can't tell me anything. I'm gonna do what I can. And he's just like, Okay, I hear what you're saying. Okay, throw your tantrum later, we're leaving.
SPEAKER_00No, I'm gonna do I could.
SPEAKER_03I can't. She's so fucking annoying.
SPEAKER_06I think I liked both of them in it, and I disliked both of them in it. I had like a very like weighted emotional experience with these scenes.
SPEAKER_03Not I thought she deserved everything.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, because I understood her doing it behind everyone's back.
SPEAKER_03Sure, sure, sure.
SPEAKER_06I understood why she didn't say it.
SPEAKER_01Sure, sure, sure.
SPEAKER_06Um, but I also think that she's very immature in her emotional response. Then with Damon, his reaction because he cares about her, I respect it. He's pissed. He's like, How dare you try to kill yourself?
SPEAKER_03Because she's doing something stupid.
SPEAKER_06This is fucked.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_06And then I was annoyed at like, if I'm like thinking of like, I want to do something, like Stefan wouldn't react like that. Stefan would have been like, I understand what you're doing, but you that this is your life. Like he would explain it in a nice, like a Stefan way that I want to have sex with. So that's you know the difference for me. So I liked both and I didn't like both. Um and I understood both of their points of view in this moment, and I Damon was hot, and I will everyone agrees. Um, so anyway, he he's just like talking about her decision making, and she's like, When do I get to do like my life is fucking chaos? Yeah, like when do I get to do shit? Like, I I don't want everyone to die, so stop, you know, and he's like, I'm gonna, yeah, I'm gonna just I'm getting you, I'll carry you out of here. I'm fucking done, I'm done with this. I'm fucking done with this conversation. And she tries to punch him, like she like goes to like hit him, and he grabs her fist and he's like, Don't ever do that again. Like, no, yeah, and it's just stuff, I'm like, Why are you trying to punch him? That's violent. Yeah, like is it just because he's a vampire that you just like strike at him? Yeah, that was weird, and it felt out of character, honestly. Like, I know she slapped him after Vicky died, but that made sense. That emotional moment made sense to me. This one was out of character to me. I was like, You're just gonna punch Damon now. Oh like it didn't feel yeah, because she's stupid. It didn't feel like Elena, it was weird. Anyway, anyway, uh Jeremy, while he's being eaten by Catherine, is like, stop her! Stop her, she's not strong enough.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_06While she's channeling Jonah, Jonah, not Jonah, not Jonah, Amelia, Luca. And he um is like basically like passing out and her nose is bleeding, and Stefan's like seeing this. He's like, Oh shit, I do have to stop Bonnie. Yeah, so he's like, Hey Bonnie, don't stop, say hey Bonnie, stop, and then she passes out.
SPEAKER_03Sure does.
SPEAKER_06So he didn't have to convince her for much longer because she has passed out. So he's like, Well, problem solved, she's not doing it anymore.
SPEAKER_03And Jonas and his son Luca, and he's like, What's happening? What's going on? He's like, Bonnie is channeling me, and he's just like, What? He's like, You told me to get close to her, make a connection. So that's what I did, and he passes out too, right? Luca passes out too.
SPEAKER_06I think so. Yeah, he has like a reaction. Yeah, and and Catherine's just over there, like, excuse me, I'm still in here. Yep. Love it.
unknownLove it.
SPEAKER_03He's like, Well, while you figure out, we're just gonna I'm gonna keep eating him.
SPEAKER_06So I'm busy, hungry, been in here for a little bit, over it. Um, anyway, so Catherine goes to eat Jeremy again, and Stefan's like, shit. So he goes in there, yeah, pushes Jeremy out, and then Catherine's reaction is one of this is my favorite part.
SPEAKER_02Oh, fine.
SPEAKER_06This is my favorite part, is Catherine's reaction to Stefan being trapped with her.
SPEAKER_07Yep.
SPEAKER_06Like, because he's like frantic, saving Jeremy, standing there like shit, and she's just like looking at it and like blinking and like a smitten kitten. Hi, honey. Yep, you're in here too now. How nice. Yep, hilarious.
SPEAKER_03I agree. It was fantastic.
SPEAKER_06I fucking loved I loved that moment desperately.
SPEAKER_03It was so Catherine, it was so fantastic.
SPEAKER_06Oh god. I and I would honestly same girl. Same, same girl, same girl. I'd be like, Oh, okay, we're we're in here together, that's fine.
