Episode 29: Sciatic Pain Healed w/Aaron Washburn

The Heart of the Conversation

In this episode, I sit down with Aaron Washburn, a hypnotist and emotional decoding expert, to explore the profound connection between our physical pain and our suppressed emotions. Aaron shares his incredible journey of healing a decade of "excruciating" sciatic pain by tracing it back to the grief and trauma of losing his mother. We delve into how the nervous system "closes the circuit" on pain once we finally give ourselves permission to feel what we’ve been avoiding.

In this transmission, we explore:

• The Anatomy of a "Body Translation"
• The Power of Staying Still
• Rewriting the Recording: A look at the Emotional Mapping Technique (EMT) 
• Practical Self-Regulation

Time Stamps:

• 00:00:05: Teaser: Aaron Washburn shares his personal experience of sciatic pain disappearing after 10 years, leading to his discovery.
• 00:01:04: Elisha introduces Aaron Washburn 
• 00:02:52: Aaron explains his work 
• 00:04:27: Aaron describes EMT's core process
• 00:08:42: Aaron recounts his mother's lung cancer diagnosis 
• 00:13:25: He describes a profound emotional breakthrough 
• 00:15:17: This emotional release led to the immediate disappearance of his physical pain and depression.
• 00:17:19: Aaron explains how he developed EMT 
• 00:21:23: He details EMT as a three-step process
• 00:26:34: Aaron shares a client's success story 
• 00:36:16: Aaron highlights transmuting emotions 
• 00:46:47: Where to find Aaron and his offerings
• 00:48:48: Aaron's concluding wisdom and show conclusion

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Uh, my shatic pain went away after 10 years. I was just walking around. I was just like, I completely forgot the pain was there, but as I was walking around, maybe like three, four weeks later, I realized that the sciatic pain's gone. I haven't had any pain putting my socks on or any pain um getting up or out of the bed. It was it was excruciating.

SPEAKER_01 0:26

Hello and welcome to That's Just Human, a podcast that explores all aspects of being human, living in a human body, and dealing with life's obstacles. I'm Elisha Light Angel, your host, and by day I'm a massage therapist. But like you, I also happen to live in a human body and have a plethora of human experiences, and I like to chat about all of it. Today I'm really excited to be bringing on a special guest. We met in a Facebook podcasting group, and he stood out because of what he does and how he really helps people transform lives. And I'm super excited to get to hear more about his story and what he does, and how he can help any of you out there that might be looking. So please join me in welcoming to the show Aaron Washburn. He is a hypnotist, an emotional decoding expert, and the creator of Emotional Mapping Technique, which is a healing system that reveals what your body's trying to tell you through pain and tension. So what he does is he helps people to reverse engineer all of the physical symptoms back into energy and motion. And he helps clients release years of pain in a single session. Amazing. His work bridges neuroscience, language, and spirituality to help connect people with the version of themselves that they were before the world taught them who they need to be or should be. So thank you for coming on the show, Erin.

SPEAKER_00 2:13

Yeah, thank you so much. I'm really excited to be here.

SPEAKER_01 2:15

Me too. So let's start with a little bit about what you do and kind of what that is a little bit deeper, and then we'll go into some more questions and they'll come to me as we chat.

SPEAKER_00 2:32

Amazing. Thank you. Yeah, so everything that I do, uh it all really started about five years ago. And uh I had experienced side of the pain on both sides of my body for for about 10 years, I believe. And I just came across what most people I think would call inner child healing, and it kind of just came to me intuitively. I didn't know that world existed. Uh, and I'll share more about that story as well. But it allowed me to receive some of the sacred knowledge that's out there that has been forgotten. And so I was introduced to body language translations first, and then over time, as I started practicing that within myself, I was also introduced to hypnosis, which we're all aware of. I feel that. And as I was learning hypnosis, as I was learning body language translations at the same time, I started to understand how the mind and how the body can work as a unit versus compartmentalizing it all. And as soon as I started learning that you can both work with the mind and body at the same time, I started seeing huge transformations with every client that I was working with. And then even within myself. Um, when I intuitively did that for myself before I learned that uh my sciatic pain went away after 10 years. I was just walking around. I was just like, I completely forgot the pain was there. But as I was walking around, maybe like three, four weeks later, I realized that the sciatic pain's gone. I haven't had any pain putting my socks on or any pain um getting up or out of the bed. It was it was excruciating. Uh so the work that I do really came from uh learning body language translations, translating the physical symptoms in the body emotionally, so that way we can allow ourselves to feel them. And at the same time, as we feel them, memories or a version of ourselves in our mind that represents that feeling uh will come up from that feeling in our mind. So we take care of what's in our mind, take care of the emotions in the body as a unit together, then it allows that transformation to happen to tell the nervous system, hey, uh, we can close the circuit now. We don't need this um physical symptom anymore. It doesn't serve us anymore. So here's a new way to transmute this feeling versus it being physical.

