Episode #34:The Village Witch, Death Threats, & Tarot w/Azure West

The Heart of the Conversation

In this episode of That’s Just Human, Elisha is joined by her long-time best friend, intuitive tarot reader, and practicing witch, Azure West. Together, they explore the realities of practicing witchcraft in a small modern town, navigating deep-seated religious misconceptions, and learning how to step out of fear to live an authentic, judgment-free life.

The transmission we explore:

• Persecution in the Modern Day: Azure opens up about facing intense town drama and four distinct death threats after establishing her East Texas tarot studio, Cato Moon.
• Breaking Misconceptions: A candid look at the lingering remnants of the 1980s "satanic panic" , Hollywood stereotypes , and how true witchcraft and spellwork focus on internal alignment and love rather than manipulation.
• Unexpected Alliances: How sharing her experiences openly broke down her own assumptions when devout local women reached out privately to offer support and protection.
• De-escalation and Ethics: Drawing on 30 years of reading experience to safely navigate intense, inebriated, or volatile situations in a public shop space.
• The Power of Knowledge: Why deep study across diverse world religions serves as the ultimate tool to dispel fear and confidently face prejudice.

An Invitation from Elisha

"We so often hide the most authentic pieces of who we are out of fear of what the collective might think, but Azure’s journey shows us what happens when we choose to stop crouching. If you have ever felt judged for your unique path, or if you've struggled to find safety in environments that don't match your frequency, this conversation is a masterclass in resilience. I invite you to listen and explore how shifting away from your inner critic can give you the courage to stand unshakeably in your own light."

Time Stamps:

[00:00:00] Initial Threat/Teaser

[00:00:22] Podcast Introduction

[00:01:00] Azure's Background and Introduction 

[00:03:01] Persecution & Backlash

[00:03:24] Early East Texas Experiences

[00:04:20] Community Engagement

[00:05:31] Opening Tarot Studio & Initial Location

[00:07:05] Studio Vibe & Initial Drama

[00:09:26] Death Threats & Personal Impact

[00:15:11] Specific Death Threat Incident

[00:16:53] Public Interactions & Misconceptions

[00:18:36] Relocating for Privacy/Safety

[00:19:47] De-escalation Skills

[00:22:12] Positive Reactions & Love

[00:23:15] Childhood Exposure & Dispelling Myths

[00:25:11] Navigating Practice & Faith

[00:26:43] Knowledge as Power

[00:30:29] Challenging Internal Trappings

[00:31:07] Accepting Differences

[00:33:18] Spells vs. Prayer

[00:34:34] Handling Negative Energy

[00:35:58] Growth & Impact

[00:37:01] Be Authentic & Set Boundaries

[00:37:24] Humanity & Ethics

[00:38:21] Interacting with Judgment

[00:39:51] Impact on Landlords

[00:42:06] Azure's final wisdom

[00:43:19] Connecting with Azure

[00:45:22] Final Message

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

And I had that death threat um a few days before the weekend. And I did not feel safe being open. Didn't I was not doing anything besides trying to go ahead and just live.

SPEAKER_00 0:22

Hello and welcome to That's Just Human, a podcast that explores all aspects of being human, living in a human body, and dealing with life's obstacles. I'm your host, Elisha Light Angel, and by day I'm a massage therapist. But like you, I live in a human body and I have a plethora of human experiences. And this is the place where we talk about those and other people's experiences. Today I'm really excited that one of my best friends, and I know y'all are gonna be like, Elisha, how many best friends do you have? I have a lot. I'm very blessed in life, and she's been one of my besties for a long time. I don't even I don't even know what year we met, but I do remember it was at a magical gathering, and she is a very magical being herself. She has been practicing witchcraft and all things witchy since she was a child. So she's had quite a long journey to learn a lot about it, and she's really into uh astrology and birth charts. She can tell people what their astrology and birth charts are. They book a consult with her. She does tarot readings for spiritual guidance and other consultations. Really amazing, intuitive being with a lot of wisdom and knowledge. And at this point, she is situated in East Texas and she has her own little shop, Cato Moon, where she offers readings and other spiritual guidance as people are needing and helping out the community that finds her there. So please join me in welcoming one of my best friends, Azure. Welcome, Lou.