SPEAKER_03I'm so happy with this trade-off.
SPEAKER_06I'm gouda. I'm gouda.
SPEAKER_03So gouda.
SPEAKER_06So gouda. Anyway, so Damon's still like, bitch, we gotta go. Um, but you know, um, he's like, I want to end this horribly stupid day. I'm done.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Um, he's like, I'm over it with the Gilberts. Seriously. Um, and then when the guys come in and she's like, it's me, I'm here, I'm ready to go with you. He's like, that's when he's like, I will break your arm.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_06Shut the fuck up, Elena. You're not going with these men that are gonna sacrifice you. Okay, sacrifice. And uh, so then who comes on in? Oh my god, it's uh fucking Elijah's in the doorway. He's like, I killed you. He's like, You're dead. He's like, I have been for centuries now. And I was like, Yes, snap Elijah, you sexy motherfucker with your bad haircut.
SPEAKER_03And Damon's like, Well, okay, so they can't die like that. So good to know, good to know.
SPEAKER_06And then Rose books it.
SPEAKER_03Oh, don't blame her. She says, Skirt, skrr.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, she's like, peace, bitches. I ain't fucking with this. And um, the guys are there, they're like, Oh, Elijah, we're bringing you the doppelganger. And he's like, Oh, great, great. Um, does anyone else to know about the doppelganger being alive? No. And they're like, No, no, just us. And he's like, Great, thanks. And then he pulls both of their hearts out at the same time. It is an iconic Elijah moment. I think it's an iconic moment. It's super hot.
SPEAKER_03And he's just so classy, he drops so many lines.
SPEAKER_06And he's just standing there and then he zips off. And then he leaves.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_06And they're like, and Elena and Elijah and Damon are like, but why?
SPEAKER_02Why?
SPEAKER_06What? And the Jonas, when he's with Elijah later, is like, so you spared Damon. He's like, well, yeah, because he will keep her safe. Uh, Stefan and Damon are gonna keep that girl safe, and that's what we need Elena to be safe. Yeah, and so we know at this moment, Elijah intends to keep Elena alive.
SPEAKER_03Sure does, but we don't know why. I also have to mention the moment when Damon gets there and Alice is like, oh my god, you're Damon Salvatore. Yeah, and he literally's just like, make her go away.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, like stop. Like, she's like, Oh my god. Like he's a celebrity.
SPEAKER_03It was so funny.
SPEAKER_06Because she's so fucking weird about vampire stuff. It's like, he's like, no, what the fuck?
SPEAKER_03Just his response is so oh it's perfect.
SPEAKER_06Make her go away. Yeah, it's so perfect. And she's like, and she's like, as she's being pulled away, like, like, oh my god. So funny. I mean, I in the presence of the insummer holder, one can understand.
SPEAKER_03Yes.
SPEAKER_06Anyway, Bonnie takes Jeremy home, and she's like, he's like, I don't need a babysitter. And she's like, Clearly you do, because I'm not sure there's enough time in the day to do something else super dumb. Yep. You could just keep you keep the dumb situations going on. So I guess someone does have to watch you now dunfe, because now step and be trapped. Yep, and that's because of your decisions. Also, one of the things we discussed that's annoying is whilst Catherine is standing there holding Jeremy right where they can talk to her and see her, why not just throw the he didn't take all the ash, you have ash. Yep. So take the rest of the ash, throw it on her. Bonnie go in, take Jeremy out, you're done. Yep. You're fucking done. That's all you have to do. If you have ash, she's standing there. She's right there. Unless you can only use it once, but that was not specified.
SPEAKER_03No.
SPEAKER_06They didn't say it works one time.
SPEAKER_03No, she's and she mentioned to Stephen that she had more ash.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, so it's like if you have extra, like to me, to me, this seems like a simple solution because Bonnie can go in and not get trapped because she's not a vampire. And get Jeremy, they already have the moon. There's no searching to be done. No vampire has to go in there because you've already got it. Yep, it's already outside of the tomb. So or stake her really quick. She's right there. She's standing right there. They're at the end, they're at the doorway of the tomb. They're not, she's not like shouting at them from another area where they can't get to her. It's very obnoxious, and I'm annoyed.
SPEAKER_03Couldn't she have like done that thing with the brain to like give her an aneurysm? Oh, like an aneurysm over and over again, and be like, oh, Jeremy could come out.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, oh my god, there's so many solutions to this problem that Stefan didn't have to be in there. And I realized they needed it to do it because of the writing. Yeah. But in the end of the day, it's Jeremy's fault.