SPEAKER_01 5:00

I really like that. And I like uh that you're talking to the nervous system because as a massage therapist, I'm highly familiar with sciatic pain, not just from people that have come and see me on a frequent basis that are experiencing it, but I've also experienced it myself. And so obviously, my tools have been a lot more physical in the body. Um, so I, you know, if I'm working on somebody, I'm you know, pressing on muscles or pressing on this area. But as a massage therapist, people think we just go in and beat you up. But we actually have to work with your nervous system to help it to let go, or the muscles are just going to stay tense. So it's it's also part of that process. But we're not going in like you are and asking, you know, what emotion comes up when I'm pressing on this area. Although I'm highly interested on, you know, what would happen if you could take what I do physically and then like what you do emotionally and mentally and combine them and what kind of amazing experiences and transformations that a person could have. So the fact that you healed sciatic pain just using this is phenomenal. Did you try anything else prior to coming into this to combat that that didn't work for you?

SPEAKER_00 6:27

Yeah, I did try some pure, I believe it was a puriformist stretches to stretch that area or the psoas muscle. And I remember, I think a physical therapist told me one time to put a golf ball in that area, and it was very painful, of course. Uh but it gave it some relief for maybe like 20 minutes and it just started coming back. And I realized the moments that did come back were the moments where I was thinking of my mom, um, which I'm gonna really go into my story there. When I was thinking of my mom, or any moments that were like highly stressed while I would think of my mom, the um the muscles in those areas would tense up and start pressing up against my static nerve. And so everything that I tried to stretch, uh massage it, specifically in the area as well, uh, none of it was uh benefiting me for a long-term way.

SPEAKER_01 7:22

Wow, what great body awareness and mental awareness to associate those two together. Let's delve a little deeper into your story and what this journey that kind of even led you into learning about the existence of connecting emotions to the body, because I'm sure you didn't start out that way.