SPEAKER_01 2:05

No, thank you for having me. Like I'm when you're like, oh, like one of my best friends. And it's it's really one of those things where I tell folks, I am so blessed, and like we are so blessed that we've got so many people in our lives that have, you know, just in enriched like not only our own personal experiences in life, but when we can go ahead and have people meet and be kind of like that nexus, like it's just like this spreading of love and experience and wonderfulness. So I really appreciate you having me on and being here.

SPEAKER_00 2:37

And I'm just I'm super excited. Yay, thank you so much. I'm excited too. So, with your specialty being everything witchy, that's what we're gonna dive into today and um tap on some of your experience and what that's been like and some of the things that you've gone through even most recently, and um some, I guess, persecution because even though we're not in the Salem witch trials and it's much, I would say much trendier to be a witch in today's modern society, right? There is still a backlash against that. So um I know you've been experiencing some of that. Can you talk to it?

SPEAKER_01 3:24

Yeah, so when I moved out here to East Texas about three years ago, um I felt like there was almost like a precursor to me having um come out as as now it is it is lovingly referred to as the village witch or the town witch. And um Jefferson is a very small place, and folks talk about it being like Mayberry, and um it does absolutely have that vibe. There is a time where I was coming out of the studio really early one morning and I was driving home in my little point four miles away from the studio, right? And um there was like my neighbor and somebody else who was talking to our police chief on the corner, and I'm like, I'm waving like good morning, you know, go down the street a little bit, and then like one of the members that I know that's on the school board and her husband are like walking their morning walk, and I'm like, good morning, you know. So I have never been in a town that has been so so interconnected. There is as always, you know, a blessing and a curse with that. When I like said moved here, I felt that there was this kind of order of operations that I had to do um to make sure that people were like not had this inherit, you know, pitchforks and torches on the lawn kind of situation. When I first moved to Jefferson, I got involved with a couple of different groups here in town. Um, I started the with Mardi Gras and working on on our our float with that. Um and it's been this year is year number four, so that's been really exciting. Um, we went first place and and it's just it's just been monumental. So some of these different things and working with animal rescue has kind of given folks this hey, I am human, I'm not whatever kind of stereotype that folks want to go ahead and and portray, right? Like they knew that I was just a little bit quirky with the fire performing and the this and the that and then going different places. But um when I opened my tarot studio um in July, it was July 4th of 2024, it was in a space like boom, like right downtown Jefferson. And one of my friends who owns an Airbnb were having coffee, and I had been, you know, laid off from the mortgage industry since uh February of 23. So I didn't have a lot going on. I was working, you know, uh here and there with the paper here in town, which is the fourth oldest paper in town. And my boss is, you know, he taught me a lot and and worked with me, and we were able to do, you know, I actually started doing some of the different um the horoscopes for the paper, and then working with the museum here in town and writing grants. So I was trying to go ahead and keep keep busy with that, and then I had my shop, but going back to a nine to five where like my industry is picking back up, it's more like sometimes it's like nine o'clock in the morning or eight o'clock in the morning to like 11 or 12 o'clock at night. Like I have been at work until like 1:30. So going ahead and having my lease come up and kind of downsizing was just, you know, kind of made sense, and that's how I ended up in the space that I am. But kind of, you know, coming back to when I first opened up, I wanted it to be palatable for the the town. So I named the studio Shangri-La and I made it very um kind of like this this hippie vibe that, like I said, was going to be more like family consumer friendly in what I guess I thought it would be. Um in October, I faced um some different kinds of of town drama that had um really had me second guessing, like if I was going to be able to come come back from this, if people were going to be accepting of this. And I just pushed through it. I literally just put my blinders on and was like, these these folks are gonna go ahead and they're going to say whatever they're they're going to, but I just kept showing up for myself, showing