臺語𨑨迌物
兩个愛喋「常」的高中囡仔庀，討論社會萬項代
by 阿軒佮肉圓仔
臺語𨑨迌物
EP17 喙講鹿港腔，將故鄉的聲音放送全世界 ft. 阿愷之聲台長
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大家對鹿港的印象是怎麼樣的？是一座略顯繁華的小鎮，還是蘊藏著歷史蹤跡與情懷的古老聚落？其實，在許多人鹿港在地人眼裡，他們對家鄉的共同記憶，是兒時對這純樸、灰暗且保持著原始型態的街巷，所深埋於心底的恐懼。如果要論這恐懼的根源，也許是來自於鹿港那尚未「現代化」的景致，但那又何嘗不是種特色呢？這些灰暗的街角，住著許許多多的人，也承載著數百年歷史的風華與滄桑，而這些故事與傳說都透過「鹿港腔」來述說。我想，這充分解釋了「鹿港腔」的復振作業為何重要，本集採訪的阿愷透過阿愷之聲Podcast實踐了他最在乎的這件事，把鹿港腔放送到全世界！
本集節目邀請去年入圍第60屆廣播金鐘獎Podcast類藝術文化獎，阿愷之聲 A.K.A台語通勤第一品牌臺長---王麒愷 阿愷！！本集內容精彩，從阿愷的童年、家庭聊到了開始轉身投入社會運動的契機，再一路講到「阿愷之聲」經營之路，不收聽說得過去嗎？
本集重點：
- 鹿港腔逐漸稀微，被優勢腔統治的現象阿愷怎麼看待？
- 在從事木工產業的家庭裡成長，透過la-jí-ooh領悟到聲音於古早台灣人的重要性
- 什麼樣的契機讓阿愷轉身投入社會運動、就讀台大城鄉所，甚至組成「城鄉放送局樂隊」
- 為什麼開始製作阿愷之聲？
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SPEAKER_04And then be a cone, live park has a kill uh city tanks eventually.
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