SPEAKER_00 7:45

No, yeah, absolutely not. I definitely don't have the awareness that I do now. Took me about 12 years. Yeah, it uh all this really started when it was in 2012, but I'll go maybe three years before that as well. I was uh I was in high school during that time. It was only 16 years old. After school, there's one day after school where I went home, and as I went home, my parents were in the back, and for some reason they don't often do this, but they called me to the back of the room. And as I went into the apartment and inside the inside the apartment, I just got this weird energy, energy I haven't felt before. But I walked to the back, my mom was in the bathroom, my dad was to the left of me, and this is where it all started was um when they gave me some very significant news that I didn't realize what it really was at 16, but my mom ended up telling me after about five minutes of silence. She said, um, or actually my mom didn't tell me my dad, my dad said that your mom has been diagnosed with lung cancer. So as soon as she shared that with me, or he shared that with me, I just kind of see the sadness in my mom's face. And then everything went inaudible after that. It was just they were talking, but I kind of walked away, sat on the bed. I didn't really know what lung cancer was during that time, but I just felt like it was bad. Felt like maybe death was coming. So for a couple months after that, I started seeing the significance of being diagnosed with lung cancer. My mom was going through the three stages of it. She went, I could just see her body just deteriorating and like giving up. So she went from one of those canes to a walker to a wheelchair, and she was fighting it. So she went back to a um a walker and back to the king, but she just couldn't keep fighting it. So eventually she just stayed within that wheelchair. And then fast forward, there was a um a night before um this significant day came. Uh she just asked, I had my little brother there, my dad there, and my grandma there. And my older brother was in the military in boot camp, and she was trying to um stay alive until my older brother came back from boot camp so she can see him. So I could tell that she was, but there's one night where she asked all of us to um give her a hug. And at this point, her whole left side was just numb. And you can hear her gargling in the throat for whatever that lung cancer was. And um, for some somehow, she was able to lift her left arm up and give each one of us a hug. That hug also felt different. It felt like um this was like a goodbye hug, especially with all that willpower that that she had to be able to lift that arm up. So she gave my little brother a hug, gave me a hug, gave my dad a hug, give my grandma a hug. And then like the next day, she just she was basically checked out. Like the next day. And I was 17 years old at this time. Look into her eyes, her eyes were rolled up. Basically, the only thing that was keeping her alive was the oxygen take. And I actually didn't know this until like two years ago, but my dad wasn't able to do it. Um, and he knew that it was time for my mom to go. So my dad actually asked me to pull my mom's plug, and it was a very like vivid memory, or not vivid, it was like a memory that I suppressed for a long time. But I ended up pulling the plug, came back, sat at the end of the bed, and I just just watched my mom take her last couple of breaths, and then eventually her chest stopped rising, and she was yeah, just felt I really felt like her soul or her spirit just left her body. So in that moment, it was weird because I didn't cry, and I always felt that I was always a bad son for that. But I had to call my uncle after that to tell my family that she passed. So in that moment from 2012, just fast-forwarding from there too. From 2012, my dad uh, after she passed, ended up moving to these different states. But between that time from 2012 to 2020, I was just in this deep state of depression. And I remember after she passed, I had like this like deep pain of sciatica. I didn't know what it was. It's just painful shooting down my leg for the longest time. From 2012 to 2020, I had that deep pain. And then through that time, I was also very depressed, I was very angry, and uh, I was trying to work out to feel better. It was an outlet for me. But through those through 2012, 2030 20, when was that eight years, I believe. Um I there was a point where on the eighth year in 2020, doing the same thing for so many years, nothing was helping. For some reason in 2020, um, I heard this voice in my head just say, stay still because I was going through a lot of pain. I was slowly getting outside of my depression. The depression hit me again, and I tried to work out to feel better, nothing was working on that same day. So that same day of trying all my old habits, all of the old things I used to do to try to feel better. Something said, Stay still in 2020. I'm like, okay. So I closed my eyes, and then I finally felt like these feelings come up in my body because I was also numb for those eight years. These feelings came up in my body like a tsunami just hit me hard. And then all of a sudden, as it hit me, I was just bawling, I was crying, I was sitting in silence, but just crying. And then that's where the memory came up in my head. But this time it was a different way of seeing this memory. So when I closed my eyes, or as my eyes were closed, I saw my 17-year-old self see uh witnessing my mom pass away again. And it was interesting because I intuitively just walked up to that version of myself. And then it was like he he turned around and looked at me. So I was able to see his eyes, which was my eyes, and I was able to see that he was looking sad, lonely, painful, confused, all those emotions. And automatically I said out loud to him, you're allowed to feel sad, you're allowed to feel this pain, you're allowed to feel lonely, you're allowed to feel confused. I was validating those feelings for that version of myself. And for some reason, I just wanted to give myself a hug. So I gave myself a hug. And during that time, just what was coming out of me, I just felt like everything I needed to hear from my dad during that time, I was telling him that to myself. Because my dad wasn't able to when my mom was passing, he was watching his wife pass. So I said, none of this is your fault. It's okay to feel these feelings. It's it's um you're allowed to feel this, and we're gonna get through this. Everything I needed to hear, and then as soon as I was saying that, I just felt this relief wash over my body, just a lot of relief. So I eventually um released a hug and I looked into my eyes, and my eyes they looked different, they looked more heard, they more seen, more loved, much more relief. And then we both were like looking at my mom and just gave her a kiss on the forehead and just told her we're gonna be okay. And gave her a hug, gave myself a hug, and I kind of just opened my eyes from there. And when I opened my eyes, I just felt like all this depression that was depressing down for so long had finally had some release of the grief, the anger, the confusion, everything that I felt during that time. And I just opened my eyes, it felt like to a whole new world. And after a couple days went by, this is where we catch up to what I was sharing earlier. I was a couple days or a couple weeks. I was just I felt like I was high off of life. And I started realizing that the pain that I was feeling for those eight years, it was gone. It was gone. I was like, what's going on here? And I can play football again. I really love football. And uh then I was like, I have to figure out what I did here. I have to figure out what I did here. So I just kept saying that I'm going to find out what I did here, I'm gonna get certified in whatever it is. And during that time, I had an online fitness program for nurses, and and for these nurses, I was sharing with them what I experienced, and my mom was a nurse as well. And from what I experienced, and then I was telling them, if you're open for me to um try this on you, then we can kind of see what comes up from it. So I had nurses that had knee pain, back pain, and we went through what I went through in my mind, and that their knee pain started going away, their back pain started going away. I was like, There's something here, and then eventually I um had a friend that uh was hosting a podcast, and in that podcast, there's this his this man, his name is Brian Johnson, he was teaching about body language translations, and then I was hearing him like he's talking about sciatica. I believe he was talking about sciatica, and it clicked for me. I'm like, this sounds like what I was going through, and then I started studying Brian Johnson's work, which is body language translations. Um, and as as I was starting that, learning that I was applying it with my nurses, and then uh the guy that was hosting that podcast was also a hypnotist as well. So then I started learning his work, and then I started pairing that up together because there's moments when I was working with these nurses and I was able to help relieve the pain that they're experiencing, but sometimes it would come back. So then as I was learning hypnosis, I was learning about the mind. So every time it came back for them, it was also bringing back a memory, the same way my memory came from with my mom. So that memory also needed to be taken care of as I was helping them regulate the feelings in their body, translating their physical symptoms. So after doing those two together, um it was like long-lasting for them until some new changes come up in their life. And I just dedicated my work for the since 2020, just learning body language translations, hypnosis, and then learning the emotions inside of the body, which Washen led me to this moment right here, talking with you. Um, and through that whole experience, I realized that all this all this work of doing this, it really does feel like the sacred knowledge is just helping us remember, yeah, who we are and um the power of our mind and body when we know how to use it as a tool it's supposed to be used as. So that's my story. Hopefully I didn't take too long there, but thank you for letting me share that. It's been a long time since I shared it.