up for myself. And honestly, that's something that you taught me. So high five, thank you for that. Um, and how we would talk about inner critics with, you know, like you had with other other people and and and turning it into your inner cheerleader. Again, high five, two thumbs up would recommend those are different things that I would go ahead and I would hear. Um, also putting together some of the other life experiences that I had with folks that you just get to a certain age where you're like, at that time, I think I was 42 or 43, and I was like, are you going to continually be that 14-year-old girl in junior high that was getting, you know, just feeling this fear and feeling this anger that you were being talked about because of your belief system? Um, or are you going to go ahead and say, like, this is who I am? And the stereotypes and whatever people want to go ahead and put together, that's on them. What is it that, you know, one of the four agreements, what people think about me is none of my business, you know, that kind of take on things. And I just I just worked through it. Um there is, I have had four death threats, which I don't want to like, you know, kind of slough it off like it's nothing, but writing for the online publication with the wild hunt, there has been different death threats that has have come in. And unfortunately, it was stemmed from writing about an article that was um pole county peg and market. So I don't want to say that, oh, you know, it's all it's old hat, it's nothing like I've been through this before, that you know, but it's one of those things where if this person is so intimidated by me, you know, that's again, that's on them. That's on them. So being here in East Texas, like I just I came out here when I was 40 for um a birthday. And then, you know, like I said, like things develop and we we were it was one of our favorite hotspots, and you know, you were there for wedding day, and um, and it was just this this wonderful place that we just felt really great about. Um but then like I said, when you get to start to actually be part of the town and its tapestry of all kinds of different, you know, religions and political ideas and stuff that is not necessarily aligned with yours, I talk about loving people and loving one another and everything. And I have to thank Jefferson for pushing that, that uh it's like this this whole thing, like this practicing what you preach, right? Because just because I have different um political views or religious views and different things, I have literally just had to kind of put all of what I what I what I will go ahead and I will be about. It's like I I had to be about it. You know, I had to give them that chance instead of just pigeonholing them into a oh they're not gonna accept me, or oh, they're gonna do this, or oh, they're like this. And again, it was kind of like that the those inner critics in your head saying that you're not gonna be accepted, that blah blah blah. When I would sit here and I would talk on social media about some of the different things or um about the death threats or about things that I would, you know, go ahead and come up against. Some of the most pious women were in my inbox. You know, you need to go ahead and you need to talk to these officials and these officials and these officials. And they were, they just wanted to go ahead and protect me, which meant just the world to me, in all honesty, that like they cared enough, no matter how different I was, you know, and no matter me and and my belief system and everything, that it didn't, it didn't line up with theirs. It just it didn't matter. So it broke down some of my misconceptions that I still had stuck, you know, in um and some of my fears. So I really thank Jefferson for for pushing me outside, you know, my boundaries and what I, you know, it's like, oh, you think you know, you think you know, let me go ahead. And the universe is like, let me push on this a little bit, let me push on this a little bit. And soon it's like you find out what kind of experiences you are having that you might not have had in a bigger city because you're with a small, just a smaller group of people, you know, and it's been such a wonderful journey just being part of a town that does um have these different things for Christmas, you know, these historical homes that people will go ahead and come into from you know, as far away as Oklahoma and Louisiana and Dallas and Houston, and they make this this weekend out of it. We've got other events that the town, you know, does. Um, the the place that I'm at right now here at the Captain's Castle, which is one of the oldest and one of the oldest families here in Jefferson. Um, like I get to be a part of that, and history was always my favorite subject in the school. So it has just been this amalgamation of growth and it's been a beautiful time. It's been a really beautiful time.