SPEAKER_03And I blame you. It's 100% Jeremy's fault, and I blame Jeremy as well.
SPEAKER_06And Jeremy's like, because she's like, Jeremy, like, what the fuck? You know, and he's like, Well, you shouldn't have tried to do that. Like, it's to me. I'm like, you're so you're blaming this on Bonnie. You're trying to switch up your dumb ass decision. I get that you wanted to protect her, but what happened would have happened anyway. She would have attempted it, passed out, and it then they would have been like, oh, well, guess we have to find another way.
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_06Like, that's what would have happened anyway, except now Stefan's trapped.
SPEAKER_02You idiot.
SPEAKER_06So I'm annoyed at that. Everybody's annoyed, everybody's frustrated. And that is my point there. Anyway, he's like basically like really into her, and she's like, You can't feel that way about me. And he's like, Don't act like this is one-sided.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, like I'm not this isn't some kid brother who's got a crush on his older sister's friend. Like, don't act like this, she's sh me me.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, sh me, sh me, sh me, sh me, sh me.
SPEAKER_03It's just like she clearly has a boner for Jonah. Or what's his name? Luca. Like, weird ass goat motherfucker.
SPEAKER_06It's because they have a witch connection.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, whatever. Yeah. Um, but she definitely does. There's a she definitely has feelings for Jeremy. Oh, for sure. And so, and like, did she put his is that the finger?
SPEAKER_06That happened, yeah. Before the ash burning, I think. Or after. It was during that. It was too much. Yeah, it's very sexually coded. Yes. Um, and he's not wrong. Yeah, like don't pretend like yes, don't pretend this is one side. Yes, like we're not. Clearly, not, you know.
SPEAKER_03Um, but it doesn't give you the right to tell her what to do and make decisions for her and blame her for this because you're an idiot.
SPEAKER_06Sure doesn't. Uh so Damon's stupid boy. Damon brings Elena home, and um they're discussing Elijah and like why they think that he did what he did and left. They're confused. Um and he's upset with her and kind of just like, you know, what you did today is stupid. And she's like, no, just getting caught. Just getting caught. That's what sucks. And um he's like, Well, no. You're just stupid. No kidding. Yeah. But to me, I mean, I I I get it. Like, if she didn't get caught, her plan would happen and then it would be over.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Although technically Elijah would have just done what Elijah did anyway. And she'd be like, Wait, yeah, what?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Uh, without Damon interfering at all. What would have happened would have happened. And she would be just as confused as she is now.
SPEAKER_03Because he says, Elijah says at some point that those boys won't let anything happen to her. Like he she's protected because of Damon's.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, because of Damon and Stefan. And and like she does the point I was making in the beginning is she's like, everyone always wants to save my life. Why would it shock anyone that I would do the same for all of you?
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_06But you guys won't let me because you want to save me, and I want to save you. And everybody's trying to save each other.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_06And we should all just come together and discuss it.
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_06You know? Uh, anyway, so you know, uh, Jeremy and uh they're like, hey, okay, guys, um something something happened in the tomb. And then you just get Elena running into the tomb, Stefan, Stefan, Stefan, Stefan. And then you just see you see Damon coming after her and like kind of pin her on the rock area, and then Stefan's like, you just kind of watch Stefan listening to them fight about she's like, How is any of this the right call? How is any of this okay? She's freaking out because Stefan's trapped in the tomb with Catherine, rightfully so. And you just see the hurt on Stefan as he's listening to listening to them talk, and he doesn't come out to see Elena, and Elena's like freaking out, and Damon's like, You gotta go, like basically like leave. And so Elena ends up leaving, and Damon's standing there. So that's when Stefan decides to come out, and he's just like, I need you to keep Elena away from here. I need you to just keep her away and and protect her. Just keep just just promise, be there for her, promise me. And Damon's like, Yeah, obviously, duh. Because I also love her, so no problem, no problem.
SPEAKER_03And good old Catherine throws in her little uh zinger.
SPEAKER_06She's like, That's the biggest mistake you've ever made. And uh, because she's like, You're just bringing you're bringing them to closer together there, Stefan. But he's like, Well, I need her safe and I know he'll do it, and he can. So that that makes sense. And I understand to an extent, like I feel like you should come out and talk to her, Stefan, but I understand that he's hurting and he's just like she I'm trapped here for maybe forever. So just let her move on and keep her safe and let me be down here. I'll deal with it.