SPEAKER_01 18:47

Wow, you didn't take too long at all. That is quite incredible. I definitely I teared up, but I didn't cry. Yeah, very powerful that you have come across these. So before you had this moment where you just heard this voice to tell you to slow down, had you experienced meditation before?

SPEAKER_00 19:06

I think um that's probably what it was. I think about a month ago, I did a Joe Dispenza meditation. And the reason why I came across that was because I hired a mentor to teach me how to run my online fitness program. And he had a friend that he was sharing about a story where um everyone was going to lunch, but his friend told him he I can't go to lunch right now. I didn't meditate. I have to meditate before I go. I'm like, if this is if I want to be successful like him and he wants to meditate and really holds on to that practice, I should try that. I didn't know the outcome, what the outcome would be. And um, so I ended up finding Joda spending his meditation and meditated for about an hour. And I just like cleared my mind, cleared my thoughts, and I was half a life for like a week. And then that's then that missing piece that I didn't tell you is where I got hit with depression again. I was like, what the heck? Um, so as I got hit with depression again, that's when I started realizing there's a new, new pattern that was coming up for me. Where then I heard that voice say, Stay still. So I believe it was that meditation that led me to um that moment of saying, hearing stay still. And that's where I had my spiritual awakening right there.

SPEAKER_01 20:15

Wow, that is so incredible. And what amazing results that you've had, not only in your own life, but for the people that you've been able to help, it sounds like. And that's really incredible too. And I think the world needs way more of that. Um, and I and I think we're in a time too where we are learning how much the mind-body connection is pivotal to our healing because we've been treating parts of us for so many years, and we're a whole being. So when you're ignoring the other parts, it's not encompassing everything that's whole about you. And um, so I'm really interested that you've learned hypnosis and then this body language um technique, and then now you've created your own emotional mapping technique. So can you explain a little bit about that and kind of how that works for people?

SPEAKER_00 21:18

Yeah, absolutely. Uh the emotional mapping technique, the emotion part, I started, I think I heard this quote where with the emotions, emotions are energy in motion. So we're able to um find out where energy is not in motion within the body, being physical tension that people experience, pain that people experience, and even going as beyond as disease that people experience in their body or dis-ease. And then being able to bring that energy back into motion, emotions to be able to feel through them, which then um uh reverse engineers that process of how it was created. So emotional mapping. Technique is energy and motion and then mapping out where in the body that they feel that tension, tightness, or where in the body where they're experiencing that dis ease, disharmony that they're experiencing in their body. So we're able to map out where at in the body and how to translate that, and then go through the whole process. I call it a three-step process in the mind, body, and then being able to bring them into a new place in their mind. And then when you bring them to a new place in their mind from that memory, then in the body also feels at peace. So then we just completely um reframe that memory, transmuted the energy inside the body, and then it's a whole new nervous system. And there's this quote by Dr. David Snyder. He said that this is some of these quotes are really foundation to all this work, is he said, it's not our past experiences or trauma that made us who we are today, it's how we recorded them, the past experiences or the trauma that uh made us who we are today. So when you change the recording, it changes your personality, which then changes your personality. That last part was Joe Dispenser, so I just paired up those two quotes. And uh with emotional mapping technique, we're we're able to identify the feelings inside the body, hold space for those feelings using conscious language to start feeling them. And then as we start to feel them, we go into trance because every emotion, every highly emotional state that we're in, we go into trance. That's what hypnosis is. We go into trance, we go back to a version of ourself in our past in our adult body right now. So we're literally in trance back in the past. The memory will bring up from what we're feeling in the body. Either the memory will be brought up or a version of themselves in their mind that represents that feeling in their body. And then we're able to close our eyes and then walk up to that version of ourselves the same way that I did with my mom and give them everything that they need. And then uh, there's a lot of times where we can have dialogue with that version of ourselves where we can ask them, would you like to stay here or would you like to go somewhere new, somewhere peaceful? And a lot of the times, 99% of the time, they would say, I want to go somewhere new from that memory, because that memory could be traumatic. So we take that version of them and then bring them to a new peaceful place that they love, could be the beach, wherever it is, and then be able to still have that inner dialogue with them and take care of them in that area. And then from that moment, uh, the whole nervous system is regulated, the memory is already shifted. So when they open their eyes, whatever pain that they're experiencing in their body, uh their their mind, because they're back in rest and digest, we can talk about science behind this too, because they're back in rest and digest, their the chemicals released into the body will be more of that serotonin, the feel-good hormones, more of the endorphins, which is like 50 times more powerful than opioids to really help heal the body. Then, of course, melatonin. And the best part, too, that I always find is oxytocin released into the body, which helps create more neuroplasticity, which then helps create more neural new neural pathways that serve us. So, long story short, with EMT, what we do with EMT is um we bring someone from fight flight freeze, which anyone that has any physical symptoms in the body that they experience, they're in fight flight freeze. And then by regulating those emotions, understanding where they're at in the body and translating and then regulating, um, we then move them back to rest and digest. The longer they're in rest and digest, which they can't be 24-7, but the longer they allow themselves to go and rest and adjust, the more healing happens in their body. And that's um how we use EMT.