SPEAKER_00 14:33

That sounds like quite a journey, just you know, uh moving from big city to small town, experiencing death threats. So since all of this has happened and you've had to stand your ground and and be who you are, and you just be like, come at me, but not but don't be like my Scorpio gets all big. So what's it been like navigating that?

SPEAKER_01 15:04

Like when you got your first death threat, did you have any kind of internal panic, any fear, or the and what was really frustrating is that we were having um one of our now annual events for the the animals. Marion County does not have animal control, so we have Friends of Jefferson that was started, and um Dina and and a few other really, really crucial volunteers are our boots on the ground. Like I'm helping, I I do my best to like help out with Mardi Gras and and try to get some other things done, but there are some folks behind the scenes that just really, really push. So we were having um our I think it was the second woof stock that we have here in town, and I had that death threat um a few days before the weekend, and I did not feel safe being open. And so I let I let that go ahead and I sometimes I feel like man, I went ahead and I let them win. But if something would have been actual, like they were actually gonna act on something, you know, that was a thing. Um, I am not a big person on having guns in in the house and and and all that, like that's comes from a long line of of other stuff, but you know, Nathan wanted to go ahead and protect me, and we had, you know, our firearms out and different things like that. And it was one of those things where it felt so surreal. Like I didn't, I was not doing anything besides trying to go ahead and just live and just be. And it is the reciprocity that I find so agitating with some of the different folks around here because it just going and getting, you know, a soda through a drive-thru. I literally had one lady say, Do you know Jesus? Do you like him? Do you love him? I'm like, I'm literally trying to get a soda through a drive-thru. Like, and so I sit there and I wonder, it was just like, you know, have you heard of the goddess Hecate? You know, do you know her? Have you have you, you know, like if I went ahead and I did that, it would be like the pearls would be clutched, you know? So that is one of the things that I really try to go ahead and and preach about to when I have folks, you know, that come in here. And a lot of folks are more open-minded than I think, even if they're very devout, you know, in in in their um in their Christian religion, it's like the the understanding, and that's really what it's what it's about. I think that if we had more understanding and more um just mind your own biscuits and life will be grainy kind of situation, that would probably help. Um, but just just being so shaken in that moment, um, I did kind of shut down. Um, if I look back at it, would I have done it differently? Probably, but you know, I now look at as literally um the FAFO. You know, and that was one of the other things why I went ahead and moved into this space. Not only is it more private and more cozy, you know, than being in this fishbowl downtown where everybody can see you. Um, and it was in a building where there, you know, there were some times where I was the only one in there. And this is a huge building that was built in the 1860s. So we did have cameras. Um, uh I got another another type of death threat, and you know, I had a camera that was faced towards the door, um, and it wasn't to go ahead and spy on anybody that was in the building and the comings and goings. But if there was going to be somebody that was going to come through that door, like I was that was it was going to be documented, you know. I had um some really interesting folks that have come in. Um, sometimes there's one lady I wanted to like look at her, like like try to like in her head in my mind go blink twice if you need help because her dude was like right there, and I was like, this is this is a bad situation, you know. Um there was one guy that had come in and said that he was being stalked and that he was going to go get a firearm because he thought he was gonna have to kill this guy. Like, if I did not have 30 years of experience in reading and handling the you know different de-escalation training and whatnot, I don't know if some of the instances that have popped up, you know, if I would have been able to handle them. So again, having those human experiences before opening up my shop just laid a really nice foundation. And I still learned, you know, on how to navigate a lot of uh people who would come in, and some people would come in uh very inebriated because, like I said, it was right next to a bar. Again, blessing and a curse, because you had the people come in. But there was always this ethics that you have when you're reading for somebody, or even even when you're you know practicing magic. Um I would go ahead and in a roundabout way about three times, ask them, you know, if they're feeling okay, are they going to be able to, you know, how much have you had a drink? You know, different things like that in a nice, you know, professional way. But if it looked like they were gonna be okay, it was fine. And sometimes the person the person would come in with somebody who was super just blotto, but they were so eager to go ahead and get a message that I just kind of pushed them off to the side and would just focus on the person who was getting the reading. Um, but now being here in this space, um, I have, you know, a person who was former law enforcement. And like I don't I don't feel like I have to worry as much, if that makes sense. So that is kind of how I've you know elevated from yes, I had used to have this really awesome shop in the middle of downtown, and now people are going to have to come to me and come and find me and be a part of this coziness and be more, you know, in in an environment that I feel is is more safe, not just for me. But for them as well, if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 22:03

Absolutely. Well, I'm glad you found a better place that's working and not a fishbowl for everybody to unlock. What's been kind of one of the things that stood out and while you've been talking is some of the ways that people have reacted more positively than you would expect. And um so that's definitely different. Something we want to see more of in this world is like that coming together, that standing in love. I think most religions, like when you get down to the truth of what they teach, is about love. Like even within witchcraft and magical thinking, it comes down to love, which is a misconception that people have based on what they've been told, and they don't do any further investigation. I would um love for you to talk about some of the misconceptions that have come to your attention, um, whether it's in this or just in your lifetime that people have around witchcraft and around magic, and some of the ways that you can dispel the myth that they might have built up in their mind.