SPEAKER_03She's what it's like. She's doing it out though.
SPEAKER_06She can, but Catherine.
SPEAKER_03That's fine. Yeah, she's whatever. Damon will not or Damon, Stefan will break her neck or something, and they can have some time together. She'll wake up.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, but he's like, I could, you know, he's like basically like I could die in here, I could desiccate, and um is what he's thinking, I'm assuming. And he's just like, she can't, this is it for me, probably. Because I mean, Catherine, the first time that they she was supposedly in there was 145 years, right? So in his mind, it makes sense that he's like, Yeah, I'm booked.
SPEAKER_03Especially just watching Bonnie try to lift it. He doesn't think that's I don't know. That's the witch he knows. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06I'm stuck in here, that's not going down. That happened. So I just need Elena to move on and not stand here and pine for me for her whole life. Yeah, just like move, go away. I'll deal with this. It is what it is. And he's martyring, but I don't mind when he does it because he can do whatever the fuck he wants. He's perfect. So yep. Uh, and that's the end of the episode.
SPEAKER_03Guys, it's a great one. Second. Pretty good. Uh Elena's fucking annoying.
SPEAKER_06Oh, I know. You you felt that deeply. Deeply, deep in the sauce of annoying.
SPEAKER_03Guys, but we have a big milestone. Did we hit 200 Stephans?
SPEAKER_06We did, and we hit 200 Stephans before we hit 100 Damons, but we did in fact break 100 Damons, but we did hit 200 first on the Stephens. I kept track of that.
SPEAKER_02I knew it.
SPEAKER_06We got seven Stephans and seven Damons. Oh wow. Equaled out in this episode, and we got 205 total Stephens so far and 103 total daemons. Yeah, Stephans uh Stefan's uh over, yeah, he's doubled it. Taking the lead for sure. Yeah, he's basically doubled it. He is out, he's one away from fully doubling it.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah, he's uh out in the lead for sure.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, she's she'd be saying that name, but so do I. I'd be saying it. Yeah, I'd be saying it as much as I can.
SPEAKER_03Absolutely gorgeous. It's just another episode closer to getting to see our man Cloud.
SPEAKER_06Oh my god, I know. I love that we get to talk about him now and that he's part of the story.
SPEAKER_03So good.
SPEAKER_06It brings me quite a bit of joy.
SPEAKER_03He brings me joy.
SPEAKER_06Brings me joy in myself, in my stuff.
SPEAKER_03So we know your favorite part.
SPEAKER_06We do, I think. And then my my least favorite part is probably the leaves thing, the the blowing of the leaves. I was like, this is lame. This is no, this is lame. Yeah and that's how I feel about that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_06So that was probably my least favorite part. And and honestly, also like the whole like you guys could figure out another way besides pushing Stefan into the tomb here. Yeah, there's so many other options that, but you know, sometimes in the heat of the moment, you're not thinking about your options, you're just freaking out. Yeah, that is also a thing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_06So I'll excuse it. I've I've I've talked myself through it within this hour. I've talked myself through it. Um we circled back. We circled back. We found a way to compromise and you know, concede our feelings. Uh so yeah, I think the leaves. What about what's your favorite and least favorite?
SPEAKER_03Um, I'm gonna go for I really do love the um the look she gave him. It's fantastic. Uh, but I really liked the what Damon said. Make her go away. Make her go away. It's so good. Good. It's so good. And then Lisa's probably uh it's a toss-up. Lisa's just Jeremy and Elena this episode. Gerald is Jeremy and Elena. The Gilberts. Them collectively this episode was so rough for me. Yeah, I get that. So annoying and so frustrating.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, they cost a lot of hard times for everybody.
SPEAKER_03Just uh nonsense. And just the white.
SPEAKER_06So much nonsense was happening. It's all nonsense.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, they both really bothered me this episode. So they're my least favorite. I really enjoyed Damon's stuff, and though they were fantastic.
SPEAKER_06Well, they're always fantastic, those Salvatore brothers. Well, I mean, we bitch about Damon, but we still love him.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Uh, so that's that's that. That's a wrap until next week.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god, you guys are getting so much closer.
SPEAKER_06I know I'm so excited to meet Klaus and learn more about him.
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