SPEAKER_01 25:32

That's really cool. Um, so when somebody does a session, is it usually like a one-off session, or do they need a series of different sessions to help um really get the results, or does that depend on the amount of trauma that the person has been through?

SPEAKER_00 25:48

Really great question. The last part you said it does depend on the amount of trauma that they've been through. And now there are some cases where we take one traumatic event and it can take care of like five other traumatic events that are correlated to that. So a lot of times in the beginning, I was only doing two to four sessions. I took a lot of pride in fast transformational work. And then after that, they would always message me because um, another quote that Dr. David Snyder says, he said, Everything starts and ends with the feelings, why not start there? So when we took care of those feelings and um uh they started finding relief in the physical body, they they have a whole new nervous system now where they are finding it hard to respond versus react. So I had a client that she was um feeling anger for most of her life, and there's a moment where she had an event that used to trigger the anger, but she just felt like she was numb. So she messaged me and she's like, I don't feel anger anymore. I know that was a work we're still doing, um, but is this normal? That's how fast it was for her. Like, is it normal for me not to feel anger? And then how do I respond to this? So um, between those two or four sessions, after that, I realized that they just um needed some mentorship and on responding to these events in new ways, and they just need guidance because even after the crazy thing is after that transformation of work, they go through it in their lives like their whole life is falling apart after taking care of these traumatic events that ended up showing physically in their body. The reason why they go through it is because the old the new world will cost you the old world. So then that's where that question is um, does it is it uh related to how many, how much of the traumatic events they experienced in the past? It's because after they start feeling uh more elated and more better feelings, uh their other past experiences will start to come up. And as they start to come up, other tension tightness starts to come up in their body. Because now they're becoming so aware, which is three levels of healing here. So level one is awareness, level two is emotional regulation, level three is emotional mastery or self-mastery. So as I go through those first two to four sessions, then um the old world starts to fall apart, more triggers start to come out because um those triggers are giving us the opportunity to hear, seeing love that past version of themselves, so they're ready. So that's the old world. The old world that falls apart, that falls apart is more of the triggers that come up for us to take care of. And then that's when it eventually goes into around like four to eight to twelve sessions. Usually by the 12th session session, depending on even if they had a lot of traumatic experiences of the past, um, they they're much more like their physical body is good, like the pain um does go away, but now it's the emotions that are like to the surface now. They're like they feel ready to explore those emotions or subconscious, like here's more, here's more, here's more, here's more, since we kind of opened the vault. And uh, feel like in a lot of society right now, not a lot of us are aware and know how to feel those emotions. So when we tap into those emotions again, each emotion that we tap into um brings up more for them to heal through. That makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 29:13

Yeah, that does make sense. Um, so what's a typical turnaround? Like um people see you maybe once a month or so, because I know you said with your own healing, you felt after one meditation you were like elated for a whole week, and then that after that week that kind of wore off, and then you felt some of the depression come back. So is there a normal or average turnaround that you've noticed for people that they the sessions are timed out?

SPEAKER_00 29:44

Yeah, and only have um sessions once a week under about an hour. And when we let's say that's knee pain, um actually no, let's say it's migraines. I had a client that had 17 years of migraines, and uh, we had one session together. When we went through that session, I was asking her questions that would bring up the emotions in the body, and then um we started going through phase two, which is I give myself permission to feel whatever the migraine was experiencing. So with migraines, uh, the translations to that can be um painful thoughts, painful memories, um, thoughts that create tension in the body, especially in the in the shoulders, that can hold down this area and cause tension headaches. And in those moments when she was allowing herself to feel these painful thoughts that were coming up, and then we check in with the heart. The heart was letting her know there's um a lot of pain there. So I give myself permission to feel this pain in my body, and it's okay. It brought her back to a memory where um she was young, of course, and then she was um, I'm not gonna go into detail, but something traumatic happened to her. So she ended up taking herself to the bath. We just washed her up and cleaned her up and gave her everything that she needed during that time. And after that, after that session, after she went through that, um she also brought herself to this very sunny, grassy area. There's a lot of times where it feels like I start taking these memories in a good way. Um, but she brought her there, and after that session, she no longer had migraines anymore. Uh and however, the migraines did go away and she'd feel like elated, and then other emotions start to come up that were similar to uh what she felt to help relieve the migraine. And a lot of times when um people are on their spiritual journey or their healing journey, because that pain, the emotion of pain, could be hurt. Let's say that we took care of hurt for that migraine and hurt came back up two weeks later. It's not that we go backwards, we never go backwards in this work, we only continue moving forward. We're just getting to another layer of where that hurt is coming from, from another part of their past that is ready to be seen, heard, and loved. So um, each time that we experience one emotion or two or even multiple, we're just going through different layers and then different layers. And as we clear up those different layers that might be associated to even deeper layers, um what happens is they start to have a new emotional baseline. So someone's emotional baseline before, let's say, before she came to me for the migraines, her emotional baseline was just feeling betrayed, um, um uh um angry or or or sadness that she's experienced. And after she went through that, it was more of um neutral and a little bit more happiness, and then feeling elated for that week. And then after that, that's where these moments will, the old world will start to fall apart, and then more triggers will come up. And then um, I guess with that turnaround that they would experience is a turnaround of different layers of the emotions that are ready to be felt.