SPEAKER_01 23:15

Yeah, absolutely. And so when when I started out, it was um 1990, it was 1993, it was just a couple months before I turned 13. Um, and we had moved to Seattle, and there was um a girl that was at the bus stop, she kind of took me under her wing and everything. And you know, a couple weeks passed, and we become really good friends. And me growing up Missouri Senate Lutheran and hearing my mom talk about this pastor that was, you know, like she did confirmation with and the satanic panic that was in the 80s, and just so much, you know, anti anti-witchcraft, right? I went to my friend's house that had gone ahead and showed me nothing but kindness and support and everything else, um, moving from a smaller town, Washington, to to Redmond. And there was a pinnacle that was on her wall, boom, as soon as you walked in, and I'm like, so my misconceptions growing up, boom, like instantly kicked in, right? And I was like, Are you guys devil worshippers? And she just laughed. Because thank you, Hollywood. There's so much that goes ahead and comes along with um, you know, high drama will go ahead and sell. And and there's some of these, like I said, different misconceptions that again have come along with Hollywood. Um, so I wanted to go ahead and start studying. Well, her parents, you know, said, okay, well, does your mom know? No. Okay, well, we will go ahead and give you book suggestions because obviously the internet was not really around right there. So to write of silver broomstick was my first witchcraft book that I read, and that was by Silver Raven Wolf. And I learned even having to navigate being at home and actually going through Lutheran confirmation while I'm still practicing, it was really difficult. And then you had the people, you know, and the kids at school, and we all know that kids can be super, super terrible. Um, that and then when the craft came out, oh okay, you know, that was that was all all that um hubbub that went around. And I was like, if I actually had some of those abilities, maybe you guys would shut the crap up. But no, it was um, so I learned from a very you know like young age that it was just that was just how it was gonna be. Um, you know, having like growing growing up in this Lutheran household and then having some of the different like the psychic abilities um that were also kind of like you know, like shunned, like you we don't you go to heaven or you go to hell, like there's no there's no in between. You don't get to to talk to spirits, ghosts aren't real, yada yada yada. I was already kind of in this um position to try to be in in a a religious practice that or spiritual practice that was more accepting of different things that I had. People were like, oh, it's such a gift. I'm so sarcastic. I'm like, it's an affliction. Sometimes and folks will say, man, you know, you really went to a hot spot full of like really haunted things. And again, when you're coming up through um through reading and learning about witchcraft and different books that will go ahead and help you, uh it kind of helps dispel some of those myths that you have because you are reading, because it's like so I had, like I said, all of these different um I like my different viewpoints on things because I grew up in a very you know religious household. And so I had these thoughts, but when I went ahead and started reading and that knowledge and that power that you would have through um just having a way to go ahead and explain things better because you have read, you have studied, you have done this, you have done that, and um I had this amount of hey, this is what I've read about. This is what what is like documented stuff that goes on, right? So it was easier for me to go ahead and dispel those myths um as as time went on, right? Um, it was easier for me to accept some of my gifts um and and dispel the myths that I had in myself because I had read and because I had that knowledge. Um some of the the books that I had set there and I had read and I had was going to go to, you know, have having been in um over with the University of Washington and wanting to expand upon that and be a professor of religion, you know, at 17, 18, 19 years old, I had read some of these books that I don't even know if some ministers had gone ahead and and read and looked at of of different kinds of religious practices, not just with witchcraft, but you know, with Buddhism and and Muslim and you know, Judaism, just all of this knowledge just consumed, right? Trying to not just dispel the myth, you know, of witchcraft, but other myths that people had about different religions. So the the bottom line was having that cliche saying that knowledge is power and being able to not necessarily, you know, play this ping-pong match of haha, I got you, haha, you know, when you're talking with somebody that has a very fervent belief, because you don't want to sit there and you don't want to down their belief system, but when they sit there and they start, you know, talking down to you and say, um, that's where you're wrong. Yeah. Like the Scorpio just, I'm like, whoo, who's uh, who saw. And sometimes, you know, I pop off and I say, Well, you know, the devil is a Christian god. They don't like that very much. But when you're sitting here and again, you know, dispelling myths, looking at different aspects of how the Christians have this archetype of the devil, doesn't match up with what everybody. But the Bible says, the Bible says, and like, I'm like, I'm so glad that you have a book that you know you go ahead and you believe in and you place a lot of you know your your religious practice, and that's awesome, but it's not everybody, and it's not the only one out there. So there's some times where I feel that then if they if they look into it and they gain more knowledge to dispel, you know, some of their uh their own trappings that are in their mind because this is what they have grown up with and this is how they have been taught, it it pushes that and those uncomfortable conversations sometimes people aren't ready for. Maybe they'll be ready for it in this time, maybe it'll be the next lifetime, but I hope that folks can be more open-minded. Doesn't mean that you have to change your beliefs, but just being accepting and knowing that just because somebody practices witchcraft, no, I don't sit there and I'm not part of the animal rescue group so that I can sacrifice animals. I had somebody ask me that one time, and I just looked at them and I said, come back when you have a better question.

SPEAKER_00 31:34

Well, that's definitely a myth that they created, and I mean their own minds. It's an ignorance that people just don't know. And then, like you said, Hollywood has painted so many negative pictures of anything that's uh magical, witchcrafty, occulty, like it's all thrown into this one category and it's all dark. There's no there's no spectrum of what it actually means. And um like I was raised in a very cult like flavor of Christianity. And um, I was told like everything is gonna bring demons, and like you can even meditate. If you meditated, you were inviting demons in. Um doing anything witchcrafty, definitely you're working with the demons and the devil's gonna get you. Like there it and it was complete ignorance until I started to actually learn what it is that people do, what it is that they actually believe, and then witnessing the behavior of people who genuinely have really good hearts, really good ethics, and show up and help other people, they're kind, they're caring, you know, and just like everybody else, they're human and have human issues, but utilizing witchcraft, especially whenever you're doing um a spell, which does not mean that you're trying to make somebody do something. Um that's another misconception. If you're doing spells, you're like trying to bend everybody to your will and manipulate, but it's an internal process of being able to go through whatever you're dealing with at that time, and so working through or trying to bring something into fruition in your life, it is a witch's spell is equivalent to a Christian's prayer, and they are both forms of praying in different ways.

SPEAKER_01 33:42

Correct. Correct. People will ask, Well, do you hack somebody? I was like, Did you tell somebody as you were going down the road in your fit of road rage, you know, to go, you know, do something, you know, negative? I was like, Yeah, just put that crap out there. It's it is it is literally folks will go ahead and do things that they, you know, they sit there and and have this big to-do, like there's all of this like stuff that you have to do in order to go ahead and hex somebody. No, you just sit there and think some negative crap, and I can tell you that it's you know, I have my own bad overrage sometimes where I'm like, where's your blinker? But they they they do that, and if you're you're going to um do some kind of magical operation to where you feel like somebody has really um done you wrong, I think that over the years it has been from an old crone, she sat there and she used to say, I wish them well, I wish them far away from me. And that has been probably the most powerful thing that I could ever go ahead and just speak into existence. Because while you might not go ahead and get along with that person, somebody else might, right? If they're a really crappy person, it's not going to take a crystal ball or tarot cards or lighting a candle or this or that to know that life is just going to go ahead and hand them what they put out. You know, if you're a crappy person and and you keep doing crappy things, it's just a matter of time before it goes ahead and it comes back. I have no patience. Sometimes I'm like, I want to have, I want to see results now. But it's it happens when it happens, and sometimes it's just like this accrual of things that they have done. Um, and and it just all kind of happens at once. And either they'll grow from that experience and say, hey, maybe I need to go ahead and change some of you know the way that I treat people or treat things or treat situations, you know, or they won't. And if they don't want to, you know, keep learning that lesson, they'll just be, you know, doomed to repeat it. And that is going to be more impactful than anything that I could go ahead and and conjure up. I would rather go ahead and say, man, this person is a complete jerk face, and I don't want to be around them. I want to put in this positive effort towards what I'm working on, right? And just shift all of that. Because it's easy, like when I was younger, to go ahead and just have like this unbridled, I'm so upset. But the older that you've got and the more experience, it's just like go go ahead and and and do you and and be the person that you you authentically are. Just do it away from me. And I'm gonna go ahead and be over here and manifesting all of the things that I want to do, and what is fun for me, and what is bringing this positive and then this positivity, and and just it's all about kind of like that shift of focus, if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 37:24

Yeah, I I like that, and it does come back to ourselves and learning how to live authentically, and uh while like for people like us, we have high ethics, you know, big hearts, and we want to help the world around us in that way. We're not speaking for everyone, but I would say that most of the people that I come across are much more kind and loving, especially than anyone in a church would want you to believe that they are. And you can't judge somebody by how they look either, and know like this is the kind of character they have just by the persona that they're presenting with clothing or hair or just the body that they were given, because you know, sometimes we're just going with what we got.