SPEAKER_01 32:51

That's really neat. Still, I'm really, really wowed by this and what you can do. So when people are obviously this is um, you know, reprogramming the brain, reprogramming the nervous system all within one session. Do you have different techniques or I would say maybe coping mechanisms or something that you give people to take away with them that they can use when a triggering situation comes up?

SPEAKER_00 33:21

Absolutely. So there's a system called Abra that my body language coach uh created, Brian Johnson. And uh Abra is just uh the conscious language that we use is I give myself permission. So as they're starting to, especially after the first session, when they start to allow themselves to feel again, it can feel weird at first because a lot of them don't have not felt their all of their emotions in their past for so long. So after uh the session, I give them a PDF and a series of videos that they can watch for each emotion: sorrow, sadness, grief, frustration, resentment, anger, um, burdens, and then fear and anxiety is mostly what's felt. So, and then it's also like teaching them where they show up in the body as well. And so after the session, they'll have this, and they also have it in my school platform too, where all the courses are, where if they're feeling tension here, and this is where the translations come in, if they feel the tension here, they may be feeling sorrow, sadness, and grief. If it's in the chest and the stomach, which most people feel fear and anxiety show up there, then that's where um they will know fear and anxiety shows up there. There's tension in the back, anger, frustration, resentment, burdens can show up there. So they have these lists of okay, now that I've identified where it feels at in my body, because sometimes people don't even know what they're feeling. So finding those areas of tension will help them identify what they're feeling, and then they can go into the process to regulate those feelings. And as everyone can first start out with if someone's feeling tension here in the throat, um, they can start saying through that process, I give myself permission to feel any sorrow, sadness, and grief in my body, and it's okay. Now, the more specific we are, the more feeling we feel, and the more we start to regulate. So, sadness about what? I give myself permission to feel sadness about my mom passing away in 2012, and it's okay. So we allow ourselves to feel them, and as we continue to feel them more, we then familiarize with them more. So as we familiarize with these emotions more, we then more, we have more control over them versus it having control over us. So we go through those same thing. I give myself permission to feel sadness if it's there or if it's in the chest, I give myself permission to feel fear and anxiety in my chest, uh in my heart, and it's okay. And we just go through each one. So as they do that, then they start to become more familiar with their body and the emotions in their body. And then on the next session, they just they're just like an open book because they're they connected so much with those feelings that if there's less resistance and sharing maybe their deepest, darkest secrets that they never shared before, that's causing those physical pain in the body. So now we just drop resistance, it allows them to become more mastery in their emotions. And um, as they continue doing that, once they get so good at it, because when you transmute these emotions in your body, remember emotions are energy motion, you're able to feel much better. And when you feel much better, you can do more. Not only that, but emotions are also your vibrational state as well. So now their vibrational state is much higher. And as their vibrational state is much higher, let's say that their vibrational state, emotional state is happiness. It's really hard to experience pain when you're happy. So, because when you're happy, uh there's a physical and chemical response to that. No, I'm going a little bit deeper here, but uh you start when you feel happy, you start releasing more serotonin in the body, you start releasing more endorphins in the body. So it's really hard to experience this physical tension and pain in the body because even as that's being released into the body, the muscles will start to relax as well, right? Because you're going in rest and digest, you're not always in fight-flight freeze expecting threat to hit you and you absorbing it where you're you're tense up, you're tense because you're trying to absorb that threat that may not even exist. So going through the emotions over time regulates the body so much that you're starting to releasing these hormones into your body that what your body needs. And at the same time, um if you think about it in the vibrationally, you can't have this pain that this pain is experienced with emotional pain as well when you're feeling happy. They're not in alignment with each other. So the body will start to heal itself because the pain can't resonate with a happier emotional state. Even if someone says they're happy, somewhere deep inside them, they're carrying some energy there from past experience. And that pain is just like signaling to us, hey, there's something here. It's just like a um the dashboard inside the car when it starts to go off, like check engine light on the our physical body is the same way, letting us know what's going on underneath the hood. So those are the tools that I give them in the beginning. And there's much more tools, but that was the biggest tool for them to go through that process. I give myself permission to feel, and then I choose to love my sadness into my joy. Um, so when they start to choose to love, love is a great way to transmute the energy, emotion into um joy. So every negative feeling that we feel, there's always a return of a positive feeling when we feel it. So joy will return back to you, faith, courage, discernment will return back to you. Sometimes forgiveness and compassion and letting go will or return back to you. So as they start to feel that and to get better at it, physical pain will show up in their body, tension will show up in their body, and because they're at a higher frequency and vibration, when they start saying this, I give myself permission and they feel tension in their in their knee for like five minutes. Like you can transmute this fast and so fast that the pain will go away fast as well, as you begin to have more mastery over it.

SPEAKER_01 39:01

That's um that's really cool. I did an interview with somebody that has rheumatoid arthritis, and um part of her journey has actually been getting into her body and recognizing when emotions are showing up. So um she has like a you know, her chronic pain, but then she also gets other pains that pop up. And so one of the things she talked about is when it pops up that she'll just pause and kind of go into like a mini, you know, one minute meditation or something, and then just ask her body like what emotion is being held in my wrist right now because I'm having this random wrist pain or this random leg pain, and then she'll usually have something that comes to her, and then at that, she can go ahead and just allow herself to feel it, and then it releases pain, which I think is cool, and um will think that other people could utilize that as a tool, especially people that are suffering chronic pain, because I imagine the more chronic pain that somebody is experiencing, they probably have a lot more trauma that they've held on to and for years since childhood. And then of course we just keep getting more traumas because you can get more traumas in adult life.

SPEAKER_00 40:17

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 40:18

And um and just learning how to move through that. But something you said too is how people don't recognize what they're feeling. And I witness this a lot. I'll get people that come on my table, oh, I'm fine, I'm fine. And I get to working on them like, wow, you're really, really tight. You're you're like you're like working on a brick wall. You're not and then I'll have other people that I think are maybe a little bit more aware of their body, and they're like, oh man, you're gonna have your work cut out for you today. I'm in so much pain. And then I get there and it releases pretty quickly, and they don't have near as much tightness or tension as I feel in some other bodies. So it's um from a palpable point, it's really interesting to observe that, and then also the stories that people hand you along with whatever they think they're feeling. So, do you have to teach people how to do a body scan sometimes to kind of figure out what it is that they're initially feeling?

SPEAKER_00 41:21

Yeah, absolutely. The before language even existed, um, the way we communicate was through our body. And so we're really just it's not like even ENT or um all these modalities that are becoming more recognized more in society now, we're just remembering that that used to exist. And with body language, we're able to uh like even for doing this for about five years now, each area of tension in the body. Yes, I have this book um called Metaphysical Anatomy, and it shows you like what emotions are stored there. But even through that, I never believed it at first. Like, how can someone just know? But through all the five years of working with clients, each one that shared with me, I started seeing the pattern, and those patterns were almost like the same, not the same story, but the same emotion behind each area of tension in the body or pain in the body. So just go into those areas of tension outside or um areas of tension like the throat, the chest, and the back are always a good place to start to scan your body from head to toe. Um, because I'm even working with a new client right now that is not even in tune with their body and doesn't even know how to feel. So they're just very logical. And I would ask them, is there any feelings that are showing up in your heart and your body right now? No, I don't feel anything. So then a tool to find there is um, can you scan your body from head to toe and just let me know if you find any intention or tightness? And then um he would say in his chest, and he would say in his back. So then um he might not even know that those emotions exist there. So sometimes even if I say allowing him to feel that, there might be some like defense coming up, like there's no anger in there. What are you saying? So then I would say, and when you repeat after me, I give myself permission to feel any sorrow, silence, or uh any fear and anxiety in my chest, and it's okay. And I give myself permission to feel any anger, and it's okay. And the beautiful thing about that is the body never lies. So uh, with not even with body language translations, is also Chase Hughes that I studied. He was uh um interrogator, he was he's very good body um language behavior specialist. So he studied behavior. So as I'm saying him, and he he consciously may not even know the feelings that exist in the body, I give myself permission to feel anger. There's gonna be movements in his face, he's gonna move forward a little bit that's congruent with what he's saying. That yes, there's anger in his body without him even knowing. And there's moments where he might even bring his lips back. This, which is withholding your thoughts and emotions, withholding your expression. And you'll see that a lot when others are like trying to express something, but um, they may feel hesitant to express it. So as I'm giving myself permission to feel that, to having him say it out loud, he bites his lip down. I'm biting my expression. There's no anger there, but his body's moving forward at the same time to letting me know, okay, there is some anger there. So then I can rephrase some of those. I give myself permission to hold space or to observe if there is any anger in my body. And I'm just trying to match his consciousness to the way his body's trying to express. And eventually you're gonna meet together, or then he would tap into his feelings in a way that he hasn't felt in so long, especially with a lot of men. And um, and it taps them in into that and allows him to um start feeling when he hasn't felt in so long and reconnects back um to his emotional body. And let me know if that answers your question. I okay, I forgot what your question was there.