SPEAKER_01 38:18

Right, right. Yeah, I think that having like speaking to that point, like I have faced um a number of different kind of uh they didn't want to outright say, like, what is that? We listen, we don't judge. They were looking and they were judging. They weren't gonna listen, they were just gonna look and they were gonna judge. And then, you know, me, it's like I don't really meet a stranger. So, you know, I start going ahead and talking to them and and just just opening up. So even when I'm, you know, downtown running around the first time, and folks didn't really, you know, know, you know, know who I was, or they maybe were like, wow, it's like probably a tourist because tourism is our our biggest export here, right? Um now it's like I go walking down the street and everybody knows the the green hair, you know, or the this or the that, and they're like, and then I hear, hi Azure. So, and you know, and that that was one of the things like coming into Jefferson too, is um one of the places, can I prove it? No, but one of the places I believe that it didn't matter that I was making, you know, close to three or close to six figures. Um this, my, you know, it's like my tattoos, just different things like that, that was not that was not up to their version of what you know a good person was. My landlords now that we're, you know, we're we're going and and getting a bigger place. Um, they have always, even with our, you know, completely different uh backgrounds, like they have always been one of my biggest supporters. And when I popped out of of the car when we first went to come, you know, come and look at the at this place, you know, I was trying to go ahead and present like best hair curl, blah, blah. And uh my landlord, he goes, I like your hair. And I'm like, oh you, you know, and he was sincere about it, right? So it it really has, I think also, and this could mean me just having having this perception, but I I really hope that me being me and and trying to help out and being out and not trying to hide away or this or that, um, has maybe opened up folks a little bit more to understanding that it's like it, you don't have to go ahead and wear, you know, these these fine clothes and these dresses and you know, suits and be, you know, this and that to be a good person. You can have, you know, blue, purple, whatever kind of hair. You know, you can, it doesn't mean that um I'm not, you know, smart or a degenerate or whatever kind of picture that people want to go ahead and and paint, if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 41:29

Yeah. Well, that's a I feel like that's a good note to wrap up on, because we're gonna be close to our time and uh not judging people. So one last question. If you could leave the audience with any bit of wisdom, either something from this conversation or something else in your life, what would that be?

SPEAKER_01 42:06

It is that age old cliche saying that you never know what someone's going through. And try to be open and understanding. Try to offer those those moments um of love and and understanding that not everyone will go ahead and and get out there, especially with what we have going on right now. And um looking for the good in people because there is, or there, you know, definitely can be if you're trying to to be good to folks. I really hope that that love and the and compassion that you show will be a spark in somebody else that maybe didn't have that around and really needed it.

SPEAKER_00 43:03

Yeah, that's beautiful. Yeah. We all need to remember that, especially when we get in our own moods. Yeah. Well if my audience would like um hook up with you, where can they find you on the internet?

SPEAKER_01 43:20

So right now I am just over at Cattle Moon on Facebook. I have a website. As always, it's like that is one of those things that needs to be like updated. I needed Instagram, I needed this, I need that, all of those things, but like working as much as I do, like that is really the um the the only thing that I can say, hey, I'm I have my eye on that more than I do almost any other social media platform, is just you know, having Catalmoon on Facebook. Um, I think if you go ahead and you Google um Me Too. It'll go ahead and it'll it'll pop up, um, especially, you know, uh here in Jefferson, Texas. I I always like if you can't make it to Jefferson, you know, I'm here with all of the the Zooms, the FaceTimes, the this, the that. And, you know, we'll we'll set you up on the chairs like you're with me right now. We'll we'll have a talk. And I always try to make it seem like you're literally just sitting down with somebody and having a cup of coffee, a couple, you know, a cup of a tea. And um it's like Vegas in my my little office. What happens here stays here. So definitely don't want your your business out there either.

SPEAKER_00 44:41

That makes sense. Fantastic. Go find her if you want a reading. She's a really good reader. I can attest to that. And if you are still with us and you want to help me promote my show, you can share this with somebody that you think might be inspired by it. Leave me reviews on Apple iTunes or Five Stars on Spotify. Like, comment, subscribe on YouTube. And if you're still watching and or if you're listening and you want to see Azure's aesthetic, it is absolutely beautiful and at least worth clicking on the YouTube video to see the way that she has everything set up. Anyway, as you embrace your humanness, be kind, be you, and remember, everything is part of the journey.