SPEAKER_01 45:03

Okay, I was talking about doing a body scan, you totally scan into that. So uh you answered my question very thoroughly. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 45:11

Beautiful. You're welcome.

SPEAKER_01 45:13

So you offer courses and you offer one-on-one work, yes, correct?

SPEAKER_00 45:20

Right now, I um I offer the courses and then I have been training other student practitioners in my practice. So right now I'm I'm completely booked up. So I was able to train about two practitioners that are like fully ready um to take on one-on-one. And so that helps me as they help more people as well. So, with that, I also um have a fourth wave of practitioners uh class that's coming up next year, but they can go apply uh one-on-one with those practitioners, or they can access the course where they can start learning how to do that themselves to be able to have clear physical tension uh disharmony in the body.

SPEAKER_01 46:07

That's awesome. I might be interested in that actually, and because it just sounds like combining that with body work could have some really phenomenally transformational changes that people could have. And I'm always looking to improve my skills or add more to my little toolbox because someday my body's gonna give out. Not today, but today not today. Um, I hope to do this work for many more years and improve upon it. So I'm very interested. You do have a free offer for people to tell us about that.

SPEAKER_00 46:46

Yeah, so that free offer is the tier one of the course that I have. It's uh healing and emotional mastery, self-mastery. So they they get into that course and it teaches really teaches the science behind energy healing, which energy healing is energy and motions, emotions, but we're looking at emotions in a new way or remembering what emotions actually are. It's energy emotion. So in that first course, they're gonna learn um what emotions are um and the science behind energy healing, which was briefly talking about there's always a physical and a chemical response to every emotion that we feel. So they're gonna learn what those responses are and how our body tenses up and our posture changes based off what emotions that we're not feeling. And then they'll also learn um the tools to be able to regulate those feelings in the body so that way they can start healing their body today.

SPEAKER_01 47:44

I love that. And where can people find that course?

SPEAKER_00 47:47

So, in that course, I sent you the link there. It's um School of Emotions on the platform called School.

SPEAKER_01 47:55

Okay, yeah, I'll put a link in the in the show notes for sure. But sometimes people just need to hear it. Um is there anywhere else that they could follow you on the internet?

SPEAKER_00 48:08

Yeah, right now uh most of the content that I post is on TikTok, and it's also called School of Emotions. And um eventually this will be a whole university that I plan to create. But School of Emotions on TikTok, and then um you'll start seeing me more on the side YouTube as well. School of Emotions, everything School of Emotions.

SPEAKER_01 48:29

I love it. Very consistent in your branding, which makes me find you on it.

SPEAKER_00 48:33

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 48:34

Oh, this has been such a wonderful conversation, and I've learned so much from you today. Um, do you have any other just like piece of wisdom that you would like to leave the listeners with? Anything from your life?

SPEAKER_00 48:47

A big piece of wisdom is after sharing my story again, after it's been so long, it really hit my heart again. Um, and I'm really missing my mom right now. So, this this wisdom that I want to really share with you is that knowing this work now, of course, my brain is gonna be like, I wish I knew this then so I could have helped my mom. And I realized after doing this work for so long, there's always moments where I would remember my mom making amends with her family where the anger was stored. And a lot of times when we experience cancer, it's if we break down the word cancer, it's I can't do this. Like, can I cancer, I can't do this, I can't do that. It's a lot of apathy there, and I saw that in my mom in her life, and that she held a lot of anger towards her family. So near the end of her passing, she called up most of her family members to make amends with. And as she was doing that, I can see that um as I was 16, 17 years old, that it was bringing her relief. And because it was bringing her relief, doing this work now, it really shows me that healing doesn't take time, it takes courage, and courage collapses time. And it can be very scary to feel what you've been avoiding to feel for so long. But you get to choose to feel it now, and hopefully uh it doesn't happen the way it happened with Muam, or you can choose to feel it when you're close to your today's uh the end of your days. But if you choose to feel it now, it's gonna completely impact your entire life in a positive way. So I really wanted to just share that. It takes massive courage, courage to feel these feelings, and if you start feeling it now without being scared, um, really step into your bravery there. Your life will completely change, it'll flip around, and it you'll you'll be able to really honor yourself and change your life. Uh really listen to these words because not a lot of people believe that emotions can affect your body, but it can and it affects your life. So if you feel it now, I guarantee you it's inevitable for you not to experience more peace, happiness, and relief in your life.

SPEAKER_01 51:14

That was really beautiful and well stated. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 51:17

Thank you, Lisa.

SPEAKER_01 51:19

Thank you so much for coming on to the podcast and sharing your really heartfelt story, sharing what you do. And I hope that some people take advantage of your services and your free offer and make some positive transformations in their life.

SPEAKER_00 51:37

Thank you so much. This is such a such a beautiful conversation. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 51:42

You're welcome. To my audience, as you embrace your humanness, be kind, be you, and remember everything is part of the journey.